Latest / Best of Business / Shane Marsh: Dosh co-founder on the company's bid to become New Zealand's first digital-only bank
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- 0:16Speaker 2: New Zealand company Dosh is trying to become the first
- 0:19Speaker 2: New Zealand digital only bank. Dosh has started the application
- 0:22Speaker 2: process to become a registered bank in New Zealand in
- 0:25Speaker 2: the hope that it will increase banking competition. Shane marsh
- 0:27Speaker 2: is Dosh's co founder and chief executive and with us now,
- 0:30Speaker 2: Hey Shane, hi, So if you're digital only? What was that?
- 0:35Speaker 3: Thanks for having me a lot.
- 0:36Speaker 2: You're more than welcome. If you're digital only, does that
- 0:38Speaker 2: mean you've got no ATMs where I can take money out?
- 0:40Speaker 2: You've got no bank branches? Nothing like that?
- 0:44Speaker 3: Yeah, traditional bank has branches. You'll feed them along all
- 0:47Speaker 3: the high streets of the New Zealand cities and towns.
- 0:51Speaker 3: And these branches cost a lot of money to rent,
- 0:53Speaker 3: to maintain and to staff as well. So with the
- 0:57Speaker 3: prices that are set by a normal banking organization, they
- 1:00Speaker 3: need to cover all of these costs. A digital bank
- 1:03Speaker 3: doesn't have those branches as much lower number of staff
- 1:07Speaker 3: and their or the prices and value to consumers. Who
- 1:11Speaker 3: is much better?
- 1:12Speaker 2: Do I? Have the option of withdrawing cash from my
- 1:14Speaker 2: bank account though.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, you can remove it from your bank account
- 1:20Speaker 3: through just normal internet banking or mobile banking as people
- 1:24Speaker 3: do today.
- 1:25Speaker 2: What about what no bank card? I can't go get
- 1:27Speaker 2: twenty bucks for I don't know, Lolli's.
- 1:32Speaker 3: In terms of cash? Yeah, well we find most people
- 1:35Speaker 3: are not operating with cash today and most people are
- 1:37Speaker 3: using a card or a digital card to make their payments.
- 1:41Speaker 2: I noticed that you guys say you'd become the first
- 1:43Speaker 2: New Zealand owned digital only bank. Are there others who
- 1:46Speaker 2: are not New Zealand owned who are already doing this?
- 1:49Speaker 3: Are there Rabo Direct, who's a Netherlands back bank And
- 1:55Speaker 3: previously you may recall Bank Direct which was owned by
- 1:58Speaker 3: Australian based ASP, which was amalgamated into ASB some four
- 2:04Speaker 3: or five years ago. So since those banks were created
- 2:08Speaker 3: that there's been a lot change from a technology perspective.
- 2:10Speaker 3: From what we've seen in the last five to ten
- 2:13Speaker 3: years across the world is the emergence of mobile based
- 2:17Speaker 3: digital banks offering the latest technology, news services and better
- 2:22Speaker 3: value for consumers and have been wildly popular. In the UK.
- 2:26Speaker 3: For example, two and every three people have a digital
- 2:29Speaker 3: only bank accounts.
- 2:32Speaker 2: What are the hurdles that you have got to overcome
- 2:34Speaker 2: in order to be cleared for this?
- 2:37Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll be working with the Reserve Bank on
- 2:40Speaker 3: our application and they look at a number of factors
- 2:43Speaker 3: such as our compliance and the security and also our
- 2:50Speaker 3: systems and the amount of capital which is a cash
- 2:53Speaker 3: that we have set aside if things don't go well.
- 2:57Speaker 3: We have our fund held in a bank today and
- 3:00Speaker 3: so those funds are secure and we're also compliant in
- 3:03Speaker 3: the same way as the bankers, so we feel confident
- 3:08Speaker 3: we can most of the requirements. That only be a
- 3:10Speaker 3: few that will work with on the with the Reserve Bank.
- 3:13Speaker 2: How many millions do you have to hold.
- 3:16Speaker 3: Well to become a regis spank in New Zealand, you
- 3:18Speaker 3: actually have to hold thirty million dollars of capital, which
- 3:22Speaker 3: is a lot, particularly compared with other countries such as
- 3:26Speaker 3: Australia at fifteen million dollars of capital, or perhaps the
- 3:29Speaker 3: UK where it's only million pounds of capital. But what
- 3:33Speaker 3: we're finding in the market at the moment is that
- 3:35Speaker 3: both the Commerce Commission and the Reserve Bank and the
- 3:38Speaker 3: government are looking for greater competition in the banking market,
- 3:42Speaker 3: and they're looking again at some of these rules in
- 3:45Speaker 3: terms of how can we better enhanced competition players like
- 3:49Speaker 3: Dosh into the market so we can offer new services.
- 3:52Speaker 2: So ultimately, Shane, are you are you hoping to have
- 3:56Speaker 2: that threshold clear it like for them to drop it
- 3:58Speaker 2: down from thirty mil in order for you to be
- 4:00Speaker 2: able to get in or are you going to scrape
- 4:01Speaker 2: together thirty mil?
- 4:03Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, we're confident that we can meet the requirements
- 4:06Speaker 3: that the bank were said and we were forward to
- 4:07Speaker 3: working with them on that. So it's yeah, Look, it's
- 4:10Speaker 3: an interesting it's an interesting topic about the capital, but
- 4:13Speaker 3: ultimately for us, it's more about how can we do
- 4:16Speaker 3: better for consumers and boffer them better value in pricing.
- 4:20Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff, Best of lucky it, Shane, Thanks for
- 4:21Speaker 2: talking us through its Shane Marsh, the co founder and
- 4:23Speaker 2: the chief executive of Dosh.
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