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Episode 189 | Uhuru · Corie Sheppard Podcast

0:11
Speaker 1: Woo, woo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo Whoo.
0:56
Speaker 1: It will be much more exciting For you and me To be enjoying the time waiting this beautiful day.
1:06
Speaker 1: We wasted time in the least gone by, so please don't mind having fun with I.
1:20
Speaker 2: Let's fill this day with more excitement.
1:22
Speaker 2: Let's fill this day with more excitement.
1:30
Speaker 2: Well, it's lovely, today we could go fishing, but something's telling me we should go and party.
1:38
Speaker 2: Only a couple blocks away, I hear music, my friend.
1:43
Speaker 2: The music made me go party, party.
1:45
Speaker 2: Everything is alright.
1:47
Speaker 2: This party going the whole night, everybody's having fun.
1:55
Speaker 2: This party going on and on and on.
1:59
Speaker 2: Oh, it's lovely, today we could go fishing, but something is telling me we should go and party.
2:05
Speaker 2: Only a couple blocks away, I hear music, my friend, my music, and we could party, party, party.
2:31
Speaker 3: Party Woo.
2:37
Speaker 3: Well, you know for sure I can't remember the episode number right Woo Woo Woo.
2:56
Speaker 3: All right, welcome to episode 189 of the cory shepherd podcast.
2:59
Speaker 3: It take a while, but I find it welcome back.
3:00
Speaker 3: All the feeling has been a long, long, long, long time.
3:01
Speaker 3: I can't remember how to do this and I want to tell you that, in the face of all kinds of different technical difficulties, I'm here, so I'm recording this.
3:08
Speaker 3: Not sure if, when I'm done recording, if we're going to have an episode.
3:11
Speaker 3: So if you're hearing this, we're good.
3:13
Speaker 3: No, I had a particular way I was going to start this episode and I had a particular way I was going to start the episode.
3:20
Speaker 3: I default to.
3:26
Speaker 3: Superblow are trying to be a good person and a good boy.
3:27
Speaker 3: All I want to hear how I really plan to start the episode.
3:27
Speaker 3: I had a whole different plan in mind.
3:29
Speaker 3: Here was the real plan.
3:39
Speaker 1: That was the real plan.
3:41
Speaker 1: You are high class.
3:42
Speaker 1: Me nuh have time for you.
3:43
Speaker 1: Hold on.
3:44
Speaker 1: Me nuh have time for you, grassy.
3:46
Speaker 1: Me nuh have time for you.
3:48
Speaker 1: Me nuh have time for no jail time.
3:51
Speaker 4: That's a waste time Mine for my money and my money for my mind.
3:55
Speaker 1: The shot of them are free, the dollar sign, the shot of them are free, the dollar sign.
4:00
Speaker 1: Any way, you see me At any given time, mine for my money and my money for my mind.
4:04
Speaker 1: The shot of them a free, the dollar sign.
4:07
Speaker 1: The shot of them a free.
4:09
Speaker 1: The dollar sign.
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Speaker 1: Love me money, me a meds, I don't have none.
4:12
Speaker 1: Fi show me Thirty million fi a house up a stony.
4:16
Speaker 1: So me go a hustle round a fada round me Me.
4:18
Speaker 1: Nah make no boy write me like phony All when me broke.
4:21
Speaker 1: Rich gal can't clone me.
4:22
Speaker 1: You mad me left that wealthy and lonely Native woman me can't talk.
4:27
Speaker 3: Say she own me, me pan as a dance Like live up, we grow me.
4:30
Speaker 3: That was the plan.
4:33
Speaker 3: That was the plan.
4:34
Speaker 3: That was the plan.
4:34
Speaker 3: That was the original start.
4:36
Speaker 3: I was here happy to celebrate the release of Adija Palmer.
4:40
Speaker 3: The world boss, empire boss.
4:42
Speaker 3: The world boss, empire boss.
4:43
Speaker 3: Great vibes can't tell, but I'm feeling a little bad.
4:46
Speaker 3: I ain't lying, I didn't want to tell Oli.
4:48
Speaker 3: I'm feeling a little bad.
4:49
Speaker 3: I expected to be elated and overjoyed.
4:52
Speaker 3: I done tell everybody once Cartel performing wherever the first show is, I now see rumors coming out saying the first show is in Africa.
4:58
Speaker 3: I don't care which part of Africa if it is where Thief the Boat and the Kill Captain Phillips, captain Phillips live, I don't care if it's there going.
5:05
Speaker 3: That's what I'd planned to say, right, but I ain't gonna lie to tell you, since Cartel come out, I'm feeling a little bad.
5:13
Speaker 3: Anyway, let me do a little personal update first now.
5:15
Speaker 3: Plenty happening, I tell all.
5:17
Speaker 3: The last time that was a long time ago.
5:19
Speaker 3: I don't know how long.
5:20
Speaker 3: This might be the most consecutive weeks I ever misrecorded.
5:23
Speaker 3: Maybe three weeks is the last episode.
5:31
Speaker 3: Welcome to episode 189.
5:32
Speaker 3: I say that I have been moving, I've moved, I've settled.
5:33
Speaker 3: Digicel is finally kind to me again.
5:34
Speaker 3: Thank you digicel.
5:35
Speaker 3: You know I mean thank you digicel.
5:36
Speaker 3: Anybody listening from digicel please stop the billing in my old place.
5:39
Speaker 3: I cannot afford to carry two bills in these here rough times.
5:42
Speaker 3: But I moved and we settled and we pack and we unpack.
5:45
Speaker 3: I want to tell you moving is very, very difficult Moving.
5:48
Speaker 3: It's at a time you used to just call some partners and everybody come and they chip in and get some beers and we cook some food and everybody move.
5:56
Speaker 3: That time passed because all my partners, all the different kind of itis that I have Sacroiliitis, arthritis, bursitis, gout, everything it had to have men have.
6:07
Speaker 3: So you can't really call your partners to help you move again.
6:09
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you moving is expensive and just the packing up.
6:13
Speaker 3: You just wonder how you get so much stuff.
6:17
Speaker 3: Like, how does somebody acquire so much stuff over the years?
6:20
Speaker 3: But as they say, when a man find a wife he find a good thing right.
6:24
Speaker 3: So we stuff over the years.
6:32
Speaker 3: But as they say, when a man find a wife, you find a good thing right.
6:34
Speaker 3: So we finally reach and we unpack and I have things set up.
6:36
Speaker 3: I want to tell you all kind of issues I face with this setup here, right, all sorts of issues.
6:38
Speaker 3: But we back on track and if this episode come out, we should have episodes flowing good from now on, holy good.
6:42
Speaker 3: I was only vacation and all I was on vacation too.
6:45
Speaker 3: When you see I'm missing episodes, right, and I ain't getting too much of people batting my up about this, that and the third.
6:51
Speaker 3: I tell all of this since Easter, you know, I say during vacation time nobody will be taking me on and I'll always be going on my own vacation.
6:57
Speaker 3: So I'm very happy that I went on mine, because I make big promises to a certain man and the man passed for his school of choice, you know.
7:03
Speaker 3: I mean, the man did his work.
7:04
Speaker 3: Salute again to him.
7:05
Speaker 3: So we had a promise on the table, me and the mother promised him that if you do well in your thing we'll carry you to disney.
7:13
Speaker 3: A matter of fact, it was.
7:13
Speaker 3: It was a surprise.
7:14
Speaker 3: I want to tell you the most underwhelming surprise we've seen in a long time, because we tell this little boy going disney, he looks so he's like, okay, sounds good, all right, yeah, I'll go, I'll go, that's okay.
7:25
Speaker 3: What kind of life this man living.
7:28
Speaker 3: I would have been overjoyed.
7:29
Speaker 3: But apparently he didn't know, he, when we told him about it, didn't really know what disney world was and the whole thing about it.
7:37
Speaker 3: But you know these youtube babies, they don't take long to catch on.
7:39
Speaker 3: So in no time at all he was googling parks and all that and basically looking for where's the best meal in every single park we go to and what kind of food to try.
7:47
Speaker 3: These youtubers, yankee youtubers, is some meltable.
7:50
Speaker 3: Salute to my guy, cassius.
7:51
Speaker 3: Right, cassius, give my idea.
7:53
Speaker 3: Cassius, the idea come too late, although I would not do it in the first place.
7:56
Speaker 3: Cassius was telling me if we can't get a podcast, we could begin a vlog from in um, from in disney.
8:02
Speaker 3: You know, I ain't reached that level yet.
8:05
Speaker 3: Beyond the technical difficulty because the things I call technical difficulties a lot of times it'll be pretty simple things, huh.
8:10
Speaker 3: But I'm not sure that I know how to do these settings on a camera, to walk wrong and record nothing.
8:15
Speaker 3: But I'll say that the true, all the different people who've done that before and rate theme park and compare theme parks, we make a plan right.
8:24
Speaker 3: I want to tell you what was the plan.
8:25
Speaker 3: We decide we reach in the monday we go in universal studios.
8:30
Speaker 3: The tuesday we go in magic kingdom.
8:33
Speaker 3: The wednesday.
8:33
Speaker 3: We taking a break the thursday and do some shopping and some running around.
8:37
Speaker 3: And the friday we go into disney's, volcano b.
8:40
Speaker 3: For all of y'all who did this before right, for all of y'all who went to disney, and so how they find their plans on it, how they find their plans on it, keep in mind that Nana went to do right.
8:50
Speaker 3: Salute to my mom, salute Linz, number one fan of the podcast and the number one reason the podcast ain't recorded in the last two weeks too.
8:58
Speaker 3: She on the triple, I'm in too, but we went.
9:01
Speaker 3: We went to all these parks and we had a great time.
9:06
Speaker 3: Universal studios the first day was great.
9:08
Speaker 3: I mean the, the, the, the way these parks is transforming back to childhood is is something else to see.
9:13
Speaker 3: But there's several things that we had to do differently.
9:15
Speaker 3: If we had to do that again.
9:16
Speaker 3: Yes, because I, when I came back, I said I'll never go back.
9:19
Speaker 3: Because I'll tell you this if you're going or you've never been, and you plan to go to dis or Carrier Train, disney and things do not go in July, don't go.
9:27
Speaker 3: The lowest temperature we saw over there while we were in the theme parks was 93, right, keep in mind that my back and my knees and things feel like 93,.
9:38
Speaker 3: Right, let me see where it's 93 F to C, just so you could get an idea of it.
9:45
Speaker 3: It's about 33, like all that, 34 degrees of heat, and a different kind of heat to Trinidad too, because the place there's no breeze blowing.
9:52
Speaker 3: When you go in the shade it's hotter than in the cold.
9:54
Speaker 3: When you're in the open sun, but it's hot.
9:57
Speaker 3: It's a long walk.
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Speaker 3: When you think you're inside the theme park, you're in some kind of food court area outside the theme park.
10:07
Speaker 3: It is.
10:07
Speaker 3: It is.
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Speaker 3: It's a lot.
10:08
Speaker 3: It's a lot.
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Speaker 3: It's tiring, but I would say universal was worth everything.
10:10
Speaker 3: I think I went there some years before.
10:11
Speaker 3: Last time I went there, or the only time I went there might have been 2007, 8, 9, that kind of time in and uh, it didn't disappoint.
10:19
Speaker 3: It didn't disappoint.
10:20
Speaker 3: We did everything that the youtubers say.
10:22
Speaker 3: They say reach early, didn't like go to this ride first.
10:24
Speaker 3: We tried to follow that pattern when we got there on the first daily park and I was a little worried for zachary because there's a ride called the incredible hulk, which is the only roller coaster I really ever went on.
10:35
Speaker 3: Uh, because I might know if my heart good for them, kind of thrill ride on them.
10:39
Speaker 3: But we went on it and zachary holy one, zach, zachary Holyone, I was a little worried.
10:44
Speaker 3: I tell myself, boy, this man might try to dive off in this thing.
10:47
Speaker 3: But that was something else.
10:48
Speaker 3: I ain't promising nobody that doing too much more of that.
10:52
Speaker 3: If you do decide to go to Universal Studios, skip everything else.
10:55
Speaker 3: And if you're, whether you're Lord, what is this?
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Speaker 3: Lord of the Rings, harry Potter, whether you're a Harry Potter fan or not, find your way down to that Hogwarts or wherever.
11:04
Speaker 3: That is Because I never watch a Harry Potter movie.
11:06
Speaker 3: I'm bad with movies, any movie that has too much fantasy and magic and man sat to fly.
11:11
Speaker 3: I can't deal with too much of that.
11:13
Speaker 3: I used to know I used to fall asleep fast.
11:14
Speaker 3: I can't deal with it.
11:15
Speaker 3: But that is so immersive, so well designed.
11:19
Speaker 3: They really take the time and design things in this country.
11:22
Speaker 3: You know, in the States and you know I find it very unfair.
11:27
Speaker 3: The people who you know.
11:28
Speaker 3: I like to knock all the foreigners.
11:30
Speaker 3: Foreigners, how are you going?
11:31
Speaker 3: All right, all enjoy a little Fourth of July and all these things.
11:34
Speaker 3: I like to knock foreigners who go on abroad and live and then like to come and talk about this and what we need to do better.
11:41
Speaker 3: But I was one of them too, you know, because every time I travel I find myself making comparisons between here and there, today, still fighting up with Digicel to make sure I get internet and everything working and things in this new place I'm in, and I had to park, of course, digicel.
11:58
Speaker 3: I had to come to our head office and carry back all the equipment for them to stop your billing and it's the most complicated process.
12:09
Speaker 3: I don't know why they can't just stop billing me when I say I change an apartment, if I know, use any service, what are paying for really?
12:12
Speaker 3: But I had a go now and I can't go to any regular digicel.
12:13
Speaker 3: So last week when I come back I say I'm going in digicel, I can't go in the digital as you usually go.
12:17
Speaker 3: I go in a whatever center they call it.
12:20
Speaker 3: Right, I thought it.
12:21
Speaker 3: I won by tatil on track, uh, marvel road, as far as I would remember.
12:26
Speaker 3: I end up having to go in tongue.
12:27
Speaker 3: Now you boy ain't going tongue in a long time as a chagunist man and a south man and I enjoying living in tongue again.
12:34
Speaker 3: But I like another custom, to tongue I ain't accustomed.
12:37
Speaker 3: So I had to drive now to excellent city center in tongue to find digicel, whatever they call it, the head office or whatever it is where they carry back the thing, and a parkway.
12:47
Speaker 3: Salvatory building is right now.
12:49
Speaker 3: It would be unfair, it would be, it would be ludicrous insanity to try to compare universal studios harry potter section to salvatory building car park in town.
13:00
Speaker 3: But I had to make an appeal to the people who we have a way of doing things in trend that that just is for utility only, right.
13:08
Speaker 3: And I'll say that those that universal studios park the tickets expensive, the food and thing while you're there, expensive, you know.
13:16
Speaker 3: I mean, you're gonna spend a good bit of money when you want to buy a little memorabilia expensive, the photo package expensive.
13:22
Speaker 3: Everything you're gonna spend, spend money right.
13:24
Speaker 3: But the thing about it is it's so well-designed that sometimes you're forgetting the money it's making.
13:31
Speaker 3: You almost forget the real value of money or change the way you would value money in them settings right, especially when it's hot.
13:40
Speaker 3: So you just had to drink water.
13:41
Speaker 3: If you're telling you water is five US, you got to drink that water.
13:44
Speaker 3: It really would not matter, right?
13:45
Speaker 3: But the point I'm making is this we have a way, even in being in Orlando, right being in and around Orlando the shopping center, they build things for utility but they also ensure that they beautify and make this space a space that people could feel good and feel proud and feel confident in and feel safe.
14:05
Speaker 3: You know the place visually safer than when you had to go and park where salvatory building is and I could excuse that.
14:12
Speaker 3: If that salvatory building fall down last year and they now do the car park as a temporary thing, the thing has been a temporary thing for about two decades now.
14:21
Speaker 3: When it is salvatory building come down.
14:22
Speaker 3: Just the basic foundation was left from salvatory building is where people park in now, so your car had to be going up in a thing and then when you reverse now you're coming out in water.
14:33
Speaker 3: You ain't sure if that water or that mud you could fall down.
14:35
Speaker 3: So an older person like myself, when you're walking, if you didn't raise your foot high enough, you could trip and fall.
14:41
Speaker 3: And beyond all all that, beyond all that, it's not nice why we can't make Port of Spain little areas in Port of Spain.
14:49
Speaker 3: Salvatore Building is the heart of Port of Spain.
14:51
Speaker 3: I don't know why it's called that car park, do people who are talking to know why Salvatore Building?
14:56
Speaker 3: Google Salvatore Building, just in case you know where it is right?
14:59
Speaker 3: It's right between Frederick and Henry Street, on Independent, on Blarenara Promenade, independent Square, whatever you call it, marine Square right, but it is ugly, it is unsightly, it is unfinished, it's looking temporary and it's been there since about 1975 and I'm not understanding.
15:18
Speaker 3: So nobody, I'm not sure private, public or what, I don't know who owned the thing.
15:23
Speaker 3: But we need to pass some ordinance on some laws in this country, if they're, and enforce them to ensure that when you put up a car park in town or a building in town, it can't just be that the building could stand up for 10 years and it's structurally.
15:38
Speaker 3: Some of it have a toilet and running water.
15:39
Speaker 3: We had, we had to develop past that point.
15:41
Speaker 3: It can't be just for the basics and for the utility.
15:44
Speaker 3: Not when I've segmented this.
15:46
Speaker 3: We were talking about crime, right, but not when we're complaining about the crime in the country and the crime this and that.
15:51
Speaker 3: If the place is ugly, the crime is going to be high, right.
15:54
Speaker 3: If you take the time and make the place nicer, you put these same youths.
15:58
Speaker 3: Grunge up all the youths and them who are doing crime right and put them in hogwarts right and let them ride to ride and go in what place name eat again, I think them three broomsticks restaurants or something like that.
16:09
Speaker 3: You find that the individual who attracted the crime and attracted to the stupidity of a boss and a bigger, bigger boss, and that is all the ambition you have in life you find that that little switch could change the way somebody see themselves and the way they value their own life and the way they value the life of others.
16:28
Speaker 3: All this make me change my cartel thing, but I'll get back to that.
16:32
Speaker 3: So when I walk through Salvatore Carpark today and see that we had a heart attack as being one of the biggest eyesores and most unsightly things, it helped me from where we come from last week to come and see this here.
16:45
Speaker 3: Wouldn't that make the best and brightest people and people who have access and who could really change the place?
16:54
Speaker 3: Wouldn't that make more and more people like them or like us or like me or like you?
16:58
Speaker 3: Wouldn't that make more of us just want to leave and see migration as a better option?
17:02
Speaker 3: Several people who reach out to me, several who reach out to me, several people who reach out to me about recording and podcasting.
17:08
Speaker 3: They're good, foreign too.
17:09
Speaker 3: All of them are abroad, everybody traveling and doing things.
17:12
Speaker 3: When you go and you see these places that are designed for tourism or just designed for themselves, or if you had to go in government offices in different countries, I mean it's poor.
17:23
Speaker 3: When I look at at least the, the car park that they put up as its central bank of that building city and it was a huge iso for a while, at least the car park properly paved and it had lines and it have a little tree, a little green space.
17:37
Speaker 3: Salute mr ram singing economics and who used to tell me about, he used to teach us about.
17:41
Speaker 3: Uh.
17:41
Speaker 3: He was trying to explain that economics and financial metrics alone is not how you measure human development, like when we talk about first will and all this kind of thing.
17:51
Speaker 3: It's not just about the money, it's about how people see themselves.
17:54
Speaker 3: So he I remember being struck by this in an economics class when he talked about green spaces, how important green spaces are in a city.
18:02
Speaker 3: There's actually a metric for when you're looking at the, the most developed or the best cities in the world, they measure what percentage of it is green space and places that people, because if it's all buildings and concrete jungle style, that doesn't do good for your mental health.
18:18
Speaker 3: You know, I mean and and I don't know, but that that was a real, the little, the little place where people take any money temporary and ugly, the grung, ugly, the fence, ugly, eye ugly, the whole place ugly.
18:30
Speaker 3: Why we can't make it pretty and nice and let people feel good to be in the heart of Port of Spain.
18:37
Speaker 3: But anyway, I went through the Hogwarts.
18:39
Speaker 3: That was amazing and the this is also.
18:45
Speaker 3: You know I don't put a 1% right.
18:47
Speaker 3: I stay away for too long not to be able to come back and talk about the 1% immediately.
18:52
Speaker 3: One of the biggest differences in this country between the haves and the have-nots and the children of the haves versus the have-nots is the level of exposure that the children of the haves have, disposal that the children of the haves have.
19:07
Speaker 3: The people who have, who do well, who figure out something, whether they do well, legal or illegal or what.
19:12
Speaker 3: They travel different places.
19:15
Speaker 3: They see a little more in the world.
19:18
Speaker 3: I wanted to imagine that your whole world that you see is Salvatore building car park, and tell me if that was your child, who all they see was that kind of dilapidation and degradation.
19:30
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, if they could really have a whole lot of ambition and want more for themselves in life, versus the people who every Saturday morning they jump on a boat and they go down the islands and they live in the palatial residences and so on and then they travel and they see nice places.
19:47
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
19:47
Speaker 3: They run a drop of a dime, they run to Paris and France and so on.
19:53
Speaker 3: You're going to have a different quality child, a different quality adult coming out of that space and a child who's sitting in Salvatore car park whole day or whatever equivalent of that.
20:03
Speaker 3: Salvatore Car Park is the community they come from and then they listen to Plumpy Boss and who shoots a Plumpy Boss in St Martin, and if you live and hook off them because one is six and seven and eight and nine, and who can go and listen, it's going to be a different thing.
20:18
Speaker 3: But anyhow, the Universal was nice.
20:21
Speaker 3: Go and check it out.
20:21
Speaker 3: I realized that one of the big shows they had, because the Hogwarts section with Harry Potter had a whole thing, and I realized the Tifuihoul stick fighting, olivier, olivier, olivier, right in the middle of the Hogwarts.
20:33
Speaker 3: I don't know what song they were singing, right, but nobody care.
20:36
Speaker 3: Tell me that that wasn't stick fighting.
20:37
Speaker 3: I never watch movies, you know, so me never had stick fighting the hogwarts, but one of the big shows that all these white folks and I'm watching is good, good stick fighting.
20:47
Speaker 3: I'll tell you as well that we went disney the next day magic kingdom.
20:49
Speaker 3: I'm not going back every time.
20:51
Speaker 3: Any direction you're watching in magic kingdom, I see 5 000 people walking towards me and 5 000 people walking with direction I walk in.
20:59
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that I could do that every line.
21:01
Speaker 3: There was one particular roller coaster we tried to go on.
21:04
Speaker 3: The line was 180 minutes.
21:07
Speaker 3: I think the fast pass was like 100 US per person or something like that, and when I watch the fast pass, it's 60 minutes.
21:14
Speaker 3: I'm not doing that.
21:15
Speaker 3: It was too hot, it was too.
21:16
Speaker 3: And I mean, granted, we went to Universal the day before.
21:20
Speaker 3: So I think we ourselves, we was blown out, we was exhausted.
21:24
Speaker 3: So before, so I think we ourselves was, we was blown out, we was exhausted.
21:27
Speaker 3: So you know what, by the Friday, we ain't go on one single water slide, none, I used to sit down in that lazy pool, me, stacy, zachary.
21:36
Speaker 3: Well, nana, never even Nana.
21:37
Speaker 3: I didn't think Nana come out of the eating area.
21:41
Speaker 3: Nana sit down the whole time.
21:43
Speaker 3: She missed the whole of Volcano Bay.
21:45
Speaker 3: But we went in a lazy river, we made some wrongs, we bathed in a wave pool and we was glad to see you out of this.
21:50
Speaker 3: So that was me, that was me, that was me.
21:52
Speaker 3: That's why I was abroad and I did plan to record before I leave.
21:56
Speaker 3: I did plan to record as soon as I come back.
21:57
Speaker 3: But, as I say, the technicalities fighting me, so I might find myself by affordable imports very soon.
22:04
Speaker 3: Salute to conrad.
22:04
Speaker 3: I hope affordable imports, really affordable, otherwise I'm gonna see my for a while again.
22:10
Speaker 3: But yeah, we're here, we're here, we're here.
22:11
Speaker 3: What did I miss?
22:12
Speaker 3: What did I?
22:12
Speaker 3: I guess?
22:13
Speaker 3: I guess the hottest topic on the on the on the dockets is the olympics right.
22:17
Speaker 3: Salute to all the olympians from trinidad and tobago, first and foremost.
22:23
Speaker 3: So you know how it goes right.
22:26
Speaker 3: We're backing Trinidad first.
22:29
Speaker 3: We have a way of doing this we're backing Trinidad first and then we're backing the rest of the Caribbean.
22:34
Speaker 3: The rest of the Caribbean and Trinidad, kind of like one.
22:37
Speaker 3: We always support one another and then we're backing kind of like Africa, and then we're backing the black Americans.
22:43
Speaker 3: You know a we have a order in the way we do this thing.
22:48
Speaker 3: We still don't like to see white people win too much, but the Trinidadian team.
22:52
Speaker 3: I will say that when I saw the opening the little glimpses I catch, the opening I was still abroad when the opening was going on but, um, the opening had its own bunch of controversies and I think we had, we had to keep in mind that france and paris, paris, paris, france, you know that that country is one of the most controversial countries when it comes to loud and, uh, controversial or obnoxious, protesting or even violent.
23:22
Speaker 3: Right, we like to talk about paris as a city of romance and them kind of thing, but I want us to remember that paris is, as colonizers, just like a lot of them in europe, but they're very, very um, what was the way they're looking for?
23:35
Speaker 3: Like a break?
23:36
Speaker 3: We must look up the history of france when it comes to revolutions and protests and those types of things, and and that will give some understanding.
23:44
Speaker 3: As to the debate on the opening ceremony, because I one thing, I one thing I like is that it's the social media.
23:50
Speaker 3: Social media like the idea of making somebody else wrong, you know, I mean social media bring us into an era where the only way to prove you right is to prove I wrong, which I find is a kind of nonsense and might be one of the reasons I start recording this story, because I can't take backing.
24:09
Speaker 3: And with people on social media who woke and have all the information after one or two google switch, they have all the information about everything and act as if you post anything that you didn't have all the information on you.
24:22
Speaker 3: It's a big, utter dummy.
24:23
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, they had like, they had like social media.
24:25
Speaker 3: You know.
24:25
Speaker 3: Salute to everybody who could do them long posts and I was just talking to my boy salute morris burke.
24:31
Speaker 3: Right, he's one of them who tends to.
24:33
Speaker 3: He had the energy sometimes sometimes he's good ignore people too, but he had the energy to back and forth with people.
24:38
Speaker 3: I I can't do it, because I learned from a fellow named Dr David Brizan one time right, and he said there's less value, and I'm paraphrasing, but what I took from him was it had less value in this idea that you're wrong and I'm right and I'm right and you're wrong.
24:56
Speaker 3: It really comes down to what is useful.
24:59
Speaker 3: So the way I look at debates or disagreements with people, I kind of look at it more as this information useful.
25:07
Speaker 3: Is this debate useful?
25:09
Speaker 3: Are both of us?
25:10
Speaker 3: Is there a chance that when we talk about this topic, both of us could come out better?
25:14
Speaker 3: Because I learned something from you, you learned something from me.
25:17
Speaker 3: I see something from a different perspective, or is it?
25:20
Speaker 3: Is it or even is it entertaining, right?
25:23
Speaker 3: Is it entertaining?
25:24
Speaker 3: Is it fun?
25:24
Speaker 3: Because it's not bound to be educational?
25:28
Speaker 3: Like our partner named Juan Salute, my guy, juan I like to argue with Juan because it's entertaining.
25:33
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
25:34
Speaker 3: We talk some, we make our raps and things, and we know that we're not going to argue to the point where I vex with him and he vex with me.
25:42
Speaker 3: If that is what it is, I'm coming out of that because it doesn't matter at that point if jp right and I wrong, and that don't matter.
25:52
Speaker 3: What matter is that it's not useful for jp to be vexed with me, because who I could call tomorrow?
25:57
Speaker 3: I talk to this man every day.
25:58
Speaker 3: Nothing with sense at all, nothing that ever senses sensible, progressive or whatever partner.
26:04
Speaker 3: So the way I approach any kind of debate on any topic is more is it useful?
26:10
Speaker 3: You know, like I hear people say, does it need to be said?
26:14
Speaker 3: Does it need to be said right now, does it need to be said by me?
26:17
Speaker 3: And then that that is usually get me to shut up a lot of times and even when I'm feeling something bubbling inside me to respond to people online, a lot of times I type them things in halfway through.
26:28
Speaker 3: I will delete that.
26:30
Speaker 3: I prefer to dm somebody if they're that important to me and if the conversation useful or if I enjoy talking to that person.
26:39
Speaker 3: I could do that and look at some different points of view.
26:42
Speaker 3: Or if you say something about me directly, I'll probably DM you and I can tell you my perspective or my take on it, or if you ask me something directly.
26:51
Speaker 3: But the truth is that when you look at the opening ceremony, let me talk about the Greek mythology or the Last Supper, whichever one you want to call it right One of the first things that happened to me and it's like nobody asked me.
27:05
Speaker 3: Nobody asked me what's my opinion about this thing, and I thank god for a platform where you know I mean I built a little platform where I could come and distill this thing in my own way and, nicely, I could watch a screen and talk about it without having to talk to anybody about it and anybody getting vexed.
27:24
Speaker 3: Because once it comes to people, religion or the politics, or the sexuality and gender these days, you know, I mean it could it could start to get, it could start to get heated people, people you could see why people will be offended by something right.
27:39
Speaker 3: So I tend to not want to debate religion with people.
27:46
Speaker 3: If me and you good, I will probably talk about it because it will be useful I could get a different perspective.
27:57
Speaker 3: Politics is the same thing.
27:59
Speaker 3: Like every now and again I talk to my father.
28:01
Speaker 3: But my father and my brother like american politics a lot.
28:06
Speaker 3: Right, they follow american politics and you know they, they, they, they up to date on everything that fox news say and who's the next one msnbc, and they know who trump would think.
28:17
Speaker 3: And my father said biden is the best.
28:19
Speaker 3: Um, biden is a smart man.
28:21
Speaker 3: His take is that Biden fully well know he was dropping out of the race, but he went down to the last so that he could um bait Trump into thinking he go listen.
28:31
Speaker 3: I don't believe any of that.
28:31
Speaker 3: I don't.
28:32
Speaker 3: I see Biden over the last.
28:33
Speaker 3: I don't think he was fully in control.
28:35
Speaker 3: I don't think he was fully cognizant of what go.
28:37
Speaker 3: I don't think Biden know he not running at this point, them still trying to explain to him.
28:43
Speaker 3: A matter of fact, if only keeper anybody ever applied if only apply the unbind now I sure they have him campaigning and going and debate people looking like trump and thing.
28:53
Speaker 3: I don't think he know he drop out and he had kamala harris now running the race which my father seems to think that kamala going and win for sure trump do have a chance.
29:00
Speaker 3: I think the exact opposite.
29:03
Speaker 3: But again, I know my father.
29:04
Speaker 3: I could debate that with him and talk about that with him and stuff, because it's not useful for me to go on facebook among strangers where I have a limited amount of words that I could say.
29:13
Speaker 3: I don't have any tone of voice that I could say it in.
29:16
Speaker 3: I don't have any facial expressions to let you know that I cool and I have the chance of this going beyond the people who I stalk to on Facebook.
29:25
Speaker 3: A conversation with my father and I'm home by them.
29:27
Speaker 3: It's not going to go beyond there.
29:29
Speaker 3: He can't take my words unless he records me.
29:31
Speaker 3: And I could do it on a podcast too, where if I say it in the wrong way, I could press the button.
29:36
Speaker 3: Well, when buttons used to work, I could press the button rewind, say that again, don't like how it's sung and even take it down if I need to.
29:50
Speaker 3: All the ones I publish it, gone right.
29:51
Speaker 3: But I I tend not to stay away from topics like those with people.
29:52
Speaker 3: They had one uber driver when he pick us up from universal.
29:54
Speaker 3: So this guy and his fella.
29:54
Speaker 3: So he wants to talk about trump and he say 180 families every day migrating to florida because democratic politics, is it worse?
30:01
Speaker 3: And they want the thing and the thing.
30:02
Speaker 3: I say wow, wow, I play, and I never hear the word Biden.
30:08
Speaker 3: I say Biden, that's his person name.
30:10
Speaker 3: Oh, he running against.
30:11
Speaker 3: Who's the other guy Running for UNC, trump?
30:14
Speaker 3: I don't know.
30:15
Speaker 3: Who is what.
30:16
Speaker 3: I don't know nothing.
30:18
Speaker 3: I'm trying to play a sleep in the morning and want me to sleep.
30:20
Speaker 3: He wants to talk about politics.
30:22
Speaker 3: I avoid things like this, but a way, and he wanted me to sleep, he wanted to talk about politics.
30:26
Speaker 3: I avoid things like this, but I want you to remember again, when it comes to the opening ceremony, that French by design, by history, they tend to like the controversial road, they tend to like the type of protest that's in your face and it's a big global issue, and that's the culture of the people.
30:43
Speaker 3: I'm sure the Olympic Committee knew this when they went to france, or anybody who hosted any major world event know this when they go in france.
30:50
Speaker 3: It is what it is.
30:52
Speaker 3: That's why it was way willing to tolerate right.
30:54
Speaker 3: So, the olympic committee, they come out with this thing that uh supposed to have come from greek mythology and uh, I think they say the g god of wine, dionysus, you don't know nothing about these things.
31:07
Speaker 3: You see all them Greek mythology and things where they try to beat me in school to learn who is this us and that one us and Pegasus.
31:14
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about these things.
31:18
Speaker 3: Them things never interest me.
31:20
Speaker 3: I was a child.
31:21
Speaker 3: When they say representation matters, I was that child, unless that person in that mythology, look West Indian and talk like a Trini or a Caribbean person I was not interested in.
31:33
Speaker 3: None of them set a way for.
31:34
Speaker 3: And henceforth, what was the movie everybody watched with Russell Crowe and them gladiators?
31:40
Speaker 3: Oh, I remember Easter when they used to make me watch Ben-Hur and King of Kings.
31:44
Speaker 3: May have no, oh, you remember Easter when they used to make we watch Ben-Hur and King of Kings?
31:46
Speaker 3: I have no interest in none of them things.
31:48
Speaker 3: Once I start to see this white man carrying a cross and all that kind of thing conk me out.
31:53
Speaker 3: I carry late.
31:54
Speaker 3: I don't understand what none of them things mean.
31:55
Speaker 3: So when I see the debate going on About this is a Greek thing and everybody now get bright.
32:03
Speaker 3: Everybody is an expert in Greek mythology.
32:04
Speaker 3: Because Christian people come out and was upset Because they say the thing looking like the last supper and it was a mockery.
32:11
Speaker 3: Because they have a man.
32:12
Speaker 3: What do they call him?
32:13
Speaker 3: The long time ways Call him track cross dresser.
32:15
Speaker 3: I can't remember the word they're using.
32:18
Speaker 3: They say they're promoting the LBGT agenda and mocking God.
32:23
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
32:24
Speaker 3: I think it might be mocking God.
32:26
Speaker 3: I don't know that.
32:28
Speaker 3: I ever watched the Last Supper and see God on that.
32:30
Speaker 3: I don't know what you see.
32:31
Speaker 3: That is not.
32:33
Speaker 3: If you listen to this long enough, you know my take on some of these things right.
32:37
Speaker 3: I think it's a nice painting.
32:39
Speaker 3: It's from Da Vinci's perspective, which has been questioned and questionable for a long time.
32:44
Speaker 3: So I don't hold the kind of reverence for things like the last supper that somebody who very catholic or very christian would hold us on a nice painting.
32:54
Speaker 3: I think I went to, um, I went to a church in milana time called duomo, the do.
33:02
Speaker 3: I think Duomo means church or like cathedral or something, and is that somebody?
33:07
Speaker 3: Go remind me?
33:08
Speaker 3: Is that is the place in Milan, the place where they have the last supper, milan church, last supper.
33:15
Speaker 3: Let me see if I'd really see this thing in person.
33:19
Speaker 3: I can't remember.
33:20
Speaker 3: Let's just tell you how, oh yeah, it is.
33:24
Speaker 3: I see in here, milan museum, milan.
33:26
Speaker 3: Uh, the last supper later in the adventure was one of the most famous paintings in the world.
33:33
Speaker 3: The artwork was painted between 1494 and 1498 all these things.
33:37
Speaker 3: You see, when they give me these kind of facts, my, I just feel these people lied to.
33:40
Speaker 3: You know how.
33:41
Speaker 3: We know that anyway, uh, under the government of whosoever, and so on and so on.
33:45
Speaker 3: What is the Leonardo's Last Supper?
33:47
Speaker 3: It's located in its original place, on the wall of the dining room of the former Dominican Covenant of Santa Maria del Garza, exactly in the refectory of the.
33:58
Speaker 3: Why are you trying to read this, for I think they say it's in Duomo.
34:01
Speaker 3: So they say on a short distance from leonardo's davinci's last supper is duomo square, in the historic center of the city of milan.
34:11
Speaker 3: So I can't remember now if it is in that church or now they're saying it's on a wall.
34:16
Speaker 3: It's not actually on a.
34:17
Speaker 3: Uh, which church in milan has the last supper?
34:22
Speaker 3: Santa maria del gra, holy Mary.
34:24
Speaker 3: Well, the church I see in here is not the church I went to in Milan.
34:27
Speaker 3: I don't think, but I could be wrong.
34:29
Speaker 3: But anyway, we went in there and we saw a whole lot of these ancient paintings that they beat, we had to learn in Sunday school and all these things and I have no reverence for them, things whatsoever.
34:39
Speaker 3: It looked nice, it looked nice to me, I found it nice, it looked nice to me, I very nice.
34:47
Speaker 3: But the thing about it again, going back to the idea of being useful, I would say for me it's not useful to pick a fight like my wife.
34:52
Speaker 3: My wife would probably hold, uh, the last supper in a, in a, with a sense of reverence.
34:59
Speaker 3: So if somebody doing something, or even if I in my bad joke and saying thing, why I make her mock ready paint.
35:06
Speaker 3: She's not going to like that.
35:07
Speaker 3: So I had to ask myself no, corey, is it useful for you to go and show your wife glass supper and paint it over in a different way and show her LBGT?
35:18
Speaker 3: That's not useful for me because I go have weeks and weeks and weeks of headache after that.
35:23
Speaker 3: Not worth it to me, not worth it to me, not worth it to me.
35:27
Speaker 3: So whether I'm not saying it wasn't greek mythology and this is people, people arguing that you see, if you think, and only showing all yourself as big out and done, because only come out and it's obvious that people who are christians would be offended by this right.
35:40
Speaker 3: I think it's obvious in designing this, when you're doing a, let's say, you're doing a play.
35:46
Speaker 3: The last thing I tell all about was calypso rose and um, uh, stacy so was doing calypso rose and so on.
35:53
Speaker 3: Right as the last player went to, it was clear to me that some thought went into that play on how they will treat with certain issues with calypso rose when they will bring it in.
36:03
Speaker 3: How will they bring it in?
36:04
Speaker 3: How they were, they were sensitive to the matters about calypso rose and her own choices.
36:09
Speaker 3: They were also sensitive in how they showed sparrow in the.
36:12
Speaker 3: I guarantee you rumor spencer, and then we just sit down and talk about, okay, they had a battle between sparrow and rose in the early days and sparrow might have well come out as chauvinistic, sexist, all the things they say these days about man right, mansplaining, gaslighting, all these new age terms.
36:31
Speaker 3: I'm sure sparrow would have come out all on the wrong side of all those things.
36:35
Speaker 3: But I don't think that rumor spencer would have found it very useful to create a piece that praises rose and while doing so put down another legend in sparrow.
36:48
Speaker 3: They would have thought through it.
36:49
Speaker 3: These things are happening by guess.
36:51
Speaker 3: But I want to tell you as well that, while I mightn't find it useful to do, because if I had to design the olympic ceremony like we had a trinidadian do before, it's not too far-fetched and all them, I never know I might get a call to do the opening ceremony one day.
37:02
Speaker 3: I'll call lost tribe, they will fix up that for me.
37:04
Speaker 3: But if I get a call to do the opening ceremony one day, I'll call Lost Tribe, they'll fix up that for me.
37:09
Speaker 3: But if I get a call, I would be considerate of the people who I, my audience.
37:14
Speaker 3: My audience made up of what they used to like to say these days.
37:17
Speaker 3: You had to put it on your resume, right DEI?
37:20
Speaker 3: They didn't want to put DEIs, they put DEI Diversity, exclusion and inclusion.
37:26
Speaker 3: And what do you next?
37:27
Speaker 3: E stand for Equity.
37:29
Speaker 3: So diversity, equity and inclusion that put it on your resume and you will get whatever job you're looking for.
37:35
Speaker 3: I just put that.
37:35
Speaker 3: Put Corey Shepard, d-e-i certified.
37:39
Speaker 3: They wouldn't even check to see where you get it from.
37:41
Speaker 3: But because I understand that I have, uh, several audiences, I have an audience here I talk into.
37:46
Speaker 3: I'm very careful about what I say and who I offend.
37:49
Speaker 3: I do.
37:49
Speaker 3: I play them games and not because of political correctness or whatever term you want to use, because I just don't want to.
37:56
Speaker 3: I don't want to be offending people.
37:57
Speaker 3: If I offend people, my views and thing will grow faster, but that is not for me.
38:02
Speaker 3: I will take my time.
38:03
Speaker 3: So imagine I have a global audience now in the uh, in the olympic opening.
38:10
Speaker 3: I had to consider all your resumes are people who are dei and civil rights.
38:15
Speaker 3: We want to make sure that there's a certain amount of equity and inclusion here, because the olympics is not about america and england and the big countries alone.
38:22
Speaker 3: We had to make sure we, inclusive of the smaller nations who might not have the kind of budgets and who might be starting at a minus, basically, and those types of things.
38:30
Speaker 3: We have different people from different genders, different backgrounds, different sexuality, different religions.
38:35
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do it.
38:37
Speaker 3: And so suppose, in my innocence, I come up with some kind of skit and then I start to realize but wait, this skit, this looking like a hijab.
38:44
Speaker 3: You know, I kind of skit.
38:49
Speaker 3: And then I started to realize but wait, this skit, this, this looking like a hijab.
38:51
Speaker 3: You know, I call in my consultant and the I know who are some muslim.
38:53
Speaker 3: I said, boy, this group, but what you think here?
38:54
Speaker 3: I said, boy, let me cut, it's not worth it, it's not useful.
38:55
Speaker 3: Because I, like minshul, I want to be talked about in the best of lights.
38:58
Speaker 3: When it comes to the olympic opening, I want it to be memorable because a lot of times go back to the olympics and the world cup right, which is the pinnacle of global sporting competitions or events.
39:12
Speaker 3: Right, when you see you do a good opening, like I remember that that that inextricably linked to that world cup that it was.
39:33
Speaker 3: I said, was that south africa.
39:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's um and the waka waka and the vuvuzela thing, all them things linked to the south africa, even if you can't remember who win the world cup.
39:43
Speaker 3: Because the, the olympics and thing is not only for sport people, people who don't like sport imagine I see stacy, who don't know who's important at all, telling me about noah lyles and the 200 is really strong points.
39:54
Speaker 3: And this is.
39:55
Speaker 3: This is for non-sports people and fringe people to become a part of the thing.
39:59
Speaker 3: Right, it's not just for hardcore sporting people.
40:02
Speaker 3: So sometimes the opening ceremony could be the highlight that make the games and the thing that people remember and the songs that we play, and those are the things that make the game special.
40:12
Speaker 3: So it's not useful to me to offend any one group at the expense of another.
40:16
Speaker 3: I don't care if it was Greek mythology.
40:18
Speaker 3: When I see that I could say, hey, this is an ode to the greek who started the olympics.
40:25
Speaker 3: But when it comes to this visual, this is going to offend a lot of people because they would not know that this greek thing and this looking like a last supper and I'm not sure if a man whole seed bag is the best way to represent anything I mean of just christ.
40:41
Speaker 3: No pun intended, it don't look good.
40:45
Speaker 3: Somebody was there saying that, but I will tell you this while I might say that it's not useful to me, I think it was useful to france, because them fellas like that, them like to be wherever the controversy is or the protest is or the revolution is.
41:00
Speaker 3: France want to be at the center.
41:01
Speaker 3: That them see that and know that and approve that.
41:05
Speaker 3: And when it went up and they don't care, there's a anybody who has been to france, listeners, you know.
41:12
Speaker 3: I mean, tell me like you hear a lot of people who went to paris and then talk about the fact that if you go there and you're you're talking english, you're not making an effort to talk there.
41:22
Speaker 3: People, people look down at you.
41:23
Speaker 3: You know.
41:23
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
41:24
Speaker 3: They see themselves as better, they look at Americans as less, and it shows throughout the games.
41:29
Speaker 3: When I see in the opening ceremony I ain't going to talk about Trinidad uniform yet, right, because the Trinidad uniform, it want to look a little bit like a sailor mask and a pan around the neck side and a one that was the opening ceremony I say Lamaze and I pan around the next side.
41:49
Speaker 3: I look like Staliff could have worn that to beat some pan somewhere.
41:51
Speaker 3: And I know there's a place called the Hideout Clothing Store in Long Circular Mall.
41:58
Speaker 3: Initials or acronym or whatever THC you make of that, what you will.
42:03
Speaker 3: They closed down this story and retail is what the man was doing.
42:07
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I don't know that they was doing design.
42:10
Speaker 3: Well, come into the thing about it.
42:11
Speaker 3: They did use have their own branded jerseys and thing inside the all um thc vibe right.
42:17
Speaker 3: But I know I know I might talk about it here as well where they they left and they went to france to start up their start the business and start a design thing.
42:27
Speaker 3: So I'm glad for them.
42:28
Speaker 3: If they in france and trainees come in france, why not design it over?
42:31
Speaker 3: And I find nothing wrong with me looking like like starlift.
42:34
Speaker 3: I just find we should do it like more deliberately.
42:36
Speaker 3: Like it look.
42:37
Speaker 3: Some of the elements of the thing look a little bit like an afterthought and yet I remember that athletes and things, young young people going there to represent trinidad young young people represented trinidad and to be able to.
42:49
Speaker 3: So gotta give them something youthful.
42:51
Speaker 3: But I finally look all right.
42:53
Speaker 3: I don't think it was as big a controversy as as they might say.
42:56
Speaker 3: But what I do know is that when france want to be the loud one, that they don't care if they're wrong or right them, decide that this, this will be the standout and the, the dokeness, the dokeness, the, the, the about french.
43:12
Speaker 3: It showed, when they have announcers there again controversial issues that if I sit down with somebody doing announcing for a of a opening ceremony, I always remember Fazir Muhammad talking about this.
43:28
Speaker 3: You know, salute the Birdie and Barney podcast, right?
43:30
Speaker 3: I always remember Fazir Muhammad saying that he spent the time to learn all the players' names from I believe it was an African country, he had said.
43:40
Speaker 3: He said because if we could take the time and learn Braithwaite and Braffet and Sidebottom, why we can't take the time to learn quote unquote exotic names, what the colonizers call exotic names?
43:53
Speaker 3: You could call people by their right name.
43:55
Speaker 3: It's the most respectful thing you could do, especially as a commentator.
43:58
Speaker 3: So if I had to call out the Olympic ceremony, I am conscious now the place is not Trinidad, it's Trinidad and tobago, a mistake I make often.
44:07
Speaker 3: I say it's antigua and buabudo.
44:08
Speaker 3: I want to be.
44:09
Speaker 3: I want to be right down the middle, not offensive to anybody.
44:13
Speaker 3: So tell me how any other country in the world could be hosting the olympics and the announcer make a mistake and refer to south korea as north North Korea, then you're uninformed, you're underprepared, but most of all, you don't care.
44:27
Speaker 3: And I think France, the French, want to tell the world they don't care.
44:33
Speaker 3: That's my belief, right?
44:34
Speaker 3: This is my belief.
44:35
Speaker 3: Them want to tell the world we don't care.
44:37
Speaker 3: We hosting you here.
44:39
Speaker 3: You go swimming.
44:41
Speaker 3: What do you call the place?
44:42
Speaker 3: The Seine?
44:42
Speaker 3: That way, they want to show the place the Seine.
44:44
Speaker 3: That's what people are doing.
44:45
Speaker 3: They want to show the world that they don't care.
44:48
Speaker 3: I saw another clip going on where they have South Sudan winning an event.
44:57
Speaker 3: I can't remember what was the event now and when.
45:00
Speaker 3: They went time to announce not announce, but the medal ceremony, the most prideful part of the medal ceremony.
45:14
Speaker 3: Let me flash back to 2006 World Cup, right, where we didn't win a game, we didn't score a goal.
45:22
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, the highlight of the World Cup was our red card.
45:26
Speaker 3: I think it was Avery, john, don't Cornel Glenn?
45:30
Speaker 3: What's the next man's name?
45:30
Speaker 3: Evans?
45:31
Speaker 3: Why is it Cornel Glenn?
45:32
Speaker 3: I think it was Hiddy Post and Brent Sancho scored a home goal and Crouch grabbed it.
45:38
Speaker 3: Here.
45:39
Speaker 3: He had the most eventful World Cup of all.
45:41
Speaker 3: Right, but I'll tell you this In Germany it didn't matter where it was and it didn't matter how I feel about Trinidad and Tobago, it didn't matter who was in power and who I vexed with on the opposition, it didn't matter what it was.
45:55
Speaker 3: Every time that anthem play my eye full of water, especially in that stadium.
45:59
Speaker 3: We're trying to think it's only about three of us Myself, a matter of fact, it might be, yeah, maybe just three of us who sit down together Myself, a friend named Desiree at the time, um, and maybe Swazette, if I remember right.
46:16
Speaker 3: But whatever it is, it's true, we, in a sea of Swedish people, and we try to sing that anthem like if it's 70,000 away inside there, and I can't make, because tears, tears, just to see us there and hear that anthem me prepare for the world cup.
46:31
Speaker 3: I borrow money to buy plane tickets, I kick a ball.
46:34
Speaker 3: I understand, right, understand what them players feeling although birchall didn't know the answer.
46:40
Speaker 3: They understand what the other real trend begonians was feeling on that field when they had to sing that anthem.
46:46
Speaker 3: So imagine and we ain't winning a thing, that's just the first game, right, we just hear it.
46:50
Speaker 3: Imagine what it would feel like to, under all the things like Michel Lea, he say only doesn't support you, only against you, only say I beat woman.
46:58
Speaker 3: Only carry the flag, only fight, only get only funding your lack of, only the funding you didn't get, and all them things you reach and you win.
47:06
Speaker 3: Now you know he's a hero in your country, he's a hero in time.
47:13
Speaker 3: And when them, going up on the podium now for south sudan, they play the sudanese anthem, which is, I mean, if you do a little bit, you've gone, google it and see this is people who struggled to get the independence recently, you know, I mean and, and and the pride they had and the moment that they could come and say now, hey, we are, we first medal, this is what you do to their moment.
47:34
Speaker 3: And again, I, I, I believe this is my belief that the french want to tell the rest of the world that we don't really care.
47:41
Speaker 3: We did the french way is the way, and if you can't conform to that, we're not really concerned.
47:47
Speaker 3: And sometimes that concern has come, that lack of concern has come deliberately, like what the opening ceremony was and and what the man named gandalf.
47:55
Speaker 3: We can't remember the man name, never the blue man name.
47:57
Speaker 3: You know your name by making that look close to the last supper and and, and, and, to have people who run into facebook to say you see, this was great thing.
48:06
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know what people are thinking, everybody else ship it because you smart, right, but it was deliberate in my opinion, and that is how the, the docker, the show but the docker is always also show to me by being willfully unprepared.
48:20
Speaker 3: Willfully unprepared so that they they call it in the wrong name.
48:24
Speaker 3: You just apologize is the french, you know.
48:26
Speaker 3: I mean, the announcement should have been made in french anyway.
48:28
Speaker 3: All the hell cares.
48:29
Speaker 3: So sudan was that.
48:31
Speaker 3: There's something that is nothing to me.
48:32
Speaker 3: Evidence of this will come.
48:35
Speaker 3: I want you to take this and take my word here, because mistakes has happened all over the world.
48:39
Speaker 3: Right, but mistake is mistake and deliberate is deliberate.
48:41
Speaker 3: I want somebody make a mistake with the french anthem in some game somewhere.
48:47
Speaker 3: See where they beat argentina the other day, like if they win something, where argentina beat them in the world cup and things.
48:52
Speaker 3: When it's time, I want them to call wrong name and you know what I mean, play wrong anthem and them types of things and watch the fiery protests go up.
49:00
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
49:02
Speaker 3: I ain't getting Frenchy, but salute to everybody who went French in one percentedness and so on.
49:08
Speaker 3: Salute to y'all and everybody who in the Olympics.
49:10
Speaker 3: Salute to all our athletes too.
49:13
Speaker 3: We had a long list of athletes there.
49:16
Speaker 3: Did I have that?
49:17
Speaker 3: I know?
49:18
Speaker 3: I rewrote down the names of all the athletes at some point in this life and, of course, now that it's time to talk about it, I can't find it, but some of them that come into mind would be all right, have a day Dylan Carter, devin, augustin, leo, bertrand, zuri, fergusonon several of them.
49:36
Speaker 3: And when I see the congrats so we ain't really placed I don't think we was in much finals, either in this world cup, right, in this olympics.
49:41
Speaker 3: We ain't really.
49:41
Speaker 3: It's not the strongest olympic team and I feel like we suffering now or we paying the price now for not having too many proper sporting.
49:54
Speaker 3: Well, from the standpoint of investment, both in terms of money and effort and so on, not enough being invested, as Michel Ayi, and that is a constant complaint by athletes, most of the athletes if we look back at the Olympics and think men win the gold and the silver and the bronze and things on their own merit, the support and things, sometimes even the support like back in, like people saying, hey, we back in here, we watching you.
50:18
Speaker 3: A lot of the support come after the fact, after they done get some kind of accomplishment.
50:22
Speaker 3: So it's something that we definitely have to improve if, if we want to seriously compete on the world stage.
50:29
Speaker 3: And my philosophy is, or maybe my question is are we proud of the Trini athletes or we rather talk about celebrating mediocrity?
50:38
Speaker 3: I'll tell you my position before I get into it.
50:40
Speaker 3: Right, I believe that it's better we just celebrate these athletes and congratulate them and be happy for them and root for them and everything.
50:48
Speaker 3: I remember being in Smokey and Bunty when Atto won a silver medal.
50:51
Speaker 3: Now, don't go back and check what age I was then.
50:54
Speaker 3: This is St James, this is a little bit loose in St James, but I remember Atto coming in second and I remember how disappointed everybody in Smokey looked and we had to start back up our chant for Atto and things because people was like and they didn't like how Atto used to talk and beat his chest and all them kind of things.
51:08
Speaker 3: And people remember that in that 100 them days like now, if you fall, started out them days.
51:15
Speaker 3: You had two false starts, I believe.
51:17
Speaker 3: If the same person falls start twice, then that person ejected.
51:21
Speaker 3: So I believe that that race at a win is silver.
51:26
Speaker 3: They had two different false starts, if I remember right, and there was one particular start that I took it.
51:31
Speaker 3: It was, it was, it was correct.
51:32
Speaker 3: It was one particular start that Atu get.
51:34
Speaker 3: It was correct.
51:34
Speaker 3: It was the ideal start for him and he was known for a fast start, if I remember right, right, and I remember him upset but he had to pull back and start for the race.
51:41
Speaker 3: He come second right and I mean Atu is at the heart of this Olympics too.
51:45
Speaker 3: You know, salute Atu, salute Atu.
51:49
Speaker 3: Atu might be the best Trinidadian representative we have in the Olympics up to today, but I feel like if, because when you look at Leah Bertrand, I don't know none of.
51:59
Speaker 3: We didn't know, I certainly didn't.
52:00
Speaker 3: I don't know any of these names before they reached the Olympic stage.
52:04
Speaker 3: So who is me now to tell them they're the underperformer?
52:07
Speaker 3: We're celebrating meocracy.
52:08
Speaker 3: These girls went and do that on their own.
52:10
Speaker 3: They're making their own investment going to practice on their own.
52:13
Speaker 3: They're making their own investment going to practice on their own.
52:14
Speaker 3: Very little funding.
52:15
Speaker 3: I don't think we do enough as a country to really come down on athletes and talk about celebrating mediocrity.
52:20
Speaker 3: I think we had to start to put pressure on the administration here so that the administration understand that we're taking sports seriously and we want to.
52:29
Speaker 3: We we want to back these athletes, we want to hold them to a higher standard, but we want to hold them to a higher standard.
52:35
Speaker 3: But we can't hold them to a higher standard if we collectively not doing our part.
52:38
Speaker 3: I don't think it's fair.
52:38
Speaker 3: I also don't think it's fair when we have a country of people who, whether Barcelona up or down, they're wearing the Barca jersey, whether Arsenal win or Arsenal going to loss, every single time, and men is wearing Arsenal jersey as a badge of honour.
52:59
Speaker 3: These are people who owned us before and traded us for nothing and make us work for nothing.
53:04
Speaker 3: This is the clubs that we support in you know what I mean and we support them like diehard supporters, whether they're good, bad, mediocre.
53:12
Speaker 3: Well, in Arsenal case, I mean it's perpetually mediocre and we still support them.
53:16
Speaker 3: I mean I shouldn't say that as a Chelsea man, really but we support the Real Madrid's and the Barcelona's and the enslavers, basically the colonized people.
53:26
Speaker 3: I tell all the.
53:29
Speaker 3: I went on an Uber and the Englishman tell me you know, we like to call the white folks colonizers.
53:35
Speaker 3: What do they call us?
53:36
Speaker 3: The colonized?
53:37
Speaker 3: The man told me he's a colonized self.
53:40
Speaker 3: Now, he didn't say it's not mean, but it really hit me hard when he said, yeah, you're a colony.
53:44
Speaker 3: I was like what's happening right now.
53:46
Speaker 3: But yeah, we support these things and we wear them jerseys, buy the new one Every.
53:52
Speaker 3: We wear them jerseys, buy the new one every new season.
53:53
Speaker 3: We're looking for what and we're inside with them.
53:55
Speaker 3: So I don't understand why we can't have that kind of die hard support.
53:58
Speaker 3: For if Arsenal could put us aside and lost every year, if we put us aside every four years and they make no finals, I find it's just treat them like Arsenal.
54:08
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
54:08
Speaker 3: Once they compete, we could feel happy for them and move on with life.
54:14
Speaker 3: Man, be proud of our athletes.
54:15
Speaker 3: I probably certainly proud of them.
54:17
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't, I don't subscribe to them.
54:19
Speaker 3: Facebook comments I like to say we take mediocrity and you know, and I think sometimes we forget that athletes is real.
54:27
Speaker 3: People are seeing more and more now in several sports right where athletes coming out and talk about their mental, mental health issues.
54:34
Speaker 3: You just have athletes under all this pressure and what they should do and what they should accomplish.
54:39
Speaker 3: These people dedicate their life to this thing.
54:41
Speaker 3: If they something go wrong on a day like I, look at um, salute, salute, of course, um to our solution, julian alfred, I mean salute to him.
54:51
Speaker 3: I'm so glad you know the other thing too, right.
54:55
Speaker 3: I like Shaqiri Richard.
54:57
Speaker 3: Thank you, wallace.
54:59
Speaker 3: I like to see a woman who, on top of games, she trains hard, she works hard as an athlete.
55:06
Speaker 3: I like when they have a little mouth too and they give people talk and let them know they're going to beat people bad.
55:12
Speaker 3: I don't know why people find that women in sports should be meek and humble.
55:19
Speaker 3: This is killers.
55:20
Speaker 3: Athletes is killers.
55:21
Speaker 3: You're supposed to act like a killer.
55:23
Speaker 3: Come out there and tell people.
55:24
Speaker 3: You remember Hazley Crawford saying he went in the dressing room and said I'm cutting everybody's ass today and you do it.
55:30
Speaker 3: So I like to see athletes, male or female, with a little bit of edge, with a little bit of bad mind and badness in them.
55:38
Speaker 3: For the rest of athletes, I think I always remember dennis mitchell coming here watching stacy, watching a thing called sprint on netflix and dennis mitchell is shakari richardson coach.
55:46
Speaker 3: It make perfect sense to me because I saw dennis mitchell run against ato in the stadium.
55:50
Speaker 3: No, atto beat him, properly beat him.
55:52
Speaker 3: But before the race Dennis Mitchell was oozing a kind of bravado and cockiness and things.
55:59
Speaker 3: They was booing him before.
56:00
Speaker 3: The people was upset, not just because we were backing Atto and we wanted, because we tend to be very welcoming of opponents.
56:08
Speaker 3: We have a way.
56:09
Speaker 3: Side does come here and Mexico does occupy the middle of we covered stands with it with the drum and thing and the big flag and the middle half line.
56:20
Speaker 3: I sure if them go and play in the state, them can't go and do that.
56:23
Speaker 3: Well, they kind of own the states.
56:24
Speaker 3: But in real rivalries like what we see in miami when I think it was argentina and colombia was the two sides playing and a little small riot outside the stadium they can't go to certain countries and do that.
56:36
Speaker 3: We're very welcoming of foreigners here.
56:38
Speaker 3: But boy, they didn't like Dennis Mitchell.
56:41
Speaker 3: Because Dennis Mitchell come and beat the chess and ball in and jump, that's before the race.
56:44
Speaker 3: People take a turn on him.
56:46
Speaker 3: They didn't like that at all.
56:48
Speaker 3: We tend to see arrogance as offensive in sports, but I like it.
56:52
Speaker 3: I like Shaqiri, see arrogance as offensive in sports, but I like it.
56:56
Speaker 3: I like shikari and I'm surprised that I ain't hear nothing from shikari yet.
56:58
Speaker 3: But I'm well glad a caribbean woman hold the title because we see sharika jackson come out, elaine thompson, hera, come out, shellyanne fraser, price, come out.
57:05
Speaker 3: I don't like the circumstances under which she come out as well, because they're saying that she obviously would not stay in the olympic village.
57:13
Speaker 3: Most of the biggest stars in the Olympics Michael Phelps wasn't in the Olympic Village, usain Bolt wasn't there, so how Shelly Ann Fraser would be in the Olympic Village?
57:19
Speaker 3: You're bigger than that.
57:20
Speaker 3: She'd probably have a hotel with her team and things there.
57:22
Speaker 3: And then they come and Sha'Carri wasn't there as well, and apparently when they reached the gate that they passed through the day before for their warm-ups, the day before for their warm-ups, they tell them no, they had a walk-around.
57:32
Speaker 3: Same thing with the French they don't care attitude, they don't care about the games.
57:40
Speaker 3: So I didn't realize when the story first came out that it's an hour they had to walk for to get to the warm-up track and I suppose that Shelly and Fraser level of accomplishment, her age, the injury risk and so on.
57:50
Speaker 3: If she can't warm up properly for a race, then the right thing to do would be to probably pull out.
57:57
Speaker 3: And I ain't giving shikari no excuse, because I like shikari, but I want to see the best athletes perform under the best conditions.
58:02
Speaker 3: That's what the olympics promises us.
58:04
Speaker 3: So if you make shikari walk an hour and then she run the race, I don't think that.
58:10
Speaker 3: I don't think that right, I don't think that fair at all and I'm sorry I ain't hearing from a man I like when I like when I'm out big.
58:16
Speaker 3: I find win or lose you should be bad.
58:18
Speaker 3: But salute, salute to Julian Alford, first medal for St Lucia, and that medal is gold.
58:24
Speaker 3: Salute, salute to.
58:25
Speaker 3: I mean, that was somehow I find I always miss the main performances in the Olympics.
58:33
Speaker 3: I didn't see when Keshawn threw the thing live.
58:35
Speaker 3: I think it was in a Uber let me say Uber, no, a ride.
58:39
Speaker 3: She was going down the road by my father and the driver told me hey boy, you see when I go, I didn't even know that.
58:44
Speaker 3: I didn't even know that Keshawn had won.
58:48
Speaker 3: I think all of us were surprised and the first time you hear cash on name was when you get a gold medal, but it is.
58:53
Speaker 3: It's such a great feeling is bringing to our country when somebody win that, especially because we have few.
58:59
Speaker 3: Well, we only have two gold medals.
59:01
Speaker 3: So, oh, I think we have.
59:03
Speaker 3: We have more than two now because our olympic uh relay team would have gotten a gold.
59:08
Speaker 3: I think we get bump up to a goal at some point in time if I have that right.
59:11
Speaker 3: Right, but salute to the elephant as well, from dominica.
59:16
Speaker 3: Dominica, I, I know how to say it, right, but I'm so frightened.
59:19
Speaker 3: I'm so frightened.
59:20
Speaker 3: She probably was in the place the other day, dominica, because they like to say dominica as if it's in dominican republic, right, so she put them in the place and let them know where dominica is and how many people it's out there and all them kind of things.
59:31
Speaker 3: And he's the home of a gold medal winner.
59:33
Speaker 3: I like that.
59:33
Speaker 3: So I believe they were the first medal as well, and that first medal was gold for the triple jump, and at the time of recording this we still have Jareem in the mix.
59:42
Speaker 3: I thought that Jareem used to run 200 and 400.
59:45
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure about that, but it seems as though he only did 400 and he had advanced from the first round when I last saw it.
59:53
Speaker 3: So he looking like he have some chance to meddle and thing, but we will look at it.
59:56
Speaker 3: Salute to my boy.
59:58
Speaker 3: What a Yankee name.
59:59
Speaker 3: What a Yankee name who win the 100?
1:00:03
Speaker 3: Noah Lyles.
1:00:05
Speaker 3: Salute to Noah Lyles.
1:00:06
Speaker 3: Salute to him Taking on the 100.
1:00:10
Speaker 3: It's his first time in 20 years A man, a US male, win the 100 meters.
1:00:16
Speaker 3: I find that Jamaica dominate the sport of sprinting in a lot of ways over the last couple of decades.
1:00:24
Speaker 3: But when you look at it right on the male side, it was really Usain.
1:00:29
Speaker 3: You know Usain really step up big and dominate.
1:00:32
Speaker 3: But at least for the Olympics, which is the main time I'm watching, track and field will look like if the other male jamaican athletes getting up there, so you'll see.
1:00:41
Speaker 3: And then still are relays and them kind of thing to run, them thing always exciting to look at, right.
1:00:45
Speaker 3: So we keeping my eye on the olympics and we'll see what it is.
1:00:49
Speaker 3: One more thing on the olympics before moving on beyond the oopman ceremony know they had to bring the LGBTQ plus.
1:00:59
Speaker 3: It's at the forefront again because while they went and said the boxing woman is a man, why are they there?
1:01:05
Speaker 3: A man beating woman, a man to beat a woman and all this kind of thing.
1:01:11
Speaker 3: I remember this very similar.
1:01:12
Speaker 3: It's like a reverse race, you know what I mean.
1:01:16
Speaker 3: Because they wanted to say simenia is a man and simenia running against woman.
1:01:19
Speaker 3: You all remember oscar pistoria.
1:01:22
Speaker 3: So that was another controversial thing with the um, the olympics.
1:01:26
Speaker 3: To where he had he was, he had no legs, whatever better way to say that.
1:01:31
Speaker 3: Right, but I can't remember it.
1:01:32
Speaker 3: No, he don't have any legs.
1:01:33
Speaker 3: Are you supposed to say amputee, double amputee?
1:01:35
Speaker 3: Right, he's a double amputee.
1:01:37
Speaker 3: And he had a.
1:01:38
Speaker 3: He had a prosthetic sprinting I should probably um find all the pc ways to say this before I talk about this but he had some springs, you know, I mean the springs.
1:01:49
Speaker 3: He had some springs on him and it was vexed.
1:01:52
Speaker 3: It was vexed because it was, I mean, the artificial against the real people with legs and thing.
1:01:56
Speaker 3: I'm making a butcher in this topic, but yeah, that was another controversy in the same olympics as so many as I remember that they say so many is a man.
1:02:05
Speaker 3: It was a similar situation with um, with this boxer where it's a xy chromosome thing or I think so many a situation was just a higher than normal level of testosterone.
1:02:18
Speaker 3: And I think to myself, when you're, when you're, when you're taking all kinds of things to take to run fast, you must, I mean, I would think, I would think most athletes in the Olympics have two higher level of testosterone.
1:02:30
Speaker 3: That's the other thing for me.
1:02:31
Speaker 3: You know, if I was in charge of these things, too high a level of testosterone, that's the other thing for me.
1:02:34
Speaker 3: You know, if I was in charge of these things, I wouldn't ban drugs.
1:02:38
Speaker 3: I go and take anything you like.
1:02:39
Speaker 3: I open a balco.
1:02:39
Speaker 3: Anybody take anything they want to take.
1:02:41
Speaker 3: I want to see the 100-meter finish in one second.
1:02:43
Speaker 3: Guys.
1:02:44
Speaker 3: I hope I could see that before I leave this here.
1:02:46
Speaker 3: Let me see it go from nine seconds to long for a race.
1:02:49
Speaker 3: I want to see somebody throw the javelin out of the stadium.
1:02:52
Speaker 3: I want to see you have to throw from one stadium to the next stadium.
1:02:56
Speaker 3: People take your drugs and let me see greatness.
1:02:59
Speaker 3: But it's the same thing.
1:03:01
Speaker 3: It's the same thing with that issue with the woman.
1:03:04
Speaker 3: It turns out that she was born a woman and it's a hormonal issue that have X and Y chromosomes and of course people continue to take a hard stance against it.
1:03:15
Speaker 3: In other words, it's like, no matter what was said, is seen as a man going in there to beat up a woman.
1:03:24
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, and I think to myself your brother beating your wife.
1:03:26
Speaker 3: You don't study that.
1:03:27
Speaker 3: You study how your cousin is hit, how your neighbor only coming out in shades.
1:03:33
Speaker 3: You know, I mean your hand and all my girls swift I'm talking to the woman out there right, all your hands, swift.
1:03:40
Speaker 3: So I don't know what to this thing until they, until they eventually showed that, uh, both, she was born a woman and, and well, I think what work in her favor too is that she lost some good match to natural born or at least feminine looking woman, if that's a thing in this day and age, you know I mean.
1:03:57
Speaker 3: So people, people back off for the issue once that, once that had happened when I was proven to origin from the variety here, right, yeah, magazine or paper or whatever it is, olympic committee addresses women's boxing controversy.
1:04:09
Speaker 3: It is not a transgender case.
1:04:10
Speaker 3: So of course, they use everybody who was arguing that a man shouldn't change his gender to go and fight a woman To say again, we's bigots and we's homophobes and so on.
1:04:20
Speaker 3: But I don't think that transgender men should be allowed in no woman's sport.
1:04:25
Speaker 3: Categorically, I don't see how it could be allowed.
1:04:29
Speaker 3: If you're mistaken or you didn't have all the information on this, the root point that everybody was trying to make remains the same, my folks.
1:04:35
Speaker 3: It remains the same, my wokes.
1:04:37
Speaker 3: The International Olympic Committee has spoken out following one of the biggest controversies of the Paris Games so far.
1:04:43
Speaker 3: One of that sparked widespread debate Earlier this week, a row erupted about the inclusion of two boxers which had previously failed a gender eligibility test at a separate competition.
1:04:53
Speaker 3: Boxers which had previously failed a gender eligibility test at a separate competition emin khalif of algeria and lin yu ting of taiwan had been disqualified from the 2023 women's world championships, with the international boxing association president umar kremlev claiming that dna tests had proved they had xy chromosomes, and then they were excluded.
1:05:08
Speaker 3: In paris, italian boxer angela carina abandoned her boat bout against Khalif in 46 seconds, so she preferred to stop for health and she'd never felt a punch like this.
1:05:18
Speaker 3: To me, right when I see the highlight, it looks like she get one good punch and she decides that she's done with that.
1:05:24
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
1:05:28
Speaker 3: And, of course, several of the activists, protagonists and so on.
1:05:35
Speaker 3: They show up.
1:05:35
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a French Olympic, so I don't expect the controversy soon escalated when high-profile figures stepped into the ring, with JK Rowling posting a picture from the fight on Twitter saying could any picture sum up our new men's rights movement better?
1:05:51
Speaker 3: She's against the idea of transgender at least transgender rights to be participative or to be called women right.
1:05:59
Speaker 3: That's the core of JK Rowling's argument ever since right.
1:06:02
Speaker 3: She added that it showed the smirk of a male who knows he's protected by a misogynist sporting establishment enjoying the distress of a woman he just punched in the head and whose life's ambition he just shattered.
1:06:11
Speaker 3: Stress of a woman he just punched in the head and whose life's ambition he just shattered.
1:06:15
Speaker 3: Elon Musk, meanwhile, shared a post from swimwear Riley Gaines Sorry, swimwear Riley Gaines that claimed men don't belong in women's sports.
1:06:24
Speaker 3: The ex-co-owner co-signed the message, writing absolutely.
1:06:29
Speaker 3: So.
1:06:31
Speaker 3: That went on for a little while, but the dust settled on that.
1:06:34
Speaker 3: I mean, soon enough we could be running marathon and the olympics will be behind us and we'll forget this and we will be focused on who's in the next olympics and move on from, uh, all the controversy that is surrounded around this.
1:06:48
Speaker 3: This french olympics, uh, uh.
1:06:51
Speaker 3: Where will 2028 be?
1:06:54
Speaker 3: 2028 is in los angeles.
1:06:57
Speaker 3: So we back to the states.
1:06:58
Speaker 3: I hope they figure out how to host large-scale events by then, right, because clearly that that colombia and argentina thing was a mess and the uruguay against colombia game before that was a mess in copa america, and then for those of our will, cup to host next year or year after.
1:07:12
Speaker 3: I just hope that they get their act together, but assuming that by the time they go back to the States they're going to have a normal if that's actually a little bit more normal and organized and sensitive Olympics with less controversy.
1:07:31
Speaker 3: But once you have the works around around the wokes folks, you tend to find that you're going to have issues like these, everybody.
1:07:37
Speaker 3: So you have to be on one side of the issue and you have to take as strong a stance as possible and anybody who take a stance against you, you have to embarrass them and show that they are bigots and so on.
1:07:50
Speaker 3: That's the way of social media arguments and so on.
1:07:51
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
1:07:52
Speaker 3: It's a way of social media arguments and so on.
1:07:53
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
1:07:54
Speaker 3: It's a different time.
1:07:55
Speaker 3: But just in case you want to see, in case you like that, if you want to see a transgender boxer.
1:08:01
Speaker 3: Google Patricio Manuel, right, patricio Manuel, if you want to see transgender boxer.
1:08:06
Speaker 3: Just in case, patricio nickname is Cacahuete, cacahuete, cacahuete.
1:08:15
Speaker 3: You go and Google that, right?
1:08:18
Speaker 3: Where are we going on to from Olympics?
1:08:19
Speaker 3: Where are we going on to Everything I say?
1:08:20
Speaker 3: I say Everything I need to say about the Olympics here.
1:08:22
Speaker 3: I need to make sure I'm doing this the right way.
1:08:24
Speaker 3: Now Can I stay on LBGTU's shoes and celebrate the pride parade that I have mentioned that while I was gone, I wasn't here.
1:08:32
Speaker 3: If the pride parade that happened in Trinidad while I was growing up wasn't here, if I was here I would have been front and center.
1:08:37
Speaker 3: Front and center Winding on man Color.
1:08:38
Speaker 3: I was here.
1:08:39
Speaker 3: Pride TT director.
1:08:40
Speaker 3: Advocates for the right to be.
1:08:42
Speaker 3: I say so, let people be.
1:08:43
Speaker 3: This is by Jesse Ramdale.
1:08:48
Speaker 3: Every year it had this.
1:08:49
Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about this in the segment.
1:08:51
Speaker 3: Every year it had this.
1:08:52
Speaker 3: So prep Color, music and solidarity won this play yesterday as scores gathered to participate in the annual Pride parade.
1:09:00
Speaker 3: This year, the parade took place along Maraval Road, port of Spain, and so is Maraval Road only to this night, and so are people raising rainbow flags and dressed in rainbow attire, in an almost carnival-like atmosphere, as with everything else in Trinidad, in an almost carnival-like atmosphere.
1:09:14
Speaker 3: That's what everything else in Trinidad, aside from the parade.
1:09:17
Speaker 3: There was also a pride market.
1:09:18
Speaker 3: I miss out on the pride market.
1:09:20
Speaker 3: All you can tell me is that nobody in Guadalquivir got me nothing nice to me in the pride market, nothing Under the theme.
1:09:25
Speaker 3: The right to director of Pride City, tracy Shepard.
1:09:28
Speaker 3: How, who's Shepard mommy who we Tracy?
1:09:34
Speaker 3: You can.
1:09:34
Speaker 3: Who shepherd mommy who we Tracy?
1:09:41
Speaker 3: Let me stick to the script here.
1:09:42
Speaker 3: Tracy shepherd advocated for acceptance of self-advocacy.
1:09:45
Speaker 3: So shepherd highlighted the struggles and triumphs of the LBGTQ IA plus community.
1:09:50
Speaker 3: Shepherd also recognize and praise all stakeholders for ensuring events throughout the month were a success.
1:09:58
Speaker 3: Salute you, shepherd.
1:10:00
Speaker 3: Any shepherd is a good shepherd, no pun intended.
1:10:05
Speaker 3: Any shepherd is a good shepherd.
1:10:07
Speaker 3: So salute and congratulations to everybody who take place in any pride parade.
1:10:11
Speaker 3: So, having said all that, are you ready to get into some?
1:10:14
Speaker 3: Said all that already to get into some already to get into some issues about cotton.
1:10:37
Speaker 1: And if my life could rewind.
1:10:39
Speaker 1: Without money, no gold can buy a company.
1:10:41
Speaker 1: No, without money, you alone can bless your love to me.
1:10:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, without money, no gold can buy a company.
1:10:50
Speaker 1: No, without money, you alone, we go to buy cornflakes.
1:10:56
Speaker 1: So when we do fly free tax, thank you.
1:10:59
Speaker 1: No, without money, you alone can't flesh your love to me.
1:11:02
Speaker 1: And if my life could rewind, you would be dead a year and a half, the three times.
1:12:00
Speaker 3: And if my life could rewind.
1:12:02
Speaker 1: And if my life could rewind Without money, I'd die by your company.
1:12:08
Speaker 1: Yo.
1:12:09
Speaker 3: When you say without money, that song is dedicated to a woman.
1:12:12
Speaker 3: My name is Sidem Ozturk.
1:12:13
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
1:12:14
Speaker 3: If you don't see any videos by now, cartel is free, right?
1:12:17
Speaker 3: Should I clap that?
1:12:18
Speaker 3: I don't know.
1:12:18
Speaker 3: I'm too mine.
1:12:20
Speaker 3: I need help now.
1:12:21
Speaker 3: I need help.
1:12:21
Speaker 3: I'm a country, because I documented here saying I can't wait for Cartel to free.
1:12:26
Speaker 3: I also documented as saying I hear one person on youtube saying that cattle involving several like over 30 murders, involved in like giving orders for hunting as as ahead of the glance man clan or whatever they say.
1:12:48
Speaker 3: It is a gang or whatever.
1:12:50
Speaker 3: And I mean when you look up at hits, I mean at 30 murders, you might still have 20 more that you can have.
1:12:55
Speaker 3: I mean it's still getting 284.
1:12:57
Speaker 3: But I started to.
1:12:58
Speaker 3: I said I'm feeling kind of bad.
1:13:00
Speaker 3: I feel let me start by saying this right and so the most joke, if you don't know, is cartel's wife.
1:13:05
Speaker 3: You might just see the videos when cartel get released.
1:13:08
Speaker 3: And the most famous statement now at this kind of influencing man of over people, the most famous statement now if you're not following is kiss me, baby.
1:13:15
Speaker 3: Chris gale didn't get in trouble for something like that too well, chris will see chris gale said don't blush baby.
1:13:23
Speaker 3: And he get in trouble.
1:13:24
Speaker 3: Cartel say kiss me baby.
1:13:26
Speaker 3: And it's a new hashtag because this is cartel engaged married wife or I don't know what you call it, but is he good?
1:13:34
Speaker 3: And she was there waiting for him outside of jail.
1:13:37
Speaker 3: She moved from where she come from.
1:13:38
Speaker 3: I think it's is, it is it is it germany or turkey or something like that?
1:13:42
Speaker 3: And she she's now living in jamaica, or has been living in jamaica and carrying on a relationship for several years with cartel, without money or british citizens, sorry, british citizens who live in and work in jamaica now.
1:13:59
Speaker 3: And she got engaged to cartel in the summer of 2022 during her authorized prison visit, studied psychology and was employed in london as a social worker helping vulnerable adults and trend.
1:14:10
Speaker 3: And I want to commend her because women know how to play the long game, which is short-sighted, as men, you know, we don't know.
1:14:16
Speaker 3: We don't know how to take with time.
1:14:17
Speaker 3: You know I mean and letting kusume and let ripen thing, but she's all right now.
1:14:22
Speaker 3: You know I mean and cartel, but anyway, cartel was released last week I think it's the man the eve of emancipation, the last day in july, just before, just before the first of august, widely celebrated global emancipation day, and cartel was home.
1:14:40
Speaker 3: After all these years of free world boss and all this kind of thing, the world boss is home.
1:14:45
Speaker 3: For those who don't know, I want to get a little backstory as to why cartel home.
1:14:49
Speaker 3: Right, and I saw salute, salute my guy, valdez, I believe, who was saying and rightfully so that valdez make a post the other day, and it reached me too where he said the sad thing is that there's nobody who don't believe cartel didn't kill them people.
1:15:04
Speaker 3: Now I'll tell you this outright I believe cartel was very much involved in the murder of these people.
1:15:12
Speaker 3: I think the evidence itself is overwhelming To say that Cartel was in fact involved in this, in this killing a lizard was what he was accused of, right?
1:15:25
Speaker 3: So some examples they have voice notes with Cartel.
1:15:29
Speaker 3: I remember this coming out donkey years ago, with Cartel saying they will never find the body it cartel saying they could never find the body.
1:15:34
Speaker 3: It's impossible, they'll never find the.
1:15:35
Speaker 3: But I'm not a fact.
1:15:36
Speaker 3: They have video of cartel showing a man how to swing a pig like yeah, pickaxe, and the man bloody.
1:15:41
Speaker 3: It was bad back then and this was the reason why most people felt like cartel would never come out of jail.
1:15:47
Speaker 3: I want to go on record as saying as well, or reiterating, that I don't believe in jail.
1:15:51
Speaker 3: I don't know what is the solution to not put people in jail if they do wrong.
1:15:56
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying I don't believe in punishment, but I don't like the idea of locking a human being in a cage.
1:16:01
Speaker 3: I was having enough trouble locking an animal in a cage versus a human being.
1:16:04
Speaker 3: That can't be it right.
1:16:05
Speaker 3: That will never be rehabilitative.
1:16:07
Speaker 3: But having said that, I feel like they should put back cartel.
1:16:13
Speaker 3: You, I feel like they should put back cartel.
1:16:16
Speaker 3: You know, I mean a little part of my feel like it should.
1:16:17
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is exactly to morph it if it's the kiss me baby and that woman, that woman take graves disease like she take cyclam and thyroid for herself, like she swallow heat thyroid.
1:16:28
Speaker 3: She gonna get now and nothing looking good.
1:16:31
Speaker 3: Because again, I hope I wish him the best health.
1:16:34
Speaker 3: He's unhealthy.
1:16:35
Speaker 3: I know you say he had graves disease and several other complications and you know jail in nice and jail in the caribbean was so I'm sure we will see him start recovering and looking more like himself.
1:16:46
Speaker 3: I said the thing they said he had to do surgery to remove the thyroid.
1:16:49
Speaker 3: They might have to take it from the girl now because she definitely took it when he come out of jail.
1:16:54
Speaker 3: But I might be projecting a little bit here, but I don't.
1:16:59
Speaker 3: I don't like the way when cartel come out, his instagram presence and them kind of thing.
1:17:04
Speaker 3: And I granted that it's my projecting right, because maybe it's me putting myself in that situation and seeing how I would behave and what I would show as gratitude and remorse and all those things and like a second chance at life and how I would behave.
1:17:20
Speaker 3: And that's unfair to put that on somebody else.
1:17:22
Speaker 3: Right, because everybody will process things different, show their gratitude different, behave differently.
1:17:28
Speaker 3: It's not that my behavior is the right behavior in that situation, but boy, I don.
1:17:32
Speaker 3: I don't like the way they're looking that it didn't looking good because the the evidence was overwhelming.
1:17:39
Speaker 3: So you might ask yourself, like, how is vibes cartel free if they have overwhelming evidence of murder?
1:17:43
Speaker 3: No, habeas corpus, according to the lawyers.
1:17:46
Speaker 3: Right, because, as as he rightly predicted in his voice, no, they can't find the body.
1:17:50
Speaker 3: They accused that they pay off a funeral home to burn the body and things and they put cut it up in small pieces.
1:17:56
Speaker 3: Sorry to be morbid, but that is what happened, right, and with all the hits and all the thing and all the party and all the memories are cut, telling me in particular, come and make joke and thing.
1:18:05
Speaker 3: But we still have to remember that this is somebody son and somebody family member who's still not accounted for.
1:18:12
Speaker 3: Right, and cartel was a convicted, a murder for the person.
1:18:16
Speaker 3: And it's similar to some of my thoughts on this plumpy boy situation and the whole trinibad thing, right, where I want a little spare thought for when cartel get his hands on or get involved in trinibad music, right, it is designed for him and he's going to get involved in it.
1:18:35
Speaker 3: Mark my words cartel is going to collaborate with several of them, trinibad artists.
1:18:40
Speaker 3: He go right for them, them go right for he that is coming.
1:18:43
Speaker 3: So it's, it's similar to my thoughts on that.
1:18:48
Speaker 3: Well, even as I say, somebody is somebody, child and they're grieving for their family member and thing.
1:18:54
Speaker 3: When you see situations like those and people embroiled in them thing with that pickaxe thing, and we go take him out and we go them fellas and them who god bless the dead but might well be involved in things too.
1:19:05
Speaker 3: So I don't want to talk here like if cartel walked down the street and killed some innocent man, people involved in the, in the lives that I might never understand or be a part of.
1:19:14
Speaker 3: But this show that happened in Norway, he come out and it's celebratory and thing I just want to take you through.
1:19:22
Speaker 3: What happened in the trial right, obvious evidence pointing to Cartel being involved in the person being killed and some things that sound surreal to me.
1:19:32
Speaker 3: So, for instance, the phone was a main piece of evidence, including the voice notes that were sent back and forth, pictures and videos that were sent back and forth.
1:19:39
Speaker 3: When the police get the phone in custody, the police in Jamaica, the Jamaica Constabulary Force, use the phone to call people and call birds and send out videos with nudes and porn videos from human phone.
1:19:52
Speaker 3: They use the phone while it wasn't evident If that's not the most groupie.
1:19:57
Speaker 3: I don't know if to call that groupie and be naive or to call that deliberately thwarting a case and just take the veil off my eyes.
1:20:04
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
1:20:04
Speaker 3: That's police who must be watching the thing and say, well, all right, we're going to botch up this evidence, we're going to make some calls you go take so when the thing come up in court now the men say no, they know me, I in custody.
1:20:14
Speaker 3: Then how I could make that call.
1:20:15
Speaker 3: I could send that voice Not to send this picture in a serious country.
1:20:20
Speaker 3: That case have a problem from then on.
1:20:23
Speaker 3: But that wasn't bad enough.
1:20:24
Speaker 3: Case went on.
1:20:27
Speaker 3: At some point it was proven that a jury member had accepted a bribe and was offering bribes of $500,000 to the other jury members.
1:20:38
Speaker 3: That's our belly in this life.
1:20:39
Speaker 3: This is the problem we have.
1:20:41
Speaker 3: We don't have enough belly.
1:20:42
Speaker 3: Somebody who was maybe willing or not to accept that bribe Well, clearly not Come and tell.
1:20:51
Speaker 3: They say, hey, this man offered me $500,000 and that's half a guilty verdict.
1:20:55
Speaker 3: And whatever proven the all the powers that be prosecutor, judge, defense everybody say let the case continue.
1:21:03
Speaker 3: They just get rid of the one juror who offered the people to bribe and move forward, as if that would not say in the case, of course, fast forward to the privy council.
1:21:09
Speaker 3: And when it reached privy council, privy council, never look at the evidence in the case.
1:21:14
Speaker 3: They never look at it because they say regardless of where the evidence is, the first thing we have to look at is you are trying to understand.
1:21:20
Speaker 3: Well, what make you continue the case when you have a juror who tried to bribe other people.
1:21:25
Speaker 3: It's unclear as to whether or not the juror was trying to bribe people to say guilty or not guilty, that is unclear.
1:21:31
Speaker 3: But what is clear is that there's a juror who was compromised and he tried to compromise other jurors and only just move here and continue the case like if nothing didn't happen.
1:21:42
Speaker 3: So they said, hey, you have one or two choices here and then don't talk for the phone thing.
1:21:46
Speaker 3: The phone thing is, I see, because they make calls on the man phone, only texting people from the man phone.
1:21:50
Speaker 3: So I don't, I don't understand what we're discussing here.
1:21:53
Speaker 3: That would be pretty constant saying this I don't understand what we're discussing here.
1:21:56
Speaker 3: That's what the Privy Council is saying.
1:21:57
Speaker 3: They say I don't understand what they come here for, they're wasting the court time, jamaica, they're sanctioned.
1:22:01
Speaker 3: So they basically say, well, they have two options here.
1:22:02
Speaker 3: It's either have a retrial which starts here from scratch.
1:22:09
Speaker 3: You set him free, and the I think the obvious decision was to set him free.
1:22:17
Speaker 3: Because if you're watching from the beginning, right, uh, if you're watching from the beginning of the case, from the time cartel was arrested to the times he had to go to court.
1:22:28
Speaker 3: He the amount of resources and this was this was the.
1:22:33
Speaker 3: This was basically the state argument why they could not stop at that point in time, when the thing happened with jura, to have a mistrial or a retrial because it was costing the state too much resources.
1:22:48
Speaker 3: A high-profile criminal where every time you go to court a whole set of people crowed in the courtroom, called it current jailhouse, to say gaza forever, and then the free will boss and all them things are international incident.
1:22:59
Speaker 3: Every time you have a trial, globally known right.
1:23:01
Speaker 3: So they basically saying they can't go through that again.
1:23:05
Speaker 3: So when the privy council sent it back the other day and they say, hey, all they had to have a hearing to see whether to set him free or to redo the uh, redo the trial, I think it was obvious because to go back through that way you have all the state resources.
1:23:20
Speaker 3: I set up police and army and all them kind of thing.
1:23:23
Speaker 3: Every time you had to transport this man back and forth.
1:23:26
Speaker 3: It would be a spectacle.
1:23:27
Speaker 3: It would be even more of a spectacle if they decided on a retrial this time, because now that the privy council show the world that, hey, everything went wrong here and then only go now to say retrial.
1:23:39
Speaker 3: Then they go really say it have a conspiracy to get rid of the world, boss, right, everybody will say hey, what is this?
1:23:45
Speaker 3: And there would be an even louder, like the french level protest in the streets of jamaica if they had tried to restart that case.
1:23:51
Speaker 3: And then if you went to restart it, what evidence?
1:23:54
Speaker 3: He was using that same phone that had the issue, which means if it went to the highest court of appeal, to the bureau consular, again, it would get overthrown anyway.
1:24:02
Speaker 3: So we here and cartel free.
1:24:05
Speaker 3: But I'll say this right, I hear a couple videos going around the internet without, without, without mother crying about how cartels set up to kill lisa.
1:24:15
Speaker 3: And I find like again it is me projecting right and it's just not looking so as a parallel and it's a little bit hypocritical on my part because I was criticizing buju a lot, right, and I don't like maybe buju's not my favorite artist anyway, but I find Buju like to talk to people a kind of way, talk down to people like if he's this lord, like if he didn't try to make a cocaine deal.
1:24:39
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, and I can't take him.
1:24:41
Speaker 3: You know, I see you on Drink Champs.
1:24:43
Speaker 3: Now I'm going to definitely take in that episode right.
1:24:45
Speaker 3: So little Nori and DJ EFN on Drink Champs with Buju on Drink Champs this week and I find Buju this kind of high-righteous thing, as if he's a smart man trying to make a little deal and make a little money and them kind of things.
1:25:01
Speaker 3: What are we talking about here?
1:25:02
Speaker 3: I don't understand.
1:25:05
Speaker 3: But Buju I remember also having a very, very relatively low-profile re-entrance to Jamaica when he was deported and being extremely low, like at the time buju, and buju was looking good coming out of jail compared to how carter looking right and buju kind of, stay off of the social media, stay off of the.
1:25:25
Speaker 3: You know your matter of fact.
1:25:26
Speaker 3: You had to go and search, like what happened with buju and they had released a song and they find out that that was, um, that wasn't a new song, is a old recording.
1:25:34
Speaker 3: So would you went and work on him himself physically and get back your voice right and get back your look right and everything until he had the big show in jamaica, the big show in trinidad.
1:25:44
Speaker 3: He's still on that tour.
1:25:45
Speaker 3: I believe he just was in new york.
1:25:47
Speaker 3: Get back his visa and went new york and miami and all that and as much as I had bad talk that time, I felt like that would be a good approach for Carter.
1:25:56
Speaker 3: You get to come out.
1:25:58
Speaker 3: You get to come out on a technicality.
1:26:00
Speaker 3: I could say whatever I say, but you alone know what you do and what you was involved in.
1:26:04
Speaker 3: So when you come out like that and all this overwhelming evidence showing that you was involved in this thing, but you come out and it's white British words beating you outside and bottle of champagne, they can't will boss and and and kiss me baby, and your voice song in terrible.
1:26:19
Speaker 3: You're not looking good like you, you.
1:26:22
Speaker 3: I would think that the first thing to do is like take care of yourself, go and take care of your own health and then start focusing on this outside world.
1:26:28
Speaker 3: So, for instance, cartel was on tiktok live the other night with gil to explain to him that he's live and people there, and he's still talking about Gaza forever and Will Boss.
1:26:37
Speaker 3: Not that I shouldn't do any of that, but I feel like if again me projecting by saying if I was sent home from jail, whether I do the thing or not, my gratitude would have looked like.
1:26:49
Speaker 3: I just want to focus now on my family.
1:26:52
Speaker 3: I want to be with my wife and my children and my mother and my father and you know me and my brothers and sisters, everybody close to me, my closest friends there's the people who see in me at my worst while I fix myself up, build myself back, and then I could study my career and all them kind of things and gain it back on track and come presenting myself back to the world as as as who they remember me to be and who I am.
1:27:15
Speaker 3: And so even if that's the persona and all that is still is an act right, let's assume, is that I could get back to that, but it looking like not real life a little bit here.
1:27:25
Speaker 3: I hope I'm making sense of that.
1:27:26
Speaker 3: But so I was always saying, I kept saying that whenever cartel come out and wherever he performing at the, but I feeling like I feeling sad, I feeling kind of bad, I feeling kind of bad, I feeling kind of bad for the whole Cartel rhetoric.
1:27:40
Speaker 3: But I guess we will continue to monitor it and watch it on Again, just like how people cancel R Kelly and now they canceled Didion thing.
1:27:49
Speaker 3: As much as I feeling sad about Cartel, I'm not sure that I could throw away the baby with the bathwater, kind of thing.
1:27:58
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
1:27:58
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that I could do that.
1:28:00
Speaker 3: I mean the hits is the hits.
1:28:01
Speaker 3: The songs is the songs.
1:28:02
Speaker 3: The period in my life when I was listening to Cattle Heavy is still the period, so I don't know if I could.
1:28:08
Speaker 3: You know the whole cancel thing, not when you sings songs like this.
1:28:11
Speaker 1: Love them, tend to touch them, different girl every day.
1:28:38
Speaker 5: Love them, tend to touch them.
1:28:40
Speaker 5: They have girl everywhere.
1:28:43
Speaker 5: But you are me, baby Shawty.
1:28:46
Speaker 5: Catch me last night With a fat drunk girl on standpipe and she sing her for me with a knife, me over up and say that's alright, you know you are the love of my life.
1:28:56
Speaker 5: No worry, cause you are my wife, me have a new girl.
1:28:59
Speaker 5: Every night she come out and ask me why Me never mean to.
1:29:05
Speaker 1: You have to believe me, another girl Gonna have a baby.
1:29:10
Speaker 1: You know you are my everything Me.
1:29:13
Speaker 1: No need another.
1:29:13
Speaker 1: But I have a girl.
1:29:14
Speaker 1: You know you want me, everything me.
1:29:15
Speaker 1: No need another.
1:29:16
Speaker 1: But I'm a girl.
1:29:16
Speaker 1: I run down because I use what you expect me to do.
1:29:20
Speaker 5: Love them tend to touch them different girl every day.
1:29:26
Speaker 5: Love them, tend to touch them.
1:29:27
Speaker 5: They have your life everywhere.
1:29:30
Speaker 5: But you are my baby, yeah.
1:29:36
Speaker 5: Yeah, she force you to a fear.
1:29:37
Speaker 5: Bring that I may be a mother of Brooklyn.
1:29:40
Speaker 5: She tell me, say, if me get her next you, she a chuck it on the river.
1:29:44
Speaker 5: She can't swim.
1:29:45
Speaker 5: No brother will be suiciding, see them.
1:29:47
Speaker 5: Yes, let me tell you a thing me sweet.
1:29:49
Speaker 5: I love you till time end, but I wish I pregnant again.
1:29:53
Speaker 5: Me never mean to, you have to believe me.
1:29:58
Speaker 1: And I'll do it.
1:29:58
Speaker 1: Got to have a baby.
1:30:00
Speaker 1: You know you buy me everything, me no need another, but I'm a girl.
1:30:06
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm so youth, what you expect me to do Love them.
1:30:12
Speaker 5: And I'll touch them Different girl every day.
1:30:15
Speaker 5: Love them tender, touch them.
1:30:17
Speaker 3: They have it all everywhere, but you are me baby yeah, better pretend a good man sing this song right Than just new lyrics and then just pretend a good person singing it.
1:30:39
Speaker 3: I don't know.
1:30:41
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's hearing the mother crying about it.
1:30:43
Speaker 3: I changed my mind's life and talking about that to us.
1:30:45
Speaker 3: So again this situation with Plumpy Boss.
1:30:48
Speaker 3: If you're not following that, plumpy Boss is one of these well-revered young Trinibad Zess artists.
1:30:55
Speaker 3: What isvered young trinibad zess artists?
1:30:56
Speaker 3: What he's called trinibad, not zess, right, trinibad.
1:30:57
Speaker 3: But they're singing heavy music with heavy misogyny and violence and so on.
1:31:05
Speaker 3: But again, as somebody who would have grew up liking cartel bounty killer, beanie man bujo, I I hypocritical of me to say them you shouldn't listen to what they're listening to.
1:31:13
Speaker 3: And he's a bad artist too.
1:31:14
Speaker 3: And the sister and the sister salute to dana pomo into some of plumpy boy songs and I realize that some of them I know and like already.
1:31:20
Speaker 3: But it heavy, it heavy, it heavy, violent.
1:31:22
Speaker 3: And when you watch the comments on it too, you could see where some of these youths in triniband as much as I always defend the artist's expression is, is is clear or it is evident let me say that a lot of them going down the wrong road.
1:31:37
Speaker 3: They're not just singing their music.
1:31:43
Speaker 3: They're aligning themselves with people of that life.
1:31:45
Speaker 3: That is not uncommon.
1:31:47
Speaker 3: When you look at from Biggie Smalls to Jay-Z, to the smallest, who else you want to call Gucci man and Jay-Z to the smallest, who else do you want to call Gucci Mane?
1:32:00
Speaker 3: And Jay-Z would have been in the South.
1:32:02
Speaker 3: Master P and them baby and Lil Wayne and everything that come down from Drake to Nicki Minaj.
1:32:04
Speaker 3: It's not uncommon for the biggest artists in the world to be aligned with people from the underworld right, because underworld money, this flow little easier and a little freer to get the image that they need and the recording budgets that they need and the things to do with video and the kind of promotion and they fly.
1:32:25
Speaker 3: Private Drug money has gone a long way.
1:32:27
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
1:32:28
Speaker 3: It's not uncommon.
1:32:30
Speaker 3: It's not uncommon Any big artist you could put, and that's not a black thing, that's not a.
1:32:34
Speaker 3: It's not uncommon Any big artist you could put, and that is not a black thing, that is not a hip-hop thing.
1:32:36
Speaker 3: You go back and look at the mafia involvement in the careers of people like what would frank sinatra and um, dean martin and all of them, the, the, the underworld involvement in popular and mainstream music it is.
1:32:53
Speaker 3: It is global.
1:32:54
Speaker 3: That is not uncommon, that's not a trinidad problem, right.
1:32:57
Speaker 3: So I don't want us to.
1:32:58
Speaker 3: I find me, you know, we isolate these youths and we say, uh, you know, I mean, these fellas are never involved in drug thing.
1:33:05
Speaker 3: That.
1:33:06
Speaker 3: Go and look at sinatra and the mob, look at, understand some of the meanings behind some of the things sinatra was singing to, you know, I mean, and the vegas residencies and the people who disappear in the desert.
1:33:16
Speaker 3: This is not uncommon, this is, this is globally the case, right?
1:33:20
Speaker 3: So you feel for them from that extent because, again, it's like the same thing I say in the beginning of the episode, where, if you have children who you could pick up and show a different life and show possibility.
1:33:32
Speaker 3: So a fellow from St James named Alvon right, always used to talk about options.
1:33:38
Speaker 3: He was looking at people in St James who some going down the right road and developing themselves and doing well and some choosing a different type of life as their route to success, and he always used to talk about you know, youths need you, they need more options.
1:33:54
Speaker 3: If they have more options, more of them could get through and that type of thing which I understood what he meant when he was talking about that.
1:34:00
Speaker 3: Because if, if we could just open up your eyes to the options, it's not all the options not there and I don't like to hear people talk about all of we are the same 24 hours.
1:34:08
Speaker 3: All of us don't have the same 24 hours.
1:34:09
Speaker 3: All of us don't have the same options.
1:34:11
Speaker 3: All of us don't have the same choices.
1:34:12
Speaker 3: It is different worlds you're talking about and a lot of us if they put us in this world and they close off our eyes to the travel and the education and all these things that we would see as almost default.
1:34:24
Speaker 3: I always remember being in tranquil.
1:34:26
Speaker 3: I do o levels in fatima and I do a levels in tranquil.
1:34:30
Speaker 3: I repeat every exam.
1:34:31
Speaker 3: I do too.
1:34:31
Speaker 3: I had to repeat cxc.
1:34:32
Speaker 3: I had four passes.
1:34:33
Speaker 3: When I do the first time, I had to repeat and I get back at two passes.
1:34:36
Speaker 3: Now I couldn't get in fatima with them passes.
1:34:38
Speaker 3: I had to go tranquil to do a levels.
1:34:40
Speaker 3: When I do a levels, I pass two or three, four subject.
1:34:42
Speaker 3: I had to repeat, kind of like work, and repeat by elders and take it.
1:34:45
Speaker 3: I take, I take the long route, I take the scenic route, uh, but I always remember a partner of mine bouncing up recently, so my guy, sheldon cummins.
1:34:56
Speaker 3: I remember being in tranquil and when I was in a levels it was clear to me that I was going on to tertiary education.
1:35:03
Speaker 3: You see, my mother and my father then pong that in my head so much like I believe I could do that.
1:35:07
Speaker 3: I could tell you that without them saying that all the time I would have much rather be on the block and liming.
1:35:12
Speaker 3: I was never, no, I was never gonna get involved in drugs and bad and I was a little too cold for them.
1:35:17
Speaker 3: Things right, probably they are bringing too.
1:35:18
Speaker 3: But um, I could have, I could have just lime, you know.
1:35:22
Speaker 3: I mean I could have just lime and lazy it out and look for little menial jobs and stay home for the rest of my life kind of thing lived by your parents.
1:35:28
Speaker 3: I would be there, I could do with some of that.
1:35:30
Speaker 3: Now, you know, I mean this whole moving process, I could do with some live by your parents right now.
1:35:35
Speaker 3: But um, I always remember talking to sheldon who when I went to fat tranquil and I start you know you're competing in now and I had a little thing with my I come from Fatima and things were bright.
1:35:48
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
1:35:49
Speaker 3: The Pumbaa and Apula people know what they're doing Because in Fatima I would be very, very average, but in Tranquil I'm outstanding.
1:35:57
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
1:35:58
Speaker 3: I'm doing good and this is the first time I'm going to school with girls too, so I in to study and do well.
1:36:16
Speaker 3: So I remember talking to sheldon and as like matter of fact, like just regular conversation, to say well, all right, well, when we go ue and them thing, when we go ue or we go and study, and he's like you going ue after here, and I I was like no, you're not.
1:36:26
Speaker 3: I never thought of somebody who was not going on to tuition.
1:36:30
Speaker 3: I just did not think of that at all In our environment.
1:36:32
Speaker 3: In Fatima the regular conversation was whether you're going abroad or you're going to study here.
1:36:37
Speaker 3: It was never.
1:36:38
Speaker 3: If you're going to study at all, never.
1:36:41
Speaker 3: And I remember in my competing to do well in class and all them things, sheldon was bright.
1:36:45
Speaker 3: Sheldon was bright, sheldon, so much brighter than me that when I start studying with him and going through thing and in classes with him, you know, I kind of wondering like how this man passed for tranquil he'd have 15 and fatima.
1:36:56
Speaker 3: He'd be doing well in fatima, among other fatima men who was bright.
1:36:59
Speaker 3: He'd be up there with the bright fellows.
1:37:01
Speaker 3: But it comes down to this we don't have the same opportunities and we don't have the same 24 hours.
1:37:06
Speaker 3: It's not the same when your environment is different.
1:37:09
Speaker 3: It's a function of that environment.
1:37:12
Speaker 3: So a lot of us, if they throw us into the upbringing that Plumpy Boss had, we might be worse off than them.
1:37:20
Speaker 3: We might be doing worse things than these fellows.
1:37:22
Speaker 3: So I tend not to want to look down on them.
1:37:24
Speaker 3: My thought is to try to understand it.
1:37:27
Speaker 3: So it's a pity that they can't separate the badness music from the actual badness.
1:37:33
Speaker 3: But that's not uncommon and unfortunately he went to do a show in saint martin and you know rumors have it that they have a hundred thousand dollar bounty on his head.
1:37:42
Speaker 3: Somebody wants to kill him and it's the same thing they're saying about prince swanee, where he's a marked man, right.
1:37:47
Speaker 3: So I read in from the shade room caribbean, that's the show.
1:37:51
Speaker 3: Credible.
1:37:51
Speaker 3: My sources is going downhill as we go into this episode, but a us 100 000 bounty was placed on the head of trinidad dancehall artist emmanuel, aka plumpy boss, who was shot in St Martin a week ago.
1:38:06
Speaker 3: Nice, nice place like St Martin.
1:38:09
Speaker 3: So let's salute him.
1:38:09
Speaker 3: A guy, salute him.
1:38:11
Speaker 3: A guy, nicky, who always tells me St Martin is one of the best vacations you could have.
1:38:15
Speaker 3: You could go on that side, go on the front side of a nice little thing.
1:38:18
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
1:38:18
Speaker 3: He always talks about how nice St Martin be, just nice, nice St Martin.
1:38:22
Speaker 3: Me and him know them have crime and them have six and seven and nine over there, but I guess 100,000 US could make people do some things right.
1:38:28
Speaker 3: And he went there and got shot and you know, at one point they were saying bullet lodged in his brain and he in a coma, or induced coma at least, and the argument then was whether they should bring him back to or get him airlifted back to Trinidad because St Martin did not have the expertise, whether it's in personal or technology, to do the surgery over there.
1:38:50
Speaker 3: And again, the mother crying thing, just like with Cartel the recording I hear with the woman crying about her son when they released Cartel.
1:38:58
Speaker 3: And everybody's celebrating that Cardi B, drake, the Breakfast Club, joe Budden Podcast, everybody's celebrating Shaggy, all the Jamaican artists well Spice, you'd expect that from, but even the artists who like straight and narrow.
1:39:12
Speaker 3: You see, shaggy, yeah, that's straight.
1:39:15
Speaker 3: Celebrating like back to road.
1:39:16
Speaker 3: And you know, think of how it would be if you knew what that man do your son, or you know that man is a wicked man or an evil man and people celebrating it.
1:39:25
Speaker 3: That is rough.
1:39:26
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
1:39:27
Speaker 3: They say kill Christ and free Barabbas.
1:39:29
Speaker 3: And we celebrate here.
1:39:30
Speaker 3: We celebrate and we release a Barabbas in our way, are we so?
1:39:36
Speaker 3: They say to me, like I hear that mother crying, when I hear this boy mother crying about bringing him home, I feel sorry, you know, and this is Plumpy Boy's mother now.
1:39:44
Speaker 3: Now she was crying about getting her son home.
1:39:46
Speaker 3: I mean, they're your child.
1:39:49
Speaker 3: And to the point where the Prime Minister or President of St Martin had to come out and respond to it and say basically, hey, you know, I mean this man and him coming here legally.
1:39:58
Speaker 3: He had no work permit to come and do no show here.
1:40:00
Speaker 3: Or they come in here and have visitors visa and put on a show.
1:40:02
Speaker 3: So he said that they will hold the promoter to account.
1:40:06
Speaker 3: But at this point he's back in trend, that they're saying that the surgery was done and it was a successful and he in stable condition.
1:40:13
Speaker 3: So all in all, I'm glad for the youth and similar to cartel.
1:40:19
Speaker 3: You know, when you have these kind of experiences and they come back from that, it's like how trump had a near-death experience and now he's a changed man.
1:40:26
Speaker 3: You know, I mean very remorseful.
1:40:28
Speaker 3: I'm grateful for life.
1:40:30
Speaker 3: After, after I mean to hit the airs, you had to know that life and death was right, although to me trump, no life, I'm dead right because man 150 something years old.
1:40:39
Speaker 3: But I hope that this lem see something and I it's always hope that you know where they have life, they have hope, they see right.
1:40:47
Speaker 3: And when you are youth, I find, like you, have extra hope and I hope that these youths find a different way.
1:40:52
Speaker 3: But you know, I mean they have plenty positive songs along with the, with the negative or the badness ones, and I know it's really badness songs or nothing like that.
1:41:01
Speaker 3: I I just want them to not make that their life, where they have a hundred thousand bounty on them and young and making good money and thing.
1:41:09
Speaker 3: Enjoy your life, man.
1:41:10
Speaker 3: So salute to plumpy boy, salute to your family, go to the whole trinidad movement and just wait for it, right, just wait for it and get some time for when, for when cartel come here and link up with them.
1:41:23
Speaker 3: Fellows, you know I mean, let me talk about some business a long time.
1:41:26
Speaker 3: We talk business, you know.
1:41:27
Speaker 3: You know, I mean I saw a post from angus to read.
1:41:30
Speaker 3: I want to highlight angus signs distribution agreement to export rum and bitters to china.
1:41:36
Speaker 3: Now, there's a hell of a story here.
1:41:39
Speaker 3: This whole clico thing, uh, and what would?
1:41:43
Speaker 3: What would it be called cl world brands at the time?
1:41:46
Speaker 3: Or there was a holding company that used to own clico and all the other brands.
1:41:52
Speaker 3: If I could remember that now, that would be good.
1:41:53
Speaker 3: I can't remember it, but there was a holding company and you know the whole situation with the financial crisis, I believe around 2008, and the government stepped in and take control of clico.
1:42:04
Speaker 3: I never agreed with that from the beginning, where, if a government wants to bail out a company, which I think it was the right move to do they couldn't afford to let Clico, the whole too big to fail thing right.
1:42:15
Speaker 3: One of the issues back then was that Clico in a pension portfolio in particular.
1:42:21
Speaker 3: So many people had their pensions with Clico.
1:42:23
Speaker 3: If you were looking for a pension in 2009, you were at the end of your working life and you looking at your pension and your saving and that was allowed to crash.
1:42:32
Speaker 3: That could create, well, a major instability in the society, french-like type protests and that kind of things.
1:42:39
Speaker 3: But more so it would be.
1:42:41
Speaker 3: It would become a burden on the government anyway, because now you have a bunch of older people who don't, may or may not be able to work and contribute beyond.
1:42:50
Speaker 3: They can't contribute no more.
1:42:51
Speaker 3: The nis contributions would be over, they would have maxed out.
1:42:55
Speaker 3: That's already assuming that a larger percentage of them would have maxed out their contributions.
1:43:00
Speaker 3: And then they now dependent dependent on their children and their offspring and dependent on the government or dependent on hands out, handouts and so on, when they had done everything right where they work.
1:43:12
Speaker 3: In their young life they set aside money, they calculate what they would need to live and they set up the pension and how much to bury them and how much to see about them when they reach trump level and biden level, age and cognizance and so on, and they do all the right things.
1:43:24
Speaker 3: And then now, due to no fault of their own, they lost that and they cannot.
1:43:28
Speaker 3: They don't have enough time to build back that kind of savings again.
1:43:30
Speaker 3: That's a major issue in society.
1:43:32
Speaker 3: It doesn't only affect the people who are the older ones who are expecting a pension tomorrow.
1:43:37
Speaker 3: It affects the 20 something year old person who looking at retirement now, when they look at it and they say, wait, I could save for the next 30 years and then end up with nothing at the end of that time.
1:43:50
Speaker 3: So it could cause a run on financial institutions as well, because the average amount of investors in pension funds and so on will drop off significantly.
1:43:57
Speaker 3: So they couldn't let clico fail and clico at the time, through the holding company, with somebody good reminder was the name of the holding company had owned several companies, of which angus dror was one.
1:44:08
Speaker 3: Right and the government basically take over the company, take control of all the boards 51 voting, if I'm not, if I'm mistaken and never really hand back over the business to the entrepreneur.
1:44:20
Speaker 3: Uh, so, as in with the states, who was not without their controversy themselves when they did bailouts of financial companies over there, what they did was debt financing or grants.
1:44:32
Speaker 3: In some cases, some of the money they give they never pay back, but most of it was the government giving you interest-free or very, very friendly loans to sort out your thing and help you get back on your feet right.
1:44:43
Speaker 3: Some percentage of debt and grants right and help you get back on your feet right.
1:44:47
Speaker 3: Some percentage of debt and grants right whereas our government take an equity approach to it as if they set a price for the company and almost like they give me the money but them own the company now.
1:44:56
Speaker 3: So we've never seen the return of the entrepreneurial spirit from people like dupree and um monti and the people who were behind, who again?
1:45:08
Speaker 3: Carlos John, who, some of the names I forget, who was on that Clico board at the time, who would, to me, be some of the most successful businessmen the country ever seen in terms of the level of the risk appetite and the level of innovation and so on.
1:45:22
Speaker 3: They were at the top of the game.
1:45:24
Speaker 3: To me, a better thing to do would have been to and I remember having arguments about of the game to me, a better thing to do would have been to I remember having arguments about this back in 2008 the better thing to do would have been to give them any money they needed to sort out the current situation, work out to them how they will pay it back and give them back the company in 2010, 11, 12 all those companies would have been far advanced now, 20 years down the road, if them men was in charge of it.
1:45:46
Speaker 3: Once government's in charge of it, it's going to slow down and grind to a halt and be perpetually dependent on public funds.
1:45:53
Speaker 3: I didn't agree with it at all and at the time I remember admiring maybe it's through UE projects and things right.
1:45:59
Speaker 3: I had to do research on what they had called CL World Brands and stuff and through their ownership of Angostura, they had called cl world brands and stuff and angus.
1:46:08
Speaker 3: Through their ownership of angus, through and maybe a part of our mba, we used to study a lot on how local brands could become global and so on, and one of the ways we could become global is to build up the name of our 1919 market.
1:46:19
Speaker 3: It's all about and get people to love 1919 in the way they like um bacardi, for instance.
1:46:25
Speaker 3: People just go and ask for bacardi, all about, or ask for Hennessy or Johnny Walker.
1:46:29
Speaker 3: Them is big brands.
1:46:30
Speaker 3: Nobody don't know why it's 1919.
1:46:32
Speaker 3: So one of the routes to build up a brand is to what you call like consumer pull right.
1:46:36
Speaker 3: So I advertise to consumers and I get them to increase the demand.
1:46:40
Speaker 3: And once they increase the demand in places like China and all these places, suppliers will find Angus to run it to say but everybody loved this 1990.
1:46:49
Speaker 3: Let me see who make this and they will buy it and make it available in the shelves and on the bars all over the world.
1:46:53
Speaker 3: Right, which would make sense to me at the time.
1:46:55
Speaker 3: And another way to do that is what you call like a like a push strategy rather than a pull strategy, where I use my sales channels.
1:47:04
Speaker 3: I don't have enough people I have relationships with to sell to to tell them here what.
1:47:07
Speaker 3: Put some of this on your shelf.
1:47:08
Speaker 3: I go.
1:47:09
Speaker 3: Put the marketing behind it.
1:47:10
Speaker 3: People will look at it.
1:47:10
Speaker 3: Generally speaking, a push and pull at the same time is work great.
1:47:14
Speaker 3: Right Saying that?
1:47:15
Speaker 3: To say that Dupre and them fellas was geniuses because what they did was, instead of going through all that, why are you talking about there?
1:47:23
Speaker 3: Right is that they were doing the marketing through people like lara and so on.
1:47:26
Speaker 3: They had pickup steam in australia with drinks like llb.
1:47:29
Speaker 3: Bitters was already a global product.
1:47:31
Speaker 3: Any bar in the world you go to, you'll find bitters.
1:47:33
Speaker 3: Right, and what them fellas and them do is buy out several other brands all over the world.
1:47:40
Speaker 3: I remember belvedere vodka being one.
1:47:41
Speaker 3: That last purchase I remember them making was a company in russia who was doing belvedere vodka.
1:47:47
Speaker 3: They had also bought a brand that was doing cruzan rums and I I remember looking at it and thinking to myself but cruzan rum ain't something no more like brand, like like the big brand compared to to angus.
1:48:01
Speaker 3: So it's something like the same problem they will have.
1:48:03
Speaker 3: Nobody don't know why it's cruzan.
1:48:04
Speaker 3: And well, belvedere vodka, I guess would have a little popularity at the time, but it's not like if, like I'm thinking well, why don't go and buy out like, um, absolute, my favorite vodka?
1:48:13
Speaker 3: You know, of course it might be impossible to buy absolute because nobody ain't selling your cabai.
1:48:19
Speaker 3: But what he was really buying was the sales channel, because cruzan rums had a strong foothold in latin america.
1:48:26
Speaker 3: So what he was doing was, when I say the sales channel, he buying the relationships that cruzan rum have with big distributors in latin america and big retailers in latin america.
1:48:34
Speaker 3: So when he buy all the company now, he bringing cruzan fear to buy at the same rate.
1:48:39
Speaker 3: He was buying by bringing 1919 theater taste.
1:48:42
Speaker 3: I say here what drink?
1:48:43
Speaker 3: A little 1824 to drink.
1:48:46
Speaker 3: So he was buying his relationships with places in russia which would handle most of eastern europe in terms of distribution of vodka and getting his rum brand straw there.
1:48:57
Speaker 3: I can't imagine what would be the value of angus russia today if those strategies had come true 20 years down the road.
1:49:05
Speaker 3: I think I trust them to make the footholds in foreign markets much more than I trust Governments that are going to make up the mind who in power is a strategy for the country or anything.
1:49:16
Speaker 3: But anyway, going back to this, at least this is a good sign and it shows that we headed in the right direction, so I want to highlight it.
1:49:21
Speaker 3: It says it's a world renowned company for rum and bitters.
1:49:25
Speaker 3: We are thrilled to announce a strategic distribution agreement to export our global award-winning products to China.
1:49:31
Speaker 3: The agreement is with Caribbean Commercial Management Hangzhou Company Limited, a subsidiary of First Caribbean Marketing Company Limited.
1:49:40
Speaker 3: Fcmc, angus wrote a decision to re-enter the Chinese market to capitalize on the increasing demand for high-quality and premium spirits and bitters.
1:49:47
Speaker 3: In the coming months, our products will be exported to China.
1:49:57
Speaker 3: Ceo of Angostura, laura Shun, said China represents a tremendous opportunity for our brand for our brand, given the distributors understanding the local market in china.
1:50:08
Speaker 3: We are confident that this partnership will significantly enhance our presence and drive our brand success in this dynamic region.
1:50:14
Speaker 3: So they're back to to china and I think it's a great thing to highlight.
1:50:21
Speaker 3: One of the key differences here between this strategy now which is great versus what was happening then, is it seemed to me that dupre and them wasn't in the biggest markets.
1:50:30
Speaker 3: They were not trying to take just an export approach, which is a is a cheaper approach and a less risky approach, but it will earn less on an export deal than if you go and build your own plant somewhere there.
1:50:45
Speaker 3: And it seemed to be that they were looking at a strategy where we would have seen uh angus through what is called a plant for rum distillery.
1:50:53
Speaker 3: You would have seen distilleries in places like russia or china or places like those to serve billions of people rather than a handful of people.
1:51:04
Speaker 3: But we take all that opportunity away.
1:51:07
Speaker 3: If you want an example of it, one day we will do a topic and talk about the remarkable nature of SMG Leel our own SMG Leel.
1:51:15
Speaker 3: We will talk about how amazing a story it is right that SMG Leel is able to use Chubby and make inroads all over the world with a product that's easy to copy.
1:51:26
Speaker 3: It's everybody in the world how they want to drink the coca-cola and pepsi and the first giants in that world.
1:51:33
Speaker 3: They will kill anybody.
1:51:33
Speaker 3: If it was your rise up, they're destroying you.
1:51:36
Speaker 3: But little company from here could make those inroads and become a global brand that you could see in walmart or any big retailer you go to anywhere in the states.
1:51:46
Speaker 3: You could find chubby and them kinds of things, just like how you could find bitters anywhere.
1:51:51
Speaker 3: One day we go, sit down and talk about sasha cosmetics, which is an impossible story going into our world, where again, it's only a two or three very big, very powerful cosmetic manufacturers in the world, but somehow sasha cosmetics find their way into spaces that you know.
1:52:07
Speaker 3: You wonder sometimes about little countries and and how much they could do.
1:52:11
Speaker 3: And it brings me right back to the whole olympic thing.
1:52:14
Speaker 3: If we put the right people in the right places who care about here enough, we could see amazing results in every olympics and be a force to reckon with, like what jamaica was able to accomplish or what we have accomplished before wasn't lucia's accomplished or dominica's accomplished.
1:52:31
Speaker 3: We can make them successes repeatable and consistently repeatable over time, but we don't seem to like the idea of systems and finding the right people in the right places.
1:52:42
Speaker 3: We, we are very administrative first and top heavy and we don't seem to put the talent first.
1:52:49
Speaker 3: Now, we don't.
1:52:49
Speaker 3: We're not putting the talent first on the track and we're not putting the talent first in the administration and we're not putting the funding in the right places.
1:52:57
Speaker 3: Is, is, is is odd to me.
1:52:59
Speaker 3: And these are the things that bring us immense pride, whether it's a michelle leahy or the ability to buy a chubby in canada, or the ability to drink a stag in australia or buy sasha cosmetics in china.
1:53:13
Speaker 3: These are the things that bring us enormous pride.
1:53:15
Speaker 3: Not, not, not the, not the little politic in anything.
1:53:18
Speaker 3: These are the things that allow us the money to fix salvatory car park and make tongue the most beautiful place.
1:53:26
Speaker 3: I most beautiful place.
1:53:27
Speaker 3: I went to a place called Disney Springs, disney Bella place.
1:53:30
Speaker 3: When you walk in the place nice.
1:53:34
Speaker 3: When the place nice, I just want to be nice too.
1:53:38
Speaker 3: I dance into some performer, everything just nice.
1:53:42
Speaker 3: When you walk into places that are nice, I don't think they have anything stopping us From accomplishing that or becoming that.
1:53:48
Speaker 3: But you have to put it in.
1:53:50
Speaker 3: The private sectors will drive us.
1:53:52
Speaker 3: The government will never get us there.
1:53:54
Speaker 3: Uh, the athletes and the entertainers, these are the same plumpy boss and them, it'll be careful.
1:53:59
Speaker 3: If you could write a song to lick off a man head back, you could write a song about anything.
1:54:03
Speaker 3: That had to be one of the hardest songs to write, and drop up a man's violin song was the hardest song to come up with.
1:54:10
Speaker 3: Them men have the talent to write songs that the whole world sings.
1:54:14
Speaker 3: You have a man like cartel, who the every entertainer in this thing, drake and them fellas coming out in cartel jersey could write about anything.
1:54:21
Speaker 3: So it's like we, we, we limit ourselves in this way by, you know, constantly shooting ourselves in our foot where the progress is concerned.
1:54:30
Speaker 3: And I saw it again this week where, out of the blue now, I was in the stadium how much ever, weeks ago when we drew to green and I wasn't happy.
1:54:39
Speaker 3: I wasn't happy with our style of play and the way we was looking as a team, and I want us to dominate places like grenado.
1:54:45
Speaker 3: We went I think it's in vince, no sin kids or some kind of saint and we beat them over 200 nil.
1:54:50
Speaker 3: So I said, all right, at least we, we need to be.
1:54:53
Speaker 3: I remember talking to my cousin shepi salute, wayne shepherd, barney and he was telling me well, you're still qualifying, oh, you say.
1:55:00
Speaker 3: You say we're in a good place nowadays, exactly anywhere.
1:55:03
Speaker 3: Anyhow you take it second to costa rica is where we will likely finish in this group and we have enough firepower and we'll get over the line.
1:55:12
Speaker 3: Uh, several questions have been asked about angus eve.
1:55:15
Speaker 3: Uh, man management, his selection policy, his tactics on the field.
1:55:21
Speaker 3: I know enough about football to question nobody.
1:55:23
Speaker 3: And when I was in the stadium I was like where's the sort of long ball thing we're playing over there?
1:55:26
Speaker 3: But after surviving that first round of games, when the next round of games is next year, I just see articles on nowhere.
1:55:34
Speaker 3: I don't know if this was brewing up any football.
1:55:36
Speaker 3: We'll almost call a sign up library and ask him if I could get up.
1:55:39
Speaker 3: Maybe I should get a sign to come out and talk about this.
1:55:41
Speaker 3: But I didn't see this coming from nowhere.
1:55:44
Speaker 3: Fans have been calling for Angus Eve to be fired almost after every game, at least every game that he does start showtime.
1:55:49
Speaker 3: Kevin Woodley, he's being called for to be fired and he's had the best record I've seen for Trinidad football in a long time.
1:55:56
Speaker 3: Not that it's great or is where we need to be, but certainly it's not under men like St Fleet and who's next fraud, terry Fenwick.
1:56:06
Speaker 3: It's not under men like St Fleet and who's next fraud, terry Fenwick.
1:56:07
Speaker 3: It's not under them.
1:56:08
Speaker 3: It's not that kind of coaching you'd see.
1:56:11
Speaker 3: So strange that I just see an article Eve fired, no replacement announced.
1:56:18
Speaker 3: I think is it Derek King or somebody who was one of his assistants is now in charge of the team and eager to see what happens next.
1:56:26
Speaker 3: They're claiming that it was a move made to put York in place.
1:56:30
Speaker 3: Angus, even now signing a one-year contract, he'll go owe the man the money for the rest of his contract, which is something very, very common in Trinidad football, where we fire people early in the contract phase.
1:56:41
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I don't know, I don't know the investment in the talent and so on.
1:56:45
Speaker 3: And if they move him to put York, I am not sure, at least from what I've seen in terms of York international pedigree with managing.
1:56:55
Speaker 3: York was already an assistant coach in Trinidad outfit when Latipi was the head coach.
1:57:00
Speaker 3: We didn't do great, I mean, we was in the hex, but we was already hexed pretty quickly too.
1:57:06
Speaker 3: So I mean, if it's York, I'm behind York 100%.
1:57:10
Speaker 3: I just don't understand the decision-making and the timing of it.
1:57:13
Speaker 3: You know At least.
1:57:15
Speaker 3: I guess the upside of the timing is that it puts us in a position where we have enough time before the next set of games to get a new coach in place.
1:57:23
Speaker 3: Is it Jack Warner coming back to say say, we'll get a coach that will blow your mind and get ben hacker kind of situation.
1:57:28
Speaker 3: We have a foreigner coming back.
1:57:30
Speaker 3: People seem to think we need a foreign international coach.
1:57:33
Speaker 3: But um, I don't know if I agree with that and I'm not sure that the business analogy is the best one.
1:57:39
Speaker 3: But if the brick it belongs to where it is and where's this caledon them could build.
1:57:46
Speaker 3: You know, you have, you have examples here of local.
1:57:49
Speaker 3: You break it, build Angostura to where it is, and and and Eve or Dwight York or whoever, it might be right.
1:57:56
Speaker 3: So something to monitor and I will continue to to support Soka Warriors regardless.
1:58:15
Speaker 3: I don't care, we need to make it to 2026.
1:58:19
Speaker 3: I tell myself Angus is the man to do the job, but the powers that be say he's not.
1:58:23
Speaker 3: I wish him the best.
1:58:23
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
1:58:24
Speaker 3: I'm not sure where Angus is going next.
1:58:26
Speaker 3: We was that bc, he's not.
1:58:27
Speaker 3: I wish him the best, you know.
1:58:27
Speaker 3: I mean I'm not sure where I'm just going next.
1:58:29
Speaker 3: We support him wherever you go and I'm hoping that within the next you know by the time I come back here to record again we name in a national coach.
1:58:34
Speaker 3: I hope it's not like if you're firing him at this point, it had to be that you have the replacement in mind, right?
1:58:40
Speaker 3: Please tell me that all I know who you're going to put on them kind of things and we're going to get right back on your road to usa 2026.
1:58:47
Speaker 3: So, yeah, we're here, we're back, we're back, we're back once you're hearing this, everything went well.
1:58:51
Speaker 3: I'm hoping that this didn't spend two hours talking about all kind of thing, because I just forget why it's up.
1:58:55
Speaker 3: But first, I hope all this work and I'll leave it all in there for this week.
1:58:59
Speaker 3: I hope all they have a great week.
1:59:00
Speaker 3: I have a little song.
1:59:01
Speaker 3: You know, I didn't forget how to do it.
1:59:02
Speaker 3: I have a little song to leave all you with in the spirit of the upliftment of this place we call Trinidad and Tobago.
1:59:09
Speaker 3: Regardless of what the results are in the Olympics.
1:59:12
Speaker 3: I think these youths doing a great job and they're representing and flying this flag high, regardless of what you might want to say about we uniform when we come out.
1:59:20
Speaker 3: Anything I wish dream the best if we could still get get some medal.
1:59:22
Speaker 3: We have some really interesting to run.
1:59:23
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about it next week and we'll celebrate it, but in spirit of Trinidad and Tobago.
1:59:36
Speaker 1: I love my sugar island, sweet sunny island.
2:00:04
Speaker 2: My homeland is sweet for so Island, my sugar island, sweet, precious island, I will never let you go.
2:00:14
Speaker 2: No, 15, 19, 19,.
2:00:17
Speaker 2: Angostura, my land, sweet for so Dal and roti, chai and cochila.
2:00:21
Speaker 2: My land, sweet for so Curry and wild meat with slight hot pepper, my super soul.
2:00:27
Speaker 2: Pure and healthy.
2:00:29
Speaker 2: Coconut water, my super soul.
2:00:31
Speaker 2: Come, come for a holiday.
2:00:35
Speaker 1: Get some sun, dry therapy, melt all the distress away.
2:00:38
Speaker 1: You'll fall to a better day.
2:00:40
Speaker 1: Come, come for a holiday.
2:00:42
Speaker 1: Play my sweet insanity Jump from two races in space.
2:00:51
Speaker 1: Lord, that's a sweet life.
2:00:53
Speaker 1: I pray I would never let you go my home.
2:00:56
Speaker 1: And it's sweet from sun.
2:01:34
Speaker 3: My sugar island, my sweet sugar island.
2:01:37
Speaker 3: I will never let you go.
2:01:40
Speaker 3: You know I forget how much rain is really falling in the West.
2:01:51
Speaker 3: Now Come back and you're going to see how much rain every day.
2:01:53
Speaker 3: I was going to love it, stay dry and stay safe and everything, but I don't know if it's only me experiencing this.
2:01:58
Speaker 3: I see the city Jersey like yellow alerts and everything, so it's heavy rain.
2:02:01
Speaker 3: I'm leaving Hollywood.
2:02:02
Speaker 3: Something to stay nice and dry.
2:02:11
Speaker 1: You only remember this.
2:02:12
Speaker 1: Now you know what we need.
2:02:16
Speaker 4: Receive from selfishness and greed Indeed.
2:02:18
Speaker 4: That's how we succeed.
2:02:20
Speaker 4: Ecstatic.
2:02:28
Speaker 1: We'll see.
2:02:28
Speaker 1: Yes, when I take a look into the world today, I see these are such children going astray, babies making babies, some being sent to jail and with the crimes they commit, there's no one to their aid.
2:02:39
Speaker 1: I ask myself many questions and I got no answer.
2:02:43
Speaker 1: The world needs more affection.
2:02:46
Speaker 1: We got to dig deeper.
2:02:47
Speaker 1: Wash away your hatred with love and you'll feel better.
2:02:52
Speaker 1: Just walk away from your anger and you will live on.
2:02:56
Speaker 1: The world needs more love.
2:02:59
Speaker 1: I say the world needs more love.
2:03:02
Speaker 1: The world needs more love.
2:03:06
Speaker 1: The world needs more love.
2:03:07
Speaker 1: Very nice, say that again.
2:03:13
Speaker 1: So what you gonna do?
2:03:14
Speaker 1: Love up with your baby, drink up and be merry.
2:03:17
Speaker 1: Don't you worry, I know life is not easy.
2:03:22
Speaker 1: Make up with somebody.
2:03:24
Speaker 1: Hold up in the party.
2:03:27
Speaker 4: Drink up and be ironed.
2:03:28
Speaker 4: There's no need to be under.
2:03:30
Speaker 4: Tell them I said you love your gun.
2:03:33
Speaker 4: Spread it, bring me, lovin', and come Share it round.
2:03:36
Speaker 4: Everyone Spread it like butter on a bun.
2:03:39
Speaker 4: But love is about a ton and we've only just begun.
2:03:43
Speaker 4: Bring it, come have some fun.
2:03:45
Speaker 4: Share it, come have some fun.
2:03:47
Speaker 1: Share it with everyone.
2:03:47
Speaker 1: Separation never mean you can't be friends.
2:03:51
Speaker 1: Keep the love in your heart till your life ends.
2:03:56
Speaker 1: Try not to be part of what people play.
2:03:59
Speaker 1: You say I say they'll always be here.
2:04:03
Speaker 1: Say I ask myself many questions and I got no answer.
2:04:09
Speaker 1: The world needs more affection.
2:04:11
Speaker 1: You got to dig deeper.
2:04:13
Speaker 1: Wash away your hatred with love.
2:04:16
Speaker 1: Hey, you feel better.
2:04:17
Speaker 1: Just walk away from your anger.
2:04:20
Speaker 1: Hey, you will live longer.
2:04:23
Speaker 2: The world needs more love.
2:04:24
Speaker 2: I said the world needs more love.
2:04:35
Speaker 3: And I will see all you next week.
2:04:38
Speaker 3: Bye.