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NFL Week 10 Main Slate | November 10, 2024 | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's going clear the lift on What's Up?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tamberline here aka Totagg and Tambo back for another
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  Speaker 1: edition of the main Slate show Week ten here on
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  Speaker 1: going on right now live, so I'm sure there'll be
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  Speaker 1: some updates throughout. But Hoopster, bring you in first, man
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  Speaker 1: rocking that Lions gear. We got the big boy bet
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  Speaker 1: between you and Title now for my Ravens versus your Lions.
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  Speaker 1: Somehow I'm not even involved. This is perfect. What's going on? Man?
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  Speaker 2: They can just sit on the sidelines and enjoy the entertainment.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm feeling pretty good about it. And the
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  Speaker 2: one thing the NFC is definitely a little weaker than
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  Speaker 2: the AFC, So I think I feel pretty good about
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  Speaker 2: my side, but once you get to the playoffs, anything
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  Speaker 2: can happen. As you guys both know good solid slates
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  Speaker 2: that I mean, we got what ten games, so kind
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  Speaker 2: of on the smaller side, I mean, this is probably
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  Speaker 2: the lowest number of main slate games that we get.
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  Speaker 2: We have some buys obviously, where are they playing today
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  Speaker 2: Germany or something, so yeah, so that game's going on
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  Speaker 2: right now, but a lot of different ways to go.
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  Speaker 2: I guess the one thing that definitely stands out, and
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  Speaker 2: I try to point out a couple points, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when I'm going through and building my teams, is like,
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  Speaker 2: the running backs are solid, but the prices are starting
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  Speaker 2: to creep up a little bit now, and we don't
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  Speaker 2: have like super cheap running back plays. So like the
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  Speaker 2: Kamara that looks good, like Saquon Barkley looks good, Breece
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  Speaker 2: Hall looks good, but the prices are starting to get
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  Speaker 2: up there. Now we have Christian McCaffrey back as well,
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  Speaker 2: So the running backs look nice, but the prices are
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  Speaker 2: up a little bit on those guys. Wide receiver, A
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  Speaker 2: ton of plays, a lot of good tight end plays
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  Speaker 2: as well too, that we'll get to and I think
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  Speaker 2: a couple got a little bit or could get a
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  Speaker 2: little bit better if the news breaks breaks in the
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  Speaker 2: right direction. Amari Cooper's the one piece that I guess
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  Speaker 2: we're kind of waiting on, but seems likely for him
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  Speaker 2: to miss today, but we haven't got any updates on that.
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  Speaker 2: So if he somehow's in, that would definitely change the
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  Speaker 2: dynamic of that game. I hope he's out because I
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  Speaker 2: like where I'm at in that game. So yeah, we'll see,
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  Speaker 2: but excited as always to dive in and break down
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  Speaker 2: the slight with you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, running back plays that are nice but interesting price
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  Speaker 1: that'll make you think twice. I have to go through it.
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  Speaker 1: When we get to the slate, we'll check it all out.
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  Speaker 1: But Hoopster, congrats on the MMA shipper and congrats to
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  Speaker 1: all the members out there with the MMA shippers. I
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  Speaker 1: guy Hebrew was back into the mix. We had Big
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  Speaker 1: Boy College Football Score last night. We had NBA Showdown
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  Speaker 1: shipper from our guy Butter Like, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: good stuff going on before I bring the title, and
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  Speaker 1: we got Nate Sean Tweezy, our boy, hope your sister's
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: I saw that note there earlier, always in here supporting
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  Speaker 1: and we appreciate you man, just everybody else. Lot lots
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  Speaker 1: of good people in the chat. Instead of bringing them
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  Speaker 1: all up, I think I'll bring title in. We got
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  Speaker 1: ten games titled to talk about. But how you doing,
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  Speaker 1: my friend another Sunday Morning, Free money Sunday Baby, Let's go.
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  Speaker 4: Free money Sunday Man week ten. It's so crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, first, shout out Hoop my man, Rio, shout out Dartsman.
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  Speaker 3: He was a part of the Chop Crack Drafter, got
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  Speaker 3: the nuts Sam.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of people in the discord.
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  Speaker 2: M A.
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  Speaker 3: Weggs shout out you are four or five in the
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  Speaker 3: MMA streets. College football team continues to crush. My middle
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  Speaker 3: school gym teacher actually texted me that he had a
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  Speaker 3: sweat so he's partnership and he goes, I know nothing
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  Speaker 3: about college football. Tell the guys they do a great,
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  Speaker 3: great job. He absolutely loves the sport. Another one of
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  Speaker 3: my buddies just got into college.
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  Speaker 2: He hates MMA.
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  Speaker 3: He always gets tilted by the results, can't win. He
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  Speaker 3: jumped to college, so shout out the college team. Absolutely
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  Speaker 3: crush there but yeah, ten games, which isn't the most
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  Speaker 3: by any means, but I mean it's a spread out
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  Speaker 3: as it really gets. I think we look at our projections,
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  Speaker 3: go to quarterback. No one ownership above twelve percent today,
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  Speaker 3: What does that mean? Anyone you like, any stack you like,
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  Speaker 3: I think you can play it. You can definitely find
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  Speaker 3: ways to get different. But yeah, already talks to football.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get into it here in just a sec.
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  Speaker 1: Kind to bring this up quickly for you guys, just
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  Speaker 1: so you know, because it's an opportunity. I've never had
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  Speaker 1: so you got a chance to get in it. But
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  Speaker 1: if you can help us fill it up, we certainly
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  Speaker 1: appreciate it. If you want to get in and join
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  Speaker 1: the nation. We just talked about having all the sports,
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  Speaker 1: crushing in all the sports. We're gonna have NFL, all
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  Speaker 1: the main stuffs up for the most part showdown tonight.
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  Speaker 1: We already had the showdown stuff up for this Germany game.
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  Speaker 1: College crushing title just mentioned MMA just all over it
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  Speaker 1: last night. Ship at Nation Domination. I coined that one.
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  Speaker 1: NASCAR's rounding out, I believe for the season. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's the championship this week and then off until after
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  Speaker 1: football they don't like messing with the NFL and then
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  Speaker 1: NBA NHL in full swing, So lots of good stuff there.
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  Speaker 1: And speaking of NFL, I'm gonna bring up the stone.
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  Speaker 1: You guys know how this works. Got to get to
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  Speaker 1: four hundred likes to keep it up. But we'll start
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  Speaker 1: it for the first game here. We've got the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: at the Bears title. I'm gonna stick with us. I
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  Speaker 1: just pull one up there. Maybe the NHL shippers too
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  Speaker 1: from our guy Jake. But Grant's you on the slate
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  Speaker 1: who mentioned running backs? I mean, how much of Donna
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  Speaker 1: Mitchell do you gotta have to make this slate work
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  Speaker 1: because he's in every single lineup. I'll talk more about
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  Speaker 1: that later as well.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Yeah, that.
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  Speaker 4: Shows the lack of value on this slate.
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  Speaker 3: And when that's the case, obviously a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: are gonna gravitate to more mid tier builds, especially when
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  Speaker 3: you have guys like Josh Downs with no pitch in
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  Speaker 3: with Flacco there DeAndre Hopkins, I'm this guy could be
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  Speaker 3: a top ten wide receiver.
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  Speaker 4: The rest of the way way too cheap on both sides.
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  Speaker 3: Also with most times when we have really bad value
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  Speaker 3: a wide receiver and it doesn't look like running backs
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  Speaker 3: going to be cheap, that always brings in two tight
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  Speaker 3: end builds, which I think is very much in play
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  Speaker 3: this week. Like Will Disley gets you eight down there
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  Speaker 3: for the three k's, if a Donnie Mitchell bus or something,
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  Speaker 3: or there's no value to come through, if that gets
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  Speaker 3: you Kamara or Bresee or Bijon or Daniels, whatever it
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  Speaker 3: may be. So I love it when it's clear that
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  Speaker 3: people will go multiple positions in the flex, which I
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  Speaker 3: do think that's the case today. I always look at
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  Speaker 3: over unders team total stuff like that. I mean one
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  Speaker 3: that stands out in San fran box, a couple solid ones,
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  Speaker 3: a couple pretty bad ones too. But in terms of
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  Speaker 3: ownership and just like who people are, like I said,
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  Speaker 3: no one over twelve percent, we have projected at quarterback
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  Speaker 3: that means it's going to be spread out outside a
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  Speaker 3: couple guys that are on the cash report, you know
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  Speaker 3: who will get ownership.
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  Speaker 4: We have ownership as well. But it's a good slate
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  Speaker 4: I'm excited for.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to our guy Rob. We will We'll
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  Speaker 1: get some more members high school. Yeah, bring it some
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  Speaker 1: more members that way, Hoop, you talked about the running
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  Speaker 1: backs earlier. Obviously going to get into these ten games.
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  Speaker 1: It's a seven to three split. You're probably building a
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  Speaker 1: lot of lineups this morning, today, this morning, last night.
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  Speaker 1: Whenever you put your builds in that you're seeing her
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  Speaker 1: early only lineup. So that's gonna be fun. The anti
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  Speaker 1: sweat later today, you'll probably have some lineups to really
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  Speaker 1: good off the top and then just have to sweat
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  Speaker 1: out the afternoon. But any other overview thoughts who before
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  Speaker 1: we get to this first one.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, the value rests at the wide receiver position and
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  Speaker 2: the tight end position. So if you go in and
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  Speaker 2: build teams, you're just naturally going to get a lot
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  Speaker 2: of two tight end teams, a lot of probably four
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver teams, which is kind of by necessity, like
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  Speaker 2: you kind of have to do it if you want
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  Speaker 2: to you know, play Alvin Kamara at a high rate,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to play Saquon, if you want to
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  Speaker 2: play Breeze Hall. I mean all the good running you know,
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  Speaker 2: Austin Eckler's now in the equation, he's a little bit cheaper,
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  Speaker 2: but besides him, everyone mid six for the most part,
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  Speaker 2: and above that you want to play at the position,
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  Speaker 2: So naturally gonna get wide received for wide receiver builds,
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  Speaker 2: you're naturally gonna get two tight end builds. And I
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  Speaker 2: think you just kind of have to roll with it today.
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  Speaker 2: So that's definitely another good talking point for this slate.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to comment on that real quick actually too.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, just right here, Jordan, our guy Newan's
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  Speaker 1: brought up said running back and pretty common in the
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  Speaker 1: flex slate. Defended, but still something we see. And just
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  Speaker 1: to note on what you said, I think that's some
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  Speaker 1: of what's happening today. It's what you said. Even though
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  Speaker 1: those prices are up, I think people feel very comfortable.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many good running backs when we get to
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  Speaker 1: the slate and talk about it. Maybe you don't love
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  Speaker 1: them at the price, or maybe you still can poke
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a hole in them, but there's
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  Speaker 1: so many options that people are struggling to say, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'll play Taste them in the flex or as a
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  Speaker 1: second tight end or Hunter Henry as a second flex
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  Speaker 1: because they feel like they're giving up too much when
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  Speaker 1: they do that. And that's where you see someone like
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  Speaker 1: Mitchell just getting plugged in at thirty four hundred with
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  Speaker 1: what they're missing there. For the colts, I don't know, title,
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  Speaker 1: do you have anything else that you could add to
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  Speaker 1: just because I think that's another thing from a roster
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  Speaker 1: construction standpoint. I think that's the other reason, right people
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  Speaker 1: want to still play mostly three running backs here with
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  Speaker 1: all these options we've got on the hand.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I agree with that for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Just a lot of like roster construction will be really
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  Speaker 3: similar three running backs. People don't want to go under
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  Speaker 3: six k like you're really mixing in like Swift Cohn
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  Speaker 3: or Ackler's Breest or Vijon if you spend up kamar
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  Speaker 3: And and Aaron Jones look like really strong plays. So
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  Speaker 3: there's a handful of really good plays. When people do that,
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  Speaker 3: it almost always will lead to a punt receiver or
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  Speaker 3: just like a punt QB and a cheaper stack but
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  Speaker 3: I do think two tight end builds might even be
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  Speaker 3: probably more popular than four wide receiver builds for the
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  Speaker 3: fact of just how cheap you can get at tight
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  Speaker 3: end that they're on the field a good amount.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think three running.
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  Speaker 3: Backs, like you said, still probably comes in the highest zone,
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  Speaker 3: and rightfully so, there's a lot of safety and strong
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  Speaker 3: running back plays at fair prices.
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  Speaker 2: This week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I have to see how goes. Like I've
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  Speaker 1: was running some stuff this morning, and I definitely see
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  Speaker 1: that still, but it's a little bit I would say
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  Speaker 1: it's a little bit less. It's probably more with the
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  Speaker 1: Sims bros. That are going to get that just because.
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  Speaker 1: But I still think like you could be leaving another
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  Speaker 1: potential twenty five plus point off because I feel like
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  Speaker 1: they're all at running back today even though you are
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  Speaker 1: paying a little bit up for them. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: if you do that, that's the scary part of it, right,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you're getting up somewhere else. Who did you have
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  Speaker 1: any other quick thoughts on that? And then if not,
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  Speaker 1: you can take us right into Patriots Bears.
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  Speaker 2: No. I think that those were very good talking points,
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  Speaker 2: you know, great start to the show kind of talking
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  Speaker 2: strategy roster construction. That's kind of how we like to
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  Speaker 2: do it. And then we're going to you know, kind
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  Speaker 2: of dive into the games. And yeah, this first one's
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  Speaker 2: not very great. I mean we got the Patriots and
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  Speaker 2: the Bears thirty eight total, Bears favored by like a
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  Speaker 2: touchdown here at home. You know, very tough to get
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  Speaker 2: to a lot of pieces on the Patriots side. But
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  Speaker 2: there is some value. I guess you know we're lacking value.
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  Speaker 2: Hunter Henry thirty nine hundred, tight on position. I think
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  Speaker 2: probably a necessity on the slate. Like am I excited
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  Speaker 2: to click that name? No, but like, especially if you're
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  Speaker 2: building a lot of teams need cheap plays. He's thirty
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  Speaker 2: nine hundred. You look at the last three games, nine targets,
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  Speaker 2: six targets, eight targets, and he's converting them into catches,
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  Speaker 2: very high conversion rate. So at thirty nine hundred, probably
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  Speaker 2: necessity on this slate. You know these past catchers, I
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  Speaker 2: guess he can play a little bit of them. Douglas Bourne,
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  Speaker 2: I think I have a little bit of Bourne. I
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  Speaker 2: want to say, maybe let me just pull this up
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  Speaker 2: real quick so I can be very specific about this
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  Speaker 2: Bourne I have, Like, yeah, like three or four percent Born,
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  Speaker 2: just to kind of make everything work again. Am I
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  Speaker 2: excited to play Born? No, Definitely more excited to play
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  Speaker 2: Henry than Boord, but they'll both be in my playerpool.
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  Speaker 2: On the Bear side, mostly DeAndre Swift, I think he's
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  Speaker 2: a great play especially at home favored by seven. The
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  Speaker 2: workload is very solid. You know. The one risk is
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  Speaker 2: him getting vultured at the goal line. That's happened a
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  Speaker 2: lot this year. It could be Caleb Williams, it could
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  Speaker 2: be Roshan Johnson that gets the touchdowns, but you can't
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  Speaker 2: really build teams based on that. Like DeAndre Swift at
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  Speaker 2: home favored by seven, he has twenty plus touch upside,
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  Speaker 2: really like him. Bears defense is gonna be very popular today.
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  Speaker 2: It's a miss price on DK at three K. Just
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  Speaker 2: a good natural pairing. Yes, a lot of people are
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  Speaker 2: gonna play the Bears d not as many people are
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  Speaker 2: gonna be on DeAndre Swift. Definitely like that that pairing
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  Speaker 2: in tournaments. Again, the Bears defense is gonna be very
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  Speaker 2: very popular, but you know, pairing it with DeAndre I
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  Speaker 2: think makes sense. Not super interested in the Caleb Williams stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Keenan Allen at fifty four hundred on DK kind of
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  Speaker 2: stands out. I think he's fine, probably gonna get a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of him, but not gonna be forcing anything
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  Speaker 2: on the passing side. I just hope this is an ugly,
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  Speaker 2: nasty game that the Bears win, like twenty to seven,
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  Speaker 2: and Hunter Henry catches a touchdown for the Patriots and
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  Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift gets two touchdowns and maybe a defensive touchdown,
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  Speaker 2: and then I think I'll be satisfied with this game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a couple quick things and then I'll
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  Speaker 1: kick it to you title on this one, just real quick.
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  Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty likes, almost five hundred watching. Remember
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  Speaker 1: what I said, seven games in the morning, so that's
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  Speaker 1: where a lot of the action's coming from. You're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna want to wait long if you want to see
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  Speaker 1: the stone for that, because there's not as much to
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  Speaker 1: talk about in the afternoon. There's only three games there.
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  Speaker 1: So I would certainly say hit that. Like if you're
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  Speaker 1: just joining us or filing in late. We appreciate you
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  Speaker 1: being here, but it helps us out. We'll keep this up. Title,
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  Speaker 1: I'll kick it to you. It's kind of what Hoop said,
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  Speaker 1: And I've got a Nuno reverse coming up on the
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  Speaker 1: second game when we get there, and the guy I
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  Speaker 1: pulled out was Caleb Williams. I was liking a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of Romo Donze, keenan All and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 1: just as the way to get off the you know
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  Speaker 1: Bears D and Swift. I did a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a flip here, so I'll kick it to you on
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  Speaker 1: this one. I took that out because I remembered what
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  Speaker 1: I said last week and all these quote unquote air
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  Speaker 1: yards were uncatchable from Caleb Williams. Two could be a bit,
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  Speaker 1: I know there's some weather. Could be a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a you know, ground and pound type of game. I
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  Speaker 1: do like the Swift Bear stuff. But the flip that
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  Speaker 1: I did was I actually went to Remandre and paid
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  Speaker 1: in a lot people don't know like them been following.
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  Speaker 1: He's like a guy that just nobody ever wants to
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  Speaker 1: talk about but keeps crushing it. And on a slate
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  Speaker 1: like this, it's kind of a double a double flip
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  Speaker 1: because it's one hundred bucks less than Swift on the
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  Speaker 1: opposite side, and then the Patriots D much cheaper. They
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  Speaker 1: are still a popular cheap D. But I don't think
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  Speaker 1: anyone's playing them and pairing them with or not many,
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  Speaker 1: I should say, pairing them with Romandre. And if you
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  Speaker 1: go back to the first look show Degenerate seventy five
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  Speaker 1: and myself, I took some notes and the very first
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: one that I had circled was Pats plus six and
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: a half on this late I actually think it's a
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: pretty good spot. I think the weather might even help
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: them if that's the case, And so I like Romandre
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: Patriots if not. It's what Hoop said, it's the you know,
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: secondary stacks with Swift and this d it's Swift with Hunter,
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: Henry Mini stacks, things like that, but nothing crazy beyond
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: that title. What do you got?
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: I got pretty much the same as Hoop, But I
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: don't hate that because, you know, like in chalkier teams
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: like Romandre is a pivot of the pivot of the
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: pivot in that range one hundred more Swift, Who's more popular?
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: James Connor's one hundred more and more popular? Aaron Jones
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: is three hundred more. One of the more popular running
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: that plays on the slates. Kareem Hunt's probably even more popular,
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: maybe Nause He's even more popular.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Eckler will be for cheaper.
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: Like he's in a range that's popular but not getting
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: played at all. And yeah, shout out DJM. Guys absolutely
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: crushed it on the first look last week, Jen won
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: all the cheese. I mean, I don't know if I
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: get there myself, but it makes a lot of sense.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: Both defenses will get ownership. Swift will get some. He's
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: had eighteen touches in the last six games. The rochewan
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: at the goal line is a little worrisome, but Swift
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: can get There's so many ways out of the backfield.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: Swift bears d makes sense of the pairing. You flip
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: it very little ownership. Again, I probably won't do it,
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: but I definitely get it. Stevenson can also catch some
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: passes out of the backfield. I'm not going kill Williams stuff.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Really.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: I totally agreement with who punter.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: Henry would be the last someone mentioned it up here,
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: but he has been Drake May's favorite target, which makes
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: sense for Ricky quarterback security blanket in the middle of
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: the field.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: So that's how I see it.
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: Not much interest in the first one I forgot.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: I got some of these from the Mayo show. He
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: built this and he loved it. For some reason, and
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: sometimes he gets it right with that, so maybe it
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: will be may Douglas Henry with I think we use
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: swift on.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: The run back.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but if those get there, big time
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: giveaway for shipping nation, because it's certainly not something I'm
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: high on. But I'm not building those lineups and not
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: putting them on something. I'm always the fomo king Go ahead, hoop,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: I see over there.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's just laughing. I was just laughing at the
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Millie Maker today. Yeah, I'm not going there, but it's
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: it's funny. I like seeing that sort of stuff in
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: the chat.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Jake knows people hate this one, but I came up
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: the Gus bus is it's the Chew Chew train man,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: the Chewba Hubbard train. It just keeps rolling. And that
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: man got paid now too Canadian as well, by the way,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: So congrats to Chuba Hubbard. Love to see that, I
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: will say. And the Stone's going away in a second.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: But just to note, definitely the highest optimal defense I've
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: ever seen us have ever on the stone. And even
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: though they're getting like twenty five percent, it's like, this
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: is what I always talk about. You don't read negative leverage.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: It's just like, oh it's negative, so I can't play it.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: It's it's that close to being positive leverage. Shit in
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: this stuff, obviously in higher stakes gets a little bit
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: trickier because it will go up. Did you have something
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: to add on that one?
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Just one thing I did want to add on that, Like,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: if you're using an optimizer, basically any optimizer you're using,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: obviously we recommend that, use the ship demiser, But if
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: you don't look at the defense, it's just going to
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: jam the Bears. Like all your teams are going to
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: have the Bears defense. So one thing I definitely like
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: going doing today is going to some of these other
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: high end defenses and force them in a little bit, because, yeah,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: I mean the Bears like great, the price is great,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: the matchup's great, but you know what are the odds
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: they're inoptimal? I mean we're showing what like twenty one percent,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: so eighty percent of the time someone else is going
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: to be optimal. So if you don't force in other defenses,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: you're just going to be fully loaded on the on
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: the Bears deep today.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the chat wants to know. Let me let me
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: have a quick look at this oh man hoop is
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: going to be excited. Yes, yess whose birthday it is today?
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Dunt kincaid, it is a right end.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I'll give it away so we can keep the show
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: a moment. It is zach ertz is birthday.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Very excited about that. Very Actually, well do.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: You think zach Ertz is turning? Oh? Title got it
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: on the head right away.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: For some reason, in the back of my head, I
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: feel like I looked at his age on one of
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: these shows.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I said he was old and dusty and it only.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Said thirty three, And I was like, what.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it says birthday.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: He's got the.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Speed for sure. That's the one saying. There we go,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: found a quick little reference. Maybe you have to remind
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: me to bring this up. Let's keep a moving title.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Let's go to the next one. I'll kick it off
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: because I said, oh, no, reverse, I made fun of
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: this guy. Luckily, I've never been down the you know,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: complete rabbit hole of breaking this down to Never Alan.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I've been O Never my homes we're sticking with. We'll
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: get there later. But I was saying, like, who do
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: you put Alan with? It's so hard to figure out.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I said, did you have mac Hollins and Quintin Morris
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: last week, like it's just a pain, right, But again
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: we'll wait on the Amari Cooper news. But kind of
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: after that, it's like, if you're not playing James Cook
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: or don't care about him at seven k and maybe
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: you should. I'm just saying, if you don't Allen, Shakir
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: mac Collins, Kinkaid. And the most interesting thing title to
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: me on this game is aDNA Mitchell super Chalk, especially
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: the higher stakes you go. He's just gonna get ramped
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: up in ownership at thirty four. Maccollins thirty three with
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: no ownership on the opposite side. Not quite a two
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: v two switcheroo or swapero whatever people want to call
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: it that I made up. But Shakir aDNA Mitchell will
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: be much more popular than Downs, even though Downs is
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: getting ownerships too. Downs and mac Hollins, it's almost the
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: same price. Yeah, yeah, almost got him on the jum Free. No,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: that guy's dead too. Now you put that one man,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: He's over it. But go ahead title this game. I'm
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: just thinking some thoughts out loud real quick on it.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: But my uno reverse is on Josh Allen and I
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: made room for him by getting rid of Caleb Williams,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: so it feels like a good trade.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that for sure. I don't know
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: how much interest I have in both quarterbacks. But the
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: thing is is pass catchers on both sides will be popular.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Like the cold side, Josh Bowens is gonna be one
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: of the most popular receivers on the slate. Very fair price, No,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Michael Pittman has that great rapport with Joe Flacco.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: It all adds up.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: And then you look, if you guys had the stone up,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: you guys hit the like button.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: You'll see Bill's defense.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Has not been very great as well s except both
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: the run and the pass. Down's a great looks great
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: at that price. And Donnie Mitchell, We've talked about him
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: a lot so far. There just isn't great value. Of course,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: without Michael Pittman, Mitchell becomes or gets a big role
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: on a slate without a lot of value wide receiver,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: he's gonna be played. Pierce is the clear leverage play
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: if you want from like the receiver standpoint, But Jonathan
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Taylor just makes the most sense if you want to
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: leverage all of them. How do those guys fail JT
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: gets there on the ground, he's minus one sixty to score.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: He's also in a range that is gonna he'll have
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: to be not low owned by any means. But if
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: you go one hundred less or I was looking at
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Fanda right there. If you go one hundred more's Breeze Hall,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: I think he'll be more popular. I think Bijon will
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: be more popular at seven to seven, and then Kamara
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: is a little more expensive as well.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Who's going to get ownership?
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: I think if you go to the opposite side of
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: the game, we're assuming Amari Cooper's out, Shakiir is gonna
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: get ownership on both sides. Matt Collins, I do like
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: that pivot from a Donnie Mitchell for sure, thirty three
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: hundred direct pivot. Kinkaide might get a little little bit,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: but James Cook I don't think is getting played much either.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: In that same JT range. People want to go to
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: other ones when spending up. There's clear, clear leverage plays
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: off of these receivers at running backs. Again, you do
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: have to spend for it. But looking at the stone,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: neither of these teams are good really against the pass
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: or the run. So I'll definitely be playing some downs
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: some Mitchell Shakiir Hollins. But I'm looking at the running
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: backs as leverage because man two running ba. If Cooks
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: get too on the ground, or if JT gets too
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: on the ground, that is how these Chalky receivers can bust.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: It's a very easy It just makes a lot of
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: sense to me when you're looking ownership and game theory.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: So that's what I'll be hoping.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the call. I'm gonna kick it to
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Hoop in a second. But if if this Carolina team
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: keeps going up over in Germany, we might have to
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: see Daniel Jones hit the bench. It's Drew Lock's birthday too,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: maybe he can get in the game and get into
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: some action. I was looking at the old birthday chart,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: but the chat's talking all about this stuff. Hoop. So
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: here's one we saw it with Derek Henry get his
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: hundredths right, there's Jonathan Taylor needs one for fifty. I think,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: who before I kick it to you, Like, it's a
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: game for me of what ifs, because what if Jonathan
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Taylor gets one touchdown? Is that enough to pay off
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: seventy five hundred? Yes, I'll have some yards all that
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: and make some leverage there. I get it, and I'm
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: gonna play some. But that's a what if everyone telling me, oh,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: just play Alec Pierce instead of a don A Mitchell.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: You this one's gonna happen with Alec Pierce, even if
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: he has the game you're talking about, it's gonna be
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: a very small subset of lineups and the lotteries to
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: get there. It's almost like the Tylan Tylan Wallace stuff
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: the other night. Eight people the you know, the first
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: thirty lineups had him. After that he wasn't needed. Even
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: at twenty one points he's needed, but it's because no,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna play him enough. You're gonna talk about it.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna be about it in your lineups. And
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: same with other people. So even though if Pierce gets there,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: it may not matter. And also with Mitchell, especially the
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: higher stake, smaller field stuff, you you also can get
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: away with eight points probably or something like that. It's
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: got to keep that in mind as well. Hope you
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: got other thoughts on this game, you know, Alan, all
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: that stuff, bring it all, bring it all to the table.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I guess first off, you guys will die
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: because this is hilarious. I just reran my teams. I
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: just made a minor adjustment. I actually I let in
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: more like Donnie Mitchell into my teams and then I
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: was like, man, I went to the bottom, was like,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I got another wide receiver in here, and I literally
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: just ran it. After we've we did the little Jordan
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Humphrey comment, like, sure as ship. The guy that was
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: added in was little Jordan Humpy and you guys would
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: be proud, all right, you guys would be proud because
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I immediately went and unclicked his name.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: He's not lots of attraction. Who they know who's picking
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: the button and they brought him to you, so yes.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: And but now his ass is gone and he's probably
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: gonna score a touchdowns today. This game I think is
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: very interesting. Uh I almost went with it in my
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: main main team like a Josh Allen's deck. You know,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: full disclosure, I did not go that route, but uh
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I like it a lot. Like we know Donnie Mitchell
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: is gonna be popular, We know Josh Downs is going
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: to be popular. But man, if those guys are gonna
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: do well like Josh Allen, to me, has to do
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: something on the other side if they have these big,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: huge games like downs and Mitchell like, we need something
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: from the Bills, and you know, more times than not,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: the Bills offense gets the job done. So I'm very
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: interested in the Josh Allen stuff. It's cheaper than normal
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: with with Noah Maari Cooper. Now, i mean shakers up
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: there a little bit at six k on DK, but
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: the FanDuel probacely I believe is six k as well,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: which is you know, much much cheaper. Dalton Kinkaid will
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: get a nice boost. I think it was like ten
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: targets or something last week, and you know, I've been
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: playing them obviously all season long. Hasn't worked out great,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: but you know, ten targets, yeah, ten targets. Again, he
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: hasn't had the explosive game. I'm hoping it's today because
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna play a lot of his ass. So I'm
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: definitely in on Kim Kaid. Matt Collins at thirty three,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: great pivot off Mitchell, like you talked about even you know,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel another cheap option at thirty three. I'm not
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: as interested in the running backs in this game. Like
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I get the Jonathan Taylor stuff, but it's tough, man,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: if you're gonna play Alvin Kamara at a high rate,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: if you're playing Breise Hall at a high rate, if
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: you're playing Bijon who's now up there at seven to seven, like,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: you just can't play all these guys. And I think
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I like everyone else a little bit better than Jonathan Taylor,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: and I did find it's a little easier to play
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: them on FanDuel, so maybe I play them on FanDuel
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: not on DK. Kind Of the same thing with James Cook.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: It's hard to get him in as well. I mean,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: he's got a legit price take. So I'm gonna be
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: banking on all the passing stuff here, Josh Allen to
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: those guys, all the pass catchers. I'm not playing Flacco,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: but definitely we'll have downs Mitchell and probably a little
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: bit of Pierce. But I think this is a very
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: appealing game, a lot of different ways you can go.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: The overstack definitely in play here as well, So very
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: appealing game.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I like the overstack. I like some of the even
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: the Flacco side. And that's the other thing I thought
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: about too, When you ring Flacko into it, that's what
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: can end up pushing Josh Allen, Like Josh Allen is
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: going to be Flacco someday right where he's coming back
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: for teams and playing the standard quarterback role and at
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: whatever age and just doing his thing. But I said this,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: this was the Euno reverse. It's not the same to me.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: And this is the other thing. Like, you know, I
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: want to bring up a couple more quick things and
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: then we'll move on from this game. But you know,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: when people are mixing in everyone and my boy Tom Brady,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm always sharp. I'm mixing in all that stuff.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. And I'm saying I know this
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: will go against my never Mahomes sing, but it's not
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: the case. Like Josh Allen puts up twenty five plus
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: thirty plus all the time on a large scale, He's
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: done it twenty five plus a ton. Even if you
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: don't want to give me the thirty number. Patrick Mahmes
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: literally just broke twenty for the first time this season
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: in DraftKings points. It's not the same. Everyone will say, oh,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: but today you can just play Mahomes and commit to
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Hopkins and Kelsey. You can do that, and if you
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: are going to go that route, that is what I
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: would do. But that's kind of the breakdown is I
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: also don't see him ever having the big explosion game.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: There's defenses to deal with all this other stuff. With
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen today, I'm committing it's Kinkaid, it's Shakir, and
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: it's a little bit of mac Collins, like that's where
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I'm at, and you put them with two guys and
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: you move on that. That's really how I'm playing him.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: That's the commitment. But if he breaks it, he can
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: have thirty plus and be needed on a ten game slate.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: And so that's why I feel like that with that game,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know totally got anything else you want to
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: add with that one. If we can go to the
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: next game, which is the Vikings, jaggs a lot of
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: steam here as well. I think a lot of people
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: targeting this one.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: The last thing to mention, I do like the kin
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Kid stuff a good bit because he also feels like
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: leverage off of Shakir if MATC. Collins does do anything.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: So I think it's clear that all the receivers are
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: good plays. That's why they're coming their ownership. But Kinkaid,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: James Cook JT feels like the best leverage if you
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: think that the chalkbus in that game. So the next game,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: wanted to point out one weather thing Roth was talking about.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: It says, potential for some rain here. That's Jacksonville, that's
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Florida's so no surprise, ten to fifteen wins, sometimes twenty.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: It's yellow, so I'm not worried about it. But if
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: you see rain, people want to know a possibility of
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: that really clear in this game. For me, though, the
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Jag stink Mac Jones behind center. I'm not punting Mac Jones.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: That salary is a little tight today. I still want
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: points from my quarterback. I do not want to play
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Mac Jones on a ten games slate, So no JAG's
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: easy Viking side. Everyone's going Aaron Jones. You can go
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Aaron Jones AND's fend up for Vikings defense if you
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: want to get a little different that way, who will
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: be low owned? But of course you guys know what
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: I'm doing. It's the Jets baby, too low owned, too
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: good defense, too bad leverage off of Aaron Jones. Throw
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Sam Donald in there if you want. I don't love
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: love Sam Sam Donald's stuff because I don't know if
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Mac Jones can push him enough if I play Donald, like,
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: do I just want Donald Jefferson?
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Maybe you can help me with that a little tambo.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: My favorite way though, either Aaron Jones Vikings d or
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: just play Jefferson leverage off of Jones called the Day
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: in that game?
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Are you playing any Donald?
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm against your boy today.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: Just is that's not a good island to be on.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Not usually it isn't, but I feel like it has
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: been all season. I feel like it's in justin the d.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I do worry about the Jones thing. But one thing
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I like here actually quite a bit, as you know,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: as good as the leverage would be on Jefferson, it's
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: again it's tough to get to these high priced wide
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: receivers on this slate, so that makes you unique if
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: you can do it. But I'm still looking at the
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: overall and the upside and the projection, the ownership, more
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: factors that I'm bringing in. And the guy that stood
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: out for me was actually one of his other dudes there,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Jordan Adison. I like him fifty three hundred for him,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: and the thing about him is I think if he goes,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: he goes, and so it's two touchdowns. The defense is
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: on Jefferson, he ends up being open. That's where you
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: could just play Donald with Addison. Another different way to
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: play Aaron Jones. You mentioned one I love is just
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: paying up for the Vikings d It could just be
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: a smash, especially in higher stakes. I like that when
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: everyone's going the you know, the Bears and below, you
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: can go right up to the Vikings, but they're playing
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Aaron Jones. So it's like another thing that would make
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: sense going against Mac Jones if they are getting to
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: that cheaper quarterback there. So like that you could stack
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: in Jones, though with Donald right, you could play Donald
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Jones Addison don't even need to run it back on
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: the jag side, just run that out there. So I
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: think that's interesting. Mac Jones, I guess you know. You
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: play Mac Jones, it's gonna be for me with more
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: of a Parker Washington Ingram run it back with Aaron Jones.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: It's another way to flip the Aaron Jones builds and
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: play them differently. I'll have a little bit of that,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: but not really in my mains or any big, big,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: high dollar buy ins for me. Who kick it to
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: you on this game? Your thoughts on Vikings Jags.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we know Aaron Jones is going to
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: be popular. I mean he's the one running back. I
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: think you look at the prices and he could probably
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: be like a thousand dollars more at you know, sixty
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: seven hundreds too cheap. But yeah, I'm in on the
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: darn Old Jefferson stuff for sure. There's just at the
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: wide receiver position. I think we just know what everyone's doing.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: They're going to you know, the mid tier, the downs
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: and the DeAndre Hopkins, and I think Jefferson has a
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: chance to get squeezed. I just did want to pull.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Up what we have in terms of ownerships, all right,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: he's barely getting owned.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think it could be the less. I
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: think we could be like a five percent justin Jefferson,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Like if you're playing one point fifty, like even if
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: you don't like him, play eight percent and you're not
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: sacrificing much and you're over the field. So I just
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: have to be on Jefferson when he comes in that low.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: And I get your point though, I mean he hasn't
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: had the explosive game this season where you've needed him
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: for sure, and pricing is a little bit tough, so
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I get it. But man, if I'm thinking Jefferson's coming
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: in at five percent, like I have to be on him,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: have to be on him, and I'm playing Darnold, so
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: it just makes sense. I like the Addison call. And
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: then I'm in on Hockinson, Like, you know, forty seven
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: hundred pretty cheap. I mean, tight end is pretty loaded today,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: but he's going to have a game at some point
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: where we're looking back and like, man, why did no
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: one play Hockinson? Like he just went off at two percent?
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: So I'm in on him too. So I'm in on
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: the entire Vikings offense. I like the call on the defense.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: That's one of these defenses I talked about. People aren't
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: going to be paying up at defense. I'm forcing in
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: some defensive payoffs today and the Viking is a very
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: good one and I'll be fading everything on the Jagglayer side.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you could see the Stone right now, what
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: are we at right now? Two hundred and thirty likes
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: something like that, So I got one hundred and seventy
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: to go. But the Stone, you might have interest in
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: this game, and it's a couple pretty interesting spots. And
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: then I guess the last thing I'll say is that
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: it's not about Jefferson not being able to We obviously
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: know he's the number one ultimate you know, next to
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Jamar Chase game the other day, that's who you expected
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: out of that's the guy that can do it. I
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: think it's more the latter of what you said, who
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: where it's like the pricing is, it's just what it
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: does to your lineup. To me, everyone I looked at
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: it either put me in the exact same bracket as
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: sort of what everything else looked like, and I couldn't
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: really separate it that way. The one thing I will say, though,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: is what do we see last week? Was what was
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the winning lineup? Again? Last week? Who was in it? Geno?
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Sorry Geno, JSN. That's remember it was like, oh, I
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: have all the chalk got there. It was like, now
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Gino five percent, JSN five percent. Like that's how you
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: see these things happen, and you're like, oh, all I
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: had to do was play darl and Jefferson. And that's
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: the other thing too, where somebody said this no overexposed
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: it was the same guy I'm looking for moon rakers here.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: The comment.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: For a lot of these for a lot of these
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: people that do this shit in this industry, if they
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: see someone six percent like the chalk out there, if
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: it's like a non like one percent play, it's it's
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: considered chalk. Like these people just kill me when they
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: talk about chalk. It's so annoying, man, so annoying.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's all about the why I originally
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: coined it's not who you play, it's how you play.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, the chalk is the chalk for a reason.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: You're always like if a guy's five percent, like these
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: guys that talk about like the chalk get gets there again.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: In their eyes though, anything above two percent is considered chalk,
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: which is just foolish and just not the case at all.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: And it's super fucking annoying to listen to that shit.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: One hundred percent and moon Rakers, I don't disagree with you.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Typically I'm saying, like, the idea of what you're saying
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: isn't wrong. I get it because he's not gonna you know,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: he's usually not anybody gonna rush a bunch of touchdowns
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: in or do anything like that. It's actually more of
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: what the other guys can do with him. Jefferson can
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: go off just him and him, and he could throw
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: a touchdown to like Josh Oliver or something, and you
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: still get that touchdown for Sam Darnald, but you weren't
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: getting to Oliver, nor did you need him. Same thing
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: with Addison. He could throw two to Addison, you get
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: just those two. Yes, I get why you would typically
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: want to play him with two. That's like for showdown
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: or something. I would for sure force it. I think
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: it's gone a lot away from that in the main
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: slits where you don't necessarily need to have it. And
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: then Jake always loved the Jake takes. This is what
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, though it's just not true. That's
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: what everybody says, and it is what it feels like.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: It is what it feels like to you and many others.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: But you're seeing Donald at ten percent or less, you're
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: seeing Jefferson at five percent, you're seeing Addison at five
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: or less, you're seeing Hawkinson at two or less. Nobody's
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: getting to the dudes he will actually throw to. And really,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: on the other side, nobody's playing Ingram Parker Washington Brian
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Thomas if he's in all this stuff. So, actually, nobody's
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: playing this game, even though the everybody says they are.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Everybody's playing Aaron Jones. Bottom line. That's it. That's the number.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: So and yet now, now, okay, at least he gave
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: me the JK on that one. The mo Aley Cox,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: You go ahead. I don't feel as bad if I
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: miss that one. I'm sure you can get a touchdown
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: bet the anytime. But yeah, if it is a Naylor day,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: you know, put a nail in my coffin on that one.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Dude, I could have served that one up. I was.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I was just waiting for that.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: You know that those ones don't get past me. Those
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: are two easies. Anything else boys on this no more.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: I think who mentioned Hockinson.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: He played forty five percent of snaps last week, Like,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: if that gets a sixty five seventy, we're showing one
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: to two percent. Like I guess, I'm I'm probably gonna
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: play a Darnald jeff I'm playing Jefferson. I'll probably throw Donald.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: I liked Addison. You talked a little more into it,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Hockinson or Addison.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Like that, I'm playing noble.
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: If you're you're not playing Jefferson, that's that's fair.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you're playing again, A lot of I
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: guess a lot of this stuff's much easier if you're
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: in an optimizer building one hundred and fifty teams. So
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I guess I'm speaking in regards to that way of
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: building teams. Like if I'm handbuilding, I get it, it's
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: hard to get to Jefferson. But if you are playing Donald,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: to kind of go back a little bit, like I
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: think you have to play Addison, you have to play Hawkinson,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: especially if you have multiple teams. It just it makes sense, man,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: it just makes sense if you're not playing Donald. But bick,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I'm han bilding.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I got Bill for me, But I like Donald. If
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: you're not playing Donald, I'm not trying to go And
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: you know, speaking of both sides here, I will say
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: this though title is obviously there's mass leverage to going
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: to Hawkinson only filling up your onesie position and not
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: playing Jones like that, you have to play a tight end.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: If you don't feel comfortable with the Chalk Ones or
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: the San Francisco Tampa Bay Ones later on or whatever
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: else it might be. The Hunter Henry's all this stuff. Then,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I if you just want to play Hawkinson and call
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: that your leverage play, I hope he has that, you know,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: eight for one hundred and ten in one game that
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily drag Darnald along. I think that's great actually,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: and I think it's fine. Don't need to go say, oh,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: if I'm playing him, I need a run back. You
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: could just play him and get away with it, so
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: handbuilding that out. I certain think that would be a
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: possibility as well.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh no, you can play Jay Jefferson naked
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: like he goes for one point fifty and two and
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: that's all you need.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: You can leverage off the Jones. There's a lot of
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: ways you can go in this game.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Jefferson can also do the old like twelve one, seventy
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: and zero and have a day and just catch a
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: bunch of balls and crush at that. And so that
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: that's actually another note that you brought up. But it's
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: likely we're getting a gritty in there for sure, real
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: quick though too. And hoop, I'll let you take away
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: the next game after this one. It's gonna be Broncos
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Chiefs get to never mahomes here. But I just want
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: to say too, Like, I guess I'm curious. I love
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: getting other DFS players thoughts. We're lucky to have the
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: team that we have around us and the members and everything.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: We're always talking strategy and stuff. I don't know that
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: if there's a right or wrong for this, I actually
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: don't think there is. But I guess my mind doesn't
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: work the way you said, even though it's true and factual,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: it doesn't work that way where I get like, if
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Jefferson's five percent and you have eight, you have leverage.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Let's say he comes in at four, you still have
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: double the field. At least you got some et cetera.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I guess though, if I'm you know, doing that for
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: an eighty what is the eighty nine hundred dollars eighty
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: eight hundred dollars guy, I'm looking for, like if he
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: breaks the slate, how much I can dominate the field
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: with such a big boy move on a guy like that?
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: So it's almost like I kind of want to commit
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: more to twenty percent. Again, I don't think it's right
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: or wrong. My thought process on that is kind of
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: different than yours.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the eight, So I guess the way I
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: prefaced it which I don't know if you heard this point.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I was saying, even if you don't like him and
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: you're building one fifty, like at the bare minimum, just
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: play him like six seven, eight percent, just to get
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: him in the mix. Now, you still have to get
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: everything else right, like the rest of your shit needs
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: to work. But if you do like him, like I do,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: and like title does, I'm going to be at a
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: at a higher number where it's more likely it pays
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: off if it is a Jefferson type day. So the
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: eight percent comment was more to the fact that if
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: you don't love him, you're building one hundred and fifty
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: is clearly the one wide receiver. There's not many on
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: the slate that could just like nuke it for forty.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that breakdown, and I'll like you move
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: to the next game on it because I thought it made
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: perfect sense. It's all how you you started with it, right, right.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: If you don't like him, that makes perfect sense. Or
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: if your only playing ten percent Arnald, maybe he's in
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of those lineups that still makes
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: toward or something, so that would make more sense. And yeah, Mark,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: you'd be looking for it, buddy. I think it's one
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: for eighty seven. Is that that's worked out? So we
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: got a real sample on that one, my friend, but
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: always good fun. Like I said, it is what it is.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Today would be a day. I'm never playing him, as
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I stick by my word. It's not just a bit.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I have my reasons. But if you were playing am
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: I get why today would be the day for some people.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: And it's not like the ownership's huge, right, it's only
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: really on Hopkins. It's almost the same thing we just
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: talked about Hoop with the Aaron Jones stuff. Oh everyone's
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: on this. I mean you know this. No one's playing
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: a home still, no one's playing Kelsey everyone. You know,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: people are playing Hopkins. We'll see if it even gets
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: as high as people think. But I recommend you know
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: that you can playim as a one off. But I
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: just I'm not going there again. But I get it,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: So go ahead, who ball, Let you take this one away.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Disagreed on the Jefferson stuff, and we're gonna disagree on
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: this one, and I'm gonna try to convince you. I
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: usually don't try to convince you. I know it's not
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: gonna work. Like you're very hard headed. It's not gonna
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: fucking work. And me tried to convince you, but okay,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: but but but this isn't Mahomes seventy five hundred, Rashid
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Rice seventy two hundred, Travis Kelcey eight k. Right, it's
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Mahomes sixty six. It's Hopkins fifty three hundred, it's Travis
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Kelcey six k, Noah Gray two point nine worthy unowned.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: So and we're still getting low ownership. It's not like
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: this is a guy that's going to come in at
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: very high ownership. So because of the price ownership outside
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: of Hopkins, Like, I'm in on Mahomes, and it's been
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: a while. I've been with you for the most part,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think I've played Mahomes outside of showdown or
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: small slates this year.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: That's why you had a chance to make money and
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: have made some money. Like it's just dependent on that.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: I think it could be a day where at quarterback
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: twenty five to twenty six could win the position. Like
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: you know, that's the sort of slate that you need.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: And I'm I'm gonna I'm playing some Mahomes sixty six.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Hopkins obviously is going to be popular. Kelsey not so much.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, ownership at tight end, i'd assume gets spread out.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: There's so many good guys there, you know Worthy should
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: get no ownership. I guess I really don't actually love
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Worthy all that much. At sixty one, He's got to
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: beat a lot of good guys there, and it's probably
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: more than just one big play, but more because of
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: the price tag and matchup. I think the Broncos can
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: can push it a little bit. I mean, Courtland Sutton's
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: been good, He's cheap. I guess it's kind of tough
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: to play anyone outside of him, But like bo Nix
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: is showing the ability to push the pace a little
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: bit and make these games competitive. So I am in
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: on the Mahome stuff, you know, Hopkins Kelsey. I don't
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: even mind, like a double stack like Mahomes Hopkins Kelsey
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: with Sutton on the other side, I'm in on it.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: You don't have to comment. I'm sure you're here, definitely.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you're remaining out. I'm sure you're remaining out, remaining.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Out because your statement was if I feel like it's
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: a twenty five, twenty six point type of day, you know,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: in the lad I'm.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Saying that like it could be.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying I think you're right, but Tam was
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: gonna say why.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I think you're right too, And I'm gonna make a
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: second point where I'll back you a little bit. But
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: in this last two regular seasons, Mahomes has only broke
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: twenty DK points four times, and three of them were
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: less than twenty five. Two of them were on twenty
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: on the button. So this guy does not put up
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: twenty five or twenty six. What's going to happen and
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: convince people for future losses is it's going to be
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: like Mahomes and Hopkins done. No Denver guy, no double stack.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: That just allows a balance build with some of the
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: other chalk hitting in a high stakes tournament like the
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: forty four to forty four Mega, and people are like, oh, Tambo,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Mahomes smashes like, yeah, that's not what happens. So we'll
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: see keep doing keep doing that if you're doing it
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: other people out there who has not been along for
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: the ride very often, So I get it, but.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: I've been on the right side. I don't think I've
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: clicked the name again outside of the smaller slates or
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: showdown at all. I just I think this is this
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: is the time, man, this is the time.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Another another UNO reverse title as I kick it to
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: you here because I'll also add this to the mix.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: What will I never like and just you know, not
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: shit on but just I'm playing DFS it's daily as
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: we all do them saying but like whatever happens is
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: a guy can slip ball whatever never in a matchup stuff,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: but certain has shut down every dude. And I actually
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: think that if Hopkins actually comes in it like twenty
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: three percent, that is extremely over owned on this late
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: just because he's fifty three hundred really underpriced because it's
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: priced based on what he just did. But what he
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: did last week has nothing to do with what he's
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: about to do or not do this week. So I
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: mean denverde is even in play for me down here
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: as a pivot off like the Patriots or or something
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: like that. But not because I'm against Mahomes. Just I
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: think it's possible they just it's a division game too, right,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: like go ahead, I'll let you take away all those thoughts.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: But I certainly think there's opportunities here for for it
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: just to fail altogether.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: If you think that, I think Kelsey's probably the nuts then,
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's not like they're not going to move
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: the ball. The last two games sixteen targets and twelve
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: targets for Kelsey. Again, the onesie position. Spending up Honestly,
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: it's kind of hard to spend up. Feels like if
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: d Hot gets shut down, if it has to be Kelsey,
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: I can't get so worthy that man can't even stay
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: and bounce on a wide open touchdown, so so so
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: so tilting that.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, but I mean that's that's how you win.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: All the cheezs. Tambo don't play much like he has
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: to be played.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: The pricing on both sites is too good coming off
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: a monster game wide receiver one with mahomes like he's
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: getting all the hype in the world. So it's the
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: perfect spot to fade on a ten game mainslate. If
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: that's how you feel for him.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: He's a fine one off. Just not to cut off.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: So just to clarify, like, yeah, I mentioned if I'm
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: playing a one off, it's him or Kelsey. Kelsey fills
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: up the onesie position or I should say Hunt. Even
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't mention that. I was gonna let you talk
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: about the games first, but yeah, there's other guys that
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: can go to in this game, but it's one offs
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: for me. No bon Nick Stacks, no Mahomes Stacks.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: I'm with you, it's one of us for me, and
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: it's really just Hopkins Kelsey. Of course in one fifty,
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: I'll play some Hunts. But the thing is I talked
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: about that with Hunt, Swift, Connor, Aaron Jones, like all
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: three of them. More you mentioned Rimandre Stevenson too. He'll
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: probably be lowering, Like it's just such a strong range.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: We just got news we're not at the game yet.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: CMC is a full go eight k if I'm getting
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: CMC is a full go like I love Dejeon today.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Who'll get too so annoying that news broke. By the way,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: I just signed because I was gonna be way over
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: on him because I figured that was the case. Super
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: annoying that they broke that.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because this levered off some pretty stuff we'll get to,
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: but I guess all the stories is running back solo
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: and again I mentioned JT and James Cook earlier. They're
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: gonna be like two to three percent because the leverage.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: I just yeah, running back is definitely great. The more
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: I talk, the more. I probably want three running backs.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: But again you kind of fall into similar bills. But
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: I long story short, like I've usually hand built five
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: main teams one fifty stuff. I won't be playing hunt
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: because I prefer the other ones. Kelsey d hot one offs,
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: move on, yeah.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: And Scary. I'm just appreciate because I appreciate you always
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: answer these ones when you put them up. Sometimes I'm
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: hard on you. But everybody send me questions from my
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: passion project, I appreciate. I read them all. I wasn't
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: responding one by one. They were helped with what I'm
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: working on right now, but you sent me one talking
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: about some of these plays. This is the prime example,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: my friend, like looking for tree. Even if Trumpman scores
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: a touchdown, probably not anywhere near the lineup. Bet him
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: anytime touchdown. Build your lineups differently and get on some
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: of the better options, and not be afraid to find
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: some just good plays as opposed to trying to make
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: a diamond in the rough like Troutman work. If he
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: scores a touchdown, I think he just did. Actually, on
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: National tight End Day, there was like twenty tight ends
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: that scored way more than him on that slate. As well,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: So different slate altogether, but just a little note there.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: So let's move on, hoop, I'll I'll kick it back
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: to you on this next one. Falcons Saints, and we
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: just talked a little bit about the you know, Bijeon
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Kamara stuff. There's Taysom Hill, you like, some some Mooney
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: and some Londons and those guys. What are you doing
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: here with this one in the Dome in New Orleans.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've kind of, I don't know, maybe reversed my
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: stance a little bit on like the Mooney stuff. I mean,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: I like Mooney. We've talked about him a lot on
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: the show. We've been ahead of the curve on him.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: But man, it is tough to pay the sixty five
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: for when you go in there and start building some teams.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're sacrificing some exposure to really solid
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: running back. So I like the Falcon stuff. I think
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: more on FanDuel and it's going to be equally low
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: owned over there, like with with Kirk. Kirk cousin will
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: get little more ownership on Fandal, but it is tough.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: So I've scaled back my like Mooney stuff on DK.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: I still have Bijeon, I still have Drake London. I
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: do like Pitts quite a bit, to be honest with you, again,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: these tight ends are looking very nice today. I do
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: think it's a lot of people are gonna ask is
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: it a two tight end day? It could be, and
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: I'll have a lot of two tight end sort of
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: teams and pits. At forty eight hundred, I think is
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: a phenomenal play. So I like stacking the falcons more
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: on FanDuel. I'm DK. I mean, I'm honestly just having
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: trouble getting there financially, It's difficult to get these these
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: teams in there. Kirk Cousins at sixty seven on DK
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: is like seventy four or seventy five on FanDuel. Kind
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: of tough again on DK, But I like the individual
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: pieces bijon, Drake London and Pitts. On the Saint side,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Taysom Kamara, I think both solid options. Taysom on DK, FanDuel,
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: he's up to like sixty three hundred not as appealing.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: And man, this wide receiver group for for the Saints,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: oh my, like oh my, And that's just a reason
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: to be on Kamara and and Tasom and not necessarily
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: anything else on the same side. So yeah, it's kind
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: of where I'm at this.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: One, Okay. Yeah, and just to kick it to you
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: title before I do, but like, yeah, not coming out.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: You just say, like that's you missed the boat that
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: was on National Titans Day. It still wasn't even needed
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: that day. You didn't even need that value. And then
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: also he in like twenty five games. I just looked
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: it up. He's never he's broke seven one time it was,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: and it was nine before that, it was seven or
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: less every single game. It's just I'm just trying to
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: point out, like you can you can find other options,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: tons of ways to still fit those running backs with
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: other value plays that are in better spots based on injuries,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: different factors like that, or you just spend a little
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: bit more. But there's there's a lot of good options
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: and guys that can score two touchdowns at the tight
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: end position. Title. Kick it to you on this game Atlanta,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: New Orleans.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Kamara is obviously the clear play.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Everyone's gonna go there if you just look at how
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: beat up they are, Like when Mason Tipton's your one
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: and Scantling's your two, you know, that they want to
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: run the ball or get it to Kamara.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: As much as possible.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Taysom makes sense as leverage off of Kamara in the
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: aspect of if Kamara bus Taysom might rush into or
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: like Derek Carr, get to Tipton or Scantling.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: But I'm not going to take that approach.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: I prefer to Taysom getting that way, and again he's
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: gonna get some ownership, but not even close to where
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Kamara goes.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: So just Taysom and Kamara that side.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: Falconside's really tough for me because man, like we talked
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: about Little Cash Show week one, I rode off Cousins
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: too early. He's looked great sense and look at the
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: ownership on the stone like it is so so low. Yeah,
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: we have Drake at fifteen moon he had eight. I
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: wouldn't even be surprised if we're a little hot on them.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's no March marsh On Latimore, he got traded.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: They're in a dome. This defense isn't good if you
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: look at the stone or the stone the offense has
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: been great for the Falcon kind of reminds me. I
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: think it was two weeks ago the Buccaneers might have
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: been against the same Saints team or like people just
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: hate that have not played Baker as much as they
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: should and they just kept nuking. The Falcons are gonna
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: move the ball. I feel very confident that my favorite
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: play for sure is Bijon the last three weeks, finally
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: unload him twenty four to twenty twenty six touches seven
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: to seven, five targets itess wise, he has absolutely passed it.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: One of my favorite plays on the slates for sure.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: But the Cousin stuff is so interesting, Like Pitt's is
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: cheap enough, Darnell's expensive, but he's been a beast. Drake London,
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: like I have a hard time believe in the price
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: takes fair but after what he did last week to people,
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: you have easy stacktart candidates. And I'll throw Ray Ray
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: McCloud in there too, Like we're talking Mitchell mccollins.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Values pretty tough.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: The guy's on the field, like ninety percent of snaps,
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: it could be a Ray Ray McCloud. So there's so
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: many pass catchers at pretty low ownership. In a game,
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: I think they score points applied for twenty five. I
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: think I'm gonna get to cousins on one of my
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: main teams. Your thoughts on that, Tambo.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: I love though.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: I think it's another interesting spot because it's the similar
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: thought to instead of going to like the mac Jones
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: stuff on the opposite side of Aaron Jones earlier that
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: we talked about. It's like we you know, everyone all
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: this game is busy, lots of people are in on
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: it like it's Bjeon versus. No, it's just the running
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: backs again. I don't like the Derek Hills Derek Carr side. Sorry,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: I'll play some Taysom Hill. I was gonna say, but
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: you could do like a Bijeon Taysom Hill secondary stack
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: whatever you want to do a London Camara. You can
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: get secondary stacks. But you also could just do what
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: you just talked about and look for a different way
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: to play Kamara. There's nobody there, like I get people
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: don't like Kamara Chok and I. You know, I talked
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: a little bit poorly about it over the week and
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: then as the week comes around. That's what this show's for,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: you know we talked about in the Mayo show Friday,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: it's this show is the final thoughts. Here's a way
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: that you can play it and get away with it.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: One is the Saints d but two of the one
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: I like better is what you brought up title and
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: it's you go to the other side. It's a great matchup.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: They pass a ton, they have a good team total.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: And I don't believe the London ownership because he just
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: crushed everyone's dreams. He's obviously gonna get an in right
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: away this game and leave the game. Everyone knows exactly
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: what happened last week happens this week, right So you've
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: got Cousins London Pits and if you can't afford London,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: drop down to Mooney. Can't afford Mooney, you could even
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: drop down to Ray Ray like you talked about, So
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: it leverages the bijon side. Still lets you play Kamara,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: you could play Cousins London Mooney and use Taysom Hill,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: you can play Jawan Johnson like. There's ways to still
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: make these stacks work. They do rate out pretty well
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: in our stuff. Again, don't have the stone up yet
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: or but one hundred likes away, so do you want
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: to make note of that? But I think it's definitely
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: an interesting spot. I do like that call. Do as
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Ryan s says, hit that, like I posted this up,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: it's on my ex at TOTEG and Tambo. But again,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: overlay alert, there's two hundred and fifty spots left in
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: our five dollars five max Rake Free Listener league. So
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: the link you can copy and paste it into your
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: browser and do it that way, or just go over
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: to x and find it there. Hoop anything else you
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: want to talk about from what we've mentioned in this game.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: If not, you can take us into a popular one,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: but a good one, the forty nine ers at the Buccaneers.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think the last point for the Alvin
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Kamara stuff, with the positive news for CMC, I think
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: the ownership and Kamara will come down. I mean, he
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: was looking like super mega popular play. Now it's not
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: going to come down like a ton where he's like
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: fifteen percent, but you know it goes from maybe thirty
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: to mid twenties or something. So I think that is
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: one thing to point out, and then yeah, this game
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: is this looks great. And again it's a little bit
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: bummed that the McCaffrey quote came out that he's going
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: to be full go because that's what I was building
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: my teams based on I thought that was going to
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: be the case. Like they've been very cautious with McCaffrey.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: They said he could probably could have played last week.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: And what's the one thing we know about the forty
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: nine ers when a running back starting, the running back
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: starting and getting all the freaking work And you know,
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: now that we get this quote that he's going to
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: be full go, ownership probably comes up a little bit.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: But man, it's still Christian McCaffrey at eight K, Like
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: this is a ten thousand running back when he's fully healthy,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: full workload, getting a huge discount. So now he's probably
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: not ten k in this day and age of pricing
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: where it's all super soft, but probably closer to nine k.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: So you're getting a solid discount for McCaffrey. They're projected
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: to score four touchdowns, twenty eight and a half, twenty
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: nine points. Really good spot. Perty sixty five hundreds just
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: way too cheap on DraftKings and with Ayuk out, you know,
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel looks to be in a good spot. Juwan
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Jennings looks to be in a good spot. Ricky Pearcel
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: appears to be in a pretty good spot. I mean,
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: he again just getting worked into this offense. But I
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: think it was like four or five targets last week. Yeah,
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: four targets brought them all in the week before five.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: He's getting some action in this offense and should be
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: low owned. And then another tight end to throw into
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: the mix is George Kittle. And the one thing that
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: I really like about this forty nine Ers offense is
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: on the other side, the Bucks keep going. Man, even
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: if they're getting their ass kick, they continue to try
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: to score a touchdown all the way to the end
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: and obviously to their own detriment where they lost their
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: two best wide receivers and Godwin and Mike Evans. So
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: they'll keep going. You have solid runbacks on the other side,
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: and I think it's a strong play. You know, Sterling Shepherd.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Some cheap dudes, our guy Miller time, Ryan Miller thirty five.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: I think you can throw him in it as a
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: cheap runback on the other side. Obviously has to do
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: more than just one touchdown on the mainslet, but should
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: be pretty involved here. So this game all around looks great.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: McCaffrey's too cheap, The purty stuff looks good, and there's
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: a lot of different ways to do it. I wouldn't
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: mind like a game stack situation here if you're not
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: playing McCaffrey. I think you definitely definitely need a lot
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: of purty to these pass catchers. So a good game
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: all around. Very interested.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I think I wanted this guy out, so it's very annoying.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: But title, I'll kick at you on this news. Jalen
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: McMillan will play, so you know a lot of looks
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: at Shepherd. We were going to try and run back
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: rare Keem the dream. You know, you can do a
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: lot of different things in this game, but how do
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: you handle that news because McMillan is forty two hundred,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: he's one hundred dollars more than Shepherd, who the ownership
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: is currently on, and you don't know like everyone thinks
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: they know now because of how it played out last time.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: But remember the original talk of when the first injury happened.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: It's like, well, they use Shepherd in the slot, but
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: they want to move McMillan to it, and Palmer's the
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Evans role and these two are fighting for the other one.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: So talk to me about this one because, as our
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: guy Rob says, McMillan playing now as well, so that
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: that news just came out.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, that's actually pretty important news because I had
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: a decent at of Sterling Shepherd just because of the
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: price nature the slate, and I knew I was on
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Niner stuff to be honest, that like, I don't like
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: Sterling Shepherd or McMillan nearly enough or as much. That's
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: another pass catcher that's gonna get looks. It makes me
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: like I guess ought and even more in the sense
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: of I know I'm going to be playing forty nine
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: or stuff, and I know that doesn't affect Ott in
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: one bid, who's spent a beast. So I think that's
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: my main takeaway. But it definitely bumps down the Sterling Shepherd,
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: like or Ray Ray McLeod in that last game with
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Cousin stuff. At a fraction of the ownership, I think
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: I might feel a little better with I don't know.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: The thing is, I know I like this Niner stuff,
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: but with the CMC news, he's my favorite play in
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: the game, I think. But perty's too cheap and to
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: get ownership you can obviously play party with CMC. He
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: can catch the ball. Juwan Jennings looks like a fair
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: mid tier guy. George Kittle looks like another strong tight
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: end with upside. If you go two tight ends, more
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: balanced build, there's still debo. So, man, that forty nine
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: or that McMillan stuff is really interesting because I was
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: just gonna go Sterling Shepherd Kotton as my runbacks and
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: just call the day there. I think my favorite route
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: might just go hope it's CMC Ofteners CMC. You can
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: even go like CMC Kittle or CMC Debo and just
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: hope it. Just those two get all the work for
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: the niners. They're implied for twenty seven points the highest
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: on the slates, and not get to run back there.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: So I don't know, Man, I'm torn. Talk talk me
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: through it.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like a lot of things you said there,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Like I certainly think that the one interesting one, and
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: again it'll get steamed up a little bit more now fine,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: But like CMC Kate Aughton, nice little secondary stack. You
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: gotta play a tight end anyway. One thing that's in
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: the back of my mind that I think and hoop
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: you can correct me if I'm wrong. You you usually
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: remember this stuff better. I think you've done pretty well
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: on forty nine. Ers slates, But isn't it when every
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I know, Ayuk's not healthy, but when CMC is healthy,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: especially and Debo's in there, usually Kittle's blocking a lot
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: more and just taking more advantage of, you know, getting
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: them making room for them. And so I kind of
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: liked the you know, if you're not playing CMC, the
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: purty Debo Jennings with an auton on the other side.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: And now obviously I talked about it, but I do
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: like just CMC with Aughton things like that. And then
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: I also love Baker Kate Aughton with CMC on the
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: other side, because I think in order, if it's a
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: big CMC day and it's a big forty nine Ers day,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: could they blow him out? Sure, but they're still in
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: the road all this factor, I think Baker could throw it,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: you know, a ton of times, forty plus times, and
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: that's just going to rack up points. Why I was
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: a little bit annoyed because I felt good about Jeppard
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: in the slot, but go ahead.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Who definitely yeah, Ruins overall appeal the game for sure,
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: just because uh, you know, it takes away clear play
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: and it's not like the game is going to be
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: more competitive now because Jalen McMillan is playing like it
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: doesn't really do anything from that perspective. The Kittle stuff,
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: he's just it's tough to predict. I mean, he excels
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: in the the high scoring back and forth games, which
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: that's true, you know, is it's like, could we get
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: that here? Man? It just can the Bucks keep this
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: within a touchdown? And again they've shown that they'll keep
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: playing till the bitter end. So I think I'm still
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: good with Kittle, but it is there is definitely some
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: risk involved. The one thing with the McMillan stuff is,
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: you know we talked about a lack of value Donnie Mitchell.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: His ownership is now going up mc collins, assuming a
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: Marii Cooper's out, his ownership's now going up. Like any
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: cheap wide receiver is likely getting increased ownership. Because of
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: this this news, we lose a clear solid value in
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Sterling Shepard most likely.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely something to think about.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: You remind me I forgot about that too, the Kittle
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: side of it, So it actually it wasn't like I
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: wasn't playing him. Was more of what I'm saying is
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: it's you know, makes me think about some of the
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: builds without him, I'm okay with it, but obviously the
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: fact that it could go back and forth. And one
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: interesting thing is that even with the CMC news early
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: and now the extra emphasis point on it or exclamation point,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: I should say, it's just staying at six six and
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: a half in all these places, like why why are
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: they not nine and a half? Like this is the
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Bucks depleted Bucks team. I know it's in Tampa Bay,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: but man, that's another interesting thing. I don't know title
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: anything else you want to add with that game, if
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: not take us into the Steelers.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 6: Commanders the given Baker a lot of credit rightfully, so,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: I mean he continues the battle, and I do believe
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: backdoor covers and like Hoops saying like their ability to
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 6: just keep fighting and putting up points is probably it
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: has to do with that line a little bit as well,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: which unfortunately it's hard to bake that in because I mean,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 6: if they're up seventeen, they're obviously the other side with
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 6: the Niners will run the ball more.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: It's not like they're going all out at backdoor cover
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: doesn't really help push the other team as much. But yeah,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: interesting point there. Next game really easy for me, Commander Steelers,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: no interest in these Steelers. If you played anyone, it
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: would be Najee Harris for me. But again, that Connor
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: Swift range like is so so loaded.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: All that clear is not great. That Connor Swift range
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: so so loaded.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: You can't play everyone, But I am going to be
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: playing Austin Eckler. There is no Brian Robinson again, fifty
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: eight hundred. Probably the cheapest running back I'll really get
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: to to, such a good pass catcher out of the back,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: can score it at the goal line last week, plenty
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: of outs there at fifty eight hundred for him to
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: get there. And then the other ones scary. Terry is expensive,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: so I'm only playing them if I go Daniels. I
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: don't think I'm going Daniels because I don't think they're
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: going to be pushed enough. You're spending a lot, and
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: Terry's expensive. But Ertzy, I'm totally in on Earth's two
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: tight end Bildi's fine birthday narrative.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: Outside of last week, touches have been.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: Good, but then Noah Brown too talk about another like,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: I guess we even need more pivots now with McMillan,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: there eats in a Shepherd a bit forty three hundred
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: Noah Brown wide receiver two on this team, fair price tag.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: I'm in on him as well, but just one off
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: Washington stuff.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: If you don't have Eckler in your build, I mean
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: obviously you could play both. It's not what I'm saying.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, but if you were stuck on the Shepherd
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: thing and you got two hundred bucks to kick around with,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: you know, you don't just have to go to McMillan.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: It was what Hoop said. It actually made it harder
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: to figure out. That's what the problem is. Not that
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: he's going to, you know, change the game. It's that
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: it changes sort of your thought process. And Shepherd would
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: have been a much better play with him not in
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: very very clearly and obvious. So I think Brown is
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: another interesting one. Whop you, I think you might have
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: different takes on this game, So give me your thoughts
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: on the Commanders, especially the Daniel's side. We talked about
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: zach Ertz being the birthday boy, and then anything on
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: the Steelers side at all. I've got some takes for sure.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean definitely interested in the Commander side. I
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: think you know, Brian Robinson being ruled out big boost
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: to Austin Eckler. I think he's a fine play, and
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: I like Tunnel said, probably the cheapest I want to
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: go at running back today, and he's a totally adequate play.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: I do like the Jay and Daniels stuff. You can
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: do a lot of things. You compare him with Eckler.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: Obviously you have cheap pass cast catchers to go along
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: with them, like Noah Brown at forty three Ertz at
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: thirty eight. Really like both those plays, and they're cheap
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: enough where if McDaniel or if Daniels does the majority
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: of the stuff on the ground, like those guys don't
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: need to absolutely go off at forty three and thirty
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: eight hundred. So that's part of the reason I like Daniels.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: It's cheap. And then you have an unknowned guy in
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin at seventy three, where he's coming in at
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: like no ownership whatsoever. Definitely looks overpriced, but I'm in
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: on him, but I only play him if you are
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: playing Daniels. I like him in the Daniels team, So
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: Daniels I can stack a bunch of different ways with Eckler,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: with McLaurin with Noah Brown with Ertz. Now, the problem
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: for sure is the runback because I don't want to
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: play anything on the Steelers side, and I won't be
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: playing it thing on the Steelers side. So I'm looking
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: for Commanders to win, like thirty five to seven or
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: something crazy like that.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: All Right, I got the one. We can clip it after.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: This is the one to try and convince you and
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: change your mind. So three thousand dollars in this game
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: is the Steelers defense the exact same price as the
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Bears at one tenth of the ownership. Probably did you
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: know that Mike Tomlin is Andy Reid off a bye
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: mixed with Bill Belichick versus rookie quarterbacks and the worlds
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: are colliding today, the Steelers coming off of bye going
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: up against Washington. I have some Najee Harris Steelers defense
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: mini stacks because of that, and I think it's a
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: good way to do it. It's a good way to
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: flip it. He's it's you know a lot of people,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: if they're playing this game, they're just playing Eckler or
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: they're stacking the Daniels side. Daniel can still have a
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: twenty Daniels can still beat Daniels could get crushed by
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: the Steelers D today and still beat Patrick Mahomes with
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: fantasy points. That's how good he is. So not against
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: your Daniel takes at all. It's just to note it
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: the exact same price as the Bears, and that tidbit
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: that I pulled this week, put it inside the slate plan,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: bring it to the free show.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: It's all good. But I thought that was very interesting.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: It's a very good sample size. I think everybody already
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: knows the Mike Tomlin stuff about why he's one of
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: the coaches that probably actually should still have a job.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: I know he doesn't always get him over the hunt,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: but he still comes out and finds a way to win.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: He puts his time in man, that's what it is.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: So I thought that was interesting title. You got any
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: thoughts on that? Because I like Pickens there, but I'm
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: not getting to the Wilson stuff. I like, you know,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Mini Stack, Eckler Pickens or I like this Harris Steelers
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: D stuff. And then obviously if you go Daniels, you
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: can put in Ertz and Noah Brown, all those guys.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: Really low owned and it's really similar to your first thing.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: You said Stevenson and Patsky. I guess if people watch
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: him and they're only building one team tailing you, do
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: you have a preference on which side you prefer of
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: having to pick.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Probably probably this one. Yeah, I think this because the
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: Bears are going to be so owned. It's you know,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: he falls in there. I just like the whole process
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: of it. And I don't know, you know, anything else
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: on the other side, but the matchup here is phenomenal.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: It's not like the Commanders can stop anybody with that rush.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: He's just everyone ought to assumes by the way the
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: spread is two and a half. It's not the Commander's
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: favored by ten at home here or something like. Everyone's
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: kind of running it up. As the other nice thing
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: about it, and that's why Eckler's a good standalone play
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: is it doesn't matter if I'm right and the Steelers
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: go up and do crush. Eckler can still get there
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: at fifty eight hundred as well. It could just get
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: a bunch of checkdowns and stuff. So I think that's
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: another interesting one. Also.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's gonna be low owned. I mean it's
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: you've had a couple of combos obviously, running back. Defense
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: has a little correlation, is why we're mentioning it. They
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: get up, you run the ball more, the other team
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: has to pass more. You have more opportunity for your defense.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: So it makes sense to me.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, man, I saw Jones having a rough
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: day over there. Maybe we will get the Drew Lock
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: birthday narrative.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Drew Lock. Yeah, Like how do they just not roll?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: I just don't get stuff like this, like you fucked
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: up and gave this guy a big contract. He sucks
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: at football, he's not very good, or your team sucks
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: really bad. It's it's just incredible. They keep rolling, rolling
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: them out there, just shocking.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that's the case. But let's
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: move on from this game. Let's go to the next one.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: We'll go to the Titans at the Chargers. So we're
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: hitting the afternoon games. There's only three almost eight hundred
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: people watching, three hundred and twenty two likes, So I
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: don't know, man, I mean, this game has been fun
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: and good, but it's like we don't ever have to
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: bring it up. I just think it's interesting that someone
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: mentioned earlier today that maybe the members don't want us
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: to show it. I would just say that that's not
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: the Ship and Nation way right, Like I get it,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: and you pay for it and all that. No one
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: is gleaming enough off of this to take away from
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: your membership value. I can promise you that we put
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: all the work in to try and make it as
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: valuable as possible for you guys. But this is kind
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: of fun, but we'll just keep it off the screen.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: It's okay, title, I'll kick it to you Titans at
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: the Chargers and a little bit of conversation here, I
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: guess because the Herbert side people are loving the Herbert
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: spot for value, right, lad McConkie, Hoop's favorite guy will
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: get there? Who you'll be up next? Quinton Johnston back,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: they still didn't boost him up. He's best by pricing
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: forty nine hundred not even five k. Disley, I think
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: you mentioned this on the Cash Show this week, and
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: I'll you take those thoughts here that even with Herst back,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: it didn't really matter. And then the Titans side, you know,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: Will Levis's back, so Chargers d you could be an
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: onslock for the Chargers action. Go ahead and tityle you
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: can talk about this one.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Will Levis is back I'm holding mine into the
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: agreement like hoop, and I'm playing nobody on the Titans
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: because he stinks so easy there.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: Chargers side.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: Chargers side is tough because Herbert's getting ownership. There's seven
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: and a half point favorites. But like you said, he's
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: really cheap, and I like Justin Jefferson. I like CMC
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: if you like Saquon like ways to get different in
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: that stuff is you can play Jefferson with the Herbert stuff.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: Why what makes Herbert so interesting? They've thrown a lot
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: more as of like they've been more willing to throw.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: Ladd is getting ownership. One of the more chalky guys
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: on the slate, very fair price at fifty nine hundred.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: Quintin Johnson though finally coming off a monster game. He's
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: more of a deep guy. Herbert's giving him chances down
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: the sideline, fifty yard touchdown. Definitely in the ram of
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: possibilities for him. I think his ownership will stay in
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: check there. So you can go Herbert Ladd Johnson if
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: you only pick one of them. Will Disley, Yeah, like
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: I talked about in the cast show, Hurst was back,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: Disley still played sixty eight percent of snaps Hayden Hurst
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: played fourteen percent. Disley's the guy the Monday night game
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: against the Falcons when that was the first week curse
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: was out. Disleey was like their wide receiver one in
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: that game, and I think he earned a lot of
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: their respect. On a slate where value is tough, Donnie
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: Mitchell's three hundred more. That's the stuff for like two
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: tight ends. If you use them, you only get eight points,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: but it gets you everything else. And hey, how does
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: he get more than eight points? If he gets fourteen,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: he falls in the box or something. Herbert is more
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: likely to come with. So yes, the charger stuff is
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: getting some ownership, but it allows you to do so
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: much to get different in other spots. I'm definitely going
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: Herbert's Ladd Johnson Disley. Now the really interesting point, kind
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: of like JT. James Cook earlier, JK. Do the leverage
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: off of everything in this game, they are seven and
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: half point favorites, they are at home. The thing is
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: Titans having pretty solid defense, but if they're up, they're
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: gonna want to run the football. Not too many are
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: playing Dobbins. It leverages off all the chalk that way,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: So I'm really playing charters in multiple areas. Titans is tough,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: though I don't Will have his stings. I don't know
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: how much they're pushing it, but yeah, Dobbins charters, d
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: I guess like you said, I mean, that's definitely a
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: way to get exposure to this one.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: And this is the opposite of the previous game like
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: it does have they're almost eight point home favorites. They
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: do just want to jam Dobbins all day, so I'm
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: not sure why that would be the case. I think
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: one of the interesting ones would be like your Donald stacks,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: like a Donald whoever you choose with him, and then
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: you're leveraging Jones on the Minnesota game for the low
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: owned Zack to then put in the low owned running
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: back in the game later on, which is a home team,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: big favorite where usually this is a slam dunk spot.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: But who, I'll kick it to you. Any thoughts on that? JK.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: Dobbins looking like pretty good leverage here and then you know,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Titans side pretty tough. Alma did mention Nick Westbrook A
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Keene just scores a touchdown every single week. He's value.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the Dobbins still's interesting. I'm Fandoay's going to
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: be owned because I think he has like the same
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: price tag on FanDuel and DraftKings are very similar on
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: DK's priced up seventy two. There's a lot of guys,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: but man, it does make sense. This could be a
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: Dobbins Chargers defense game. I love love that stack, especially
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: for Handbilly. If you're just running down an optimizer, you
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: probably don't get a lot of that. But that makes
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: a ton of sense because Herbert's getting ownership, and it's
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: not because people like Herbert. It's because Herbert fifty two
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: hundred salary's tight. Mconkie's fifty Maconkie the Donkey. I'm sticking
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: with the nickname. It's bit me in the ass. I
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: am playing him today, but we have to stick with
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: Maconkie the Donkey at this point under six k, Quinton
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: Johnson coming off the Big Game, under five K Disley
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: thirty one hundred. That's why Herbert's getting ownership. Herbert's not
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: getting ownership because people necessarily like Herbert in this passing game,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: it's because it's cheap and we need the value. So
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: how do you leverage off that? You go to a
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: over price running back in Dobbins over priced defense in
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: the Chargers when everyone's going a little cheaper. So whoever
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: made that call, I think it's a phenomenical. Now in
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: terms of the run, I am playing Herbert for the record,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: like at fifty two, just because I have to. With
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: what I'm doing with my teams on the Titans side,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: I'm good with Kelvin Ridley at fifty seven. I mean
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: a lot of targets. I mean coming from Will Levis,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: the targets aren't all that desirable. But I think it's
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: like twelve and eight in the last two. I mean,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: it just has to or fifty or not so eight, nine,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: fifteen eight again Will Levis back. It's a little less appealing,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: but they're just gonna have to throw it to him.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: So if you are playing some of these Herbert teams,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: I do like Ridley not gonna play Westbrook aikine. But
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: it is funny. It's like, oh, Titans square a touchdown
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: on red zone, and you know it's not Pollard. It's
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: not saying, it's not Ridley, it's not any of these dudes.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be Westbrook every time time. Every time. It's crazy.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: You see that that six go up for the Titans,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: and it's this dude playing it but interesting only.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Only thirty away. And Philip knows that's what it's all about. Man,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: you got a wheel gram up in there, get her
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: on it. You gotta get mom, your kids, your sister,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: whoever you got. Man, just let them know. Hit the
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: like button for the boys. It's perfect. We should have
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: you know, it's just all algorithm bakes people. You wonder
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: what's the secret behind it. There's almost eight hundred watching.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: We would likely be pushed further and have a thousand
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: plus watching. It helps us grow. The more we grow,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: the more we show. It's a win win for everybody.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: So just got to keep that in mind. And then
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: it's obviously better for everything we do over at the
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: site as well for you if you are a member,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: for your experience and what you get to go with that.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: So yeah, poor poor hoopster, the old Dak jersey. You're
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: supposed to be lighting that on fire when you do
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: the shoey.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: I thought, yeah, it's all it's all gonna come. Yeah,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: we're gonna we're it's gonna all happen at once. All right,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: let's put it that it's all gonna happen at once.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: And dak Man that's who. Although are we talking about
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: this game? Is that the game that's up next?
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: No, we're saving that for last, and apparently the Chat
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: might be saving it for last as well for the
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Stone because still fifteen shy. So we'll see if they
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: can pull it off. As you kick this one off,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: But we are on to the Jets at the Cardinals.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, so I'm gonna be in I think on
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: the Aaron Rodgers stuff for the first time all season,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: Like they haven't played my homes all season. I'm playing him,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: haven't played Rogers all season, which I guess isn't all
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: that crazy because they've been on Showdown or Island games
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: basically all you on. But fifty seven hundred for him,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: has a good connection with Garrett Wilson, obviously, good connection
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: with DeVante Adams. The price looks good. There are guys
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: on the other side that I feel comfortable running it
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: back with Breece Halls. You know, I can't even say
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: popular now because again he's another guy that's going to
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: be affected by the Christian McAffrey stuff. A lot more
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: people are going to go to McCaffrey. So Breece Hall's
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: ownership has to come down a little bit, but again
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: and he's gonna get some ownership. So I like the
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: Rogers to Wilson, the Rogers to Adams, not gonna mess
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: with really any other part of the stack. It's just
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: a clean stack for me. Rogers with one of those guys,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: you know, Conklin not all that interest that. I prefer
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: the other cheaper tight end. So for me, it's very
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: clearly Breese Hall strong play, Aaron Rodgers to either Wilson
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: or Adams, very strong play, and I'd say pretty damn cheap.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: The runbacks. You get James Connor, who in competitive games
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: just gets all the work and kind of cheap. You know,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: we've talked about there's a lot of guys in the
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: upper sevens now into the AK range in play James
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: Connor sixty five hundred right there with DeAndre Swift, fine option,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: Trey McBride, where a lot of people are, you know,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: probably trying to save a little bit at tight end,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: fine run back. And then Marvin Harrison is the one
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: guy I'm still deciding on. It's probably easier to play
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: him on FanDuel. The sixty four on DK is a
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: little more difficult. But if I'm going to be heavy
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: on the Rogers stacks. I probably have to include Marvin
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Harrison as well.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: Ten more away from hitting in and this is the
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: game you want it for. I can promise you that
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: because there's a certain color code on here that you're
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: gonna want to look at and all the stuff to
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: go with it. But title the Aaron Rodgers fanboy from
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: from I don't know if you still are, but certainly, yeah,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: you can rep in the guy I always say it.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, I was told there's no possible way he
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: ever breaks the slate anymore. He's not possible. But this
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: could be the game, man, this could be the spot.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I got some thoughts, but I'll let
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: you go first Jets at the Cardinals. Hopefully we can
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: round it out. Everybody can get the stone because a
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: lot of stuff to talk about on the stone for
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: this game specifically.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: I like it for sure, But what and as Hoop
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: was talking, it almost made me like it a little
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: less is he's right and it's so obvious on.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: Who to stack with him Rogers, Davante Garrett Wilson.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: So of the eleven percent, Davonte Garrett Wilson, Rogers are
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: all coming relatively the same, Like, what are nine percent
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: of those teams built the exact same and going that
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: and then half the team's run back Connor half run
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: back McBride.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm overthinking a little bit, Like
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: people aren't gonna play Conklin, They're not gonna play Gibson.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: That Corley dude doesn't even know what to hold on
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: the football across the end zone. Like it's literally just
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: those two. Now, its leverage off of some priese. You
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: can play breeze with Rogers and play one bump, so
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: there is different ways to do it. Because Breese can
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: catch the ball of the backfield. So I'm gonna play it.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: But I'm a little more like seeing this Rogers and
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: this stuff be like five six times more higher on
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: than the Kirk Cousins stuff. I just it's not my
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: favorite stack. Let me just say that. But I do
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: like it. It's just it's so obvious how to stack it. Breese,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: I'm definitely gonna be playing some He projects really well.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: The game logged the past two weeks not good. Fumbled
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: in both games with Davante back. Maybe that's a little
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: less receptions from Breese because if Rodgers' first look of
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: Wilson isn't there, probably it is with Davante Etca. So
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: he falls down the target tree a bit. I like him,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: but man, you can't get running back wrong. Seemc's there,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: Bijeon's there, Kamara is there.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: That's six. K is good.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: So I think I prefer Rodgers in the passing stuff
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: more than Breese. If having to pick other side, cardinals
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: really easy for me. Just James Connor, Trey McBride. I'm
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: not playing Harrison, He'll be really low on, but I'm
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: not playing Kylo. That's how I would get to that
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: stuff so easy. Just Connor McBride run backs on that side.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Ryan Ass. Everybody's hero got there with
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: his eighth account. That's what it's all about. Baby Burner's
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: he got it covered. So we made it. We had
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: the four hundred. We appreciate everybody, obviously, Like we said,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: it helps us out a ton, it's easy to do, it's free,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: supports us. So thank you this one. If you haven't
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: seen this stone, that's why I support me. We bring
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: this up. We're I'll do my little breakdown here, but
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: we got it targeted as a sneaky game, and I
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: know what Rob is saying. I know what Title is saying,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: and I also know why because if you go look
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: at the SIMS, SIMS are pushing this game and they
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: want you to go to the Jets, and we have
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: partnerships with the Solver. If you're a Solver member, you
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: can go over check their sims out. I always look
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: at this stuff. It's not necessarily what I'm using, but
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: just to say, like as a piece of the puzzle,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: if you will it most certainly is so it is
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: wanting to put that more. I think the most interesting
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: thing though, is this the Breeze Hall stuff. He's already
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: in a good spot. Everyone says he's popular and loves him,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: but now you got like we just can't have them all.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense, like if SEM he's getting
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: even more steamed up. People are playing Kamara and b
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: Jhon Robinson, all these other running backs that we mentioned
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: in the slate leverage on this guy getting some of
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: that guy, all these Aaron Jones, all these How can
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: he just be super owned? So even if there is
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: late steam on Rogers Wilson Adams. Two things One maybe
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: get some more Bresal in there. Two put Brisol in
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. But three back to your point title,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: I think you can still get away with it because
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: of all those other options I just mentioned. Even though
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: your main stacks at so it's not even in the
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: last week like a lot of those Geno stacks were
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: Gino Gino, jas En Lockett and Lockett only got your fifteen.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: It wasn't even needed. You could have that. You could
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: have Rogers be needed, one of Wilson or Adams have
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: the big game and the other guy have eighteen points
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: and you still in the mix. But there's so many
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: other ways to go after that double tight end lineups
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: that don't involve anything from this game. Don't run it
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: back with Arizona like, There's a bunch of different ways
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: that you could still play this game. Obviously an amazing
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: spot here against this pass defense, so that's what people
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: are looking at. But we got big time numbers these guys,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: and there is room back to our head. The more
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: you grow, the more you show there, there's more room
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: for these guys to grow, and they'll still show at
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: pretty good leverage. So I think that's certainly another thing
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: that you could look at. I think it's fine. You
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: don't have to force the Conklin play in or anything
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: like that. If you don't want to Gibson those guys.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: If you want to play something in MM or something,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: I love that you pick one between Wilson Adams and
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: throw in a Conklin that you have to fill up
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: the spot or a Gibson and just risk it. But
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: that's how I get to Harrison Junior and mcbriden, those guys,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: James Connor obviously like on the other side. And then Hoop,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: you said it best for Harrison for me, that's on
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: FanDuel right, Foreigner Bucks more. But Hoop, do you want
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: do you want to add anything else with everything we
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: just went through here or anything else you you can
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: see on this game after talking through it.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, I mean I still like it. I mean
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: I think I think it's a good appealing game in
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: terms of like the ownership stuff. It's still Yeah, all
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: these guys are getting a little bit like Rogers the twelve,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: the wide Receivers thirteen. But then when you actually look
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: at the people that are the person that are going
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: to be pairing them together, and then a run back
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: on the other side, the numbers really start dwindling down.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: So that would be I guess the counter to it
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: being popular and obvious.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get to this in a second. This is
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: simply not true. Like I just said, I explained it.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: You know, he can't be even if he's fifteen sixteen percent,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: eighty five out of every hundred aren't playing him at all.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: That's not you know, donkey chock. It's a it's a
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: spot that you can get to. It's a great matchup.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: He can get there through the air, on the ground.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: There's a ton of different ways. I'm not saying he's
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: the best player on the slate. I'm just trying to say,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: you know what people have confused as Alvin Kamara at
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: almost thirty percent would have been donkey chok. That's where
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: like you could call it that. But again, you don't
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: play donkey chock unless you do or until you do,
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: so it can still get there. Just a note as well,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: But I definitely don't think Bresee fits that. If the
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: passing stack is picking up steam, the CMC ownership pulling away,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: Kamara is still getting it, Joan's still getting it. All
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: these other guys, there's a ton of ways you can
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: go within this game, So I do think this is
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: a good spot. Last game on the slate title. If
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: nothing else to add there, you could take us into
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: this last one. It is the Eagles at the Cowboys,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: and Dante popped in to Sayquan is the best running
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: back play on the slate. Certainly something to talk about
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: there to kick things off.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: First of all, what do you think who does once
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: a week when he turns off his camera for a
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: minute and he guesses.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: That's we gotta save that take away in the future.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's a good that's a good giveaway topic.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if I want to see some
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: of these answers, I'll tell you.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: I definitely.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: You got to give away with titles, so I gotta
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: get it, get a giveaway with who what?
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: People guess black Mask is an awesome dude always in
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: here support. No, it's not, it's it's a general statement
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: for me. I was using his topic to bring it up.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: But like Morre says, that is what who hit on earlier,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: it's always the same. Everyone's the worst chalk on the board,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: Like you, nobody's good? Then who do you play? I
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: don't even know how you do it. Then it's like
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: everyone sucks and if they get there, they're horrible. If
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: they suck their hat like it's it's always the same ship.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: So go ahead, title, go ahead and take us into the.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, easy for me and nothing else like CD and
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: AJ Brown, of course, could they get there if I'm
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: spending up a receiver, I'm going on, I'm going Jefferson
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 4: like it's already hard to get up a receiver, like
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: we talked about enough if that's how I can get
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: my fifteen percent is not partly playing any CD or
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: AJ Brown big boy favorite seven and a half Cooper
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: rush is there. Cowboys ain't looking great for them in
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: a Dome Division game. Like, Yeah, it's hard to not
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: say Saquon's the best running back playing the slate. Obviously
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: Kamara is, but a little pivot like Saquon still hunder
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: ten percent because the CMC Kamara all these other plays.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: I like Saquon. We'll see how much I'm able to
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: get to him. He's expensive. I like Jefferson, I like
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: other guys. But it's really just you can go Eagles
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: D too, So I guess Saquon Eagles D. But that's
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: that's it for me. I'm not playing any Cowboys. I'm
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: not playing hurt stuff. Does he get to the one
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: yard line a million times to get in? I hope not?
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: But just Saquon if Cooper Rush and CD lamb Berry
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: me whatever. Yeah, Well, like it sucks because it could
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: be a thing. He definitely throws to him a lot
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: all that he's cheap fifty one hundred. But I'll be
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: getting to my Jefferson shares up before I do that,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: so we'll we'll have to see how it goes. I
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: think the Eagles side would be the way to go
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: here and more interesting, like all his weapons back with
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: Hurts everything rolling out there. You got Goddard, you got
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: aj Brown, you got DeVante Smith, you got Barkley. It's just,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: you know, really good spot for them to beat up on.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: The Cowboys. Definitely possible. They're almost eight point favorites even
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: on the road, still a pretty big total. It's just expensive.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: That's where the challenge lies. And we talked about that
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: with Jefferson and other guys earlier. But Hoop kick it
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: to you and I will say when we when we
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: add you know, shut up to our guys. Shalou big
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: NHL Knight bat by the ways in the NHL streets
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: now huge NFL week last week, but he said, I
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: never seen Batman and Hoop we're not picking winners today,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: but no grandma wheelchair jokes or lawncare jokes. Will we
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: will win? You can say them. I know they're gonna
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: come up, but Hoop's not picking the winner on this.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: We'll we'll pick it. And I'm not giving credit for
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: the old jokes. They got to move on.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: And you touched on a little bit the guy that
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: said he had his grandma hit the like button wheeled
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: grandma full It's.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: All subtleties you gotta come in with, like just the
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: little ones that still hit, but you gotta have new
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: new swings to them, right, you gotta.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: Have It was a good That was a good one.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: I can't remember the origin of it, but it was.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: It's quality entertainment. Yeah's a great play. I mean, we
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: know what he's capable of in these games where they're
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: projected to score points, they're they're you know, highly favored,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: which they are here. Uh, great play. And again, with
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: McCaffrey's ownership likely going up, sa Quon's is probably coming
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: back a little bit, so that makes it even better
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: for this Saquon play phenomenal play on the slate where
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: salary is pretty tight. But man, Jalen Hurts two percent,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: A J. Brown one to two percent, DeVonta Smith one percent,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: Goddard under one percent. I'm playing one hundred and fifty
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: teams like I have to have some of that, Like
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: I have to have some of that, and it's difficult
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: to play, so most people aren't gonna do it, and
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: that's why the ownership is where it's at. Like if
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: you play Jalen Hurts with AJ Brown, you're immediately strapped
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: for cash, immediately strapped for salary. But I will be
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: forcing some of that in today. You know, if it's
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: not they're gonna score points. And if it's not Saquon,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: it could be Hurts to Brown, Hurts to Smith, Hurts
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: to Goddard. I'm in on it again. It's not gonna
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: be like I'm playing ten percent Jalen Hurts stacks, but
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: I will have some And I mean that. Those ownership
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: numbers are like insane, and I get it. I get
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: it because it's tough, but playing one fifty I have
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: to be in on some Yeah, nothing on the Dallas side, like, yeah,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: if it beats me, it beats me. I'm not And
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: I will say though, like in terms of winning the
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: football game, I've said this over the course the last
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: couple of seasons, Cooper Rush is really no different than
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: Dak Prescott when it comes to winning an actual football game.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: Like fantasy wise, much different. We've been on Dak like
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: you can get their fantasy wise, but in terms of
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: winning a football game, this could potentially be an upgrade
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: for Dallas. To be honest with you, I expect them
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: to keep It's not no joke, IM to keep this
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: game close, closer than if Dak was in. So, am
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: I playing Cooper Rush today? Hellmo, am I playing CDE Lamb?
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: Probably not. But when it comes to wins and losses,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: and these Dallas people have been like on me for years,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: Cooper Rush is no different than Dak when it comes
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: to winning football games.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing is, like, it's not just the report
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: cards or anything, like we're talking for two different sides
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: sore now because DFS plus that like you nailed it,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: like the way you broke it down. Your Dak stuff
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: in the past was always the same, not on him
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: as a great real life quarterback, but in fantasy he
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: can make it happen. Certainly think that's possible. But if
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: the Eagles lose this game, I know it's a division game,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: it's always a battle between these two teams, but completely
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: embarrassing obviously, like it's no secret this is a spot
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: they should just smash. So back to the original point,
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: Barkley was already going to be low owned. He's going
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: to be even lower now with the CMC news. You
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: already had Kamara and that, and that was my thing
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: earlier saying about like the Kamara thing. The reason that
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: would get put in the Donkey Chuck category when you
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: break it down is because as much as his spot
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: is really good and they're at home and it's at
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: Lanta and all of that, when you're comparing it, it's
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: this spot is actually not much worse. It's only two
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: hundred bucks more, and it was like one third or
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: one quarter the ownership in just a solid of a matchup,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: you know, pretty optimal, high leverage, all these things where
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: it's a guy that can really break a slate and
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: we've seen Barkley, who already a couple times this season,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me if he does it a third.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: So I like the call. If you want to put
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: him with the Eagles D, you could do that. They're
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: sort of in between where people are landing at twenty
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: five to or twenty four to three k or going
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: up to thirty seven thirty eight hundred with the Vikings
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: and the Chargers, So I like that call as well.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: Title anything else with this one title that you want
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: to add, I mean, not much else for me, but
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: that's just sort of the breakdown on this one.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: No, I'm just I totally get like, if you want
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: to go Hurts A J. Brown or Hurts Smith, I
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: would just go Hurts and pick one of them, or
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: Hurts godd or whatever, because it's really I don't know,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: you know, Hurts Brown Smith on a slate like this
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: with salary, but I can't. It's just one man, just
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: definitely one and Hurtz gets the touch push one of
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: them going like clear up. But it's expensive. I'm just
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: gonna go the saque stuff in this game. You can
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: go Eagles D and call the day, so nothing more
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: to add.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: You gotta almost go like a Hurts Goddard only and
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: then maybe you could get Lamb on the other side
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: if you really wanted to do that, but it's like
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: hurts Goddard. Maybe double tight end with Goddard and that's
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: what makes it work. So you could fit aj Brown
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: and then if you want to run it back, you
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: could take a chance on like a Tolbert or maybe
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: a Brooks who might have played more with Rush. But
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: that's the whole point of why nobody's on it, Because
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: I just explained why everyone said that's horrible. Yeah, everybody
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: feels the same way. That's why nobody is clicking it.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: So that's the tough one. Go ahead.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, Justin must be new to
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: the show. Am I crazy to think MVS is a
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: heck of a value play? No one talking about him,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: but he's on a few options for cars. Must be
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: definitely new to the show. We appreciate you tuning in,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: but man, MVS fucking sucks at catching footballs. I get it,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: but man, he's so bad.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: He is so cheep, he'll be on the field if
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: you want to play him.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: It's not the worst on this play him on the
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: early slate Kindle with the politically.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: Correct answer, were like, that's why he's here, there's just
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: no value.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: But he did politics.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: No, I'm just kidding rolling And no, I wouldn't.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't do this, Jake, just because of their prices
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: and like the goal line equity of them getting in
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: is usually just hurts or Saquin with the stuff.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: So I wouldn't do that. And good, that's the news
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: we expected. Yeah, that's good. That's good that we get
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: that news. And uh, mccollins, I think probably Curtis Samuel
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: is a little bit of a necessity now on the slate.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: And then obviously you shou here looking looking.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: Kink gets the bump too if you think they run
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: a little James Cook leverage.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's a it's a good slate.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: It's a good.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: Slap trying trying to win a millimacker today you get
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: to get to switch it up if you try to
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: win a milli maker play mccollins. That might be the way.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: So Drake may lineups with mac collins in them.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: That that might be the st That sounds gross.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: So any anything else? Title? You got final thoughts here?
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: Do you know anything else you want to talk about before
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: we get out of here?
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, I'm hoping and I see a couple
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 3: of gritties from my dude, because five percent is pretty tasty.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely need a couple to find I'm with you.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: I like that call, and I will say I like
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: that more than trying to make like a rush lamb
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: work for trying to get to like some of these
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: hurt slanne ups. I'm playing some hurts, so I'll just
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: have some in the large field stuff. But it is
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: tough to make them look good and make them right out. Okay,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: So yeah, Mayo might have been on may because the
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: last you know, it's one one vowel off Mayo may
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: see it. Maybe that's what he was thinking and just
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: law of attraction, like Hoop getting those little Jordan Humphrey
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: sprinkles into his builds. But maybe it just might be
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: the thing, Hoop. Any final thoughts from you before we
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: get out of here.
• 1:31:39
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