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25W: Can Bo Nix Take Over the Heisman Race with a Win + Is Brock Purdy Still Underrated + Coach Klieman and Cooper Beebe from Kansas State + Lunchbox on the Kansas Entitlement · 25 Whistles with Bobby Bones (A Football Podcast)

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: To a podcast call twenty five whist stuck in punt
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  Speaker 2: Download the DraftKings app and use the code Bobby sports
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  Speaker 2: to get it on the action. It's been a pretty
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  Speaker 2: pissport sports week for us. Uh so we're gonna do
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: something positive in a minute. Oh cool, love it. We
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  Speaker 2: need it. We're all freaking losers and that's okay. I
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: was talking to one of the guys, big executives DraftKings
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: and he was like, I was listening to your biggest
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: college rivalries. I felt like it was a little SEC skewed.
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about? Texas Oklahoma is not SEC.
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  Speaker 2: They may be going to the SEC. I said, Army Navy,
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  Speaker 2: not SEC. Correct.
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: I did the Battle of the Pines steaming at Foston
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  Speaker 1: Sammuson State not SEC.
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  Speaker 2: Don't I never heard of those schools. So there you go.
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  Speaker 3: Are they real?
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  Speaker 2: They are real? So yeah, it really gets down to it,
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State, Michigan not at all. What are the ones
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  Speaker 2: that I picked though, because those are three the five
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  Speaker 2: unless I just did it, not three?
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  Speaker 4: And then you did Alabama Auburn excellent rivalry.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that's sec though, Who cares. I'm just saying the
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  Speaker 1: Draft Kings argument.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna give you a Draft Kings argument right here.
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  Speaker 2: They're being haters. But they did give me a hard
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  Speaker 2: time too about missing parlays. And I'm like, look, I say,
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  Speaker 2: here's the thing. I'm trying hard as I can, but
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  Speaker 2: you can follow me on the app and see every
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  Speaker 2: bet I make. And I'm up so the one parlor
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  Speaker 2: and we have a different philosophy this year. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to do this this week. Excuse me, but anyway, okay, but.
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  Speaker 1: But see that's the thing, Like a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: do these parlays on DraftKings. I've bet some of those
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  Speaker 1: I didn't hit a few times on some of those.
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  Speaker 1: I think there was one. Matthew Berry did one. It
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  Speaker 1: just must be way off.
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  Speaker 2: It's okay. Yeah, And if you want like the big picture,
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  Speaker 2: you can get with me and follow on the Draftings
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  Speaker 2: app and see everything.
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  Speaker 1: I bet that's right. Where are they out of? Where's
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  Speaker 1: DraftKings out of your brain? WHOA Boston?
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  Speaker 2: That's deep? Okay? So then the East Yeah, Boston.
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  Speaker 1: I we should have done Boston College versus.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's what it like, New Hampshire Yale. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So coming up later Kansas State All American offensive lineman
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  Speaker 2: Cooper BB and coach Chris Clemon. So that was awesome.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll get to that in a second. It was
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  Speaker 2: also coach's birthday while we were there. Yes, it was,
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  Speaker 2: and I wonder if you went to dinner and what
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  Speaker 2: does he on us? Were like, coach god on us,
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  Speaker 2: we'll reimbursia. So you're gonna do friends. Texas lost, that's
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: Mike D's team. It's a miserable loss. The Patriots they
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  Speaker 2: even have eleven guys Anymore, I don't think it's been
• 2:48
  Speaker 2: a bad season. A couple of weeks, I mean humiliating, Eddie. Yeah, Cowboys, Cowboys, Uh,
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  Speaker 2: they look like they did know how to play football.
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  Speaker 2: At least you've had. You're having a decent season. Though
• 2:58
  Speaker 2: we were, we were, I still can't. And for me,
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: it's been really rough with Arkansas, really rough, where I'm
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  Speaker 2: just sad all the time. So what I want is
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  Speaker 2: something positive from your sports world that you can share,
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  Speaker 2: so we can switch it up. So Eddie, I'll go
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  Speaker 2: to you first.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So on NBA two K I on our
• 3:14
  Speaker 1: Eras League, you're the Mavericks. I got the Mavericks. I
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  Speaker 1: somehow ended up with the Mavericks.
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  Speaker 2: Awesome.
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  Speaker 1: I finally played with my team. Dude, nineteen ninety two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and one. Mavericks is amazing. I know Dirk I
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  Speaker 1: want he could. I mean, he could drop threes. You
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  Speaker 1: don't even have to hit a full meter for him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing the same thing with Walle.
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  Speaker 2: He's erbiek who's not even as good as Dirk, and
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: you don't have to full meter and sometimes he goes
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  Speaker 2: in and I'm like, oh my god, I know, it's
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  Speaker 2: so crazy. I wanted Dirk and Steve Nash. That's awesome
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  Speaker 2: team that you have. Yeah, man, the team's really really good.
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  Speaker 2: You may can win a championship. I've already played four
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: games and I'm three and one. Oh good. I lost
• 3:49
  Speaker 2: this morning. Uh oh before work. I played something like
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  Speaker 2: three in the morning. I play the Lakers. They've got
• 3:54
  Speaker 2: two ninety eight Shaq and Kobe. I lost an overtime,
• 3:59
  Speaker 2: and so I'm like seven and one or something. But
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: I'm the Nashville nostalgia were playing Steve Brokele Arena, and
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  Speaker 2: it's just all stuff in the nineties, the two thousands
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  Speaker 2: on our jerseys. I thought it was kind of fun.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah, good for you. Well, let's let's get
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  Speaker 2: a game, all right. Yeah, that's positive. Good for you, Kevin.
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  Speaker 3: For me, it'd be fantasy football for once.
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  Speaker 4: I started off rough, have Justin Fields as my quarterback
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  Speaker 4: for a couple of weeks, not very good.
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  Speaker 3: Now he's what number.
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  Speaker 2: Three two weeks in a row. He's been crushing eight
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  Speaker 2: in two weeks.
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  Speaker 3: I've won them both.
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  Speaker 4: I got a chain eight Chan however you say it
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  Speaker 4: now he's hurt, but that's okay. I got Saquon coming back,
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  Speaker 4: won a couple in a row. I got a little
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  Speaker 4: momentum going.
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  Speaker 2: Good for you, and I'm happy. Good for you. Yeah, Mike, Well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not in football right now at all. He just quits.
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: I feel it. I feel you. But being from Dallas,
• 4:44
  Speaker 2: I'm also a fan of the Texas Rangers, who are
• 4:46
  Speaker 2: crushing it right now. They just swept the Baltimore Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm watching baseball for the first time ever. I
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: felt bad for Baltimore. They won one hundred and one
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  Speaker 2: games and they're just perennial losers. And I mean that
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  Speaker 2: in a loving way. Yeah forever. Yeah, I mean that
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  Speaker 2: is somebody who was who was a been a Cups
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  Speaker 2: fan of his whole life, and I I just know
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  Speaker 2: losing forever, forever, forever, and so I feel terrible for them.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to beat the Rangers because I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: see Baltimore win. They won a hundred. I mean, it's just.
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  Speaker 1: I'm alone someone he didn't die win for Andrew Jones.
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  Speaker 1: There we go, Andrew Jones win it for Dale Murphy
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  Speaker 1: the Orioles.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bil Murphy was a brave Oh it is an
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  Speaker 2: Oriole too. I think I don't remember Del Murphy playing
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  Speaker 2: with Orioles ever. You could back finally, be right. All
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  Speaker 2: I remember is Dale Murphy TBS early days. I don't Baltimore.
• 5:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know that Eddie Murray. I think that's who
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking of. Murray. They're totally different. Yeah, I know,
• 5:46
  Speaker 2: but Eddie Murphy, Jil Murphy is a white, skinny outfielder.
• 5:51
  Speaker 2: Eddie Murray is kind of a more built, power hitting
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  Speaker 2: black guy. Remember Rockies, Phillies, and Braves, So he's never
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  Speaker 2: on the Orioles. The Orioles, Murray, that's what I was
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: thinking of. Billy Ripkin.
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Cayl's brother with a card that was awesome.
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: Sick on the bottom of the bat. Do you remember that, Kevin?
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  Speaker 2: About that his baseball card. He's on the bat on
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  Speaker 2: his shoulder and it says if you sick seeking in
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  Speaker 2: the bottom of the bat drawn.
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  Speaker 1: Really it was an error card that was worth a
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  Speaker 1: lot of money, but.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was actually written on the bat and
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  Speaker 2: then they took it off once they realized they'd printed it.
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  Speaker 5: Day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was awesome.
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  Speaker 3: That'd be cool.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on for me right now is Arkansas basketball
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  Speaker 2: ranked twelve in the ESPN poll to start the year.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go very excited about that. I wish I were
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  Speaker 2: excited about football, and I still have. If we go
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  Speaker 2: and win every game, I'll still be like that a
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  Speaker 2: pretty good year. But even if we win every game out,
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  Speaker 2: we'd still end up with eight wins, and I really
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  Speaker 2: thought we'd win nine or ten ten on a really
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: great catching a couple of breaks. But if we can
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  Speaker 2: win out. Okay, but it's kind of sad. I bet
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  Speaker 2: the over under on DraftKings at seven.
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: Hey for Alabama Arkansas.
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  Speaker 2: No, for the wins for the year, A couple of
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  Speaker 2: the wins for the year. I did that at seven.
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: I did Vanderbilt at three.
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  Speaker 3: What is that right now?
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  Speaker 1: Three?
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  Speaker 2: I think they have two. I don't know. I don't
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  Speaker 2: look because then I just get sad. I start doing
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  Speaker 2: the math. You don't look before you bet. I do
• 7:15
  Speaker 2: before I bet, but then I don't look again until after.
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: And then because of the futures I put on this week,
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  Speaker 2: I've got a future now on the Ravens, the Cowboys,
• 7:23
  Speaker 2: and the Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: Ravens, Cowboys, yeah, the Eagles ones that.
• 7:30
  Speaker 2: It's like I would do all the forty nine ers.
• 7:32
  Speaker 2: I just feel like that's they're probably gonna win. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not gonna make that much money. I would let them
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: lose a little bit and let that Let those go
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  Speaker 2: out there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Kevin, Vanderbilt has won two games.
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so what's your schedule? Look like I need one more?
• 7:45
  Speaker 3: To just push Georgia this week?
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah they won't.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, loose Ole Miss, lose Auburn, lose South Carolina, lose.
• 7:54
  Speaker 3: See that's it.
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: That's tough. Maybe they could do that last year and
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  Speaker 2: like one out.
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  Speaker 3: I lost the UNIV hurt.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go, bandy.
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: I tell you I saw a coach's dad my son's
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  Speaker 1: basketball game, no base baseball game.
• 8:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like four times? Did you tell us on the show?
• 8:12
  Speaker 2: I think, so okay, then you should tell us again,
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: like I didn't know. Sorry, okay, man, no, what's up?
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: So I was at my kid's baseball game and I
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: was wearing my Vandy football shirt and this man comes
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: up and he's like, hey, cool shirt, and I'm like,
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: thank you. I just stood there and he's like, so
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: you a fan and I was.
• 8:27
  Speaker 2: Like, well, I'm not not a fan. You know. Me
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: and me and a buddy we do.
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: A sports podcast and and went a video thing.
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: Then we went to Vanderbilt and did a thing with them.
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: Oh that's cool, watch a little more baseball. And then goes, well,
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: my son's the coach there, and I was like, what
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: you could.
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: Have led with that. You're Clark Lee's dad. He's like,
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: that's super cool. I'm Clark Senior. It's super cool.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: It's proud of a son too, because he just wanted
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: to be like he wanted to find a way to
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: get to it, because I would totally because I'm like,
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: I know a guy who met Clarkly's dad. That's how
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: probably I am to get it all the way over.
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: What's funny, though, is I told him, yeah, I work
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: with Bobby Bones and we do this thing. He's like,
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, wait too much access. I saw it.
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: I saw the video. So you guys are trying to
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: kick football. It's like idiots. I love it.
• 9:10
  Speaker 2: Is that what he's said? I mean, not like that verbatim.
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: All right, let's go over. It's time for the tittle
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: tattle his name ever, it's the tittle Tattle.
• 9:24
  Speaker 4: If Oregon beats Washington this week, do you think bo
• 9:28
  Speaker 4: Nicks takes over as a Heisman favorite?
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  Speaker 1: No?
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, I couldn't even finish.
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: Now, I know. I think probably he needs a few
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: big wins bon Knicks. Even though he's been awesome at Oregon,
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: bo Knicks still has a little bit of Auburn on him.
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: And it also sucks for Bonix that he plays at
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: Oregon because not all Americans to watch his games, so
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: they can't shake off all the Auburn on him. So
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: we don't really get to see all the new and
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: improved bal Nicks uless we stay up late or make
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: a point to do it. I think if he has
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: a great game, it probably shifts it a bit. But
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: will he be the favorite? No, it depends on how
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: good Caleb Williams plays. That's a big game and gets
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame. If Kayleb Williams goes out primetime. I get
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: at USC, it's a left school as well, but USC
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: is a little more high profile than Oregon. You've left
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: in the country, mean, yeah, yeah, pol I'm looking at
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  Speaker 2: a map. Probably bothes it, that's true, But Kayleb Williams
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: also has what bow Knicks had, and that Kayla Williams
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: has a little bit Oklahoma on him, and he was
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: awesome at Oklahoma. So I think Kayla Williams wins it.
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: I think Michael Pennock Junior is the favorite right now,
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: but barely. I think a Bonex plays awesome and Oregon
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: keeps winning, he probably moves up a bit. What is
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: he third? Right now? It's Pennick Junior, Caleb Williams, and
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: Boone Knicks at three. But I do think if Oregon
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: wins it, he plays awesome, sure, but I don't think
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: he's the favorite until they are right about to make
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: the freaking tournament.
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: You think he has to beat Phoenix and Williams you.
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: Call him Poenix. It just feels like so much does
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: are you doing that on purpose?
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: He is Panix?
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: But you know how close phoenixs.
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: I just like, I just like that uncomfortable was an accident.
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: I think he just attached himself to it. Yeah. I
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: think Caleb Williams wins the Heisman, Okay, unless they lose
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: three games, two or three games. Everybody wants Caleb Wims win,
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: as in everybody, all the media. They love it because
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: he gets clicked, so they'll keep writing stories about him.
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: It's just gonna fed the monster. Yeah, but Boenix can
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: win the Heisman. If Oregon wins the whole thing, there
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: you go suck on that. You know who? I like? Though,
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: If I were voting and had the only vote that.
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: Counted Poenix, uh dong, excuse me.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: Everything that sounds like Penis, I would do. I would
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: vote for Bowers at Georgia.
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: Love that he's awesome, tight ends some.
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: Love Titan has won. It's it's like the forties or fifties. Yeah,
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: he's awesome. He's awesome. He's the best football player. Yeah,
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: he's Caleb Williams and Bowers are both. What about Drake
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: May or it prod them funny picking words at all? Yeah, okay,
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: go ahead. Next question, it's.
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: Non Pac twelve rank matchup.
• 11:59
  Speaker 4: Are you looking forward to most USC at Notre Dame
• 12:02
  Speaker 4: or Miami at North Carolina?
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: I don't care about Miami in North Carolina. Good, have
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: a nice day. It's a fun game to see if
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: Miami bounces back after their humiliating didn't take any loss,
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: and the North Carolina Drake May is awesome, but I
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: don't really care that much. What I care to see
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: is USC a Notre Dame for the same reason everybody
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: wants say it's two massive programs. It's Notre Dame who
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: people love it when not It's supposed to be good
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: and then they're not. I think people love that more
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: than when Notre Dame is good, and they definitely love
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: it more than when Notre Dame is just bad and
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: nobody cares. What people like is to see Notre Dame
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: get set up and then clock getting knocked down again. Yes,
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: because they're very entitled and I would feel entitled if
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: I were a Notre Dame fan. For sure, I wish
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: I felt entitled if I'm being honest, but I don't.
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: I'm a loser. But people love when Notre Dame's like,
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: this is the team, and they love to see people
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: just kick them right in the balls. And they've already
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: been kicked there. So they're not gonna win the National
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: championship this year, but people want to watch that game
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: because of Caleb Williams, because they want to see Notre
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: Dame get beat. Now I would like to note him win.
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: That would be cool, just counter everything I just said.
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: Because they can't win the National Championship. They've already I've
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: already achieved what I wanted with Notre Dame. Now I
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: want to see them eat up other schools.
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  Speaker 4: Do you feel like it's two entitled teams? Could be
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: because something California absolutely like that is there. I thought
• 13:18
  Speaker 4: they're known for yeah, and u s.
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: They also they fire coaches if they're not big, big,
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: big winners, they're just kind of winners. You only do
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: that if you're an entitled team, So we call it
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: the entitled Bull. Well, you'd need like nine teams playing
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: at once. There's a lot of entire like Royal rumble,
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: all nine teams down the field at once, yes, last one,
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: I mean Oklahoma in there, throw Alabama and yeah, you're entitled.
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: Want a lot like it's a success thing. You know,
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: there's not a team that wins a bunch of national
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: championships that you just go. You know, I'm big fans
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: of them. They're just great people because eventually you kind
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: of turned into a douche. I wish I could be
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: a douche about Kansas. Georgia started turn into douche starting
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: and I would too if I want to in a row.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: Of course, that's the goal, to be.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: A due Kevin, what's the UCLA USC kind of like
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: what's that vibe? Because I feel like you said, like
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: USC is what you think about when you think of
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: Southern cal What about UCLA. They're running in the side
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: of time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're kind of like the little brother like the Angels
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  Speaker 4: and the Dodgers kind of thing. But USC is known
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: for like spoiled kids and rich kids.
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: And if you go.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: Against programs you mean actual school, I mean both. Yeah,
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: I guess UCLA basketball is what I associate with winning basketball.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: In California. Yeah, and USC football. Yeah, all right, next up.
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: Going to the NFL after torching the Cowboys and getting
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: his team to five and oh, do you think brock
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: Purty is still being disrespected?
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people, myself included, although I
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: wasn't just a pure hater party. We got to watch
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: them in prime time and it was the only game
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: on and so we spent time with them. I think
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: like twenty million people watch that game. Yeah, we hung
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: out with them. Yeah. Otherwise, it's the four o'clock game
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: or three o'clock game. It's four o'clock on Fantasy FOOTBA
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: because it's they run Eastern. Yeah, three o'clock. It's a
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: three o'clock game, and you're watching it with two other games,
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: and the four Ninders are winning, but the game gets
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: out of hand quick or it's them playing, so you
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: don't spend a lot of time with it, and you
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: listen to the people that you trust. Going Brock Party
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: the system quarterback. But then we watched him play the
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Cowboys and he was making every throw with touch or
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: on the money hard, or he was checking. Yes, he
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: has a bunch of weapons, but okay, we can't penalize
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: people for the weapons that they have. That'd be stupid.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, even if the system is perfect, you've got to
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: make that throw.
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  Speaker 2: And he was making and I think everybody going everybody
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: keeps saying brock Party is underrated, is now swinging the
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: pendulum the other way. So good for him. He's killing it.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: He makes eight hundred thousand bucks a year, which in
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: the NFL is not a lot. It's a rookie deal,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: seventh round, last pick, right general generally speaking, yes, but
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: for NFL player one hundred thousand bucks a year, not
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: for a star of the best team in the NFL
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: eight hundred thousand bucks the quarterback. It's a low So,
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: and he lives in San Francisco, which costs way more. Yeah,
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: so he has a roommate.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: But he understands that, right, Like I think he understands
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: it's early in his career and he's still trying to
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: prove who he is. Even though he's getting closer and
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: closer to proven that, he's still at the eight hundred
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars level, Right, He's.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: So close to the big deal. Yeah, but he's eight
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: hundred thousand Because a team that's when they really have
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: the ability to win big is when you have somebody
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: massive in a rookie deal. You don't just go and
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: throw a bunch of money. He knows he's good. He'll
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: make a lot bunch of money. Let's get hurt. But
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: if you can get a quarterback and a rookie deal
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: year two or three, they're in there pretty But then
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: you got a pam like Mahomes. That's why he has
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: no wide receivers because they don't want to. They can't
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: pay anybody else. And so even like Kelsey, who's a
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: massive star, great tight end, tight ends just don't get
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: paid as much as receivers. So that's very beneficial to
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: the team that they have somebody in a rookie deal,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: especially a quarterback. They won the lottery for sure. Yeah
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: so all right, well.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: More seen some major upsets in the MLB playoffs right now,
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: and I was wondering, would you rather have your team
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: not make the playoffs at all, or your top team
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: all year and they get bounced in the first round.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: I would rather make the playoffs and just be destroyed
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: later in the playoffs and not make it at all,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: because that means, hopefully you've got some health going into
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: next year. That means you had fun this season. That's
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: more time you got to spend winning, just generally right,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: and it sucks. It's like, would you rather your team
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: go to the final four and get beat on a
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: heartbreak and buzzer beater, or I'll make a tournament take
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: me to the final four. I'll heartbreak all day. I'm
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: used to heartbreak. I'm freaking callous. All my teams lose.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: It sucks. So yes, I would rather make the playoffs
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: and lose in a really bad way because then I
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: can come on and to keep doing this crap. I suck.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: It's good content. Feel sorry for me? Yes, all right,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: thank you. That's tittle Tattle's name, the tittle Tattle. All right,
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  Speaker 2: part with each of our hands because I just haven't
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• 18:07
  Speaker 2: and then you guys throw your one in here. Let's
• 18:10
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• 18:12
  Speaker 2: going Duke money line versus North Carolina State. Pretty close game,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: it's been like two or three points what spread's been.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go Duke money line versus n C.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: State money lines. Duke's the favorite there.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, it looks like by two and a half or
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  Speaker 2: three three and a half and nouns three and a
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  Speaker 2: half A better bet it quick for it goes up again.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Okay, I'm gonna put the odds into all right,
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  Speaker 2: go ahead, ah, Kevin.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with stay in the acc there, North
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Carolina money line against Miami at home North Carolina. They
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: are three and a half point favorites as well.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're a bunch of wamps.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Well, I know, but we gotta get back on track here.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: I agree, you know, No, I I again, it was
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I think two and a half when I jumped on it,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: and now it's three and a half. But that's still
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: loser I should have I'm not taking this bread. I
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: just need to win.
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  Speaker 1: So only one of us has balls here that would
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: probably be you.
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  Speaker 2: But just don't be the only one of us. Just
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: don't be the one to lose it. That's what I'm saying.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: You gotta take risks.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: They already risk every time.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, Eddie should have cash Yeah, cash out,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: cash out, cash out. So you're full of crap about risk. Okay,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: go ahead, all let me have this in Duke money line.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Not three and a half, right, Duke money line. Mnus
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: want seventy five more? Okay, Kevin, yours is North Carolina,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: North North Carolina on your hand up. Okay, let go
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: hellicupter North Carolina versus Miami. North Carolina is a three
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: and a half point favorite after the Miami first of all, debuckle.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: So they're either gonna come and play terrible. That's or
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: blow the doors off and be like we're so embarrassed,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: we're gonna come out for vengeance.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: That's what scares me.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, and Eddie.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Let's get some guts here, guys. Look, Louisville coming up,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: coming out, coming off off the great victory killing Notre
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Dame at home. They're playing Pitt Pit's not a very
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: good football team. They got seven points. So it's Louisville
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: minus seven and a half right now.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: So we're taking the spread on that one. Yes, Louisville's
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: gonna run over Pittsburgh. Okay, you don't think it's like
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: a trap game to you, and I do not. Okay,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: those three. If you bet ten bucks, you'll make forty
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: six sixty. That's good. I bet ten. I've bet one
• 20:19
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• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm in.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I bet mine. If we say it, I do it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: There you go get in with us, taking mind Eddie.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Good for you for picking the spread.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Hey man, let's make some smiles on that one.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: The Arkansas spread last week was like eleven and a half.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I changed it up to Arkansas seven plus seven, and
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: then it freaking pushed. So I tried to take less
• 20:41
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  Speaker 2: Not always we get to hang out with an All
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: American or hit him with pads or he helps us
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: put our pads on, push him around. Yeah, Cooper byby
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: is awesome. Like what a dude. So here he is.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Cooper was ranked the ninth best player in the state
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: of Kansas coming out of high school. He was not
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: a four star kid though. What's funny crazy, Like he
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: wasn't this massive recruit we were talking to him about.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: He's a three star recruit and so big shot put
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: guy played basketball as well when he's in high school
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: and he's All American now he could have went to
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: the draft last year. During the game, we were talking
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: about that too, like you wanted to stay. I guess
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: his brother plays on the team too, which we didn't
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: meet his brother. But and he like taught school. You
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: guys see the packaging ran on him on the football game.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: He's like teaching kids like in high school. He's awesome.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I love this dude. You can follow Cooper on his
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: journey to the NFL next year on Twitter Cooper underscore BB.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Here he is Cooper BB.
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: Cooper, How big a boy are you six street. How
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: long have you been that big?
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: Oh? My wife?
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gotta be tough for your mom.
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: It's six three like that.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: That's dang. So what what.
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: Town did you grow up in?
• 22:13
  Speaker 8: So?
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: I grew up in Kansas City.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: And in high school were you, you know, big four
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: star linemen?
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: I was actually a two star defensive alignment.
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: That's crazy.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: And that's the point I wanted to get to, is
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: that here you are now, preseason all American, but a
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: two star guy. And so a lot of people watching this,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: maybe like you in high school right now, or may
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: have kids in high school right now that haven't.
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: They don't even know their potential yet. Like, what would
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: you say to them watching this?
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: Man, I'll tell you what. Ratings.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: Ratings don't mean anything, you know, dude, don't let anybody
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: ever tell you can't do it. You know, if you
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: put in the work, you know, day in day out,
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: you know, big things will happen.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: What's what's your dream?
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: I won't play in the NFL, it's my dream?
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: What do you want to play? Left?
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: Tackle? You play guard?
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: You know I have played tackles, definitely, not you know,
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: with these with these little arms it's not necessarily the
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  Speaker 5: easiest things.
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: You just say little arms, I don't see why are
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: you what's your helmet on?
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: We never know we're on the field.
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: Man, you want to get a flag out here taking
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: your helmet.
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: Success and celebration if you take it off.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: So you're gonna leave it on the whole interview, right,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: So when you come out those doors and this place
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: is full of people screaming, clapping, I mean that's got
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: to be awesome.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is my fifth year here and I still
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: get goosebumps every time. You know, you sit right there
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: and the garage opens, the smoke's going off.
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: It's just an unreal experience.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: What's coach like?
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: Oh, Coach is amazing, dude. He's such a player's coach.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: You know, he's a dude. You know you want to
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: go I'd go have a beer with or hang out with.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: He's just he's just such cool and he really builds
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: the culture around here that makes this play special.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: What do we the common man not know about the
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: offensive line? Because we see you guys are like great,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: good job or bad job or nothing, or you know,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: because you don't get the respect you deserve.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: What do we not know, you know, our job is
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: a lot harder than people think. You know, like you said,
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: we're always the ones that get criticized, but you know,
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: nobody in the stands could do what we do, and
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: you know we're the reason.
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: You know, we win.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Whenever you get down on the line and somebody's calling
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: out there, they're like, what are you guys looking for?
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  Speaker 2: Whenever you line up, Like what you're looking at where
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  Speaker 2: the defensive tackles are lined up? The linebackers?
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  Speaker 6: What are you all yelling down there?
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  Speaker 7: So usually we yell at combinations.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: So if I'm next to the center, for instance, and
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  Speaker 5: we're going to combo to this guy, we'll say one
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  Speaker 2: But how would I not know that you were king
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: and me? If I was lined up against you and
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I ard you call King, I'd be like, he's gonna
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  Speaker 2: king me.
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: So, no, defensive lineman, aren't that smart?
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: Got it?
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: I felt that that's the best answer I can give.
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  Speaker 2: Do you watch draft analysis and see where they're tossing
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  Speaker 2: your name around?
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: It's hard not to see. I try to tune it out.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: You know, I know that I got to do what
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  Speaker 5: I got to do, and you know it all play
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  Speaker 5: out from there.
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  Speaker 6: Tell me about this cool How much it means to you?
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  Speaker 7: Oh, it means everything to me.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I had the chance to go pro last year,
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  Speaker 5: but you know it's just the people that truly make
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  Speaker 2: All right, thanks Cooper by be awesome. We'll get to
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna go over to our interview with coach Climban.
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  Speaker 2: I love this dude. I liked hanging out with them,
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  Speaker 2: but then when I watched them coach and I know
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  Speaker 2: they lost the last game that we watched, it didn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I want to play for this guy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It was like fourth and four from their own twenty
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  Speaker 2: nine is like, we got to make a move. They
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: got one, didn't get another one, but he trusted his
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: defense to just give up three. He was doing it
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: was awesome. I was like, I want to play for
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: this dude, Like if I was an offensive guy, I
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: don't want to play for this dude.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're too old, can't play for him anymore.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Sometimes a Disney movie comes out about somebody who's older
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  Speaker 2: who goes back and makes a difference.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Just the same man, you keep tricking yourself here.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: They won the Big Twelve last year, and I say
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: that to him, like I feel like, you guys just
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: didn't get the respect you deserved because one TCU end
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: up going to the championship game and that okay, and
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: maybe if they win the game, they're like, oh, they
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: didn't win the conference, but they get beat one hundred
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: and nothing. So people aren't even looking at what happened
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve. They won the Big Twelve last year.
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  Speaker 2: So coach made his name at North Dakota State. He
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: won four national championships in five years, which is wild.
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  Speaker 2: He was a part of seven total. He led the
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  Speaker 2: waldcast to a Big twelve championship last year for the
• 27:21
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• 27:24
  Speaker 2: coach KLi He's awesome. Here he is and it's his birthday.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: It's a birthday. He thinks we don't know then getting
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  Speaker 2: the time machine. It's his birthday when we're doing this interview.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Here is coach Clamb coach. When you take over a
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  Speaker 2: program because you've been here a few years, regardless of
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: the program, but especially somewhere like Kansas State, there are
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  Speaker 2: many things that the alumni and that the local folks
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: are proud of. Hand signals, if it's a whoopig or
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: if it's the cat. How quickly do you have to
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: learn to do the hand signal exactly right? Like day one?
• 27:54
  Speaker 9: Day one?
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Are you scared to do it though immediately because you
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: don't want to like do it slightly wrong?
• 27:58
  Speaker 9: Absolutely, yeah, you don't want too. But no, day one,
• 28:01
  Speaker 9: they expect you to know it all. And you know
• 28:04
  Speaker 9: from EMA to the hand signal to the Wabash canniball everything.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: You gotta know what's the Wabash canniball.
• 28:10
  Speaker 9: It's one of her song.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a song. No, that's the macarena. I
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: would just be nervous because there are times when I
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: meet people and I don't get their name exactly right,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: and if I have to go on TV or something
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: and say their name, I'm like, I don't want to. Yeah,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I have to because if I'm wrong, everybody's going to
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: know I'm a little bit wrong, and there's pressure. I
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: was looking a lot of pictures of you holding the
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: hand sign. Is that is that on a plane? Are
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: they teaching you stuff on the flight over when you
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: get the job.
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: Absolutely, That's why I had Kenny Lenou on the flight.
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: You know, our media relations guy. You're showing me how
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: to do everything, and uh but no, I mean it
• 28:44
  Speaker 9: is such a world wind tour when you first get hired.
• 28:49
  Speaker 9: And I was in the middle of another season with
• 28:51
  Speaker 9: another team, and we were trying to win a national championship.
• 28:53
  Speaker 9: So you'd ask my wife. She still doesn't remember that
• 28:57
  Speaker 9: sixty days we had of kind of the courtship.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Whenever I get a treadmill or any sort of like
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: exercise machine, I work on it for I don't know,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: a month or so, and then it just turns into
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: basically a clothes hanger or I just end up doing
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: close Now I notice, right, by your desk. Yeah, there's
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: a piece of cardio equipment. How often do you actually
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: use it or is it more of just a discussion point? Now?
• 29:18
  Speaker 9: Did you not know what the car equipment is? No,
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: it's an elliptical.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but I mean how often do you get
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: on it? Though?
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: Actually twice a week.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: You still use it?
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I still use it.
• 29:27
  Speaker 9: No, I don't hang any clothes on here. I truly
• 29:30
  Speaker 9: use it twice a week. You can see. We've got
• 29:32
  Speaker 9: some big screens around here, so my videos up there.
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: So then I put the video on, watch some of
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: the games, watch some cutups, watch a lot of the
• 29:41
  Speaker 9: different plays that we're trying to watch, and I can
• 29:44
  Speaker 9: gotta get a little extra during the season.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Oh that was like Richard Simmons or something. He's like
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: he puts his video up there. Yeah, just sweating to
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: the oldies.
• 29:52
  Speaker 9: I would love it if it were that. But no,
• 29:53
  Speaker 9: this is actually work. The hard thing is I have
• 29:55
  Speaker 9: my phone with me and then I'm trying to type
• 29:57
  Speaker 9: in notes. I'm sweaty, and but I get it done.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: If I'm thinking of throughout the week and I'm touring
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: now doing stand up. But if I think of a
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Joe concept. I write it on my phone immediately. Sometimes
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I go back to it and sometimes I can remember
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: what the idea was. Sometimes I can't. As a football coach,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: do you do the same with concepts or plays or
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: schemes where it's like, I have not seen this yet,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: let me jot it down, or maybe we should do it,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: And then you go back to it and revisit in
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: your phone and sometimes you don't even know what you
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: roll down.
• 30:28
  Speaker 9: For me, it's more leadership thoughts, motivating thoughts. I'll get
• 30:33
  Speaker 9: up in the middle of the night because I never
• 30:35
  Speaker 9: sleep very well during the season, and my wife will look,
• 30:37
  Speaker 9: what are you doing? And she'll know that I'm typing
• 30:39
  Speaker 9: something that I just thought of at two am, to
• 30:42
  Speaker 9: say something we can do maybe after a big win,
• 30:46
  Speaker 9: how do we responding back? Maybe after a loss, maybe
• 30:49
  Speaker 9: after a bad practice, whatever it may be. I'm always
• 30:52
  Speaker 9: my mind never shuts off during the football season, but
• 30:55
  Speaker 9: there are times I'll go back in and I'll say, gosh,
• 30:58
  Speaker 9: when did I do that? And Lucky It'll say like
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: three thirty five. I'm like, boy, I don't even remember
• 31:02
  Speaker 9: getting up.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Who are some of your leadership role models either that
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: you've worked for with, or that you just read about
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: that you never knew.
• 31:10
  Speaker 9: You know, I've been fortunate because I've got a guy
• 31:12
  Speaker 9: named Ben Newman that's one of the world renowned speakers
• 31:16
  Speaker 9: in the in the country sports performance coach, and he's
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: put me on like Ed my left and he's put
• 31:22
  Speaker 9: me on John Gordon and some of those guys that
• 31:24
  Speaker 9: I just I love reading motivational books. I love reading
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: leadership books. But then you know, I'm going to read
• 31:30
  Speaker 9: a book on Kobe Bryant. You know, I'm just how
• 31:34
  Speaker 9: those guys, what they did to tick you know, Michael Jordan,
• 31:38
  Speaker 9: all the great ones of how they were motivated and
• 31:42
  Speaker 9: what kind of drove them.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I feel like for any success that either me or
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: my friends peers have had, like we all have a
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: screw loose, but it's the right screw and it's just
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: the right amount of loose, and there's you only have
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: that that little amount to still be somewhat saying. I'm
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: only somewhat saying because like you, I don't see well,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I can't stop thinking, I can't stop imagining my you know,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: my wife and I always you know, time management, something's
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: always happening. Do you feel like you got to screw
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: because you're very successful. Do you feel like you have
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: kind of a screw loose? But it's the right screw.
• 32:13
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you have to. I don't know what screw that is.
• 32:17
  Speaker 9: That's loose. My wife would tell you for sure, but
• 32:19
  Speaker 9: you absolutely have to to do what we do, to
• 32:23
  Speaker 9: do what you do. I mean, it's NonStop. You know,
• 32:26
  Speaker 9: it's seven days a week right now. You know, you
• 32:30
  Speaker 9: get in the office by five forty five and you're
• 32:32
  Speaker 9: leaving it nine thirty quarter to ten, and your mind's
• 32:36
  Speaker 9: still on when you go home, you visit with your
• 32:38
  Speaker 9: wife a little bit, you go to bed, you wake up,
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: and it's just repeat rents and repeat rents and repeat.
• 32:43
  Speaker 9: So you have to have a little bit of a
• 32:45
  Speaker 9: screw loose. But it's crazy because I never have felt like,
• 32:47
  Speaker 9: and I've been doing this for over thirty years, that
• 32:49
  Speaker 9: I've ever had a job. I assume you probably think
• 32:52
  Speaker 9: the same thing, that you don't really feel.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Like you have a job. I don't until I see
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: the revenue that I bring in and then I realize
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I to be paid more. So, you know, that's kind
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: of how I'm like, this is so fun. Let me
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: see the road. Oh, Okay, this is a job I forgot. Yes,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I agree. And my stepdad worked at sawmill, right, and
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I got to see him go to work and hate
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: his job every single day. And I had jobs that
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I hated every day in doing what I do in
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: the morning, or touring or this. And it's also like
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: when I speak to people, I'm like, if you find
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: something that you love to do, it's not just that
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I having fun, but you'll actually want to be better
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: at it. And when you want to be better at something,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: like you strive, you achieve, and it's it's a cycle.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: You love it, you get better at it, you have success,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: and it continues. So I've found that for me to
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: be successful. But I agree, this isn't a real job.
• 33:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 33:37
  Speaker 9: And for us in coaching, we utilize each other so much.
• 33:40
  Speaker 9: Even when you play against somebody, you know them and
• 33:43
  Speaker 9: you talk to him in the off season. Some guys
• 33:46
  Speaker 9: you're really close to in season that you talk to
• 33:48
  Speaker 9: and you spitball ideas and you throw things around. And
• 33:53
  Speaker 9: everybody knows. Everybody in our profession probably the same as yours.
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 33:57
  Speaker 9: I've got a bunch of staff members that have been
• 33:59
  Speaker 9: in the business for thirty plus years and hey, we
• 34:02
  Speaker 9: played this team this week. Oh yeah, I know the
• 34:04
  Speaker 9: running back coach, I know the linebacker coach. I'll give
• 34:07
  Speaker 9: them a call and see if we can get some
• 34:09
  Speaker 9: some tips or some hand signals or whatever. Or what
• 34:12
  Speaker 9: was the environment like when we went to that stadium?
• 34:14
  Speaker 9: How loud was it? How loud do you have to
• 34:16
  Speaker 9: have the noise of practice to try to replicate those things?
• 34:19
  Speaker 9: It's just never endying and it's NonStop, but that's what
• 34:22
  Speaker 9: makes it so much fun.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: What is your wife's favorite month?
• 34:26
  Speaker 9: Oh boy, I would say probably July, just because that's
• 34:31
  Speaker 9: when we get a little bit of a break. Her
• 34:34
  Speaker 9: birthdays in August, and I haven't celebrated at birthdays. We're
• 34:36
  Speaker 9: in the middle of fall camp, our entire time together.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: But she knew what she was getting into.
• 34:41
  Speaker 9: She married me when I was a graduate assistant making
• 34:45
  Speaker 9: about eight hundred dollars a month, so she knew exactly
• 34:47
  Speaker 9: what she was getting into. And I told her, like,
• 34:50
  Speaker 9: your birthdays in August, that's a bad, bad month.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: And so now she just changed it. It's now in
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: December officially.
• 34:56
  Speaker 9: Yeah, she just says, no, I'm out of town now.
• 34:58
  Speaker 9: So now she goes out of twent every August and
• 35:01
  Speaker 9: gets away for her birthday and I sit out of
• 35:04
  Speaker 9: practice and I'm like, well, she's in good hands, she's.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Doing it's your birthday today, coach. You think we did
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: birthday birthday coach on so we knew. So what do
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: you You're up here with these knuckleheads, and I mean
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: us on your birthday and it's off week. You could
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: be doing whatever, Like what do you usually do on
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: your birthday?
• 35:20
  Speaker 9: Well, it's I was thinking back of this, and I
• 35:22
  Speaker 9: may have to have Ryan or Kenny look this up.
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: This is the first time that I can remember my
• 35:28
  Speaker 9: birthday week landing on an open week. So usually it's
• 35:33
  Speaker 9: get the text, talk to my mother, those things, and
• 35:37
  Speaker 9: just go right back to work. I've got a radio
• 35:40
  Speaker 9: show tonight that I've got to do from seven to
• 35:42
  Speaker 9: eight and h then my wife and daughter who's in
• 35:46
  Speaker 9: town might grab a bite, teat or something. But usually
• 35:50
  Speaker 9: it's right in the middle of game week, and and
• 35:52
  Speaker 9: you never know, I hate it when it's on game day,
• 35:55
  Speaker 9: but this is the middle of a game week or
• 35:57
  Speaker 9: an open week, so it's a lot better.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: You ever lost really bad on your birthday?
• 36:00
  Speaker 9: Absolutely no, No, that's that's then you don't even want
• 36:05
  Speaker 9: maybe not maybe not on the birthday, but like it
• 36:08
  Speaker 9: comes on a Sunday and you lost on a Saturday,
• 36:10
  Speaker 9: and you don't even want to take any of the
• 36:12
  Speaker 9: calls or text and you don't want to respond back.
• 36:14
  Speaker 9: But maybe it takes a few days and you do.
• 36:17
  Speaker 9: But we've been fortunate. We've won more than we've lost,
• 36:20
  Speaker 9: so that that has made it a lot easier coach.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: One of the games I hate is when you guys
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: played TCU because there's just all purple on the field
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh gosh, who's going Yes, Kansas courre No,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: that was TCU?
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Is it ever?
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: How well the first question when you go into the game,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: who decides like, all right, we're wearing the darks, we're
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: wearing these helmets, we're wearing that. Because you got to coordinate,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: especially with a team like that's got purple.
• 36:42
  Speaker 9: Purple, Yeah, home team gets the selection. But last year
• 36:46
  Speaker 9: in the Big twelve championship game, which was at at
• 36:49
  Speaker 9: and T Stadium, it was a sea of purple. That's
• 36:52
  Speaker 9: all people saw. And if it weren't for the fact
• 36:55
  Speaker 9: that I knew where our bench was and the fans
• 36:57
  Speaker 9: we had behind our bench. But you looked across there
• 37:00
  Speaker 9: and you saw the fans like, well, this place is
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: packed with purple.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 37:04
  Speaker 9: It was definitely a sea of purple, but I would
• 37:07
  Speaker 9: say it was probably fifty to fifty there. Maybe we
• 37:09
  Speaker 9: had a little bit more even though it was in
• 37:11
  Speaker 9: Fort Worth.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: All I remember is texting Eddie because I'm colorblinded. Dark colors,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: like everything over like a five on the darkness scale
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: looks the same. And I was like, dude, I don't
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: know what's what. Now give them the update.
• 37:21
  Speaker 9: It was like, I'm what, what's that's the border of
• 37:23
  Speaker 9: the numbers. I can't really tell the difference. Yeah, there's
• 37:27
  Speaker 9: some We've played a game a number of years ago
• 37:32
  Speaker 9: and the team had black jerseys and Navy numbers and
• 37:38
  Speaker 9: we were trying who's in the game? What number were like,
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: we couldn't tell. They've now made a rule against that
• 37:43
  Speaker 9: you can't have contrasting colors on the numbers to the
• 37:47
  Speaker 9: jersey because you could not tell what numbers were in
• 37:49
  Speaker 9: the game. And it's that's a nightmare for us as
• 37:52
  Speaker 9: coaches to see how many running backs are in the game,
• 37:54
  Speaker 9: how many wide receivers in the game.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: You can't even tell the number and that strategy on
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: their part. All right, well, sure it is. Yeah, that's
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: a game. I feel like pilloff numbers, we switch numbers
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: during the game. I do all kinds of crazy stuff.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: I was looking at since you join as head coach
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: at Kansas State. I was looking at a lot of
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: the head coaching records just in those few years. There's
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: just so much progress that's been here at Kansas State
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: since the moment that you took over, like actually tangible progress,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: and I think it's one of the I won't say underappreciated,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: but you guys won the freaking Big twelve last year,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: and I feel like people didn't really hold you guys
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: up as high as as and I think TCU them
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: not having a good showing in the championship game just
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: took some headlines because everybody's like, but I feel like
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: you guys did not get the credit you deserved last year,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: or didn't get held on the pedestal as high as
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: you probably should have.
• 38:48
  Speaker 9: Probably accurate. I think there's a lot of disrespect for
• 38:53
  Speaker 9: Kansas State. Doesn't matter if it's football, basketball, baseball, whatever
• 38:57
  Speaker 9: it may be. But you know that's probably the chip
• 39:00
  Speaker 9: on our shoulder too, that you've got to earn that
• 39:03
  Speaker 9: respect every day. And our guys would be the first
• 39:07
  Speaker 9: ones to tell you that they probably like the underdog
• 39:10
  Speaker 9: status and they liked that being the hunted perspective, and
• 39:17
  Speaker 9: so you know, we talk about it, but in the
• 39:19
  Speaker 9: same respect, come every Saturday, you got to perform anyway.
• 39:23
  Speaker 9: And we've had some really good things happen. We've had
• 39:26
  Speaker 9: some tough losses here too, but last year probably validated
• 39:31
  Speaker 9: a lot of the things that we wanted to get
• 39:33
  Speaker 9: done when we came here in twenty nineteen. The pandemic
• 39:36
  Speaker 9: year was a disaster for us, like it was everywhere
• 39:39
  Speaker 9: else and or a lot of people probably had better
• 39:42
  Speaker 9: success than we did. But I remember in the pandemic
• 39:44
  Speaker 9: here we would do our COVID testing on Friday morning
• 39:48
  Speaker 9: and then the trainers would come up and say, okay,
• 39:50
  Speaker 9: these five people have COVID. Well, those are two starting guards,
• 39:54
  Speaker 9: those are two starting linebackers. Oh and by the way,
• 39:56
  Speaker 9: they're close contact guys, or you're starting defensive end and
• 39:59
  Speaker 9: you're like, all right, jump on the bus, so soe
• 40:01
  Speaker 9: who can play, let's go? And that was that was miserable.
• 40:04
  Speaker 9: So everything that we've done helps tarnish or magnify what
• 40:10
  Speaker 9: that was so crappy in twenty twenty. But for us
• 40:13
  Speaker 9: to get that big twelve championship last year kind of
• 40:15
  Speaker 9: validated everything that we wanted to get done here when
• 40:18
  Speaker 9: we came here in twenty nineteen.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: It's just such a big deal. It's Power five Conference.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: You win the championship. Yeah, we still have to hear
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: about and you don't need to comment. That's stupid Texas. Yeah,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: exactly who they are. So it's like, who cares about
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: you don't comment on the coach.
• 40:33
  Speaker 9: That's just I just talking about were still play them
• 40:35
  Speaker 9: this year?
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: You said nothing about that. That's just that's doing our
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: comments here. What do your players know you for?
• 40:41
  Speaker 9: Oh boy, well, you get a chance to be with
• 40:44
  Speaker 9: Cooper b B today, so he'll probably tell you a
• 40:46
  Speaker 9: little bit hopefully that I'm a player's coach. I value
• 40:51
  Speaker 9: their opinion. We have a leadership counsul that I want
• 40:53
  Speaker 9: their opinion on things. I want their voice. I think
• 40:57
  Speaker 9: that's a big thing right now in college athletics is
• 41:01
  Speaker 9: you know, you don't want to be a dictator. You
• 41:03
  Speaker 9: need to have those guys have a voice and take
• 41:08
  Speaker 9: ownership in the program. And that's why I think we
• 41:10
  Speaker 9: were successful last year is you know, we gave him
• 41:13
  Speaker 9: a lot of things and then gave him the keys
• 41:15
  Speaker 9: and said, you guys got to hold each other accountable
• 41:18
  Speaker 9: to the standard that you guys expect. You know what
• 41:19
  Speaker 9: we expect. But when your peer can hold you accountable
• 41:23
  Speaker 9: to that same standard of what you do on the field,
• 41:25
  Speaker 9: what you do off the field, how you prepare yourself.
• 41:29
  Speaker 9: And our guys have that right now, and our locker
• 41:32
  Speaker 9: room has really good culture right now. And I a
• 41:34
  Speaker 9: firm believer that when you give the guys that ownership
• 41:39
  Speaker 9: and let them run the team and let them run
• 41:41
  Speaker 9: that locker room, it gets better and better.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Coach, I'm a huge Cowboys fan, So let's talk about.
• 41:46
  Speaker 9: Duce Vanno and that fun one to talk about now.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, Deuce was awesome for you guys, and then
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: when he gets drafted by the Cowboys, super special. Of course,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: the whole bad connection. But he's sitting at the third
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: running back spot.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: He's super fast. Yep, he's not that big of a guy, but.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: What can you say about him as a person? And two,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: would you ever call Jerry and be like, hey, you've
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: got to move him up.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: What you need.
• 42:13
  Speaker 9: Well, we would have played him all the time, you know.
• 42:16
  Speaker 9: And it's funny because Deuce and his mother sat right
• 42:20
  Speaker 9: where you're sitting when he was a senior in high school,
• 42:24
  Speaker 9: big infectious smile, and I said, you're going to be
• 42:27
  Speaker 9: a dynamite running back for Kansas State and you're not
• 42:31
  Speaker 9: too small to play, uh, and we're going to build
• 42:34
  Speaker 9: our program around you, and we're going to build our
• 42:36
  Speaker 9: offense around you. And he was he lit up and
• 42:38
  Speaker 9: he said, I'm coming to k State and that's what
• 42:40
  Speaker 9: we did, and that's what he did for us. So
• 42:42
  Speaker 9: there's a role for him, and I don't know if
• 42:44
  Speaker 9: it's been defined yet. I don't ever get a chance
• 42:46
  Speaker 9: to watch NFL football Sundays, our busiest days. I'll get
• 42:51
  Speaker 9: a highlight somebody will send me, like Julie Sprince had
• 42:53
  Speaker 9: a who played for US last year, had a strip
• 42:55
  Speaker 9: and created a turnover last week. I don't get a
• 42:59
  Speaker 9: chance to watch enough. But if you need me to
• 43:02
  Speaker 9: call Jerry find you guys get his number a lot
• 43:04
  Speaker 9: easier than I could. We'll give him a call and
• 43:07
  Speaker 9: see if we can get him on the field a
• 43:08
  Speaker 9: little bit more.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: You define yourself as a players coach. Have you always
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: been a players coach or is that something that you've
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: transitioned to more of that as you've been you know,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: I had just had more head coaching experience.
• 43:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah, No, it's it's what I've always tried to be.
• 43:22
  Speaker 9: I look at it as I was really fortunate to
• 43:25
  Speaker 9: get a head job at North Dakota State. We won
• 43:28
  Speaker 9: some games there. I was the d bat coach, I
• 43:31
  Speaker 9: was the defensive coordinator, and I always had a really
• 43:33
  Speaker 9: good relationship with the guys and I always wanted to
• 43:36
  Speaker 9: be a part of the guy's lives, not just on
• 43:39
  Speaker 9: the field, but more importantly off the field, see how
• 43:40
  Speaker 9: they're doing, talk about their families. And then when I
• 43:43
  Speaker 9: got elevated to head coach, I just said I'm not
• 43:46
  Speaker 9: going to change. And I remember one of our players
• 43:49
  Speaker 9: that had we had at North Zcota State. I wore
• 43:53
  Speaker 9: a suit for for a for the first game in
• 43:57
  Speaker 9: the morning, and it was my first game and I'll
• 43:59
  Speaker 9: never forget it, and the kid came up to me
• 44:01
  Speaker 9: and said, you don't have to do this. Go put
• 44:05
  Speaker 9: your sweats on, or go put your your polo on,
• 44:07
  Speaker 9: and we're going to be just great. And I looked
• 44:09
  Speaker 9: at him, and I was like, oh, thank god he
• 44:11
  Speaker 9: said that, because I felt so uncomfortable, and so I
• 44:15
  Speaker 9: went back to just warning my polo and my my
• 44:18
  Speaker 9: khakis or sweats on that day or the next game,
• 44:21
  Speaker 9: and I just I want to be a part of
• 44:24
  Speaker 9: those guys' lives. And the only way you can be
• 44:27
  Speaker 9: is by being around him as much as you can,
• 44:29
  Speaker 9: by finding out as much you can, by joking with
• 44:31
  Speaker 9: them as much you can, by just being one of
• 44:35
  Speaker 9: the guys. And that's what assistants typically are, and us
• 44:38
  Speaker 9: head coaches oftentimes have to become CEOs and all that
• 44:41
  Speaker 9: other stuff, which you still have to do, but you
• 44:45
  Speaker 9: still have to break away and get in in the
• 44:47
  Speaker 9: locker room and the training room and weight room and
• 44:50
  Speaker 9: just you know, dig your heels in and get to
• 44:52
  Speaker 9: know them.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Let's talk schematically, especially defensively in the NFL. You're seeing Miami.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: You know, they don't have a lot of big guys.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: It's they got a lot of fast guys about They
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: got a lot of guys that get in an open
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: space and then run if it's you know, moster, if
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: it's Tyreek, if it's waddle. But then now the defenses
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: are having to change too, and we saw the Patriots
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: have to play like four or five safeties at one
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: time to try to keep speed up. What changes are
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: you seeing in the Big twelve or just in college
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: football in general? Are you seeing all just speed winning
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: more at times, like in the linebacker and defensive backs
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: more than it ever has.
• 45:26
  Speaker 9: Yeah, without a doubt, you know, you don't run the
• 45:30
  Speaker 9: old I formation quarterback under center very often at all.
• 45:35
  Speaker 9: The other thing that's that is taking over college football
• 45:38
  Speaker 9: that's going to take over the NFL pretty soon as
• 45:40
  Speaker 9: no huddle, not giving a team a chance to substitute,
• 45:44
  Speaker 9: so that we're going to put our fastest guys out there,
• 45:47
  Speaker 9: and you better be able to match those guys. And
• 45:49
  Speaker 9: sometimes in the past people just match those guys on
• 45:52
  Speaker 9: third down. Now you've got to match them on first down.
• 45:54
  Speaker 9: You got to match them on second down. And it's
• 45:57
  Speaker 9: a it's a skill level of find trying to find
• 46:00
  Speaker 9: safeties that are fast enough or linebackers that are fast enough.
• 46:03
  Speaker 9: But you also have these tight ends that are six
• 46:05
  Speaker 9: foot seven, two hundred and seventy pounds that can run
• 46:08
  Speaker 9: four or five that you can't put a corner on
• 46:10
  Speaker 9: because they're just gonna wall them out and box them out.
• 46:13
  Speaker 9: And you know, I look at the Travis Kelce from
• 46:15
  Speaker 9: the Chiefs. Who can cover him? Well, you know, you
• 46:18
  Speaker 9: can put a linebacker on him, but he's faster. You
• 46:19
  Speaker 9: can put a safety or a corner, but he's bigger.
• 46:22
  Speaker 9: And that's what everybody's trying to recruit is is the
• 46:25
  Speaker 9: hybrid defensive players that are fast enough to be able
• 46:29
  Speaker 9: to stuff the run, but athletic enough to be able
• 46:31
  Speaker 9: to cover great tight ends and wide outs.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Is it in a pendulum though? Where you get so
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: many hybrids on defense, they're having to stuff all of
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: these offensive playmakers that all of a sudden you're rotating coverage.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: You got fast guys. Well, now all of a sudden,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: everybody's trying to stop the wide open pass game. So
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: you got somebody who's like, let's just run it right
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: back down their throats and then it slowed. Has it
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: just a non stop pendleum?
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: It is?
• 46:51
  Speaker 9: It is a NonStop pendulum. The one thing that will
• 46:54
  Speaker 9: never change is you better have a quarterback. That's the
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: thing that will never change, whether or not that quarterback
• 47:01
  Speaker 9: is a dual threat guy like a Lamar Jackson that
• 47:04
  Speaker 9: can beat you with his arm beat you with his
• 47:06
  Speaker 9: legs or a guy that you know, like Tom Brady was,
• 47:09
  Speaker 9: that's just gonna you know, precision, just carve you up.
• 47:12
  Speaker 9: You still have to have that quarterback. And and uh,
• 47:15
  Speaker 9: that's the first thing that that we're looking for in
• 47:17
  Speaker 9: recruiting is every class can we find that quarterback? As
• 47:20
  Speaker 9: well as when we're when we're scouting teams and stuff,
• 47:23
  Speaker 9: is how's the quarter Because you can, like you said,
• 47:26
  Speaker 9: you can put everybody in charge of the past, but
• 47:28
  Speaker 9: if that kid's just going to run the ball on
• 47:30
  Speaker 9: you as a quarterback, you're in trouble. And so, yeah,
• 47:33
  Speaker 9: it's a it's a pendulum.
• 47:34
  Speaker 7: That's that.
• 47:34
  Speaker 9: It's offensively as well as defensively. It's ever changing.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: How hard would it be to install the wishbone in
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: one week and just surprise the crap out of a team.
• 47:43
  Speaker 9: It would be really, really hard. I believe it would be.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: But the student body laughed. I mean, I thought, I
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: think this whole thing.
• 47:55
  Speaker 9: You know what though, but that's not what anybody wants
• 47:57
  Speaker 9: to see. Then then you know, if if the Cowboys
• 48:00
  Speaker 9: did that, if you said, let's let's Cowways do it,
• 48:02
  Speaker 9: then the NFL is going to be mad because then
• 48:04
  Speaker 9: they're not throwing the ball enough.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: In one game, like a big one game. Like we're
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: running wishbone, we're running triple option. Well that's the thing
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: that helmet you go all in coach.
• 48:14
  Speaker 9: Well, when we were at North Kota State, we had
• 48:16
  Speaker 9: to play Georgia Southern and they were all triple option.
• 48:20
  Speaker 9: And then my first year here, we're so excited we
• 48:23
  Speaker 9: get to go to a bowl game and we get
• 48:24
  Speaker 9: announced and we get to play Navy, and I'm like, oh,
• 48:28
  Speaker 9: this is gonna be a lot of fun, you know,
• 48:30
  Speaker 9: of having to defend triple option and your defensive line
• 48:33
  Speaker 9: getting cut on every play, and like, hey, we're playing Navy.
• 48:36
  Speaker 9: And the guy's like, hey, great, yeah, so you gotta
• 48:39
  Speaker 9: be unbelievably disciplined and know you're going to get cut
• 48:41
  Speaker 9: all the time. So it's yeah, it's really hard to
• 48:45
  Speaker 9: defend in and probably equally as hard.
• 48:47
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 48:48
  Speaker 9: The one rule that changed in college athletics a couple
• 48:51
  Speaker 9: of college football a couple of years ago.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Is the cut block.
• 48:53
  Speaker 9: You can't cut people down on the perimeter anymore like
• 48:57
  Speaker 9: you used to five years ago, three years ago. And
• 49:00
  Speaker 9: that's where some of those wishbone teams are probably having
• 49:02
  Speaker 9: a harder time.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Even though wide receivers used to cut people hard, which
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: they can't do anymore. But they wouldn't even even wide
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: out run just a tendon tear exactly. You hit it
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: wrong fairly one time. Yeah, those couple ocks. That's kind
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: of how Aaron Rodgers ended up tearing his achilles too.
• 49:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah, And that's the thing that's so hard right now
• 49:25
  Speaker 9: with you know, college athletics or college football has changed.
• 49:29
  Speaker 9: We've gotten better on the targeting, right, I mean, we've
• 49:32
  Speaker 9: used to get targeting and then the kid would have
• 49:34
  Speaker 9: the walk of shame because they'd throw him out and
• 49:36
  Speaker 9: you'd have to walk them off, send a support staff member.
• 49:39
  Speaker 9: Now they at least can stay on the sideline. But
• 49:42
  Speaker 9: you know, we've taken some of that. But now we're
• 49:45
  Speaker 9: having more lower body injuries because I can't go high
• 49:49
  Speaker 9: on you across the middle, so I go low on you.
• 49:52
  Speaker 9: And you see some ugly injuries because of it. And
• 49:56
  Speaker 9: you know, there's that happy medium of hiding between the
• 49:58
  Speaker 9: knees and the chest and there's not going to be
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: any penalty. But you know everybody talks about that. That's
• 50:03
  Speaker 9: a split second decision whether or not that guy's coming
• 50:06
  Speaker 9: at me. And if it's a kid that's sixty five,
• 50:08
  Speaker 9: two hundred and fifty pounds, do you really want to
• 50:10
  Speaker 9: go high on that guy?
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: No, the ANSWER's no. Case you're wondering, I know, I
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: wouldn't think you will. Our final five questions, I'm going
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: to start with this one. The rule of a wide
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: open fast offense. You know how to stop them act hurt?
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Just grab your hamstring and get a cramp. Something's got
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: to change as far as if you get hurt, you
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: grab something, you cramp like that's a the rest of
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: the series. You're out, what would you suggest to the
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: rules committee?
• 50:35
  Speaker 9: It's gotten better already, it's gotten a ton better, but
• 50:39
  Speaker 9: probably just the rest of the series. You know, if
• 50:41
  Speaker 9: a guy comes out, if it's it's usually when it's
• 50:44
  Speaker 9: one hundred and four degrees and you're out there for
• 50:45
  Speaker 9: that tenth play that you could potentially have it happened.
• 50:48
  Speaker 9: But then they probably should just be the series. You
• 50:51
  Speaker 9: don't know if it's one more player or a more plays.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know when they're lying. You know when
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: they're lying.
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 50:57
  Speaker 9: Absolutely, so yeah, I think everybody everybody does. It's bad
• 51:00
  Speaker 9: when there's two guys down on the same play.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: They forget who told you? I coach?
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I remember watching Friday Night Lights or something, and and
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: there was the part where they're, oh, it's he's somebody
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: gets hurt and he and the coaches like, get in
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: the room, shoot it up. You're coming back out.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: It's like almost like no choice.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: When someone does get hurt, do you say, like, are
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: you hurt? Like?
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: What do you tell me? You're injured?
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: And this is when we work out. That's what he
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: tells me. Are you that kind of like are you hurt,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: you're injured? Or are you just like you decide in
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: your own seat. No, it's a different world. Now I
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: just go to the trainers and they say, he's out.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: We're checking on him, we're getting something, we're retaping him,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: we're going in for an X ray. We'll come back,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: let you know. And now I just let them tell
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: me is he going to be back or not? Yep,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: he'll be back, coach, you got three more plays and
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: get him ready, and or nope, sorry, coach, he's out.
• 51:55
  Speaker 9: Oh come on, he's not. No, you just listen with
• 51:57
  Speaker 9: the trainers tell you and move on. So that's become
• 52:00
  Speaker 9: which it should be. We should be out of the
• 52:02
  Speaker 9: conversation on that, whether or not the kids healthy or.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Not to play, Do you still take their helmet so
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: they can't you in the game.
• 52:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: You ever had anyone hurt grab their helmet and go
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: back in the game and sneak on?
• 52:13
  Speaker 9: No, I would no, I mean they, I mean they'd
• 52:16
  Speaker 9: have to grab somebody else's holding form.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: I go in different numbers, different changing your number, I
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: become number seventy seven, Like, who is this, Robbie Jones,
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: guy Man Good? I don't know.
• 52:29
  Speaker 9: But if I saw you in seventy seven play an
• 52:31
  Speaker 9: old line, I'd feel pretty good about our change.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: And you should coach, and you should what's the what's
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: the ceiling here?
• 52:36
  Speaker 9: Oh boy?
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 52:37
  Speaker 9: Compete for championships? Uh? And we feel like if we
• 52:42
  Speaker 9: continue to recruit the way we have been and continue
• 52:45
  Speaker 9: to get the right guys and continue to have guys
• 52:47
  Speaker 9: buy in and develop, compete for championships. Nobody knows. I mean,
• 52:53
  Speaker 9: the landscape of college football keeps changing with conference realignment
• 52:56
  Speaker 9: and people joining, and now beginning next year, there's gonna
• 52:59
  Speaker 9: be twelve teams in the playoff, and so if you
• 53:03
  Speaker 9: get into that tournament, because I used to be a
• 53:05
  Speaker 9: part of tournament play in the FCS. If you get
• 53:08
  Speaker 9: in that tournament, anything can happen.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: That's so exciting to me. And the argument often was, well,
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: you want to keep the value of each game in
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: college football, but we also love the NFL and there's
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: value to each game. But also the playoffs are freaking awesome.
• 53:22
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and there has to be more value to every game.
• 53:26
  Speaker 9: But if a team slips up or slips up twice,
• 53:28
  Speaker 9: they ought to still have an opportunity. And that's unfortunate
• 53:31
  Speaker 9: right now because if a blue blood loses a game,
• 53:35
  Speaker 9: they're wanting to jump off that team and that team's done.
• 53:38
  Speaker 9: It takes a while for teams to peak, especially right
• 53:41
  Speaker 9: now because of the transfer portal, teams, players changing teams,
• 53:46
  Speaker 9: people having new rosters every year essentially or new players
• 53:50
  Speaker 9: that sometimes it takes you half a season and the
• 53:53
  Speaker 9: best teams at the end of the season and what
• 53:54
  Speaker 9: you're trying to get.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Coach, very stressful job you have. How do you get
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: your mind off football? You have a boat, you got
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: jet skis, I.
• 54:02
  Speaker 9: Go play golf, which we should have went and played golf.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: We should we should have. Yeah, now you tell us
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: that because all you had to do is have mentioned
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: maybe and we come last week, and since.
• 54:14
  Speaker 9: It's an open week, we probably could have figured it
• 54:16
  Speaker 9: out if it weren't an open week.
• 54:18
  Speaker 7: So no, that's what I do.
• 54:19
  Speaker 9: I try to go play golf, get my mind off it,
• 54:22
  Speaker 9: and got a couple of great golf courses around here
• 54:25
  Speaker 9: that we go out and play. If not, sit in
• 54:27
  Speaker 9: the back, cook out, jump in the pool, just try
• 54:30
  Speaker 9: to try to get away from it as best you can.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Do you ever, throw your clubs on the team playing
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: and try to get there a day early and we's
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: around in.
• 54:37
  Speaker 9: No, I don't think that would probably work. They'll probably wonder, oh, sure,
• 54:41
  Speaker 9: you're a player's coach. Now you're just going out? Can
• 54:44
  Speaker 9: we go to a lot of players they want to
• 54:46
  Speaker 9: go with me?
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Last question, you talk about the importance of having a
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: quarterback in every class at least attend PEP to do that.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: So let's say that you sign a four or five
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: star quarterback last year, and now you're trying to recruit me.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: I'm another four or five star guy. But I mean,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: there's there's this guy one year ahead of me. How
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: in the world do you get me to come here
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: when you got a guy in front of me, a.
• 55:06
  Speaker 9: Lot of those four and five stars think they're going
• 55:08
  Speaker 9: to beat everybody out. So that's one positive thing is
• 55:11
  Speaker 9: now I can beat that guy out. The second thing
• 55:14
  Speaker 9: is they they know, they see how the evolution of
• 55:18
  Speaker 9: football is. Somebody may leave also, you know, people get hurt.
• 55:23
  Speaker 9: You know, every year that I've been here, other than
• 55:26
  Speaker 9: our first, our quarterback has missed a little bit of time.
• 55:29
  Speaker 9: So there's always that opportunity. And you know, if you're
• 55:32
  Speaker 9: still selling the fact that we had in North Kota State,
• 55:36
  Speaker 9: we had Brock Jensen, who was the all time winning
• 55:39
  Speaker 9: his quarterback and FCS at one time, and we brought
• 55:42
  Speaker 9: Carson Wentzon. Carson sat for a couple of years and
• 55:45
  Speaker 9: then Carson won a couple championships and then we had
• 55:48
  Speaker 9: Easton Stick come in and Easton Stick ended up being
• 55:50
  Speaker 9: the all time winning his quarterback in FCS football and
• 55:52
  Speaker 9: behind him was Trey Lance we brought in. So we
• 55:55
  Speaker 9: brought in the next guy every time that they knew
• 56:00
  Speaker 9: that their opportunity would come, and when they had that
• 56:02
  Speaker 9: opportunity with the type of offense we run, and same
• 56:05
  Speaker 9: thing here with the type of offense that that we run.
• 56:08
  Speaker 9: When I get my shot and I make the most
• 56:09
  Speaker 9: of it. It's going to give me that opportunity to play.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: At the next level.
• 56:12
  Speaker 9: Coach, thanks for the time, absolutely, thanks for coming to Manhattan.
• 56:15
  Speaker 7: Kansas.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: This this feels like where I come from. I think
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: that's why I root for Kansas State and like my
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: parallel universe of Kansas State to come from. I'm from Arkansas.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: It's all we had. It's all we had was University
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: of Arkansas. And like we hated Texas I mentioned earlier,
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: I still hae Texas. We heard that, and it's like
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: now I hate Kansas too, and be honest with your coach,
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: and so it makes me love you even more. Those
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: to come back for a game. Yeah, I hear you.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: We eat crap out of Kansas basketball last year. But
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: like their fans are just like nasty. You know, you
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: don't have to say anything. I'll say it. You were
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: just talking to you talking over here. But it's like,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: my love, I enjoy what you're doing with the program,
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: and then I understand how the fans this program feel.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: But then it's the parallels of I just can't take
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Kansas man. That's it. Coach.
• 57:03
  Speaker 9: Okay, well, we appreciate you guys, all right, there we
• 57:06
  Speaker 9: go and come back for the game.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Man, you will get you a spot all rank you coach,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Happy birthday to us, all right, yeah, your dinner in
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: boys Ys the Chilies.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, gets to pay for but invoices. That may
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: take a little while for our our department to get county,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: but something will happen surely. Okay, thank you.
• 57:22
  Speaker 9: Don't want to just leave me a credit card.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Now we're we're good. Cowboys minus two with the Chargers, Eddie.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're gonna cover. They're gonna win that game.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Of course. Kevin Chargers, what just piss you off? Yep,
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: because he hates it that you enjoy his team losing.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the speech I gave my kids.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: It's the NFL. You have no idea what you're talking about.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: We always why not speak to yourself?
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: Mean, if you're gonna tell somebody else they have no
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: idea what they're talking about, you should say to yourself.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Well, no, it's just my kids always basing on their
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: last week performance. It's like, look that's that's the way.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Look they look like terror. They looked terrible last week.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: This week they're gonna come back and look like, oh
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: my gosh, they're great again. And then we're gonna be like, well,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: where are the Cowboys? I don't know who they are?
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Are they the cowboys that played the forty nine Ers?
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Are the cowys that played the Chargers? Who knows they're
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: gonna kill the Chargers. They're gonna be back to.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Where they were. But you just said nobody knows anything,
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: including yourself. Well that's true, But what I'm saying is
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: just go the opposite of what you think. Yeah, I
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: think the Cowboys cover Seahawks. Bang all that Bengals minus three?
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Is Joe Burrow healthy?
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: Not?
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: My sources say, no, who's your source? I can't tell you.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: You have a source for Yeah, yeah, it's not your wife.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: I can't tell you. But my source says he's not
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: fully healthy yet, even though they took him off the
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: practice the injury report. But I still take I'm taking
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Seattle mostly because I bought him in that league. I
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: need them to win. I can't speak anything bad in
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: their existence. Ravens minus three at the Titans. They both
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: went to London at different times, which is interesting. The
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: Ravens went for a whole week, and I think the
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Titans just land and get off the plane and go play.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: All right, we're here, guys, get your pads, let's go.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: We got.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: No Yeah, they'll wait until the last minute. Ravens minus
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: three and a half in London, Go Eddie, I'm gonna
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: go Titans. Ravens been looking weird lately. Oh well they're
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: dropping balls like crazy.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not finishing games, doing weird stuff.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: Crazy Ravens.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Titans. Guy owned them, I'm biased. Oh
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: you own them? Yeah? I have six teams in my league.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: I thought you really owned the team. Commanders of Falcons
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: Falcons minus two and a.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Half Falcons b Jehan's awesome.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: Let's go Commanders.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: I go Commanders to Commander's kind of salty and I
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: think two. We're gonna start seeing teams eat themselves on purpose,
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: but not on purpose like Minnesota. There's no way Justin
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Jefferson comes back. If they're trying to get that number
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: one pick and they're trie Kirk Cousins, Like, if they're
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: gonna commit, commit because Kirk Cousins, it doesn't most of
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: his money this last year, he's got like ten million,
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: so you pay him, but most of that money on
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: his contract is already bonus money he's got, so he's
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: been paid. So what's it's a rental. It's pretty cheap rental.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: If you get Kirk Cousins, I would trade him. I
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: would not bring Justin Jefferson back. I'd lose every freaking game.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Get on, like Kayleb Williams.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: Patriots got that doory.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Well, they don't have to change anything. They just keep
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: going as is. They don't have to make brown been
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: thrown with the right arm. Sorry magef that thing with
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: the right arm? Who knows? Geez, Niners and Browns nine
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: ers four and a half minor four and a half niner.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: The easy pick is San Francisco.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: They had a big win and they're saying that Deshaun
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: may not even play.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: So did you play last week?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so here we go. Let's go Niners again.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: That's why those games. I would stay away from. This
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: one really, Oh because yeah, you never know, guys, No,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: not because what you told your kid, I mean, you
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: never know, you never know. It seems so these games
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: it seem like they're just guaranteed slam dunks.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Usually they aren't. Yeah, well I thought about that too.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: Like last week when the Cowboys played the Niners. Everyone
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: picked the Niners, you know, like all the pregame commentators whatever, Niners,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: nine Ers, nine ers. And then Maria Taylor goes, well,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: I gotta go to the Cowboys because every time we
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: picked one team, they always end up being the one
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: that loses. That's not the case, Like that wasn't the
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: case on Sunday. That's not Niners are gonna win this
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: one for sure.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: But will they cover?
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, they'll kill I think they beat them by fourteen?
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Is anymore? Is that your guarantee? Yes, you're you're gonna
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: put on your broken promise? Yes, it is all right,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: commit Eddie to the broken promises. Jar He's got the
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Niners minus four and a half. That is my pick, Kevin,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: who's your promise?
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna go with.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Really, yeah, what let's double up on it?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: Uh uh okay? Not the pauseitive. The only thing is
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: it's up to seven now, I.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Think, yeah, seven, so we have it's now up to seven?
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Fifty I printed my sheet out of a four and
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: a half. Yeah, so that's what I was like, I
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: don't Eddie. I did just say seven though, right, Yeah, okay,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: I said seven? Okay, cool, So let's seven. I'm gonna
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: go with them at seven. Okay, Well then I'm gonna
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: just come trow my sheet away and move on because
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: I printed this off like two hours ago, so outdated. Yeah,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: and that's yours, Kevin. Yeah, Read, you have a promise
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: this week. Yeah, I'm gonna go Commanders after what y'all
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: just said, because I was gonna go forty nine ers,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: but now I'm gonna go command Bro. Triple up. Yeah,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: let's go triple up.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: Nevin, you feel good about Patriots?
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: Read? Why are you asking quest?
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: Have you watched them?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 7: Wait? Who do you have?
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: Washington reads?
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: Walk in? Pull timid Washington. Sometimes if it's cold, you
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: don't want to get your thing wet because it's like
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: wait and slow. Just jump in, you'll be timid.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll go Commanders plus two and a half.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: I like that bet though. And finally mine is already
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: bet mine, so let me pull it up and then
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: we'll get lunchbox.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 6: Here.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Mine is, Duke, what's it at?
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: I bet it at?
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: Duke?
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: What is your papers? Minus? Well, Duke minus two is
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: what I bet it at. But I want to grab
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: it if it's better. I want to take that now
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: you put you looking at it. So I'm gonna go
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Duke over North Carolina State. I took the two and
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: a half when half on my thing here, that's good.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the best off, all right. So I
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: have a Duke minus two and a half. All right,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: very good? So yours? How much as much moneys in
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: the pot?
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: We still have only our money. They haven't paid anything.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but us. You know what, every show that you
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: don't pay for now on be five dollars interests. Okay,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: I got it, So you have it on the next show.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: But I'll go to the gas station right now. You
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: leave during the show, I'll be back. All right.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: We're gonna bring Nchoks in. Talking about Kansas for a second.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: He's warning his Kansas hoodie, Kansas one of these we
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: were talking about the entitled Bowl. Yeah, definitely entitled Kansas
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: basketball for sure. It's not a shot towards you. I
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: want to be entitled. I want to be Alabama. I
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: want to be USC I want to be teams that
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: want to fire their coach if they don't have a
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Final four season. I want to be teams that seem
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: like jerks because they win all the time and it
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: gets annoying. But we're not Kansas? Is that team? Do
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: they really feel like Jerks? I mean yeah, when we
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: meet you guys, it's it's CUAA tournament. I was last year.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: The Kansas crew is none nice? Isn't their mean?
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean we were sad and depressed. But I mean,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 8: I don't know if we're entitled.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: I feel like you're entitled to win basketball games. You
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: feel like Kansas plays they should win. You feel like
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: Kansas should win the Big Twelve?
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like you if you show up and you do
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: what you normally do, you should win or something wrong.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 8: I mean, I would say that we have the best
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 8: coach in the Big Twelve, and it's impressive what he's done.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 8: Even when we have teams that aren't very good, he
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 8: finds a way to win the Big Twelve, which is incredible.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: So do you expect to win the Big Twelve?
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: Yes?
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: Every year?
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 8: Yes, There's some years that I'm like there's no way,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 8: there's they're not good enough, and then they do it
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 8: and I'm like, holy crap.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: And do you feel like people should just respect you
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: regardless because you're Kansas?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: Your title? Yeah, but it's okay. I want to be
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: in title as a sports program. That's why I hate
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: Texas because they win. It sucks Texas wins what generally
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: at sports? They are usually number one in the old
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: all sports is together them.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 8: Camford diving and swimming. No one cares.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Regardless Texas baseball championships. Yeah, they have good basketball teams.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: They're just always relevant, always and even if.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: They're not, they still are because they're people are angry
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: at them for not being relevant. So Texas hate Texas
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: because of that. Always pay to Texas, Tennessee. That's been Alabama, Georgia.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: I hate everybody the wins. So Kansas is one of
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: those schools that we hate. Why did your coach get
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: off scott free?
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 8: Because the NCAA realized they have no power. They have
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 8: no power. They started paying players anyway, and they realized
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 8: this is so stupid. We wasted so much money and
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 8: resources on this crap and we don't really want to
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 8: waste our time with it.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: Will you catch eddy up on what happened? Thank you?
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: So they'll have a confused look at my face. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: that's my fault. Stet it up.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: I did see the headline where like there's no charges
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: or whatever, like the penalty is not that bad.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 8: Sure, they got five to one level one violations that
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 8: were supposed to like ban us from the postseason. Bill
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 8: self was going to be in deep trouble. They were
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 8: going to put on probation imustration for illegal benefits.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: Team cut them off, Yeah, all of them.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah, because allegedly they were funneling payments through Adidas. We
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 8: were paying players and what we what Kansas said was
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 8: we had no idea this was going on. This was
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 8: a rogue Adidas employee that was paying the players. We
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 8: didn't have anything to do with it. So it was
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 8: a five year back and forth of like, oh, let
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 8: me see your text messages and what do we find
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 8: out that Kansas didn't know anything.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: So they did get paid. They did what do we think.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: We know that the NCAA just doesn't have the power
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: and now players just got lucky. Kansas got lucky with
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: the timing of getting in trouble.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 8: Right, And same with Oklahoma State. The Oklahoma State was
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 8: the only one that was that they really got They
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 8: got banned on this postseason.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: That was the only one.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 8: And here's the thing, and that was also Adidas. Yes,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 8: it was the same guy, same little And listen, do
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 8: you think deep down that Kansas was paying the players? Yes, absolutely,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 8: but goes titled everybody pays the players, we suck. Oh man,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 8: everybody he pays players do plays players. North Carolina? I
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 8: mean North Carolina made up fake classes. There was not
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 8: even real classes, and we're just putting them on their
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 8: report cards like that and they got no trouble. Yeah,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 8: that's crazy. I mean it's like they did it for years.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 8: It's like, oh, but now we have to take down
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 8: the Final four banner.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: Really, Oh that's one of the penal No, and that
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: would never even bother me, Like, okayak trophy. Now I
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: still got to experience that. You can't. You can't do
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: men in black to me. If you could, that would
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: suck and I would be like, you can have it back.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: I want to keep it. But if you can't go
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: men in black, I still enjoy it. I don't have
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: banner my house anyway.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, the kids, they vacated some wins, so now
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 8: they're nothing winning his basketball.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: Program in history. Oh that's in the books.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they didn't go to the Final four, and eighteen
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 8: eighteen there was only three teams in the Final four now,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 8: and Bill self only has four Final four appearances instead
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 8: of five.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's tough, but I would just say five.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: What are they going to do? Yeah?
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 8: What can they say?
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: He did go to five? Yeah, but in like thirty
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: years when you look back, you're like, well that's not
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: there says four except for the asterisk, and you're like,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: only are the asterisk? Oh, he's all I guess he
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: was five.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 8: So it sucks, but whatever, as long as we and
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 8: then they said are reaching the postseason the NCAA tournament.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 8: We had an n Cuba record, but that is now
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 8: snapped because we didn't make.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: It in twenty eighteen. Wow wow finger printes.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got lucky that players are being paid
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: now because because of that, they're going, eh, who cares? Now,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: it's for the same reason reggieus should be given his
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: heisman back. Give it to him.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 8: It's so stupid they took it away in the first place.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 8: All these people, I mean, Zion Williamson got paid by
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 8: Duke Oh yeah, and we act like, oh no, because
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 8: coach k We're gonna but who cares. Everybody was playing.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: Everybody there was a dude that I went to high
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: school with.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 8: He played golf at the University of Texas and he
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 8: comes out one day and guess what, brand news had
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 8: a golf club sitting in the back of his car.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: Who's that not gonna say? You guys, listen to Lunchbox
• 1:08:52
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• 1:08:55
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• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: Thanks all right, that's it, Mike, We good, all right,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: I gotta go. I gotta go to a meeting. Thanks
• 1:09:02
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• 1:09:06
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• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: big dude with little arms, he says, he's a moll,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: just a little there's nothing little. And I looked everywhere.
• 1:09:16
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• 1:09:17
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• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: which I don't know which one's gonna be yet even decided.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: We're waiting on a wins. We're waiting on uh we're
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: just waiting.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: Hey, I think I'm gonna go back to Western Kentucky
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: for a game next month.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: I thought you want Cincinnati for I'm doing.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Both Sam Houston State's playing Western Kentucky, So I think
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: I want to make the drive and go check out
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: that game.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: That's really cool. Excited about that. Oh, I got up
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: date that I can't wait to give you, guys. I
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: told Daddie on the phone, but I can't. Yeah, it's
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: a good one. Just until it's a good one, I mean,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: could you could? I had a Darkansas and plan next year.
• 1:10:01
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• 1:10:05
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• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: Bye whistle.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Oh where do holdo?