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#135: Dissecting the Florida State Seminoles' Strategy and Bold Predictions for the Upcoming College Football Season · North Florida Sports Network Podcast

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: the North Florida sports.
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: The North Florida sports.
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back in to the North Florida sports network, Coming at you August 17th 2023.
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: We're going to talk FSU Florida State Seminoles back until Hasse from their trip over to Jacksonville where they were doing some practicing and some scrimmaging.
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: But they're back.
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: We got Jimmy Reno in studio, yeah yeah, what's up?
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: So how we ever, we ever get a consensus on why, why they're doing it on Jacksonville?
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: Well, kind of shake it up.
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what he does.
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: I think he's done it every year.
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: That's his like Thomasville thing.
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: Well, they will, they, yeah, Okay.
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: Well, they got through it, clean, so yeah.
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: Well, they're back at it.
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: They're practicing.
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: What have you been hearing over there in terms of practice?
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: What does it look like?
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: Who's showing out?
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: Destin Hill is going to play.
• 1:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, he's going to be on the field this year, so very I mean, you know, I just remember there are all the questions, since it's been two years since anybody's really heard anything, is what's he going to look like?
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: I guess he was just training running routes for two years man, because it yeah, but you know it's going to be a crowded, crowded receiver room.
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of a lot of weapons, there's a lot of weapons returning, there's a lot of weapons that have been added in the off season and there's only going to be one ball, and we talked about a little bit he's did last time.
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: What is Mike Norvell going to want to do with that ball?
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: A lot of it will depend on what the defense will, you know, set up with.
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: But I have to think you're going to want to establish the run and I think defenses are going to have to stop Benson first and foremost.
• 2:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know the offensive line the size of our offensive line, the size of Benson.
• 2:15
  Speaker 2: You know the power run is going to be there outside run.
• 2:18
  Speaker 2: You got Travis who's?
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: You know he's equally as dangerous, if not more dangerous, with his legs.
• 2:25
  Speaker 2: I think the run game is going to be something that most defenses key on first.
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: You know, as weird as it may sound to say, I think they're going to go into the games with the mindset of all right, if Travis is going to beat us, you know, let him prove that he can be that elite quarterback you know, with his arm.
• 2:48
  Speaker 2: Now, the amount of weapons he has at his disposal is very nice, man, I mean, it's a good question.
• 2:56
  Speaker 2: What do you do with the ball?
• 2:57
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, whoever's open, you get to him Right.
• 2:59
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't think.
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: I know that the you start wondering, like, what about guys with egos and one everybody?
• 3:07
  Speaker 2: But you know, I don't think that's a problem until the offense struggles.
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: You know, until you stop moving the ball.
• 3:13
  Speaker 2: So you know it's a good problem to have that is a good problem to have.
• 3:18
  Speaker 2: But, like I said, you know what do you do with the ball.
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: You give it to whoever's open Right.
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: Because if you're still moving the ball, no one's really going to get upset.
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: Because you're still moving the ball.
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're dominating, nobody's going to.
• 3:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know they may wish that they were getting a little more right, more to eat, but it's hey, you know this is.
• 3:35
  Speaker 2: This is the team goal.
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I suspect that the tight end spot, the more locked.
• 3:42
  Speaker 2: I think that'll be highly productive for us this season.
• 3:47
  Speaker 2: I think you know that there's no way that you're going to leave Wilson or Coleman on the outside, you know, one on one with a guy without safety help, without some kind of help.
• 3:58
  Speaker 2: So I look for, you know, the run game.
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: If they key on it, you're going to.
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: You're going to see a lot, of, a lot of slot a lot of tie, that tie, yeah, and then running backs out of the backfield as well.
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Wheel routes are fully.
• 4:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's, you know there's a lot of weapons and you got it.
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: It'll.
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: It'll key on whatever their strengths like, for instance, lsu, where, where, where do you see that game plan?
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: If you're LSU, you're just trying to stop Benson.
• 4:29
  Speaker 1: Shut down that run.
• 4:30
  Speaker 1: Put pressure on Jordan Travis.
• 4:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think LSU will will try to do whatever they can to stop the run without committing too much from the secondary.
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: I think that's their weak spot, is what it sounds like, and they're going to do what they can to keep some help back there and that, that backhand.
• 4:49
  Speaker 1: You saw it last year in Jordan Travis Brood, that he could hang in there and deliver.
• 4:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, they took that shot right in the face last year and oh yeah, oh yeah.
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: I think that's still going to be.
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: The plan from LSU is to get to him, get pressure on him.
• 5:05
  Speaker 1: You can't let him just run the ball right up there, you know.
• 5:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if, if Harold Perkins has just had you know, personal Jordan Travis duty all game just spying him.
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: But again it's going to come down to Florida State probably.
• 5:22
  Speaker 2: You know, can we?
• 5:23
  Speaker 2: Can we move the ball, dictate the run game?
• 5:27
  Speaker 2: It's going to be O line versus their D line, essentially.
• 5:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah.
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: Daniels versus Jordan Travis two guys there are getting a lot of Heisman preseason love.
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, daniels is I mean, you saw it last year Will he be able to be consistent because he's had the big games I mean, that game he had against Florida was legendary.
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: But will he be able to do it, game in and game out?
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: And that's what he's claiming he came back for was to show that he can be a more consistent passer.
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: Will FSU be able to get to him and wrap him up?
• 6:08
  Speaker 2: That's, that's pretty much here.
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: Your make or break for fsu defense is pressure, and then when you get there can you get him down.
• 6:16
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 6:18
  Speaker 2: Because if you can't, man, it's gonna, it's gonna be.
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: You know, you're gonna have to go score for score with him.
• 6:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah and it will.
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: That could be something that you might see this year in certain games.
• 6:30
  Speaker 1: But Defense, the kind of defensive game has changed.
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: You got to get those.
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to get the big turnover or the key stop at a certain time.
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big play offense, those, those old-school games of of our defense just shutting down Offenses, and you know that they're gonna be few and far between.
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: Just it's the way the game.
• 6:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, even the best defenses with the most, yeah, NFL talent, you can still like you.
• 6:56
  Speaker 1: Good Georgia last year.
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's in my final game they were.
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: They were cooked.
• 7:01
  Speaker 2: Kid.
• 7:02
  Speaker 2: Makes the field gold dream season over, right now.
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: That's.
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's, that's the way that, but you have to be on point, and so that's a great question.
• 7:12
  Speaker 1: Paul wall and Tyler, has he wanted to know?
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: You know, with all the talent on offense, that's a couple good questions.
• 7:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: But what he?
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: He wants to know in particular, if Norville had his choice, where would he want to do it?
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: And I think you're right run the ball, get the ball the tight end.
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, he throws and you let let the let your playmakers make big plays.
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let the outside open up off of that right.
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: As you saw, fsu was Leading the conference in big plays last year.
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he definitely.
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: No, no, definitely wants to throw it down the field to those receivers though.
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: Right, he's not, he's not gonna neglect it, but I think he would, you know, start eating up the middle of the field first.
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: Right, make it as easy on Jordan Travis as you can.
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed.
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: Well, that's man, still some time to go.
• 8:06
  Speaker 1: We're gonna look into that game a lot more, but we're gonna do some over unders.
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: I got Bet MGM up.
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: We're gonna go.
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: That's what we're looking in.
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: Case you want to get involved, it's the over under on the season.
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: Me and Jim are gonna pick against each other and see who gets the most right.
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: You can participate on Twitter at, or X, whatever it is now at the NFL SN.
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: You can email your over under picks to Austin at the NFL SN.
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: Comm.
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: Are you ready?
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: Let's do it All right.
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: Here's one I wanted to start out with in particular is Colorado.
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, I know that you're interested in this season because of prime, but this is gonna be a big year.
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a tough year for him.
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a tough year for him.
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: It's at three and a half Well.
• 8:57
  Speaker 2: I'm, I'm going under.
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: They look tiny man, they look tiny, I Know they, I know they.
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: They brought in some power five guys on on both sides of the ball in the you know the lines, but they still look small and they got a brutal schedule.
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're looking at that schedule, man.
• 9:16
  Speaker 2: I mean it's.
• 9:16
  Speaker 2: I think they can be Colorado State and then maybe, maybe, maybe, get somebody in the Pac-12 and they have two out of conference opponents in Nebraska and TCU, not to mention.
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: They have to play both schools from LA, ucla and USC, both schools from Oregon and Stan.
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, if they can.
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: Somehow split the Arizona.
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be tough to get the four wins.
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: I don't see it either.
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: I'm going under as well.
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: All right, let's do.
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: Let's do another team right here that we talked about already, and it's the Florida Gators, and you had them, so we kind of already know where you're going with it.
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: But let's officially make it down Over under for them is five and a half.
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: I know you had picked him to go five and seven.
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: Elaborate a little bit on that.
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I.
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: You know, for me it comes down to what they lost, what they replaced it with.
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: You know, the biggest thing is is Anthony Richardson.
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think.
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think they they upgraded that quarterback.
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: Now, if Graham Mertz can just be consistent and they just ride the run game, you know I'm talking like 70, 30, maybe even 80, 20 then you know all bets are off.
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: Man, I may look stupid, but I just don't see them Doing any better with.
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it was five and a half, so you took five.
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be either one of those two.
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna.
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: Florida is they impressed me in that in the game that they played against Florida State.
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: I know they didn't win, but they sure a lot of fight.
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: I Think that you it's the second year.
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: I think that he's a good coach.
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: I think they hired the right guy.
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: It's just gonna take a lot of time because it's just a lot of competition and yeah, and I think that I'm gonna go over.
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go over here.
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: All right, it's gonna be tough, though that schedule they have is tough.
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not.
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: It's not an easy road and they could have a year like a five and seven and still show signs of improvement.
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: You know you could see a gator team that goes five and seven, depending on how the season plays out, what players are producing.
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah and you know how competitive they are in some of the games.
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: They just.
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: Gainesville has not been a patient place for coaches with losing records.
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: Historically it just hasn't.
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: So you know, if they're they're looking at five and seven, They'll.
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: They'll probably be able to realize it a few weeks before the season's over.
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: I just got a wonder what?
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: What the mindset's gonna?
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: be there.
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: But, like you said, man, they and that's a good point, you brought up last year's game they, they did.
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: They showed a lot of fight.
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: I, it's just.
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: You know what did.
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: What did we?
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: bring in, kind of they get more depth on defense.
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: Well, they'll be able to, you know, hold teams down for longer, and Will the quarterback be able to deliver the ball?
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: consistency yeah, well, yeah.
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: So those are things to look out for you know, like he's yeah, there won't be any 55 yard touchdown runs from the QB, but there also may not be any, you know, swing passes in the dirt, yeah, or throws that are 15 rows up into the stands.
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: Well, let's go.
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: Let's keep it in the state.
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: We'll go to the other rivalry of FSU, let's go to Miami.
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: We kind of know what you're doing here, but the over under seven and a half you had a them at eight.
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go, I'll go over on that definitely I.
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Miami is you know there'll be a lot like Florida State was when, when the reveal first got here and the year-to-year transition, they may be a little better.
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: With kind of a addition by subtraction, some of the guys that Maybe shouldn't have been playing as much as they were the last few years have moved on.
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: They got.
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: They got some good young players.
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: Man, that kid's kid, that's safety is is.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: I picked him to go.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I picked him to go over, but I I don't know if I had to bet, I would probably go under.
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: All right, you know, but I'm gonna put over, since I did have the pick, though you know, and it's already on there and we picked this season, I'm gonna stick with that.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: Hey, but it this is a, it's gonna come down to that A&M game.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah you know, or in that if they can win that game you know, you know, then then they can pull off.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: Maybe get get one against you and see here two big swing games you and see an A&M Yep, we'll see you can lose both right.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: Right now you would say they're gonna lose both.
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: I I, I, but they can win we got them, but we got them both, winning the North Carolina game.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they can do that yeah all right, let's go to Florida State.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: It's nine and a half.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go under.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: I knew you were gonna do that, just just the just gotta know that Jamie Reno is a Florida State pessimist.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I picked him to lose every game in 2013.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: That's right, there's really no week, you know so wasn't just picking it, man.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: I had like extensive breakdowns on why we were gonna lose yeah well, you can see where Vegas has it.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: Nine and a half is when I thought it would be.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: It's gonna come down right now they have.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: Would they be it with a?
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: If they win every game they're gonna be favored in, they'll go 10 and 2 Probably yeah yeah, and For me will they be able to do that?
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: A lot of people think they can do better than that.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: I Think that would be fine as long as you get to Charlotte yeah, that's, I'm gonna say, over.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: I Think they get to 10 wins.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah I, I can't pick them In the regular season.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: I think they get to 10.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah for me, like I don't, I don't think they're gonna.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: They're gonna beat LSU.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: I think LSU gets us and I don't.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know how anybody can pick us to win at Clemson when we haven't done it.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: Right you know in so long.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Those games are the games that you could lose both those games.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and went out, and I still think that's a great year.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah depending on how you Fair in both those games and who you play in in that ACC championship.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: If you get another shot at Clemson, yeah you know that maybe a race is one of the losses, depending on who's who knows, but you had, like you were saying, you haven't beat Clemson, haven't beat them, nope, and you haven't been to Charlotte in a long time and that's got to be Number one goal right and until you know, until it happens it's.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: it's hard for me to pick it happening, man, I just just being a pessimist.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean Five and seven two years ago and big improvement last year to ten and three.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: A lot of people coming back.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the rock like, but the schedule is tough yeah there's reason why people are, you know, around the country have picked Florida State to have such a successful year.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: You know, that the improvement in the team that they had last year and then the amount of talent that they've Right stacked on the roster man, I mean it's, it's, it should be a really powerful team.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be an over.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a good year.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: We're gonna do wins and losses later and we got big time, nolan studio, yeah, but Big time.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: No man, he's not gonna like my, my seven and five prediction.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: He, I'm pretty sure he knew.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he knows what to expect there.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: All right, so let's keep this train rolling.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Georgia, the number one team.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Georgia.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: It's 11 and a half man, I'm coming over.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they expect them to go undefeated, yeah.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the schedule is.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't even really get challenging.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: I think when till they played Tennessee later in the season, I Don't, I don't see anybody beating them until you know, maybe the SEC championship game.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, so yeah, there's nobody.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: They got at Tennessee this year, is that, would you say?
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: That would that's Regular season, yeah?
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: that's, that's gonna be the challenge, but I, you know I Tennessee's gotta gotta stop somebody first.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: It's true, and they lost their quarterback and their receiver from last year's team.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I do Josh Hypole.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: He, you know as much as I don't like him because of you know, back in his playing days.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: He, he is, you know, he's an offensive coach man.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: He really he can put out powerful offense, but they just, you know, it didn't matter against Georgia last year and I don't think it's gonna matter again this season.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: So over there, I agree with you, man.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: If they lose it's gonna be once, and I think they're gonna go over on 11 and a half.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: So they got him going undefeated.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: So over on that, let's stick.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Stay right there at the top of the polls.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Let's do Michigan.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Harbaugh big harbs, the khakis milk and steak.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Milk and steak.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Ten and a half is the number, was he?
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: got easy doing that.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: That four game suspension.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah so he's gonna go out and let's spend four weeks.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: You know research and trees in Michigan and stuff like that.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Um, yeah, I'll go over.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I think they're.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: You know, it's the Ohio State Michigan in that conference again.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe Penn State can can.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Penn State just always seems like they disappoint in those two games.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Well, let's stay right there.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Then Ohio State has the same number ten and a half.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I'm going under.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I State has some problems on the offensive line and you know I there's no more CJ Stroud.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I know you still got some, some really good receivers, but I mean a lot of that was the quarterback, so I don't know.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I got him winning nine games this year.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Hmm, this is where, where you did Michigan, you did over.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know how to stay down there.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I'll do both of those.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Right now I'm gonna go opposite of you.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't, I was.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: They lost a TCU man.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on man.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I was not.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: You had to win that game and they didn't.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I think there's a little.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Hopefully that doesn't carry over, but I think Ohio State gets them this year.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: It's gonna come down to that.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: So yeah, give me Ohio State with the over, give me Michigan with the under.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I'll put a little cherry on top of that.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I got Ohio State going nine and three.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: The loss to Michigan at the end of the season is the last game Ryan Day coaches as Ohio State's head coach.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Wow, that, that's how it's.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: it's ridiculous joining the Boston College coach and getting fired, yeah addiction.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: It's ridiculous that that it that's you know, even out there.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: But I mean you know you got to be Michigan man.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: That would be three in a row, wouldn't it?
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to beat them and after you know they're going in there with two losses already, which I think that will, I don't think they're gonna beat Notre Dame and I think Penn State gets them.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: I'd I, you know.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I think that'll be it for him.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: All right, all right.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: So then Ohio State, you got under and I have over.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Notre Dame, All right?
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: No, the game is eight and a half.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Eight and a half, I think I got them winning nine games to yeah.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I got them over over I think they're gonna be good.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know and they have the transfer from Wake Forest.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Sam.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Hartman, the ACC's career leading passer.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: He's going from one veteran offensive line to another.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame has a great offensive line.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I like the head coach, I think with the Huber Heights Wayne High School.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Marcus Freeman.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: What's up?
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I Like this team this year.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I think this is a good.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I think they're gonna win Possibly maybe 10 games.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I got him at nine, but yeah, I got him over I got over.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I got over.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I join you there, notre Dame, with the over.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: I tell you, the game that I really want, I'm interested is, is Notre Dame and Clemson this year, just in Death Valley.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I really want to see that.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: You know, riley against Marcus Freeman, mm-hmm.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Al Golden.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Notre Dame put it to him last year.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know I don't think they'll be USC.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: You know I think they get Ohio State.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I got him losing to Clemson.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: I Got him.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I've got him in another loss somewhere there and I know it's nine and three, I'm not.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Well, let's keep it rolling here.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Let's go over to Texas.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: A lot of people are picking them to win the big 12, nine and a half the number nine and a half going under man.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Texas has just done nothing but Failed to deliver on those, those preseason.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: You know that that hype, that every year it's, and I guess Queen Ewers is a good quarterback.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I Don't know, I don't I got under man.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I just I don't ever really have a lot of faith in Texas.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I haven't since they've had Benz Young at quarterback.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go over.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I think that.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, I think these these gonna get it done.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Sark's gonna get it done.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I Think he has improved the talent.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I think they had a good team last year.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: They should have beat Alabama last year.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they should.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go over.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I think they win the big 12.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: You got him win the B12, got him winning the big 12.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: All right, the last one on the way out.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: That's another thing to keep in mind, though they're on their way out, yeah that's true.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Them and Oklahoma headed to the SEC next year.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's go right there.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma this number surprised me.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Nine and a half.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Oh Well, ah, man, if, if Dylan Gabriel is capable of an entire season of just, you know, consistent football, not getting hurt, not having his games where he just throws you know three picks and it, then yeah, but that hasn't really, I'll go over, man, I'll go over, yeah, I mean I don't, the defense is gonna be good, the defense is gonna be good.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I'll just assume that Dylan Gabriel can, can have a full season.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, we saw, we saw what they were Capable of last season.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Right, they looked a lot better in that bowl game.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: The offense did, and you're saying the defense will be much improved.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I think the defense is gonna be a lot better.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I'm a lot smarter.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Less breakdowns and you know that running game and both of those young running backs are legit it.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I got him over.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I don't wow.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you got them winning, the big 12 Playing for it, okay.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: All right, this one for me is tough, you know, it's just, that's a big number, yeah, and I'm gonna go under.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I think they win nine games which would still be.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: It'll still be a good improvement for Burt vegetables.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I mean he yeah.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: All right, so we got some differences here.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Let's see, let's do a couple more where we get on out of here and we'll do the rest later.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Let's let's go out West.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Wait, no, let's stay right here.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Let's do, let's do Clemson nine and a half.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Man, I'll go over I.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: I yeah, I'll go over.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I'll go over I, I don't.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I think that you know they don't have the receiving talent that they have in in years past, but they still got one tree hill in the backfield.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I Think Lincoln, or Lincoln, I think Garrett Riley will be able to, you know, get his offense up and rolling as the season progresses.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: I Think ten and two is probably I Mean.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: I think it's a safe bet for them.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: They played Notre Dame, florida State, south Carolina, would you say those are three hardest games.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: They play Miami.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: This year they do play Miami.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, is it at home?
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: No, but it doesn't matter, they're gonna win that game.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those are.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: There's three toughest game, I mean.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: I'll throw one, I'll throw a little little possible monkey wrench out there, which is game number one, duke.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: You know I get it.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: It's Duke, but it's also Mike Elko.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: So he's you know it's not gonna be some vanilla defense, some pushover defense, and you're talking about Brando starting QB brand new offense.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: You know, we'll see.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I think Jackson ship, he chiply chiply.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got him going over.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I got him going over.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I do too, but I mean they went.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: It just seems like I'm gonna pick them to win team if they always win team game.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that week one the lunch.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I mean yeah, blue devils.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if they do that, they're definitely not gonna get that number.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Oh no, the the wheels will be in danger of already falling off if that happens.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: That's yeah I.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: We had to go up.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: You got to get on out of here.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: But before we go, we'll do one more.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: All right, we'll do LSU.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: That's number one game on the schedule for Florida State.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: We're in this show with the over under of LSU at nine and a half.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm going over.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I have LSU in the college football playoffs Wow.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: All right, you think they, so you got them beating FSU.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I got him beating FSU.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they're going to run the table in the regular season, but I have him beating Georgia and the SEC championship Wow yeah.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Wow, georgia would probably still get there.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: If it'll be their only loss.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Right, they're going to be your two SEC teams in the in the college football playoffs.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Don't think you're getting away with with only one this year.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nine and a half for LSU.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Man, I'm going to go under All right.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: You know it's going to be tough.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I think everybody's thinking savings are down here.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: That was a hell of a game last year and it could easily gone the other way.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I think savings going to have something to prove that's going to.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I think the Alabama gets LSU this year.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: And then you know, hey, they got a tough schedule and the SEC is tough.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: You got Jimbo out there at the end of the year.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: You know you got Florida State out of conference to start the year.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know no more Bryce Young for Nick Saban, though.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, that's true.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: The in the quarterback.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: That's the question.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: It's not pretty Well, we'll do Alabama's.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get into that next time and it's.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: That's the, that's the story out of there.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Well, just for today, we did Colorado and Jimmy both have under Florida.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Jimmy has them under five and a half, I have them over Miami.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: We both have over seven and a half FSU Jimmy under, of course.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I have them over Michigan.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Jimmy has them over, I have them under Texas.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Jimmy has them under, I have them over Oklahoma.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: He has them over, I have them under Clemson.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: We both have them over LSU he has them over, I have them under, and we'll do it again and we'll talk to you next time right here on the North Florida Sports Network.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: We had to go.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: All right, we're here.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: We got a shuttle.