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- 0:01Speaker 1: You're listening to a DM podcast.
- 0:03Speaker 2: We'll try to keep it as nice as we can,
- 0:05Speaker 2: but you might hear the occasional swear word in No Dribble.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Don't tell mom, Hey Coxy, Yes, Elizabeth.
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- 0:11Speaker 3: and me?
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- 0:24Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm coming. I'm dragging the child.
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- 0:28Speaker 1: What am I gonna wear? Oh god, that's a whole
- 0:30Speaker 1: nother thing. Anyway, we'll discuss do we need to match?
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- 0:57Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to No Dribble, the podcast where we
- 0:59Speaker 2: talk about netball. We talk about a whole lot of
- 1:01Speaker 2: other things besides. My name is Carolyn Swindell. I am
- 1:04Speaker 2: sitting in Sydney side by side with my good mate.
- 1:08Speaker 1: Oh do you want me to jump in? Or did
- 1:10Speaker 1: you forget who your mate was?
- 1:11Speaker 3: No?
- 1:11Speaker 2: I remembered your name, but I was wondering whether you
- 1:13Speaker 2: would know when I say you're my good mate that
- 1:15Speaker 2: that's who I'm talking to.
- 1:16Speaker 1: I need to check my turttoo, my former good.
- 1:18Speaker 2: Mate, my acquaintance cath Cox, Hello, Ca, Hi everyone, and
- 1:24Speaker 2: joined as always virtually by the boss from the far
- 1:27Speaker 2: North Coast.
- 1:28Speaker 4: Lie And if anyone was ever wondering if we do rehearsals,
- 1:31Speaker 4: there's your answer.
- 1:36Speaker 5: It is a brand new netball week for us.
- 1:38Speaker 2: It was great to see on the Facebook page, the
- 1:40Speaker 2: notable Facebook page.
- 1:41Speaker 5: If you're not on it, get on it. Come on.
- 1:43Speaker 2: So many people with their final series afoot at the
- 1:47Speaker 2: moment and games being played everywhere around the country.
- 1:51Speaker 1: Do you know what else? I saw though? A team
- 1:53Speaker 1: that had the easter bunny and center.
- 1:58Speaker 2: She's gone with a fast five team, which I thought
- 2:00Speaker 2: was brilliant, and she's put an elfit center, which I
- 2:03Speaker 2: think is true.
- 2:05Speaker 1: Now want to more pressing things. You had your grand
- 2:08Speaker 1: final last week.
- 2:09Speaker 2: I had my Grand final last week. I had my
- 2:11Speaker 2: entire season last week. Walked to us Saturday.
- 2:13Speaker 5: It was great.
- 2:14Speaker 2: I had a really great time and I got to
- 2:15Speaker 2: meet quite a few dribblers, which was really nice. So
- 2:17Speaker 2: thank you very much for coming. Those of you who
- 2:19Speaker 2: did are thanks to you for coming on Thursday night
- 2:21Speaker 2: and putting your aure in on a couple of occasions,
- 2:23Speaker 2: which was hilarious. But no, it was great. I'm exhausted yesterday.
- 2:29Speaker 2: I was just walking around like a zombie.
- 2:30Speaker 5: But it was great.
- 2:31Speaker 2: It was the best, the best one hour show season
- 2:34Speaker 2: I've ever done, and it ticked all the boxes. I
- 2:36Speaker 2: wanted to be well organized, I wanted to give myself
- 2:38Speaker 2: a chance to write it well. Every time I've ever
- 2:40Speaker 2: done a one hour show, I get about two days out.
- 2:42Speaker 5: And go, oh my god, I don't have time. What
- 2:43Speaker 5: am I going to do? How do I cover up this?
- 2:45Speaker 2: So, yeah, it was great. It was a very satisfying experience.
- 2:49Speaker 1: You were fantastic. I loved it. And do you know
- 2:51Speaker 1: I'm gobsmacked that you could keep everyone's attention for an hour.
- 2:54Speaker 1: That's a bloody long time. I was thinking about it
- 2:57Speaker 1: driving there. How you hold people attention and you're also
- 3:01Speaker 1: got to be funny for the whole hour. It was fantastic.
- 3:04Speaker 1: It went so quick. I said to my girlfriend on
- 3:05Speaker 1: the way out, how fast did that go?
- 3:07Speaker 5: That's good?
- 3:08Speaker 2: Real, Yeah, there's nothing worse than sitting there thinking are
- 3:10Speaker 2: we done with him?
- 3:14Speaker 4: When people start looking at their watching like, oh, Caroline,
- 3:17Speaker 4: I'm interested. One of the things a great anecdote that
- 3:20Speaker 4: I read about Billy Connolly was that before his best
- 3:22Speaker 4: shows he would say to his wife Pamela, Pala, Pamela.
- 3:28Speaker 5: He wishes Pamela Stephen.
- 3:30Speaker 4: Yeah, right, so and she she wrote autobiography of him,
- 3:33Speaker 4: and for those of you who don't know Billy Connley,
- 3:35Speaker 4: it's a fantastic comic. And the more panickedy was before
- 3:38Speaker 4: a show about how crap the show was going to
- 3:40Speaker 4: be and how he didn't have a show and he
- 3:41Speaker 4: didn't know what to do, the better it would be.
- 3:44Speaker 4: And I saw that in the two thousand Olympics. I
- 3:47Speaker 4: was working over nights for Channel seven and Roy and
- 3:51Speaker 4: h She remember when they did Olympic Games and I
- 3:55Speaker 4: would be in hair and makeup when they were in
- 3:56Speaker 4: hair and makeup, and the more panics they were about
- 3:59Speaker 4: the fact they didn't have a which was most sights,
- 4:01Speaker 4: the better the show would It was like the adrenaline.
- 4:04Speaker 4: You balance that between being prepared but needing that adrenaline heat, Like,
- 4:08Speaker 4: does that work for you?
- 4:09Speaker 2: So I think someone like Billy Connolly has a lifetime
- 4:12Speaker 2: more comedy experience than I do, and.
- 4:14Speaker 5: So I like to be well prepared.
- 4:17Speaker 2: But you also have to leave space in the room
- 4:19Speaker 2: for what happens in the room, because so much of
- 4:21Speaker 2: comedy is created between the comedian and the audience.
- 4:24Speaker 5: If you go out there and just.
- 4:26Speaker 2: Recite a script of funny stuff, that's fine, but it's
- 4:29Speaker 2: not that great for an experience for the audience. The
- 4:31Speaker 2: audience needs to feel like they're part of the creation
- 4:34Speaker 2: of it, so you need to leave some space there
- 4:36Speaker 2: for that to happen, for things to go wrong, or
- 4:39Speaker 2: to allow for the interjections and the like. So for me,
- 4:42Speaker 2: it's a balance between being prepared, knowing I've got some
- 4:45Speaker 2: good stuff, and knowing when you need to give the audience,
- 4:48Speaker 2: Like I need to build the audience up in the
- 4:49Speaker 2: beginning so they are laughing, because people will stay quiet
- 4:54Speaker 2: until they know everyone else is laughing, even if they're
- 4:56Speaker 2: really enjoying the show. So you've got to give them
- 4:58Speaker 2: some big stuff up front, and then you can start
- 5:00Speaker 2: to go a little bit. I guess off reservation with
- 5:02Speaker 2: the stuff.
- 5:03Speaker 3: When Katherine and I met you, you were like a
- 5:05Speaker 3: corporate beast.
- 5:06Speaker 4: You're working in PR and communications and sponsorship, and I
- 5:10Speaker 4: mean we thought you were funny. We always whenever I'd
- 5:12Speaker 4: said in Matthew when I first met here, Oh Carolyn, Yeah.
- 5:15Speaker 3: My funny little friend.
- 5:19Speaker 4: So I want to know, like, how do you make
- 5:21Speaker 4: the decision to go from You know, you were quite
- 5:24Speaker 4: senior at Vodaphone and then at Coca Colas, So what
- 5:28Speaker 4: on earth made you go I'm going to pursue a
- 5:31Speaker 4: career as a writer and a comedian. And how hard
- 5:34Speaker 4: was that?
- 5:35Speaker 2: I'd always been doing the writing, and it was almost
- 5:37Speaker 2: I think I was spun out of the corporate world
- 5:39Speaker 2: I had. I had quite a bad experience. I was
- 5:41Speaker 2: working with a guy and we just couldn't make it work.
- 5:44Speaker 2: And then I ended up walking out one day and
- 5:46Speaker 2: never going back. And I was quite bruised from that.
- 5:49Speaker 2: And so that's when I left the corporate world and
- 5:50Speaker 2: started to look at how I was doing my work.
- 5:52Speaker 2: And then I started to work from I was working
- 5:54Speaker 2: from home long before COVID made it popular, So you know,
- 5:57Speaker 2: quite the early adopter there and yeah, but it was
- 6:01Speaker 2: mostly I was working on the novel for a long time,
- 6:02Speaker 2: and there's no feedback loop.
- 6:05Speaker 5: When you're writing a novel.
- 6:05Speaker 2: You just have to wait until you know, ten years
- 6:08Speaker 2: later or however long it takes you to write the thing,
- 6:10Speaker 2: and hopefully someone will publish it, and then someone might go,
- 6:12Speaker 2: I read your book.
- 6:13Speaker 3: That was good.
- 6:13Speaker 2: Yeah, but I needed something sort of to feed the
- 6:17Speaker 2: beast a little bit more. So I think it was.
- 6:19Speaker 5: It's a bit bit sad.
- 6:20Speaker 2: Actually, I got to I was turning fifty and I
- 6:23Speaker 2: realized I've lost two friends. I lost a friend at
- 6:25Speaker 2: thirteen and I lost another one at thirty seven, and
- 6:27Speaker 2: I thought I've had more than the two of them combined,
- 6:30Speaker 2: and what am I doing here? So it was just okay,
- 6:33Speaker 2: I'm always thought I might give stand up, Ago went
- 6:36Speaker 2: and did a five minute set. Never need to do
- 6:38Speaker 2: that again, And then a year later thought might dry
- 6:41Speaker 2: that again, And then the next day wake up and went,
- 6:43Speaker 2: all right, that's it.
- 6:44Speaker 5: I'm in this.
- 6:44Speaker 1: Why after the first time you decide never going to
- 6:47Speaker 1: do that again?
- 6:47Speaker 2: Because I just wanted to see if I could do it.
- 6:49Speaker 2: I wanted to I want to actually do it. Yeah,
- 6:51Speaker 2: I just wanted to try it. I wanted to see
- 6:53Speaker 2: if I could do it without choking. I thought, I
- 6:55Speaker 2: don't know if I'm funny, but I can be well prepared,
- 6:57Speaker 2: which is.
- 6:58Speaker 1: What were you funny? Though? It was, I'm laughing.
- 6:59Speaker 5: It's fine.
- 7:00Speaker 2: So for a five minute comedy set, you need to
- 7:03Speaker 2: be getting a laugh about every twelve seconds.
- 7:05Speaker 1: Oh my cure, that's exhausting.
- 7:07Speaker 2: But what I did was I had a long story
- 7:10Speaker 2: that was entertaining and it had a big payoff at
- 7:12Speaker 2: the end with the laugh. But it's that's structurally wrong
- 7:15Speaker 2: for five minutes. So I did an okay job. It
- 7:17Speaker 2: was fine, it was good, no one was bored. I
- 7:19Speaker 2: didn't disgrace myself, but I didn't understand the process of comedy.
- 7:24Speaker 2: So if you want to do a longer story, it
- 7:25Speaker 2: needs to be part of a longer set. But five minutes,
- 7:28Speaker 2: you've got to have him laughing within the first fifteen seconds.
- 7:30Speaker 1: You are in inspiration, though were you are like, it's
- 7:33Speaker 1: a massive leap to take, And then I'm sitting here
- 7:36Speaker 1: now thinking that I'm actually on my career path that
- 7:38Speaker 1: I want to be on. But who knows, Elizabeth, what
- 7:41Speaker 1: are you going to do when you have your mid
- 7:43Speaker 1: life crisis.
- 7:44Speaker 3: I've had a number of mid laughs.
- 7:48Speaker 5: What do you want to be when you?
- 7:49Speaker 3: Why did I?
- 7:50Speaker 4: We have doctor Carl Critchinski on the project the other night,
- 7:53Speaker 4: and his career is amazing.
- 7:55Speaker 3: It's just released a book and.
- 7:59Speaker 4: Or something, yeah, forty seventh actually, but it's the first
- 8:02Speaker 4: time he's written about himself and he's going to really
- 8:04Speaker 4: fascinating life.
- 8:05Speaker 3: Like his mum was a survivor of als Schwitz, and
- 8:08Speaker 3: she never.
- 8:09Speaker 4: Told him that until it was much older, Like she
- 8:12Speaker 4: told him that she was Russian, I think, and a
- 8:14Speaker 4: different age, and then he found out she was Polish.
- 8:16Speaker 4: And do his stemy kids by saying what are you
- 8:19Speaker 4: going to be? When your grap he knows what they're
- 8:20Speaker 4: going to be when that girl. Like, I'm fifty one
- 8:22Speaker 4: and I don't know what I'm going to do for
- 8:24Speaker 4: the next twenty years. I want to do something, but
- 8:25Speaker 4: I don't quite know.
- 8:27Speaker 3: Podcasting, yeah, amaze.
- 8:29Speaker 1: So much.
- 8:32Speaker 4: Talking, Yeah, talking to my friends. Yeah, I could make
- 8:35Speaker 4: it pay. It'd be fantastic. So like I think, I
- 8:38Speaker 4: do think it's really interesting. I think taking the leap
- 8:40Speaker 4: and the other thing is about comedy. It's a very
- 8:42Speaker 4: masculine sort of like sport. It's traditionally very masculine. So
- 8:46Speaker 4: how do you go like the female comedians?
- 8:49Speaker 3: Do you all stick together? Do you support each other?
- 8:51Speaker 1: Well, she's little, but she packs a punch, don't worry
- 8:54Speaker 1: about that.
- 8:56Speaker 2: It is an amazingly supportive comedy community. I can only
- 8:59Speaker 2: really speak for the Sydney comedy community, but the women
- 9:02Speaker 2: are very supportive of one another. But the blokes are
- 9:04Speaker 2: also great too. And I think maybe because I'm a
- 9:06Speaker 2: bit older coming into this, I don't mind. I mean,
- 9:09Speaker 2: I dislike in principle that if I'm the only female
- 9:13Speaker 2: on a lineup, because it's like, I'm sorry, can we
- 9:14Speaker 2: try harder? I know there's a lot of very funny
- 9:17Speaker 2: female comedians, but I don't feel alienated or out of
- 9:22Speaker 2: the ground, maybe because I don't expect to be part
- 9:24Speaker 2: of the group anyway, because they're mostly in their twenties
- 9:26Speaker 2: and thirties and I'm clearly older. So it's like, well, look,
- 9:29Speaker 2: as long as you're nice to me, I'm not trying
- 9:31Speaker 2: to score or even you know, form a gang here.
- 9:34Speaker 2: So maybe I don't have the expectations, but I don't
- 9:36Speaker 2: feel on the outer even when I'm just on a
- 9:39Speaker 2: lineup with all blokes because there's decent blokes.
- 9:42Speaker 1: The show was awesome, though suitable employment. It's funny because
- 9:45Speaker 1: I was thinking the whole way through some of the
- 9:47Speaker 1: best and the worst jobs you've had them, And you
- 9:49Speaker 1: talk about, you know, the tricks to have up your
- 9:52Speaker 1: sleeve and when you're going for jobs and stuff. But
- 9:54Speaker 1: what was one of the worst ones you had? We've
- 9:56Speaker 1: had a few of the funny ones. Yeah, so the
- 10:00Speaker 1: back of the car and stuff like that. Sorry, with
- 10:02Speaker 1: superstars and in the.
- 10:03Speaker 5: Back of the car.
- 10:04Speaker 2: Yes, that's when I had Dominic purcell there sitting in
- 10:06Speaker 2: my son's films. So I was an elfin the Maya Center.
- 10:09Speaker 4: The fan.
- 10:11Speaker 2: Really hated that job, so I don't even have to
- 10:15Speaker 2: touch it. But you could have then doubled up as
- 10:20Speaker 2: the center in the in the Past five that's right,
- 10:23Speaker 2: at hel Mac's Past five.
- 10:24Speaker 5: That's right, would have been perfect for me. What's the
- 10:26Speaker 5: worst job you've ever had?
- 10:27Speaker 4: Oh?
- 10:28Speaker 1: I had some shut up. Listen to her laughing already.
- 10:32Speaker 1: The uniform wasn't good. Is that what you're thinking of? Yeah,
- 10:38Speaker 1: it was actually the best job in the world. I
- 10:40Speaker 1: worked at durro Lee.
- 10:41Speaker 5: Oh did you have the big boat.
- 10:43Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I had the big boat. It was the
- 10:45Speaker 1: days where they had the smock with your candy, games
- 10:48Speaker 1: and liquide all sorts with the dirty, big pink bow.
- 10:50Speaker 1: So yes, that was an ideal.
- 10:53Speaker 5: Did you know her then, Liz?
- 10:55Speaker 4: Yeah, she used to come to training the six foot
- 10:57Speaker 4: two long with the big pig boat.
- 11:01Speaker 1: With a bag full of goodies.
- 11:02Speaker 5: And I'm sorry, per.
- 11:07Speaker 1: It was the best job in the world though, So
- 11:09Speaker 1: anything that we couldn't fit into the packaging you got
- 11:12Speaker 1: to take home nice and so I would take loot
- 11:14Speaker 1: galorder training and walking and the guys are like, what
- 11:16Speaker 1: do you go? What do you got? I'm like, yeah, hi, guys,
- 11:18Speaker 1: it's good to see you.
- 11:21Speaker 3: We didn't do any games at you, but we we
- 11:23Speaker 3: hung out of our dresses. But god, we had lots.
- 11:26Speaker 1: Of good We were sat bastards and we were funny.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Darryl Lee's chocolate and prawn pasta before every day.
- 11:34Speaker 1: What was yours? Liz?
- 11:35Speaker 3: Oh god? I was a checkout chick for years.
- 11:38Speaker 4: I started at a supermarket in western Sydney and the
- 11:41Speaker 4: manager there used to come into the lunch room before
- 11:44Speaker 4: shifts and just put his hand on the girl's knees.
- 11:48Speaker 3: I would not stand for that.
- 11:49Speaker 4: And I was only young, so I would always leave
- 11:52Speaker 4: when he walked in the room, and he hated me.
- 11:54Speaker 4: And so back in the day we used to like
- 11:57Speaker 4: when you were the last person employee, you'd have to
- 12:00Speaker 4: stay on the register for the whole time.
- 12:02Speaker 3: And this isn't back in the days.
- 12:03Speaker 4: Where you know, what do I call scanners, Oh, there's
- 12:07Speaker 4: no scanners. And but even before that, there was like
- 12:10Speaker 4: no conveyor belt, right, so you had to go trolley
- 12:13Speaker 4: to trolley, so you had to pick a carton of
- 12:15Speaker 4: milk up, call the price three six in nine and
- 12:18Speaker 4: put it into the keyboard and go trolley to trolley, right.
- 12:21Speaker 3: So it was that part of the job was horrible.
- 12:24Speaker 3: And but as more people got employed after you, you
- 12:27Speaker 3: could move up and eventually.
- 12:28Speaker 4: You could go and pack shells and things that wouldn't
- 12:31Speaker 4: have to put customers through. But because this manager hated it,
- 12:34Speaker 4: because I wouldn't sit in the luth room when he
- 12:36Speaker 4: wanted to come and you know, be discussing, dirty old bastard,
- 12:40Speaker 4: he used to make me stay on the on the
- 12:42Speaker 4: registers all the time.
- 12:43Speaker 3: That was his punishment for me.
- 12:45Speaker 4: So I absolutely hated it, and I remember got like
- 12:47Speaker 4: I got three dollars eighty an hour or something.
- 12:49Speaker 3: But it absolutely gave me so much ambition.
- 12:52Speaker 4: I was like, right, I'm going to go to university
- 12:54Speaker 4: and have a job where I never have to do
- 12:56Speaker 4: this job ever again. Obviously things are different now and
- 12:59Speaker 4: people have farm more comprested their workplaced rights. But when
- 13:03Speaker 4: I think about it, it was a horrible place to work.
- 13:06Speaker 4: I hated it, and I hated having to dodge his
- 13:09Speaker 4: old sleeves band.
- 13:12Speaker 1: Make his skin crawled.
- 13:13Speaker 3: He used to make us call him misstail. I won't say.
- 13:15Speaker 3: His last name was Smith, mister Smith, who went like
- 13:18Speaker 3: he just had this real dick. I don't want to
- 13:22Speaker 3: think about this.
- 13:22Speaker 1: This is a good therapy session for you.
- 13:26Speaker 2: A little near the chat, when I got my very
- 13:29Speaker 2: first corporate job, I wasn't allowed to wear trousers. It
- 13:33Speaker 2: was you had to wear a skirt and panty hose
- 13:37Speaker 2: and high heels. You could only wear trousers if it
- 13:39Speaker 2: was part of a pants suit.
- 13:41Speaker 3: Well do you know?
- 13:42Speaker 4: So you know there used to be so Obviously that
- 13:44Speaker 4: job at the supermarket spured me on, and I became
- 13:47Speaker 4: a lawyer. And the further I was at I remember
- 13:50Speaker 4: one of the litigators telling me once that there was
- 13:52Speaker 4: a judge, an older judge, and if a woman like
- 13:55Speaker 4: a barrister or a lawyer stood up to speak before
- 13:57Speaker 4: him in the courtroom and they had pants on his say,
- 14:00Speaker 4: I can't see you.
- 14:01Speaker 1: Are you serious.
- 14:04Speaker 3: This wasn't that long ago. This was early two thousand.
- 14:06Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Oh my god, justice will not be done anyway.
- 14:10Speaker 3: Yeah, so there you go. Hopefully things have changed.
- 14:12Speaker 4: But my god, you know, there's a reason I'm not
- 14:14Speaker 4: a lawyer anymore, no reason I don't work in supermarkets anymore.
- 14:17Speaker 1: I love the story about what it was though that
- 14:20Speaker 1: tipped you over the edge to leaving law because of
- 14:23Speaker 1: all the things tell all them.
- 14:26Speaker 4: So yeah, so, like I was a lawyer for about
- 14:29Speaker 4: five years, and I did think that I was going
- 14:30Speaker 4: to make partner and captain the Australian netball team. It
- 14:33Speaker 4: turns out that that Vin diagram with those two things,
- 14:35Speaker 4: they don't overlap, They bump into each other and repel
- 14:38Speaker 4: because there's no time enough time to do bath.
- 14:40Speaker 3: And obviously we all know which one went out.
- 14:42Speaker 4: And so I've been working for a firm that I
- 14:45Speaker 4: still have a lot of great friends, and they really
- 14:47Speaker 4: they looked after me but I just realized it wasn't
- 14:49Speaker 4: for me. And I was working with this partner who
- 14:51Speaker 4: I bloody adored, I loved him. But we went to
- 14:53Speaker 4: this well acting for this government entity and there was
- 14:59Speaker 4: looking like there was going to be some litigation, and
- 15:01Speaker 4: we went to brief a barrister. So if you're a solicitor,
- 15:03Speaker 4: you actually don't in a corporate case. You brief embarrasster
- 15:06Speaker 4: and they give you your expert advice and if it
- 15:09Speaker 4: goes to court, they'll do the representation in court.
- 15:11Speaker 3: So we goes sit with this.
- 15:12Speaker 4: Barrister in chambers and we're talking about the advice is
- 15:16Speaker 4: going to give us, and he was looking through the
- 15:18Speaker 4: contract and he goes, right.
- 15:20Speaker 3: So, you know what, I'm really excited about where this.
- 15:23Speaker 4: Comment is is really going to make all the difference
- 15:25Speaker 4: for us, because if it was there and I drafted
- 15:28Speaker 4: the contract right, if it was there, that would be bad.
- 15:30Speaker 4: But the comma is here and that could be very good.
- 15:32Speaker 4: And I sat there and I thought, so it was
- 15:36Speaker 4: a comma that made me go, you know what? And
- 15:39Speaker 4: I was so I knew the difference right because in
- 15:41Speaker 4: my network career, I would dot every iron cross, every
- 15:44Speaker 4: t is Catherine new like I was really driven that
- 15:46Speaker 4: everything had to be perfect.
- 15:50Speaker 3: Well, you know, it worked.
- 15:52Speaker 4: But then in my legal career, I just didn't have
- 15:56Speaker 4: the same drive to get everything as perfect. And I thought,
- 15:58Speaker 4: that's not fair of the clients. And then I thought
- 16:01Speaker 4: I had to finish and I went to draft some
- 16:03Speaker 4: advice and my partner said to me, every time you
- 16:06Speaker 4: draft your advice, I check my insurance.
- 16:12Speaker 3: I thought, right, it's time to go.
- 16:14Speaker 5: The performance review, isn't it?
- 16:16Speaker 3: It is?
- 16:16Speaker 6: And he was like he was.
- 16:17Speaker 3: I adored him.
- 16:19Speaker 4: Sadly he's passed away, and you know, I just adored him.
- 16:23Speaker 4: But he was telling me that it wasn't and he
- 16:25Speaker 4: was right. I think I had I kept on being
- 16:27Speaker 4: a lawyer, I don't think I would have been happy,
- 16:29Speaker 4: and I wouldn't you know.
- 16:31Speaker 3: I made the decision to leave, and it was a
- 16:32Speaker 3: good one.
- 16:33Speaker 2: Liz, the liability, I will say, though, you have maintained
- 16:38Speaker 2: a punctuation focus throughout the rest of your life, haven't you.
- 16:41Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons I knew what could be friends.
- 16:44Speaker 2: So there was other exciting stuff on the weekend, though.
- 16:51Speaker 2: The Murray Little Shield was on.
- 16:53Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 16:53Speaker 4: So the Murray Little Shield is for players with intellectual disabilities.
- 16:56Speaker 4: It's the National Championships and it was held in Brisbane.
- 16:59Speaker 4: It's actually been going since twenty thirteen, so this must
- 17:02Speaker 4: be what the twelfth time it's been played.
- 17:04Speaker 3: I don't know about COVID, but yeah, so's. It's pretty amazing.
- 17:07Speaker 4: And most associations have a team that plays in the
- 17:11Speaker 4: regular comp for plays with intellectual disability. And I remember
- 17:14Speaker 4: playing when I was a kid in the Hawksbury Association
- 17:16Speaker 4: and the club was called the Blue Jays and.
- 17:18Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah right.
- 17:21Speaker 4: So you know, in Balina we have the same thing
- 17:23Speaker 4: and I think they might play in DIV one and
- 17:25Speaker 4: it's fantastic. And I saw a little bit about the
- 17:27Speaker 4: netball Austra CEO Stacey West was up there and she
- 17:29Speaker 4: sent me through a little clip and it was so
- 17:32Speaker 4: beautiful and absolutely encapsulates so much of what our sport
- 17:36Speaker 4: is about. So she videoed this goal shooter shooting and
- 17:39Speaker 4: she shot and when it went in she did the
- 17:43Speaker 4: coolest little hit wiggle dad and then and then the
- 17:47Speaker 4: goalkeeper turned around and gave her a high.
- 17:49Speaker 3: Five and they were just laughing. I was like, it
- 17:51Speaker 3: was awesome. I'll see Stacy, will let me put it
- 17:53Speaker 3: up on our Facebook basice.
- 17:55Speaker 4: I looked at it and I just got tearious. I thought,
- 17:56Speaker 4: this is just amazing. So I think New South Wales one,
- 18:00Speaker 4: so congratulations.
- 18:02Speaker 1: And we beat Victoria too.
- 18:03Speaker 5: Can we just just get that in they were last year.
- 18:06Speaker 1: We're talking about last year. We're talking about.
- 18:11Speaker 3: We would take all the wins that we can get. Right.
- 18:13Speaker 3: So there's a couple of really cool things.
- 18:15Speaker 4: In September that are happening in this like you know,
- 18:17Speaker 4: in the space that we often don't see, so the
- 18:19Speaker 4: Murray Little Shield. And then this week the National Indigenous
- 18:23Speaker 4: Championships kickoff in Melbourne as well. It's the first time
- 18:25Speaker 4: that tournament has been held and every state and territory
- 18:28Speaker 4: is putting in a team.
- 18:29Speaker 5: Fantastic.
- 18:30Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 18:30Speaker 4: Alie Tucker Munro, who's the first Nations lead, has done
- 18:33Speaker 4: a work in that regard, so it's so exciting and yeah,
- 18:37Speaker 4: so I'm looking forward to this weekend. Last weekend in
- 18:40Speaker 4: Brisbane was just amazing. So congrats to New South Wales
- 18:43Speaker 4: and congrats to everyone who turned up.
- 18:45Speaker 3: It's just a really great tournament.
- 18:47Speaker 4: And it's so good to see our sport putting resources
- 18:50Speaker 4: and committing to things like this, right.
- 18:52Speaker 3: Because we often talked about super Netbun and the Diamonds, and.
- 18:54Speaker 4: That's obviously the show, the showcase of the sport, but
- 18:58Speaker 4: that also means that we can do other things in
- 19:00Speaker 4: other areas that are really important as well.
- 19:03Speaker 1: Well done everybody involved, so good.
- 19:05Speaker 3: That was a good news story of the weekend.
- 19:07Speaker 4: The bad news story is that my netball team lost
- 19:09Speaker 4: our semi final.
- 19:13Speaker 1: Yeah, how were they? Did they care?
- 19:16Speaker 3: Oh?
- 19:16Speaker 1: Yeah, than ten minutes and move on to oh.
- 19:19Speaker 4: They had like they sat down and they were really
- 19:22Speaker 4: they My daughter in particularly sadly she's I'm not a
- 19:26Speaker 4: good loser, and neither is she, so she had tears
- 19:29Speaker 4: in her eyes. And it was really hard, right because
- 19:32Speaker 4: they put so much effort in and we had a
- 19:33Speaker 4: really good training session and we'd beaten this team last time,
- 19:37Speaker 4: but this other team just turned up and they were
- 19:38Speaker 4: better on the day. So you know, I just said
- 19:41Speaker 4: to them, put that little feeling of hurt and horribleness
- 19:44Speaker 4: and a jar, and we're going to get those jars
- 19:45Speaker 4: out the side of next year and have a look
- 19:47Speaker 4: at them and have a sniff and see how bad.
- 19:49Speaker 5: We're going to roll around in our disappointment and use.
- 19:52Speaker 4: It right now, and we're going to just use that
- 19:54Speaker 4: dispair us on. So we had a little celebration last night,
- 19:57Speaker 4: and they're really good kids, and I'm so disappointed for them,
- 20:00Speaker 4: but you know that happens.
- 20:02Speaker 1: All good life lessons, winning and losing heart.
- 20:05Speaker 3: Yep, character building.
- 20:06Speaker 2: Hey, absolutely, So you're likely to get the same team
- 20:09Speaker 2: back next year, Yes.
- 20:10Speaker 3: I am.
- 20:11Speaker 1: So are you going again? Coach?
- 20:13Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, totally?
- 20:14Speaker 1: Are you? Do you want to? I would love to
- 20:17Speaker 1: not be going out.
- 20:18Speaker 5: I know you want to. Oh no, I you love it?
- 20:21Speaker 1: No, when they listen to me one day, I will
- 20:24Speaker 1: be all for it. But do you do it because
- 20:26Speaker 1: you love it or because they all want you? There
- 20:28Speaker 1: a bit of both.
- 20:29Speaker 3: A bit of column, A bit of column.
- 20:31Speaker 4: Be I do love it, right, and I love I
- 20:32Speaker 4: actually think really deeply about this team and about how
- 20:37Speaker 4: responsible I am for their netball journey, right because I
- 20:40Speaker 4: feel like this sport has given me so much, so
- 20:43Speaker 4: I want to make sure that I give them all
- 20:45Speaker 4: the good things that the sport can. So there's obviously
- 20:47Speaker 4: the physical literacy and I don't want to play skills.
- 20:50Speaker 4: Oh I think so I yell a bit, which will
- 20:52Speaker 4: surprise no one. But I also, you know the things
- 20:56Speaker 4: that they learned from playing netball, teamwork, camaraderie, communication, leadership, resilience,
- 21:01Speaker 4: and that resilience got tested yesterday. So they're all kids
- 21:04Speaker 4: who Evelyn was at primary school with just about and
- 21:08Speaker 4: now they've all dispersed to different high schools, so they
- 21:10Speaker 4: all want to stay together. And it's so important because
- 21:13Speaker 4: we're sort of touched on this when we spoke to
- 21:14Speaker 4: Jess Row.
- 21:16Speaker 3: If you're in a sports team of kids who aren't
- 21:18Speaker 3: your high school, when.
- 21:20Speaker 4: Things go pear shape a high school, as they inevitably
- 21:22Speaker 4: do for just about everybody, there's this little safe group
- 21:25Speaker 4: of people who most of them aren't your high school.
- 21:28Speaker 4: So for two or three of them, they're at the
- 21:30Speaker 4: same high school, but like they've got this cocoon on
- 21:33Speaker 4: a Saturday. And you know, for my daughter, she turns up,
- 21:37Speaker 4: she umpires two games. Next year she'll probably coach juniors
- 21:40Speaker 4: and then she plays, so it's all encompassing on a
- 21:43Speaker 4: Saturday and takes them away from any other you know,
- 21:46Speaker 4: horribleness or confusion or whatever's happening at high school. I mean,
- 21:51Speaker 4: you know, for most of the kids, they're pretty happy,
- 21:52Speaker 4: but when if something bad does happen, they've got this
- 21:55Speaker 4: beautiful safe space. So I like them all being together.
- 21:58Speaker 3: And I play in a.
- 22:00Speaker 4: Country association, right, I coach in the country association, so
- 22:04Speaker 4: we can keep our teams largely together.
- 22:06Speaker 3: What about you, Carolyn.
- 22:07Speaker 2: It'll all get thrown up in the air again. I
- 22:09Speaker 2: may get some of these girls. Yeah, I've had some
- 22:11Speaker 2: of them a couple of years now, but a lot
- 22:14Speaker 2: of them first times, and I might not see them
- 22:17Speaker 2: again next year. There's we've got four teams in the
- 22:20Speaker 2: age group, and I like that. I was having this
- 22:22Speaker 2: exact conversation yesterday at our presentation day with some parents
- 22:25Speaker 2: who've got a daughter in a younger age group, and
- 22:27Speaker 2: I said, even in primary school, those friendship groups can
- 22:30Speaker 2: wax some way because they've got a one school team
- 22:33Speaker 2: and they want to keep it that way. They don't
- 22:34Speaker 2: want to go into gradings. The girls are getting to
- 22:36Speaker 2: an age where they have to do gradings and they
- 22:38Speaker 2: don't want to do that. They just want to stay
- 22:39Speaker 2: together as a social team. And I said, I get that,
- 22:42Speaker 2: but you know the advantage is that they have these
- 22:45Speaker 2: external friendships.
- 22:46Speaker 5: And then you think about it.
- 22:46Speaker 2: If you lose one of those girls and they have
- 22:48Speaker 2: to get someone in from another school, you've got one
- 22:51Speaker 2: kid there from a different school and all these other
- 22:53Speaker 2: kids who've been playing together all the time. So actually
- 22:55Speaker 2: the sort of shaking it up every year is quite a.
- 22:57Speaker 5: Nice thing for them. It freshens it up for them.
- 23:00Speaker 2: And it is a community club, not a school club,
- 23:02Speaker 2: so they should be playing with people from around the community.
- 23:05Speaker 3: But yeah, and you know, it's just horses for courses
- 23:08Speaker 3: for us. It just suits us to do it that way.
- 23:10Speaker 4: And there's not a lot of other we don't have,
- 23:13Speaker 4: you know, your association, there's a lot of kids in
- 23:16Speaker 4: your age group, but our association is not a huge
- 23:18Speaker 4: amount of kids. So yeah, and so we've got this,
- 23:21Speaker 4: you know, got our own beautiful little community, So that's good.
- 23:24Speaker 1: I'm surprised you're not sucked into coaching more teams too.
- 23:26Speaker 3: Though.
- 23:29Speaker 1: She'd be amazing. She can coach all of the teams.
- 23:33Speaker 4: No, no, And you know, I actually don't even get
- 23:36Speaker 4: us so and I don't want to do reps or
- 23:38Speaker 4: anything like that because my daughter plays and I want
- 23:40Speaker 4: to be able to watch her. And they need a
- 23:41Speaker 4: different voice, right, no matter how much I've played netball
- 23:44Speaker 4: and whatever sort of coaching, and they need someone different, right,
- 23:47Speaker 4: They can't they don't be listening to me for Club
- 23:50Speaker 4: an Red. So anyway, and my daughter's bloody do and
- 23:55Speaker 4: rap everything. At the moment she got selected in the
- 23:56Speaker 4: Far North Coast team to go and play red rugby
- 23:58Speaker 4: scene so fantastic, like if we go to another state champs.
- 24:03Speaker 4: But yeah, and coaching one team, Catherine is enough for me.
- 24:06Speaker 1: M hm sing it, sister.
- 24:09Speaker 2: You'll be coaching again next year as they get older
- 24:12Speaker 2: because they'll listen to you more.
- 24:13Speaker 3: Yeah, you will, Catherine.
- 24:15Speaker 4: So the funny thing is, Matthew, my husband started coaching Austin,
- 24:19Speaker 4: our son in under eights rugby this year, and like
- 24:22Speaker 4: we would go to training, we'd all come back home
- 24:24Speaker 4: and I would be like really pumped because we worked
- 24:27Speaker 4: on rotating a circle and doing stuff like you know,
- 24:30Speaker 4: really it's good tactical stuff. He's so frustrated because he'd
- 24:36Speaker 4: go to training with all of these ideas and coaching
- 24:39Speaker 4: eight year olds is just hurting cats, trying to stop
- 24:41Speaker 4: them chasing sparkly things and you know, stop them doing cartwheels,
- 24:45Speaker 4: and come home so frustrated. And I was like, oh,
- 24:48Speaker 4: thank god, I'm not coaching as anymore. I've done my
- 24:51Speaker 4: penance there, So Catherine, it will get better.
- 24:53Speaker 1: Good pleased to hear that. No, I know it will,
- 24:56Speaker 1: but Harper desperately wants me to keep coaching, so I
- 24:58Speaker 1: can't really not.
- 25:00Speaker 4: You have to and do you know what, it actually
- 25:02Speaker 4: gives you a good insight into what's going on in
- 25:03Speaker 4: their friendship, which.
- 25:05Speaker 1: And do you know what is the only reason, to
- 25:07Speaker 1: be fair, I'm well one of them that I'm doing
- 25:09Speaker 1: it is because I remember you saying that to me,
- 25:11Speaker 1: and that they like, they really do trust you, and
- 25:14Speaker 1: they talk to you about things that they might not
- 25:17Speaker 1: and the group, you know, you can see what their
- 25:18Speaker 1: little friends are like and the way they behave together
- 25:20Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff. It has been really
- 25:22Speaker 1: interesting and I'm glad I've been a part of that.
- 25:25Speaker 1: So yes, thank you Elizabeth for your advice. It's always
- 25:27Speaker 1: good when there's another friend or a mum that's a
- 25:29Speaker 1: few stages ahead of you with this stuff, isn't there
- 25:32Speaker 1: can prepare?
- 25:33Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 25:34Speaker 4: And you know, the best conversations we have are driving
- 25:36Speaker 4: to and from sport, right. And my rule is that
- 25:39Speaker 4: you can't have your phone in your hand in the car.
- 25:41Speaker 4: If I'm driving you somewhere, You've got to talk to me,
- 25:43Speaker 4: Which does evilyent's head in sometimes but like you get
- 25:47Speaker 4: the best conversations, and you know, a conversation that starts
- 25:50Speaker 4: out of as what do you.
- 25:52Speaker 3: Think of training?
- 25:53Speaker 4: Like what didn't you like can become a conversation about
- 25:55Speaker 4: so many other things.
- 25:56Speaker 3: So you're investing in your kids.
- 26:02Speaker 2: So I wanted to talk about something that I saw
- 26:03Speaker 2: in the press this week. It was in the City
- 26:04Speaker 2: Morning Herald and it was this thing with certainly in
- 26:08Speaker 2: New South Wales, that public primary schools are dropping out
- 26:10Speaker 2: of the regular Friday sport and they are moving more
- 26:13Speaker 2: to a gala day model, so rather doing weekly sport
- 26:17Speaker 2: because of the cost of buses in getting kids to
- 26:19Speaker 2: and from and also the requirement for there to be
- 26:22Speaker 2: a number of teaching stuff, enough teaching staff left back
- 26:25Speaker 2: at the school and those who are supervising the kids.
- 26:27Speaker 5: So the expenses on some of the schools are meaning
- 26:30Speaker 5: that the.
- 26:30Speaker 2: Schools are tending towards not participating in the weekly round
- 26:36Speaker 2: robin sport with the local schools and instead running gala
- 26:39Speaker 2: days on a couple of days each term. And I thought,
- 26:42Speaker 2: I know two women who I'd like to hear their
- 26:45Speaker 2: opinions on this matter. I also have some opinions.
- 26:49Speaker 1: I don't know what our school does, but so not
- 26:52Speaker 1: talking about sports day where they go and they wear
- 26:54Speaker 1: their uniform and they go and do sport with the
- 26:56Speaker 1: pe teacher.
- 26:58Speaker 5: Talking about the interschool sports.
- 27:00Speaker 2: In New South Wales it's called p doublesa Public schools
- 27:03Speaker 2: Sporting Associations or something, and they go and they'll you know,
- 27:06Speaker 2: there's eight schools in the district or.
- 27:08Speaker 5: Whatever, and they go around and they will play.
- 27:11Speaker 2: Certainly for netball, my daughter plays netball for the school
- 27:14Speaker 2: and they play at the same place every week, but
- 27:15Speaker 2: they do need a bust. Yeah, so this is about
- 27:17Speaker 2: the weekly sport where they're playing against other schools. So
- 27:20Speaker 2: in New South Wales, the public school it's P DOUBLESA,
- 27:23Speaker 2: which I think is public schools Sporting association, so where
- 27:25Speaker 2: they each it happens on a Friday afternoon in our instance,
- 27:29Speaker 2: and certainly our school is still participating. But you know,
- 27:31Speaker 2: it's a public school in a fairly affluent area with
- 27:34Speaker 2: a very engaged parent community, which means that there is
- 27:37Speaker 2: a lot of fundraising done for the P and C,
- 27:39Speaker 2: which allows the school to make some choices. So I
- 27:42Speaker 2: think what we're seeing is that in other areas, particularly
- 27:44Speaker 2: where people more financially stressed and then don't have the
- 27:47Speaker 2: time to contribute to the p and C and the like,
- 27:50Speaker 2: that this fundraising can't be done, and so's they're changing
- 27:53Speaker 2: to this gala day model for the sport rather than
- 27:55Speaker 2: the weekly sport.
- 27:57Speaker 4: My daughter goes, or my son now, and my daughter did,
- 27:59Speaker 4: but they went to a public primary school up in
- 28:02Speaker 4: the country and we didn't have flight out from the
- 28:05Speaker 4: sport where they went off and played against other schools.
- 28:07Speaker 4: Everything was done as a gala day and it never
- 28:09Speaker 4: occurred to me that schools in Sydney were doing it
- 28:12Speaker 4: another way. Do you find that it takes like are
- 28:14Speaker 4: they out a school for half a day or an afternoon?
- 28:16Speaker 4: And yeah, like do you lose time in traffic and
- 28:18Speaker 4: travel getting to the other schools?
- 28:20Speaker 2: Look, I would assume so. Certainly in the case of
- 28:22Speaker 2: most of the sports at primary school, they'd get played
- 28:25Speaker 2: at the one spot, so they'd go to the same
- 28:27Speaker 2: spot every week. So when my daughter was playing softball,
- 28:30Speaker 2: they were just it was walking distance down to the
- 28:32Speaker 2: field that they were playing it and the other schools
- 28:34Speaker 2: would come there. But yeah, they must lose time in
- 28:37Speaker 2: traffic and then it's like she's in the in the bees,
- 28:40Speaker 2: and the bees play after the a's, but they have
- 28:42Speaker 2: to be there in time for the a's to warm up,
- 28:44Speaker 2: and then the bees watch the a's, and then the
- 28:45Speaker 2: a's watch the b So it is the whole It's
- 28:47Speaker 2: virtually half the day gone every Friday.
- 28:50Speaker 5: So yeah, that is time time that could have been
- 28:53Speaker 5: spent in the reading and writing and arithmetic.
- 28:55Speaker 4: Well look who knows, right, So our schools up here
- 29:00Speaker 4: things are gala day. But even in the Catholic school system,
- 29:03Speaker 4: my daughter's in an AFL nine's gala day today, So everything
- 29:07Speaker 4: he's done in gala days, I think, because sometimes kids
- 29:09Speaker 4: just have to travel so far to get to places
- 29:12Speaker 4: that you can't do it in an afternoon.
- 29:14Speaker 1: And so how many gala days would you be talking about,
- 29:16Speaker 1: say a month, I'm gonna be honest.
- 29:18Speaker 4: When Evelyn was in year six, she might have had
- 29:21Speaker 4: the whole school year, I reckon she probably had twenty
- 29:24Speaker 4: five percent when she was at school for the full
- 29:26Speaker 4: week five days in a row, because every other week
- 29:29Speaker 4: she was off doing a gala day like she did
- 29:31Speaker 4: all the sports she rugby, netball, soccer, AFL.
- 29:35Speaker 2: I reckon, ye six is a bit of a gap
- 29:37Speaker 2: year though, Isn't it like they's just stop learning.
- 29:40Speaker 5: It's like we're on our way out of here.
- 29:43Speaker 2: It's all right, let's just let's just hope that we
- 29:45Speaker 2: can get them out the door without breaking any of them.
- 29:47Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think they all just kick it into
- 29:49Speaker 4: neutral and coast at home. So, but like it happens
- 29:52Speaker 4: a bit, and it's even happening at high school. But
- 29:54Speaker 4: I just think they're up here. It's just really in
- 29:57Speaker 4: a much more efficient way to do it. And yeah,
- 29:59Speaker 4: they miss more time at school, so they miss a
- 30:03Speaker 4: full day rather than the whole school having a sports
- 30:06Speaker 4: day here and there. But it probably just allows the
- 30:09Speaker 4: kids who are interested in it to do it, and
- 30:10Speaker 4: the kids who aren't interested in it, well, they don't
- 30:13Speaker 4: have to do it.
- 30:14Speaker 5: So the gala days happen on a school.
- 30:16Speaker 3: Day, yeah, totally, yep.
- 30:18Speaker 4: Yeah, and then the kids who are interested going, the
- 30:20Speaker 4: kids who aren't interested stay, but.
- 30:22Speaker 1: They'd still have a pe lesson as well throughout the week.
- 30:25Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're Wow.
- 30:26Speaker 1: So that's a lot, isn't it.
- 30:28Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a dream. I'm going to go back to
- 30:32Speaker 3: year six again. I can't do it all again.
- 30:35Speaker 4: But I read that article Carolyn, and I thought, oh, wow,
- 30:38Speaker 4: that's really bad. I can't believe that's happening. And then
- 30:40Speaker 4: I stopped and thought, I, oh, actually, what they're moving
- 30:43Speaker 4: to is the same model that we have up here,
- 30:45Speaker 4: which I know I probably need to teach you to
- 30:47Speaker 4: tell me if they think it's good or bad.
- 30:48Speaker 3: It certainly worked for my kids.
- 30:49Speaker 2: That was certainly my response to I read it and went,
- 30:51Speaker 2: this is a disaster for everyone, and then sort of
- 30:54Speaker 2: having this conversation with you and understanding that about what
- 30:57Speaker 2: happens at the country schools. But it's sort of like,
- 30:59Speaker 2: you know, if you if there is a disadvantage to
- 31:01Speaker 2: the gala day model, and that occurs if you're in
- 31:03Speaker 2: a regional school, you have other advantages of living in
- 31:06Speaker 2: a regional environment, sort of like what are the advantages
- 31:08Speaker 2: in living in the city if we're starting to take
- 31:10Speaker 2: this stuff away.
- 31:10Speaker 5: So but anyway, that's as you say.
- 31:13Speaker 2: Maybe we should ask an expert, get a teacher to
- 31:16Speaker 2: tell us.
- 31:16Speaker 3: I will say.
- 31:17Speaker 4: The thing that struck me about that article was that
- 31:19Speaker 4: someone mentioned that for kids whose parents are separated, who
- 31:22Speaker 4: go for one parent sometimes and then one parent the
- 31:25Speaker 4: other times, it's really hard sometimes to organize Saturday sport
- 31:28Speaker 4: around that. So you know, I was like, Okay, that's
- 31:32Speaker 4: a perspective that I don't have, but it's a perspective
- 31:35Speaker 4: that needs to be taken.
- 31:36Speaker 3: Into account because that would affect kids.
- 31:38Speaker 5: Who a significant number of children.
- 31:40Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean it's not even Saturday sport because
- 31:43Speaker 1: that is difficult obviously speaking from experience there, but it's anything.
- 31:46Speaker 1: If you know, Halfa mentioned doing gymnastics on a Friday afternoon,
- 31:49Speaker 1: I don't also have every second Friday afternoon, so how
- 31:53Speaker 1: does that work out? So it is it's a challenge
- 31:54Speaker 1: to try and organize for sure.
- 31:56Speaker 2: And I think the issue one of the things they
- 31:58Speaker 2: really dialed up in this article is the sort of
- 32:00Speaker 2: public school private school divide and that the private schools
- 32:04Speaker 2: are being able to invest more and more in these
- 32:06Speaker 2: incredible sporting facilities.
- 32:09Speaker 1: And the examples though, were next level, weren't they. They
- 32:12Speaker 1: were talking about some of the biggest, most expensive schools
- 32:15Speaker 1: in Sydney.
- 32:16Speaker 2: But it's interesting to see that translating at the Olympics.
- 32:20Speaker 2: At the so for instance rowing, you know, most of
- 32:23Speaker 2: the medals are won by people who have been to
- 32:25Speaker 2: private schools because those are the schools that have the
- 32:28Speaker 2: rowing programs, and so you know, again it's sort of
- 32:30Speaker 2: like it's very easy to get hysterical with the headline
- 32:33Speaker 2: and the way it's presented, and of course I did,
- 32:35Speaker 2: because you know, I.
- 32:38Speaker 5: Do what I'm told.
- 32:39Speaker 2: But yeah, the more the more you delve into it,
- 32:42Speaker 2: you go, this is much more complex than that looks.
- 32:43Speaker 2: But there is actually a push, I think, for private
- 32:46Speaker 2: schools to be opening their facilities up more to the
- 32:49Speaker 2: community and these sporting facilities. So maybe that's something that
- 32:52Speaker 2: this will get behind that push more.
- 32:53Speaker 4: Yeah, and I felt like, actually that article conflated two
- 32:56Speaker 4: very separate issues. One was sort of a trap and
- 33:01Speaker 4: infrastructure sort of issue around getting kids to them from
- 33:04Speaker 4: sport every week, and the other one was a facilities
- 33:06Speaker 4: issue at separate schools.
- 33:08Speaker 3: Right, so at private schools.
- 33:09Speaker 4: So and I thought that was interesting though, And like
- 33:12Speaker 4: in rowing, rowing has always been a private school sport,
- 33:15Speaker 4: so you're always going to get you know, your rowing
- 33:18Speaker 4: gold medals or medals coming from kids who've gone to
- 33:20Speaker 4: private schools. But there is an increasing privatization, like increasing
- 33:24Speaker 4: number of athletes who all went to private schools. And
- 33:26Speaker 4: I don't know what comes first to chicken or the
- 33:28Speaker 4: egg right, Are they good athletes because they go to
- 33:30Speaker 4: private schools or do they go to private schools because
- 33:32Speaker 4: they get the good athletes and they get they get
- 33:34Speaker 4: scholarships or whatever to go.
- 33:36Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know.
- 33:37Speaker 6: I think that's probably a completely separate issue that you'd
- 33:41Speaker 6: like to see address because you know, you want to
- 33:43Speaker 6: make sure that kids who go to public schools have
- 33:45Speaker 6: all of the ability to be able to achieve what
- 33:48Speaker 6: they want to achieve, and that's to do with funding
- 33:50Speaker 6: as well.
- 33:53Speaker 2: So we are getting very close to test season Netble
- 33:56Speaker 2: Test season. The Diamonds and the Roses first up in
- 33:59Speaker 2: three test matches and then we had the Constellation Cup
- 34:02Speaker 2: the Diamonds versus the Silver Fern in four test matches
- 34:06Speaker 2: around this country.
- 34:08Speaker 5: So the Diamonds are gathering in camp now.
- 34:10Speaker 1: Yeah, they have been in and I think they'll go
- 34:13Speaker 1: home for a bit and then they'll go back into camp.
- 34:14Speaker 1: So they'll do that a few times I think in
- 34:16Speaker 1: the lead up, depending on how much time they've got.
- 34:18Speaker 5: So what do they do? What's camp?
- 34:20Speaker 1: Well, it depends because our day camp was not fun
- 34:25Speaker 1: and one of the first things you'd do would be
- 34:27Speaker 1: having a mask on exactly you'd have a team meeting,
- 34:32Speaker 1: and they'd give you a sheet with the schedule and
- 34:35Speaker 1: you'd stick that on the room. And if you're staying
- 34:37Speaker 1: at there is and B in our dorm or whatever
- 34:40Speaker 1: you call them, you'd stick it on the wall. And
- 34:41Speaker 1: we would always put a big strapping taste strapping tape
- 34:45Speaker 1: easy for me to say, smiley face next to it,
- 34:48Speaker 1: and we would recite I love netball, I love netball,
- 34:51Speaker 1: I love netball. Well, we looked at this schedule, but
- 34:54Speaker 1: the first thing we did every time we got home
- 34:55Speaker 1: from a session is cross it off, because we would
- 34:57Speaker 1: do at least three courtwork sessions a day.
- 35:01Speaker 4: This is a day when normal plumber was the coach, right, yeah,
- 35:04Speaker 4: that's not allowed to before that yetmore they're only allowed
- 35:09Speaker 4: to be on court once a day now, oh what Yeah,
- 35:12Speaker 4: because it.
- 35:13Speaker 1: Was too much. So we were doing three sessions. We'd
- 35:15Speaker 1: do one in the morning, one after lunch, and match
- 35:17Speaker 1: play or something after dinner. So we were getting flaws.
- 35:19Speaker 4: Yes, I don't know what's worth so Catherine, like they used,
- 35:23Speaker 4: we used to get flogged. But at least the past,
- 35:25Speaker 4: the time was now they have meetings, so many meetings,
- 35:29Speaker 4: it's my understanding, and that would I mean, that's why
- 35:32Speaker 4: I don't love me.
- 35:32Speaker 2: And what happens in the meetings. Why do they talk
- 35:34Speaker 2: about it's around you'll be asked to put this bib on.
- 35:40Speaker 1: It'll be culture, it'll be I don't know, expectations. They
- 35:45Speaker 1: probably do video analysis, all that sort of stuff, So
- 35:47Speaker 1: they would they do They do more weight sessions, I'd
- 35:50Speaker 1: think now on the bad as well, so instead of
- 35:52Speaker 1: doing a court work session, they not might do a
- 35:54Speaker 1: conditioning session or a weight session or something different. But
- 35:56Speaker 1: you just can't be on court a couple of times
- 35:59Speaker 1: a days.
- 35:59Speaker 4: The probably far more scientific and technical and easy.
- 36:04Speaker 2: Really, three a day seems a lot and one a
- 36:09Speaker 2: day doesn't seem a lot. I mean, I don't know
- 36:11Speaker 2: if only there was some happy compromise between three and one.
- 36:17Speaker 2: Stacy for advice if you need it.
- 36:20Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was tough, but it was It
- 36:22Speaker 1: was always an exciting time. Having said that was always
- 36:24Speaker 1: an exciting time because you knew the internationals were coming up.
- 36:27Speaker 1: You got to be with all your mates from other
- 36:29Speaker 1: teams you wouldn't talk to all season. But I must
- 36:33Speaker 1: say every time we did get on that bus, we
- 36:35Speaker 1: flew into camera, got on the bus and headed to
- 36:37Speaker 1: the I felt nauseous.
- 36:39Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 36:40Speaker 4: And you know when I first made the Australian team,
- 36:42Speaker 4: I was roaming with Shelley O'Donnell on a like my
- 36:45Speaker 4: first domestic tour, and I was like, oh man, all
- 36:49Speaker 4: this training and she has not the worst thing about
- 36:51Speaker 4: it is a week before the test matches because all
- 36:53Speaker 4: you do is train, and then once the test matches start,
- 36:56Speaker 4: you come off your training a lot and it's just
- 36:57Speaker 4: play travel, light training, play, and so all you're singing
- 37:01Speaker 4: for is for the games to start. But I'll tell
- 37:03Speaker 4: you when in my last year with Plumbing, the lead
- 37:06Speaker 4: up to that World Cup, we would have we went
- 37:09Speaker 4: through the last few months. We would have a five
- 37:11Speaker 4: day training camp and we're on court three times a day,
- 37:15Speaker 4: and then we'd have a week off and then we'd
- 37:16Speaker 4: come back into camp for a five day training camp.
- 37:19Speaker 3: And when I went into.
- 37:21Speaker 1: Labor and we weren't drinking either, we.
- 37:23Speaker 4: Weren't drinking that's right, and so we could ever get
- 37:26Speaker 4: to the end and have a beer or a wine
- 37:27Speaker 4: to celebrate we got through. But when I went into
- 37:29Speaker 4: labor with Evelyn, I remember telling myself, if I can
- 37:32Speaker 4: warmer on session three of the day five.
- 37:35Speaker 3: For a normal plumber training camp, I could give back.
- 37:38Speaker 1: One hundred and it was literally, wasn't it. The first
- 37:41Speaker 1: few steps you're like, oh, but I knew.
- 37:46Speaker 3: I knew that my labor would be over quicker than
- 37:48Speaker 3: the five day training camp, so I knew I could
- 37:50Speaker 3: do it well.
- 37:51Speaker 1: In hope it did.
- 37:53Speaker 2: So when you first come together, you've got people from
- 37:56Speaker 2: other teams who you've been competing against. Is there a
- 37:59Speaker 2: like airing of the grievances that needs to occur before
- 38:02Speaker 2: you can transfer from your supernetble or Commonwealth Bank trophy mindset.
- 38:06Speaker 5: Into where all now one team?
- 38:09Speaker 2: Or do things just get left unseid and left on
- 38:12Speaker 2: the court pretty.
- 38:13Speaker 1: Much unseid, isn't It's generally just just a catch up,
- 38:15Speaker 1: and you always want to hear, you know, if they
- 38:17Speaker 1: had beaten you in a Grand final or something, what
- 38:18Speaker 1: did you do? How did you celebrate? What awas you
- 38:21Speaker 1: mad Monday like the victim's always good for a bit
- 38:24Speaker 1: of that and the phoenix back in the day, But no,
- 38:26Speaker 1: it was just good to be able to see them
- 38:28Speaker 1: on a level that you could have quality time with
- 38:30Speaker 1: these people, because otherwise your ship's passing in the night.
- 38:33Speaker 1: You don't go and have a chat when you're about
- 38:34Speaker 1: to play them in the game Supernetple.
- 38:37Speaker 2: The Dribblers of Australia would like to hear a little
- 38:39Speaker 2: bit more dirt than that. I mean, it's like, oh no,
- 38:41Speaker 2: everyone's really sweet.
- 38:42Speaker 4: Come on, Oh no, no, it wasn't it that everyone
- 38:45Speaker 4: was really sweet. It's just that the things that unite
- 38:48Speaker 4: you are greater than the things that divide you. Right,
- 38:50Speaker 4: So you might get on the court and cool to
- 38:52Speaker 4: smash each other in It's why She's the Cat, But
- 38:56Speaker 4: you might get on court and like, go really thank
- 38:58Speaker 4: you to stop talking and listening.
- 39:00Speaker 3: It's happened.
- 39:02Speaker 4: So you might go really hard liking your super Netball teams.
- 39:04Speaker 4: But the moment you come together like you've got another
- 39:07Speaker 4: common enemy. It's England or Jamaica or New Zealand. Right,
- 39:10Speaker 4: so you can't afford to sort of get too hung
- 39:13Speaker 4: up on what's happened in super Netball. You've actually now
- 39:16Speaker 4: got to turn your focus to playing for your countries.
- 39:18Speaker 1: But don't worry. We did bitch about them, yeah, England
- 39:23Speaker 1: and South Africa and New Zealand in particular, didn't we.
- 39:27Speaker 3: She's a beach.
- 39:28Speaker 1: That girl turns out iron and like very.
- 39:30Speaker 4: Nice as humans you'll ever meet.
- 39:39Speaker 5: Been in camp in person some stuff.
- 39:43Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything on court. Just this is just
- 39:45Speaker 1: me stalking them on Instagram. Can they look like they're
- 39:47Speaker 1: having the best time ever? How good to be in
- 39:49Speaker 1: Perth for a training camp on the beach and shopping.
- 39:52Speaker 1: I'm sure they're training.
- 39:53Speaker 2: Sure, lend them a little hat with a propeller on
- 39:55Speaker 2: the top. That right, Well, that's exciting because that is
- 40:01Speaker 2: coming up very soon. Another thing that is coming up
- 40:03Speaker 2: very soon is our live event on the twenty second September.
- 40:07Speaker 2: Now you heard the Boss tell us this at the
- 40:10Speaker 2: beginning of the episode, but you need to buy tickets.
- 40:11Speaker 2: There's not many left and the venue is making us
- 40:14Speaker 2: like close off sales a week in advance, so there's
- 40:17Speaker 2: only there's only about thirdy left, so you need to
- 40:22Speaker 2: get on board. We have special guests coming for the day,
- 40:26Speaker 2: and not just Lizen Kath and me obviously, but other actual, actual,
- 40:30Speaker 2: real special guests, and it's going to be a super
- 40:33Speaker 2: fun event. So please go to the link in the
- 40:35Speaker 2: show notes and buy your ticket. Come and join us
- 40:37Speaker 2: because this is shaping up to be a very fun
- 40:41Speaker 2: day before a very exciting test match in Sydney on
- 40:44Speaker 2: the twenty second of September.
- 40:46Speaker 1: It's just like Christ.
- 40:47Speaker 5: It is just so existence.
- 40:50Speaker 2: My daughter was telling me the other day what she
- 40:52Speaker 2: wants to wear for Halloween. It's like, for God's sake,
- 40:53Speaker 2: can we just can we have a moment?
- 40:55Speaker 3: Please?
- 40:58Speaker 5: We do have to do the most important thing.
- 41:00Speaker 2: That we do every week, and that is to acknowledge
- 41:02Speaker 2: those people out in the community who keep our game
- 41:05Speaker 2: going at the community level. I was delighted yesterday to
- 41:08Speaker 2: be able to present mel Cullen with her Scrunchy in person,
- 41:12Speaker 2: and I had Andrew, who nominated.
- 41:14Speaker 5: Her, also there. But that's a video pop up on
- 41:16Speaker 5: the socials.
- 41:17Speaker 1: On this she cry.
- 41:19Speaker 2: No, she didn't cry, but it was clearly she said
- 41:21Speaker 2: she cried when she heard the nomination.
- 41:23Speaker 5: So she she told me to wear I No, she
- 41:26Speaker 5: worried all afternoon. But she told me that she had
- 41:29Speaker 5: had a really, really.
- 41:30Speaker 2: Disappointing week at work and she put the podcast on
- 41:34Speaker 2: and she was just about to turn it off because
- 41:35Speaker 2: she'd arrived at home or the office wherever she was
- 41:37Speaker 2: on the way to and then she heard Andrew and
- 41:40Speaker 2: it meant something to her. And so everybody, Dribblers, you've
- 41:43Speaker 2: got to get nominating. Now, remember the rules are you
- 41:47Speaker 2: can only nominate one person. We have a double nomination
- 41:51Speaker 2: today and so that's a bit tricky, but we've had
- 41:54Speaker 2: a policy meeting on this. There's one scrunchy coming the
- 41:58Speaker 2: way of two ledgend and you guys are going.
- 42:01Speaker 5: To have to work out how to share it. But Cat,
- 42:03Speaker 5: do you want to read it?
- 42:04Speaker 3: No?
- 42:04Speaker 1: Oh, haven't got my glasses?
- 42:06Speaker 5: Okay, do you wear glasses? Okay?
- 42:10Speaker 2: So this is from a good friend of the podcast, Kate,
- 42:14Speaker 2: and I don't know how to is it?
- 42:15Speaker 5: Yo?
- 42:15Speaker 3: What?
- 42:15Speaker 5: I don't know how to pronounce your surname, Kate. I'm sorry.
- 42:19Speaker 2: Heydribled is happy to send a voice message, but can't
- 42:21Speaker 2: find how to do so. Now this has been a
- 42:24Speaker 2: I'm going to do another little video that we put
- 42:26Speaker 2: up so you can find out how to do it.
- 42:27Speaker 2: My nomination for win Beneath our Wings is two women,
- 42:30Speaker 2: Liz Upton and Carmel Right. I've known these ladies for
- 42:33Speaker 2: over twenty five years as stallwarts of the white Horse
- 42:36Speaker 2: Netball Association umpires and conveners. They've also volunteered for Kestrels,
- 42:40Speaker 2: Vixen's Collingwood and now Mavericks seamlessly managing back of house
- 42:45Speaker 2: for all these clubs over that whole time. They are
- 42:48Speaker 2: endlessly positive, supportive, kind and hard working netballing Whitehorse and
- 42:52Speaker 2: in Victoria would not be as successful without these two women.
- 42:55Speaker 2: And white Horse has produced two Vixen stars, Alyssa McLoud
- 42:58Speaker 2: and Kate Eddie. So these women are ugly important. So
- 43:01Speaker 2: we would like to say that Liz Upton and Carmel Right.
- 43:04Speaker 2: Although this does break our rule of it has to
- 43:06Speaker 2: be a single person nomination, we agree with Kate. This
- 43:09Speaker 2: sounds like you are doing some bloody awesome stuff for
- 43:12Speaker 2: the community. So thank you. You are the wind beneath
- 43:15Speaker 2: our wings. We will be sending Kate one scrunchy, and
- 43:20Speaker 2: between the three of you, we'd love for you to
- 43:21Speaker 2: let us know how you are going to manage these
- 43:24Speaker 2: scrunch It sounds it sounds like organizing stuff is no
- 43:26Speaker 2: problem for you. Well maybe if.
- 43:28Speaker 1: They did it like a ponytail each and then put
- 43:30Speaker 1: the scrunchy around beautiful and then just stay together.
- 43:33Speaker 2: All there are some people who are really good at braiding.
- 43:35Speaker 2: You could braid two people together like that.
- 43:38Speaker 5: I'm sure or I'm thinking now.
- 43:40Speaker 2: This is terrifying to you, but I'm going to say
- 43:42Speaker 2: Google Docs, Yeah, they can cut it off stuff.
- 43:46Speaker 5: They'll work it out anyway.
- 43:48Speaker 2: So thank you, and please everybody hit us up with
- 43:51Speaker 2: your nominations for Wind Beneath a Wings. We actually know
- 43:54Speaker 2: one hundred percent for sure, there is absolutely no doubt,
- 43:57Speaker 2: money back guarantee. There are volunteers around this country who
- 44:01Speaker 2: are keeping our game alive. We know that the winter
- 44:03Speaker 2: season is at an end, but there's a summer season
- 44:05Speaker 2: starting also.
- 44:06Speaker 5: No one rests.
- 44:07Speaker 2: From netball in order to get next season on track.
- 44:10Speaker 2: People are working hard at this now. So please have
- 44:13Speaker 2: a think about who to nominate and send us those
- 44:15Speaker 2: nominations because we've got some of these amazing scrunches to share.
- 44:18Speaker 2: Dribbler's another wonderful week. Thanks so much for getting involved
- 44:21Speaker 2: on the Facebook page on Instagram. Send us the nominations,
- 44:24Speaker 2: keep letting us know what's happening with your netball.
- 44:27Speaker 5: Comps around the country. It's been fantastic to see.
- 44:29Speaker 1: That and keep the Wind Beneath My Wings Nominations coming
- 44:33Speaker 1: in people because we need them, and.
- 44:35Speaker 5: Come to our event. We want to meet you. I'm
- 44:37Speaker 5: Carolyn Swindell.
- 44:38Speaker 1: I'm kath Cox and I used to work at.
- 44:40Speaker 3: Darley Lizellis, and I used to be check out chick.
- 44:47Speaker 5: Bye.
- 44:47Speaker 2: Now I have a grye are bye