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Gorgeous Mom Missing Just Days before Son's 11th Birthday · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A gorgeous young mom goes
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Speaker 1: to her son's ball game, but she leaves at halftime.
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Speaker 1: She's never seen again. Now as her apartment building video
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Speaker 1: surveillance seemingly reveals her leaving and going to the game
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Speaker 1: with her little dog shilling behind. Then the dog is
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Speaker 1: found wandering alone. None of this is making any sense.
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Speaker 1: Where is Hidi? Crime Stories with Nancy Grace? Just so
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Speaker 1: you know, her little boy, the one that was playing
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Speaker 1: the game, will turn eleven tomorrow. Nobody wants their mom
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Speaker 1: missing on their birthday. First of all, take a listen
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Speaker 1: to this where are you? That was the last communication
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Speaker 1: Heidi Plank's ten year old son had with his mom
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Speaker 1: eleven days ago. I said, can you please call me back?
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Speaker 1: You haven't called me back in two days in a row.
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Speaker 1: This is security tape, but with Mom from Palms with
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Speaker 1: her dog named seven, on her way to her son's
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Speaker 1: football game Sunday, October seventeenth. She's leaving her house, She's
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Speaker 1: got the dog following behind her, She's got a tiny
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Speaker 1: little purse under her arm, and she jumps into her
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Speaker 1: range rover and drives away. You were hearing our friends
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Speaker 1: at Kay cl nine. Can you imagine your child saying, Mom, Mom,
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Speaker 1: why won't you call me back? Mom? That is breaking
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Speaker 1: my heart again. Her little boy bond is Tanny turns
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Speaker 1: eleven tomorrow, and I know his wish, his birthday wish
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Speaker 1: is find my mom. And that's exactly what we're going
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Speaker 1: to try and do with me an all star panel
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Speaker 1: to make sense of what we know right now about
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Speaker 1: the disappearance of Heidi Plank. You know there's movies and
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Speaker 1: true crime and books written about missing people all the time,
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Speaker 1: summer true summer fiction. You never want your name to
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Speaker 1: fill in that blank, missing Mom, Heidi Plank. But that's
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Speaker 1: where the family is joining me. High profile lawyer joining
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Speaker 1: us out of the Atlanta jurisdiction, Daryl Cohen, former felony
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Speaker 1: prosecutor now civil and defense attorney. You can find him
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Speaker 1: at CCA l Law CCA law dot com. Psycho analysts
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Speaker 1: joining us out of the California jurisdiction. Doctor Bethany Marshall,
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Speaker 1: psycho analysts to the stars at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com.
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Speaker 1: Lisa Daddy, a former police Looke tenant, Senior lecturer at
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Speaker 1: the Center for Advanced Policing in New Haven, Alexis Terreschuk
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Speaker 1: joining US Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter and special
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Speaker 1: guests joining us. Jim Wayne, this is Heidi's ex husband.
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Speaker 1: They're on very good terms and he actually saw her
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Speaker 1: that day at the game and witnessed her leaving at halftime.
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Speaker 1: He has the boy, he has the son right now
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Speaker 1: as he joins the search for Heidi and with me
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Speaker 1: her very best friend Danielle Nadalney, all of us joining
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Speaker 1: together right now in the search for this missing mom.
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Speaker 1: The circumstances, Alexis Terrestichu so bizarre. You just heard a
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Speaker 1: friend stating that the video shows her leaving her home.
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Speaker 1: The little dog is following along behind her, jumping up
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Speaker 1: and yapping, out of care in the world. She's got
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Speaker 1: a little pocketbook under her arm. She jumps at her
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Speaker 1: rain driver and heads off. I presume to her son's
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Speaker 1: football game that was on Sunday, and then not a trace.
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Speaker 1: What do we know, Alexis, So, that's exactly right. She's
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Speaker 1: seen on videos. She leaves her house, she gets in
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Speaker 1: her car with her dogs. Who's such a foot dog.
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Speaker 1: She doesn't she's not even holding the leak, She's just
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Speaker 1: following her all by himself. She goes to her son's
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Speaker 1: football game in Downey, California, which is, you know, twenty
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Speaker 1: miles or so away. She ended up leaving the football
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Speaker 1: game at halftime. Hold On, let me ask the ex
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Speaker 1: husband again, thank you for being with us because we
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Speaker 1: need your answers, Jim Wayne, would that mean normal for
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Speaker 1: her or she had errands or something she had to
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Speaker 1: do to come to part of the game. Well, first
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Speaker 1: of all, I want to say thank you for having
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Speaker 1: us and hosting this so maybe we can find and
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Speaker 1: helping us to find hide. It would be totally out
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Speaker 1: of character for her to leave before the end of
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Speaker 1: the game. That that that's not that's just not her.
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Speaker 1: And can I say something else to please? Yes? You
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Speaker 1: know there's is gut wrenching and is as heartbreaking as
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Speaker 1: all this is. You know, there's there's no there's no
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Speaker 1: playbook for how to you know, what to do, what
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Speaker 1: to look for, how to act, And all we know
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Speaker 1: is we have to deal with the facts. And there's
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Speaker 1: been a lot of a lot of speculation and I'm
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Speaker 1: learning every day from the detective at the LAPD that's
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Speaker 1: been assigned to this, and he's like, Jim, you just
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Speaker 1: have to stay away from speculation. So I'm learning as
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Speaker 1: as we're going every day on this, and I'm going
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Speaker 1: to try and stick to the facts that we actually know. Wow,
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Speaker 1: I have you guys. Me is Jim Wayne. This is
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Speaker 1: Heidie's ex husband. They have a wonderful relationship. Just so
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Speaker 1: you know. They co parent their little boy, Bond, who
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Speaker 1: is ten years old, turns eleven tomorrow. And he actually
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Speaker 1: saw her at Bond's football game the sunday she disappeared.
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Speaker 1: He's telling me it was very unusual for her to
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Speaker 1: leave at halftime, Alexis Terestric, I want to follow up
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Speaker 1: on that because your son, my twins, they have so
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Speaker 1: much going on, and very often I will slide into
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Speaker 1: Lucy's volleyball game or John david soccer game at halftime.
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Speaker 1: I will get there halfway through. It doesn't happen a lot,
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Speaker 1: but it happens. So I don't find that very unusual
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Speaker 1: She had somewhere she had to go, except that that
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Speaker 1: was unusual for her. She didn't normally do that, and
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Speaker 1: I find that very interesting, Alexis. And the interesting thing is,
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Speaker 1: so this was Sunday. On Wednesday, she was supposed to
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Speaker 1: pick her sign up from school, so three days now.
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Speaker 1: Normally every single day she texts him, she called them
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Speaker 1: winnies with his dad. Texts, calls, their constant communication. For
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Speaker 1: these few days, there was no communication, and this is
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Speaker 1: so out of character for her. Okay, hold on right there,
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Speaker 1: let's go to doctor Bethany Marshall's psychoanalysts joining us. She's
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Speaker 1: a star of a new Netflix hit, Bleeding Empire. Doctor
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Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, thanks for taking time to be with us
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Speaker 1: and help us find Heidi. That's very important, and I'll
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Speaker 1: circle back with you. Daryl co and former prosecutor. About
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Speaker 1: behavioral evidence, it's called routine evidence, not that it is
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Speaker 1: in any way routine or commonplace. It is evidence of behavior.
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Speaker 1: For instance, today my twins split. One has basketball practice,
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Speaker 1: one has a tutor, and I'm in constant contact with them,
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Speaker 1: getting them both, arranging everything, texting with them. That blame
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Speaker 1: to me, doctor Bethany, why he didn't hear from mom
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Speaker 1: for two days, because that really blew my mind away.
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Speaker 1: But it's because dad took him home for the football
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Speaker 1: game as planned, so that was normal for him not
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Speaker 1: to see mom for two days. Now it's time for
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Speaker 1: her to pick him up and she's not texting. That's
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Speaker 1: very unlike her. If she always texts while he's with dad,
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Speaker 1: that tells me she went missing on Sunday. That's right, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: We know that behavioral patterns are so important. I had
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Speaker 1: couples in my practice who break into a fight because
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Speaker 1: the husband came home like a half hour late, and
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Speaker 1: the breaking of the pattern was so distressing to the wife.
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Speaker 1: She thought if he dead, did he have an affair?
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Speaker 1: What else might have happened. So we human beings, we
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Speaker 1: know the patterns of our loved ones, and we know
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Speaker 1: in those patterns break. Nancy, Heidi was the mother or
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Speaker 1: is the mother of a ten year old little boy
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Speaker 1: whose birthdate is tomorrow. Think about all the patterns that
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Speaker 1: go into that. Planning a birthday party, calling the friends,
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Speaker 1: asking her son, who do you want over on your birthday?
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Speaker 1: And it's all of that has ceased for three days
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Speaker 1: on Sunday. It's important crime stories with Nancy Grace, I
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Speaker 1: want to get input from Danielle and Dalney. Danielle, you
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Speaker 1: heard what we were talking about just before we went
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Speaker 1: to air. I'm making up scavenger hints for my twins
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Speaker 1: birthday tomorrow. At the end they're gonna get their present, which,
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Speaker 1: just so you know, I've stuffed broccoli fresh broccoli and
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Speaker 1: some gift bags because I tell them they don't need
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Speaker 1: enough veggies. So that's the first present they're getting, Danielle.
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Speaker 1: They're not going to be happy about that. Point is
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Speaker 1: I've got a feeling that Heidi playing is the kind
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Speaker 1: of woman, the kind of mom that puts a lot
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Speaker 1: of thought into the birthday, and here it is she's gone.
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Speaker 1: That is not like her at all, Danielle. Now, now
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Speaker 1: it's absolutely not like her. You know, she made a
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Speaker 1: big deal. She'd made a big deal of her son's birthday.
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Speaker 1: She would make a big deal of his friend's birthdays.
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Speaker 1: So for her to be absent right now is a
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Speaker 1: very very big deal, Danielle. Tell me something I want
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Speaker 1: to hear about Heidi. When you say, like everybody on
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Speaker 1: this panel, I feel that I know and I can
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Speaker 1: tell you things about them personally that mean a lot
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Speaker 1: to me. Like I met Darryl Cohen when I was
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Speaker 1: a veteran, a Brandy prosecutor, and he was a veteran
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Speaker 1: prosecutor and everybody looked up to him, and I remember
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Speaker 1: seeing him for the first time and he had on
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Speaker 1: a pink sports coat, and I'd never seen a trial
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Speaker 1: lawyer were a pink sports coat. See, that's a long
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Speaker 1: time ago. And I could tell you details about everybody
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Speaker 1: on the staff, everybody on our panel, and all of
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Speaker 1: their wonderful professions. Tell me about her. You say she
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Speaker 1: makes a big deal about his Bond's birthday, Tell me
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Speaker 1: about it. Um, I mean she just would. It would
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Speaker 1: be she would always either take him on a trip
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Speaker 1: or just I mean always just do something big, you know,
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Speaker 1: and even like do the same for his friends. So
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Speaker 1: I you know, she was just really really generous like that.
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Speaker 1: I'm and I wanted to make sure, you know, I mean,
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Speaker 1: even with her friends. For my birthday, she like I
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Speaker 1: went to Mexico. I was in Cabo, and she flew
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Speaker 1: down for like two days to just hang out and
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Speaker 1: have dinner. Wow, because she's back to pick up Bond
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Speaker 1: because it was going to be her day, and that
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Speaker 1: was all the time she had. You know, she really really,
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Speaker 1: I am. She flew all the way back from Cabo
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Speaker 1: because she had the day with Bond because yeah it
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Speaker 1: was Bond, it was her Okay, Yeah, that's all I
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Speaker 1: need to know. This woman flies all the way back
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Speaker 1: from Cabbas and Lucas, which is a beautiful destination I've
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Speaker 1: been told because she did did not want to miss
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Speaker 1: one hour of her time with her son Bond. So
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Speaker 1: where is she as his birthday approaches in a couple
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Speaker 1: of hours. Take a listen to our cut three. This
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Speaker 1: is Stacy Butler k CL nine. Her ex husband says
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Speaker 1: Plank left their son's football game at halftime. He says
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Speaker 1: she seemed distracted. In a bizarre turn, three hours later
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Speaker 1: in downtown La, her dog was found on the twenty
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Speaker 1: eighth floor of this apartment building. Her silver Range Rover,
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Speaker 1: her purse, her personal phone, and computer all gone. If
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Speaker 1: you have seen anything, anything at all. We have a
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Speaker 1: ten year old boy at home that's looking for his mom,
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Speaker 1: and we need to find his mom. People don't just disappear.
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Speaker 1: Her friends say Plank was an attentive mother, and when
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Speaker 1: she didn't pick her son up at school later, they
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Speaker 1: were immediately concerned. When she didn't show up to pick
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Speaker 1: Bond up on Wednesday, we knew that something was wrong
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Speaker 1: and for him not to have heard from his mother
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Speaker 1: for this long, something's seriously wrong. Let me understand something
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Speaker 1: to Jim Wayne up Bob's father, Jim, what is that
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Speaker 1: building where her range rover is found in relation to her?
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Speaker 1: The Wait a minute, the range rover wasn't found. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I wasn't found. Okay, he's not found. See that's what
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Speaker 1: makes this whole thing, you know. Okay, you're right, because
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Speaker 1: her range rover, her purse, her personal phone, and a
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Speaker 1: computer all gone. Got it? So gone? Is all gone?
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Speaker 1: Is there any navigational information we could get from her
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Speaker 1: range rover? That is? You know, the police are working
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Speaker 1: on that. Sometimes people turned those devices like cell phones, laptops,
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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. They turned their electronics. You know,
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Speaker 1: she even had an Apple Watch on and all that stuff.
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Speaker 1: Is the location is shut off. Now her GPS in
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Speaker 1: the car apparently was according to ranger over, was never
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Speaker 1: even turned on. So then the only thing in this
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Speaker 1: building that traces back to her is the dog who's
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Speaker 1: found on the twenty eighth floor of this building. Correct, correct? Correct?
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Speaker 1: So again, what is this building as it relates to her?
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Speaker 1: We have no idea, no idea, Okay, Daryl Cohen, this
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Speaker 1: sounds like a mystery that you would make a movie out.
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Speaker 1: The dog turns up. Danielle Nadalnie is a dog inside
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Speaker 1: the building. The dog was inside the building. Actually think
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Speaker 1: it was on the twenty ninth floor. But yeah, I
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Speaker 1: found the dog. Somebody that lives on that floor found
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Speaker 1: the dog. It wanted around the hall of from what
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Speaker 1: we've been told. Okay, Daryl Cohen, you have her leaving
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Speaker 1: at halftime of her son's game. Now, this is a
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Speaker 1: mom who flies all the way back from Cabas Saint
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Speaker 1: Lucas so she won't miss one hour of being with
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Speaker 1: her son on her day. They have I guess a
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Speaker 1: fifty fifty split between mom and dad. She never misses
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Speaker 1: her days ever, so if she'll do that, But she
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Speaker 1: left halftime and then her dog turns up in a
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Speaker 1: residential building, or at least partially residential, on the twenty
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Speaker 1: eighth or twenty ninth floor, wandering around. Help me put
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Speaker 1: the pieces of the puzzle together, Daryl, you pardon me.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that we can put these pieces together.
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Speaker 1: At this point. Nothing makes sense. The fact that he
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Speaker 1: flew back from Cabo, say she's a wonderful mom. The
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Speaker 1: fact that she ended up not doing what she needed
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Speaker 1: to do. Did she leave that half time because something
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Speaker 1: terrible happened if you leave it have time because something unexplained, Well, obviously, Daryl,
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Speaker 1: something unexplained happened. How the dog get there? What's the
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Speaker 1: connection between her and this building, if any at all?
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Speaker 1: How do I know the dog wasn't just let out
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Speaker 1: somewhere in that building and the building has no connection
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Speaker 1: to her? It can happen. As a matter of fact.
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Speaker 1: You know, we have a frequent high profile lawyer on
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Speaker 1: a browner whose cat rides the elevator and the people
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Speaker 1: in the building let it. How do I know that
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Speaker 1: this isn't a pet friendly building and they let the
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Speaker 1: dog offer the lobby or the garage, and it somehow
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Speaker 1: ends up on the twenty eight floor with no connection
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Speaker 1: to her having ever been there. Nancy, hold it, go ahead,
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Speaker 1: jump in, Jim. If you understand this building, the building
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Speaker 1: has at least four layers of security. Just to get
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Speaker 1: to your floor. It's the front door, getting by the
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Speaker 1: big guy who sits at the desk, getting through the
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Speaker 1: double doors that gets you to the elevator, and then
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Speaker 1: getting into the elevator. And you have to use your
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Speaker 1: key card in all these different places just to get
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Speaker 1: to your specific floor. Wow, So thank god, so Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Thankfully the building is being very cooperative with the LAPD
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Speaker 1: crime stories with Nancy Grace to Lisa Daddy, a former
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Speaker 1: police lieutenant in Haven and now senior lecturer at the
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Speaker 1: Center for Advanced Policing in Haven. Lisa Daddio, do you
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Speaker 1: remember the seminal case that brought this to everyone's attention?
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Speaker 1: It was a Chandra Lee v. Case in DC the
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Speaker 1: intern and everyone believed that a politician condit had who
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Speaker 1: had been having an affair with her, had somehow killed her,
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Speaker 1: and all these crazy theories began to mount online and
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Speaker 1: everywhere else. Turned out he didn't. But when we were
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Speaker 1: trying to find her, we found out in her high
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Speaker 1: rise in DC, the video in the elevators of the
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Speaker 1: lobby would tape over after seventy two hours, so it
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Speaker 1: was all gone. We didn't know if she left to
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Speaker 1: go jogging, if she left with the person, if she
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Speaker 1: left with a friend, if a guy was following her
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Speaker 1: outside the building because it taped over. And then recently,
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Speaker 1: a beautiful young woman was murdered right in Piedmont Park,
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Speaker 1: in the center of Piedmont Park, and we find out
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Speaker 1: the video cameras that you see all over the park
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Speaker 1: haven't been working since two thousand and eight teen, so
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Speaker 1: we got to jump on that video immediately find out
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Speaker 1: that if it exists, to make sure it doesn't get
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Speaker 1: taped over. Lisa. Yeah, absolutely, Nancy. I mean, while it's
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Speaker 1: great to have, there are all these nuances with it,
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Speaker 1: and we've seen it repeatedly in the cases that you
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Speaker 1: mentioned and even in the murder of Yale graduates doing
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Speaker 1: Anni La. Yes, you know, we have all these key
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Speaker 1: cards that are needed to get in. We have video
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Speaker 1: walking into the building, but there's no video on each tour.
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Speaker 1: There's no videos and hallways and you know, thankfully their
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Speaker 1: videos are preserved, but not everybody has it, and it
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Speaker 1: usually takes a violent crime. Yeah, you're right. I'm curious too.
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Speaker 1: Alexas Terres Schuck Crime online dot com investigative reporter has
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Speaker 1: that building which has no apparent connection to hide or
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Speaker 1: her dog. Have they released a video? Have police gotten
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Speaker 1: to look at the video? Does it show her coming
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Speaker 1: in or out? The video? There is video, it has
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Speaker 1: not been released the public. It has been reported up
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Speaker 1: until now that the building was not cooperating, that they
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Speaker 1: were not going to release anything without a search warrant.
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Speaker 1: But Jim had said that they are being very cooperative,
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Speaker 1: So that's that is a different that's a change. Jerald
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Speaker 1: Cohen that that's really not uncommon, although you'd think with
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Speaker 1: a missing mom they would hand it right over. But
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Speaker 1: they probably don't want to get sued by everybody else
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Speaker 1: in that building. And the video could show your mistress
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Speaker 1: coming in. Are you leaving the building with a big
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Speaker 1: plasma TV that doesn't belong to you. I mean, you
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Speaker 1: could get sued for any number of reasons for releasing
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Speaker 1: that video. So very often you will see, like with
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Speaker 1: AT and T, with Verizon, with T Mobile was serious exam.
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Speaker 1: You have to give them a warrant for a lot
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Speaker 1: of different reasons, corporate reasons, and then they'll hand it over.
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Speaker 1: We had to do that all the time. Daryl, Well,
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Speaker 1: they're going to finally cooperate. It's not Yes, they didn't
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Speaker 1: want to cooperate. You pointed it out beautifully. I don't
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Speaker 1: want to be foods to building. So I am going
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Speaker 1: to be forced by operation of law to cooperate. When
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Speaker 1: the press, when all of the media, social media regular
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Speaker 1: beating get the ball, then they're absolutely going to immediately
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Speaker 1: you know what law shod forget it I'm not worried
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Speaker 1: about them. I've got to find yeah, I mean, Darryl,
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Speaker 1: how many times did you and or I go over
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Speaker 1: to AT and T to get landline records? And they
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Speaker 1: wanted to give it to us? But you gotta give
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Speaker 1: them the subpoena so they see ya. Nobody can sue
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Speaker 1: them because they handed everything over. Pursue it to subpoena. Yes, no, absolutely.
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Speaker 1: They don't want to turn it over because they can't
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Speaker 1: turn it over. They want to turn it over, but
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Speaker 1: they can't because everybody, as you point out, is cya
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Speaker 1: and I don't want to be sued. And if we're food,
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Speaker 1: I don't want to be the one that makes us
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Speaker 1: love the cake, which makes no ya. Right now, they
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Speaker 1: need to be pinging her cell phone that, according to
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Speaker 1: her very loving father of her son, Jim Wayne, is missing,
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Speaker 1: Her range over is missing, her pocketbook is missing. Where
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Speaker 1: is she? The cell phone needs to be triangulated to
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Speaker 1: possibly find out if it's active right now. The Apple
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Speaker 1: Watch needs to be triangulated as well. If she was
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Speaker 1: carrying a laptop or an iPad or a mini everything
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Speaker 1: including her nav her navigational information off of her range
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Speaker 1: over all of that needs to be gotten and pronto.
22:46
Speaker 1: She could still be found alive if that could be pinpointed.
22:51
Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut number five from Katla five.
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Speaker 1: She left with her dog, and she just barked up
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Speaker 1: to us and said, I'm gonna go. We're getting further
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Speaker 1: and further away from finding Heidi. Her ex husband says
23:11
Speaker 1: later that Sunday, her dog was found on the twenty
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Speaker 1: eighth floor of a high rise apartment building in downtown
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, but Heidi Plank and all other traces of
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Speaker 1: her were actually gone. People close to the missing mom
23:23
Speaker 1: say they don't know of any connections she had with
23:25
Speaker 1: anyone at that apartment building. A couple who lived there
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Speaker 1: held on to the dog for a week, unable to
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Speaker 1: get in touch with the owner. Heidi's ex husband eventually
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Speaker 1: tract a dog through its microchip. He also showed up
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Speaker 1: at the home here in mid City three days after
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Speaker 1: she disappeared and found a cell phone there. He's hoping
23:44
Speaker 1: that cell phone will be a crucial part in this
23:47
Speaker 1: investigation and help both the family and LAPD locate Heidi Plank. Okay,
23:54
Speaker 1: back to you, Jim Wayne. This is the father of
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Speaker 1: Heidi's son, Bond tell me about that cell phone. Her
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Speaker 1: cell phone, the cell phone. I went into her, her
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Speaker 1: house with Danielle and to look around. This was after
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Speaker 1: the police report was the missing person report was done.
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Speaker 1: Danielle and I went into her house. I saw that
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Speaker 1: her phone was sitting there. Danielle brought it to me.
24:25
Speaker 1: I think it was the next day she because I
24:28
Speaker 1: was trying to get a hold of friends and family
24:31
Speaker 1: for Heidi. So that's that's how I came in possession
24:34
Speaker 1: of that. I also had to turn that over to
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Speaker 1: the detectives at the LAPD so Heidi herself. That's where
24:44
Speaker 1: I got that. You did find her cell phone, but
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Speaker 1: not at the building. It was back at her home.
24:49
Speaker 1: At her home, yes, Okay, and Danielle, you were with
24:52
Speaker 1: Gim when he found the cell phone. M I. She
24:55
Speaker 1: actually had two phones, so she had a work phone
24:58
Speaker 1: and she had a personal phone, the one that was
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Speaker 1: at the house. I believe it's the personal phone that
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Speaker 1: I ended up taking over to Jim. But I had
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Speaker 1: gone to her house. I'm prior. I think maybe Tuesday,
25:10
Speaker 1: Monday or Tuesday. I'm because Bond text me and he's like,
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Speaker 1: my mom's not answering me. Have you heard from her,
25:17
Speaker 1: and I said, no, you know, she didn't respond to
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Speaker 1: me yesterday, which I mean it was a little weird,
25:22
Speaker 1: but not responding for twenty four hours is normal for me,
25:27
Speaker 1: not for her. And so he asked me to go
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Speaker 1: to the house and chat. He says, I have a
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Speaker 1: key to the house. I'm so I went over there,
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Speaker 1: and I'm one of her phones were sitting on the
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Speaker 1: pitch encounter, which is the one that I ended up
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Speaker 1: taking over to Jim after the missing person's report was filed.
25:44
Speaker 1: I'm because he wanted to see if they could find
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Speaker 1: any clues in it. So the personal phone is the
25:50
Speaker 1: one that you got from her home, correct, Sorry, Nancy
25:55
Speaker 1: is Jim. We don't know if it's the personal or
25:58
Speaker 1: the business. The police detectives have told me that was
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Speaker 1: her personal phone, according to Apple. Okay, well, I know,
26:07
Speaker 1: all right, So have you was it on or cut off?
26:10
Speaker 1: It was all her phone was on, but the location
26:14
Speaker 1: services on those on her on her phones, the laptop
26:19
Speaker 1: and her watch are all shut off. When were they
26:23
Speaker 1: shut off? I'm sorry? When were they shut off? Location?
26:26
Speaker 1: We don't know. We don't one of those another one
26:30
Speaker 1: of those mysteries. We don't know, and if the police
26:32
Speaker 1: do know, they haven't shared that with me. You know, les,
26:35
Speaker 1: it's terres shuck. You can go into your phone and
26:38
Speaker 1: go through all sorts of gyrations and cut off location services.
26:42
Speaker 1: But why would she do that on all of her devices?
26:46
Speaker 1: Was location service cut off when she went missing? So
26:51
Speaker 1: now we have one phone and we're missing another phone?
26:55
Speaker 1: Um gosh. So the police have searched her home to
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Speaker 1: warrant why because they couldn't ask her for consent. Take
27:04
Speaker 1: a listen to our cut eight from casey AL nine.
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Speaker 1: Armed with a warrant and with guns drawn, federal investigators
27:13
Speaker 1: and robbery homicide detectives from the LAPD entered the home
27:18
Speaker 1: of the thirty nine year old missing football mom. Now
27:21
Speaker 1: they went in and a source tells me that they
27:23
Speaker 1: were expecting to possibly find a dead body. That is
27:27
Speaker 1: not the case. What they're after that remains the big question.
27:32
Speaker 1: Some are wondering, speculating that if possibly what they're searching
27:36
Speaker 1: for our any documents paperwork related to Heidi Plank's business.
27:42
Speaker 1: Friends and family say Heidi Plank is working for a
27:46
Speaker 1: company that is now under a federal investigation for possible
27:50
Speaker 1: fraud charges. These federal investigators have searched high and low.
27:54
Speaker 1: They're even looking in plants that we've seen them go
27:56
Speaker 1: into the garbage searching for any clues as to why
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Speaker 1: this mom disappeared. Okay, now, wait a minute. Her company
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Speaker 1: was under investigation, not her. Take us an OURCA nine.
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Speaker 1: This is Christino Zalaz Fox eleven. A lot of the
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Speaker 1: people who know her say they're getting calls from the SEC.
28:19
Speaker 1: It seems that she was never involved in this, but
28:23
Speaker 1: people she worked with out of a company nel Segundo,
28:26
Speaker 1: were being investigated. It's a financial company, a financial advising company,
28:31
Speaker 1: and they have been investigations because of misuse of funds. Now,
28:35
Speaker 1: she was never investigated, she had nothing to do with it.
28:38
Speaker 1: But one of the principles was sentenced in twenty twenty
28:41
Speaker 1: to sometime in federal prison. That is what they're looking at. Okay,
28:45
Speaker 1: if they per was sentenced in twenty twenty, how could
28:49
Speaker 1: this possibly be related to Heidi. But it's an avenue
28:54
Speaker 1: cops have to look at. To alex As Terrestria tell
28:57
Speaker 1: me about the investigation of this busin her business that
29:01
Speaker 1: she worked for, So it was her bosses. There are
29:04
Speaker 1: two men that are in charge in this company. One
29:09
Speaker 1: of them was sentenced. He was found guilty and sentenced
29:13
Speaker 1: to one hundred and eighty nine months in jail, which
29:16
Speaker 1: is over ten years. The second man was not found
29:21
Speaker 1: was not criminally prosecuted. He is actually just being civilly
29:26
Speaker 1: prosecuted because they want to recover the funds. So the
29:30
Speaker 1: situation is is these men were accused of and this
29:32
Speaker 1: one has been found guilty of stealing about forty million
29:36
Speaker 1: dollars from a Native American tribe, and they are misused
29:40
Speaker 1: this money. They used it to fund their own lifestyles,
29:42
Speaker 1: to pay off other debts, to start new businesses. So
29:45
Speaker 1: what they're hoping to what the plan had been was
29:48
Speaker 1: by suing her boss who was who was mister Sherman,
29:54
Speaker 1: they would recover some of this forty million dollars so
29:56
Speaker 1: they could give it back to the victims. Time Stories
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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace Wazheidi a witness. Could she somehow be
30:20
Speaker 1: involved in testifying against a former boss that is now
30:24
Speaker 1: being sued to the tune of forty million dollars. Danielle
30:28
Speaker 1: Nadalney knows her better than anyone. Danielle, what was her
30:34
Speaker 1: reaction to this investigation of her financial advising company? The
30:39
Speaker 1: two guys she worked for. You know, I think that
30:42
Speaker 1: this thing started I mean recently. I mean I don't
30:48
Speaker 1: know that it was it was really at the forefront
30:50
Speaker 1: of her mind recently. You know, it started years ago,
30:54
Speaker 1: the investigation, so I believe it started years ago. So
30:58
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily something that I think was a forefront
31:00
Speaker 1: of her mind. I am Alexis terrest shut. Is the
31:03
Speaker 1: SEC the ones that are investigating. Oh well, I can
31:07
Speaker 1: tell you that Danielle and Dawney is absolutely correct, having
31:12
Speaker 1: worked along with the SEC when I was at the FTEC.
31:17
Speaker 1: It takes forever for a federal investigation of that magnitude,
31:24
Speaker 1: or of any magnitude for the FEDS to go forward.
31:27
Speaker 1: Oh my stars. The entire time I was at the FTC,
31:31
Speaker 1: I investigated the same case as the whole time, the
31:34
Speaker 1: whole number of years, either two or three years, and
31:38
Speaker 1: very rarely do you get a movement. So Danielle's right,
31:42
Speaker 1: that sounds like an investigation that had been started years before.
31:47
Speaker 1: Do you really think, Jim Wayne, you're the father of
31:51
Speaker 1: Heidi's son, do you think that has anything to do
31:53
Speaker 1: with her disappearance? Here again we have this, you know,
31:58
Speaker 1: the speculation and I don't want to speculate. I want
32:02
Speaker 1: to deal with the facts. I'm really sorry, and I
32:05
Speaker 1: know it. Okay, you know what, You're right good. Let
32:08
Speaker 1: me ask you some factual questions. Was she ever named
32:12
Speaker 1: as a defendant, not that I would know of, Okay.
32:15
Speaker 1: Was she personally sued, not that I know of. Well.
32:18
Speaker 1: She ever named as a witness either for the state
32:21
Speaker 1: for a criminal prosecution, or is a civil witness and
32:25
Speaker 1: the civil trial, not that I know of. Well. I
32:27
Speaker 1: would say, based on that Daryl Cohen, that this has
32:32
Speaker 1: nothing to do with her disappearance. I would think anything
32:35
Speaker 1: could have something to do with her disappearance. We all
32:38
Speaker 1: know our sterrible agreeing man from ours could have been
32:41
Speaker 1: down and taken her. So that is possible. But is
32:44
Speaker 1: it probable? The probability is that something came up. The
32:49
Speaker 1: probability now jumps in based on this criminal case, that
32:54
Speaker 1: maybe she was a witness, maybe they want to keep
32:57
Speaker 1: her big mouth shut civil, maybe they civil civil? Civil? Yeah, okay,
33:03
Speaker 1: And I don't know anything about her having a quote
33:05
Speaker 1: big mouth, because if she wasn't called as a witness
33:08
Speaker 1: in the criminal case, I get st our x boss.
33:11
Speaker 1: I doubt that she is of any testimonial value. In
33:14
Speaker 1: other words, she's not going to be called as a
33:15
Speaker 1: witness in the civil case if she didn't testify in
33:18
Speaker 1: the criminal case. You can bet your bottom dollar on that. Guys.
33:21
Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut number footwork, Nancy, I'm
33:25
Speaker 1: sure you would. This is Stacy Butler case. Al nine.
33:29
Speaker 1: Planks friends say the apartment building management has refused to
33:32
Speaker 1: allow them to look in the parking garage to see
33:34
Speaker 1: if possibly your subs park there. They also say apartment
33:38
Speaker 1: management won't share building security tape with police unless they
33:41
Speaker 1: get a warrant. Planks friends and family suspect foul play.
33:45
Speaker 1: It seems to us like everything stems from that building
33:50
Speaker 1: where her dog was found. I think something has to
33:52
Speaker 1: have happened to her to keep her away from her son.
33:55
Speaker 1: I reached out to the apartment building management, but I
33:57
Speaker 1: didn't get a call back by deadline. The lad says
34:00
Speaker 1: they are investigating this case. They're asking if you have
34:04
Speaker 1: any information to please contact them. I tend to agree
34:08
Speaker 1: back to Danielle, No, Dollney, this is Heidie's best friend.
34:12
Speaker 1: There has to be a reason her dog, which we
34:16
Speaker 1: see in the video yapping and chasing along behind her
34:20
Speaker 1: or as she heads off to her son's football game.
34:22
Speaker 1: There has to be a reason that her dog ends
34:26
Speaker 1: up in that building up on the twenty eighth or
34:29
Speaker 1: twenty ninth floor. Interesting, Danielle, go with me. She did
34:34
Speaker 1: not take the dog to the football game. What does
34:38
Speaker 1: this mean? This means she had to go back to
34:41
Speaker 1: her place first before she went missing, to somehow get
34:46
Speaker 1: connected to the dog. Would you agree with that, Danielle, Nancy,
34:50
Speaker 1: I actually believe Jim can confirmed. I believe the dog
34:53
Speaker 1: was with her at the football game. Okay, well you
34:55
Speaker 1: just shot my theory. But I want to know that
34:59
Speaker 1: did she did she had the dog, Jim, because I
35:01
Speaker 1: thought when she got in the car, the dog didn't
35:03
Speaker 1: get in. No, yes, Nancy, she absolutely had the dog
35:06
Speaker 1: with her. Okay, that changes things because if you think
35:09
Speaker 1: it through to doctor Bethany Marshall, that cuts out a
35:13
Speaker 1: trip back to her home. I was thinking that maybe
35:16
Speaker 1: key because one of her phones was still at the home.
35:20
Speaker 1: I was wondering, did that indicate she went back to
35:23
Speaker 1: the home. But the dog went with her to the
35:25
Speaker 1: football game, so there was no stop at home, Nancy,
35:29
Speaker 1: And that's so important. The question of did she go
35:31
Speaker 1: back home. Was that the personal phone or the work phone,
35:34
Speaker 1: because we don't know how tied she was to work,
35:37
Speaker 1: but she was tied to her son, so the fact
35:39
Speaker 1: that she would go anywhere without the personal phone is unlikely.
35:42
Speaker 1: But I want to bring up a different related subject,
35:45
Speaker 1: and that is her relationships. Sixty percent of patients who
35:50
Speaker 1: come to my office talk about nothing other than their relationships.
35:55
Speaker 1: They don't talk about their work or business problems. They
35:58
Speaker 1: talk about their children, their spouses, they're friends, the people
36:01
Speaker 1: they're dating. What were the interweaving patterns of the relationships
36:07
Speaker 1: in Heidi's life. I think that's where we're going to
36:09
Speaker 1: get the greatest clues. And was there an electronic pattern?
36:13
Speaker 1: Was she dating somebody? Was she on social media? How
36:16
Speaker 1: did she communicate with people? Did she have a love interest?
36:21
Speaker 1: These questions not only are they important, but I'm sure
36:25
Speaker 1: she communicated about them. And I know we have her
36:27
Speaker 1: best friend and husband on the show. I know you're
36:30
Speaker 1: not going to communicate everything about your dating life too,
36:33
Speaker 1: maybe a former husband, even if you're really good your
36:36
Speaker 1: best friend. What about it? Danielle Na Dalney, was she
36:39
Speaker 1: saying anyone not? At the time that she disappeared, she'd
36:43
Speaker 1: been dating somebody on and off, you know, the last
36:48
Speaker 1: few years, and at that point it had been off
36:51
Speaker 1: for about a month. Right, So they broke up one
36:54
Speaker 1: month prior to her disappearance. I'm probably I mean probably
36:59
Speaker 1: about a month. I know who did the breaking up?
37:02
Speaker 1: Her or him, her, I believe. So she broke up
37:05
Speaker 1: with him, And I'm not asking for his name, But
37:06
Speaker 1: what does he do for a living? I'm I am
37:09
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent sure about that. Give me your
37:13
Speaker 1: best guess. They've been dining for years. I know he does.
37:16
Speaker 1: He works for like he works for Facebook or something interesting.
37:22
Speaker 1: What I need is that video from that building. Okay,
37:27
Speaker 1: Lisa Daddio final thoughts. I think the building is the
37:33
Speaker 1: key to a lot of this. So as much footage
37:36
Speaker 1: as they can get, um, they have to come through it.
37:40
Speaker 1: I want you to hear this. Our cut twelve from
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Speaker 1: Carlos Herrera Katie. Las Police also now concerned with this investigation.
37:50
Speaker 1: Officers actually with the lap We're here last night serving
37:53
Speaker 1: a search warrant at that home. The LAPD is missing moms,
37:56
Speaker 1: were missing persons. Rather, you need first handled the k
38:00
Speaker 1: but is now shifted to the Robbery Homicide Division. Detectives
38:04
Speaker 1: say that transition is not because of evidence of a
38:06
Speaker 1: crime has been discovered, but because it is now considered
38:10
Speaker 1: a high profile case. To Jim Wayne, what is your
38:16
Speaker 1: message today? My message is we all need to stay
38:21
Speaker 1: away from speculation and we need to deal with the facts.
38:26
Speaker 1: If Heidi is out there, we miss her. We want
38:32
Speaker 1: her to come home. We need We've got a ten
38:36
Speaker 1: year old boy that's looking for his mommy. Daniel, what's
38:40
Speaker 1: your message? And you know my message is just that
38:43
Speaker 1: you know, if anybody's seen anything, if anybody has heard anything,
38:47
Speaker 1: she has friends miss her. It's her son's birthday tomorrow.
38:50
Speaker 1: I'm and we just want her home. Tip line two
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Speaker 1: one nine nine six eighteen hundred. Repeat two one three
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Speaker 1: nine ninety six eighteen hundred, Heidi, where are you? Nancy
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Speaker 1: Grace's crime Story signing up Goodbye friend,