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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 112 | Morning Takeaways after Jaguars Fall to 2-8 in Loss to Vikings · Jags A.M.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome in the jag Zam this mondayn Conuntie Stevens,
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Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, and John Oser are with me. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: recap Jaguars Vikings, which was another disappointing defeat but was unique.
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Speaker 1: I will give them that. We'll start off with big
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Speaker 1: thing number one, too much, too much time on the
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Speaker 1: field to the defense. The defense holding the Vikings to
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Speaker 1: four field goals in that game, didn't let him in
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Speaker 1: the end zone, and but they were on the field
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Speaker 1: the majority of the game. Mac Jones talked about how
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Speaker 1: much the defense played well enough to win.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, uh, the defense played great and the offense,
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Speaker 2: you know, we gotta do better and starts with me
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Speaker 2: and those guys fought though, and I really appreciate the
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Speaker 2: team were having my back. Just gotta learn them from it,
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Speaker 2: no excuses, And yeah, I definitely wanted a different result,
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Speaker 2: but I'm gonna keep.
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Speaker 1: Fighting, fran And they may have given up a lot
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Speaker 1: of yards, there's a lot of plays, but that's about
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Speaker 1: the ceiling for this defense. They played about as well
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Speaker 1: as they could not letting the Vikings and end them.
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Speaker 1: They still couldn't come away we win.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, look if I had said three plus four on
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Speaker 3: tomorrow's headlines today last Thursday meeting, the Jaguars would give
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Speaker 3: three takeaways and hold this Vikings offense to four field goals,
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Speaker 3: you would have said win all day long. They did
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Speaker 3: give up too many yards, but that's what they do.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we know that this defense is trending towards
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Speaker 3: being one of the worst in terms of total yards
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Speaker 3: allowed in Jaguars history. So I think that what we
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Speaker 3: saw yesterday was them at the very top of their
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Speaker 3: ability level. And I give them a lot of credit.
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Speaker 3: You know, they were on the field all day John
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Speaker 3: forty two minutes and nineteen seconds, the most by any
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Speaker 3: defense at any game this season. And I think going
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Speaker 3: back a couple of years, man, they kept playing no
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Speaker 3: matter how tired they were.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they've done that last couple of weeks.
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Speaker 5: The one thing you would have wished is that theyby
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Speaker 5: got a couple of the turnovers in plus territory, because
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Speaker 5: when you get those turnovers and your en zone, you're
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Speaker 5: saving touchdowns. But the way this offense plays, not knock
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Speaker 5: on the defense, but the way this offense played yesterday,
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Speaker 5: they were gonna need plus territory turnovers to create points.
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Speaker 4: Couldn't get those.
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Speaker 5: You kind of wonder if that Cisco interception had held,
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Speaker 5: if you hadn't had the penalty. Now they're in plus territory.
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Speaker 5: That might have tipped the scales and been you know
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Speaker 5: so much. The Vikings couldn't come back from it. But yeh,
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Speaker 5: accredit to the defense. We've been talking all year about
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Speaker 5: the making big plays and big situations.
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Speaker 4: They did it.
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Speaker 5: They almost doubled their takeaway total for the season. So
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Speaker 5: good on them. Not good on the offense.
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Speaker 1: Complimentary football the name of the game. Our second big thing,
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Speaker 1: too little. Didn't see enough from the offense in this matchup.
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Speaker 1: Mat Jones starting at quarterback for an injured Trevor Lawrence,
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Speaker 1: just couldn't quite get it done.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I gotta get the scout team reps
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Speaker 2: and felt prepared. Everyone was on the same page for
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Speaker 2: the most part during the week. And yeah, it's been
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Speaker 2: a year or so. USES been playing my whole life
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Speaker 2: and played a lot of football in this league, and
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Speaker 2: I know what I gotta do to win, and today
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Speaker 2: what I put on the field wasn't good enough. So
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Speaker 2: I just got to keep working and do everything I
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Speaker 2: can to stay you know, motivated. And confident and leave
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Speaker 2: the team as best I can. You know, with Trevor
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Speaker 2: being out John.
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Speaker 1: We talked a lot about this team starting slow was
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Speaker 1: the inverse. Yesterday they scored early and then couldn't get
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Speaker 1: anything going after the fact, and Matt Jones didn't help
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Speaker 1: himselves turning the ball over three times and the end
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Speaker 1: of the game and kind of losing any chance that
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Speaker 1: the Jags had at this. But what is going on
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Speaker 1: and what does this say about the offense with this
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Speaker 1: happening again with a different quarterback.
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Speaker 5: Well, it does you It's it's not a great offense.
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Speaker 5: And when you put a backup quarterback game with not
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Speaker 5: a great offense, these are gonna be the results. Most
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Speaker 5: of the time. Mac Jones was never going to lift
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Speaker 5: the offense. I didn't think, Brian. I mean, it was, uh,
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Speaker 5: you wanted him to come in and have it functioning.
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Speaker 5: I think what happened yesterday was they played a very
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Speaker 5: very good defense. They were able to I don't want
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Speaker 5: to say sneak up on it's not fair, but they
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Speaker 5: got something going early and the Vikings adjusted and you
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Speaker 5: saw how good the Vikings defense is against an offense
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Speaker 5: that had flaws. They have a top quarterback obviously didn't
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Speaker 5: have Christian Kirk Bigsby was out.
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Speaker 4: You're down a couple offensive linemen.
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Speaker 5: It's not a great offense, and yesterday a great defense
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Speaker 5: shut it down.
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Speaker 3: My complaint with this offense KAI is that it has
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Speaker 3: no identity.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 3: I mean yesterday when the Jaguars were able to slow
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Speaker 3: down Justin Jefferson the long drive, right the seventeen play drive,
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Speaker 3: they converted four third downs, all of them to TJ. Hockinson.
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Speaker 3: The tight end didn't matter how the Jaguars adjusted. That's
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Speaker 3: what they do. They know how to do that. Well.
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Speaker 3: When you look at the Jaguars offense, what do they do.
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Speaker 3: Do they send the ball down the field to Brian
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Speaker 3: Thomas Jr.
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 3: Do they move the ball to their tight end effectively?
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Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 3: They run the ball effectively?
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Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 3: And I get it. You can talk about the players
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Speaker 3: who are out, but Doug Peterson's not going to stand
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Speaker 3: up and make that excuse in front of the media.
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Speaker 3: They just don't do anything well enough to be able
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Speaker 3: to play consistent football.
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Speaker 1: Our final big thing is going to be too bad
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Speaker 1: because at this point in the season, the team is
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Speaker 1: two and eight and Brian we had all these high
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Speaker 1: hopes coming into the year. I think obviously it was
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Speaker 1: progressing this way. They're not completely eliminated from the playoffs,
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Speaker 1: but this seems like a lost season at this point,
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Speaker 1: and it's just really unfortunate that it's gotten to this point.
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Speaker 1: And felt like you addressed some of the changes in
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Speaker 1: the offiction.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, do you hear my haunted I'll just say this.
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Speaker 3: You know, when there's been moments where the offenses look
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Speaker 3: good and they've lost, and moments when the offense looked bad,
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Speaker 3: and yesterday we saw that they lost. Same thing on
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Speaker 3: the defense where they have given up big plays and lost,
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Speaker 3: and then yesterday when they play at the top of
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Speaker 3: their capacity it appears and lose it. It's just too
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Speaker 3: bad they couldn't put some of those together and find
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Speaker 3: a way to grab a couple of these wins at
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Speaker 3: the end. Just a few of them, right, I think
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Speaker 3: there's been six by five points or less. Take three
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Speaker 3: of those back, and you're not a winning team at
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Speaker 3: this point, but you're close enough to be able to
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Speaker 3: talk about potentially playing meaningful games after Thanksgiving. Just half
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Speaker 3: of those close losses.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I guess I'm not as frustrated. I'm not
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Speaker 5: as frustrated with the close losses as a lot of people,
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Speaker 5: because it became apparent pretty early they were gonna lose
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Speaker 5: close games, and that's what they are in the NFL.
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Speaker 5: If you don't win those games, it's because you're deficient
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Speaker 5: in certain areas where.
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Speaker 4: You're not making those plays.
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Speaker 5: They don't have players who make plays like that. And
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Speaker 5: I'm not trying to be overly critical. I'm not saying,
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Speaker 5: you know, I'm not saying guys stink. But they haven't
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Speaker 5: done that all year. They've lost six games by five
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Speaker 5: points or less than the final minutes. They're a team
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Speaker 5: that loses close games in the final minutes. And I
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Speaker 5: think in the next couple of weeks, when you've got
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Speaker 5: really good teams on the schedule, they're gonna have to
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Speaker 5: have heavy lifts to beat those teams.
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Speaker 4: I think they're two and eighteen.
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Speaker 1: All right, stalees here on Jagzam coming up after the break,
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Speaker 1: We're gonna look at the tape as we look back
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Speaker 1: jag Dam this morning. A frustrating loss again for the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars against the Vikings on Sunday. We're gonna look at
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Speaker 1: some of the tape and go over what we think
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Speaker 1: went well and what we think went wrong. So let's
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Speaker 1: start out early. Josh Heinz Allen taking on Cam Robinson.
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Speaker 1: That was a matchup we were gonna keep our eyes
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Speaker 1: on as those two have gone up against each other
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Speaker 1: in practice for quite some time. But I think they
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Speaker 1: both had said this was probably the first time they've
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent gone on each other because in practice
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Speaker 1: you never kind of go full boar. But pretty early
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Speaker 1: on Josh Hinds Allen was getting after it. So that
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Speaker 1: was out bright side of the defense, just like that
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Speaker 1: was the plan after all. Kind of pushing Cam out
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Speaker 1: of the way early on and then the catch early.
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Speaker 1: That was my concern when they went to Justin Jefferson early,
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Speaker 1: I was like, is this going to be a continued
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Speaker 1: issue because we saw Josh get in the backfield they
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Speaker 1: couldn't finish and get to Donald and then for him
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Speaker 1: to roll out and kind of connect and that if
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Speaker 1: there was agreements with the you know, the pressure on Donald,
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Speaker 1: they didn't finish very often. It was more of a
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Speaker 1: pressure rushing forcing him to throw it, but not not
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Speaker 1: a lot of sacks.
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Speaker 5: Well, when a quarterback is if the quarterback gets rid
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Speaker 5: of the ball time like, it's gonna be hard to
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Speaker 5: blame the defense for not getting sacked if they're obviously
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Speaker 5: set up to do that. I thought he did a
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Speaker 5: nice job of getting rid of it. They clearly harassed
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Speaker 5: Donald to where he couldn't do things in big situations
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Speaker 5: that he wanted to do. It felt to me like
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Speaker 5: an effective pass rush. Brian it was, and you know,
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Speaker 5: they knew they would have to give up some things.
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Speaker 5: They wound up giving a lot to Hockinson, but I'm
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Speaker 5: sure at some point during the week they said, hey,
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Speaker 5: if we're going to give things up, let's make sure
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Speaker 5: Hockinson beats us and not Justin Jefferson. It's probably sound
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Speaker 5: thinking it was effected.
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Speaker 3: It was affective because Justin Jefferson never had time to
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Speaker 3: work his way open. I mean that the pressure when
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Speaker 3: when he tried to set up deep, the pressure was
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Speaker 3: on him quickly. When he was successful, it was Hawkinson,
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Speaker 3: hocketson Hockins and Oliver Hawkinson just to the tight ends.
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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at that one touchdown drive for
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars yesterday. Tank getting injured early on in the
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Speaker 1: drive led to Etn and then some other characters kind
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Speaker 1: of playing in that had been playing hurt as well,
9:25
Speaker 1: gave Davis and then of course Mac Jones getting his
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Speaker 1: first start. But when you saw this early, at least
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Speaker 1: I was hopeful because obviously Tank went down. You never
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Speaker 1: want to see that. But then Etn comes right in.
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Speaker 1: He seems to be at a point now where his
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Speaker 1: injury is not as troublesome for him, so for him
9:39
Speaker 1: to step in and get you some big games and
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Speaker 1: play well. And then gave Davis, who's also been hurt,
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Speaker 1: gets a catch later in this drive. And then also
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Speaker 1: just you know, as stagnant as the offense has been early,
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Speaker 1: this was refreshing to see.
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Speaker 3: If if they were going to have anything work, they
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Speaker 3: were going to have to have guys like Etn and
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Speaker 3: Gabe Davis, who had not played well in recent weeks
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Speaker 3: up to help the backup quarterback. And on this drive
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Speaker 3: they did. And Macto, yes they did. Maxwell's getting the touchdown.
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Speaker 1: Very hype about that, I'm sure, but after that, John,
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Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about this. Minnesota really kind
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Speaker 1: of just clamped down after that, seeing what the situation was,
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Speaker 1: and Brian floor is adjusting to it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I thought the play too, gave Davis sort
10:21
Speaker 5: of talked a little bit about maybe what Doug was
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Speaker 5: trying to say yesterday about why Brian Thomas Junior didn't
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Speaker 5: get the ball. More it appeared that Mac looked at
10:30
Speaker 5: Brian Thomas Junior on the outside and then found Gave
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Speaker 5: Davis coming open underneath. You would have wished they'd have
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Speaker 5: found Maria's coming upen underneath, but it was it was
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Speaker 5: difficult to get the ball to gave Davis. Yesterday, I
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Speaker 5: mean to Brian Thomas Junior to stay in that capacity. Look,
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Speaker 5: I said as of the show, it felt to me
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Speaker 5: like the Jaguars were able to take advantage of when
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Speaker 5: Minnesota was trying to figure this team out, and then
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Speaker 5: once Minnesota figured him out, it becomes tough. If good
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Speaker 5: offenses can ad just what the defense does. Middling offenses
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Speaker 5: with backup quarterbacks have a tough time doing that. And
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Speaker 5: that to me, Brian, I thought that defined it yesterday.
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Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Let's look at some of these interceptions because we haven't
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Speaker 1: seen a ton of turnovers forced by the defense, but
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Speaker 1: a luik and getting in interception. Early Johnny talked about
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Speaker 1: some of these interceptions not necessarily getting great field position,
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Speaker 1: and while that helps to take away a touchdown, this
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Speaker 1: is one of the ones closer to middlefield. Closer to midfield,
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Speaker 1: I guess.
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Speaker 5: I'm not complaining about the turnovers. They had to happen.
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Speaker 5: They were huge plays. That was not men at all
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Speaker 5: to be a knock on how the defense played. But
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Speaker 5: sometimes that turnover stat Brian is you it often creates points.
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Speaker 5: The turnover stats right when they're deep in your territory,
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Speaker 5: it doesn't have that effect, but it certainly keeps points
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Speaker 5: off the board.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So they were playing on their heels, essentially, they were
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Speaker 3: just trying to hang in. There was a great play
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Speaker 3: by Tyson Campbell, who had an outstanding day working against
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Speaker 3: the game's best receiver. It was the drag wars just
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Speaker 3: like holding allo, and that's the difference. This is a
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Speaker 3: team that's holding on and trying to find a way
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Speaker 3: against teams that don't Well, they don't have to back down.
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Speaker 3: They can just keep coming.
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Speaker 1: Let's come back, Let's take a look at bust aground
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Speaker 1: got an interception, and he's someone that I said wasn't
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Speaker 1: getting enough. I decided wasn't. Yeah, because I'm in charge,
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Speaker 1: I decided wasn't getting enough playing time. And I looked
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Speaker 1: at the plays on the game sheet yesterday and he
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Speaker 1: about split time with Darby, which is better percentage than
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Speaker 1: what we saw the week before. And he comes through
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Speaker 1: and gets the interception in the end zone, and I think,
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Speaker 1: for I've just been impressed with what Monterk has done.
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Speaker 1: I like to see him on the field more so
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Speaker 1: in terms of him having the success. It couldn't have
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Speaker 1: been more happy.
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Speaker 3: If you want to feel good about some young players,
12:52
Speaker 3: he's won. I've said it seven times. I'll say it
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Speaker 3: to night. Trey Prince is another one that you hope
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Speaker 3: by next year is making this kind of a move
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Speaker 3: into the lineup and a guy that you can count on.
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Speaker 3: Monterrey Brown has earned the right to be on the
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Speaker 3: field more often. You were correct.
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Speaker 4: Here's what she liked about Montero. He's not perfect.
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Speaker 5: I don't think he's a pro Bowl level corner, but
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Speaker 5: when he gives something up, it doesn't affect him moving forward.
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Speaker 5: He keeps playing hard what you have to do as
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Speaker 5: a young player. It's what you have to do as
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Speaker 5: a cornerback in this league, frankly, because you're not gonna
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Speaker 5: play perfectly. I thought the pass rush deserved a little
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Speaker 5: credit on that Donald interception. There looked like there may
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Speaker 5: where they got to him on that play. Looked like
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Speaker 5: it affected him a little bit through, a little bit behind,
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Speaker 5: and Montera did what you have to do.
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Speaker 4: Defensive backs rarely.
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Speaker 5: Intercept good passes, but they have to be there when
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Speaker 5: it's a bad pass, and Montera did a nice job
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Speaker 5: of Again, so few times this year have they taken
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Speaker 5: advantage of opportunities, and they did yesterday.
13:55
Speaker 1: Donald Savage got an interception and then we saw Kim
13:57
Speaker 1: Robinson coming a little late with a hit. Got a
13:59
Speaker 1: flag on that as well. For safety play that we
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Speaker 1: have thought has not been good in this game. They
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Speaker 1: came across and obviously forcing turnovers is always big, but
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Speaker 1: I think Darneld Savage, who played one hundred percent of
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Speaker 1: the plays on defense, came through big.
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Speaker 5: Here Again, you could tell they're not a perfect pass
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Speaker 5: from my angle deep in the press box.
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Speaker 4: As soon as they let the ball go, you thought
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Speaker 4: this should be a pick.
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Speaker 5: But so many times this year that play has been
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Speaker 5: a throw your pen down.
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Speaker 4: Oh man, they almost had it.
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Speaker 5: They did it yesterday, and that's where the defense deserves credit.
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Speaker 4: They given opportunities, they made play.
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Speaker 3: Sam Donovan's had a really good year in reclaiming his
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Speaker 3: career in Minnesota. He had a really bad day.
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Speaker 1: He did not have a great day. This was not
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Speaker 1: helpful for that comeback story, and we have to get
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Speaker 1: to it. At the end of the game. Mac Jones
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Speaker 1: fumble and two interceptions ended up costing them on offense. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think this one might have been a miscommunication with
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Speaker 1: him Mitch Morse there, but you know, no excuses. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: they've been working together all week and all seasons since
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Speaker 1: he got here in the offseason. And then just both
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Speaker 1: of the picks. I mean, I've seen this happen with
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Speaker 1: Mac Jones before. Obviously in New England, the frustration factor
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Speaker 1: is always going to be there.
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Speaker 3: I think we'll need to We didn't.
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Speaker 1: Get our answer on what happened on the last play,
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Speaker 1: but some of those balls going and gave Davis. I'm
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Speaker 1: curious where the miscommunication was on which end.
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Speaker 5: Well, I think you get a situation where your backup quarterback.
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Speaker 5: And this is the troop of Ladaback, of course, and
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Speaker 5: that's just Mac can play in control early in the
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Speaker 5: game when you're not pressured to go make a play.
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Speaker 5: Late in the game, when there was pressure to go
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Speaker 5: make a play because you're running out of time, you
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Speaker 5: had to go win some of the throws that get
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Speaker 5: forced that the starter can make harder for the backup
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Speaker 5: to make it.
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Speaker 4: That felt like that to me yesterday.
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Speaker 3: You know, in both cases there was a receiver underneath
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Speaker 3: and he wasn't willing to take that even there where
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Speaker 3: there were you know what, five six minutes left when
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Speaker 3: he threw the first interception, he was going for the
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Speaker 3: whole ball wax to day Davis, which I don't think
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Speaker 3: that's his game, certainly wasn't yesterday, though.
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Speaker 1: here on jagsam on a Monday, not a victory Monday, unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: as the Jaguars lost to the Vikings yesterday, and I'm
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Speaker 1: sure we all have many opinions today, but we're gonna
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Speaker 1: give you our hot take. So Brian Lenne, you take
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Speaker 1: us off.
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Speaker 3: I'm going with this is as bad as it gets.
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Speaker 3: You know, you are playing right now with your backup quarterback,
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Speaker 3: and you don't know when your starting quarterback is going
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Speaker 3: to be back on the field, if he's going to
16:45
Speaker 3: be back on the field this season. You're getting ready
16:47
Speaker 3: to head to Detroit where you're facing the best team
16:50
Speaker 3: in the NFC and one of the best teams in football.
16:56
Speaker 3: And you've got a team that you know, they play
16:59
Speaker 3: well on defense and they don't win. They play well
17:02
Speaker 3: on offense in some games and they don't win. I mean,
17:04
Speaker 3: it just seems as if this is the absolute worst
17:07
Speaker 3: case scenario for a season that was thought to be
17:10
Speaker 3: so much better than this. You know, I also have
17:13
Speaker 3: some reservations. You're playing without your quarterback, which means that
17:16
Speaker 3: your hot young receiver is not getting his best right.
17:20
Speaker 3: It means that your offensive line and your skill position players,
17:23
Speaker 3: you're just you're wasting the second half of this season
17:28
Speaker 3: in this circumstance. And I don't know what could be
17:30
Speaker 3: worse than that, except maybe the coach losing his patients
17:32
Speaker 3: with the media and making it seem as if it's
17:36
Speaker 3: all on fire right now.
17:38
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not sure my take is as hot as that,
17:45
Speaker 5: because frankly, I had a tough time coming up with
17:47
Speaker 5: a hot take, because you know, hot takes are usually
17:51
Speaker 5: when you're sort of angry and frustrated, and I guess
17:53
Speaker 5: I'm not that frustrated the team anymore because I kind
17:57
Speaker 5: of see what they are. So it's a weird, frustrating season.
18:00
Speaker 5: This was a new level of weird and it's kind
18:02
Speaker 5: of obvious. I feel bad about the hot take, but maybe.
18:06
Speaker 4: I had a bad day too.
18:07
Speaker 5: But it was the weirdest game because you didn't really
18:12
Speaker 5: feel Brian, like I didn't walk out of that game thing.
18:15
Speaker 5: And they deserve to win, No, they played well enough
18:18
Speaker 5: to win in spots and four hundred yards to one
18:23
Speaker 5: hundred and forty.
18:24
Speaker 4: It was one.
18:26
Speaker 5: I guess the saving grace is we won't forget that one,
18:30
Speaker 5: and there'll be some games coming up that I'll bet
18:32
Speaker 5: we forget because it feels like what you're talking about,
18:34
Speaker 5: it's going to be a little bit of a lost
18:38
Speaker 5: time because there's nothing to hang your hat on. Even
18:41
Speaker 5: writing that game last night, right, there's no Trevor Lawrence
18:44
Speaker 5: who sorted the identity of the team, So it just
18:47
Speaker 5: sort of feels like, eh, and move on.
18:52
Speaker 3: Listen. I walked from the Upper West Club over here
18:54
Speaker 3: to do postgame radio, and it took me twenty five
18:57
Speaker 3: minutes to get here yesterday because so many people wanted
19:01
Speaker 3: to stop and talk, and the underwriting that's you talking.
19:06
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no. I didn't know. I
19:08
Speaker 3: knew none of these people, right, Sometimes I know some
19:10
Speaker 3: of the folks. But the point was they kept asking
19:13
Speaker 3: what could go wrong next? And I didn't have an answer.
19:19
Speaker 1: Say, you're saying as bad as it gets, I hope you.
19:21
Speaker 3: Are for right, So I didn't have an answer for it.
19:23
Speaker 1: It can go sou Mine was about Mac Jones starting yesterday.
19:27
Speaker 1: I think that proved a lot to the team, and
19:29
Speaker 1: we talked about this earlier a little bit. But there's
19:32
Speaker 1: no identity for this team. There's nothing you can hang
19:35
Speaker 1: your hat on other than maybe Trevor Lawrence's consistency or
19:37
Speaker 1: at least his level of you know, kind of his
19:40
Speaker 1: control over the team and his knowledge of the team.
19:42
Speaker 1: Because there's no consistency there. There's nothing you do well,
19:44
Speaker 1: there's nothing you can say, Hey, we can do this,
19:47
Speaker 1: no matter what I know, we can do this. And
19:49
Speaker 1: with Mac Jones in the game, you can't say that
19:51
Speaker 1: it's just Trevor's felt. You can't blame the quarterback because
19:53
Speaker 1: there's nothing around him that's really working either. And whether
19:56
Speaker 1: that's something you need to change with the scheme, something
19:59
Speaker 1: you need to change in terms of personnel or what
20:01
Speaker 1: it is going forward. Nothing quite working right now.
20:05
Speaker 4: So stay with us.
20:06
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to you what's going on the rest
20:08
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20:27
Speaker 3: What was the play? What was supposed to happen on
20:30
Speaker 3: the final Mac interception if he didn't get hit grow
20:33
Speaker 3: the pick?
20:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going to go through the details of
20:36
Speaker 1: the play because you guys wouldn't figure it out. But
20:39
Speaker 1: we're going to look at the tape tomorrow and and uh,
20:41
Speaker 1: we'll make those corrections Doug Peterson yesterday when asked about
20:47
Speaker 1: that final play, that interception that Mac Jones through and
20:50
Speaker 1: didn't quite get a clear answer on that, Brian, but
20:52
Speaker 1: maybe we'll get one today. No.
20:55
Speaker 3: I I listened that when I when I heard him
20:59
Speaker 3: say that, I went, oh, boy, cause now he's part
21:02
Speaker 3: of the story, right, And it's the frustration. And I
21:06
Speaker 3: get it, it's an emotional game, but that was the
21:09
Speaker 3: one that made me go. And I don't think it's
21:11
Speaker 3: gona get worse than this. I think this is the
21:13
Speaker 3: low point of the season.
21:14
Speaker 5: Yes, somebody asked me what I thought of his interaction
21:17
Speaker 5: with media.
21:18
Speaker 4: I said it, I think we have a frustrated head coach. Yeah,
21:23
Speaker 4: I'd be frustrated too.
21:24
Speaker 1: Frustration all around.
21:26
Speaker 3: I think that's fair to say.
21:27
Speaker 1: We will be back with you, frustration or not on Wednesday,
21:29
Speaker 1: as this team gets ready to take on the Lions
21:32
Speaker 1: before they're bye week. So we'll see you on Wednesday morning.