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EL TREN DE LA VIDA 14-03-24 · EL TREN DE LA VIDA

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  Good morning, friends and friends, I am Julio Pérez and this is the
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  train of life, a radio adventure along the routes of the heart. I
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  want to invite you to travel with me and dream together in a better world,
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  a different world where men and women of good will can live in peace
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  and freedom. The train of life is a magaxine of good news and hope.
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  This is a radio time specially designed for people like you and like so
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  many truth seekers, of the only truth that can make us authentic free come
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  on, I invite you to travel with us on the safest train of all,
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  which will certainly take you to safe harbour. This is the train of
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  life. Or well, ask, well, very good morning Spain. Good
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  morning, friends, a good friend speaks to you, the old friend,
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  Julio Pérez. This week we are going on this Magaxin of good news and
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  hope for all men and women. You' re welcome to come with me.
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  Let' s go there now very good morning, dear friends, train
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  travelers of life. Here we are again, almost just a few days from
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  spring, that blood alters spring. Well, we' ll see what rains
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  are missing rains do to us and well, in the meantime, we'
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  ve barely had winter. We have had a spring winter, but well,
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  here we are this morning to enjoy the good company of good friends. Today
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  we have a fabulous quartet that will accompany us this week on the fast journey
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  of the train of life. It is the living parable, like life itself.
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  They always remember it, not and I remember them and I always hollowed
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  out, because thirty- two years ago Look it was for this time.
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  Just in the spring, in the spring of one thousand nine hundred and ninety
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  - two, we began with the train of life. Before I had started
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  a program that we had titled Gospel Sprint. It was about an hour'
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  s program a week. Sprint Evangelical was a news program and some other interview,
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  but the idea was born the train of life, a traveling train.
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  I really like the train. I' ve always liked the Mira train.
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  This month I have to travel between I have twice to Madrid, to the
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  Assembly it was fered one and the other to the Board of the Board of
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  Directors of Biblical Society, practically in these coming weeks. So, to enjoy
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  the train and I like it because they are fast trips and well, it
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  is always appetizing to read or have your laptop or your tablet or a coffee
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  and sometimes some conversation, talking a lot on the phone can not be eh
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  because it is interrupted easily. But well the train always tells us of that
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  living parable, of the life we go from here to there and the interesting
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  thing is to get to port. I' m sure that' s the
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  important thing. There are no trains, as we recalled last week in the
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  event since the 20th anniversary of 11 March, that fateful day, that wonderful
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  day for the whole Community of ours, for the country we completely broke our
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  hearts in half with so many almost two hundred deaths countless wounded by that savage
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  terrorist attack that we suffered. And well, here we are overcoming the vicissitudes
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  and contingencies, sometimes grave, of life. And we have to do it,
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  and we do it in the name of Jesus. The name ons Jesus
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  empowers us. The name of Jesus is the one who has changed our lives.
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  The name and person of Jesus is the one who has given us purpose
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  in life. And now we' re going this morning to have good friends,
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  look we have where the lyceum Vila. Don en el Liceo Vila is
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  the general director of Editorial Clie. He is currently the son of the founder
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  Don Samuel Vila, a real character. This year it celebrates Editorial Clie.
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  At this time a hundred years in the service of the evangelical people a thousand
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  nine hundred ninety- four, pardon a thousand nine hundred twenty- four,
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  exactly two thousand twenty- four. A hundred years later. There Clie continues
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  to publish or make publications of a very first level, of a commendable theological
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  and biblical height, for there we have them and we are going to interview
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  Don Eliseo Vila is old enough, but he is a man who has,
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  has hook, I believe he is, and we will talk about the story
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  of a hero of the faith as was Don Samuel life. We' ll
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  give a breviary about your life. Also his adventures an empire against a faith
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  that is a faith forgiveness against an empire. This would be the truth.
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  That is a book that was published and that editorial cry has echoed them very
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  deservedly, a faith against an empire that don Samuel Vila is the story of
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  this distinguished character and we will interview him in the first place, in prime
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  Time this morning, traveling on the train of life and then we will go
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  ahead and meet someone else. We' re meeting the biology doctor, Antonio
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  Cruz. We' re going to pick up a topic that we' ve
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  sometimes talked about with the piece of time we didn' t talk about this
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  from your book to God for DNA. It really is very important to propose
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  intelligent design people. Let' s talk a little bit about that in the
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  boz of a man as qualified as is Dr Don Antonio Cruz, doctor in
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  biology and also professor of Natural Sciences, prolific writer, magnificent, where they
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  are here in the train of life goodbye by and adn what intelligent design proposes.
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  Don' t miss it and in the third season we will meet Don
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  Daniel Gasoo, clinical psychologist, our good friend, telling us about the seasonal
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  changes and our moods look. Now we' re about to switch from winter
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  to spring and look at me personally I resent it a lot. There'
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  s something in my neurological system almost always from winter to spring and these days
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  I find myself a little strange. That is the case with States. He
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  also tells us about our moods and, obviously, everything that those transitional sensations
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  that we live in the seasons of the year Good and some practical applications for
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  life in the voice of clinical psychologist Daniel Gaso and finally, my good friend,
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  Dr Modesto Roca Bernabeu, doctor of family doctor, will tell us about
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  the different allergies and their possible treatments. Allergies begin the sacks and everything that
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  vibrates in terms of allergic susceptibilitys, because they begin to strengthen and act in
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  a direct way, because these days, especially these next weeks, already begin
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  the allergies that produce, since the sacks and the environment and many sensations that
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  there are in the environment, many elements that produce allergies and we will see,
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  we will treat it under the medical guide of Dr Modesto Roca. Well,
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  four is for chinos of the word we have here. Don Eliseo Villa,
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  Director General of Editorial Clie. Currently speaking of the hundred years of this
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  important ephemerides of editorial Clie also of Dr Antonio cluz talking to us goodbye by
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  DNA and some questions derived also the clinical psychologist Daniel Gaso, the changes of
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  season and our moods. And of course, because Dr Modesto Roca the different
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  allergies and their possible treatments. Well, what else do they want a good
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  radio menu for this morning? May I remind you that for any questions or
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  questions of interest you can write to Julio Pérez Arroba Onda Paz FM? I
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  tell you this because you can decide me Julio Pérez Arroba Onda peace FM?
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  But we' re going there, come with me, we' re going
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  to travel together. You can send your message through our Facebook. Through our
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  via Fabook. Thank me for all the things you' ve done for me,
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  things and deserved that we stop your love. The voices of a million
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  express the pleasure you are and the right good- bye is the clarian day
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  opens, Goodbye, Gloria, so sad with his rastres, he relieved me
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  of his hour. I have a healthy change serious for what sea Vid Mr
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  Rendida, always only you or when you come in nobreta, because diteto I
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  will be able to his sansante mine cleaned his power my healthy wandeos it is
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  acario not what ta oh meito are of Livia, his mesaron ce s l
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  ration, my project to study in truth, but his dreams, like those
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  of anyone, have no limits. Let' s not put them on us.
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  Integration is always the best response for the social inclusion of people with mental
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  health problems. Ministry of Health, Social Services for Equality of the Government of
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  Spain, the Traffic and Road Safety Act has changed. We changed the rules,
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  because the way we moved has also changed. Therefore, now the deadline
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  to recover the initial point jump is two years, without committing infringements that involve
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  the loss of new times points, new rules. General Traffic Directorate, Ministry
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  of the Interior, Government of Spanish. Never leave me alone in the bathtub
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  or places with water. Don' t let them emit luis fingers and linchufi.
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  Don' t leave me in the face of an open window. You
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  told her at my fingertips tissue substances or roads already let me swallow the small
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  pieces of toys. If you neglect, your ojer can be dangerous for your
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  children. Don' t neglect to avoid accidents. For what you want most
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  Ministry of Health and Consumer Affairs a Government of Spain, if you want to
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  visit our website Www. The train of life, of life to. Ladies
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  and gentlemen, we are already online Lisa for talking to Donriseo Villa, the
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  Director General of Editorial Clie, remembering and remembering the hundred years that this two
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  thousand twenty- four to one hundred years of history of the great history of
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  publishing click with really different titles and titles. I was trying to be good.
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  I remembered so many titles of Don Samuel Virano, religion within the reach
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  of the people, God by the atom and countless titles that were very didactic
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  by that time, those years that good, even the sociocultural level of Spain
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  was low, was low, and then, to explain the faith, to
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  explain arguments about evangelical faith and evangelical experience. And well, because he was
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  a forerunner, it was an advance of his epic, Don Samu Olvida,
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  who had to face the powers, also the social and political powers, which
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  evidently reduced to Protestantism, ostracism, to having neither us nor vote, of
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  course, until democracy came. Well, there we have Don Iliseo Villa,
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  who is with us. Good morning, Don Elisha, good morning, Jew,
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  listen well, we listen very well, thank God. How are you?
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  All right, thank God. It' s a few years ago that
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  I have and a body starts to have its weaknesses. But he tried by
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  all means and all forms, thank God or, sir, he' s
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  keeping me and I' m still working. My father worked until the last
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  day of his life and if the lord allows it and I think not to
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  abandon the snowy hand until Mr Bella sees his presence, for I am very
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  glad to see you on the ground, even though the years, for only
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  the years. But, well, that good spirit that you have infects us.
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  I congratulate you, Don Elisha A hundred years later, how many memories
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  of perseverance struggle for the creation of editorial clie in difficult years where hostility made,
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  among other things, towards Protestantism. Well, it was also years where,
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  obviously, the Republic was still in progress. Tell us some of those
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  memories from the past. Well, it was actually founded not in New Republic,
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  but before the repuge, before the Poli, nine hundred twenty- four,
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  in the time of Primo de Rivera, and it was founded on a
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  first book written by my own father, which was called to the sources of
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  Christianity, which is possible that many of the listeners still remember, because it
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  was a book that had a dramatic impact at that time. It was a
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  book of apomogetics, It was a po polemical book in which my father tried
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  to refute what the Catholic Church said, which treated us as a sect,
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  because they said that we had abandoned evangelical Protestant evangelicals, we had abandoned the
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  tradition of Gaignesia and the doctrine of the holy fathers. So, my father
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  made a rebrod where he said or the Catholic Church teaches on the page and
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  on the other page said or the Vivia says And behind or topped with a
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  few quotes from the church' s parents, supporting precisely what the Bible says
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  and or the Evangelical Church teaches? This, then, turned out to be
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  a tremendous book to the Episcopic Conference of Españoga published fourteen books trying to refute
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  the sources of a Christianity and then succeeded. It is because my father,
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  to quote Va Bivia, then to quote the quotations of you fathers of Vaihuesia,
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  told you look you will not be that those who have departed not only
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  from the Bible, but also from the doctrine of you holy fathers are not
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  us, but it is you who added times later things that neither the Bible
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  teaches nor the doctrine of the fathers of Baigüés is said and this is the
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  reason precisely for the quau form. After a hundred years we have remembered our
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  centenary publishing a peculia work. The patristic Bible, that is, the Bible
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  commented to that of the Holy Fathers with more than twelve my notes, transcribing
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  for each text, for each passage of Vadivia. Or that the parents of
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  Baiwes, as well as those who were in more direct contact with the apostles,
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  taught that we should have reference to what their doctrine was and to what
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  extent. Later, the church deviated from this same doctrine. This was the
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  first time I would speak to him as the foundational period. Then a second
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  epoch would be a time of how much destinity and persecution. This one I
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  did live on. I then came a time of camufuaje. IE was totally
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  banned, as all the evangelical institutions were left by winning the war in a
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  thousand nine hundred thirty- nine and saying that Spain was Catholic, Spain was
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  a unit of thought and there could only be open in Spain or foreign churches
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  for foreigners who made the points in foreign language, all the gesas were closed
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  and that remained in a destinite John. This was a very difficult time,
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  but my father started publishing already. I have had a continuity throughout all days
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  with printmakers friends in Barcelona, some of them went to jail or, spent
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  nights in the Calabozo printed at night the Gospel books. Some will remember these
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  printers Salvador Rano, they are already with the Lord and when this was not
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  possible. Years later, my father set up a printing press in his own
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  house completely camouflaged and during the day, as he worked for industries, card
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  paper and at night they used to print evangelical books. I remember inspection visits
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  and poetry records coming every two by three, and my mother told me they
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  were hiding your vibro panchas under my cradle. I was a few years old
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  and when the police came and I was sleeping in a vaccine and we gave
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  cops who were almost ashamed to have to go and search for evangelical books from
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  people who didn' t do any bau, who didn' t have any
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  ideology, not even politics, and have to go pick up the books.
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  They saw me sleeping in a vaccine and saying no. It doesn' t
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  fit, no, it wakes up a child and they leave and there were
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  the fantas of the books. It was very difficult this time. Then an
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  anecdote of a hymn by my father and a German missionary in Madrid, Juan
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  Fuener, came to the police and requisitioned the entire edition of imnaires, and
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  my father and Juan Fuener went to visit the comisariat to see that you see
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  that this book, that is and tells me no, no, this vibro
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  has to be destroyed because it is against two principles of national movement. Agarró
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  Emimnario opened by a famous hymn that is now no longer sung, but that
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  was sung in those times that you have. You were more than conquering.
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  It' s our currency. Out the second stanza and I told them look,
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  look what it says, look, it tells you here our wise leader
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  victorious and made binary what he didn' t hear in the village. And
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  the next that Okovario says and his triumph is seen but Mappi king, but
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  boy closed to Vibnalia And told me how you can say that Vibradio is against
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  the principles of movement and the Commissioner moved you all the hiccups dicetochts convinced that
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  it was so. Thus, with this picadesque one had to live until the
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  sixties. In the 1960s, I' d say it was a time of
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  camufuage. My father, with the printing press in his home, managed to
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  legalize your camouflage by changing a man, not as a Literature Committee for the
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  Evangémite Churches, as it was at the beginning, but changed two words with
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  the same acronyms, centered on Spanish books and thus managed to gavizar camufuada.
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  In the sixties up to one thousand nine hundred and seventy- nine, which
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  already with a new Constitution, with a much broader religious freedom bay, was
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  constituted as an internal non- vocrative religious entity of an interdenominational character and has
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  a governing board that is representative of every Spanish Protestant that is going to govern
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  today. How interesting we love to listen to him with such a descriptive and
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  passionate form of freedom of expression fighters and also of evangelical faith. But a
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  character like Don Samuel Vila, his father, a bold fighter good. There
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  are already slashes who was and how was Samuel Vila, but I remember one
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  of his books, among many, so prolific, a faith against an empire
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  not and truth the empire of the Catholic Church in total connivance, with the
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  caudillo under palio, not then national, the national Catholicism, then, of
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  course, evidently, the courage was amazing And how would I describe this good
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  fighter. My father, in fact, was born in Ruby, although many
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  years later the bayun also for being settled in Tarrasa, the Town Hall of
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  Tarrasa became adopted son of Tarrasa, but was born in Ruby in a prosperous
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  family of Rubí merchants treated, had shops, treated with wines, but he
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  wanted to dedicate his life to the Van Heavy Ministry. He was educated because
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  the family was already of evangelic origin. He was educated in the Methodist Vaigxa
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  of Rubí and at the Evangelical College of Rubí, which bado a Spanish pastor,
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  Francisco Aubricias, and he wanted to devote himself to the Gospel. There
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  were no seminars in Spain, there were no institutions and as a family,
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  because he had financial availability, he was able to study abroad at the stake
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  of Carlos Xpurson, the famous college of preachers, under the tutelage of a
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  man who had been a direct distype of spul John Messier Rubén Dubarri and when
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  he returned to Spain, already prepared for a ministry, he wanted to found
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  a church. My granny said it' s okay. I am going to
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  give you to merge a church, but not in Ruby, because in Ruby
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  there is already an evangelic church and at the moment, opening another church in
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  Ruby would be a Maut testimony. You can open the church because either in
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  San jugat or in Tarrasa and opened igia in Tarrasa, a church in Baquao.
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  They have known other churches in Tarrasa and my father began to open works
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  throughout Spain after bai Guerra. The story would be very long. Fifty-
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  two churches founded my father in Spain that currently constitute, or that is federaz
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  FIEIDE Federation Independents of Spain and Christ fifty- two bones. He was president
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  of the Evangelical Baptist Union in several years and at the same time said I
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  want to dedicate part of my life, apart from the pastoral ministry or to
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  that pastors, students, church leaders and a people in general have in Spanish
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  the same wealth of tools to study God' s work and prepare for a
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  ministry that I had discovered for him was the discovery in the immense libraries of
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  Sportney, pastors Covenge in Mondres. I had seen or wealth of books that
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  would be in English and said I' m going to dedicate part of my
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  life to these books being in Spanish. And so it began in the twenties,
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  the inhabitant of the twenties. Yes, yes, how interesting, but
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  he went to the sources of Christianity and then continued to publish books of apologetics,
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  calm proofs of the existence of God, a religion within reach of a
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  game that was a replica of. Rogelio Ibarreta was a man you had.
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  Yes, as you well said, he had many tremendous. I remember when
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  I was little, accompanying my father, the police station hours and hours and
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  hours to debate and my mother sent me together with my father because it said
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  good if at least one child is knocked out like they are not going to
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  stay a child. He brings me home and I' ll know they'
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  re staying like this. I raised him. The first day I went to
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  school, to school. My abueva told me boy. Remember that you'
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  re not like the others and that it sounds. That' s good,
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  the good woman. He wanted to tell me that, being a Protestant son
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  of a Protestant pastor in the shops. I' d be in a lot
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  of trouble and I was, I had a lot of trouble in schools,
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  but that' s how it was baboon and that' s how it was
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  to be killed. It was extraordinary, yes, it was. Look.
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  I had the privilege of church. He was one of the leaders of the
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  pastoral team, I, among others, at the Bethel Church in Barcelona in
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  the eighties, and I had the privilege of inviting him. I was in
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  charge of making the list of preachers and I talked to him and well,
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  he came with us twice to preach and I remember that in the previous,
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  well we sat down for coffee, good to chat. In fact and it
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  was warm and I said this man is a walking and good story and then
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  his preaching. Not that I had the pleasure of being able to meet him
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  and, in addition to inviting him to preach in our local church at that
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  time, in the eighties, here in Barcelona have been talked about the first
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  publications of Clip publishing, but how clie is editorial from one hundred years later,
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  in the Iseo Bueno Hey, my father will founded as an interdenomining publishing
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  house, and this I say to myself that in Latin America it sounds very
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  strange. I sometimes go to Latin America and when I tell them that on
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  the governing board of QE there is representation of every Spanish evangelical people, of
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  all the endings practically and that I sit on the governing board the directive of
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  Twie with the Anglican bishop. To the left and to the drecha, I
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  have a former president, American bishop, Carlos Lopez, and to the father
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  I have a former president of you to know, God, José María Baela
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  of Seville. In Latin America he kissed in the eyes like dishes, because
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  this is inconceivable there. There are still some rencones and divisions name very sad
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  birds. In Spain. Our history is different precisely because of the persecution we
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  have spoken of before. The angelic people always had to stick together in front
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  of a common enemy, who was the national cato saying. And this gave
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  rise to the Defense Commission. And this has given rise to the heredity where,
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  as you know, all the evangelical churches that exist in Spain united for
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  the same purpose are represented. This does not exist in Latin America, except
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  Latin America continues with an idea of denomination. Then my father will be founded
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  already in the year two thousand a twenty- four. Possibly by proceeding from
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  a Methodist formation in a Methodist school, go to a seminary such as Spurjun,
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  who was a cauvinist Baptist. This created an interdenominational sense for them and
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  I believe that to serve all denominations without exception to all the Christian people in
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  general. So there are times when I go to Latin America and I am
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  asked what is a confession of faith of yours, what denomination it belongs to,
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  what are your ideas. I tell you look at my I' m
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  going to tell you very easily the apostolic creed. This is the confession of
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  faith and it is contained in its statutes, because we consider these to be
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  the fundamental truths of our evangelical faith. From here on, any kind of
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  eschatological paradigm soteriological ethical schemes. These are very respectable issues and each denomination has
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  the right to have its own and defend them, but they are opposable.
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  The fundamental truths of the Gospel are more understood in the apostolic creed. Otherwise,
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  we publish public villa for all denominations. The author of each book is
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  responsible for the ideas of each book. Not us. We do not censor
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  or obstruct, as long as the book is within the fundamental truths of the
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  apostolic creed. Considered to be the reader of each denomination, of each Euquén
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  ideology lame. The book doesn' t spoil. Or I think you have
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  to see everything, because if you don' t see everything, you don
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  ' t know or what others think, and this is what creates the divisions
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  and barriers denomination. If we knew more how they thought, we would have
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  much more union, because we would know each other better and know each other
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  better, we would understand each other much more, because this is an ideology
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  of twilight. For the rest, how does it result well, hear this
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  rule, for it is a religious entity, governed, as I said,
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  by a governing board where they are representatives of different denominations and publishes for all
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  dimensions for the whole evangelical egg. Yes, how interesting to have the detail
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  inside indicate to us some of the most remarkable publications of publishing cía, some
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  among them. There are many there and I have always noticed, but over
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  the years it has acquired a notoriety because they are very relevant titles, topics
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  that are addressed rigorously and with a lot of depth of different authors, but
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  some that want to highlight of the publications. Well, I, more than
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  highlighting my energy, have published three five hundred different titles in the hundred years
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  that it has history. Waiting for titles would be complex, but I can
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  talk about trends and perhaps cite some titles in each trend, because our purpose,
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  since my father founded, has been to fill the needs of the Church
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  at every moment. As I said before, it was founded with a controversial
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  book to the sources or Christianity, because there was a reason to refute the
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  fact that evangelical Igüensia treated us and called us a sect. Then, this
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  was in the time of the Second Republic. This was before the Second Republic,
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  when football was to be taken care of to arrive in the Second Republic,
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  as the problem was already different. The problem was a growing atheism.
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  He was at the attacks on faith in we generated attacks on the existence of
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  God. Mathewism was forbade and my father, what he does, as he
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  begins to publish books to refute that replicates to Iubarreta a review. Roger Ibarreta
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  was a fabso writer or religion within reach of the puevo tangibes proofs of God
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  ' s existence, thinking and believing. Then, after the war that is
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  south, because the problem was already another pastors killed on the front, exiled
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  pastors imprisoned, closed churches. My father, with a ficustive, began to
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  distribute what was called the sermon by mail, because the congregations were distributed through
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  the houses preaching to a young man or who knew more about preaching, but
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  had no instruction for preaching. My father was mailing. That' s why
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  it was called a mail sermon. These leaves made with a psicuncture with a
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  sermon he had prepared and one in the congregation read this sermon for you believers
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  to be instructed. Then he began to publish some books for the formation of
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  pastors, Homemetics Manual, to teach young people to prepare sermons from heart to
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  heart, to teach selected sermons, to have different sermons, encyclopedia of anecdotes
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  for books already dedicated to training young people in the shepherding and so on he
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  advanced until already in time of freedom, they began to make larger books and
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  published a bibuic dictionary, new illustrated Bible dictionary that was for many years a
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  boom more intervinated Bible, the old intervinal testament and a new will intervened today.
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  And if it' s like we' re looking to shorten going to
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  the current era is covering more cool Gesia needs. What happens today, that
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  many young people go to universities encounter questions that they do not know how to
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  answer, many denominations and many pastors are still using nineteenth- century answers that
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  young people cannot present. In a university there is no training for this we
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  make books of apologetics, like the books of Dr Antonio cross one hundred questions
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  about God to current apogetics and books like dictionaries of animals of babibua, and
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  we try to touch on more current topics, such as, for example,
• 45:37
  the topic of va ecology. Now we are going to publish a book on
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  ecology or the responsibility of care that I want to believe in taking care of
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  God' s creation, books on a woman' s ministry. And we
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  have also entered the field of study vibrios, because today, because people like
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  to have all the text of the Bible with the study notes below. And
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  we try to make study bibles, different study bibles that provide a true content
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  with twelve, fifteen zero notes under study of the bible and dedicated to a
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  bible theme of study of a prophetic and eschatological message dedicated to the topic of
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  prophecy, with notes explaining what prophecies each book of Valdivia contains, what prophetic
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  parts, what part not pros that do not make the old testament the vidia
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  of patrística. With comments from Bainhesia' s parents, we seek at every
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  moment to be a bridge between the academy and Baihesia, because, unfortunately,
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  most of our pastors, especially in Latin America, have had no academic training
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  whatsoever, and the mission of which is to provide them with the tools to
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  be able to improve in this academic training and better present the lesson of them
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  jue So what interesting How many things? How much is a gigantic library.
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  Three thousand and five hundred titles. I have, among them, that next
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  week we interviewed Don Jesús Zamora and Alfonso Ropero to tell us about the Bible
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  of patristic study, centuries from Moon to the sixth. This is a monumental
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  work, that is, this is a colossal work. I am a fond
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  of patristics and truth that is a book among many, but now we are
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  also talking about this one, one of the latest publications by editorial Clie.
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  It' s sensational. Any reader interested in deepening the topics of the Bida
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  and its history has to acquire this book Bible of patristic study published by Ito.
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  Giving customer is something really is a jewel. You don' t have
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  to miss this. And I also want to bring up Don Elisha also the
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  books of the Treasure of David, which you have also compared, he has
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  directed with so many authors. I have both volumes published. Another of the
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  must- have jewels, which is that there are things that are especially important
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  and these two, the Treasure of David, first volume and second also participated
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  in va bilio patrística. All the notes, the selection of notes and the
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  translation of the books of Esther Dras, Nemiah and Psalms, are notes that
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  I prepared and reacted from the parents of the church and I had to translate
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  sometimes from Latin, sometimes according to the cases, and I can tell myself
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  that I enjoyed very much and it was very enriching the seversion and translation of
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  these notes for from a spiritual point of view, the avegorical interpretation that the
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  fathers of Vaibesia do seeing Christ everywhere, even in the titles of masters,
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  they saw Christ here was an anticipation of the balery of Christ. For me
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  it was a real dispossession, but you' re right. My greatest contribution
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  from the academic point of view has been David' s treasure. It was
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  my father' s illusion to dispose of this monumental work of expulsion, which
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  was a commentary to the entire Bible through Bossauns, because and to the fathers
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  of Vaigesia, like Thanas and Beejandria, they believed and demonstrate that the Saumos
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  are a summary of the whole Bible. There is no passage in the Bible,
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  there is no event that does not have its counterpart in the euvibre of
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  psalms. Then Spulson wrote eight volumes in the U S that not only did
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  I make his own comment We enjoyed, but it was reacted from the parents
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  of Baynesia to his time, or better said, commenting to the Saumos by
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  all the authors of all time, the church fathers, in the Middle Ages,
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  the writers or reformers, puritan writers a monumental work. I really do,
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  and it' s been another privilege for me. It was my father
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  ' s dream that this work, educated at Spulson' s school, could
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  be published in Spanish. He couldn' t do it in life because there
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  were no means to it and the most difficult butades. But when I retired
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  from day to day from yours and entered as current director, Director Don Alfonso
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  Triviño, and I said good. I retire from day- to- day
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  management, from management, but not from work. I have to continue to
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  work as my father worked and I dedicated myself to making my father' s
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  dream come true that this comment to the entire EU psalm trunk living could be
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  available in full Spanish with all the text that is public fulson. My father
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  made two small volumes, which was a small summary, but that at least
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  five percent of the composite work I have now made with poet Ampoandoba and updating
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  with actors of authors of ossively like José María Martínez, Francisco la Cueva and
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  others like Luis Hago, great specialists like Luis Alonso checkeo O Krause. And
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  the third volume is already closed. A month ago I closed the third and
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  last volume of this work in Spanish. It is already in the process of
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  printing and I hope that we will have it available for this year. And
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  I' m still working right now. And in what, then, in
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  the Bible of study to the uz de los Samos. Based on the bite
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  he kicked out in a car I' m David' s. I am
• 52:31
  preparing a life of study from Genesis, one, one, Apocoypsis, twenty
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  - one, twenty- two, lauding each verse, each biblical phrase or
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  text with its counterpart in the omos and with comments from the great authors of
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  all threads. If the Lord gives me strength and allows me to complete it,
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  it is a monumental job. But if the Lord gives me strength,
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  it will also be a work, an excellent exempt study life, Don el
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  Iceo, that we rejoice in this prolific work and this is this desire and
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  these forces and energies that God gives him to carry on. And finally,
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  don Elliceo, what is the future of editorial clie what projects they have in
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  mind for the coming times. Some things have advanced us, because we are
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  going to get out very soon. Just last week we were celebrating the centenary
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  with all the team and collaborators. We count thirty- one people who are
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  in one way or another collaborating. With Clue, we have a team of
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  or that I feel tremendously satisfied, of truly dedicated people. What comes close
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  as a comfortable mini that is like a Christian ministry and we have drawn great
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  projects to update the intervention, to support the vineyard of dictionaries and to continue,
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  as I said a moment ago, filling the needs of vaigesia with books,
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  touching on topics that perhaps other editorials that have a more denominational character,
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  cannot touch or dare not touch, like the problems of women in the Church
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  to the problems of ecology. Look, as I said before, so that
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  the apostomic creed is the basis. From here we are open to all kinds
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  of manuscripts that do not present us and that have the possibility to fill a
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  gap more questions, more difficulties of the Church today, as long as they
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  are well written, is relevant and remains within what we understand to be a
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  faith Once given to the saints that is the fundamental doctrines. In apostolic ocreto,
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  we have great projects. At this time it would be useless to value
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  authors and titles in specific English, but we are working on a Bible study
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  of the Bible lands still does not have a definite title. A four-
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  color conceptual historical study Bible, illustrated so that people who see the text of
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  the Bible can understand with the greatest accuracy or age, the historical, geographical,
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  cultural context of you events that are narrated in a Bible and, in
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  this way, be able to better understand the word of God. We are
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  in big projects and, as I told the team, if we are able
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  to follow the same tone that you have already followed in a few years to
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  fill the gap. I was telling them what a passage of killing that when
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  the Lord says if you do what we do, if you simply greet your
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  brothers, what you do too much, you do not also make the Gentiles
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  to be perfect, like your father, who are defiled. It is perfect
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  you would have always followed this tonic of going forward and amortizing with a vision
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  of the future. Or that we consider that igesia needs to advance and the
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  idea that we have for the future is this always to follow a step forward
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  and to contribute what we believe that igesia, without denominational distinctions, needs to
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  have answers to the difficulties it has to face at every moment and in every
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  epoch. We have done in the past aero conno and if the lord gives
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  us strength, we think to continue making good future, because it is really
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  sensational, it is admirable everything lived the history of publishing click from its origins,
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  the person to the figure really remarkable of Don Samuel Villa, the founder,
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  a fighter, a faith against an empire in the history of a mourning
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  in birth, also as was Don Samuel Vila, And how not, since
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  now represented in the person of Don Elisha Vila, his son, also obviously,
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  the operating team of publishing Clie, because look at how many things and
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  that enjoy. We celebrate and congratulate him, but with great enthusiasm and with
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  great emotion to Clie publishing house, to you, Don el Liceo and all
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  that we have ahead and have ahead with Clie publishing house. It' s
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  really been a pleasure interviewing you. Thank you very much and until the next
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  one where I eliseo, thank you very much. And tell me as the
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  end that you have mentioned a book, a faith against an empire laughs for
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  Brain. Your centennial is going to give free on the Internet this book that
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  you have quoted, a faith against an empire and another that I wrote,
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  which is called José Cardona, the defense of a faith that understands the whole
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  history of or Protestantism in Spain over the last hundred years, practically the history
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  of Quie and the history in general of Guaducha for the defense of the faith
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  that José Cardona made. After my father. These books will be available in
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  the good tuye that is www. They' re not going yet, but
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  they' ll be over mid- year. There you will be able to
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  download and have them free of charge and see this book that you mentioned.
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  Thank you very much. Magnificent, magnificent, for I send you a hug
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  and a very affectionate greeting. Don Elliceo. Many thanks to you and many
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  successes and blessings in this great ministry for the work, as peace is waved.
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  Thanks always does. Understandable is the obsession with the mainland, but tell
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  me but that every trip that was worth it started because someone and sun sails
• 1:00:32
  and only sees it. Understandable, it' s the obsession with the sense
• 1:00:47
  I expect you to tell me but every step she left was taken because someone
• 1:00:53
  lost a nut, I lost a common foot run. Wanting to see that
• 1:01:08
  doesn' t look like following something you still don' t know right about
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  him. All life is walking on water, walking on water? All life
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  is walking on water, walking on water? All life is walking on water,
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  walking on water? All life is walking on Cuba, walking on water?
• 1:01:42
  I have him over the water and I will give him a hint and
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  he says that he would like to have our life resolved at once. But
• 1:01:58
  every day they care between dreams and tide, and there they find their great
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  beauty. And in confidence is the party and the surprises. The faith the
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  key, all the step and the Mars is already walking on the water,
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  walking on the water? The secret not of a yard look, oh drink
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  your eyes? All life is walking on water, walking on water? The
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  secret no longer looks at God' s eyes and walks on the water,
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  walks on the water, the secret not to cardar Look there gave him the
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  look. All life is to walk on water, to walk on the weapon,
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  the secret not of gray seen there saw his gaze, to walk in
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  secret soleragua is not to watch truth walk on water, and he detonates of
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  gray. Look talk about water tried to plow, walk about I thought I
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  shouldn' t look. Editorial Clie presents Bible of study of patristics the wisdom
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  place from 26 to 28 April in the Fira de Reus, Tarragona. With
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  us will be international speakers Mariano sen Igual, Benjamin Núñez and Marcos Brunet,
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  Until he comes? Hoya prun yourself, home to your glory and come down
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  plotted well and pruned eye to see or travel on the train of life.
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  Answers to big questions. Yesterday and today. We' re in direct line
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  with Dr Antonio Cruz. Today we' re talking about goodbye for the adén.
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  It is one of his books for all lovers of science, of good
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  science. It is a informative reflection on the origins written by a professor of
• 1:07:13
  biology and theologian, also in which lovers of apologetic dialogue will find many answers
• 1:07:19
  and arguments for the defensive and argumental explanation of the Christian faith. Well,
• 1:07:29
  there we have a great pleasure to have you with us on the train of
• 1:07:31
  life, because just as always, Antonio, in the first place, what
• 1:07:38
  is the primary reason for the publication of this new book to God by DNA,
• 1:07:42
  what is the reason Mobile moved you to write. Yes, well,
• 1:07:45
  I think this book is like a consequence of the former of the new atheism,
• 1:07:53
  because one of the main arguments of the new atheism is that God does
• 1:07:58
  not exist. That' s what Richard Dowkins and Daniel Denneth and all the
• 1:08:02
  other famous atheists say, for they say that nature has created itself, that
• 1:08:09
  natural laws have existed forever or have been generated from nothing. They say that
• 1:08:17
  the whole of matter has arisen out of nothing. Life arose and evolution does
• 1:08:25
  not need God. So, that' s what is being taught today in
• 1:08:30
  most of the world' s universities. Our young people are being told that
• 1:08:33
  believing in God is a matter for unintelligent people, that it is a crutch,
• 1:08:42
  it is a help that some people require, but that in reality,
• 1:08:45
  all that is false, all that is a myth, that science is incompatible
• 1:08:50
  with the Christian faith, that science does not need God at all, that
• 1:08:55
  can explain it all in God. Well, I don' t think that
• 1:09:00
  ' s true, it' s the other way around. I think it
• 1:09:02
  is quite the opposite and that is why I have written this book as a
• 1:09:10
  response to that scientific atheism that is preached today from the university pulpits that there
• 1:09:19
  are also during the last decades. In fact, what has happened in the
• 1:09:23
  world of science is that a lot of scientific evidence has been accumulating that points
• 1:09:30
  in the same direction, that is, points towards an intelligent activity in the
• 1:09:35
  origin of life and not chance and not chance, for example, in this
• 1:09:43
  book to God by Adner. Where I focus most is on the biological information
• 1:09:50
  that has to possess the molecule of soxiribonucleic acid, that is, the famous
• 1:09:57
  DNA. In addition, all the structures within the cell when you see how
• 1:10:05
  they interact with each other, how they work, how they perform such precise
• 1:10:12
  functions, so accurate, and, in addition, functions that transcend, that
• 1:10:17
  is, they go beyond their own individual components within the cell. The cell
• 1:10:27
  is made up of atoms, like all matter, but it is formed by
• 1:10:32
  very complex molecules, by more chromoleculas that form microscopic organelles, which interact with
• 1:10:39
  each other as if they were clockpieces pieces of an immense factory. And when
• 1:10:45
  you analyze these individual components, you find them relatively simple. And you wonder.
• 1:10:50
  How is it possible that these simple things formed by atoms of iron,
• 1:10:55
  magnesium, sodium depasium? How is it possible and that these relatively simple things
• 1:11:01
  do such intelligent functions or jobs. Of course, obviously, that leads us
• 1:11:09
  to think that all living beings, that DNA cells, that everything that composes
• 1:11:13
  us has required intelligent planning. And so written this interesting book preamble there is
• 1:11:26
  consensus for the affectation of intelligent design. There is currently no consensus. This
• 1:11:35
  is precisely one of the accusations made by its opponents, who are the majority
• 1:11:41
  of scientists, to intelligent design. For example, intelligent design is said to
• 1:11:47
  violate scientific consensus. It goes against consensus And because, of course, consensus
• 1:11:55
  is evolutionary and intelligent design questions that everything that all living beings have been made
• 1:12:00
  by the method of evolution. Of course, most scientists in the world are
• 1:12:05
  Darwinists. But of course it is true that it violates scientific consensus. But
• 1:12:14
  the scientific consensus also violated it in its copernical era, for example Galileo,
• 1:12:20
  Keppler, Newton, even Charles Darwin himself. Carlos Darwin violated the scientific consensus
• 1:12:29
  because in his time they were all creationists, they were all in favour of
• 1:12:33
  a god he had designed, and Darwin violated the scientific consensus. I believe
• 1:12:39
  that the purpose of science is not to preserve scientific consensus, but to provide
• 1:12:46
  accurate knowledge of the universe. And that, then, sometimes requires being willing
• 1:12:54
  to break the consensus. The movement of intelligent design has taken three decades,
• 1:13:01
  more than three decades, thirty years, spreading throughout the world its belief that
• 1:13:06
  everything we see in nature depends on an original design. Smart design began in
• 1:13:15
  the year in a thousand nine hundred and eighty- four, when a group
• 1:13:19
  of biochemists, Charles Tacton and others published a book in English called The Mystery
• 1:13:27
  of the Origin of Life. That book was like a biochemical challenge to Darwinism,
• 1:13:34
  and there the concept of intelligent design was used for the first time to
• 1:13:41
  refer to the origin of life. Then came more scientists, more thinkers.
• 1:13:45
  He then added Law Professor Phillip Johnson, who wrote a book that is translated
• 1:13:53
  into Spanish, which is a process to Darwin. This was already the case
• 1:13:57
  in the early part of almost two years, in the 1990s. In a
• 1:14:02
  thousand nine hundred and ninety- one, then came biochemist Michael J. Biji,
• 1:14:09
  who also wrote a book that is translated into Spanish, Darwin' s
• 1:14:13
  Black Box. In the ninety- six came a mathematician and philosopher like William
• 1:14:16
  Densky, who wrote The Smart Digeño, and there they also added good.
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  Today there are thousands of scientists who are part of the ranks of intelligent design,
• 1:14:30
  especially in the Anglo- Saxon world, but of course they remain a
• 1:14:36
  minority in the general scientific world. And here in Spain that good, because
• 1:14:41
  here those who speak or who talk about intelligent design. We are immediately talking
• 1:14:45
  about fanatics, pseudo- scientists, creationists, as they say, creationists.
• 1:14:51
  These people are as rare as the Americans. Even within Protestantism there are evolutionists,
• 1:15:00
  belligerents and intransigents with intelligent design. That' s already harder to understand,
• 1:15:05
  because that' s the way it is, it' s a reality.
• 1:15:11
  One can understand that an atheist, of course, is going to explain
• 1:15:17
  the origin of the world if there is no God, for he has no
• 1:15:21
  choice but to appeal the evolution of matter to change. But clear to a
• 1:15:29
  believer, for it is different, because there are many believers who say good
• 1:15:34
  is that God has been able to create through evolution. Yes, it'
• 1:15:39
  s true, God has been able to do it. So in the evangelical
• 1:15:41
  field too, there would be a whole range of people. Not only are
• 1:15:46
  there creationists of the earth, young creationists of the earth, and supporters of
• 1:15:51
  intelligent design, but there are also theistic evolutionists who believe that God has used
• 1:15:57
  the mechodo of evolution. You also talk to us in your book about a
• 1:16:02
  lot of interesting things, lots of DNA to God for DNA. And one
• 1:16:08
  of the particularities is that it proposes intelligent design, and this is what we
• 1:16:12
  ' re talking about. But you' re telling us about Darwin' s
• 1:16:15
  dangerous idea and what that dangerous or dangerous Darwinist ideas are. Yes, well,
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  I' m talking about Darwin' s dangerous idea, because it turns
• 1:16:26
  out that in the nineties, in nine hundred and ninety- five, the
• 1:16:30
  atheist philosopher Daniel Dennett, who I mentioned earlier wrote a book that was called
• 1:16:35
  Darwin' s dangerous idea, and he said in that book that the theory
• 1:16:42
  of evolution is a dangerous idea because they check sacred myths, that is,
• 1:16:48
  all religions that, according to him, would only serve to deceive ourselves.
• 1:16:56
  Religions would be human inventions, but without real basis. According to Dennett,
• 1:17:03
  when Darwin proposed his scientific mechanism of natural selection, he uncovered as a kind
• 1:17:10
  of bitter cake that was nihilism, that is, nothing can be considered sacred,
• 1:17:17
  because nothing makes sense. Everything depends on chance, everything depends on necessity,
• 1:17:23
  and he said in his book that God was becoming something like the Pope,
• 1:17:29
  not the myth of childhood, that does not really exist, Now,
• 1:17:32
  when evolutionism leaves the field of science and becomes a naturalistic ideology, atheist,
• 1:17:40
  I wonder why it is not generating the same thing that Bennet denounces in his
• 1:17:49
  book, that is, it is not generating a myth that inculcates children,
• 1:17:56
  in waves, schools, in institutes and in the university, the myth of
• 1:18:00
  saying that everything depends on the random god and that there is no intelligent designer.
• 1:18:10
  Of course the problem. The problem arises when many scientists and thinkers around
• 1:18:16
  the world begin to question the mechanisms of the evolution of arbinist and, as
• 1:18:23
  a consequence, question this worldview of atheistic naturalism and doubt arises. It'
• 1:18:33
  s just the design we see in living things. It' s just apparent
• 1:18:41
  or it' s really a real design. This is due exclusively to random
• 1:18:45
  mutations and wisdom, between quotation marks of natural selection, or perhaps there is
• 1:18:50
  a real designer who has designed everything, because if that were the case,
• 1:18:58
  then the pretensions of materialistic naturalism would fall completely apart. There is therefore the
• 1:19:05
  crux of the matter. This is the controversial theory of intelligent design, because
• 1:19:13
  intelligent design comes to say that the mechanisms proposed by Darwing, natural selection,
• 1:19:18
  mutations of chance are not enough to explain everything we see in nature. If
• 1:19:29
  Darwing' s theory is dangerous for theism, for believers, for whom we
• 1:19:34
  believe that there is a god who has created, as Dennet said, I
• 1:19:40
  believe that the theory of design is also dangerous for atheism, because it breaks
• 1:19:47
  its foundations and talking about the origin of life, you talk to us about
• 1:19:56
  problems for the chemical evolution of life. What are you going to be questioning
• 1:20:00
  this matter about? Well, then, to see now in the world,
• 1:20:08
  in the evolutionary mentality that currently dominates our society, there is a theory that
• 1:20:15
  is part of the theory of evolution, which is what is called the theory
• 1:20:17
  of biopollesis, conigriega biopollesis. What does this mean? Well, biopollesis assumes
• 1:20:25
  that the first cells that formed on earth arose by evolution from dead matter,
• 1:20:33
  i e from the inorganic matter of the chemical elements. But, of course,
• 1:20:45
  this poses a whole series of drawbacks to what are the drawbacks of that
• 1:20:51
  theory of good biopolisis. The first is that it confuses. It confuses the
• 1:20:59
  shape of the first complicated molecules, of the first proteins, of the nucleic
• 1:21:06
  acids of DNA. This is what in biology is called polymers. Biological polymers.
• 1:21:13
  Polymers means a very long macromolecule, a molecule that has a very long
• 1:21:17
  chain. It is a polymer, because it makes a confusion between the formation
• 1:21:23
  of the biological polymers that are currently occurring within our cells. It' s
• 1:21:29
  a process that happens that we can study it or we can see it.
• 1:21:32
  It confuses the formation of biological polymers with monomers, i e piececitas that serve
• 1:21:40
  to construct these polymers. A polymer would be like a pearl necklace and a
• 1:21:47
  single pearl would be a monomer. For example, a polymer is a protein,
• 1:21:54
  which would be its monomer. An amino acid, an aminoacir of form
• 1:21:58
  proteins, a polymer would be that of N which is its monomer, since
• 1:22:01
  the nucleotides that are the piececitas, the molecules that constitute in DNA. Now,
• 1:22:09
  here the confusion is now we see how polymers are formed within cells,
• 1:22:14
  but how the first polymer was formed the first time in the origin of the
• 1:22:18
  world. One thing is what we see how they are formed now with all
• 1:22:25
  the mechanisms and existing, with all the molecules they have. And another is
• 1:22:28
  how it should have been at the beginning, that is, that polymerization is
• 1:22:33
  a function proper to the laws of chemistry and biochemistry that currently occurs inside cells,
• 1:22:38
  but never occurs outside cells. What is observed today in nature, especially
• 1:22:46
  when organisms die, is a great tendency for polymers of any molecule of gluz
• 1:22:55
  and two lipid nucleic void proteins to spontaneously transform into the monomers that constitute them.
• 1:23:04
  That' s right, we' ll see him now. What we
• 1:23:06
  don' t see is the opposite. We do not see that monomers never
• 1:23:12
  unite by themselves and constitute polymers outside cells. That never happens and this is
• 1:23:16
  a serious difficulty. A second drawback to the chemical evolution of life is also
• 1:23:26
  posed by the origin of the nucleotides, of the monomers that constitute DNA.
• 1:23:31
  How they could be formed, randomly molecules in these molecules so complex that they
• 1:23:39
  constitute DNA or RNA, For today the truth is that no one knows.
• 1:23:44
  Many hypotheses have been put forward, but no definitive, none that is universally
• 1:23:49
  accepted. For example, it has been said and this was discussed more meticulously
• 1:23:55
  in my book. It has been said that well, that that has nothing
• 1:23:59
  to explain, that how polymers are formed, well it is a thing that,
• 1:24:04
  as they are there, neither do I know at all how they were
• 1:24:08
  formed. The truth is that they exist and that they work. But good
• 1:24:11
  to say that they don' t have an explanation, it' s not
• 1:24:14
  explaining anything. Others say that it was pure chance that happens that, of
• 1:24:16
  course mathematically, it has been seen that to make a single protein of 200
• 1:24:24
  amino acids by chance, it is as if you touch the lottery ten years
• 1:24:30
  in a row. There' s a lot more complicated than that. Others
• 1:24:33
  say there was a natural selection before life, but how natural selection can work
• 1:24:40
  or function with molecules that do not reproduce. Natural selection works with beings that
• 1:24:48
  reproduce, have offspring and select the best and eliminate the worst, but if
• 1:24:53
  molecules are unique and do not reproduce, it is difficult for there to be
• 1:24:57
  a natural selection. Others say good it is that in the bowels of matter,
• 1:25:02
  in atoms, there are mysterious laws of self- organization that force molecules
• 1:25:09
  to join together in increasingly complex, more sophisticated molecules and in the end life
• 1:25:15
  appears. Okay. It has been searching for many years and no law of
• 1:25:19
  self- organization has been found. And finally, the theory that prevails today
• 1:25:26
  in the world of biology, which is what is called the world of RN
• 1:25:29
  or the hypothesis of the world of RN. Of course, as we saw,
• 1:25:36
  DNA does not duplicate itself to form other beings, because DNA with a
• 1:25:44
  lot of information and is a molecule that is difficult to break, even fossils,
• 1:25:49
  from fossils that have been buried for many years, can be extracted DNA.
• 1:25:56
  I mean, it' s a super stable molecule, which is hard
• 1:26:00
  to mess up, because maybe it thought it was good at best. DNA
• 1:26:03
  didn' t, but maybe RNA, RNA might have started to double,
• 1:26:08
  and that could have started to form life. The problem is that there are
• 1:26:15
  currently no self- replicating RNA molecules that double in living cells. The researchers,
• 1:26:23
  who support this chemical origin of life, try to test this hypothesis,
• 1:26:28
  thus imagining what the earthly environment would be like at that time. They try
• 1:26:34
  to simulate the hypothetical world of RN in the laboratory to try to create an
• 1:26:40
  RNA molecule that is able to reproduce itself. However, that replicating structure has
• 1:26:46
  not been found so far and here it is necessary to point out a fact
• 1:26:53
  is curious, for example, to try to get those hypothetical molecules that have
• 1:26:58
  already been named the ribacimas, with reproductive capacity, because in the experiments that
• 1:27:03
  are carried out in the laboratory, because it requires a whole display of impressive
• 1:27:11
  and clear chemical technology, one wonders could be given all these circumstances so precise,
• 1:27:19
  so concrete in the hypothetical primitive environment. Chemical evolution, which by definition
• 1:27:28
  is blind, is subject to laws that have no purpose at random, may
• 1:27:32
  be capable of such a waste of intelligence and sophisticated chemical manipulation. How nature
• 1:27:41
  was going to hijack the desired compounds, turning them away from the cross-
• 1:27:47
  reactions that could be destructive and fatal without the techniques and intelligent design of the
• 1:27:54
  experiments they use ho and these researchers. Well, I think that sometimes many
• 1:27:58
  of these researches that are published in scientific journals, suffer from a minimal critical
• 1:28:04
  analysis because of that blind faith in evolutionism, that is, the researcher goes
• 1:28:12
  to nature convinced that there has been evolution and has to prove the cost of
• 1:28:16
  it. Although nature the results are sometimes opposite. The truth is that science
• 1:28:26
  today has no explanation for the origin of life. Living beings present a fundamental
• 1:28:32
  tendency towards purpose, toward purpose. Every living being is oriented towards doing something
• 1:28:44
  concrete to live in the world in which he lives. And when you go
• 1:28:47
  to inanimate matter, to inorganic matter. Well, that purpose, that purpose,
• 1:28:54
  is nowhere to be seen. Organisms are characterized by having goals, goals
• 1:28:59
  or purposes in themselves, but the inorganic does not show such a trend.
• 1:29:05
  How all this information characteristic of the living could arise from a simple collection of
• 1:29:13
  non- intelligent molecules, subjected to blind and purposeless forces, instead of choosing
• 1:29:19
  to believe the impossible, that is, that life began by chance spontaneously.
• 1:29:27
  Rather, I believe that we have powerful reasons to accept the idea of design,
• 1:29:33
  the idea of creation by a wise God as revealed in the pages of
• 1:29:39
  the Bible. Gentlemen, we are talking to Dr Antonio Cruz and we are
• 1:29:48
  talking about a topic that is the theme of his book, of his latest
• 1:29:51
  book published by Editorial Clielo has at his disposal in any evangelical bookstore in Spain
• 1:29:58
  or directly through Editorial clien they can ask him goodbye for the DNA that proposes
• 1:30:03
  intelligent design. And I see that after this powerful argument that I would say
• 1:30:13
  very conclusive as to defined criteria on the subject in question, the question is
• 1:30:19
  scientific, Antonio, intelligent design, because there is the question of many.
• 1:30:27
  It is scientific or it is not scientific intelligent design. Well, I think
• 1:30:31
  it is, even if it is sometimes said that intelligent design violates the scientific
• 1:30:36
  method. This is said a lot. Scientific methods often verify hypotheses through demonstrations,
• 1:30:47
  and intelligent design is precisely what it does, for example, to verify
• 1:30:54
  the hypothesis that a biological system, for example, an eye, ear or
• 1:30:59
  blood clotting mechanism, was designed or not designed. What smart design does.
• 1:31:10
  Well, it determines whether the mechanisms envisaged by Darwinist evolution are capable of producing
• 1:31:18
  these organs and these functions are either not capable. And this is scientific.
• 1:31:27
  Sometimes it is said, for example, that intelligent design impedes the progress of
• 1:31:30
  good science. I think it' s the other way around. Intelligent design
• 1:31:35
  stimulates scientific progress, while sometimes Darwinism makes it difficult. For example, evolutionism
• 1:31:43
  predicts and this has recently happened in the world of science. Evolutionism predicts that
• 1:31:50
  many pieces of DNA are useless, especially most DNA that do not complement any
• 1:31:58
  function, and intelligent design says well if there really is a designer, how
• 1:32:03
  a wise designer goes to make pieces of DNA that are useless. It will
• 1:32:13
  not be that we have not yet found a specific function for it and we
• 1:32:17
  do not yet know enough. Let' s study more. In other words,
• 1:32:19
  intelligent design promotes research to discover possible functions in such DNA. Garbage,
• 1:32:28
  that' s what you' ve been called. Ninety- eight percent of
• 1:32:30
  DNA was said to be garbage, which was useless at all. That was
• 1:32:34
  an evolutionary prejudice, because it was thought that throughout those geologic times. Throughout
• 1:32:43
  the evolution, many genes had gone away many mutations, had been producing garbage
• 1:32:47
  that had been accumulating because they initially served something, but then lost that functionality
• 1:32:51
  and have been accumulating in the human genome. And, therefore, almost ninety
• 1:32:59
  - eight percent was useless In this sense, I believe that intelligent design was
• 1:33:02
  much more justified than Darwinism and guaranteed the objectivity of that of science. Therefore,
• 1:33:12
  intelligent design cannot prevent the progress of science, but quite the contrary,
• 1:33:16
  like what has happened with junk DNA, which we have seen as a fallacy.
• 1:33:24
  There wasn' t ninety- eight percent trash. Now we know that
• 1:33:27
  garbage had a specific function. Yeah, that' s true that that DNA
• 1:33:31
  doesn' t make proteins like functional DNA, like it does, like genes,
• 1:33:36
  but it turns out to be useful for a lot of other things.
• 1:33:42
  For example, it was a bit like saying. Let' s imagine that
• 1:33:45
  we have a factory that manufactures ferrari cars not month. It just makes high
• 1:33:49
  - end cars, racing ferras. And in that factory there are a hundred
• 1:33:56
  workers, only two factory workers. Two percent are working riding cars and the
• 1:34:00
  rest of the operators ninety- eight are sitting watching the two of them work
• 1:34:04
  and one says good, but this is not feasible. There are only two
• 1:34:09
  who work. The rest is useless. But it turns out that when you
• 1:34:14
  do a little more research in that factory, you see that out of those
• 1:34:17
  ninety- eight you' re looking at there are some who do the advertising
• 1:34:23
  of those cars to sell them. There are others who are in charge of
• 1:34:25
  cleaning the factory. There are others in charge of the payroll of the Far
• 1:34:30
  administration. The ninety- eight are useful for concrete things, although it is
• 1:34:33
  not directly for making cars, but it is for things that will make it
• 1:34:39
  easier for the factory to function well and for those cars to have a way
• 1:34:42
  out. Well, the same thing happened with the D N A. Today
• 1:34:45
  we know that that ninety- eight percent was fictitious and that most of the
• 1:34:50
  DNA has a functionality. It' s good, it' s good for
• 1:34:55
  something. Smart design has been more effective there than Darwinism, for example.
• 1:35:00
  Interesting explanation for those who are precisely faced with the strong doubt in the collective
• 1:35:10
  imagination, those of the scientific community or their affections. In your book you
• 1:35:15
  also talk about the design of the universe and the Big Bam theory, among
• 1:35:19
  other things. Let' s get this explanation a little ahead of us.
• 1:35:25
  I do speak because well, the origin of the universe. The origin of
• 1:35:30
  the universe is the same as the origin of life and the origin of DNA
• 1:35:33
  information. Some atheist scientists say today that the order and design that nature shows
• 1:35:43
  is just an anthropic coincidence, it is said, a cosmic coincidence. I
• 1:35:49
  mean, they agree to accept the incredible improbability of the universe being organized as
• 1:35:58
  it is, but they explain it by saying that if it wasn' t,
• 1:36:02
  if it weren' t, we human beings wouldn' t be here
• 1:36:08
  to see it clearly, that' s a bit of a poor explanation.
• 1:36:11
  I think this sounds more like an excuse than an explanation. Physics and cosmology
• 1:36:15
  have pointed out more than seventy anthropic coincidences, that is, that in the
• 1:36:27
  cosmos indispensable for the Universe to sustain intelligent life on Earth. That is,
• 1:36:34
  there are seventy laws, seventy physical, chemical, mathematical constants in the laws
• 1:36:43
  of the Universe that have to be as they are, exactly for there to
• 1:36:50
  be men and women on earth, that is, if any of those laws
• 1:36:54
  were to change as little as possible, life on our planet would not be
• 1:36:57
  possible. Coincidences such as, for example, the value of the four fundamental
• 1:37:03
  forces of the Universe, the strong nuclear force, which is the force by
• 1:37:10
  which electrons and protons of the nucleus are attracted in atoms. Weak nuclear force,
• 1:37:18
  electromagnetic force, gravity force, etcetera, etcetera. And many more constants
• 1:37:24
  have to be as they are, worth what they are worth to make life
• 1:37:28
  here possible. So the question is how all the ingredients, the constants,
• 1:37:34
  these necessary forces came up at the right time and in the right measure to
• 1:37:42
  produce a universe capable of harboring life. Only two answers have been given to
• 1:37:45
  this question. Random or design. However, when mathematics is used, design
• 1:37:54
  is far more than random. This was calculated by an evolutionist scientist, Oxford
• 1:38:03
  University mathematician, Rogertten Rose, who entertained himself precisely in making the right calculations
• 1:38:11
  and wrote. After this, he wrote a book and in that book he
• 1:38:17
  says that the creator is curious the phrase he says. The creator had a
• 1:38:21
  lot of aim, a divine precision on the one hand between a ten to
• 1:38:30
  ten and that second ten to a hundred and twenty- three, that is,
• 1:38:35
  an extraordinary figure. This figure is greater than the number of subatomic particles
• 1:38:42
  that are supposed to possess the entire universe, that is, in practice a
• 1:38:45
  possibility like that for the big bang to occur and give rise to the universe
• 1:38:51
  that we know by chance is infinitely less than what is considered or n or
• 1:38:59
  zero from the mathematical point of view. Actually, what pen Rose means here
• 1:39:02
  is that the origin of the cosmos by chance is simply impossible. It is
• 1:39:12
  better to believe in God' s reality than in the wheel of mathematics and
• 1:39:17
  chance, how interesting, ladies and gentlemen, a theme to God by DNA.
• 1:39:25
  We are talking about intelligent design and other issues now, such as the
• 1:39:30
  design of the universe and the Big Band theory, among other questions that Dr
• 1:39:36
  Antonio Cruz explains to us. Antonio, when you ask yourself who designed the
• 1:39:43
  DNA of genes, you also talk to us there, in that section of
• 1:39:47
  the mystery of consciousness, something unreplicable for the evolutionary community, something in which
• 1:39:53
  they find no possible replica convincing, argumentally and of the science of the soul
• 1:40:00
  also that this other edition. Yeah, yeah, well, the molecule of
• 1:40:05
  the DNA soxocribnocleic acid. I believe it is a structure perfectly designed to transmit
• 1:40:14
  information and to give precise orders from the core of each of the living crucibles
• 1:40:19
  that we have in the body. And the fact that it is a message
• 1:40:27
  with information that evidences design inevitably leads to metaphysical questions to transcendent questions, because
• 1:40:35
  messages and designs are not created alone, but require that there be an intelligent
• 1:40:44
  messenger, that there be a designer. The forces of nature by themselves are
• 1:40:50
  incapable of generating information. In the same way as, for example, the
• 1:40:59
  words in a book have not been created by molecular forces of the ink paper.
• 1:41:08
  We assume that, behind the words of a book and the phrases of
• 1:41:11
  a book, there is a mind that is the author of the book that
• 1:41:16
  has designed the book. Well, I think the one who designed the DNA
• 1:41:20
  molecule must also possess an intelligent mind. And if you have an intelligent mind,
• 1:41:28
  this allows us to think of God, as the apostle Paul wrote.
• 1:41:34
  I' m not discovering anything new. Thousands of years ago Paul wrote it.
• 1:41:39
  The invisible things of God become clearly visible, being understood by the things
• 1:41:45
  made, that is, nature itself. What we see in nature leads us
• 1:41:50
  to metaphysics, to the idea of the existence of God and, on the
• 1:41:57
  other hand, linked with all this, the mind, both the mind of
• 1:42:00
  God and in our mind, leads us to talk about consciousness. And consciousness
• 1:42:06
  leads us to the soul or to human spirituality. Now I remember one of
• 1:42:15
  the two discoverers of the DNA molecule who were awarded the Nobel Prize in Medicine
• 1:42:20
  precisely for that work. Dr. Francis Creek, published a very interesting book
• 1:42:26
  in the year, I think it was in the ninety- four thousand nine
• 1:42:30
  hundred and ninety- four that was called The Scientific Search of the Soul.
• 1:42:36
  And in that book an entire biologist like him, biochemist like him, what
• 1:42:43
  he did not pursue was precisely that seeking the soul, but rather the opposite,
• 1:42:48
  because he was an atheist did not believe in the soul, that is,
• 1:42:53
  he wanted to prove that the soul does not exist, that there is
• 1:42:58
  no spiritual essence in man that remains independently of the physical body, or transcends
• 1:43:02
  the physical body. Well, at the end of the book it leaves us
• 1:43:10
  as we were at the beginning, that is, science still doesn' t
• 1:43:15
  know what the soul is and today things haven' t changed. It is
• 1:43:18
  the same because no physiological theory or theory that scientific studies of the human body
• 1:43:29
  can ever explain consciousness or spirituality, because that is something that transcends matter.
• 1:43:36
  Consciousness is not matter, even if it is based on brain neurons. Consciousness
• 1:43:42
  is something that is above the brain. It is true that without a brain
• 1:43:47
  there is no consciousness, but consciousness is not the brain. They' re
• 1:43:53
  two different things. That is why science will never be able to define consciousness,
• 1:44:00
  say how it has arisen, how consciousness originated in the human being,
• 1:44:03
  where spirituality comes from. The theory of evolution will never be able to explain
• 1:44:09
  that, certainly. It is certainly an unknown one that can only be explained
• 1:44:15
  from a different perspective as the divine biblical optics. You talk about four evolutionisms,
• 1:44:25
  as well as some other creationist concepts. Explain to us these concepts,
• 1:44:31
  yes, well, sometimes we make the mistake of talking about evolutionism, Darwinism
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  and so on, but we do not specify enough of what it is.
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  Actually, there are at least four different evolutions. The first, for example,
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  is naturalistic or atheistic evolutionism, that is, the evolutionism of the skeptics,
• 1:44:53
  of those who do not believe in God, of those who say that
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  God does not exist that the soul also does not exist that all there is
• 1:45:00
  is the natural world what we can see observe, touch, measure, regret.
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  Okay. That' s the worldview of the new atheism that has sustained
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  and still sustains today very famous scientists, not only Rechard Dowkins and Francis Creek,
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  for example, without Daniel Dennett, but people who, like Jack Monots
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  and like many scientific thinkers throughout history, naturalistic evolutionism, the second evolutionism could
• 1:45:30
  be called the deist with D deist, because his supporters believe there has been
• 1:45:40
  a creator, they believe there has been a creator God, but he is
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  a timid creator, that is, he is a creator who creates the world,
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  creates the universe, but would no longer intervene in that world. He
• 1:45:56
  would intervene only through secondary causes of the laws that he would have established.
• 1:46:02
  This isthic evolutionism is typical of certain religiosities coming from Hinduism, Buddhism, etc.
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  Then there is pantheistic evolutionism and it says the world is God. The
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  world is the God himself that continually evolves. Everything is God and God is
• 1:46:24
  in everything. God is human, but God is also plant fish, stone,
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  tree, or law of nature. It is curious, but this evolutionism,
• 1:46:36
  which also has oriental roots, is supported by many people today. And
• 1:46:43
  finally, it would be the theistic evolutionism that many believers of the monotheistic,
• 1:46:53
  Jewish, Christian and Muslim religions defend. Muslims few more Christians than Muslims.
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  God creates the universe. God creates life, God creates human beings through evolution,
• 1:47:06
  through natural selection, roasting mutations and natural selection. And what this evolutionism
• 1:47:13
  somehow believes is that natural selection would be directed by the creator so that the
• 1:47:21
  human being would appear as the summit of creation, that is, that it
• 1:47:26
  would be a directed evolution. Sure, this is a problem. This last
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  idea that God directs evolution is a problem that clashes with the first evolutionism,
• 1:47:36
  the naturalist, because naturalist evolutionism, that is, most scientists who sustain naturalism,
• 1:47:44
  believe that evolution is blind, that evolution has no purpose, that it
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  has no destiny, it has no goal, that evolution is not directed towards
• 1:47:51
  any concrete end. Evolution may not be directed to man to the appearance of
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  man. And that' s where there' s that disparity. There is
• 1:48:02
  a conflict between theistic evolutionism and atheistic or naturalistic evolutionism. Well, apart from
• 1:48:12
  this, there are the creationists, the creationists. There are creationists of the
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  young land and creationists of the ancient land. Those of the young earth accept
• 1:48:21
  the Bible account of genesis. God created in six days of 24 hours.
• 1:48:29
  The world is six thousand years old and, in short, everything the Bible
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  says, the Bible flood is exactly the same as the Bible says, and
• 1:48:35
  they have their studies. Of course this has generated. They have also done
• 1:48:42
  very good work in this regard on a scientific level, but always supporting the
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  Bible based on the account of genesis. For their part, the creationists of
• 1:48:51
  ancient Earth believe that the days of genesis could correspond to great geological periods,
• 1:48:59
  that is, it should not be strictly taken as literal days of twenty-
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  four hours. Even if I say and it was morning and it was evening,
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  but in tomorrow also the Hebrew word used for tomorrow can mean beginning and
• 1:49:14
  the one used for evenings can also mean end, that is, They argue
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  this fact and there they have also done great scientific work and there is a
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  whole bibliography about it. And the last option of all of these would be
• 1:49:30
  intelligent design. Smart design is sometimes accused of being the same creationists as ever.
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  But it' s not like that. There are differences. For example,
• 1:49:42
  intelligent design does not presuppose the existence of God, does not take the
• 1:49:47
  Bible account and tries to prove it scientifically in the letter, but only focuses
• 1:49:56
  on an argument of an instructive one seeking the best solution. That is,
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  I study nature and see that living beings show, possess information and show a
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  tendency that behind them has been a project, a planning. This could not
• 1:50:16
  be done by chance, by chance, and then now intelligent design never speaks
• 1:50:20
  of the identity of that intelligent designer. It may be the God of the
• 1:50:30
  Bible, but it could also be something else, that is, within the
• 1:50:33
  movement of intelligent design because there are even Gnostic people or people who don'
• 1:50:41
  t know who this designer might be, but the designer that living beings show
• 1:50:46
  design is clear and there' s the question. In short, all this
• 1:50:48
  is like a range of possibilities around the topic of origins. These are Dr
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  Antonio Cruz' s reflections aloud, telling us about his latest book to God
• 1:51:00
  for DNA and what intelligent design proposes, as these are the answers that you
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  are hearing today here on the train of life. Remember that you can purchase
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  this book through clien publisher you can only click editorial and there you send the
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  book from the publisher or through any evangelical bookstore. In many Spanish cities.
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  In short, Antonio, the theory of evolution is either a verifiable truth or
• 1:51:27
  a socialized lie. Well, I think what is a verifiable truth that no
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  one is discussing is the variation of living beings or what is also called microevolution,
• 1:51:44
  that is, the small changes that originate different races, varieties of animals,
• 1:51:51
  of different plants within the basic types, of some basic types. It
• 1:51:58
  is not dissusable that mutations exist. It is not disputed that these, that
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  mutations generally spoil our genetic heritage. Nor does anyone discuss the role of natural
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  selection as a conservative of species and a eliminator of mutants who appear in a
• 1:52:21
  way and who are deficient in relation to the rest of the population. However,
• 1:52:26
  the problem is to assume that these mutations can be beneficial, that is
• 1:52:34
  to say, the hypothetical beneficial mutations that we see nowhere today. The examples
• 1:52:42
  of beneficial mutations are children, but these beneficial mutations are supposed to have existed
• 1:52:50
  and were favored by natural selection to create all the diversity, the incredible diversity
• 1:52:55
  of life that exists on the planet today. Well, this is that it
• 1:53:00
  assumes evolutionism and this is what is called macroevolution. And this is not proven.
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  I believe that this is the great foundational myth of our time that has
• 1:53:12
  been implanted in society, despite the many drawbacks and gaps that they present.
• 1:53:18
  And why it has been implanted in the collective imagination. Well, because science
• 1:53:26
  said at first that it didn' t want to allow a divine foot on
• 1:53:32
  its door. Everything has to be explained in a natural way, including the
• 1:53:40
  creation of the world. That' s what science says. When there are
• 1:53:44
  two alternatives to solving a problem, one that includes God and another that systematically
• 1:53:50
  excludes him, science chooses the one that is not God, the one that
• 1:53:58
  does not require God. Entry into the method of science, discards the possibility
• 1:54:01
  of an intelligent designer. However, I believe that there are issues, there
• 1:54:08
  are issues such as the theme of creation, such as the origin of life,
• 1:54:12
  such as the origin of human consciousness, etc, to which science cannot
• 1:54:16
  respond because they transcend it, because these issues enter the realm of miracle,
• 1:54:26
  enter the realm of the supernatural and science can never, to certain problems give
• 1:54:31
  them a physical material response, because they are supernatural, metaphysical issues. That
• 1:54:44
  ' s the point. Without a doubt, you are listening, ladies and
• 1:54:47
  gentlemen, to Dr Antonio Cruz, speaking to us about such an interesting subject
• 1:54:55
  for all of us who are more than curious people who want to be moderately
• 1:55:01
  informed about DNA. It has also been discussed in popular and scientific forums about
• 1:55:08
  DNA, its origin, its code, its information and good to God for
• 1:55:15
  DNA. It is a book that, in argument, explains everything that has
• 1:55:20
  been said here much more and also about intelligent design. Many doubts arise.
• 1:55:29
  In short, Antonio, in your last book, one of the previous ones
• 1:55:33
  before this one, one of the last books, the new atheism you make
• 1:55:38
  an argument by explaining with all sorts of data. Also, very convincing about
• 1:55:46
  all this idea, all this general commitment, from many angles that there is
• 1:55:55
  in implanting this anti- God idea in the imagination or why of this endeavor
• 1:56:00
  And there in your previous book you also explain it. Okay. I believe
• 1:56:09
  that the human being who does not believe in God, because belief predates science,
• 1:56:16
  that is, faith predates reason. Then the person who does not believe
• 1:56:23
  in God does not believe in the existence of God. How can the origin
• 1:56:28
  of all things be explained, for, evidently, by appealing that nature has
• 1:56:34
  made itself. But of course this is like divinizing nature. We don'
• 1:56:43
  t believe in God, but we believe in nature. Nature, therefore,
• 1:56:45
  comes to occupy the creative role that belongs to God. So, of course,
• 1:56:54
  from this previous philosophy, from this previous conviction, from this previous ideology,
• 1:57:02
  then science is used to corroborate that premise. And that' s why
• 1:57:11
  so many scientists throughout history have said no. No. Here if there'
• 1:57:15
  s something that tells us an intelligent design, that has to be false.
• 1:57:19
  That must be ruled out, because nature God does not exist at the outset
• 1:57:25
  and therefore, in some way, nature has had to do it. If
• 1:57:29
  today we do not understand how it has happened, if natural selection is unable
• 1:57:34
  and mutations explain how it has occurred, there must be some other natural mechanism,
• 1:57:40
  because God does not exist. So, by that reasoning, for many
• 1:57:45
  people are convinced that evolution, Darwin' s theory of evolution, by many
• 1:57:50
  drawbacks and gaps and problems that may arise. It must be true, that
• 1:58:00
  is, that it is ultimately accepted by faith rather than by scientific conviction.
• 1:58:03
  Yes, it is paradoxical, but so it is paradoxical, it is stopped
• 1:58:09
  and speaking of rationalism, of human reasoning, and the paradox is that,
• 1:58:14
  in the end, it is a supreme act of faith, a truly uncertain
• 1:58:20
  faith in faith, in faith. Well then, ladies and gentlemen, we
• 1:58:24
  have made a very interesting journey with Dr Antonio Cruz on the subject, essentially
• 1:58:30
  to God for the DNA that proposes intelligent design. Well, then, there
• 1:58:33
  ' s a wide range of issues. Here we have succinctly addressed some of
• 1:58:39
  them and left us wanting more. Well, then, dear Antonio, thank
• 1:58:44
  you for offering us such a compelling and exciting document and the truth that this
• 1:58:49
  publication of your God for DNA is magnificent. Congratulations on her. Thank you
• 1:58:54
  very much, well, I' m sorry I used so many words,
• 1:59:00
  other weird ones, well, well. I believe we are very grateful to
• 1:59:03
  you, for my part, not only for your pedagogy, but for your
• 1:59:11
  didactics in making the difficult much more understandable, and that is something that many
• 1:59:15
  in IT value. Thank you very much. Thank you, Antonio, a
• 1:59:17
  very affectionate hug. So long, my friend, so long goodbye to the
• 1:59:32
  train of life itself. In what, then, that we lost the way,
• 1:59:44
  In what mame is it that we leave listen, In what mamen lco
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  are God, fr oh father, our forgiveness, O father, our forgiveness?
• 2:00:11
  We ask graces and misery of torrent in You, grace and misery or
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  redeemed desa chrysso in the tiermo of descavidas Salía. In what moments do you
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  begin your cormos, master p oh, fathers of the oh, father of
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  my pro d and my olsen tito, where are the spirits of s ad
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  maplesco I month true gemento. If I sentence I think of a woman wake
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  up when I see the lock of itad, mame mala, young wake up,
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  when all this lurks, how many you or a man wake up when
• 2:02:56
  it comes to a man despair, when your great, your name tempts and
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  my eyes. Says men or sir we show your great friend goy hello pretty
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  traffic and safety law yal has changed. We changed the rules, because the
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  way we moved has also changed. So, now, if you hold your
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  mobile hand while driving, you can lose six points, new times, new
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  rules. Directorate- General for Traffic, Ministry of the Interior, Government of
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  Spain. You travel on the train of life. We are here, ladies
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  and gentlemen, in this master car of the train of life, always in
• 2:05:15
  good company. The colors of life, seasonal changes and moods, seasonal changes
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  such as from winter to spring and now to moods. Who hasn' t
• 2:05:31
  ever said the saying, and I said it myself in the spring. Blood
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  usually alters it to refer to certain behaviors of some people or even to states
• 2:05:44
  of mind of oneself that seem to us to be bad and that usually coincide
• 2:05:47
  with seasonal periods, such as spring. On many occasions, these states do
• 2:05:56
  not coincide precisely with states of optimism and energy, but rather with periods of
• 2:06:01
  some internal agitation or sadness. When we analyze our concerns, we find nothing
• 2:06:10
  that apparently can justify what we feel or what we are feeling. We'
• 2:06:16
  re probably experiencing some seasonal affective disorder. There' s the word eh unknown
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  to us, seasonal affective disorder. These affective disorders surprise many people, especially
• 2:06:30
  those who usually show some stability in emotional aspects. Today we wonder what these
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  seasonal disorders are and what the causes are. Well, let' s ask
• 2:06:47
  our friend, the psychologist, good friend, the psychologist Daniel Gasso, who
• 2:06:53
  knows about this for a while, what are seasonal affective disorders, because this
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  is quality new songs, seasonal affective disorders, not so emotional, even if
• 2:07:03
  it can affect the exact emotional. Yeah, there' s a whole package,
• 2:07:09
  a whole group of that kind of disorders. Perhaps the best known is
• 2:07:13
  the famous is had spring or autumn or winter depression, etcetera, etcetera.
• 2:07:21
  Such disorders are linked to the seasons of the year. It' s the
• 2:07:28
  actual seasonal disorder, because look from now on, as it' s a
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  word, as you' ve done a little long and a little amply.
• 2:07:34
  We give you sea TAE as the famous car tax or for credits. But
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  let' s call the APR. But this occurs mainly in winter and to
• 2:07:45
  a lesser extent in autumn, as a result of the reduction of people of
• 2:07:48
  light and the decrease in temperatures, which results in more people, as they
• 2:07:53
  go out less in the street and do not relate so much to acquaintances,
• 2:07:57
  friends, etc. The risk, if it seems, is a form of
• 2:08:03
  depression. It intensifies especially in places where winter is more settled and colder.
• 2:08:09
  But there is a modality that occurs in the spring and summer period. That
• 2:08:16
  misses people a lot, because we always identify spring and truth as a time,
• 2:08:20
  as well as optimism, as joy, etcetera. But with the arrival
• 2:08:26
  of the nine temperatures there is also reaching the size in many people, although
• 2:08:30
  their occurrence is lower and the incidence is increasing. That' s the growing
• 2:08:35
  reality. Why, then, because global warming is producing the climate changes that
• 2:08:41
  facilitate those conditions for it to be affected, so that the climate affects people
• 2:08:46
  ' s moods. Then we will see that the incidence of that soda envelope,
• 2:08:54
  above all is based on the amount of light, temperature, humidity,
• 2:08:58
  etc. On the other hand, the revolution, the standards of life it
• 2:09:01
  has made, has decided in a negative way and has supercharged people' s
• 2:09:07
  inspirations and created false needs. We just say and repeat it as active passive
• 2:09:13
  impo that our society generates false needs, is specialized in generating false needs that
• 2:09:20
  force people to move away from a more natural way of life and unnecessarily increase
• 2:09:24
  the duration or intensity of their days, or both and do so at a
• 2:09:31
  rate that is really unsustainable for long periods of time. And what happens,
• 2:09:35
  because it ends up affecting physical balance and emotional balance. Yeah, tremendous,
• 2:09:41
  it' s good. These are seasonal affective disorders. It is a very
• 2:09:46
  clear and timely definition for the issue we are addressing today and Daniel and how
• 2:09:52
  we can identify the presence of that disorder in us, as there is a
• 2:09:58
  series of Julio symptoms that would help us or can help us identify if we
• 2:10:03
  or someone close to us or a relative is suffering from that disorder changes,
• 2:10:09
  for example, in mood. The people affected, as they become more irritable
• 2:10:13
  and susceptible, impaden them feelings of low self- esteem, become more skeptical
• 2:10:18
  of themselves, show greater sensitivity, of which criticism and even in many cases
• 2:10:24
  they often cry and or bother more often with their acility. Other symptoms inability
• 2:10:30
  to enjoy. A person with APR may lose interest in the things they enjoy
• 2:10:35
  again and feel unable to enjoy what he once enjoyed. This is what it
• 2:10:41
  ' s called, because you know that in psychology, because we have the
• 2:10:46
  mania of naming everything, and names, besides, are not of normal names
• 2:10:48
  or of rare names. This is called anedoni and the inability to enjoy,
• 2:10:52
  to feel pleasure something is called anedonia and people with that disorder tend to isolate
• 2:10:58
  themselves and often manifest feelings of guilt for not being better. Another thing is
• 2:11:03
  unusual tiredness or fatigue that doesn' t have a reason. Apparently there is
• 2:11:11
  no special reason to have worked more or to have made some kind of special
• 2:11:16
  effort out of the ordinary, but there is a fatigue that apparently appears for
• 2:11:22
  no reason. Then there are sleep disturbances, the person could sleep much more
• 2:11:28
  than usual or less than normal, i e, hithersomnia or hyposognia. In
• 2:11:33
  some cases this is because it grew from a hormone called melatonin, which does
• 2:11:37
  regulate the person' s sleep cycle, our natural sleep cycle, and this
• 2:11:43
  hormone secretion is altered, since its production is linked to exposure to sunlight.
• 2:11:54
  Therefore, in many Nordic countries depression is treated through exposure to artificial sunlight,
• 2:12:00
  but light finally, and they see very important, very significant changes. That
• 2:12:05
  ' s very curious, too. After changes in a diet the person against
• 2:12:09
  because he experiences some type of diet, we will observe some type of food
• 2:12:15
  change, for example, changes in appetite, and what he does, because
• 2:12:20
  what happens is that they imply a desire to consume excessive carboidates as rather sugary
• 2:12:26
  foods and a tendency to eat more. This change in food. What can
• 2:12:31
  produce weight gain Logically and during some seasonal periods over all intermediate periods, such
• 2:12:35
  as spring and autumn. That' s where a lot of worries start and
• 2:12:41
  also the campaigns of ppation, vikin that the machines. There are the brands
• 2:12:46
  that produce, that produce some kind of products dedicated to dietetics especially and attainment
• 2:12:52
  and so they have it very well assumed and very clear and know in which
• 2:12:56
  time they have to intensify their advertising campaigns. Then, there is also something
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  else, the difficulty to concentrate. Such can affect concentration and interfere with school
• 2:13:07
  performance and work performance. From the person. Not to be frightened, because
• 2:13:13
  it is something that is transitory completely and treatable. But sometimes we have a
• 2:13:18
  feeling that our performance decreases because we find something else. Lack of energy also
• 2:13:26
  diminishes social activities. People with ASD at certain times can spend less time with
• 2:13:31
  friends, close more at home, and are more isolated. And then,
• 2:13:37
  finally, the feeling of low energy, that feeling of having little energy to
• 2:13:41
  face the usual demands, gets the person to feel guilty. That' s
• 2:13:48
  where we have to do emotional work and reprocessing of things, because it leads
• 2:13:54
  the person to feel guilty of failing to attend to what he or she should
• 2:13:58
  and what it does, then, affects his or her self- esteem.
• 2:14:00
  I think because I' m seeing everything, I' m living, unable,
• 2:14:03
  etcetera, etcetera. I' m telling people who expect things from me
• 2:14:05
  what to do that makes them feel frustrated, isolated and more lonely. And
• 2:14:13
  especially if you do not realize what is causing the changes in energy, mood
• 2:14:16
  and motivation. And they usually beat him to something else or something that'
• 2:14:26
  s a personal problem, but never, usually never do a person wear a
• 2:14:31
  seasonal affective disorder. Sure, sure, good. We are seeing a vision
• 2:14:41
  of a somewhat novel aspect in terms of explanation, but which really describes in
• 2:14:48
  our states of mind in relation to seasonal transitions, what are the causes of
• 2:14:56
  affective disorder? These seasonal look is that this is seasonal affective disorder, not
• 2:15:03
  seasonal emotional. This is some spring and summer. What are the causes of
• 2:15:11
  this disorder? For current theories about these causes mostly focus on the role that
• 2:15:16
  sunlight could play. As we said before, sunlight has an important potential in
• 2:15:22
  the production in the human brain of hormones that are key and experts believe that
• 2:15:28
  there are two specific substances in the brain that are melatonin and serotonin that could
• 2:15:33
  be involved in that disorder. What happens, because these two hormones help regulate
• 2:15:41
  sleep cycles and alertness then is awake, asleep and also regulate energy and mood.
• 2:15:50
  Shorter days and longer hours of darkness, for example, in autumn and
• 2:15:52
  winter, can cause an increase in meratonin levels and a decrease in serotonin.
• 2:16:01
  And what happens, because it creates biological conditions that are quite ideal to feel
• 2:16:05
  sad, off or depressed. Another important thing is that, as melatonia is
• 2:16:11
  associated with sleep, the body produces this hormone in larger amounts when there is
• 2:16:16
  darkness and when the days are shorter. Now, this increase in the production
• 2:16:22
  of melatony what it does is for the person to feel more smiling and lethargic.
• 2:16:28
  But with tedotonins it happens just the opposite. Let' s say they
• 2:16:33
  ' re two opposite substances. The production of being otonide counts when the person
• 2:16:37
  is exposed to light, so serotonin levels are likely to be lower during the
• 2:16:41
  winter with the shortest days. But low levels and dotolins are associated with depression,
• 2:16:50
  so increasing the availability of this otone substance helps fight depression. Therefore,
• 2:16:58
  in many medicines all, even in some medicines that are of homeopathic type,
• 2:17:03
  are supplied, because the precursors of their substance is worth what happens, since,
• 2:17:11
  instead, in excessive high levels of serotonids are associated with anxiety disorders.
• 2:17:18
  Hence, the symptoms of APR in spring have components more similar to the two
• 2:17:24
  tones of anxiety than depression, or they are disorders that happen, since anxiety
• 2:17:28
  is an excess of activation, let' s say so, and in depression
• 2:17:33
  it is an activation defect. Then each has its substance. Not sure.
• 2:17:41
  Of course how interesting this issue is and what happens in spring and summer.
• 2:17:46
  What can affect us in this way. Daniel, how you' re explaining
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  to him, because summer is full of changes that can affect the person at
• 2:17:56
  heart. For example, the time change the famous or champion. If the
• 2:18:01
  change in the duration of sunlight and is quite radical in a natural way,
• 2:18:05
  from the beginning of spring. Add to that the effects of the artificial change
• 2:18:09
  of summer time. This makes our endocrine system, our gland system internal ones,
• 2:18:16
  especially the pinea moon gland gland that is lodged in our brain have to
• 2:18:20
  be readjusted in a more sudden way. And this, then, what happens,
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  because it ends up affecting the amount of these substances that are called neurotransmitters
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  and produce and activate the neverse impulses of our brain. What happens, then,
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  and that is all that is artificially forcing environmental changes like that change of
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  schedule. Of course, he just adjusted our biological clocks. We' re
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  made July to function naturally. Our creator has done things perfectly and very well
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  thought out and very well designed. When we want to put our hand in
• 2:19:01
  there and start changing things, we fix one and spoil another and therefore our
• 2:19:05
  hormones, in this case they are adjusted and this has consequences on the mood.
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  That' s the reality. If I, as far as the subject
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  is concerned, that of the artificial changes of drier and such is not execsively
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  supportive, because we added a difficulty and we were able to add an additional
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  difficulty to our indocrine system so that it could be readjusted. Then there are
• 2:19:31
  other things of the main reasons for transforming affective this scene is humidity. Looks
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  like he doesn' t have a relationship. It may shock many of our
• 2:19:41
  listeners, but this humidity increases especially at that time of year in summer.
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  Many people experience discomfort and increase irritability. That' s why it happens to
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  all of us when we say it' s not that it' s a
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  traveling heat, that it' s causing you an upset you' re like
• 2:20:01
  a little upset. It is really that moisture produces this feeling and elevates our
• 2:20:07
  feeling of discomfort and therefore produces irritability and heat does not feel the same way
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  to everyone. Many people, many people have difficulty with the heat and they
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  don' t just feel comfortable anywhere, even if there is conditional air,
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  even then what happens that they have checked and even very curious statistics have been
• 2:20:33
  made about criminologies about the United States, where heat waves have led to an
• 2:20:35
  increase in crime and violence. So heat, especially when it is excessive heat,
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  also produces discomfort and exerts a very direct influence on the mood. Good
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  explanations are very broad and interesting, but there are other reasons why some people
• 2:20:54
  feel emotionally extinguished or weakened when what we call good weather begins. It is
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  true that this happens, yes, especially if you are in situations of loneliness
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  and emotional isolation because you have perhaps suffered the loss of a family scenario,
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  of the family situation that in the past is very rewarding, the memory of
• 2:21:18
  the summer outings in family, etc, can be even painful to you,
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  especially if you have not yet closed your mourning process or have not fully adapted
• 2:21:28
  well enough to the vital changes that this produced. Also a key factor is
• 2:21:35
  the increase in leisure hours, which will be when the person takes the holidays
• 2:21:39
  and has more free time to think. That is a classic that in many
• 2:21:43
  crises in couples relationships occur during the summer period and two summer holidays or even
• 2:21:50
  sometimes two winter holidays. It really increases the leisure time and, therefore,
• 2:21:56
  the problems, the emotional conflicts that are not closed, as they even appear
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  to be used more strongly, because it is like having when one hears the
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  silence that is called, because when listening to the silence he hears things that
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  he has never heard before. So that' s really what happens to all
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  of this. We should also add the problem of body image, right,
• 2:22:22
  Daniel Ah, yes, this is a great problem. It is one of
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  the things that is being commented on every time in the media, it is
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  said, but it seems that nobody has just done anything on that subject,
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  nothing serious, because I believe that there are commercial interests very very very,
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  very intense and very deep in that case and that is why the issue of
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  body image has become the brutal industry, where thousands and thousands and billions of
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  euros move annually. Well, the body image is clear, we' ve
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  also said it many times by passive actio. It is upon the prayer of
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  our society and is another factor that exerts its influence on seasonal affective disorder.
• 2:23:05
  Advertising and social pressure are mainly focused on a famous bikini operation when it arrives
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  it is coming to the good weather, which generates a lot of anxiety and
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  especially among the female group that find the young and middle- aged bands.
• 2:23:22
  What, then, is that standards of berry are often unattainable and open the
• 2:23:26
  door to the frustration of many people, especially when they disagree with their own
• 2:23:31
  body image, when they don' t like it and think they should be
• 2:23:35
  better. That image should be better than you think, which is when the
• 2:23:39
  good weather starts. People who pass, therefore, who have a negatierra self
• 2:23:43
  - image, have the impression that their defects in body quotes become more visible.
• 2:23:50
  And what does it do, then, that put them in a state
• 2:23:52
  of constant alertness and generate frustration and a spade of anxiety and discouragement are discouraged.
• 2:23:58
  It even produces isolation in many cases, because, therefore, to avoid
• 2:24:03
  situations of much social contact, because those people who do not make, do
• 2:24:07
  not physically like themselves, feel more physically exposed to others, then tend to
• 2:24:11
  isolate themselves to avoid that discomfort. When a person is dissatisfied with himself,
• 2:24:16
  especially in terms of his physical appearance, problems come. Clearly it doesn'
• 2:24:24
  t go well that in summer you have to put on less clothes to resist
• 2:24:28
  the other temperatures and it feels even worse when you have to go in vikimi
• 2:24:33
  or tarnish exposing the body more than ever. That' s the reality.
• 2:24:37
  All this is because, moreover, there is a very great social pressure when
• 2:24:41
  it comes to overvaluing the body image and, of course, installing it in
• 2:24:48
  the collective memory, because installing standards of beauty that are absolutely out of place,
• 2:24:54
  well the truth. Hearing all these things, we wonder how we can
• 2:25:00
  deal with seasonal affective disorder, tai as you describe it, because when the
• 2:25:07
  symptoms first appear, it can be confusing for the person and, especially for
• 2:25:11
  people and for family and friends, because of course they will not know and
• 2:25:18
  now what that is about, why that person is like that, if nothing
• 2:25:22
  happens, if nothing has happened, if nothing has happened in his or her
• 2:25:24
  special environment, and there may be people from nearby who may even think wrong
• 2:25:26
  that the person who seems to be loosening his or her working pace or who
• 2:25:33
  is trying us and if he or she thinks that he or she has some
• 2:25:39
  symptoms of the person who is listening to us and who thinks that he or
• 2:25:43
  she has symptoms. It is advisable to talk to some of the closest relatives
• 2:25:48
  and some counselor or therapist or other trusted person about what we are feeling.
• 2:25:54
  It is important that we can put words or things and describe what happens to
• 2:25:58
  us in diagnosed size. There are many things we can do to help.
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  First of all, don' t let us get away with feelings of guilt
• 2:26:09
  thinking that we' re struggling because we' re not responding to other people
• 2:26:13
  ' s expectations. That must be radically discarded. What we' re feeling
• 2:26:16
  is very real and has a very real value and we shouldn' t panic
• 2:26:22
  as experienced, because it' s a disorder like any other and it doesn
• 2:26:26
  ' t say anything derogatory about us. In the same way that he would
• 2:26:28
  have no sense of guilt for having a legia. For example, in spring,
• 2:26:33
  no one feels guilty for having energy. He simply understands that legia is
• 2:26:37
  the result of a biological and physiological situation and point and nothing else, but
• 2:26:43
  he does not feel guilty for having allergy, because we should think about exactly
• 2:26:48
  the same terms with reference to such then important follow the recommendations of medical treatment
• 2:26:54
  if there was, since it is advisable that when noticing them and symptoms,
• 2:27:01
  of course, what I recommend first is that we go to our GP.
• 2:27:03
  That, of course, learn all we can about it and explain the disorder
• 2:27:09
  to others so they can help us. Now, this has a certain level
• 2:27:13
  of balance, because sometimes when you start to consult the Internet, because a
• 2:27:18
  lot of things and a lot of information come out and we can get to
• 2:27:22
  have some kind of informative packaging. That' s not good for us either.
• 2:27:26
  You don' t have to be balanced and discuss that with people and,
• 2:27:31
  of course, try to focus on those things that we find most contrasted,
• 2:27:37
  more solvent and more series. Then, it' s important to do
• 2:27:43
  a lot of exercise, especially exercise in the air. Free, exercise because,
• 2:27:45
  therefore, releases endorphins that are the substances that produce the sensation of well
• 2:27:52
  - stap not only physical, but soul, and then this now increases and
• 2:27:58
  better in this mood. Another important thing to spend time with friends and loved
• 2:28:03
  ones who understand what is happening to us, because they can help us and
• 2:28:07
  provide us with personal contact, intimacy and a sense of connection with people.
• 2:28:15
  We are made as social beings and relationships are part of our life and are
• 2:28:20
  as essential as eating or sleeping. It is also important to be patient and
• 2:28:26
  not alarmed. Let us not expect the symptoms to disappear immediately one day for
• 2:28:31
  the other. They' ll disappear safely, but not overnight. So let
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  ' s not be alarmed and have a little patience. Then ask for help
• 2:28:41
  with household chores or chores and other duties if needed. We should have no
• 2:28:50
  problem asking for help. That' s a mania that many of us have.
• 2:28:56
  We all find it difficult to ask for help, because we have a
• 2:28:58
  feeling that if I ask for help more vulnerable and I am weaker, and
• 2:29:05
  that I project an image of myself that I do not like. But asking
• 2:29:07
  for help has to be me I think you have to be very honest and
• 2:29:09
  very brave to ask for help. Not the other way around. If we
• 2:29:13
  feel that we can' t do anything else important, if we feel that
• 2:29:18
  we can' t concentrate, let' s remember that this is part of
• 2:29:22
  the disorder and that things will get better. If it is true that the
• 2:29:24
  APR produced a certain concentration difficulty. It will be more difficult for us to
• 2:29:31
  focus our attention during the same time we set ourselves on a task, because
• 2:29:35
  we used to do it in difficulty and now it will cost us more.
• 2:29:37
  We will feel a certain heaviness in spite of eyes, a need as to
• 2:29:45
  escape from that. Well, let' s stop, let' s take
• 2:29:50
  a little break, take a few minutes and reprimand the task without worrying,
• 2:29:56
  because that' ll get better, too. It is also important that we
• 2:30:00
  eat well it is worth trying to avoid, above all, the important and
• 2:30:07
  heavy amounts of carbohydrates and sugary snacks. When one is like this, agitated,
• 2:30:11
  worried, or even saddened or melancholic, we tend to eat more food
• 2:30:16
  and especially sugary food, because we make the small effort to replace this sugary
• 2:30:24
  food with more weldable things, such as cereals, whole grains, vegetables and
• 2:30:28
  fruits. It' s worth another important thing. If we feel unmotivated or
• 2:30:33
  have lost the ability to enjoy things we used to like, it is advisable
• 2:30:39
  that we do it the same, even if we do not feel like doing
• 2:30:43
  them. Why, because our ability to enjoy and feel pleasure has not disappeared
• 2:30:48
  nor have we lost it. It has simply been stored in the same place
• 2:30:52
  it has always been and has only been blocked. We can unlock it again
• 2:30:58
  as we can see to unlock me, that it is a motor or a
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  set, doing what, then, doing the same thing that used to activate
• 2:31:07
  that machine, the same thing that used to activate it, now it can
• 2:31:11
  reactivate it. It is only a matter of standing firm in doing so,
• 2:31:16
  even though initially our emotions do not seem to accompany us. I mean,
• 2:31:20
  let' s not expect that if I used to like it I used to
• 2:31:24
  walk and have a great time walking and watching, walking in the sea or
• 2:31:31
  smelling the sea breeze or walking in the countryside, doing any other activity.
• 2:31:33
  Let' s hope that now, with blows, we' ll feel the
• 2:31:35
  same way we used to be. But in the end, if we continue
• 2:31:39
  to do so, it is a sense of well- being and pleasure,
• 2:31:45
  it will inevitably return the emotions. What if he didn' t accompany us
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  at first. It' s because they always have a slower response time than
• 2:31:50
  our decisions. One can decide instantly, but emotions do not follow us instantly.
• 2:31:58
  But this means that we are being answered by the changes. Then,
• 2:32:01
  in the end, in time, they will respond to the changes and always
• 2:32:05
  follow us. I give the example of the train car, which, when
• 2:32:07
  it is a very long train car in kero merchandise, is so long when
• 2:32:09
  the machine has started and starts to advance the first centimetres or the first meters,
• 2:32:15
  the last wagons follow us until the impulse is transmitted to them, because
• 2:32:18
  it is exactly the same. Our feelings at the end are like the wagons
• 2:32:24
  at the end. In the end they will follow us, but they need
• 2:32:28
  a propulsion, a decision. Okay then this is very important to have in
• 2:32:35
  mind also a good sleep routine. How to sleep with reasonable new ones that
• 2:32:39
  approach the natural cycles of daylight. This will help our body function more harmoniously
• 2:32:46
  with our environment, especially in the types of sleep and rest. Natural light
• 2:32:52
  helps to maintain psychological balance in a great way. That is what we said
• 2:32:56
  at the beginning about what is happening or the treatment of some depressive states,
• 2:33:01
  especially in the Nordic countries, a day and less light. This is so
• 2:33:05
  real that it has been proven that the treatment to the exposure of intense light
• 2:33:11
  during regular and controlled periods produces changes by substuacially decreasing the mood states, especially
• 2:33:18
  the depressions, and that is a well- proven scientific reality and then,
• 2:33:24
  Finally, there is a package of sleep measures that we can take to preserve
• 2:33:28
  good gender in Spanish. For example, do not organize critical activities from the
• 2:33:33
  arras before bedtime. This includes physical activity and also the visualization of television programs
• 2:33:37
  or images that are very overstimulant, very fingering to lie down or always try
• 2:33:43
  to do it at the same time, take a warm drink, relaxing type
• 2:33:48
  and with little sugar before bedtime, if possible, take a relaxing bath with
• 2:33:52
  warm water before bedtime, sell slightly and purposely our movements in the last few
• 2:34:00
  minutes before bedtime, that is, become like a little slow camera apply some
• 2:34:03
  relaxation technique, if we know it, on the Internet there is a lot
• 2:34:09
  of information about relaxation techniques And and it is true that, although there is
• 2:34:13
  a lot of junk information, I advise, for example, that they look
• 2:34:18
  for notes. Those who hear us seek, by words, techniques of progressive
• 2:34:22
  muscle relaxation. Progressive muscle relaxation techniques. However, it is a serious method,
• 2:34:28
  a scientific, professional method and it is easy to learn and even easier
• 2:34:33
  to apply. And finally, avoid exciting drinks like coffee or tea or chocolate
• 2:34:39
  drinks two hours before bedtime. This package of suecto measures will help you to
• 2:34:46
  establish a better balance in our natural cycles of sleep, rest, vigil,
• 2:34:50
  etcetera. And this will ultimately be in the interest of solving the tie.
• 2:35:00
  Tremendos, ladies and gentlemen, it has already been all this way to explain
• 2:35:05
  to us the psychologist Daniel Gaso to explain to us the seasonal changes and moods,
• 2:35:13
  like the passage from winter to spring, that peculiarly it is spoken that
• 2:35:18
  even in many places it is said that the induction to suicide is the time
• 2:35:24
  where most occur. In general. Right, that' s Julian. Indeed,
• 2:35:31
  in many cases, when there is already an underlying or predisposition to depressive
• 2:35:39
  states or to other depressive lathes, when to this is added the seasonal affective
• 2:35:46
  disorder, because in many cases there is an incidence in the person and in
• 2:35:52
  some people in very extreme cases, since it can even lead to attempts by
• 2:35:56
  authors yons and suicide. Darling. Daniel has been a pleasure again and with
• 2:36:00
  a theme so suggestive, exotic and at the same time as pertinent as seasonal
• 2:36:05
  changes and moods in the case of spring winter to spring. And well,
• 2:36:13
  it has been very clarifying, of course, yes, especially to our listeners
• 2:36:18
  to explain to them that we should not be frightened, we should not worry,
• 2:36:24
  there is no reason to worry in that sense, because it is something
• 2:36:28
  absolutely transitory. Moreover, whether we take the measures or apply the guidelines we
• 2:36:33
  have suggested. And more so if we have the help of some professional who
• 2:36:37
  exists to us that aspect and we are prepared for especially intermediate situations, like
• 2:36:46
  autumn I already know that we are now coming out of spring. Well,
• 2:36:50
  we have to summer, because then we' ll start with autumn, which
• 2:36:54
  is other midway where climate changes can occur. Again, let us try to
• 2:36:58
  get closer to the most natural way of life, more related to the different
• 2:37:05
  cycles of sunlight and darkness, because that will help us in the clear way
• 2:37:11
  and, above all, keep regular reasonable schedules and also a reasonable and healthy
• 2:37:16
  intake. Those are things that we don' t care about, but they
• 2:37:22
  really can help us enormously. So, I send you a very affectionate hug,
• 2:37:26
  dear friend, a hug and a pleasure as always being on the train
• 2:37:30
  Julio. Thank you, Daniel, so long, so long, or if
• 2:37:54
  you want to visit our website. The website wwwwwww. The train of life.
• 2:38:01
  Point, the train of life and we have arrived just as the one
• 2:38:18
  who does want the thing intentionally, to Dr Rock' s medical office.
• 2:38:22
  There are the different allergies and their possible treatments for them. The Dotor Roca
• 2:38:30
  is going to help us figure out a little bit about the primary reasons for
• 2:38:37
  allergies. Come on, Dr Roca, you' ve wanted to, my
• 2:38:43
  friend Hello, July. Allergies are expected. There is a certain expectation that
• 2:38:50
  they may be somewhat of a source of anger. Right. The truth is
• 2:38:56
  that we are already seeing and treating patients are consulted for this reason. For
• 2:39:03
  example, an allergy to our listeners is a reaction of our immune system.
• 2:39:09
  Those who suffer from it toward something that does not bother most other people,
• 2:39:15
  but those who have allergies are often sensitive to more than one thing. For
• 2:39:20
  example, the substances that usually cause reactions are pollen dust removals, mold spores,
• 2:39:24
  animal dandruff, certain foods, foods, insect bites medicines that can also
• 2:39:28
  cause serious allergies. The truth is our clear immune system is this cannot be
• 2:39:45
  predicted to have an allergy at any time. Right. The truth is that
• 2:39:52
  it is not a question that, as doctors often ask us, why we
• 2:39:58
  have seen the number of allergic people increase so dramatically in recent decades. To
• 2:40:05
  see allergies always there were, but not in the volume in which we have
• 2:40:09
  had to live and have searched and searched and there are some answers. We
• 2:40:16
  know that, apart from the existence of all these aliens, dandruff, animals,
• 2:40:22
  mites that are in our rooms, in our beds, in our ofas,
• 2:40:28
  in addition to the polenes, there must be something else that is the
• 2:40:33
  real cause for some people to develop an energy that others do not develop.
• 2:40:43
  And some answers have been shown. One of them is that it seems that
• 2:40:48
  there are molecules in the air, in suspension from the combustion of the engines
• 2:40:54
  tene and those substances, because they go to the Community tera, in such
• 2:41:01
  a way that we have greater ease to develop an allergy one said seven.
• 2:41:07
  There has to be a protein there, a protein that is strange in our
• 2:41:13
  body and when I came into contact with this protein, then there' s
• 2:41:18
  a reaction. But it is not a moderate reaction, but a tremendously exaggerated
• 2:41:22
  reaction. It can even become dependent on intensity, it can gain to be
• 2:41:26
  mortal. In fact, unfortunately, I do not know if you will remember
• 2:41:31
  from a few years ago here, in the Port of Barcelona, that a
• 2:41:37
  ship loaded with soy arrived. Yes, and it was tremendous, because there
• 2:41:41
  was, well, really a problem. Tremendous leaves of elements also frequent.
• 2:41:50
  As for his powder, it is that looses that it can cause, therefore,
• 2:41:56
  great problems of energy. But here we say in, in our area,
• 2:42:00
  in our territory, we have two large groups that make the sacks and
• 2:42:05
  that that is not springtime, that is not to do with seasonality, but
• 2:42:09
  that we are seeing all year, yes, and that of the pollens that
• 2:42:15
  is so, is seasonal and that is now in sargeo and surely we have
• 2:42:22
  it for a long time or just, so before you commented on the great
• 2:42:26
  amount of rain and also the tons and tons that are in suspension of pollens
• 2:42:31
  in the atmosphere, For example, what you have said of diesel brocio by
• 2:42:37
  the engines, and that is already being warned and in fact, there are
• 2:42:43
  already great marks, not only that they are decreasing, but that they are
• 2:42:48
  stopping making tenel engines. In other words, it is expected that in order
• 2:42:54
  not to remember which year no longer exists, tenel cars will no longer be
• 2:43:01
  manufactured, all of them pure gasolines. It' s just that we turn
• 2:43:09
  our planet into some sort of latrine, the polluted seas. The plastic is
• 2:43:15
  everywhere, even in the whales' panties, in the atmosphere. Molecules or
• 2:43:22
  some are natural and must be there because it is their place. God put
• 2:43:26
  them there for a purpose. We are the pollens, but then the men
• 2:43:31
  add there, then, a lofadal of strange molecules because of fossil fuels and
• 2:43:37
  other substances. Some of them are perhaps less concentrated and therefore perhaps less motivated,
• 2:43:46
  but others are not, and one of them sees the products that eliminates
• 2:43:50
  gas combustion, DS engines. So, this is no longer a problem that
• 2:43:58
  is known now. We have been in the past for years, and we
• 2:44:01
  know whether to get into chemistry, the chemical route, because to say that
• 2:44:07
  this is a problem that has been known for years and that a solution has
• 2:44:11
  to be found. And finally, to God, thank you, because it
• 2:44:15
  seems that the ten, the best ten have their days numbered and that this
• 2:44:22
  we suppose could improve. It should also improve the volume of allergic people and
• 2:44:28
  other respiratory problems that we find all year round, because not only will combustion
• 2:44:35
  lead to harmful contamination that will cause bergias, but it will generate pollution that
• 2:44:39
  will cause a multitude and multitude of respiratory pathologies. Because of this contamination,
• 2:44:50
  respiratory allergies hope to see, especially allergies that have to do with causing asthma.
• 2:44:56
  This is all delicate, because there are cases that can become highly sensitive
• 2:45:05
  and seriously endanger the health of people with asthma. There are people who suffer
• 2:45:13
  to a superlative degree. Yes, and that is also to say that there
• 2:45:20
  are cases in which they are more serious, because there are people who good
• 2:45:24
  to come into contact with an allergen, because it will segregate greater volume of
• 2:45:30
  mucus, block, there will be basis of sneezing respiratory dity. But there
• 2:45:37
  ' s a kind of percentage of patients who are the worst and most at
• 2:45:43
  risk to me. But what they do is a bronchial spasm. The bronque
• 2:45:46
  or, when it comes into contact with the engene, it contracts. It
• 2:45:52
  ' s the muscle part of ittertrophy. It contracts by preventing the passage of
• 2:45:56
  air and of course that has tremendous consequences. Well, even as you said,
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  very rightly they can carry and, because of the facial we have lived
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  it, you can lead to death the patient in case at that moment the
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  doctor is not there, it takes time to consult, sometimes you have to
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  move the little success of the family. How to react, especially if there
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  are rural areas Now it is mature, that is, complications. There'
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  s no emergency service 24 hours, there' s no hospital nearby. Well,
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  unfortunately, we have experienced this situation and the patient has entered critical espado
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  or is already terminal. It' s very serious, very serious. Sure,
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  sure, sure, treatments and therapies. In addition to nasal sprays,
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  antistamines, antiallergic injections, there is also the issue of vaccines to assess the
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  possibility of detecting which is the causative agent. Right, the issue of vaccines.
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  The vaccine you already know means that the treatment will be punctured an intermuscular
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  subcutaneous as it is punctured, and this can sometimes reinforce new problems. You
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  have to be very careful. Some of us prefer. I unquestionably prefer the
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  oral way has the great advantage that the organism will take what it needs and
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  what will not be discarded by the lactrin and we will have far fewer problems,
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  much less complications. These laboratories care about and make study, research and
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  market vaccines. And this kind of pathway we call vaccines, we call it
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  isotherapy. It would be the same thing that causes the disease. We use
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  it as a medicine, because there are very prestigious laboratories and that really their
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  products work wonderfully well. Even some very frequent allergies have already typified small bottles,
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  type vejiguita of plastic, since, with the monodoses of this vaccine from
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  sotherapy to defend the patient. The problem we also live in is that,
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  as we are immersed in this valley of pollution, because sometimes the patient heals
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  from an allergy and developed a new one, this may happen. I see
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  it relatively often. When a patient has given in a treatment, has been
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  positive, beneficial, The patient has improved dramatically, has even healed and after
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  x years it reappears with the inheritance as already one suspects and many times when
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  we repeat the energy tests, we discover, therefore, a new cause.
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  And the truth is that this is quite, quite common with cabbages, with
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  complex foods, a very exciting topic, but it is quite complex. Yes,
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  it has a very particular complexity, Dr Rock before we say goodbye.
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  There' s an allergy. There' s an allergy, an answer to
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  this big question. There' s an allergy. In recent times, it
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  wasn' t that much. I' m saying not to reminisce, either.
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  In the past there were things, for that is good, that we
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  have improved a lot and that are and better that they have disappeared. But
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  there are other things that don' t. And once there was something in
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  the environment. I' m not talking about repression of religion, which there
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  was also a lot of it, but there was a sense of respect.
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  Let us call the figure of that God who somehow did not know where he
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  was at all right, but who had created us. We have become allergic,
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  because our society has become allergic, genuinely allergic to contact with God,
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  to the search for that God we so need. Right. The truth is,
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  you' re absolutely right. There are words to which society has a
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  good share. He seems to have an allergy. One of them is that
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  word God. Another allergy is the word church, to which one speaks,
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  the Church of God, the Gospel, the Gospel, Christianity, etcetera.
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  Well, we see that there is in some of our neighbors, in the
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  cosses, with which we relate some kind of rashes. There is no allergy
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  red because well, what happens is that when we analyze and when we speak
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  in depth and there are people who are very is no and good, because
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  they have an attitude towards life, in front of the universe. On the
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  other hand, you have others that not others, because you will really reason
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  some of them because being at an intermediate point of agnosticism, of difficulty in
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  accepting, but there are some that do. So, when we go to
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  the cause, I have asked myself good, why people, when traditionally the
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  human being, since prehistory, we know that the human being has sought God
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  through religion, religion, because it has that purpose, then, when the
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  human being has sought God above all in priscialism. We know that God comes
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  to pass, but in all cultures, all over the world, from history,
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  we see that there is this search for the spiritual and suddenly it is
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  like that, because you generally said it very acesarously, a kind of allergy
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  And of course, then you have to realize the s of the one you
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  live. The sequence is the one we live with. It is a society
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  that has in Jewish Christian principles, especially Christian. Now the Jewish, it
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  ' s there at the root, but we don' t see it so
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  much anymore, we don' t perceive it so much anymore, but the
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  Christian. And then people often have no problems with God, but with Christians.
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  There are these rades and there' s the secret. So, I
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  always tell people that we share the faith is that the Christian must live,
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  to live in this city, he must try to be of an extraordinarily formal
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  conduct, because that pleases God And, besides that it is light to the
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  world. Look at yesterday, at the Bible study, at the Ibestia,
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  with the brothers of March, we were already commenting on so well- known
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  texts of you are the salt of the world. And he does not say,
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  Lord Jesus, you have the salt of the world, but you are.
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  And then he says he also speaks of the light and also says that
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  he is the light of the world and says that we are the light of
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  the world. There is there a reflection of its holiness and its characteristics.
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  But sometimes they will be the dear Jew. We do it so poorly.
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  We do it so poorly that then people do not see in many Christians or
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  in many pseudo- Christians what they should see us. Then we blame God
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  for everything. God is like this since Adam and Eve sinned. You know,
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  Adam blamed the woman, the serpent woman, and the serpent had to
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  shut up with was guilty. But the press will be guilty and that'
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  s where we all go. Many times we blame God for our misfortunes,
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  for our insanity, for our lights, for the misfortunes for which we are
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  responsible and say more, the name of God. People curse God' s
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  name when it goes wrong, but they don' t remember God when it
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  ' s right. It' s a society full of contractions, so I
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  think we can heal from that ally to God, this allergy to Christianity and
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  it' s knowing him personally. God can be known personally. Moreover,
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  although he is the highest character in history, neither kings nor anyone else is
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  more than God. But God is in the position of humility, in Christ
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  ' s stubbornness and is ready to receive us all right now, each one
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  of us, and he has the answer. He is the answer, because
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  you know little girls of the equation of this world, to the personal of
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  Christ who has nothing left. This is devastation, moral devastation, devastation in
• 2:55:07
  every way. And well, he is the Creator God, he knows our
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  nature and he has so much compassion for us that we still often feel his
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  caress in the midst of our ignorance, in the midst of our evil doing,
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  in the midst of our failures that we all already have on a daily
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  basis. But he is still there to leave as the eternal rock of the
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  books we can trust, because he has overcome, we will overcome so it
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  is, dear friend, I believe it is a masterful conclusion to take into
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  account that counterpoint of something that seems to us also vital for the health of
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  the soul and for the destiny of the human being here and now, because
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  purgatory does not exist. This is a yes that is a true invention,
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  it is an invention of the Middle Ages, nonexistent in the Bible. They
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  do not allude to that or out of amazement, because Dr Roca, dear
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  friend, we are not satisfied with what you have told us to take into
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  account some things. Yes, and especially to go to consultations And it is
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  necessary, well, welcome, Thank you, Thank you, a big hug,
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  the whole audience until then embraces goodbye. Even we always had the evangelical
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  churches a place of peace and friendship. You can freely attend the nearest evangelical
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  church in your neighborhood or your population. You' ll be very welcome.