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interview with Serena Part 2 · The Living Freed Podcast

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Hey y 'all, I'm Hannah Liz, a Coastal Living,
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Jesus Living, NC native, and this is the Living
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Freed Podcast. where we discuss intentionally
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living our lives to the fullest that God has
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intended, having those late -night, open -heart
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friend convos, not letting others, ourselves,
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or ideas hold us down, allowing Jesus to free
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us of the chains that we didn't know we were
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holding onto. You can see the full show notes
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attached to this episode, and if you love this
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episode, please leave me a review. Here is a
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quick recap on what previously went down on the
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Living Freed podcast. Eight years old. Serena's
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my ride or die. Anyways, so Serena, what do you
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like about me? I'm just kidding. Where to start?
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Where to start? Can we start with what we don't
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like? 2026 is supposed to be something great.
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I already know it for so many reasons, but this
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would just be that cherry on top. It'd be something
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for the ages. Just imagine the story. Now I was
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in denial, but your aunt, your aunt, you know
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why we live here? Your aunt told me. Your aunt
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spoke and she told me. But she knew it. It wasn't
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that she hoped for it or thought it or what.
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She knew it. She said my husband was going to
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be here too. Look at your dad over there. I'm
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just kidding. Do you feel like you've been set
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up in that way in ministry because you've experienced
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the opposite? Oh yeah, 100%. I might be one of
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the most extroverted people you know. And many
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people tell me I'm extremely extroverted. But
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I also experienced extreme loneliness for the
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majority of my life. I can talk to anyone. I
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can befriend anyone. Finding those deeper relationships
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without feeling exclusion was a whole different
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ballgame. So knowing how people must feel when
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they cannot connect or don't know how to talk
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to people, and I do know how to talk to people.
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At least I don't have that excuse. It makes me
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feel for them. I don't want them to feel that
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way. So I'll go my way. And even if it's possible
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that they already know someone, I'd rather double
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check, you know, and then get them involved because
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I didn't have someone to do that for me. I had
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to do that myself. So they always say, go back
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to your roots when you're unsure. And I looked
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up, I knew there wasn't the CREC there, but I
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was like, let's, let's just look. First thing
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that kept coming up, Oceanside. Every time I
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saw the pictures, I was like, this reminds me
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of the places Hannah goes. No lie. There's places
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that Hannah goes. And you're always involved
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at the churches that you're at. I always loved
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that and always wanted to be. I was like, she
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always knows everybody. I know everybody, but
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she's very involved in the church know everybody.
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And so I was like, you know what, we'll try it.
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Maybe they have something. Like maybe this is
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it. I thought it was a lot bigger church than
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it was at the time. Yeah, I was surprised. When
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you had talked about it, I thought it was going
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to be bigger. And when I went, I was like, oh,
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like this is cute. And not cute in like a belittling
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way. Like I love, I think your church is the
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perfect size. I love my church, yeah. So we've
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grown. so much since the beginning. Um, so since
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I first started going there and so I got there
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that first day and one of the main things that
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I needed to happen was that someone had to reach
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out. I needed some introductions. Like how many
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times I would sit there in the pew and wait for
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someone. I would slowly walk to the exit. I don't
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know who to talk to. I don't know what to do.
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I know I'm extroverted. I know I can, but to
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me it was, I need to find a place that is extending
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their arm and trying to be welcoming to people.
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Should I quit my job? Should I quit my job and
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sit here and read the Bible for a couple more
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hours? Can I get away with that? Because I really
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do think like just that you said this once when
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you're headed to Puerto Rico, you're like, you
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can't know God. You truly cannot know God, God
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himself, like his personality, who he is without
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reading the word. You can't. sorry, I don't care
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who you are. Like you can have an idea of him.
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You can have, yeah, but it doesn't mean you know
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him, know him and knowing his character and who
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he is is so important. So you have to read the
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word. Um, and doing like that has such a big
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impact on my life. So I love that you, and it
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does help. You know, it's funny cause I recently
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ran across people that I don't think they'll
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ever experience that to the same. And I didn't
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realize that wasn't a thing that other people,
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they feel loneliness. Yeah. But not always to
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that level. Yeah. And you're like, oh, you've
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never, you've not ever had that denial like push
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off in the same way, I guess. A denial that Jesus
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had. Yeah. On a regular basis. Say that all the
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time. So you're not the only one. And he still
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moved forward. I bawled. Like there are times
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where I just, I felt so defeated. So incredibly
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done. To very, very drastic measures. But what
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was I saying? Oh, yeah. But, you know, with with
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a good relationship with God, it is so much easier
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to fight that off. There are so many things,
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including that are hard like that. I don't know
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how people get through life without it, without
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him supporting them in those. I always say to
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like and we have this conversation. When was
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the worship night? Friday night. I always say
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like I said this to you, like if you're experiencing
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it, be the change of it. You know, like if you
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felt left out, make sure somebody else doesn't
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feel left out in the future. If you see a hole,
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fill the hole. Like, be the one who shows up
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in that way for others. Another note, one other
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note, for people that feel left out or excluded
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or lonely, especially when you're trying to get
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involved, realize that those people that you
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want to be involved with that you're not having
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the chance to, maybe those aren't the ones you're
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being called to be around. There are other people
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around you. people that are your friends, that
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want to be your friends, that want to spend time
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with you, that maybe those are the ones God is
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calling you to be around, to minister to, to
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hang out with, to get to know, to also introduce
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them to other people. But your sole focus, and
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I am guilty of this, is on the people you want
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to be friends with that aren't wanting to be
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friends with you. It's so easy to see those and
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ignore those around you that you already have.
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But God has put those around you that you have
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for a reason. Do not take them for granted. dive
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into those relationships but you will you have
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a responsibility to others to care for them as
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they care for you so if or no is to to care for
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others like you want to be you know yeah If you
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don't want to be treated that way, don't treat
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the ones that are next to you that want to be
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your friend that way. Yeah. Of course you're
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not going to be friends with those other people
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you want to be friends with if you're doing the
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exact same thing they are. Yeah. I remember at
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one of the churches I went to, it was like when
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I first went to Wilmington, you went with me.
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There was like a group, I hate saying this, but
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like popular people. Yeah. Every church. They
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were the outsiders. And the group of the popular
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people wanted to be friends with me, which I
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appreciated at one point. At one point, I wanted
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to be their friend, but I also saw the tables
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sitting by themselves of the weird people. I
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mean, some of them were really strange. I thought,
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you possibly could have been a school shooter.
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But others just had disabilities, and that's
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why they were shunned, is for their disabilities
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or whatever. And I'm one of those people. I don't
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care. Like, I just don't care what you have going
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on in life. I'll hang out with you. I just don't
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need to be lonely. And I remember I got pulled
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aside, like, by someone in a conversation. They're
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like, oh, we're going to go do this thing. I
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said, cool. Like, can I tell everybody else?
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And they're like, no, no. Like, why are you always
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hanging out with those other people? Like, why
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are you not hanging out with us? I was like,
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I'd love to hang out with y 'all. But I also
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don't want to have these people continue to feel
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like exiles at church. Yeah. Of all places. Yeah.
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Like, that's embarrassing for us. And then they
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started to exile me from, like, the cooler group
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because of that. I know exactly what you're talking
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about. And that sucked at heart because I wanted
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to be friends with these people. But I also didn't
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want all these other people to feel shunned.
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That just wasn't the vibe. Sorry. Not the vibe
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I'm giving off. There is a nice balance. It's
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not that you can't have relationships with those
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people. But if you're exclusively hanging out
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with them and not letting other people, you know.
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poured into again or be pouring to you then you're
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not only being selfish and withholding but uh
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yeah there's selfish and withholding this you're
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doing both things you're hurting yourself and
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you're hurting them it's not just them that's
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being hurt there yeah exactly um yeah if there's
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nothing wrong with having your friend group and
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hanging out with them but if you are constantly
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only doing that and shunning other people it's
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not that is not right yeah So I think there is
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definitely a balance, and I completely see what
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you're talking about. Yeah. You have to have
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your friendships. They're not sure if they can
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hang out with some people. They're not sure if
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they have to hang out with everyone. You don't
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have to do one or the other. You can do both.
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Exactly. Find a balance. Yeah. Find a way to
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be able to include everyone, but also you can
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still have your friendships. You can. Are you
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like this when you are talking? Yeah. I'm picturing
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everything and I assume everyone is following
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along the pictures in my head and like the PowerPoint
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that goes on my head. I'm like, this is why I
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think this to this, to this, to this. And in
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my head, it makes sense. And other people are
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like, well, how did you get there? How did you
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jump from this to this? It makes sense. I think
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I see. It's the ADHD. It's the ADHD. Well, you
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should, if you think you're bad, you should go
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listen to me and Caitlin's, Caitlin Phillips.
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Caitlin Dietz and I, we stay on track. Caitlin
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Phillips and I add multiple people message me
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and they're like, love to the podcast. We have
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no idea what the two of you are talking about.
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I believe those. Truly. Hers is a little unchecked.
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I'm not going to lie. Yeah. For me, sometimes
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I have a really hard time, but I try so hard
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to keep it on point, but it's really hard. That's
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why I make PowerPoints for myself. Like I could
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show you the many, many, many like check marks.
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So I stay on track when I'm doing this myself
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because it's so easy to get off. And I will ramble.
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Like sometimes I catch myself rambling and I'm
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like, I don't know where that came from. But
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anyways. I have something else to say. Like,
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you know, it's bad. It gets weird. Because you
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can't, especially if you're just chatting. Yeah.
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Like, me and Caitlin Dietz, when we do it, because
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she's been on a couple times, we stay on track
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for the most part. But how our rabbit trails
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go is they loop back around eventually. Yeah.
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So, like, we might make a right -hand turn, but
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we're going to keep making that right -hand turn
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until we, like, we match back up. I don't, I
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feel like editing this, and I know it's not.
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I know you started this not for you, but because
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you felt the calling for it. And I think that's
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amazing. But if I had to listen to myself say
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as many times as I know, I've said it because
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I can't. You know what's worse? You know what's
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worse is my breathing. I edit this thing and
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I'm like, damn, I cannot tell you how often I
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go, damn, Hannah, you can't breathe. The amount
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of deep breaths I go. So then I said, like, I
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literally. I get so pissed at myself. I'm like,
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wow, are we learning to breathe for the first
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time every time we record this podcast? I don't
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know. You know when you're on the phone with
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a friend and you realize how much they talk with
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a weird thing that just clicks you? Yeah. Okay.
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Please. Why are you clearing your mouth and sucking
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your tongue? I'm so sorry to say this. I'm so
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sorry to say this. At worship, prayer worship
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night, there's this girl that prayed. And if
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I hear Lord Jesus. one more time i was gonna
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leave the room because the prayer and lord jesus
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we just thank you so much lord jesus for the
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day and the night that you've provided lord jesus
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and everyone that could be your lord jesus because
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you are such a good father lord jesus and we
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just want to thank you jesus christ at least
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you would randomly switch up i was like i had
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a shot for every time she said lord jesus i would
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be blacked out right now oh my god I don't even
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know what to say to that. I can't say that I've
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never noticed it. I'm so glad you haven't noticed
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it. No, I'm saying I can't say I have not noticed
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it. Most definitely have noticed that. She's
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not the only person that does that, though. A
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lot of people do it. And that's like their go
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-to. It's a common. And I don't know if it's
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a filler. It is. It's a replacement for an um.
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It really is. But the word, like, you know, his
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name is powerful, so I understand there. I think
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that there have been a couple of times where
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I've been like, I feel like this prayer is just
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Lord Jesus. Yeah. Which is a powerful prayer
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in and of itself, for sure. Yeah, you can say,
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there's times that all I say is Jesus. Yeah,
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of course. It's one word prayer. Sometimes I
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don't know what else to say. Yeah, but I was
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just standing there. And I really did think Serena's
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going to hate me, but I have to walk out of this
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room. Did you walk out? No. Oh. I was standing
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right next to you. I know. I know. I contemplated
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it. I contemplated it. No, no. I contemplated
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it. Honestly, that night turned out to be great.
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So many people showed up more. And that was our
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first night. Plug. Oceanside. Young adults. Last
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Friday of every month. Plug. We're in Boca. Be
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there. Show up. Yeah, be there. It's a great
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night, great time to get to know other people
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and worship Jesus Christ. That's right. Make
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friends. Yeah, make friends. Maybe don't be so
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lonely. Come say hi. I shamelessly plug salt
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all the time. Salt? My church, salt. Oh, salt.
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Salt. I thought you were saying shamelessly plug
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salt. No, salt. No. All the time, though. I'm
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like, my church, salt, we did this. Or you should
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come to salt. Or if you're in the one we took,
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like all the time. Oceanside, too. When I first
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started going there, I know there was a good
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amount of people that were staying there, members.
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But I think maybe this is just my view, but it
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looked like it was maybe 20 people in there.
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And sometimes that was the people that were serving
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too. Yeah. But we were at the tail end of COVID.
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Oh, yes. And then it started kind of growing.
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And then 2025. the growth was so much crazy we
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well we went to two services probably 24 25 something
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like that we finally went to two services and
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grew and grew and we fell both services so many
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times um now which is crazy now we're looking
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for a new building um we have i was gonna say
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a lot when i was there i was thinking y 'all
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are gonna need a new building soon yeah we're
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looking for one right now so yeah If anybody
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has a building they want to give away for free,
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I guess. Don't eat here. We would be very grateful.
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What else could we be? That would be it. What
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an amazing thing that would be. Is that the confirmation
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you need? I'm just kidding. No, but my church,
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they basically had that happen where someone
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just gave them the land and they started building
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on it. I'm not surprised. Yeah. So many times
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that we've been gifted plenty of things that
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have helped the church for sure. Yeah. There
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are so many times the church itself would not
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be able to continue without other people giving
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when they feel God calling them to give. Some
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people, that is their calling. Do you tithe right
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now? Oh, yes. Do you strictly only tithe to church
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or do you do additional tithes to nonprofits
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or the local? Even if I'm making the lowest amount
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or not even getting paid my checks when I'm supposed
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to be getting paid, 10 % is always. That's a
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non -negotiable. My parents were very good about
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showing us how to do that early on. You give
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10, you'll do more with your 90 than your 100.
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Yeah, that's so true. So you're tied. That's
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important. As far as charities and everything,
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there are... Most of the time I was giving to
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one. As of right now, there's none that I am
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specifically giving to. Oceanside is doing, they
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always have something going on, but I can't say
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that I have anything going on with those either.
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But Urban Impact, I think it's called Urban Impact,
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was one that I was dealing with as of the longest
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period of time. What do they do? I got to remember,
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but you remember Zachary McClellan? Yeah. Him
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and his wife. used to deal with that ministry.
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Oh. And it was, I believe, it all went to kids,
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helping kids. And I need to look back at it,
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but it's a great one. And when I was with AMN,
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they would double whatever I would give to them,
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which was really nice too. Hold on. Can I look
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it up? Yeah. Okay. Because right now I tithe
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to church every time I get paid, but then. I
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take my tips separately and I give 10 % of my
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tips to Eden Village, which is like a homeless
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community where they build homes for like the
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displaced. And they help them build their own
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home. They don't just give them one, which is
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cool. And then I go and I volunteer there too.
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But I was just curious if you only did one or
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if you. tried to do both yeah i'm i'm a little
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hesitant this isn't i'm a little hesitant with
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many charities because there are a lot of people
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doing things with charities saying it's going
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towards people that it's not and i think this
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is one of the things going back to what we're
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talking about do your research yeah make sure
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these people are actually giving their money
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to where they're supposed where they're saying
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they're giving them your money to or whoever's
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money When I didn't have a church to go to, I
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was still tithing 10%, so I would give it to
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the charities or churches in that area because
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it's still God's money. It's not my money. I
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would do it as if I could give it to a charity
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like Urban Impact. What they do is changing lives,
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one person, one family, one block at a time.
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So what they do is they reach youth on the north
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side of Pittsburgh through programs like athletics,
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education, performing arts, and options. So the
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kids can go do things after school, during school,
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like all times. They have stuff going on for
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them. But ministry is there. The reason I decided
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to give to that one, and I'm sure people could
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argue there are better ones, is because I knew
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that money was going to take care of those kids.
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I knew that money. was there taking care of people
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that I knew were biblically sound and that were
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passionate for God's word, were passionate for
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his ministry. So I chose that ministry. If I
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could look at other ones and know that it was
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like that. I would be more than happy to donate
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there. But unless God is telling me without me
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researching, oh, you need to give money right
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now to this one, then you're not going to catch
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me doing that because I think he's a logical
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God. And if he tells you to do something, obviously
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do it. But if he's not telling you to do it,
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he probably wants you to make an educated decision.
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He's a very educated God. He's an all -knowing
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God. He's an all -knowing God. I was going to
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say, I don't know if logical would always be
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the first thing I would use to describe God,
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but all -knowing is definitely the word I would
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use. He is a factual God, I would say. No, it's
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going back to just really quickly, yeah, you
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need to do your research when it comes to charities
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and the word of God. I'm sick and tired of people
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saying, posting things, and it's like the Bible
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says this, but it doesn't. Okay. Let's say you
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pull a verse. Context, please. You can't just
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pull a verse and say this is what God says. Yeah.
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Oh, it pisses me off. It's also the context of
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who are they writing to? Not just this verse.
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Read the chapter. Yeah. What's the history? Why
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did Peter write this to somebody? And then what
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was going on at that time in the church? Was
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he telling people to be quiet for their safety?
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Was he telling, you know, there's so much more.
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There's so much. People are tainting it to what
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they want it to be. It drives me. And understand,
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freaking do your research. I'm so sorry. That
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drives me crazy. is the whole they just take
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out a context or they don't know the context
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or the history behind why like the letters it's
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always it always comes back to the letters i'm
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like do you not understand at that historical
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moment something was happening and they asked
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paul or they asked whoever to write a letter
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so he did to deal with that situation because
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someone was sleeping with their mother yeah do
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you eat do you really also also can we also say
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i think it's funny that we get passionate about
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this we don't actually talk to people like how
22:08
dare you you idiot yeah wait sorry excuse wait
22:11
sorry how dare you you dummy you idiot um i was
22:16
gonna say just because there is a story in the
22:22
bible of someone doing something like having
22:26
many wives doesn't mean it wasn't right just
22:28
because god didn't step in on every single person
22:31
yeah and go how dare you doesn't mean it was
22:34
right just like you have free will god gave you
22:37
free will he told you what was right or wrong
22:39
now it's your choice to do that there are some
22:41
people of course he chose to discipline publicly
22:44
while other people chose to sin and they would
22:46
have had their own private yes but just because
22:51
something was a story was told in the bible doesn't
22:54
mean all the time that you can just have five
22:57
wives because oh they did it they did it here
23:00
well maybe look at what god said first yeah god
23:03
says just because they did it and they weren't
23:04
struck down doesn't mean they were right and
23:06
okay yeah or people like to talk about um sorry
23:10
for anyone listening and this is graphic but
23:12
like in judges when the one guy kicked his concubine
23:16
out and she was sexually assaulted by the whole
23:18
town to the point where she died um and people
23:22
like to use it as an excuse they're like well
23:24
the bible permitted permits essay i'm like no
23:27
it actually doesn't that was like showing the
23:29
history of when israel was walking without god
23:32
because they had judges god was not with them
23:35
god was not walking with them that's the whole
23:38
point or like There was a reason that they got
23:40
destroyed. Believe it or not, not someone personally,
23:43
but I was TikTok because I'm chronically online.
23:45
Someone was trying to defend incest. And they
23:48
were like, well, Lot's daughter slept with him
23:49
to reproduce. And I'm like, that's what we're
23:51
going with? Lot's two daughters? Who had nations
23:56
that were also so incredibly heathenous. Yes.
23:59
I'm like, that's great. Let's totally go with
24:02
that. I don't know. It's just that... Those ones
24:06
are hard sometimes. You watch that and you're
24:08
like, how could that be okay or allowed? Or how
24:11
could Lot do that? Yeah. But I think some people
24:13
need to realize that Lot was not saved because
24:16
he was like... He also was drunk at the time
24:20
when his daughter was... Well, Lot was... They...
24:23
saved him because of abraham yes abraham was
24:26
asked him to see yes because of abraham's relationship
24:29
with god lot was saved not because lot had a
24:32
great relationship with god that doesn't say
24:34
they had a great relationship with god no his
24:36
actions would actually show that he probably
24:38
did not have a great relationship with god if
24:40
he found 10 men that were christians they would
24:44
have sodom and gomorrah would not have had to
24:46
perish lots house to think that not even have
24:49
servants up to that point you know not even christians
24:53
righteous it didn't was even like you abraham
24:55
said god if you have 10 people that know you
24:59
and love you and save them he said someone righteous
25:01
righteousness does not have to do with knowing
25:04
god this is also a good opportunity to say your
25:07
relationship with god can change other people's
25:10
lives oh well it's not all the time it's relationship
25:12
with abraham because if abraham's relationship
25:15
with god lot had a chance to continue living
25:20
and change change his life you can't say that
25:24
he did we don't know crap i don't know a lot
25:27
lot about lot i know enough about lot to be like
25:29
he was not he wasn't saved because of his righteousness
25:33
that's yeah yeah but my favorite thing what i'm
25:37
doing one of the things i'm doing in the bible
25:39
right now is all my highlighters mean a different
25:42
mean a different thing each color and yellow
25:45
is like a promise from god so every time god
25:48
makes a promise or declares something then i
25:51
highlight it in yellow so that because then you
25:54
always see it come to fruition i've always always
25:58
always seen it come through like i just finished
26:00
isaiah this morning But even when you were doing
26:03
worship practice Sunday morning, I was going
26:05
through Isaiah. There was like 10 verses in a
26:08
row. I was just highlighting all yellow. And
26:10
one of your friends snuck up on me and they're
26:11
like, hey. And I was like, I look like I'm just
26:12
coloring my Bible yellow. if you don't know what
26:16
i'm doing i'm just it's the sunshine um but it
26:18
was because it was just a big long promise of
26:22
god talking about how he was going to come and
26:24
save not just his nation but all the nations
26:26
and jesus and blah blah blah it was very descriptive
26:28
and i was like oh yellow because jesus comes
26:31
in a couple books later a couple books later
26:33
um and it's been cool to see like god's he is
26:37
he's a planner too like he makes a promise he's
26:39
very logistic with it and then he falls through
26:44
yeah yeah um all right well that's kind of it
26:48
wait let's see let's see i want to see what question
26:51
i have for you oh give me a question okay um
26:54
have you do you feel like you've seen god move
26:57
in any way this week after come to florida i
27:01
don't mean no listen i mean like anything recent
27:05
that comes to mind you're like oh yeah this is
27:07
a god move not i'm not talking about my call
27:11
to saying that you're called to be here in florida
27:13
and i rarely say that kind of stuff yeah one
27:15
yes i know but uh i was gonna say i mean yourself
27:21
you come here and you're like yeah this is a
27:24
god thing i I wouldn't say a God thing. I would
27:29
say I got a lot of clarity this week, if that
27:32
helps. One of those things being that I really,
27:37
really, really love where I work and that I really,
27:41
really, really love where I have my church and
27:44
like my church at home. Like I'm very, very clear
27:47
on that. But that it felt very solidified for
27:51
me that I'm not meant to be in Wilmington long
27:53
term. where I'm meant to be I'm unsure but like
27:58
even walking this morning I walked to the beach
28:00
and then I walked up and I got Chick -fil -a
28:03
and then from Chick -fil -a I walked over to
28:05
Whole Foods and I bought the stuff and then I
28:06
walked over and I was like wow this is so nice
28:09
this feels this feels like California I'm just
28:12
gonna interrupt you right there I can't you're
28:15
you're baiting me but continue but then I was
28:19
like you know I'm making the pasta or whatever
28:21
I'm like I can't wait for Serena to get home
28:23
and I was like standing in your kitchen, like
28:26
looking into your living room. And I was like,
28:30
wow, like this feels kind of homey. Like, could
28:33
I see myself looking at this view? Yes. I'll
28:36
answer for you. And the answer was yes. But then
28:39
I thought, okay, I really wouldn't, I would really
28:42
need to pray a lot more about it. But I would
28:43
say I got a lot of clarity on what I do love,
28:45
which is I love my church. I'm so thankful for
28:48
my church. I wish I could pack them all up and
28:50
bring them with me wherever I go. And same thing
28:53
with my job. But I think what I'll say I got
28:58
clarity on is community. And I love, this is
29:03
so much shade. I feel bad. I love the friends
29:05
I have in Wilmington, but I don't have any like
29:07
God, like hardcore running after friends that
29:12
are girls. And every time I'm with you, it reminds
29:15
me how much I miss that because Cassidy was that
29:17
and she moved and McKenna was that and she moved.
29:20
And so. Losing just those two people has made
29:24
being in Wilmington a lot harder because my other
29:25
friends that I love that have a relationship
29:28
with Jesus aren't running and aren't in. haven't
29:32
picked up like the gauntlet to run with I guess
29:34
and I know sometimes they like even say like
29:36
you're a little serious about this like they
29:38
have said they're like we love you we love your
29:40
post but you do come off like really serious
29:42
about so serious but yeah yeah I'm like but I
29:46
want you guys to be like I won't call me and
29:48
be like oh my gosh guess what Jesus did in my
29:49
life yeah today or what happened but I would
29:52
call you and you would be equally excited um
29:54
so like that I had a lot of clarity I would say
29:57
while I've been here Let me tell you, and I don't
30:00
mean this in any trying to persuade way, but
30:03
first I will say I told you that this area was
30:06
going to give you a little reminder of California.
30:08
And I also told you that this area is so nice.
30:11
The way that you can walk over, and I knew you
30:13
were going to love that so much is in this walking
30:17
distance. You've had my car one time this entire
30:20
time you've been here, and you've just walked
30:21
places. You bought your stuff from Whole Foods.
30:24
Trader Joe's is right there. Plenty of restaurants.
30:28
publics. So we're pretty freaking set. It's awesome.
30:31
Also. Okay. And then, um, the second thing is
30:34
sometimes I realized this week, I'm like, I feel
30:37
so happy, like extra joyful, just almost like
30:41
a calm and a wittiness that has come back that
30:45
not saying that I don't have that. I love the
30:48
relationship I have with has so many people here,
30:50
but I came to realize I was in my room earlier.
30:52
I was like, this is, I think this is cause Hannah's
30:54
here because I, There is such a banter that comes
30:58
with us and a familiarity. But even with my friends,
31:02
it was when I was at work, I was like, why am
31:05
I? The way that I was reacting to people is how
31:08
I would in the beginning when you first are with
31:10
them. And there's almost like this excitement
31:12
there. I wasn't even excited. It's not they were
31:14
doing anything exciting, but I just felt like
31:17
exciting again. Yeah. But that kind of comes
31:20
with really great friendships. Yeah, it does.
31:22
I love my friendships here. But all of us right
31:25
now, a lot of my friends, we have so much going
31:27
on in our lives. So we're not all that. But you
31:29
and I have known each other for so long. So long.
31:31
Even when we're crazy in life. there's still
31:34
that feeling when you're around each other. We
31:36
always pick up where we left off. And I think
31:38
it's very comforting for me to have that. Proximity
31:41
with me. And we're not really talking too much
31:43
or we don't like, it's not like we're doing anything.
31:46
I still, it's like this comfort and a peace and
31:48
a relaxation. I slept the last couple of nights
31:51
where I would usually be so exhausted. And I
31:55
feel like as the nights have gone on, it's almost
31:58
been like more peace. And I don't know if it's,
31:59
you know, you have good relationships around
32:01
you. It makes a big difference. It does. It makes
32:04
a big difference. I think that if you did live
32:06
here, being around someone that loves God so
32:14
much is an encouragement for you. It is. To continue
32:18
to do that. It's like a mirror that you need
32:20
to look at. And sometimes when you don't have
32:22
that encouragement or someone walking with you
32:24
doing that, it makes it harder. Yeah. My friends
32:27
do it. Obviously, Hugo does it. It's not like
32:29
they don't. But when you're with somebody. Yeah.
32:32
They're so close to you. They're in that room
32:34
right there. And that's how they're living their
32:35
life. It's such an encouragement that you can
32:37
do it too. I think too, for me. I, the last time
32:42
I lived with someone that was like that was besides
32:44
when you would come out to California and stay
32:46
with me for a long time, was with Caitlin Phillips.
32:49
And now where I'm at, I think I'm, I know so
32:54
many people are going to hear this, their feelings
32:55
are going to be hurt, but I'm almost spiritually
32:57
exhausted because I'm constantly, first off.
33:02
It's been hard because keeping yourself, because
33:04
what I'm about to say is going to sound so prideful
33:06
and trust me, I know, but keeping yourself humble
33:08
when you're in this situation is hard. When you
33:10
are the wisest person in the room, when it comes
33:13
to biblical things and Jesus, and you're always
33:17
giving wisdom out and you're always, always,
33:18
always giving wisdom out with sound as biblical
33:21
proof, but then no one can do it for you. It's
33:24
hard. Okay. It is so hard. And that's why I enjoy
33:27
spending time with you because you will clock
33:30
me. Like even last night, like we don't fully
33:32
agree on things based on the conversation we
33:34
were having and that's okay. But we both had
33:38
our own biblical verses that we go off of and
33:41
that's fine. But somebody else would never do
33:43
that with me. Like everybody else would be like,
33:44
oh, I see the verses that you're pulling. Okay,
33:46
cool. I agree with you now. And it's hard. And
33:50
it's been hard for me to stay humble because
33:52
I'm the wisest person in the room. And that's
33:55
hard, keeping yourself humble. And it becomes
33:57
self -righteous. It just has a hole. beg God
34:01
in my prayers every day like I'm not even asking
34:03
for things except for keep me humble keep me
34:05
humble don't let me get prideful keep me humble
34:06
because it's exhausting to be that person as
34:09
I've we talked about the other day this reminds
34:11
me of just like we grew up asking a lot of questions
34:14
yeah our families encourage us to ask questions
34:17
they ask questions of us so it was very common
34:19
for and it's not like anyone's fault that they
34:22
don't know the same stuff I think if you have
34:24
a fire for the Lord that's what matters first
34:26
yeah and then progressing through that not knowing
34:29
the most but it does make a difference when there's
34:32
someone else that can go back and forth yeah
34:35
someone there are a few people at my church that
34:37
are so nice to talk to because because of that
34:42
reason one of them actually who's really nice
34:46
to talk to about this kind of stuff is caleb
34:47
him uh and he always has seems to really dig
34:54
in recently um there's been other people that
34:57
they're just digging in so much more now and
35:00
you can see yeah that fruit coming out but it's
35:04
really encouraged to get to know it some of the
35:06
girls are you can see yeah since i've been there
35:09
for the last three years you can see the knowledge
35:11
that they've gotten from there they had a relationship
35:13
they had like a base relationship with like that
35:15
knowledge of doing yeah but you're very much
35:17
right without having like i would i would say
35:21
even last night at the bonfire they were talking
35:23
about spiritual warfare And I don't know if you
35:27
know this, like, is everything okay? Yeah, no,
35:30
he just asked. He asked if I was okay. I just
35:33
haven't answered because I don't want to, like,
35:34
you know, we're in this. I want to answer now.
35:36
I was eavesdropping on their conversation because
35:38
I don't know if you know this, but I, like, did
35:39
a whole deep dive episode on spiritual warfare
35:42
because of my family's history and all that.
35:45
And it was funny because I, like, caught them
35:47
catching themselves. They were like, well, like.
35:49
He can possess you. Well, he can't possess you,
35:51
but he can put oppression on you. They're a prime
35:53
example of people that are digging in. And I
35:55
loved it. And the only thing I was going to say
35:58
that I didn't correct them on, because I knew
36:00
they don't know me, so I was going to be like,
36:02
oh, you're wrong on this, is they kept saying
36:04
he and speaking about the devil himself coming
36:08
to it. They were like, the devil can oppress
36:11
you. That's just the bit I heard. And I want
36:15
to say when it comes to that, yes, but no. Because
36:18
the devil can oppress you, but why would he choose
36:22
you? He's not omnipresent. He's not omniscient.
36:25
I can't speak anymore. You know what I'm saying?
36:27
Like, he's one. He's one. God is. And when they
36:32
do that, when people, this gets me, and again,
36:34
I did a whole episode on it because it's one
36:36
of those things that gets me. When people put
36:37
the devil on Jesus' or God's level, thinking
36:40
he's all over, he's one thing, he's not. He can
36:43
focus on you or he can focus on me. Guess what,
36:46
baby girl? He can't focus on both of us. preach
36:48
oh my what a thing to learn tonight but i never
36:51
even thought about that and so i like and i loved
36:53
listening to them have that conversation it was
36:56
like very life -giving so i was eavesdropping
36:58
you should have said that they would love that
36:59
i well i didn't know your friends and i was trying
37:02
to be respectful of beliefs or thoughts or all
37:06
that but anyways like he can definitely send
37:08
one a minion can be watching the devil the spirits
37:11
not the devils the spirits do watch they're on
37:13
this world they're roaming they're aware they
37:16
can hear everything they're taking clock they're
37:19
clocking your patterns absolutely one of them
37:22
can target you one of them the likelihood of
37:25
the devil watching you me and uncle bob down
37:27
the road not happening and the likelihood of
37:30
the devil thinking i'm important enough to come
37:33
for by himself no yeah he could but they're probably
37:36
not coming in after me what a great but still
37:39
so anyways but i love to see them like have that
37:42
conversation because those conversations do not
37:45
happen where i am i'm the one having the conversation
37:47
and everyone's like wow that's crazy that you
37:50
thought about that and you do and i'm like can
37:52
someone someone challenge me please like give
37:55
me a deeper dive i'll say my mom pamela is amazing
37:57
for that me and pamela we go on our eight mile
38:00
walks and it's all we talk about is whatever's
38:02
going on biblically or spiritually but outside
38:04
of she's she's moving yeah you're leaving me
38:07
and i'm pissed that's funny yeah the uh yeah
38:12
i would say that that is the case i would say
38:14
being at oceanside they have challenged me in
38:16
other ways like and i've challenged them because
38:18
because we did grow up different you know there's
38:20
that but i am 100 behind oceanside and um and
38:26
just 100 behind them kind of thing support but
38:31
what was i gonna say oh you're i'm sorry but
38:33
i need to return back to the devil thing because
38:36
What a great point. Everyone always, a lot of
38:38
people, we would talk about how people talk too
38:39
much about the devil. They gave him too much
38:41
power. But this is Jesus. He is stronger. But
38:44
what even greater point is that he is not omnipresent.
38:48
Yeah. I don't think people even think of that.
38:50
It's not even something that's, I've never heard
38:52
that said before. But what clarity that is. Holy
38:56
moly. And do you need backup on that? I don't
38:59
need backup. That's, yeah, actually, obviously.
39:00
But Joe, think about Joe. I was thinking. about
39:03
how you said this. And when God called them and
39:06
the sons of man and the devil, Satan comes to
39:08
God and he's like, Satan, where have you been?
39:10
He's like, here and there. I've been here on
39:12
the earth. I've been there on the earth. I've
39:13
just been hanging out. Yeah. He can't be on the
39:16
earth and talking to God. Yeah. He got one option.
39:19
Yeah. And he wasn't saying, I'm all over the
39:21
earth roaming. He was just like, I've been here.
39:23
I've been watching you. I've been doing this.
39:24
But he could only do one thing at a time. Yeah.
39:27
I just thought it was funny because you said
39:28
that because literally when you were talking,
39:30
I was like, I... I see what you're saying and
39:32
I joke. The first example I thought of. So anyways.
39:39
I don't have to deal with that same thing of
39:41
feeling I'm the smartest one in the room. I feel
39:43
like there's so many people. I cannot say that
39:46
always or about all things. And there were plenty
39:49
of times where I felt like the same on there,
39:50
especially since there wasn't much challenge
39:53
there. There were times where Kate and I, my
39:55
younger sister and I, would go to a Bible study.
40:00
And we're like asking and challenging. And a
40:02
lot of people take offense to that too. They
40:03
do. And it's not that we, we're trying to fight
40:05
them. We just, they're just questions. We just,
40:08
we really are just, we want to know the truth.
40:11
We're eager for the truth and we want you to
40:13
know the truth. There's no, we're not trying
40:16
to fight anyone on what's, what, um, argue with
40:20
them and be like, how dare you? We're not trying
40:22
to say we're a bad Christian. Yeah, no, not at
40:24
all. But I can say here I've been challenged
40:27
only because there are so many times where people
40:29
bring up new subjects, things I haven't touched
40:32
yet. But they're eager as well. They may not
40:36
have grown up in the same household where they
40:38
had the same basic foundation, which I was graced
40:41
with. But that also gives them their own unique
40:45
perspective. And I would say this, Jesus was
40:49
challenged and Jesus challenged. Why would we
40:52
not? Yeah. You know, Paul challenged people all
40:55
the time and he was challenged. Like, why would
40:59
we not? Yeah. You know, we did a thing at one
41:03
of my kinships, which is like the name of a small
41:04
group at my church. And it was one of my first
41:06
ones. And the leader angel. Amazing. Oh, my gosh.
41:09
The way that this man's brain takes and keeps
41:12
information. He knows everything about the old
41:14
church. I'm talking like when the church very
41:16
much started. I'm talking even with 1600, 1200.
41:20
He knows it. about the beginning of the church.
41:22
Crazy. Love how his brain works. His wife's the
41:26
same way. And they love to be challenged. They're
41:27
like, if we say heresy, call us out. If we say
41:31
something that you don't believe is biblical,
41:33
call us out. I love it. Best leaders. And I would
41:37
say that's a big reason why I stayed. But we
41:38
did this challenge where it was like, okay, he
41:40
asked a number of questions. And one was like,
41:42
is love a feeling or an action? And I was the
41:48
only person to choose feeling. so i sat on the
41:51
sofa and it was like 15 people against me and
41:54
he said all right like make your argument and
41:57
i said well god so loved the world that he sent
42:01
it was like he so loved that was first love was
42:04
first the feeling of love was first that he then
42:06
sent his only son good point yeah and every and
42:11
then like three people came and sat down next
42:12
to me and he was like okay keep going so like
42:15
i gave a few more answers and then it was like
42:16
none of the women i felt kind of attacked but
42:19
another woman spoke up on the other side it was
42:21
only men that like refuted me and i was like
42:24
standing my ground at one point i looked at the
42:25
three men that came to sit with me like do one
42:27
of y 'all want to talk like i'm a girl and i'm
42:29
over here defending the whole sofa now that i
42:31
convinced you guys over to but it was fun to
42:33
see like people's beliefs and watch them challenge
42:36
themselves and like form an opinion and stand
42:39
on it yeah it is is something we are called to
42:43
do and this is where like we grew up friday night
42:46
life yeah it's apologetic yeah the basics of
42:49
those which is actually hard to introduce to
42:52
people sometimes but uh defending our faith peter
42:55
tells us like this is something that we are called
42:58
to do not for just others but for ourself and
43:02
for our neighbors yeah so i'd say that yeah that's
43:05
that's very valid I'm just thinking about watching
43:08
you in that situation. And that is a really good
43:11
point as well, that God so loved the world. You
43:15
don't think it's an action as well? No, I think
43:17
it's an action as well. He said if you had to
43:21
stand on, love is a feeling or an action. So
43:26
starting with one to the other. Which are you
43:28
going to choose? And I said, I would stand on
43:30
feeling. Because feeling can create action. Action
43:34
very rarely will create feeling. But actually,
43:38
what you're saying makes a lot of sense. Because
43:41
a lot of times, I would have probably started
43:43
on the action side, to be honest. When you think
43:46
about marriage, love is continuing to do the
43:50
actions of marriage, even when you're not happy.
43:54
Yeah. Even when you're those, but God loved us
43:56
so much, even when he was angry with us. So he
44:00
wasn't always like, you know, but he loved us.
44:03
Yeah. Which would be a feeling, feeling that
44:05
he did continue to keep his promises. He acted.
44:09
So yeah, I would say that that's. yeah sounds
44:14
about right i'm gonna have to look at that one
44:16
too i mean he asked us five questions and if
44:20
you want to know whose team ended up winning
44:22
the debate i don't i don't need to know i already
44:24
know And to this day, they're still holding it
44:27
against me. Everyone's like, and then she said
44:29
this. And I'm like, but you know, then you're
44:31
like later on in the car, you're like, I should
44:33
have brought up this first too. Because then
44:36
you look into it and be like, oh my gosh, you're
44:37
so much more superior than what I was saying.
44:42
And Caitlin, my roommate, looked at me and she's
44:43
like, the second I saw you sit on that sofa,
44:45
I thought I should trade sides. That's crazy.
44:48
Honestly, that is true. Because as I told you,
44:51
even the last year. or two you can see your knowledge
44:55
has changed a lot yeah in the word where you've
44:57
dived in deeply and i think it's so funny you
45:00
say that because i feel like it's i've always
45:04
been this way in the sense of i've always known
45:07
the word i've always studied the word i think
45:09
that the word gets we the bible is a living book
45:14
so it's always changing for us so i think that
45:16
and you know what it is i'm gonna tell you right
45:18
now i knew i was doing this podcast i knew it
45:22
And so I had to be more vocal about it because
45:23
I've always had the thoughts. I've always had
45:26
the feelings and I've always had the motivation,
45:28
but I've never been so vocal about those thoughts
45:30
and opinions and feelings. And I've always been
45:33
like more of a, because I was raised to be this
45:35
way, to sit back and let others talk until asked.
45:39
And now I no longer sit back and wait. I now
45:43
just like speak my knowledge on what I know.
45:46
But I felt like I had to earn that. I will be
45:48
honest. Like I have to even now when people ask
45:50
me, like, how do you know that? I was like, well,
45:51
when I went to seminary school, I studied under
45:53
this guy and he made me read this book. And then
45:55
I developed this and I spoke to, like, I feel
45:57
like I've had to earn that right to be able to
45:59
speak on that. Well, even when you went to seminary,
46:01
there are plenty of times where we talked about
46:03
stuff. We'd be like, well, I went to seminary.
46:04
I would know. I was like, yeah, I was like that.
46:09
That doesn't make it. That doesn't always make
46:11
it true. But it's not like that anymore. I don't
46:15
know how to. fully explain to what extent i can
46:18
a i can see not just the confidence because you
46:21
always had confidence and surety but your ability
46:27
to back it up i think being able to back it up
46:30
with the word and actually say the word to me
46:32
is a hammer in the coffin to me every time that
46:36
you have a point and you can point to the gospel
46:38
and you say this is why this is the case i mean
46:41
i will say that's true i used to talk about like
46:45
Others wouldn't know this story, but like that.
46:47
economics of it all when it came to the Bible
46:49
I'd be like well if you go back to this person
46:51
and then you do I'd always talk about like if
46:53
you go back to this and this and this and the
46:54
understanding and then the description of this
46:56
versus being like well the Bible says this and
46:57
this is what now I'm like this is what the Greek
47:00
word means and this is what the Hebrew word means
47:01
and if you bring it to this and you know so I
47:04
will say I have developed more in that way versus
47:06
knowing like the facts and history of it all
47:08
I've been doing a more understanding of the languages
47:10
because history is fantastic but they are people
47:13
and so they're going to have their wrongs even
47:15
back in history like the word of God is always
47:18
true. God forbid if someone wrote a Bible book
47:21
on me, that would be so embarrassing. Lordy,
47:24
how would that even work? I would be so embarrassed
47:26
if they were like, you know. back then and they
47:30
were like, this is Hannah Drain's life and this
47:32
is how she lived her God. Blah, blah, blah. This
47:34
is what God said through her. I'd be like, that's
47:36
crazy. I would be like, she was, she was, you
47:39
know how they did it where it goes, she was the
47:41
first woman to have a radio station. Yeah. She
47:44
had her own podcast back in the day when those
47:46
were a thing. Yeah, literally. But every, even
47:49
since we were younger, we've, we've had argument,
47:52
like arguments and stuff. Madison Shambly. Well,
47:56
there are times now where I'll be like, need
47:58
to i know how deep our stuff can go yeah so sometimes
48:03
it's like well do we want it to go that deep
48:05
first yeah sometimes i have to like stop because
48:08
i know i'm like we're gonna be here till 2 a
48:10
.m because we will go into it yes or number two
48:12
she's not gonna agree with me on this and this
48:14
will be a debate like we're gonna forever debate
48:17
and when we debate like we both want to know
48:20
why the other person yeah this because we want
48:22
to understand and i think that's fantastic but
48:26
uh now more than then more than then i feel like
48:32
it's a different playing field you it's like
48:36
you've stepped up a little bit into the field
48:38
and not that that's a playing field but you know
48:41
what i mean and able to communicate it so much
48:46
smoother and clearer yeah it's respectable i
48:49
love it i love seeing you i just love seeing
48:51
your love for jesus grow i feel like i watched
48:54
you go from like religion to relationship i would
48:58
100 agree and that's been like i was even talking
49:00
about that my mom brought it up she's like i
49:02
really feel like we've watched serena switch
49:03
with like being like god to jesus and god and
49:07
then jesus got in the holy spirit and i was like
49:09
you know pamela like you're so right like we
49:11
have and it's been so cool to yeah so you make
49:14
that transition yeah i couldn't be more happy
49:17
about it you don't even realize it honestly until
49:21
it happens sometimes like you don't know what
49:25
you're missing yeah until you're in it you don't
49:28
and you can watch other christians sometimes
49:30
and there's so much in the because you have the
49:34
knowledge doesn't always mean you have everything
49:38
the knowledge isn't god oh no sorry sorry sorry
49:40
yeah um some people idolize knowing more yeah
49:46
like facts yeah and think that that's the relationship
49:50
There are plenty of Christians that were strong
49:53
fighters for the word because they knew they
49:58
didn't know it. They didn't know it like they
50:01
know God had a relationship with them. They just
50:03
could read the words and they can rehearse the
50:07
word to become atheists and atheists that become
50:10
Christians because there is something that happens
50:13
with a relationship. It does. It changes a lot.
50:15
Yeah. And it brings different kinds of. understanding
50:18
that you would never imagine that is very hard
50:22
to come by without a relationship with god it
50:23
is in my opinion my personal experience yeah
50:26
yeah i think that you have to have relationship
50:28
because again it's a little it's a living book
50:30
so you it'd be like reading a journal from a
50:33
stranger versus reading your best friend's journal
50:35
yeah in my opinion like you would get a lot more
50:38
i would get a lot more from reading your personal
50:40
journal than like your roommates oh yeah right
50:45
you're gonna be like so that's so yeah like me
50:48
going through your car earlier being like yes
50:51
let's let's hear i want to hear the other items
50:53
that you pulled okay so wait i found in in your
50:56
car i found what was it the battleship and the
50:59
other games the ribbon pencils you have like
51:02
an absurd amount of pencils in your car that's
51:04
not even close to as much as used to be and they're
51:06
like the yellow number two ones where you have
51:08
to sharp it like what What are you doing with
51:11
those? Those are back when I had the van. My
51:15
whole console used to be full of notebooks and
51:17
pencils I never used. I don't remember why I
51:20
got the pencils. I had them for a reason. Did
51:22
you have a sharpener at one point? I have wrapped
51:24
presents on the go, so that has happened. Okay.
51:27
Sharpener. For the pencils? I don't know. I put
51:32
them in my hair sometimes, to be honest. I don't
51:33
remember all I did. I don't know why. And I think
51:36
I found a candle. That's possible. Yeah. Anyways,
51:41
I had an interesting time in your car. Yeah.
51:45
I think I'm still stuck on that van life where
51:48
you just kind of keep some odds and ends just
51:49
in case. Yeah. I have a hard time emptying my
51:53
car fully because of it. I just remember having
51:57
a dresser in my car and people needed stuff like,
52:00
I'm so cold or something. Do you need socks?
52:03
Do you need sweater? I have that in my car. I
52:05
have that in my van. I have pants in there right
52:07
now. No, it's okay. It's okay. And then they
52:08
say they need something else. Do you need this?
52:11
I have it in my van. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Oh
52:13
my gosh, Trina. I think you have everything in
52:14
your van. We're fine. I'm sorry. I just have
52:17
it in my van. Do you want me to host a game night
52:18
in my little car? I know, right? I can do that.
52:21
Battleship anyone? Yeah, right. Yeah. Anyways,
52:24
so yeah, that's what I found in your car. And
52:27
that's when I looked quickly. I'm sure if I looked
52:30
longer, I probably would have found more. I have
52:34
a lot in my glove department. No, that's where
52:36
I found the ribbon. Yeah, I know. And the candle.
52:39
Yeah. Yeah. And I didn't look past that. I was
52:42
like, oh, I'm pretty sure there was a candle
52:45
in there. Interesting. It looked like a candle.
52:48
Anyways. All right. Serena, thank you so much
52:51
for joining us. Thanks for having me. We'll be
52:52
doing this way more often next month. Yeah. When
52:55
she moves here. Oh. Yeah. Forward for at least
52:59
the next year. FYI, everybody. Say goodbye. I'm
53:04
just kidding. I'm kidding. Thank you.