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(VIDEO) "TOUCH KINK" A NEW DOCUMENTARY BY MAX CAREY · CALL ME MISTRESS

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  I've been involved in doing stuff around human sexuality and
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  kinky my whole life. As I get older, I'm more
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  interested in and kink and helping that mainstream a little
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  bit. So I did a documentary called
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  Touch Kink, which kind of goes through the reasons why people
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  shouldn't be afraid of kink. And in fact, I actually started.
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  I think it's a superior way to interact, at least the, the
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  mindset of kink, of following those the, the, the circle.
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  The reason I have the, the big O in touch kink is a, it's a
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  circle. You know, if I talk to you and I
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  don't assume anything, I just ask you who you are and what you
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  like and, you know, tell me a little bit about yourself and so
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  on and negotiate something. And if we decide we're going to
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  try something, then we work on the consent and make sure that
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  it's not just consent, not just a yeah, but a hell yeah.
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  Like an enthusiastic consent. I think a lot of people
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  sometimes take yes, is, is, is the end all and beyond.
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  I don't think it is because I think people will say yes to
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  things that they're not really ready for sometimes.
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  So it's your job to sort of make sure they're ready for what
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  they're saying yes to. So it's enthusiastic informed
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  consent and then, you know, playing and doing whatever that
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  is and then checking in with the person afterwards, the
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  aftercare. And you know, the more I think
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  about that circle, it's sort of the way forward for everything,
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  for business. You know, I shouldn't be just
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  trying to take from you. I should be able to try and make
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  a circle and make sure you're happy with whatever we did.
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  Personal life. We should, you know, shouldn't
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  just be taking. It should always be this kind of
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  circle. And I think it's also a way
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  forward culturally. A lot of men I've talked to are
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  kind of like, well, what do I do?
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  How am I supposed to behave around women anymore?
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  My dad used to say, you basically kind of put your hand
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  on the shoulder and you you work down to the thing.
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  And then you try and wrap around to the boob and see how far you
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  can get before they say no. You know, that's kind of how it
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  was apparently back in the day. So a lot of guys said, well,
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  what are we supposed to do now? You know what, what's the rule?
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  You know? And I said, well, it's actually
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  better than it was before because the other person also
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  has the responsibility to take charge of their own pleasure and
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  their own whatever. So you will have to ask them
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  what they like, what kinds of things they like.
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  Maybe they like that. Maybe they'll be more raring to
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  go than you are, you know, But it doesn't really matter.
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  You got to have those conversations.
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  And then the end of the day, it's not that you can't smack
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  someone on the ass anymore. You can long as that's longer,
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  Damn sure that's what they like, you know, and if I just because
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  you smack one person on the ass doesn't mean the next person's
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  going to be down with that or the person even got their ass
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  spanked is down with someone else doing it.
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  But the truth is it's better than it was before because we
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  have to be more open. We have to be more honest and we
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  can make our own worlds the way we want.
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  And, you know, there are lots of people that are kinky and left
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  love 50s household where they basically go back to a 50s style
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  thing where, you know, the man or the woman fetches the
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  slippers and the man or the woman cooks the dinner or the,
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  the, the, however they want to identify.
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  So I, I, I think kink is more than just this sort of thing on
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  the edge that some people think is odd.
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  It, it really is a way forward for a lot of people.
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  It's a home for letting them discuss.
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  That's why I love it. I prefer interacting with kinky
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  people just because you the conversations are more fun.
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  And of course, you do hit occasionally people, but maybe
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  you're, they want to talk about something you're not interested,
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  interested in or vice versa. And you can say, OK, that's your
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  kink and that's cool, but it's not mine.
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  So, you know, I think it's just such a great way forward.
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  And that's why I wanted to make this documentary.
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  You know, what you're doing is you're bringing in like a whole
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  new revolution of, of the concept of BDSM that people
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  don't see, you know, and like you said, people are so
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  uneducated about it and they don't, they don't really grasp
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  concept when they're not in the lifestyle.
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  So they automatically think the worst, you know, because there's
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  a lot of misconceptions about it.
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  Yeah, that was, I mean, I, I've been fortunate enough in my life
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  to get a travel and live in lots of countries.
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  And I can't believe I had that misconception about a dominatrix
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  myself. And I, I still remember being so
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  surprised how sweet this person was and how intelligent they
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  were. And and I, I really thought,
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  well, it doesn't seem much of it, but, you know, realizing
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  later that you're actually not much of A Dom if you have to
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  tell people you're a Dom and you shouldn't.
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  And we all start off as human beings and then we decide, you
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  know, maybe you want to be a Dom for someone.
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  Maybe you don't even want to be a Dom for that person.
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  Doesn't mean you have to some people it's more like a coat
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  they put on some people it's more of their personality.
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  But even when it's more of their personality, it's nobody's
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  anything all the time. And that that is a thing.
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  I mean, it's I often make the comparison with the gay
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  community to what's happening in kink now because I mean, I
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  understand there's it's a different thing, but there is
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  parallels in terms of there was this cliche 40 years ago, what
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  it was to be gay. You know, you didn't expect a
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  high-powered business guy or army guy or whatever, like these
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  sort of much use, but of course they are too.
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  It's not, there's no one, it's not like there was the cliche
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  that they started with. And then as time went on, you
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  realized, well, gay people, like anything else, come in a million
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  different types. And there's no cliche there
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  either. And same with kinky people.
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  They, they, you can start with the, the, the, the cliches, but
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  you know, it's not the truth. So we, we, it takes process to
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  people coming out and people educating and people talking
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  about this. That's why it was so important
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  in my film to have somebody that really did think it was weird
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  and really did think kinky people were weird, to sort of go
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  through it and see if she found. What I hope the audience would
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  find is that there's some really useful knowledge there, and in
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  many ways it's a superior way forward.
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  Am I saying everyone is kinky as somehow superior?
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  Of course not. But it is a good thing to know
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  about. It's a good thing, especially
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  navigating modern relationships, taking charge of your own body
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  to, you know, take heart of your own pleasure and who who you are
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  and how you to have those tools to be able to, you know, assert
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  yourself or ask for what you want or, you know, they just
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  having that language, having that language of kink makes it
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  more likely that you're going to connect.
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  So that's why I think it's super important that people understand
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  kink. And that's the results.
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  I've been to 18 film festivals now and the film's been shown to
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  thousands and thousands and thousands of people.
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  And, and one of the biggest compliments I can get is it from
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  people is, you know, thank you. This really gave me a new way to
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  look at, look at the world, to look at, look at the things.
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  And that's really something I aspire to.
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  So in your documentary explain it to people because you have 4
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  different people in your documentary and it's based on
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  them. So tell the audience about it.
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  Yeah, well, the truth is it's a documentary.
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  It's not a, a a fiction. So I mean, I, I met January who
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  introduced me to more people that introduced me.
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  So it's the people that I met. I actually met literally
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  hundreds of people. But I I focused in on the people
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  where something happened to them.
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  There was some sort of Arc 1 was just a a good old boy from Texas
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  that was very articulate about his interest in masochism and
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  being submissive and, and how, you know, he believes how that
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  happened and why it happened. And his relationship with that
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  one was a dominatrix that frankly was very new to the
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  scene. She really kind of decided to do
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  and just jumped all the way in, you know, bit naively really in
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  kind of becoming the poster child for what it was to be a
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  dominatrix in London. And unfortunately took a lot of
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  Flack for that, far more than she realized, which kind of
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  illustrates why how the community is still marginalized
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  to some extent or can be used to.
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  Again, could be a reason, you know, it shouldn't be.
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  But you know, it's one of those things you can say to sort of
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  try and marginalized somebody, you know, and the it's sad that
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  it's the reality of it. So it's her story and how she
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  went through it. And then Grace, who was someone
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  who was curious. I've met her before when I was
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  traveling. I kind of sensed she was very
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  dominant woman, I'll be honest. But I don't think she knew what
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  that was so much. She'd always said she liked her
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  military boys and some men found her bitchy.
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  And me, I'm like, you're a dominatrix and you don't even
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  know it. That's OK.
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  So I put her through this course and I was hoping that she would
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  discover what I suspected, but I was going to put it either way.
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  And she did. She really started started
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  clicking for her why some kinds of men really liked being with
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  her and other men not so much. And, and the way she was and it
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  was OK to have sort of more a female led relationship and that
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  was OK too. So and now she she married the
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  guy, got 2 beautiful kids and happier than you could imagine
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  by just discovering this world and and giving her the courage
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  to be who she is. And now she's, last time I saw
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  her was at a screening in San Diego with her big posse of
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  girls all following her. You know, she's definitely
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  become the queen, the queen bitch.
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  And I mean that loving way. It's amazing how people, you
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  know, people always ask me, they're like, can you teach me
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  how to be a Dom? And it's like you really can't
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  teach people. It's like it's either ingrained
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  in you. I can teach you to top people,
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  but a lot of people don't even realize their capabilities.
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  You know, like you said, she didn't have any idea that she
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  was a dominant. You know it.
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  It's interesting. It is fascinating and I think we
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  all have I don't believe anybody's 100% anything.
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  I don't think you're 100% anything.
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  And and this, you know, if you've ever been to a group
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  where you watch a bunch of submissives or slaves types on
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  their own, eventually a hierarchy starts to emerge. 1 is
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  just tired of the total chaos and decides to sort of take
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  charge. So even someone who identifies
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  as slave or submissive of will will be one with a slightly more
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  dominant tendency than the others.
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  And that person usually sort of ends up taking control of the
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  situation. So I think we're everything.
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  I think we have masculine traits, I think we have feminine
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  traits. I think we have, you know,
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  dominant traits, submissive traits.
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  A lot of it is called like I always identified more as a Dom
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  and going through this, I'm finding myself more switchy
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  because I'm like, well, you know, I felt like I was sort of
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  the Dom because I was supposed to be because I was a guy.
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  And then I met so many wonderful people that explained it to me.
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  And I'm like, I'm missing out on a lot of really fun stuff here.
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  So yeah, I could be switchy. I can, I can, I can you want me
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  to call you mistress or goddess or whatever, you know, that
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  that's it would be my honor, you know, if we're going to play
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  this dynamic, you know. So yeah, I think it's just
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  acknowledging that we're all multiple people we have and it's
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  OK. That's another thing I think
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  that I got very much from this film and my experience is that
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  some people have this notion that you have to be the same
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  thing all the time. You can be the high-powered kick
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  ass businessman by day and the little, you know, slave by
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  night. And that actually might balance
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  you off better, you know, and I, I think it's not as uncommon and
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  people, people will tend to want to think of you and what as one
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  way. Like I previously thought about
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  what a dominatrix was, but when you get to know them, because
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  no, actually that's not not the case at all.
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  So I think people embracing the full spectrum of their feelings
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  and emotions and the spectrums of who they can be or want to be
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  in different situations, I think is also super healthy.
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  Absolutely. I, you know, I feel like, you
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  know, doing this docu series is just the simple fact that it's
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  so cathartic people to be able to express themselves, you know,
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  and they miss that when they suppress themselves in kink.
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  You know, I saw a client the other day and, you know, he
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  wanted forced feminization. And we did the whole scene of
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  forced feminization. And then afterwards, after the
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  scene and after everything was done, he was just like, yeah,
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  I'm done. You know, it's like he felt such
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  shame and I said you should embrace your, your feminine
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  side. And he's like, yeah, maybe next
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  time I'm good. Or not or not.
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  You know, I've been thinking about shame a lot lately and,
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  you know, when I think about some of the kinks that I liked,
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  a lot of it was stuff that I had a little bit of shame about and
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  that actually made it hotter. You know, I'm, I'm actually
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  sometimes worried about this. Like, I mean, there's an
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  important, we have to recognize healthy shame and unhealthy
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  shame, but sometimes it's fun to have like sort of these cultural
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  things that you're supposed to be like this, this, that maybe
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  and then break it. And it's OK to sort of.
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  So no, I, I didn't really want you.
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  I mean, if he's come to you for a fortune, for a feminization
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  thing, he's definitely been thinking about this, you know,
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  but maybe he needs, let's get back to reality before he goes
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  out the door. And I've heard that from a lot
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  of Doms that they notice when the person's out the door,
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  sometimes they'll give a slight insult or a slight like, oh,
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  that was nothing kind of thing. It's almost like, like getting
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  them ready to hit the world again.
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  So it's, you kind of have to ignore it and think of it as
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  almost a compliment that you've done so well, you've taken this
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  person. They, they have to sort of shake
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  it off a little bit because they know the world isn't like that.
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  So it, it, it's, it's, it's kind of fun to have these things,
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  the, these things that we, I'm actually sometimes wondering
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  what's going to happen if, you know, young people, especially
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  in California, everybody's Poly, everybody's fluid, this fluid
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  that. And that's great.
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  But I'm just wondering what, what kind of fun are they, What
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  kind of kinks are they going to have?
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  Let's pretend we're not fluid, but let's pretend we're not.
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  I don't know. I guess we can always find our
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  kinks, but it's like my favorite kinks are all stuff that I had
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  to work through. It's too fun.
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  It really is. And it's so fun to, you know, we
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  have big lifestyle parties and, you know, just to I, I kind of
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  try to gauge people to see really what they like.
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  And before I even ask them questions, just to see, you
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  know, I'm not trying to be superficial, but you know,
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  sometimes you can just look at a person and just know what they
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  want, you know, it's so interesting.
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  Well, you, you feel it. I mean you, you do.
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  You have a vast amount of experience and obviously like
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  I've sometimes they, you know, tell me like I know within 3
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  seconds of meeting somebody what the kinks are.
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  But that's just like if you were a, a doctor and someone coughs
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  this way and twitches that way, you probably know exactly what
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  the illness is going to be. Just it's experience.
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  Yeah, you might be wrong, but I mean, you've got this all this
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  experience when people cough this way and have this twitch,
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  it's XYZ, you know, Oh well, once in a while it could be
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  something else, but it's generally XYZ, you know, So I
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  think that comes from experience, which is, you know,
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  which is cool. And also I think there you'll
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  you'll attract a certain kind of clientele.
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  You know, I'm I'm more, I'm more interacting with dominant
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  dominatrix now than I did before.
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  But frankly, you know, if I was in an event or whatever, I would
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  be pleasant, but I wouldn't really be going up to you and
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  going anything. If you look dominant, if you
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  look submissive, then hi, you know, but now I'm different.
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  But so you're only, you're also going to, certain kinds of
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  people are going to approach you as well.
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  So I think that's half the battle, you know?
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  Absolutely. So you said it.
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  It was difficult to get people to actually talk about, you
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  know, their kinks because, you know, again, it's so taboo.
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  But you had a lot of success in talking to these people.
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  So what were some of the fetishes that they had?
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  Oh boy. Everything.
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  Yeah, I mean, needles, rope, leather, stockings, you know,
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  impact you. I mean, this the the whole, I
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  actually interviewed almost 300 people.
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  I I didn't use everyone, but yeah, I mean, everybody's
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  different. Everybody's got different kinks.
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  The one thing I did discover that I thought was really
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  interesting and I like to talk about a lot is that, and I think
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  even kinky people sometimes make this this mistake, you know, you
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  walk into a room and you see maybe 12 couples getting spanked
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  and looks exactly the same. You think, oh, OK, they
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  obviously like it and you'll probably know, but I think a lot
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  of people won't. I can guarantee every one of
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  those having a completely unique experience. 1 might be
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  fetishizing the sound of that smack. 11 might be fetishizing
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  the the, the pain. Someone else might be a top, a
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  dominant who's having his sub top him because he or she want
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  just likes the sensation on her orgasma.
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  But it all looks the same. But sometimes they're even
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  though you think, oh, they're fetishizing spanking.
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  No one's could be fetishizing pleasure.
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  Another one's sound and one's smell.
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  One could be fetishizing switching a role for a moment to
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  you know, this, the role it it's it's infinite.
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  It truly is infinite. What people feel.
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  I tend to boil it down to three things.
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  It's my sort of view because, you know, universal theory, you
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  know, in that moment there's something that they're
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  fetishizing. They're thinking about one
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  thing, they're in a certain role in that moment where they're
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  going to be this sadly a thing and they're craving a certain
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  sensation. It's not always orgasmic.
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  Sometimes it might be pain, satisfaction, pride, you know, a
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  million other things, but it usually dials down to those
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  through three things, you know, they're fetishizing.
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  You know, something's in their mind that's like really is their
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  focus. They're feeling a certain role
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  in that moment and they, they want at the end of the session
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  be more than anything to feel like they've been a good boy and
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  survived it or something. I mean, it's different for
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  different people, but it's always seems to boil down to
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  those three things. And that seems to work across
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  every every kink you know. Yeah, you know, interestingly
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  enough too, when I've talked to people, because I really like to
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  delve in the the psychological aspect of it, I ask a lot of
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  people, you know, why do you think you want this?
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  And a lot of them, they just don't even care, you know, they,
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  they just, they want to feel and they want to do what they want
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  and they really don't care what even got them to that point.
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  So it's like, I all mean, just do it, you know?
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  Absolutely. Where do you see yourself at
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  this point? Are you going to do another?
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  Yeah, I'm working on a I'm working on A10 part television
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  series now exploring sexuality and technology.
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  I'm, I'm under agreement to, to write 24 different episode
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  outlines and then the, the this, that this touch kink I did on my
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  own nickel. So I had total creative control.
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  When you take money from a broadcaster or someone else,
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  they tend to want to a say in things.
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  So I'm developing the series. It may or may not go into
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  production. I hope so, but I'm being paid to
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  sort of develop it and I would like to keep going down there.
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  I think it's endlessly fascinating.
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  I would love to do a whole thing just on latex fetishes, a whole
• 19:11
  thing just on rope, a whole thing on the Spanko community, a
• 19:14
  whole thing on, you know, this merge of sex tech and how it's
• 19:18
  how it's emerging different parts of the world and you know,
• 19:21
  the generational difference between young women.
• 19:23
  So you have no problem go buying 5 vibrators or, you know, my
• 19:26
  mother would be horrified. You know, it's like, you know,
• 19:29
  it's interesting cultural shifts as well.
• 19:32
  There's there's a lot of really interesting subjects.
• 19:36
  For whatever reason, though, sex is always a little bit of a
• 19:40
  tough sell, you know, Which is funny because they use it to
• 19:42
  sell the stuff. But I don't know.
• 19:44
  It's one of those things that people like to watch in private,
• 19:47
  I guess. So it's just finding out and how
• 19:49
  it's going to go and how it packages up.
• 19:51
  But yeah, I'm going to keep making movie documentaries about
• 19:54
  kink and about human sexuality because that's what interests me
• 19:57
  the most. It is.
• 19:59
  It's extremely interesting and. Like I said, it's it was really
• 20:03
  cool to watch honestly and so many I I just wouldn't even back
• 20:07
  and watch some of the clips because I thought, oh, this is
• 20:09
  so cool. So I'll have to I'm going to
• 20:12
  send the link and set it up when we broadcast this episode.
• 20:16
  That way people can go and watch it.
• 20:18
  Yeah, it's now available for video on demand.
• 20:21
  It's on Kinema, my main platform.
• 20:23
  It's going to be on Amazon and Apple shortly.
• 20:25
  I prefer people using Kinema because it's the most direct
• 20:29
  route to the to the film maker. It's more of an indie platform
• 20:33
  where it goes on other platforms.
• 20:35
  And you'd be shocked to let you know Apple makes 10 bucks.
• 20:37
  You make $0.10 kind of thing. Yeah.
• 20:42
  But yeah, the price will be the same across the platforms.
• 20:45
  It's just that, yeah, it's it's incredible.
• 20:48
  The differences had the middleman and these how some of
• 20:50
  these platforms are, but you know, the trick is to be on all
• 20:53
  of them. But yeah, I mean, I'll, I'll
• 20:54
  provide you with that that link. My goal from doing a lot of
• 20:58
  these podcasts is just to grow my mail list because A, to
• 21:03
  promote this existing project, B, for development for the
• 21:06
  series. I also categorize people
• 21:09
  depending on their interests and stories and keep in touch with
• 21:11
  them because, you know, it's more than just having a
• 21:15
  promotion of a film. It's also looking for people for
• 21:17
  the next series as well. Absolutely.
• 21:21
  And I'll pass your information on to a few of my other
• 21:23
  podcaster friends and you know, we got to promote it I.
• 21:28
  I agree if you also. It's so great.
• 21:31
  Also, I don't know if you do or not, but if you have a
• 21:34
  particularly large group of people following your
• 21:37
  newsletter, you can set up a screen, your own screening where
• 21:41
  you talk or introduce it. I'm happy to join if you'd like.
• 21:45
  And you can do it for profit. It takes about 15 minutes to set
• 21:49
  up. You set your, you set your
• 21:50
  ticket price. The kinema takes care of all the
• 21:52
  billing for you. All they do is send you money.
• 21:54
  It's remarkably easy to do. I've done a few of them now and
• 21:58
  I've done I've, yeah, it's, it's been really cool actually, and
• 22:03
  encouraging people because, you know, my mailing list, my, my
• 22:06
  group of people is so big. Everybody's going to know
• 22:08
  different people. You know, you sell 100 tickets,
• 22:11
  you make a couple of grand. It was like, if you have that,
• 22:14
  you know, the depending on how big your audience is and, and
• 22:17
  how much you want to, that's another thing.
• 22:19
  If you want, you can set up your own screening and promote it and
• 22:22
  do it for profit, or you can just direct people to me and
• 22:24
  I'll send them information about future screenings wherever they
• 22:27
  are. That'd be super.
• 22:29
  Yeah. Right now we're in 157
• 22:31
  countries, so we have a big fan base on it.
• 22:34
  And, you know, people love to watch the videos.
• 22:37
  And, you know, we do a lot of I do things like call Torture
• 22:40
  Thursday and Fucked Up Friday or people just, you know, they want
• 22:45
  to take impact or, you know, penetration, anything like that
• 22:48
  that's kink related. And we do it and people love
• 22:50
  watching it. So that's why I was just, yeah,
• 22:54
  I was, I was happy to do the interview.
• 22:56
  And then that way we can again promote your your documentary
• 22:59
  because I think it's just fascinating.
• 23:01
  Everything. Thank.
• 23:02
  You. Absolutely.
• 23:03
  Appreciate that. Yeah, go ahead.
• 23:06
  No, no, go right ahead. Tell.
• 23:07
  Me, I was just going to say, I mean, that's why I'm doing these
• 23:09
  podcasts. Just talking to people.
• 23:10
  It's like I, I don't have a big Hollywood promotional budget.
• 23:13
  So this is it. It's word of mouth.
• 23:18
  Well, you know, your documentary will speak for itself
• 23:21
  regardless. So, you know, it was very
• 23:24
  fascinating. I loved it.
• 23:26
  But I look forward again to seeing more of your work and,
• 23:30
  and we'll, we'll catch up again in a few months and, and see
• 23:33
  where you're at with your following, you know, 24 part
• 23:36
  series. That's right.
• 23:37
  Well, it'll be 10 episodes. I have to come up with 24
• 23:40
  stories, I guess. But yeah, yeah.
• 23:42
  OK, well, you can do it, Yeah. And if you're in Florida, you
• 23:47
  want to come film us anytime? Absolutely.
• 23:50
  Well, I'm, I'm usually in Florida twice a year, once for
• 23:52
  fetish factory and once for fetish Con.
• 23:54
  So oh. Well, there you go.
• 23:57
  Yeah, I'm I'm super close to fetish con is only six hours
• 24:01
  from me so. Oh, there you go.
• 24:02
  Cool, cool. We'll have to meet up.
• 24:05
  Absolutely, Absolutely. All right.
• 24:07
  Thank you again, Max. It's been a pleasure.
• 24:10
  Thank you very. Much.
• 24:12
  Yeah, I was just going to say, and you know, you're the
• 24:14
  filmmaker of Touch Kink, so we got to promote.
• 24:17
  It thank you very. Much.
• 24:21
  All right, Thank you. Thank you.
• 24:22
  All right, listeners, thank you for listening.
• 24:25
  This is Mistress Mia's tension. We're out.