Latest / Brian Thomas / H.E.A.R.T. 4 Seniors Foundation - Elderly Care Technology
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Eight o five and fifty five KCD Talks station a
- 0:02Speaker 1: very Happy Friday to you. Let's move over to something
- 0:05Speaker 1: that is truly happy. Born of problems and an ever
- 0:09Speaker 1: growing population of seniors out in the world needing assistance,
- 0:12Speaker 1: whether in the home or in an assisted living facility,
- 0:15Speaker 1: and the problems and complications that go along with that
- 0:17Speaker 1: because quite often they are not properly cared for, which
- 0:21Speaker 1: is a sad reality, but it is in fact a reality.
- 0:23Speaker 1: When I think of my dad in the facility when
- 0:25Speaker 1: he was dealing with his Alzheimers. My mom was there
- 0:27Speaker 1: every single day because, of course she loved him, but also,
- 0:32Speaker 1: of course because she was painfully aware of the realities
- 0:35Speaker 1: of being an assisted living facility and that he would
- 0:37Speaker 1: not be tended to her level of desire. And that
- 0:40Speaker 1: is literally the case everywhere. Welcome back to the fifty
- 0:42Speaker 1: five KOC Morning Show from Heart Number four Seniors dot Org,
- 0:45Speaker 1: Hard for Seniors dot R. We're going to talk about
- 0:47Speaker 1: what they are doing for seniors out there. Patty and
- 0:49Speaker 1: Roger back in the studio to talk about something that
- 0:51Speaker 1: I had no idea about now. Previously, Patty Roger, you
- 0:54Speaker 1: were talking about the modern technology you have the incontinence
- 0:57Speaker 1: undergarments to immediately notify staff through a software app that
- 1:01Speaker 1: someone needs to have their diaper change, because of course,
- 1:05Speaker 1: if they don't, they'll just follow the schedule that they're on,
- 1:07Speaker 1: and that person, your loved one, may be wallowing in
- 1:09Speaker 1: it for hours and hours before they ultimately reach the
- 1:13Speaker 1: place on the schedule, or they're dry when it comes
- 1:16Speaker 1: time for them to be checked on, and five seconds
- 1:19Speaker 1: after the nurse leaves the room, that's when it happens.
- 1:21Speaker 1: So the software as fires up and it provides a
- 1:25Speaker 1: whole lot of other information. It's just an amazing development
- 1:27Speaker 1: and thanks to Heart for Seniors for that. But the
- 1:30Speaker 1: reason that is a problem, I understand is wallowing and
- 1:32Speaker 1: that can lead to a urinary tract infection and that
- 1:35Speaker 1: is not good. But what else can lead to a
- 1:38Speaker 1: urinary tract infection? And I found that out this morning, laziness.
- 1:42Speaker 1: If I could sum it up, if I got that right,
- 1:44Speaker 1: Let's start with ro and Patty. I love having you here,
- 1:47Speaker 1: thank you, and I understand the phone's ringing off the
- 1:49Speaker 1: hook over hard for seniors.
- 1:50Speaker 2: We appreciate all the phone calls so much from all
- 1:54Speaker 2: of your listeners, all the donations, we really do appreciate it.
- 1:58Speaker 2: But yeah, let's talk about the what's really going on
- 2:02Speaker 2: here with regards to laziness.
- 2:03Speaker 1: Well, and it started with this. You call this a TP. Yeah,
- 2:07Speaker 1: well it's a little tent. It's a little placard and
- 2:10Speaker 1: they brought it and immediately handed it to me and
- 2:12Speaker 1: it says do not insert urinary catheter without family consent.
- 2:17Speaker 1: I was looking at that. Wait a second, why would
- 2:20Speaker 1: anybody just sort of randomly use a catheter on someone.
- 2:22Speaker 1: Roger's got the answer to that, and it's sad and disturbing.
- 2:25Speaker 1: Roger explain how this happens and why it's a bad thing.
- 2:28Speaker 3: Well, there are reasons for using a urinary catheter a
- 2:34Speaker 3: foley catheter, which are pretty well spelled out by the
- 2:37Speaker 3: CDC guidelines. But what we see often happening as we
- 2:43Speaker 3: have patients, in particular in the hospital environment, where the
- 2:48Speaker 3: person's using the call light to go to the bathroom
- 2:52Speaker 3: or you know, they're they're having incontinent needs and they
- 2:58Speaker 3: summon the staff and this becomes a problem and at
- 3:02Speaker 3: some point the staff decides, well, we're just going to
- 3:04Speaker 3: insert a catheter, and that is not an appropriate reason.
- 3:09Speaker 3: That's a staff convenience issue. That is not an appropriate
- 3:12Speaker 3: reason to insert a catheter. And this is really a
- 3:15Speaker 3: problem because catheter associated UTIs are the highest reason for
- 3:23Speaker 3: infections in the hospital environment.
- 3:25Speaker 1: Well, you're introducing a foreign object in an area that
- 3:28Speaker 1: shouldn't have a foreign object in under normal conditions, and
- 3:31Speaker 1: I would think that is a ripe opportunity to bring
- 3:33Speaker 1: about an infection.
- 3:34Speaker 3: Correct. And so what we see happening in particular with
- 3:37Speaker 3: the seniors is about seventy five percent of these people
- 3:42Speaker 3: are going to get UTI. It's a very high infection rate.
- 3:46Speaker 3: And once they have that UTI, it goes to the bladder,
- 3:50Speaker 3: it goes to the kidneys that can go to the bloodstream.
- 3:53Speaker 3: It's a high mortality rate for seniors. In particular, for seniors,
- 3:59Speaker 3: they're vulnerable to this. So, yeah, this came up in
- 4:03Speaker 3: our technology pilot that we're doing. We've seen it happen
- 4:06Speaker 3: a number of times now, so you know, at this
- 4:10Speaker 3: point we think it's an education and an advocacy issue.
- 4:15Speaker 3: The best way to handle this is to communicate with
- 4:18Speaker 3: the staff of the hospital as much as you can,
- 4:23Speaker 3: as effectively as you can that you do not want
- 4:26Speaker 3: that cather inserted unless there's an appropriate reason for it.
- 4:30Speaker 1: Well, and you know, again, I had no idea that
- 4:33Speaker 1: this was a problem. It's born of laziness. They don't
- 4:35Speaker 1: want to deal with having to do a diaper change
- 4:38Speaker 1: or something. But the person doesn't really need a catheter
- 4:39Speaker 1: because everything I guess is functioning quote unquote normally. But
- 4:45Speaker 1: that they would come in and just put it in.
- 4:46Speaker 1: I always thought that if there was a catheter in place,
- 4:48Speaker 1: and that was because a doctor ordered it, I didn't
- 4:50Speaker 1: realize they had the leeway and liberty to just go
- 4:52Speaker 1: ahead and put one in anytime they damn well felt well.
- 4:55Speaker 3: Actually, it's the opposite of that. Sometimes. I think Patty's
- 4:59Speaker 3: mother when she was in the hospital had an order
- 5:02Speaker 3: on the chart to not put why not use a
- 5:05Speaker 3: urinary cath a specific order.
- 5:07Speaker 2: I had a specific order to not put a cather
- 5:10Speaker 2: in her because if you remember, we've talked about this
- 5:13Speaker 2: years prior to that, she had broken her hip. They
- 5:15Speaker 2: had used a catherterin surgery and they didn't take it
- 5:18Speaker 2: out for days. After we kept saying it, she dealt
- 5:20Speaker 2: with a UTI for nine months. Oh, we couldn't get
- 5:23Speaker 2: rid of it. So then she was back in the
- 5:25Speaker 2: hospital for a completely different reason I specifically put in
- 5:29Speaker 2: the order, do not cather her. She needs assistance to
- 5:32Speaker 2: get up to go to the bathroom. But it works.
- 5:35Speaker 2: She's not incontinent, she can hold it until she gets there.
- 5:39Speaker 2: She kept ringing, ring and ring and ring and ring
- 5:41Speaker 2: and ring, and they wouldn't come in, they wouldn't get
- 5:42Speaker 2: her up, and so at night they caught her, even
- 5:47Speaker 2: though I had a note in the file not to cathere.
- 5:49Speaker 2: Immediately went back in the next day and told him
- 5:51Speaker 2: to pull it because and again she got a UTI.
- 5:53Speaker 2: Oh no, just in that short time period. It was
- 5:56Speaker 2: so frustrating.
- 5:57Speaker 1: Well, put the explanation point on Roger's pointed out, you
- 6:00Speaker 1: can die from these infections.
- 6:02Speaker 2: My father in law died of sepsis from a UTI
- 6:06Speaker 2: in twenty four hours from a catheter, from a from
- 6:09Speaker 2: a catheter.
- 6:10Speaker 3: I would say the numbers that we've seen, as much
- 6:13Speaker 3: as seventy five percent of the UTIs that occurrent hospitals
- 6:17Speaker 3: are from the catheters.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Not a quote unuote naturally occurring thing. No, because you
- 6:23Speaker 1: can get a UTI without a catheter, correctly correct.
- 6:27Speaker 3: It is the most common calls of secondary bloodstream infections,
- 6:32Speaker 3: and those are deadly. That's a trip to ICU. At
- 6:36Speaker 3: that point, you're in trouble. And so why would we
- 6:40Speaker 3: want to use a catheter because somebody's using their call
- 6:44Speaker 3: light or because somebody needs assistance going to the bathroom,
- 6:49Speaker 3: And that then becomes staff convenience And it's absolutely not
- 6:53Speaker 3: a reason to do this. And when you're doing this
- 6:56Speaker 3: with a thirty year old, that's one thing. But when
- 6:59Speaker 3: you're doing this to an eighty year old or a
- 7:01Speaker 3: seventy five year old or an eighty five year old,
- 7:04Speaker 3: you're now dealing with a completely different problem. A lot
- 7:08Speaker 3: of these folks just don't recover and it's a pretty
- 7:12Speaker 3: common cause of death. So we want to educate, We
- 7:17Speaker 3: want to we want to teach families how to advocate
- 7:20Speaker 3: because these people need advocates they do. They really need
- 7:24Speaker 3: family members to step up and say no, no, no.
- 7:27Speaker 3: So we came up with HEART did this.
- 7:32Speaker 1: Tent.
- 7:33Speaker 3: It's like a folding tent you can put on the
- 7:35Speaker 3: bedside table. It's a sign that says do not insert
- 7:39Speaker 3: yourinary catheter without family consent. We're giving these away heart Is.
- 7:44Speaker 2: They're free. All you have to do is reach out
- 7:46Speaker 2: five one, three, four for four twenty thirteen. You can
- 7:49Speaker 2: email us, you can call. We're sending these out free.
- 7:53Speaker 2: Along with that one page little flyer there that gives
- 7:57Speaker 2: them the CDC guidelines does cut what's real and what's not.
- 8:02Speaker 1: Also, it's not just some sort of random march arbitrary
- 8:05Speaker 1: thing coming from a family member. Here is our placard
- 8:07Speaker 1: saying do not do it without our consent, and here's
- 8:09Speaker 1: the CDC guidelines go along with it and telling you
- 8:11Speaker 1: exactly why. Correct. Oh, that's outstanding. Correct, that's outstanding. Well,
- 8:16Speaker 1: you know the website, as they pointed out, you can
- 8:17Speaker 1: get your plackard through the website too. Just click on advocacy.
- 8:20Speaker 1: There's a pulldown many's at the top of heart number
- 8:22Speaker 1: four seniors dot org. Click on advocacy, get your placard.
- 8:27Speaker 1: Call it a tpe, called a tent. It's a piece
- 8:29Speaker 1: of paper that folds into something that stands upright and says,
- 8:34Speaker 1: do not insert yourn a catheter without family consent. Now
- 8:36Speaker 1: is there? I'm sorry, I'm still a lawyer. Is there
- 8:41Speaker 1: liability connected with this? Because if they're not under CDC
- 8:45Speaker 1: guidelines supposed to insert a catheter and they do it
- 8:49Speaker 1: simply because they don't want to respond to the calllite
- 8:52Speaker 1: and that leads to a urinary tract infection, which leads
- 8:55Speaker 1: to the death of a loved one. Is that exposed
- 8:57Speaker 1: the Obviously, I'm saying this out loud in these pigg
- 9:00Speaker 1: terms because people in the healthcare community might hear my
- 9:02Speaker 1: voice and go, oh jeez, I didn't realize we might
- 9:05Speaker 1: be sued for that. Is that potential right there?
- 9:06Speaker 3: That sort of well, absolutely, you go, and the CDC
- 9:11Speaker 3: makes it very clear that catheters are not to be
- 9:14Speaker 3: used as a substitute for nursing care, period you go, period.
- 9:20Speaker 3: And when they do this as a substitute for nursing care,
- 9:25Speaker 3: they just violated the CDC guidelines for use of these.
- 9:29Speaker 3: All right, So yeah, I think there's liability. But here's
- 9:32Speaker 3: the thing, if you think about it, when people go
- 9:35Speaker 3: in the hospital, when their loved ones in the hospital,
- 9:38Speaker 3: we have this almost unbending trust that the hospitals are
- 9:45Speaker 3: the pinnacle of our healthcare system and they're going to
- 9:49Speaker 3: just do the right thing. They're not going to do
- 9:52Speaker 3: anything like this to our loved one. This is where
- 9:55Speaker 3: education and advocacy comes in, because if you don't know,
- 10:00Speaker 3: if you haven't educated yourself on this issue, and if
- 10:03Speaker 3: you don't advocate, You're going to come in and tomorrow
- 10:06Speaker 3: morning when you visit your mom or your dad, and
- 10:09Speaker 3: there's going to be a catheter in them. So the
- 10:12Speaker 3: idea here is to stop that before it happens by
- 10:16Speaker 3: putting the sign up, maybe getting an order on the chart,
- 10:19Speaker 3: which they will ignore sometimes, Patty, but you have to advocate.
- 10:24Speaker 1: You have to advocate. You have to protect.
- 10:26Speaker 3: Your elderly loved ones from this problem because it will happen.
- 10:31Speaker 1: Period. It will happen. Two people sitting in front of
- 10:34Speaker 1: me the seat all the time, one who lost her
- 10:36Speaker 1: father as a consequence of this happening. In spite of
- 10:39Speaker 1: the order in the chart, do not insert your in
- 10:42Speaker 1: a catheter without family consent. Get your placard at heartfort
- 10:45Speaker 1: Seniors dot com. Call them up at five one, three,
- 10:47Speaker 1: four four four, twenty thirteen. More info from Heart for Seniors,
- 10:50Speaker 1: Patty and Roger. After these brief words, don't go away.
- 10:52Speaker 4: Fifty five krc RC the talk station.
- 10:57Speaker 1: Hey, twenty fifty five KRCD Talk Station, Very happy Friday
- 11:00Speaker 1: to you. Distressing news, but I am so happy to
- 11:03Speaker 1: be in a position to let other people know about this.
- 11:04Speaker 1: I certainly had no clue in spite of the fact
- 11:06Speaker 1: my dad was in an assistant living facility and did
- 11:08Speaker 1: have a cather to one point over use of catheters,
- 11:12Speaker 1: there are inappropriate uses and their appropriate uses for catheters,
- 11:15Speaker 1: and so Heart for Seniors Patty Roger here with their
- 11:17Speaker 1: little placard, which you can get by simply calling five
- 11:20Speaker 1: one three four four four twenty thirteen free for you.
- 11:23Speaker 1: Go to the website Heart number four Seniors dot org,
- 11:26Speaker 1: click on the advocacy link get your placard. There it says,
- 11:30Speaker 1: do not insert your ain area catheter without family consent.
- 11:33Speaker 1: They're using them inappropriately as a substitute for obtaining your inspecimens.
- 11:37Speaker 1: For example, for dealing with a senior that might need
- 11:40Speaker 1: to get assistance to go to the bathroom, not for incontinence,
- 11:43Speaker 1: just because it's inconvenient for the staff to have to
- 11:46Speaker 1: respond to a call aid. So in goes a catheter
- 11:48Speaker 1: and along with that a good chance of getting a
- 11:51Speaker 1: urinary tract infection, which for most, notably the senior community,
- 11:53Speaker 1: we learn from Roger that they could be deadly. Patty
- 11:56Speaker 1: knows from this personally her father died from UTI that
- 11:59Speaker 1: he shouldn't have had a catheter in him and they
- 12:01Speaker 1: put it in anyway. Let's address the pushback patty. His
- 12:05Speaker 1: chart said do not use a catheter. They did it anyway.
- 12:08Speaker 1: And I know that you've had some experience with these
- 12:10Speaker 1: little placards that some institutions welcomed them and will honor them,
- 12:15Speaker 1: while others will remove them from the patient's room. It
- 12:18Speaker 1: depends on who you're dealing with.
- 12:19Speaker 2: So we just started the advocacy a few weeks ago.
- 12:22Speaker 2: We've already had one local hospital that embraced it, completely
- 12:27Speaker 2: supported it, sat their bedside, The family loved it. They
- 12:32Speaker 2: had open communication, and I'm happy to report the senior
- 12:37Speaker 2: did not get a catheter inserted in and they came
- 12:39Speaker 2: in and they helped him to the restroom and he
- 12:41Speaker 2: got out totally fine and he's back home, wonderful. We
- 12:44Speaker 2: had another situation and another institution where the tent was
- 12:49Speaker 2: removed and stayed.
- 12:52Speaker 1: A placard because it's a state tent. I think of
- 12:54Speaker 1: that camping.
- 12:55Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little tpe. It's a little it's a
- 12:57Speaker 2: little triangle tpe.
- 12:58Speaker 1: It's not very large.
- 12:59Speaker 2: Yeah, it's per It just sits right bedside. You can
- 13:01Speaker 2: see a picture of it on our website. And they
- 13:04Speaker 2: took it out. They took it out then said that
- 13:06Speaker 2: we had to meet with hospital administration and the family
- 13:09Speaker 2: was like why, Like I want this on the chart.
- 13:11Speaker 2: Like all I'm saying is don't insert a catheter until
- 13:15Speaker 2: you call me and tell me why why.
- 13:17Speaker 1: And then you can look at the appropriate indications, which
- 13:20Speaker 1: information hard for seniors will give you along with a
- 13:23Speaker 1: TP ten placard. Call it what you will when is
- 13:25Speaker 1: it appropriate acute urinary retention or bladder outlet obstruction? So
- 13:30Speaker 1: a family member can say why are you inserting the
- 13:32Speaker 1: catheter when there's no obstruction, When they have the conversation,
- 13:36Speaker 1: and then they can go through and say why, Well,
- 13:38Speaker 1: because your father has acute urinary retention, you can say, okay,
- 13:42Speaker 1: that's a reason, and it justifies the cath use other
- 13:44Speaker 1: accurate other reasons, accurate measurement of urinary output in critically
- 13:49Speaker 1: ill patients, perioperative use for selected surgical procedures, check assistance
- 13:56Speaker 1: in healing open sacral or paranial wounds, fine, patient requires
- 13:59Speaker 1: prolonged and mobilization, unstable spine, multiple traumatic injuries, fine, and finally,
- 14:05Speaker 1: end of life comfort care. So in those situations it's justified.
- 14:09Speaker 1: But if you have the conversation with a family member,
- 14:11Speaker 1: my medical provider friends, you can at least explain it
- 14:13Speaker 1: to them. This is within the CDC guidelines on what
- 14:16Speaker 1: you are proposing to do, in which case the family
- 14:18Speaker 1: member can say, okay, I consent, Catherin problem solved.
- 14:23Speaker 4: Correct.
- 14:24Speaker 1: That's the process. That's the process.
- 14:26Speaker 3: Unfortunately, what happens instead is second shift nurse decides to
- 14:31Speaker 3: insert to catheter because they're short stout, they're busy, they
- 14:35Speaker 3: don't want to answer the call light. And now we've
- 14:38Speaker 3: introduced a deadly in fact potentially deadly infection to a
- 14:42Speaker 3: senior and it's just a sad outcome at that point.
- 14:45Speaker 1: Well, and you know, I will observe and comment maybe
- 14:48Speaker 1: again from this because we've talked about it before. It
- 14:51Speaker 1: is very difficult, like with senior living facilities to get
- 14:54Speaker 1: people to even work there, and when they do work there,
- 14:58Speaker 1: they usually underpaid. And overworld they've got more people than
- 15:01Speaker 1: they're taken care of them. They should be taken care of.
- 15:03Speaker 1: Following that again, checking the linens and the diapers schedule,
- 15:08Speaker 1: there's only so much of those people can do, but
- 15:10Speaker 1: heartforce seniors hard. The number four Seniors dot org has
- 15:13Speaker 1: got great technology not to stand in the way of
- 15:16Speaker 1: them wanting to do some easy path out of dealing with
- 15:19Speaker 1: your loved one long while by like inserting urinary cathers,
- 15:22Speaker 1: but getting the software and the diapers that tell the
- 15:25Speaker 1: individuals there and that they need to be changed as
- 15:28Speaker 1: opposed to following the schedule just doing it when it's necessary.
- 15:31Speaker 1: Simple things like that can make their jobs much easier
- 15:34Speaker 1: and maybe even making a more appealing profession to pursue.
- 15:37Speaker 1: It's a tough gig.
- 15:39Speaker 2: It's a tough gig, and so many families. Now, I mean,
- 15:41Speaker 2: I'm a sandwich generation. I've got my parents and I've
- 15:45Speaker 2: got my kids, and I'm right stuck in the middle,
- 15:47Speaker 2: still working. And I mean, here's the deal.
- 15:49Speaker 1: We're all.
- 15:50Speaker 2: I mean, my mom's independent living at home. Your mom's
- 15:53Speaker 2: independent living in it.
- 15:54Speaker 3: She is.
- 15:54Speaker 2: They want to stay at home, and I want them
- 15:57Speaker 2: to stay at home, but we need the tools. So like,
- 16:00Speaker 2: my mom has the watch right and she's not in
- 16:03Speaker 2: continent yet.
- 16:04Speaker 1: So I'll tell you what hold on that. Since we
- 16:06Speaker 1: really dedicated a good amount of time in the first
- 16:07Speaker 1: couple of segments to the urinary tract issue, people now
- 16:10Speaker 1: know about it and can call five one, three, four, four, four,
- 16:13Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, let's remind people about the watch and the
- 16:16Speaker 1: other technology because this, if you haven't heard about it,
- 16:19Speaker 1: this is going to make everyone's life much better. Whether
- 16:23Speaker 1: you're a provider, or you're the loved one in bed
- 16:26Speaker 1: getting tended to, or you're a family member of the
- 16:28Speaker 1: loved one and you feel like you're a witch end,
- 16:30Speaker 1: let's make your life easier. Heart number four seniors dot
- 16:33Speaker 1: or don't go away. We'll bring them back and share
- 16:36Speaker 1: their experiences. And they want you to share your stories too.
- 16:39Speaker 1: If you've got a urinary tract infection story, it sounds
- 16:41Speaker 1: weird to ask for it, you can get that on
- 16:44Speaker 1: you can post it online at Heart for Seniors dot
- 16:46Speaker 1: or correct and you're you want people, we want to share.
- 16:49Speaker 2: Their We want their stories because we want to be
- 16:51Speaker 2: able to help them, and we want to educate other people.
- 16:53Speaker 2: And we're going to post those stories with their permission,
- 16:57Speaker 2: just to have them out there.
- 16:58Speaker 4: Again.
- 16:58Speaker 2: It's about education and add see, we have to educate
- 17:02Speaker 2: family members on how to take care of these seniors.
- 17:05Speaker 1: You got to educate providers as well. Apparently eight twenty
- 17:08Speaker 1: six right now fifty five k CD talk station don't away.
- 17:11Speaker 4: This is fifty five krc an iHeart.
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- 17:19Speaker 1: station Love for Seniors. Actually it's Heart for Seniors, Heart
- 17:22Speaker 1: to number four Seniors dot or just doing wonderful, wonderful
- 17:26Speaker 1: things for seniors that are dealing with get an assisted
- 17:28Speaker 1: living facility or getting care at home. Obviously frail, maybe
- 17:32Speaker 1: struggling with other medical complications. Family members worried about them,
- 17:35Speaker 1: keeping track of them, helping out when they can other
- 17:38Speaker 1: people like care providers and assisted living facilities or in hospitals.
- 17:41Speaker 1: They have a lot of work on their plate, and
- 17:42Speaker 1: quite often, as we found out in the last couple
- 17:44Speaker 1: of segments, they're well taking a shortcut route putting it
- 17:47Speaker 1: a catheter in when they are not under a CDC
- 17:51Speaker 1: guidelines to even get a catheter. So you can get
- 17:53Speaker 1: your little placard, put it next to your loved one's bed.
- 17:55Speaker 1: No catheter without family consent, Fine, do that. It's easy
- 17:59Speaker 1: to get the placard five one three, four four four
- 18:00Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. But moving away from the UTIs I've had
- 18:03Speaker 1: you folks on this as Patty and Roger in studio
- 18:06Speaker 1: from Hard for Seniors about the advancements in technology that
- 18:10Speaker 1: is helping I would say family members as well as
- 18:13Speaker 1: medical providers perhaps get ahead of problems and solve some
- 18:18Speaker 1: of the issues with this wonderful diagnostic tool that that
- 18:21Speaker 1: watch has become. So remind my listeners and those who
- 18:25Speaker 1: don't know what you're going to be talking about about
- 18:27Speaker 1: this amazing, amazing thing that everybody hearing my voice can
- 18:30Speaker 1: get for their loved one. It's a smart watch, but
- 18:33Speaker 1: it's a whole lot smarter than a smart watch.
- 18:35Speaker 2: It is it's alert response technology, and it's really taking
- 18:38Speaker 2: the watch and putting it with our software system, which
- 18:40Speaker 2: is what is the most powerful piece ever.
- 18:43Speaker 1: That's the app.
- 18:44Speaker 2: That's the app, and it now can be used for
- 18:46Speaker 2: home base. And here's the deal with it. So you go,
- 18:49Speaker 2: your loved one goes to the doctor's office maybe once
- 18:52Speaker 2: a year or twice a year, they get their vitals
- 18:55Speaker 2: and they leave, right, nobody knows after they leave from
- 18:59Speaker 2: that one in take of the vitals, what really goes on.
- 19:02Speaker 2: This is twenty four seven monitoring and not just heart rate,
- 19:07Speaker 2: not just pull socks, not just HRV, two feet on
- 19:11Speaker 2: the ground, symmetry walking. I mean, my mom, right, I
- 19:14Speaker 2: mean I can detect early on. I want to prevent
- 19:16Speaker 2: a fall. I don't want more falls. And what's really
- 19:19Speaker 2: interesting is it takes in time. So for example, last night,
- 19:23Speaker 2: I can pull up and see exactly what her low
- 19:26Speaker 2: heart rate, what her high heart rate was when it
- 19:28Speaker 2: was all the above, and there is a correlation, for example,
- 19:32Speaker 2: in when she takes her medication. So everybody should understand
- 19:36Speaker 2: because we've had members that have been working with us
- 19:39Speaker 2: who kept falling and the family members were like, why
- 19:41Speaker 2: are they falling? Put the technology on and we're realizing, well,
- 19:45Speaker 2: it's at five am, it's at seven am. Well, ironically
- 19:48Speaker 2: it's after they've taken their medication. So for example, if
- 19:52Speaker 2: you're on a medication, it's very sensitive the older that
- 19:55Speaker 2: you get.
- 19:56Speaker 1: Okay, And one of the ones that Roger brought up
- 19:58Speaker 1: in the break was Flomax trouble urinating. You're getting up
- 20:01Speaker 1: three four times at night. Guys, quite often they'll put
- 20:03Speaker 1: you on Flowmax, but sadly, as you get older, for.
- 20:06Speaker 2: An eighty five year old, it was making them dizzy
- 20:09Speaker 2: and causing faults. They took our reports and the data
- 20:14Speaker 2: to their doctor. He looked at it and he was like, wow,
- 20:19Speaker 2: I'm taking you off a flow Maax took him off
- 20:21Speaker 2: of Flowmax. Haven't had any false no.
- 20:23Speaker 3: False Sense's what's really interesting, and I think as the
- 20:27Speaker 3: critical part of this to not miss is we're flowing
- 20:30Speaker 3: a lot, a lot of data. Yes, it's a lot,
- 20:34Speaker 3: and we've developed a very powerful artificial intelligence engine which
- 20:40Speaker 3: takes that data and produces for the family and for
- 20:45Speaker 3: the physician and analysis of all the data and summarizes
- 20:51Speaker 3: it into a couple of paragraphs and describes medically what
- 20:56Speaker 3: might be going on here.
- 20:58Speaker 1: And it's a hints in suggestion, not necessarily conclusions, but
- 21:01Speaker 1: here are some things you might want to look at,
- 21:02Speaker 1: the possible recommendations. And then we have human in the loop, right,
- 21:07Speaker 1: have the doctor involved so he can look at those
- 21:10Speaker 1: that report. If he doesn't want to look at days
- 21:13Speaker 1: and days of data, he gets a very powerful AI
- 21:17Speaker 1: engine summarizing for him what might be going on here
- 21:23Speaker 1: and giving him suggestions. Yeah, and you think about that again,
- 21:26Speaker 1: going back to your point on it, it's twenty four
- 21:27Speaker 1: to seven is being collected twenty four hours day, seven
- 21:31Speaker 1: days a week. There's not a physical I don't care
- 21:33Speaker 1: how many times you go see your doctor. No one
- 21:35Speaker 1: has that amount of information about somebody.
- 21:37Speaker 3: No, and it's a senior focused AI region. It's not.
- 21:43Speaker 1: So it's not I would wear one necessarily, although I'm
- 21:46Speaker 1: getting up in years. But it isn't for me, it's
- 21:48Speaker 1: for folks.
- 21:48Speaker 3: I would recommend it for anybody because if to me,
- 21:53Speaker 3: no matter how old or young you are, he could
- 21:55Speaker 3: have a problem and not know it true until something happened, right,
- 22:00Speaker 3: and it makes you aware of it. And so what
- 22:02Speaker 3: this does is it streams all this data and then
- 22:07Speaker 3: analyzes it for you. AI is an amazing tool. It
- 22:12Speaker 3: can be properly extremely.
- 22:15Speaker 1: Powerful doctor and Dave had her this morning for Tech Friday.
- 22:19Speaker 1: It isn't always great thing, but it can be. And
- 22:22Speaker 1: you know, I've always viewed AI just from a ten
- 22:24Speaker 1: thousand foot perspective, since I'm not cast savvy on things
- 22:28Speaker 1: medical necessarily or AI, but it is it seems to
- 22:33Speaker 1: be a perfect tool for medicine because what doctor in
- 22:38Speaker 1: the world is the ultimate perfect diagnostician, What doctor in
- 22:42Speaker 1: the world has all of this information and what doctor
- 22:45Speaker 1: in the world could just literally take all the information
- 22:47Speaker 1: to the extents right in front of him and crunch
- 22:49Speaker 1: it down and put it into one neatly digestible piece
- 22:52Speaker 1: of boiled down information. AI does all.
- 22:54Speaker 2: That, and the issue is too Brian is here in Cincinnati.
- 22:57Speaker 2: We have multiple wonderful healthcare systems, but especially seniors. They'll
- 23:01Speaker 2: have a cardiologist, they'll have a pomonologist, they'll have a
- 23:04Speaker 2: kidney doctor. Sometimes they're not all on my chart together,
- 23:08Speaker 2: so they're actually prescribing different medications and no one's actually
- 23:14Speaker 2: looking the polypharmacies. It's huge, a huge issue in seniors, these.
- 23:18Speaker 1: Medicines in or are I know, you know, And that
- 23:20Speaker 1: was the other thing I was thinking about. Pharmacists were
- 23:23Speaker 1: the ones that usually were used to be charged with
- 23:25Speaker 1: knowing what drug interactions can be tolerated and where the
- 23:29Speaker 1: red flags pop up. I don't know that they're even
- 23:31Speaker 1: doing that anymore. That's just me speaking out of turn, perhaps,
- 23:34Speaker 1: But someone's got to know what the end individual who's
- 23:38Speaker 1: taking the drugs all about, all the drugs and all
- 23:40Speaker 1: the information. So when someone starts following, you may be
- 23:42Speaker 1: able to deduce that, oh gee, it's that addition of
- 23:44Speaker 1: flows back.
- 23:44Speaker 3: It goes back to advocacy. Okay, the pharmacist is not
- 23:48Speaker 3: your advocate. Your son or your daughter is right, or
- 23:53Speaker 3: your loved one somebody who really cares about you. And
- 23:57Speaker 3: the way this system works is we communicate with this
- 24:00Speaker 3: SAB not just with the patient, but the son, the daughter,
- 24:05Speaker 3: two daughters and two sons can all.
- 24:10Speaker 1: Right now, mom, Hey, your vital signs are looking really good.
- 24:14Speaker 3: To say you can advocate when you have information, yes
- 24:17Speaker 3: you can, but you can't when you don't.
- 24:19Speaker 2: And let me say one last thing, and I hate
- 24:21Speaker 2: to say this, but I'm going to say it. We
- 24:24Speaker 2: can't continue to advance this technology without funding.
- 24:26Speaker 1: That's true.
- 24:27Speaker 2: And I'm going to say something here that might be
- 24:29Speaker 2: a little off base, but I'm going to say it anyway.
- 24:31Speaker 2: All of our funding has come from individuals. We have
- 24:35Speaker 2: not had any company step up, really none, No companies
- 24:40Speaker 2: have stepped up. They're all donations from individuals. We would
- 24:43Speaker 2: love a Cincinnati based company to care and really help
- 24:48Speaker 2: us donate. They're small little donations that come in and
- 24:51Speaker 2: they're fine. But I don't understand why companies are not
- 24:55Speaker 2: supporting our senior.
- 24:56Speaker 1: Yeah, this is tax deductible five oh one three C
- 24:58Speaker 1: type of organization we're talking out here, So it is
- 25:01Speaker 1: a and what a societal benefit, Oh my word. If
- 25:05Speaker 1: you can get ahead of these medical problems and you
- 25:07Speaker 1: don't end up with a UTI or a fall or
- 25:09Speaker 1: a hip break or anything that saves everybody a heapload
- 25:12Speaker 1: of money. All Right, we'll bring them back because there's
- 25:15Speaker 1: I just kind of want to get not only just
- 25:16Speaker 1: to boil down a summary of the technology you have
- 25:19Speaker 1: it hard for seniors, but also we'll give out the
- 25:21Speaker 1: information on how people can help out because they are
- 25:24Speaker 1: really doing God's work here Hard for seniors. Don't go wait,
- 25:28Speaker 1: it's eight thirty eight right now. If you have KRCIT talk.
- 25:30Speaker 4: Station fifty five, KARC the talk station, Hey forty one
- 25:36Speaker 4: fifty about KRCD talk station Patty and Rodger from hard
- 25:38Speaker 4: number four Seniors dot org and pivoting over over the
- 25:42Speaker 4: breakdown even more wonderful information.
- 25:44Speaker 1: Okay, who out there is got a senior loved one?
- 25:47Speaker 1: And I'm thinking of Mom mom when you can't reach
- 25:52Speaker 1: them on the phone. Mom's got a cell phone, Mom's
- 25:54Speaker 1: got a landline. If I call both of those and
- 25:56Speaker 1: she doesn't answer either of them. She's eighty six, she
- 25:58Speaker 1: does live alone, she can still and she gets around.
- 26:01Speaker 1: That freaks me out. Where is she?
- 26:05Speaker 3: Well?
- 26:06Speaker 1: Could be a phone problems. She's had some of those lately.
- 26:07Speaker 1: But you have an answer and a solution to that problem.
- 26:09Speaker 1: Going back to the app you can get from Hard
- 26:11Speaker 1: for Seniors and the watch problem solved, problem solved. Where's
- 26:15Speaker 1: your mom right now?
- 26:17Speaker 2: My mom actually is a I know exactly where she
- 26:19Speaker 2: and Delia, and I also know her heart is beating
- 26:22Speaker 2: and her pull sox is good and she has HRV.
- 26:25Speaker 1: But there's peace of mind.
- 26:26Speaker 2: It's peace of mind. It actually happened to me personally
- 26:28Speaker 2: last night. My cousin called panicking and anyway, long story short,
- 26:32Speaker 2: she was sleeping, but we had the watch on her,
- 26:34Speaker 2: so we knew vitally she was doing well. And however,
- 26:40Speaker 2: this one, we've had a lot of members call us
- 26:44Speaker 2: begging because they're seeing early signs of dementia and people
- 26:48Speaker 2: are starting to leave their home. And these are people
- 26:50Speaker 2: that are living at home. Their spouses are wanting to
- 26:53Speaker 2: keep them at home. But a scary thing is is
- 26:55Speaker 2: you go to yoga class, so you go to the
- 26:57Speaker 2: grocery and you come back and all of a sudden,
- 26:59Speaker 2: someone has left the premise. So we actually are testing
- 27:03Speaker 2: right now. It's it will be released here in the
- 27:05Speaker 2: next several weeks. Our GPS segment to the watch and
- 27:09Speaker 2: it's got two features geo fencing, so we can set
- 27:12Speaker 2: a perimeter of two hundred feet or whatever the distances
- 27:15Speaker 2: that you want. If somebody leaves the house, it will
- 27:17Speaker 2: alert you alert response technology.
- 27:19Speaker 1: That's better than the ankle bracelets we have in the
- 27:21Speaker 1: state of Ohio for felons who have been put on
- 27:23Speaker 1: probation in their own homes and aren't allowed to leave
- 27:25Speaker 1: and then cut them off and wander around for months
- 27:27Speaker 1: only to go and kill somebody in their own apartment.
- 27:30Speaker 1: And then also yours actually were or will work.
- 27:35Speaker 2: It does and then you can actually find them. So
- 27:38Speaker 2: that's the second piece of it is you can actually
- 27:40Speaker 2: locate exactly where they are.
- 27:41Speaker 3: There's a map where and you can go get them.
- 27:46Speaker 1: What amazing peace of mind that bring about so over
- 27:51Speaker 1: at the website again Heart number four Seniors Thought or
- 27:53Speaker 1: right the upright hand corner, you can do a donate button.
- 27:56Speaker 1: If there's a business out there and you're looking for
- 27:57Speaker 1: a worthy worthwhile charity. I can't think of something better.
- 28:01Speaker 1: This is money saving, life saving, peace of mind providing.
- 28:06Speaker 1: It's good for providers, it's good for your loved one,
- 28:08Speaker 1: it's good for you. There is no downside. And I'll
- 28:10Speaker 1: tell you what. Next time I get my chemo treatment,
- 28:12Speaker 1: I'm taking over your bandages. The skin tear bandages seniors
- 28:17Speaker 1: deal with this all. This is one of the first
- 28:18Speaker 1: things that you and I ever talked about, Patty for
- 28:20Speaker 1: Heart for Seniors. Senior's skin is frail and it rips easily,
- 28:24Speaker 1: like a simple band aid will tear the skin, and
- 28:27Speaker 1: of course that's an opportunity for infection. Of course it's
- 28:29Speaker 1: a pain in the butt if that's where the bandage was. Anyway,
- 28:32Speaker 1: But every time I go and I get the line
- 28:33Speaker 1: put in my arm and then they tape it down,
- 28:35Speaker 1: and the tape that they use literally rips all of
- 28:38Speaker 1: the hair off of my arm. And they even warn
- 28:41Speaker 1: me about it ahead of time. Oh you're gonna get a
- 28:42Speaker 1: you're gonna get hair, gonna hurt. Even it's like every
- 28:46Speaker 1: time I'm over there, like why didn't I bring the
- 28:47Speaker 1: nose stick bandages? The bandage is that stick but easily
- 28:50Speaker 1: come off right there. Skin Tear Skill Silicon bandages, all
- 28:54Speaker 1: shapes and sizes for you at heartfor Seniors dot org.
- 28:58Speaker 1: And you can even get free sample.
- 29:00Speaker 2: Of those free samples, free samples, so free everything today
- 29:04Speaker 2: again donations then please, we we just to make it
- 29:09Speaker 2: very clear we are not paying our board. We have
- 29:12Speaker 2: everybody that works for us as volunteer. Nobody is getting
- 29:14Speaker 2: a salary. Every single dollar that's being brought in is
- 29:18Speaker 2: being put back to the technology, to the watches, to
- 29:21Speaker 2: the phones, to the skin tear bandages. Like we live
- 29:24Speaker 2: and die on donations.
- 29:26Speaker 1: That is great to know. He's reminding me of Matthew
- 29:29Speaker 1: twenty five. You give a buck to Matthew twenty five,
- 29:31Speaker 1: a buck goes to the charity. You give a buck
- 29:33Speaker 1: to United Way, maybe fifty cents because they got huge overhead,
- 29:37Speaker 1: giant salaries. Oh my god, four to one cave contributions,
- 29:40Speaker 1: they got it all. So yeah, make this is a
- 29:42Speaker 1: great bang for the buck. So again an appeal to
- 29:44Speaker 1: businesses out there who can't afford to make a more
- 29:46Speaker 1: sizable contribution. Help hard. Four seniors out at dot org
- 29:49Speaker 1: out all right. In conclusion, Patty and Roger, you have
- 29:53Speaker 1: the anti skin tear bandage technology. Yes, you have got
- 29:57Speaker 1: the little do not insert urinary catheter without family consent
- 30:01Speaker 1: placards which right there and just you know where you
- 30:03Speaker 1: can go, folks are for seniors dot org and there's
- 30:06Speaker 1: the shop link. That's where you can rent it all
- 30:09Speaker 1: the technology. Can my listeners get the watch and the
- 30:12Speaker 1: app from your website as well?
- 30:14Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, they just click on it. If they
- 30:17Speaker 2: already have an Apple eleven, there's certain criteria. But if not,
- 30:22Speaker 2: I will say we've partnered with Verizon and we can
- 30:26Speaker 2: actually offer, believe it or not, a full package plan
- 30:30Speaker 2: to where they get unlimited phone calls, unlimited texting, as
- 30:33Speaker 2: well as our entire ecosystem, and it's way cheaper than
- 30:35Speaker 2: anybody else has.
- 30:36Speaker 3: The Verizon stepped IBM helped with the AI.
- 30:40Speaker 2: Oh we are centel donations, but a cool, valuable, valuable.
- 30:47Speaker 3: Very very affordable five G watches, very very affordable iPhones.
- 30:54Speaker 2: Yes, seventeen Bran new.
- 30:56Speaker 3: The IBM mephistructure has been critical for our AI develop
- 31:00Speaker 3: and that AI piece is it's like the tip of
- 31:03Speaker 3: the spirit.
- 31:04Speaker 2: It's huge.
- 31:05Speaker 3: At the end of all this data stream, it gives
- 31:08Speaker 3: you an absolute analysis of what just happened in the
- 31:12Speaker 3: last twenty four hours or seven days, thirty d or
- 31:15Speaker 3: fourteens or thirty days, whatever you want to decide you
- 31:18Speaker 3: want to look at, and it gives you an intelligent
- 31:22Speaker 3: summary of what is happening with your loved one multiple
- 31:26Speaker 3: metrics or metric.
- 31:27Speaker 1: Multiple metrics, and again you know for the small price
- 31:31Speaker 1: that this actually costs, and the amount of peace of
- 31:33Speaker 1: mind and information, and the fact that it is literally
- 31:36Speaker 1: life saving in the sense of these the notices you
- 31:40Speaker 1: get like the I fallen and I can't get up
- 31:42Speaker 1: notice you automatically get if your loved one falls. I mean,
- 31:47Speaker 1: we want to prevent the fall, prevent the fall, and.
- 31:52Speaker 2: We want to make their life worthy. It's I mean,
- 31:55Speaker 2: they shouldn't be ignored at all.
- 31:58Speaker 1: I agree, everything should not be get weepy eyed thinking
- 32:01Speaker 1: of my father dealing with some of the same things
- 32:03Speaker 1: that you're talking about every time you come on the program.
- 32:06Speaker 1: Roger Patty, thank you for all the work that you're doing,
- 32:08Speaker 1: and that it's volunteer, unpaid. It's just a real beautiful thing.
- 32:12Speaker 1: You are doing God's work as I mentioned before, and
- 32:14Speaker 1: helping seniors out in the community. Folks, it's herd number
- 32:17Speaker 1: four seniors dot org. Check it all out, call them up.
- 32:20Speaker 1: They'll be happy to talk with you about the technology,
- 32:22Speaker 1: the acquiring the watch, and everything you might need. Five
- 32:26Speaker 1: one three four four four twenty thirteen five one three
- 32:29Speaker 1: four four four, twenty thirteen. Patty Rogers, God bless you
- 32:32Speaker 1: both for being there. No, thank you out there and
- 32:34Speaker 1: the work that you're doing, and obviously I'm so pleased
- 32:37Speaker 1: to be able to tell people about it. It's just great. Great.
- 32:40Speaker 2: You have been so consistent with us, and I will
- 32:42Speaker 2: tell you you're so respected by so many of these
- 32:45Speaker 2: seniors and your love. You are completely loved and the
- 32:48Speaker 2: family members. You're a resource, So thank you for the
- 32:51Speaker 2: support you've given us.
- 32:52Speaker 1: I'm more than pleased to do it, and I'm not
- 32:54Speaker 1: looking for any love or adulation or anything. I love
- 32:57Speaker 1: being able to bring this to people's attention. It's one
- 32:59Speaker 1: of the beauties of being able to come to work
- 33:00Speaker 1: here every day. Thank you again, and thanks for spending
- 33:03Speaker 1: time here this morning and educating all of us. It's
- 33:06Speaker 1: eight forty eight fifty five KRC Detalk Station. Come back,
- 33:09Speaker 1: a couple of minutes left and then we'll move on
- 33:11Speaker 1: with our weekend.
- 33:12Speaker 4: I'll be right back fifty five KRC Sex