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Romantic Mayhem in the Movies · Pop Culture Junkie®

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  ♪ Entertain me, entertain me right now ♪
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  - Welcome to the Pop Culture Junkie podcast.
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  I'm Olivia.
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  - And I'm Shauna.
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  - I am so excited to chat with you.
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  I feel like it has been a while.
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  I've lived some lives.
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  I've seen some things since then.
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  How are you surviving this 115 degree weather?
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  - You know, it hasn't been too bad lately.
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  It is supposedly monsoon.
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  See, and then here in Phoenix, but...
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  - It's been kind of hidden missed the last couple years.
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  And we did get a little bit of rain a couple weeks ago.
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  So it hasn't been terrible, but I don't know.
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  I've lived here for 36 years.
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  I'm used to it by now.
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  And I have a pool, not to brag.
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  - That was by the way.
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  - I have a pool.
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  I am living in the pool.
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  My friend and I were chatting and she was like,
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  I literally just took my broth after a call.
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  And I swear that it made a splat noise
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  'cause it was so hot and sweating.
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  And it made me be like, wait,
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  should there be special bras for the desert?
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  Like almost like a swimsuit material.
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  And then, yeah, I know.
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  I'm giving one this idea for free.
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  - And like a pocket on each titty.
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  - You could put like a gel ice pack into.
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  - Ooh.
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  - Yeah, like a cooling pad on the tits.
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  That is brilliant. - Yeah, I love that.
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  - Yeah, really. - That's really,
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  you would be quite nipple.
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  - Yeah, that's okay. - Yeah.
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  - That's okay.
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  We could put extra padding over the nipple
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  if we wanted to if you didn't want to be nipple-y
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  or we could have the conchardation version
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  with the built-in nipple.
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  - Yeah.
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  - In case you wanted to be nipple-y.
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  - Yeah, I want everyone to know I'm cold.
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  (laughing)
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  - We'll have them with fake piercings on it.
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  It'll be great, it'll be great.
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  - That, yeah.
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  So, you know, if you still that idea,
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  just credit me in some way.
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  I love how I come up with that idea
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  after I leave the desert.
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  (laughing)
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  Your tits were super sweaty, it's fine.
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  - Yeah, they were just, you know,
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  underboop sweat, really a big thing.
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  I did, I will say, I went back to Phoenix for four days
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  and I got to have lunch with Shana, which was lovely.
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  I will say, you forget how bad it is quickly.
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  Like I was underboop sweating, like a mofo.
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  I burned my hands on the steering wheel.
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  - Oh my god.
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  - I was just saying.
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  - I literally burned my hands anymore.
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  And the underboop sweat, I just lifted the tit
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  and put a little deodorant under each one.
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  - Okay, so we'll put diodes.
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  - We'll put diodes under your boobs.
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  - Rohan, Phoenix has.
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  - Phoenix, yes.
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  (laughing)
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  - Lived in Phoenix for a very long time,
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  but since then, since my quick jaunt to Phoenix,
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  I actually got to see Lady Gaga lives.
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  - So I told Andrew, I was like,
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  I'm gonna be really petty for a minute
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  and I'm like, I'm mad at Olivia.
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  And he's like, why are you mad at Olivia?
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  I'm like, I'm not actually mad.
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  It's just like, I try so hard to not be jealous
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  of other women.
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  And I was so painfully jealous of you
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  that it moved, I became a person I didn't like.
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  (laughing)
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  It made me mad.
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  'Cause I was so fucking jealous.
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  Was she just incredible?
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  - So first of all, it was amazing.
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  That was the first time I had ever seen Gaga live.
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  And it was great.
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  It was Mayhem Ball, so I should have played a lot of Mayhem tracks
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  and then of course, like the hit.
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  I would say, you know, like, okay.
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  So the ultimate pro tip for anyone who likes to be
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  a little bit bougie and also see the pop girl at least.
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  If you live in a place or near a place where a show is,
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  look, like two to three days before the show goes live
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  and you will see tickets that were like three grand drop,
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  like a ton.
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  That's what I did for Taylor.
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  - Right.
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  - We got box seats for Taylor Swift at SoFi Stadium,
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  which normally would have been like five grand.
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  - Yeah, they dropped a ton.
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  And we got them for 800, which is a lot of money.
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  I'm saying this from a place of, you know, extreme privilege.
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  But because of that, I went with one of the owners
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  of my company, the Taylor Swift.
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  Her and I are both like big pop girl fans
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  and we saw that Lady Gaga was playing and we were like,
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  do we do what we did for Taylor
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  and just we just pulled the trigger and see?
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  And I was just gonna...
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  - I was just paying for them.
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  - 400.
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  - Oh, God.
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  We got box seats for that and it was open bar and street food.
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  And it was actually really good food.
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  So like I was like, okay, I'm drinking.
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  I have a private bar, I have a private bathroom.
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  I'm literally so close, like I could see embellishments
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  like on her.
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  Now of course they're in a box.
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  So you are, you aren't on the floor.
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  Floor tickets were like 400 bucks as well,
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  which were crazy.
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  - 400, that's insane.
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  - Yes.
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  - They were 400 when I looked, but I also had to consider
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  if I went to San Francisco 'cause she's not coming to Phoenix.
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  I would've had to pay for the tickets and the flight.
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  I would stay with you for free, so that's nice.
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  But you know we're gonna spend so much money on food
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  and alcohol and I'd need a new outfit
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  and I'm like, I just can't make that happen right now.
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  I am gonna see ghosts in a few weeks,
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  but that's easy.
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  There's just gonna be a Phoenix.
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  And then nine itch nails in September.
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  - That'll be fun.
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  But I'm not mad at you anymore, but I was.
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  For like, it's out there.
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  - For the night.
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  - Yeah.
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  - For the night, you're like this bitch.
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  Yeah, she's not even a little monster.
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  Yeah, it's so fun.
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  - I know, it's like she better have a newfound respect
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  for Gaga out to this.
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  - Oh yeah, totally.
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  I mean, I think it's like one of those things.
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  So I have decided if it's something iconic
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  and like I like the music and maybe I'm not like a diehard
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  like, sweetie.
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  - It's worth it.
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  - I'm still gonna do it.
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  It's gonna be amazing and cool.
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  And so this weekend, Dad and Company is having their
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  60th anniversary show here and the Grateful Dead.
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  - Oh, I was like, Dad and Company, the fuck,
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  oh the Grateful Dead.
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  - Oh the Grateful Dead, yeah.
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  - Yeah, the Grateful Dead.
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  It's their 60th anniversary show.
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  It's in Golden Gate Parts.
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  - It's a Sturgial Simpson.
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  - Right.
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  - Right, they're old.
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  It's their, and Sturgial Simpson is their opener.
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  I'm going.
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  So I've dropped a lot of money on concerts and lots of you days.
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  - But then, so this weekend I'm going to that.
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  And then next weekend, the weekend after that is outside land.
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  So I am just about to see an insane amount of artists
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  and everyone, my resolution for this year
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  is also to see as much live music as possible.
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  - I am so happy for you.
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  - Yeah, you are doing a great job.
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  I, I don't know.
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  I've gone to my fair share this year, but I got to step it up.
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  I was supposed to go to work to or this weekend,
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  but I bought the tickets like way before the lineup
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  even came out and it eventually is like,
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  "Nh, none of these are really doing it."
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  For me, I just ended up selling them.
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  So.
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  - Yeah, I was looking at when we were young,
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  like that's upcoming.
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  Looks pretty good, but we'd have to go to Vegas.
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  So.
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  - Oh damn.
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  (laughs)
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  No, no, my next trip is to see you, bitch.
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  I can't have any more trips.
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  I have to save some money.
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  - Yes, yes, exactly.
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  - Labor day weekend.
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  - Yes.
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  And you know, that's what happens when you are childless.
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  I was about to say marriedless, actually,
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  when you are single, because there are truly some dangers
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  to being married.
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  - It's true.
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  - And we're gonna talk about that when we come back
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  from our next week.
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  (dramatic music)
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  (dramatic music)
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  - Marriage can be scary, right?
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  We always hear about these crazy stories of cheating,
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  infidelity, but what happens when we see married couples
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  who murder.
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  - Don't apologize always.
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  - Don't apologize always.
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  - Apocultures has always been obsessed with the husband
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  who has a secret.
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  But what are some of the most iconic marriage cases?
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  Killers and people who stick with us
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  with throughout the years,
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  throughout the many iterations of Hollywood,
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  who are the most iconic murderous couples?
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  And Shana, I wanna start with who you think
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  is the most iconic murderous, married couple.
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  They don't have to both be murderous, but.
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  - That is interesting.
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  Most iconic, actually, I think the most iconic
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  is probably gonna be one of the movies
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  that I chose to talk about, which is Jack Torrance
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  from The Shining.
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  So we'll get into that a little more in depth.
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  But I think when I think of like your husband's snaps
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  and goes crazy and wants to kill,
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  that's what I think of.
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  Or, oh God, what's that movie?
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  Ryan Reynolds is in the remake,
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  and they're in the house.
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  - Amnibal?
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  - Yeah, there you go.
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  There it is, Amnibal.
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  - Amnibal horror.
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  - Which may or may not be a true story.
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  So that's pretty iconic too.
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  And I guess before talking about a movie
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  where they're both quote killers, Mr. and Mrs. Smith.
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  They're both like hitmen, hit lady.
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  So, you know, it's not like that horror killer
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  and like she's their murderers, but they kill people.
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  - For murder?
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  - There's murder, no doubt.
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  - There's murder.
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  - There's murder.
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  - A murderous mother.
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  - A murderous mother.
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  - Murder?
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  I would say, you know, you have some like,
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  people who wouldn't necessarily like put into that category,
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  like Tony Soprano, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, you know, within that.
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  But I always think back to the characters that,
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  you kind of see either trying to murder each other
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  or there's this finding of a big secret
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  that they murdered someone.
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  And it's like, are they gonna move into it
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  and help them cover it up?
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  Or are they gonna try to get out?
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  Like I think that's such an interesting story.
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  We've seen it so much in pop culture
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  or it just intrude crime as well.
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  And so yeah, I wanna know,
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  what do you think is the most iconic movie or TV show?
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  - So TV show, not on my list either,
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  but Dexter comes to mind here too,
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  which I am obsessed with.
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  I haven't started the newest season
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  where it's surprised he's not dead, but I really want to.
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  It's gotten good reviews so far.
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  But obviously Dexter is a serial killer
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  and he is married.
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  He hides it from his wife Rita.
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  Obviously, RIP Rita, season four.
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  I'm just spoiling this show,
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  but it came out so long ago that what happened.
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  - I think you've done that over the course of many episodes.
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  Talk me about Dexter.
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  - I love Dexter, dude.
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  It is, we have like a Dexter premiere party,
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  I mean, some of my girlfriends back in the day
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  for the final season.
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  I'd like cupcakes with like bloody syringes.
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  - I love that.
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  - In the Barbie doll, all chopped up.
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  It was great.
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  But yeah, Dexter, I think, is probably one of the most
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  iconic TV show, like he's a killer
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  and his wife doesn't know situation.
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  Anything else that you can think of?
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  - And I think of iconic killers that just stick with you.
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  I mean, you have to go like Walter White
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  within that as well.
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  - Yeah.
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  That's true.
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  He definitely is a killer.
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  It's like when you first think about it,
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  you're like, oh no, he's not a kid.
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  Wait.
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  - Wait.
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  - He's mercen people.
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  - He is mercen people.
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  And it's Skylar like sticks with him and, you know,
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  not very happy about it, but she does.
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  - Yeah.
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  (laughing)
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  - Yeah.
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  And both of us brought two movies that we want to really
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  dive into and talk about a little bit deeper.
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  The ones that have stuck with us throughout the year.
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  So we're gonna take a quick break and then we'll dive in.
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  (dramatic music)
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  (dramatic music)
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  - So we're talking about movies and maybe even some streaming
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  shows have thrown in there.
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  Where two spouses absolutely have it in for each other.
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  Maybe one wants the other dead,
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  one's trying to actually hide that they have a big fat secret
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  and are willing to kill each other,
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  to keep it a secret.
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  While we see this a lot in cheesy lifetime movies,
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  maybe like a, you know, as Shana said,
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  a monomose foul is the name of it.
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  There's a specific mainstream film
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  that is all about romantic mayhem.
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  But before we start looking at marriage gone wrong,
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  And we'll be reshur to remind you about that later.
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  - Yaw, yaw, we will.
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  - So as I mentioned, we have the roses coming out shortly,
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  which is actually a remake of 1989's War of the Roses.
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  We have, you know, powerhouses, Benedict Cumberbatch,
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  Olivia Coleman, Andy Sandberg, Kate McKinnon,
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  Allison, Jannie, and more.
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  - That's a stacked cat.
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  - Yeah, amazing, right?
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  Coleman and Cumberbatch play soon to be X's,
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  whose marriage goes very, very bad.
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  And they battle over who gets the house in the divorce.
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  And this comes out on August 29th.
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  And it got us thinking, what are some couples
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  that you have just seen in cinema where you're like,
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  "Uh oh, things are gonna go wrong."
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  And oftentimes a little bit murderous.
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  - A little murderous.
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  So I think a good example of this.
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  And maybe they don't quite kill each other,
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  but everyone thinks they do.
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  It's the movie Gone Girl from 2013.
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  - It's not a good one, yeah.
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  - Oh my God, it sticks with you from the minute you see it.
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  It's just so unnerving and the way she looks at the camera
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  and just like her, she's definitely a murderer.
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  So it's based on the psychological thriller Gone Girl
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  by Gillian Flynn.
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  So the film is directed by David Fincher
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  and it follows the mysterious disappearance of Amy,
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  who is played by Rosamond Pike
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  and the ensuing media frenzy and police investigation
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  while her husband Nick becomes the prime suspect.
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  And it just, Nick is a shithead, right?
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  So come to find out, Amy staged the entire disappearance
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  and made this elaborate scheme to make it look like Nick killed her
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  because she wants to frame him for murder
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  to get back at him from cheating on her.
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  And also just to kind of get like the power
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  of the relationship back into her hands,
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  they definitely have kind of a, I don't know,
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  it kind of seems like in the beginning of the movie
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  that's kind of where their passion is drawn from
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  is kind of just being antagonizing each other
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  and she needs to get that control and revenge back,
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  stages her own death, leaves and frames,
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  Nick, been apholic for murder.
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  - Yeah, I honestly think this movie is so iconic.
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  Like Rosamond Pike is so good in it, honestly.
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  Her cool girl monologue, it, like I will think about that
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  till the day I die ultimately,
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  like the writing within that is,
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  and the way she delivers it is just so good.
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  And like not all women see themselves within her,
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  but like they can see when that monologue happens,
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  like if you've ever dated men,
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  like you will be like, oh yeah, like they want the cool girl,
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  they want this and you do not agree with her.
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  Obviously she has a personality disorder,
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  but you see how she could get there.
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  Like it's really like one of those early good
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  for her movies.
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  It literally, it makes sense.
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  Like you wouldn't go that far,
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  but you can see why she got to that conclusion.
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  And you do find yourself going, good for her.
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  - Yeah. - The scene,
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  - Ah, will!
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  - The scene where she kills Neopatra carous
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  and like slits his throat while they're having sex,
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  stuck with me for so long.
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  It is like sad limp dick just falling over the side.
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  (laughing)
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  And then she ends up coming home,
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  just drenched in blood and is like,
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  now you got to deal with this.
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  Like, and how do they keep this marriage going?
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  How do they keep this relationship going?
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  Do they?
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  After everything that they have put each other through,
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  after her being like, now you see what I'm fucking capable of,
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  right?
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  So she took that control back in the relationship.
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  And I love that movie.
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  - Yeah, I think it's just ultimately like so good.
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  It is like one of those femme fatale women.
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  And, you know, I actually think one of the movies
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  that I picked really contrast with this well,
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  I think it's kind of interesting to see,
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  you said it came out in 2014, right?
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  The way that this type of character has evolved
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  because one of my favorite romantic mayhem murderous women
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  is actually Sharon Stone and Basic Instinct.
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  I've never seen Basic Instincts.
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  I know, it occurred to me recently
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  when Andrew and I were talking about like,
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  showing vagina in movies.
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  (laughing)
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  - Okay.
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  - And I was like, oh yeah.
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  That's like the most iconic show your vagina scene of all time.
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  - Yeah, for the power of an individual you are.
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  - How have you never seen Basic Instincts?
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  - I don't know, but I should.
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  That should be my next one.
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  - Yes, it's also set in San Francisco.
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  So when I first moved here, like the week on Muteers,
• 18:39
  I was like, I gotta watch Basic Instinct.
• 18:41
  - And the Princess Diaries.
• 18:43
  - Yes, yeah, you know.
• 18:44
  - Back to back.
• 18:45
  - Yeah, you know, both femme fatales, you know.
• 18:48
  - Double feature makes sense.
• 18:50
  - Which just makes sense.
• 18:52
  - But Captain Trammell, you know,
• 18:55
  iconic, open the legs shot
• 18:58
  that we've all seen, parodied so many times,
• 19:01
  and is what, you know, I unfortunately,
• 19:04
  I think Sharon Stone is most known for.
• 19:06
  - Yeah, follow-up character.
• 19:08
  - But this movie came out in 1992,
• 19:10
  and it is known as an erotic thriller,
• 19:14
  and Michael J. Fox is, or no, no.
• 19:18
  Michael J. Fox.
• 19:19
  - I was like, wow, I really wanna see this.
• 19:21
  Now that sounds amazing.
• 19:22
  (laughing)
• 19:23
  - Michael Douglas.
• 19:25
  - Okay, that means,
• 19:26
  yeah, Michael Douglas is in it, Sharon Stone is in it,
• 19:29
  and it really is like this femme fatale,
• 19:32
  she's playing like these power games
• 19:35
  with the detective Michael Douglas,
• 19:38
  and it's really kind of about like obsession and control,
• 19:42
  and she's playing like kind of this, this cat and mouse.
• 19:45
  So the detective is investigating her
• 19:47
  for murdering her husband,
• 19:50
  and so he kind of like meets her at this moment,
• 19:54
  but he becomes like an enthralled and obsessed with her,
• 19:59
  and she is just like the hottest woman you have ever seen.
• 20:03
  Everyone is obsessed with her.
• 20:04
  She exudes sex like she's like, no.
• 20:07
  - Don't say whether or not she did kill her husband.
• 20:09
  - Even though this movie came out in 1992.
• 20:12
  - 1999, I wanna see it now.
• 20:14
  - Okay, yeah, and it is, you know,
• 20:17
  defined as the 90s erotic thriller.
• 20:21
  I mean, honestly, I think that it is such a unique movie,
• 20:25
  and I want more movies like it,
• 20:27
  where it's just like, I do think like Gone Girl
• 20:30
  is kind of like our generation's version of that.
• 20:34
  Amy Dunn is a lot more multifaceted,
• 20:37
  than the way that Sharon Stone is portrayed in it,
• 20:41
  or I guess Catherine Trammell is portrayed in it.
• 20:44
  - I think that might just be like the progression
• 20:46
  of how female characters are written too, over time,
• 20:49
  like 2014, and you know, it's based on a novel.
• 20:52
  It's like, yeah, she sucks, but how did she get to this point?
• 20:56
  Why is she doing what she does?
• 20:57
  And the husband fucking sucks too, so.
• 21:00
  - Yeah, that's a bit too big.
• 21:02
  - Yes, and it is kind of like a whirlwind,
• 21:07
  but we get caught in, but yeah, I really love that movie,
• 21:11
  and I think it's so interesting.
• 21:12
  So you don't get to see the marriage
• 21:15
  that makes her a murderous spouse,
• 21:17
  but the parts you do get are just great.
• 21:21
  - I am gonna add that to my list.
• 21:25
  - Yeah, to be watched.
• 21:27
  - Yes, the TV watched movie list that I have in my phone.
• 21:31
  So I mentioned this earlier in the episode,
• 21:34
  but I do think one of the most,
• 21:36
  if not the most iconic, like killer spouse movie
• 21:39
  of all time is The Shining.
• 21:41
  The Shining came out in 1980.
• 21:43
  It is a horror film directed by Stanley Kubrick,
• 21:45
  based on the Stephen King novel.
• 21:47
  So it centers on Jack Torrance,
• 21:49
  who's played by Jack Nicholson.
• 21:51
  He's a writer who accepts a job
• 21:53
  as the winter caretaker of the remote overlook hotel
• 21:57
  located in the mountains,
• 21:58
  and he brings his wife Wendy
• 22:00
  with her amazing cigarette with the long ash.
• 22:03
  And their son, Danny, who has psychic abilities
• 22:08
  called The Shining.
• 22:09
  That is kind of dived in,
• 22:11
  driven, broken, dived, dived into.
• 22:15
  Dived into more in the sequel, which is called,
• 22:19
  "God Your Sleep."
• 22:20
  So in this movie, there is,
• 22:24
  there's malevolent forces in the house
• 22:26
  that slowly start to drive Jack insane.
• 22:29
  All work and no play makes Jack a very dull boy.
• 22:32
  He starts writing that over and over again
• 22:35
  in his typewriter.
• 22:36
  He's seeing ghosts.
• 22:37
  He's hallucinating.
• 22:39
  Or maybe the ghost are really there
• 22:41
  because Danny's seeing them a lot too.
• 22:43
  There's a naked lady in a bathtub.
• 22:45
  There's some twins in the hallway.
• 22:48
  There is blood coming out of the elevator.
• 22:51
  And then that famous scene where he finally snaps
• 22:54
  and is chasing Danny and Wendy through the hotel
• 22:58
  with an axe breaks down the door.
• 23:01
  He hears Johnny just amazing and iconic.
• 23:06
  And eventually, oh God, now I'm spoiling the fucking Shining.
• 23:10
  But you know what, whatever.
• 23:11
  Leads them into the maze where Jack meets his frigid demise.
• 23:16
  But the entire adventure that gets us there is twisted
• 23:21
  and you don't quite know if the things
• 23:23
  that they're seeing are actually there,
• 23:25
  they're imagining them.
• 23:27
  That picture in the end, we don't know if that means
• 23:29
  that Jack's been absorbed into the house
• 23:32
  or if he's been there before.
• 23:34
  It's one of those movies that has kind of left up
• 23:36
  for interpretation a little bit at the end.
• 23:39
  Even though I guess Dr. Sleeve kind of ties up some of that.
• 23:42
  But just a forever endearing classic horror movie
• 23:47
  and probably one of the most classics of all time.
• 23:51
  - Yeah, you honestly cannot be Kubrick like anything.
• 23:56
  I think he's just like such a master film maker
• 23:59
  and I could go on forever
• 24:00
  about like different little things in there.
• 24:02
  But because I love that movie so much,
• 24:06
  one of the times that I went to Denver,
• 24:09
  we actually drove up to Estes Park.
• 24:12
  - I love that stand. - And so cute.
• 24:15
  - Yeah, and so we toured the Stanley Hotel,
• 24:17
  which is the hotel that Stephen King stayed in
• 24:21
  when he wrote the shining.
• 24:23
  - Oh, that's cool.
• 24:24
  - And so they do ghost tours, they talk about like all these
• 24:27
  sidings, we went during the day, I do want to go
• 24:30
  at like for one of the night tours.
• 24:32
  - Oh, that'd be so cool. - We're like,
• 24:33
  a fake sayon or whatever.
• 24:36
  I am extremely sensitive to elevation though.
• 24:40
  So it did not do well up there.
• 24:44
  It's like 11,000 feet above sea level there.
• 24:47
  It's crazy.
• 24:48
  But fun fact, also where they filmed Dumb and Dumber.
• 24:53
  (laughing)
• 24:56
  - I didn't know that actually.
• 24:57
  I don't know why.
• 24:58
  - I probably, I told you.
• 25:00
  - Yeah, it's probably you who told me that.
• 25:02
  - I've been to Estes Park also and it was beautiful,
• 25:05
  but I am also very sensitive to elevation.
• 25:07
  So that's still very long.
• 25:10
  - They basically were like, if you feel like a ghost
• 25:13
  just touching you, it's probably not that.
• 25:14
  It's probably you getting elevation sickness
• 25:17
  and you should sit down and I'm like, got it.
• 25:19
  I should go sit.
• 25:21
  - You think it's a ghost, you're actually just passing away.
• 25:24
  So you should probably go to a lower altitude.
• 25:28
  - Yeah, I'm fine.
• 25:29
  - Maybe that's how they get the ghosts.
• 25:30
  You just die in elevation sickness.
• 25:32
  - The other fun fact is Stephen King hates the Stanley Kubrick
• 25:37
  interpretation of the book.
• 25:40
  He hates the movie.
• 25:41
  - What?
• 25:42
  - Yeah, he hates the movie.
• 25:43
  Yeah.
• 25:43
  - Oh my goodness.
• 25:44
  - Yep.
• 25:45
  Yeah, and his name, before he died, they had like beef.
• 25:50
  Yeah.
• 25:51
  Stanley Kubrick.
• 25:52
  - We should, he's still alive.
• 25:54
  - Did we talk about that in our celebrity beef episode?
• 25:57
  'Cause we absolutely should.
• 25:58
  That's how it's amazing.
• 25:59
  - Oh no, but yeah, he does not like the version.
• 26:02
  - Yeah.
• 26:03
  - And like, yeah, they were, they were feuding for a long time.
• 26:06
  But Kubrick is so interesting.
• 26:08
  And yeah, I think that, you know, that kind of like,
• 26:11
  he's Johnny and Jack Nicholson's face and it is so creepy.
• 26:15
  Like it just sticks with you, iconic imagery
• 26:18
  throughout the years.
• 26:19
  And, you know, Shelley DuVall was like,
• 26:22
  absolutely tortured on that movie.
• 26:23
  So real man, ensued from Kubrick making her do that scene.
• 26:28
  Like, what, like 90 times?
• 26:31
  - Yeah, I was.
• 26:32
  - I don't remember.
• 26:32
  - Just about to say it like, yeah, I mean,
• 26:34
  Kubrick was amazing and there was no denying that.
• 26:37
  But like, he tortured Shelley DuVall and she--
• 26:41
  - Probably other people.
• 26:42
  - Oh yeah, I'm sure he was, I'm sure he was fucking terrible
• 26:45
  to work with.
• 26:46
  But, you know, he got some art out of it.
• 26:49
  And yeah, Shelley DuVall's performance is incredible.
• 26:52
  So yeah, a great movie.
• 26:55
  - Yeah, incredible because she actually is being tortured.
• 26:58
  - Yeah, she's horrified.
• 27:00
  She's not acting.
• 27:00
  - She is horrified.
• 27:02
  - She's horrified at this man.
• 27:03
  I would be too.
• 27:04
  I would be too.
• 27:05
  I actually want to talk about a more modern show
• 27:11
  that I think is really, really popular now.
• 27:14
  And such, like, it is an anti-hero.
• 27:18
  And we've seen so many seasons of this show.
• 27:22
  But when I think of murderous marriage,
• 27:24
  I think of you, Joe Goldberg and Love.
• 27:29
  Yeah, I think of you.
• 27:30
  - I think of you.
• 27:32
  - I think of you.
• 27:34
  - I think Andrew would be more likely to murder me
• 27:36
  than the other way around.
• 27:37
  I think he'd just snap one day and be like,
• 27:39
  I can't take this bitch anymore.
• 27:41
  - She's thinking about it.
• 27:44
  She's like, I don't know.
• 27:45
  - I don't know.
• 27:46
  - I don't know.
• 27:48
  - You think of the show you?
• 27:50
  - Yes, I think of the show at you with Joe Goldberg,
• 27:54
  which Love Quinn and him, you know,
• 27:57
  if I was having to say, I woof you every single day,
• 28:02
  have you never seen the show you?
• 28:03
  - I don't watch this show.
• 28:05
  - You've never seen it?
• 28:06
  - No, I've heard that the first couple seasons
• 28:09
  are really good and that it kind of falls off on the end.
• 28:11
  - It does.
• 28:12
  It does.
• 28:13
  - How many seasons are there?
• 28:15
  - I think there's like five now,
• 28:16
  but the first two seasons are great.
• 28:19
  - Maybe I'll give it a whirl.
• 28:21
  I do need a new alone show.
• 28:23
  - Yeah, he is a stalker and like an obsessive person.
• 28:28
  And you do not want to vote for him,
• 28:31
  but you know, Penn Badgerly plays him likable.
• 28:35
  And but they end up, he ends up meeting Love Quinn,
• 28:40
  who's in season two, and they are quite murderous together.
• 28:45
  And so it does become kind of like him meeting his match
• 28:51
  and things like that.
• 28:52
  And so when I think of couple who murder together,
• 28:55
  I always think of you.
• 28:58
  And you know, you was kind of set in New York City,
• 29:02
  Los Angeles, then eventually it moves to London.
• 29:06
  So there are some quite beautiful scenes within it,
• 29:10
  but it really goes over kind of like the modern day obsession,
• 29:15
  this man who is completely an inzel and a stalker
• 29:20
  and uses kind of social media
• 29:22
  and everything there.
• 29:24
  He's very like unreliable narrator.
• 29:26
  - Interesting.
• 29:27
  - And people like Penn Badgerly is very attractive.
• 29:30
  So people idolize him and call him hot
• 29:33
  and are like, are obsessed with Joe.
• 29:34
  And Penn Badgerly is like, this man is a murderer.
• 29:38
  You should not lust after him.
• 29:40
  Like he's a terrible person and all this stuff.
• 29:43
  - Remember that study that came out,
• 29:45
  I gosh, it must have been the 80s and 90s,
• 29:47
  like in real life that people are more likely to trust.
• 29:50
  Somebody who's good looking.
• 29:52
  - Tractive, yeah.
• 29:52
  - And then yeah, conventionally good looking.
• 29:55
  Like they showed a bunch of pictures to people
• 29:57
  between a conventionally attractive person
• 29:59
  and conventionally unattractive person.
• 30:01
  It was like, who's nicer, who's friendly
• 30:03
  or who's the better person.
• 30:05
  And even if you, you know, there's no way of knowing
• 30:08
  once at the hands and then good looking people.
• 30:12
  - Yeah, that's why you get like a Ted Bundy, you know?
• 30:15
  Where people are like, oh, I'm likely to follow
• 30:17
  the stranger to a car.
• 30:19
  - Right.
• 30:19
  - He's attractive.
• 30:20
  Why would he hurt me?
• 30:21
  - You actually got me to watch another movie
• 30:24
  that you reminded me of just then with the killer couples
• 30:27
  and it was Natural Born Killers.
• 30:29
  - Oh, oh my God.
• 30:31
  How did I forget about that?
• 30:32
  - Yeah.
• 30:33
  - That wins.
• 30:34
  That one.
• 30:34
  That's the number one of most iconic.
• 30:36
  - Oh my God.
• 30:37
  Yeah, with Woody Harrelson and Juliet Lewis.
• 30:41
  So I just watched this maybe for the first time,
• 30:43
  maybe within the last six months
• 30:44
  because you told me to watch it.
• 30:46
  - I can't believe I see a movie.
• 30:49
  - Literally, if you guys have never seen it,
• 30:52
  like if you like a trippy, like, like,
• 30:56
  like almost like Tarantino asks, it's not Tarantino,
• 31:00
  but it has that like vibe and feel Woody.
• 31:05
  I almost said Woody Nelson.
• 31:07
  (laughing)
• 31:08
  - It'd be sick of Woody Nelson starting the remake
• 31:11
  of this movie.
• 31:11
  - Yeah, he can be in a lot of--
• 31:13
  - He can be in a lot of life being remake
• 31:14
  of Mrs. Smith.
• 31:15
  - Yeah, we'll just murch 'em by pushing 'em over.
• 31:19
  - We murdered Woody Nelson.
• 31:20
  - Willie Nelson, not Woody Nelson.
• 31:22
  - There we go, fuck.
• 31:23
  (laughing)
• 31:25
  (screaming)
• 31:27
  You know, it's after work today.
• 31:30
  - Yeah, listen, it's been a long four year.
• 31:32
  - Yeah, Woody Harrelson and it is so hot.
• 31:36
  - Oh, he's very hot.
• 31:37
  - Yeah.
• 31:38
  So it was Juliet Lewis.
• 31:39
  She's super hot in this too.
• 31:40
  - Yeah, they're both so big.
• 31:41
  - Also saying toologist though.
• 31:43
  - I don't love that about her.
• 31:44
  - I know.
• 31:45
  - I'm like, she is and she's so iconic.
• 31:48
  She was kind of raised in it.
• 31:50
  She's so iconic and I fucking hate that she's a Scientologist
• 31:53
  because I'm like, you know me, you know me.
• 31:56
  You can't even support Will Smith anymore
• 31:58
  because of that.
• 31:59
  - No.
• 32:00
  - Juliet, she's out now.
• 32:02
  I don't think she's like super publicly distancing herself
• 32:06
  or like talking bad about the church,
• 32:08
  but she's out now.
• 32:10
  - She's not in church anymore.
• 32:12
  - No, but she was a Scientologist.
• 32:13
  - She's a Scientologist.
• 32:14
  - We need you to go and call her daddy
• 32:16
  and talk about like leaving the church
• 32:18
  and then we'll like you again.
• 32:20
  - But she's like one of those celebrities
• 32:22
  who is like her whole family's in there.
• 32:25
  So like a lot of the time they'll let like,
• 32:28
  what's the 70s show, Laura, whatever name is?
• 32:31
  - Oh, Laura, Pupon, Pupon, Pupon, Pupon, Pupon, Pupon.
• 32:36
  - Pupon, Pupon.
• 32:39
  - Pion.
• 32:40
  - Laura, tampon.
• 32:41
  - We are children.
• 32:44
  We are children.
• 32:46
  - Yeah.
• 32:46
  You know, so she, they let her like kind of quiet exit
• 32:51
  from Scientology if they didn't want like a Leah Remny.
• 32:54
  - Yeah, they didn't want another Leah Remny situation
• 32:57
  where she does a tell all novel and like spills all their tea.
• 33:00
  - Yes, but honestly, I'm so mad at myself
• 33:03
  that I didn't think of natural born killers.
• 33:05
  - You're welcome.
• 33:06
  - So that's so good.
• 33:07
  Yeah, thank you.
• 33:08
  - Yeah.
• 33:09
  - Thank you.
• 33:09
  - I mean, I'm sure there are so many different,
• 33:12
  you know, murderous couples and murder that happens
• 33:16
  in a marriage that we miss that we didn't talk about.
• 33:20
  So if you do have one that you love, shoot us a DM
• 33:25
  and follow us on Patreon and join the discussion there.
• 33:29
  We also have a community that you can join.
• 33:32
  But you know, there are so many different movies
• 33:36
  and things coming out right now that we've seen.
• 33:39
  We also have like splitsville where chaos ensues
• 33:42
  within a marriage.
• 33:44
  - I just thought of another one.
• 33:45
  Ready or not.
• 33:46
  - Oh, yes.
• 33:48
  - Yeah.
• 33:49
  - I love that movie.
• 33:51
  And aren't they making a sequel already?
• 33:54
  - They are.
• 33:54
  - Yes, they are.
• 33:55
  - I think Sarah Michelle Geller is in it.
• 33:57
  I love that movie.
• 33:58
  So that came out in the last at least five years or so
• 34:01
  where--
• 34:02
  - I think it was 2020, yeah.
• 34:03
  - Yeah, it's been pretty recent where a couple gets married
• 34:06
  and I won't spoil it 'cause it is more of a new one.
• 34:09
  And she has to play a very violent game
• 34:12
  of hide and seek with his entire family.
• 34:14
  I love that movie.
• 34:15
  It's chaotic and crazy and bloody.
• 34:19
  - Literally amazing.
• 34:21
  - Literally amazing.
• 34:22
  I'm just gonna keep thinking of more and more.
• 34:24
  But yeah, we could go on and on about this.
• 34:26
  (laughing)
• 34:27
  - Yeah, yeah, right, exactly.
• 34:29
  - I would do wanna ask though.
• 34:31
  Olivia, if you were married and you found out
• 34:35
  your spouse was a killer, how would you react?
• 34:38
  - Okay, so I haven't thought about it if my spouse was,
• 34:45
  but I've actually had this conversation before
• 34:48
  about if you figured out that your child murdered someone,
• 34:53
  let's say like on accident,
• 34:56
  would you cover it up?
• 34:58
  And I have thought about it and I'm like, yes, I would.
• 35:02
  - Okay, Jean-Bene's mom, shit.
• 35:05
  - No, I'm not murdering the child.
• 35:07
  I'm saying my child murdered someone.
• 35:09
  - Jean-Bene's brother killed her.
• 35:11
  - Oh, okay.
• 35:12
  - And then Axi Ram's never dead up.
• 35:13
  - No, I'm not talking allegedly.
• 35:16
  - Yeah, okay, no, I'm not talking about
• 35:18
  if my child murdered my other child.
• 35:20
  I'm saying if my child murdered a different kid, right?
• 35:25
  - Okay.
• 35:26
  - And then when I was on accident, would I cover it up?
• 35:29
  Yeah.
• 35:30
  - You would.
• 35:31
  - But it had to be an accident.
• 35:33
  Like if I thought my kid was like a fucking serial killer,
• 35:36
  like no.
• 35:37
  - Oh, put them away, dude.
• 35:38
  The minute my kid starts doing serial killer shit,
• 35:41
  I'm like calling, like somebody come and get this thing
• 35:44
  out of my house.
• 35:44
  - Yeah.
• 35:45
  - Like this kid just killed a rabbit.
• 35:47
  No, out out of the house, you're out.
• 35:49
  But Andrew and I have talked about this.
• 35:53
  And I think it just depends on the situation.
• 35:55
  Like if he killed someone in self-defense, that's fine.
• 35:57
  I did tell him he's allowed to murder a man,
• 36:01
  but he's not allowed to murder any women.
• 36:03
  - Okay, I met any man for any reason,
• 36:09
  or in self-defense.
• 36:10
  - No, it's not for, in self-defense,
• 36:13
  or if I provide him a name.
• 36:15
  - What if it, okay.
• 36:16
  (laughing)
• 36:18
  - Then it's fine.
• 36:19
  - What if it's like a murky self-defense?
• 36:21
  And like if you just told him that,
• 36:23
  is any gonna say like all of them are self-defense?
• 36:25
  Wouldn't anybody who gets caught for murder?
• 36:28
  - Yeah, I mean, I'd be fine.
• 36:29
  Unless it was a woman, don't kill a woman.
• 36:34
  But I was right, draw the line.
• 36:36
  Don't kill a child. - Okay, even in self-defense.
• 36:39
  - No, let her take you down.
• 36:41
  - Okay.
• 36:42
  - Yeah, let her win, let her win.
• 36:45
  Good for her.
• 36:45
  - She had a reason.
• 36:46
  I'm sure she had a good reason.
• 36:48
  But yeah, I guess it's nuanced.
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  - Would you help them cover it up,
• 36:52
  even if you said it was in self-defense,
• 36:55
  or would you be like, we're going to the cops?
• 36:56
  - This entire podcast episode is gonna incriminate me
• 37:00
  someday.
• 37:00
  Someday is gonna come back.
• 37:02
  I don't know.
• 37:03
  - Who's murdering?
• 37:04
  - I don't know.
• 37:05
  - What?
• 37:06
  - Madda.
• 37:06
  - I don't know.
• 37:07
  - What?
• 37:08
  - Madda.
• 37:09
  - He's a nice guy.
• 37:11
  - What?
• 37:12
  - Madda.
• 37:13
  - Yeah.
• 37:14
  (laughing)
• 37:15
  - This is psych-ethetical.
• 37:16
  I have no child nor husband, so.
• 37:19
  I think it depends on the situation.
• 37:22
  If he hypothetically killed someone who was on my list,
• 37:26
  somebody that we all want to see pass away,
• 37:32
  then yes, I would probably help him cover up the scene.
• 37:35
  - In that case, are you like helping him cover up
• 37:38
  an assassination?
• 37:39
  What's going on here?
• 37:40
  - Right.
• 37:41
  - What?
• 37:43
  That's not what I'm insinuating.
• 37:45
  Am I insinuating?
• 37:46
  Are you?
• 37:47
  'Cause I'm not.
• 37:48
  I wouldn't have.
• 37:49
  - I don't know.
• 37:50
  She's making a list, checking it twice,
• 37:52
  but I'll watch out.
• 37:53
  - I have, listen, I have a purge list.
• 37:55
  It's fine.
• 37:56
  - Andrew is a little short, so not scenario is he and elf?
• 38:00
  - Why does he need to be an elf to commit murder?
• 38:04
  - 'Cause I said she's making a list, she's checking it twice.
• 38:06
  - Oh!
• 38:07
  - So.
• 38:08
  - It's like, what the fuck does Andrew being an elf
• 38:11
  have to do with him committing an assassination?
• 38:14
  (laughing)
• 38:18
  - He needs to be.
• 38:19
  - Okay, you know what, that's better.
• 38:20
  If Andrew is a mythical creature,
• 38:22
  and it comes in an elf, a queen for a creature,
• 38:24
  I'm a mythical queen for a creature.
• 38:27
  And he's an elf.
• 38:30
  Then yes, political assassinations about.
• 38:33
  - Okay.
• 38:34
  Just no women, okay.
• 38:35
  Just no women, no women.
• 38:37
  - So my answer is, I feel like, if it were my child,
• 38:42
  yes, if it were my husband, no.
• 38:45
  'Cause I'd be like, you.
• 38:47
  (laughing)
• 38:50
  Like, you'd probably have to be like,
• 38:52
  it was an accident, and then would I really believe it?
• 38:55
  And then in my mind, I'd be like, they're gonna murder me.
• 38:58
  - Um, yeah, see that's why it couldn't be a woman.
• 39:02
  Like, it couldn't be a woman.
• 39:03
  But like, if your husband like,
• 39:05
  Luigi'd someone, I'll just say it.
• 39:07
  I'll just say it, if your husband will be
• 39:10
  - Okay.
• 39:11
  - So the only murder you're accepting is assassination.
• 39:15
  But I will accept if Andrew decides he wants to go full Luigi
• 39:20
  Wahoo.
• 39:22
  - Okay, you're gonna be a pro-indulgent.
• 39:23
  - Hypnotically, hypothetically.
• 39:24
  - Hypnotically.
• 39:25
  - Okay, if you're gonna do it.
• 39:26
  - If I murdered someone, would you forgive me?
• 39:31
  - Maybe.
• 39:36
  - Come.
• 39:37
  - It's better than the immediate know for the husband.
• 39:40
  - That's fair, that's fair.
• 39:41
  - Yeah.
• 39:43
  - I think we'd have to have the terms.
• 39:45
  - Yeah.
• 39:46
  - I wouldn't help you bury the body.
• 39:48
  - Okay.
• 39:49
  - But like, I wouldn't ask questions.
• 39:51
  - You wouldn't, would you?
• 39:53
  You wouldn't ask questions.
• 39:54
  I feel like I might help you bury a body.
• 39:57
  But again, it depends on who he was.
• 40:00
  'Cause it's a geek.
• 40:01
  - Okay, yeah, yeah.
• 40:02
  I'm not murdering women.
• 40:03
  What about a monster?
• 40:04
  - No.
• 40:05
  - Jesus Christ.
• 40:06
  - We were really deep into this.
• 40:10
  - We were really deep into this.
• 40:11
  - This is recorded for the, the internet.
• 40:13
  and then the airwave.
• 40:15
  The CIA agents that are assigned to us
• 40:18
  we're having a photo shoot right now.
• 40:20
  Yeah, totally.
• 40:22
  Well, that's enough for our marital strife.
• 40:25
  Before we incriminate ourselves any further,
• 40:28
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• 40:32
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• 40:36
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• 40:42
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• 40:45
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• 40:50
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• 40:53
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• 40:55
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• 40:58
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• 41:02
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