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Idiomatic for the People II, Part 1 · Ridiculous History

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Speaker 1: So recently, my co host Noel and I had an
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Speaker 1: idea that we thought was just crazy enough to work.
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Speaker 1: We had started talking about all the strange things that
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Speaker 1: happened in the English language. There's so many sayings that
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Speaker 1: don't quite translate, or if you heard them in another language,
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Speaker 1: you would say what that? Heck are these people talking about?
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Speaker 1: We thought this was so fascinating that we wanted to
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Speaker 1: do an episode on it, and luckily we got greenlit
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Speaker 1: by our super producer, Casey Pegram. Yeah, nothing goes out
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Speaker 1: without his express approval. Yes, yes, very true. He is.
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Speaker 1: He is a kingmaker here. So you know, you and I, oh,
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Speaker 1: and I'm been by the way. You and I wanted
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Speaker 1: to do an episode about idioms, and we didn't want
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Speaker 1: to go into this for a alone, so we were
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Speaker 1: joined with our good friend and host of the podcast,
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Speaker 1: Pitches rowan newbie. Hey, oh, here he is there. He's
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Speaker 1: been here the whole time. He was sitting in while
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Speaker 1: we were talking about the Statue of Liberty. Uh, and
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Speaker 1: now we're finally giving him voice. We did. We turned
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Speaker 1: on this aout time. It's true. But hey, here's the thing.
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Speaker 1: You might remember. When we first did this episode, we
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Speaker 1: gave it a fantastic name. Idiomatic for the people that
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Speaker 1: I mentioned was coined by a ephemeral friend of the
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Speaker 1: show who you've heard mentioned plenty of times, multiple times,
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Speaker 1: my dear friend and cohort, Frank the Tank Mulhern. Hey, guys,
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Speaker 1: Frank joined us today. Human he is in the flesh,
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Speaker 1: he has a voice, he has a soul, and he
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Speaker 1: has some ideas about some weird idioms. Um, so it's
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Speaker 1: all it's all coming together. You guys were all here.
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Speaker 1: We finally we pulled it off, and I have a
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Speaker 1: feeling that this will be a two parter. No. Now,
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Speaker 1: to be completely clear with everybody listening this time, we
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Speaker 1: do know roughly what our friends are going to be presenting, right,
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Speaker 1: but I think it's safe to say in most cases
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Speaker 1: we don't know the stories behind these phrases or these words.
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Speaker 1: So we're experiencing this with you as you listen. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, with four you know, dashingly good looking and
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Speaker 1: intelligent gentlemen, we did not want to run the risk
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Speaker 1: of doubling up, so we did give ourselves at least
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Speaker 1: that luxury of knowing what the others were gonna do.
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Speaker 1: But no, we only researched our own, so there's gonna
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Speaker 1: be surprises of plenty in today's episode. Yep, you've paid
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Speaker 1: for the whole seat, but you only use the edge
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Speaker 1: for any of the podcast. Well, they paid attention, that's true.
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Speaker 1: Always say that time is the most valuable currency these days,
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Speaker 1: and that has never been more true than it is today.
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Speaker 1: So what do you say, Gent's who would like to
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Speaker 1: who would like to kick us off? I'm just gonna
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna count down from three and the pixel.
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Speaker 1: That's like a dad move. All right, what do you got, Frank? Alright?
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Speaker 1: So recently, um, I went back to my hometown to
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Speaker 1: visit my parents for their birthdays. They both have birthdays
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Speaker 1: within three days of each other. Here s super convenient
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Speaker 1: since I live out of town. So um, we were
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Speaker 1: hanging out and we did dinner and drinks and gifts
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Speaker 1: exchanges and all that stuff. And then I decided I
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Speaker 1: was going to go out and hang out with some
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Speaker 1: of my friends and Augusta, Georgia, where I'm from, And
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Speaker 1: on my way out, my mom said, y'all have fun,
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Speaker 1: be safe, and then my dad chimed in with trip
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Speaker 1: the light fantastic and yeah, no, I've never heard Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I've I've heard this phrase before. But massive points to
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Speaker 1: your dad, what gravitas? Yeah, yeah. And the thing is
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Speaker 1: he had no idea where it came from, and I
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Speaker 1: asked yeah, and we like, you know, guest wildly for
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Speaker 1: a few minutes, despite the fact that we all have
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Speaker 1: working smartphones. So I I left. It was still a
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Speaker 1: mystery to me, and then I looked it up later
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Speaker 1: on the next day, and there's quite a story to it.
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Speaker 1: It goes through several different iterations and alterations give it
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Speaker 1: to us us so um. The phrase itself means to
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Speaker 1: dance nimbly or lightly and move to a pattern of
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Speaker 1: musical accompaniment. The first variation of it is found in
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Speaker 1: John Milton's Allegro, and the line is come and trip
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Speaker 1: it as you go on the light fantastic toe, the
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Speaker 1: old fantastic toe. Yes, yes, it really is. And the
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Speaker 1: thing that kind of tripped me up was in this sense,
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Speaker 1: trip isn't the sort of normal definition that we think
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Speaker 1: of when it comes to your feet and moving around.
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Speaker 1: It's more about being nimble, flit light fleet footed, yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: kind of frolicking or whatever. And so you're in a
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Speaker 1: ballroom and you're you know, waltzing around the room and
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Speaker 1: and it's just kind of um about you know, enjoying
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Speaker 1: the night and kind of like living the bon vivant life,
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Speaker 1: and fantastic kind of means with flair basically, So it's
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Speaker 1: an escalation expressivity basically, And that was kind of like
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Speaker 1: the version that was around it was just basically John
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Speaker 1: Milton thing. So the condensed version of a line from
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Speaker 1: Milton appeared in Sidewalks of New York by Charles B.
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Speaker 1: Lawler and James W. Blake In, and the line is
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Speaker 1: boys and Girls Together Me and Mamo Rourke Trip Light
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Speaker 1: Fantastic on the Sidewalks of New York. The song is
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Speaker 1: um pretty dull. You would think a song by the
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Speaker 1: name of Sidewalks of New York might be kind of fun.
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Speaker 1: But it's a velvet underground song, right, yes, exactly, it's
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Speaker 1: actually every velvet underground song. Let's let's hear a little
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Speaker 1: clip of that right now. It feels to date very
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Speaker 1: much not not doesn't sound very exciting, It doesn't sound
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Speaker 1: like you're jumping, It doesn't sound from a purely melodic standpoint,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't sound worthy of a phrase with the gravity
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Speaker 1: of trip the light fantastic. Yeah, yeah, it sounds like
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Speaker 1: something you'd hear in the church basically that. But people
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Speaker 1: people still love this phrase, right, this is not the
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Speaker 1: last time, This is not the last we've heard of
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Speaker 1: tripping the light. No, no, it's not um In fact,
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Speaker 1: so trip the light fantastic in this song Sidewalks of
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Speaker 1: New York was in eight four, and one of the
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Speaker 1: first things I noticed when I actually looked into this expression.
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Speaker 1: As early as nineteen o eight it was viewed as
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Speaker 1: cliche or hackneyed phrase, which seemed to be a really
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Speaker 1: oddly specific year. That's when that's when they had reached like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it was too much, not the Gilded Age anymore. We've
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Speaker 1: got to move on. People are avoiding ballroom dances because
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Speaker 1: they don't want to hear that phrase again. Actually, my
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Speaker 1: boss told me trip the Light fantastic. It was kind
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Speaker 1: of um gone for a little while. And then in
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Speaker 1: the early nineteen hundred, specifically around nineteen ten through nineteen
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Speaker 1: twenty nine, there was um a lot of migrant Mexican
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Speaker 1: workers coming over. There was the Mexican Civil War going on,
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of political unrest and economic instability, and
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Speaker 1: so there was a lot of northward movement. In fact,
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Speaker 1: like a tenth of Mexico's population left during that time,
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Speaker 1: and so they kind of brought their culture and their
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Speaker 1: language and their music and food and all the things
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Speaker 1: that make life fun. And eventually Fantastic started to get
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Speaker 1: subbed out with fandango, which is a Spanish dance. That's
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Speaker 1: to me, like, when I read the description of a fandango,
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Speaker 1: it was really similar to flamenco in my mind. And
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Speaker 1: it turns out that the fandango is just a specific
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Speaker 1: type of flamenco, you know, so there's you know, regionals
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Speaker 1: specific types of flamenco. Flamenco being you would be accompanied
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Speaker 1: by a sea classical guitar and castanette and means the
9:17
Speaker 1: dancer actually plays the castaneta times. Yeah. The video Boy
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Speaker 1: with a Coin by Iron and Wine has a really
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Speaker 1: cool example of that, right I remember that one. Now,
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Speaker 1: another change happened with this expression um with Tennessee Williams
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Speaker 1: play the Glass Menagerie and in the opening monologue, as
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Speaker 1: Tom spoke to his father quote he gave up his
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Speaker 1: job with a telephone company and skipped the light Fantastic
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Speaker 1: out of town. Yes, yeah, By this time, like the
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Speaker 1: sense of Tripps that we were talking about earlier is
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Speaker 1: being nimble and agile kind of like treaded into archaic
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Speaker 1: territory and and it became lame. Yes, yeah, yeah totally.
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Speaker 1: And Skipped is phonetically similar and it has you know,
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Speaker 1: pretty much the same spirit and meaning as as the
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Speaker 1: former tripped did so and Skipped just kind of doing
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Speaker 1: double duty meaning wise because of skipping town. Okay, so
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Speaker 1: here's the thing for me, the original Trip it kind
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Speaker 1: of starts to come back around too with the sixties
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Speaker 1: and like the whole idea of it becoming more of
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Speaker 1: a trippy thing, not to mention like you had Queen
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Speaker 1: talking about scar a Mouse, scar Mouse, Will you do
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Speaker 1: the fan dango and all the rightning. It's very very
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Speaker 1: frightening to me apparently. Uh. And then you've got this
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Speaker 1: band Procol haramcom exactly. Yes, it's in seven and they
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Speaker 1: have the song I kind of like the any Lenox
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Speaker 1: version better from being honest, but it's called a Wider
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Speaker 1: Shade of Pale. Uh, this is what I was waiting
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Speaker 1: for you. Yeah. Lyrics by Keithree, Lyrics by Keith three
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Speaker 1: who say and it and it uses the more modernized version.
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Speaker 1: I guess, well, relatively speaking, we tripped the light fan dango,
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Speaker 1: oh no skip, So so it's almost like unrecognizable from
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Speaker 1: its form of trip the light, fantastic, the life fantastic,
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Speaker 1: to skip the light fandangle my thing here to all
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Speaker 1: of this, The question I have is what light? What
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Speaker 1: is this light? Because originally when we were talking about this,
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Speaker 1: fair when I'm thinking about the lights, but I'm thinking
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Speaker 1: about treading the boards on a stage, you know, or something.
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Speaker 1: But that is not really something that comes around, at
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Speaker 1: least in any of the etymology that we that you
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Speaker 1: were looking into about this exactly. But it's a very
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Speaker 1: visual thing. And there's actually the allegro that you mentioned. Uh.
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Speaker 1: It was actually set to music by George Frederick Handel,
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Speaker 1: who is a you know, famous composer from the born
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Speaker 1: in the late sixtreds died in and my mom, who
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Speaker 1: is a singing teacher, this is a song that a
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Speaker 1: lot of her students do and the lyric is you know,
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Speaker 1: common trip it as you go, what the light fantastic
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Speaker 1: toe or whatever like that. I always thought it was
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Speaker 1: the fantastic glow, but now I'm realizing that it's toe
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Speaker 1: fantastic toe is for some reason more appealing. So you're
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Speaker 1: leading with that fantastic toe and it's it's nice, it's
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Speaker 1: a nice you know. Also this, this reminds me, this
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Speaker 1: would be a fantastic phrase for parkour if you are
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Speaker 1: someone who is a parkour enthusiast and you need to
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Speaker 1: for some reason spice up your get together har hardcore parkore.
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Speaker 1: Skip the light, fantastic, trip the light fantastic. Exactly, fantastic
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Speaker 1: skip the light. Maybe we should um reinvent it yet again.
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Speaker 1: There we go, Yeah, tripping the skippity the light glow
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Speaker 1: fantastic toe. How about flip it? Let's flip that light? Yeah, exactly,
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Speaker 1: the whole new word, flip the light, Flip the light,
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Speaker 1: clip the light, fantastic, nip the light. We can go
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Speaker 1: on and send us your suggestions to Ridiculous word that
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Speaker 1: Ryan with trip to Ridiculous at ridiculous at how stuff
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Speaker 1: works dot com. We'd love to hear from you, freak.
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Speaker 1: I am impressed, Thank you, as uh. I've really had
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Speaker 1: no idea that you know, how much that had changed
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Speaker 1: over time. It's really fascinating how language is, you know,
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Speaker 1: constantly moving and changing and almost unrecognizable, speak, seamless segways right,
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Speaker 1: who who's next? Who will trip the light? Fantastic of idioms?
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Speaker 1: I could go, yeah, yeah, you've got some good ones,
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Speaker 1: got okay ones? Um. I don't know if it's as
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Speaker 1: cool sounding as a trip in the life. Fantastic is
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Speaker 1: that as a nice kind of compound? Idiom um mine
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Speaker 1: are also are both single words, the first one I
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Speaker 1: don't always see what should I do? I know what
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do dope. Ah, yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do some dope. On the show We Know,
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Speaker 1: we talked about this all fair, right. We talked about
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Speaker 1: this for a while off fair, about which words take
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Speaker 1: up the mantle of describing something good or cool? Cool, right,
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Speaker 1: And also how it's sort of like a trendy thing
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Speaker 1: to use a word that inherently means something negative and
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Speaker 1: then flip it around and use it to describe something good.
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Speaker 1: And dope is a really good example of that. But
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Speaker 1: it actually has way more history than I ever would
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Speaker 1: have possibly given it credit for. So here let's see
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Speaker 1: where does our journey um of dopeness begin. The first
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Speaker 1: one I always think of as like being a dope, Well,
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Speaker 1: that's see, and that doesn't even enter into this at all.
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Speaker 1: Really enough. Really, it's certainly a use of the word,
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Speaker 1: and you'll see why it was used that way, but
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Speaker 1: that's not really the direction that my that my research
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Speaker 1: took me. Um. Originally, dope was a a word that
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Speaker 1: was used to describe some kind of like a dipping sauce. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so sort of like like you know, let's just say
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Speaker 1: a honey muster, but more like a gravy type dipping sauce.
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Speaker 1: And it was a Dutch word, the origin being the
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Speaker 1: word dupe, which is kind of fun because you think,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just speculating here, you know, if
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Speaker 1: if you dupe somebody and make a dope out of them, right, So,
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Speaker 1: dupe was a thick, sticky sauce or a gravy, and
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Speaker 1: it became a part of the English lexicon. Um in
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Speaker 1: the American colonies. Washington Irving the famous writer what do
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Speaker 1: you write, Ben, You're You're You're a literature guy, Police
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Speaker 1: Academy for that's the one. Famed screenwriter Washington Irving of
15:31
Speaker 1: the Police Academy movies fame. He also he also wrote
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Speaker 1: the Alleged Sleep That's the Guy Crane, so Washington Irving
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Speaker 1: introduced it an early example in his satire called Salmon Gundy,
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Speaker 1: which I have not read. Has anybody read Salmon Gundy?
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Speaker 1: Wrote Salmon Rush Duo, don't be fooled. Yeah, I read that,
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Speaker 1: but it was it's been many moons. Well, it was
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Speaker 1: published in eighteen oh seven, so um. And this is
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Speaker 1: where he described something called a philo dripping pan um,
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Speaker 1: which is like a dope kind of like a I
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Speaker 1: don't know, like kind of like a baking situation. And
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Speaker 1: he used this term in this phrase quote love of
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Speaker 1: what the learned Dutch call doupe spelled d o u
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Speaker 1: p like soup with a D. And then that is
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Speaker 1: where dope started to come into fruition as we know
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Speaker 1: it today. And it really started taking off. This idea
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Speaker 1: of a syrupy, uh goopy doopy there we say substance
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Speaker 1: um in the smokable form of opium that appeared in
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Speaker 1: the New York City Rag Truth, which is a great
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Speaker 1: name for a newspaper, really instill some some confidence in
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Speaker 1: the words printed there in um. And it's talking about
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Speaker 1: opium fiends, dopeheads, dope fiends. As early as eighteen eighty three.
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Speaker 1: And here's a couple of quotes from truth and this
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Speaker 1: comes from a fantastic article on visual thesaurus dot com
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Speaker 1: that talks about the history of dope, doping, dope stoop,
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Speaker 1: all of that stuff. Here is one from March six. Interested,
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Speaker 1: but I love this word, impecunious fiends receive therefore a
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Speaker 1: commission which immediately reverts to the proprietor of the opium
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Speaker 1: den in exchange for a pipe privilege. And a shell
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Speaker 1: of dope is a dressed up word meaning broke. That's right.
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Speaker 1: And then they have another one here, which is my
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Speaker 1: favorite because it's got another phrase in it that I
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Speaker 1: would like to explore as well. Alexander was hitting the
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Speaker 1: flute obviously and rapidly getting to the bottom of a
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Speaker 1: quote hop toy of dope, which is quote fiend pattern
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Speaker 1: for smoking a considerable quantity of opium fiends pattern. That's
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Speaker 1: that's great dope dope speak. Um, the dope is cheap
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Speaker 1: and the joint keeper does not catechise spend c A
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Speaker 1: T E c h I S catechi. That makes sense.
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Speaker 1: What is that sort of like being reprimanded, Yes, just
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Speaker 1: sort of like chastise catechised them as to whether or
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Speaker 1: not they are miners. So were they smoking dope joints
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Speaker 1: like opium joints? You know, you know the joint the
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Speaker 1: joint keeper as then like the establishment. That's right, yeah,
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Speaker 1: the joint keeper, the bar of the barman. Alright, let's say,
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Speaker 1: um so, that's fantastic. So them, we've got dope kind
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Speaker 1: of making the transition into being a verb. Um that
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Speaker 1: can have either a positive or a negative connotation. So
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Speaker 1: if you're doping something, you are injecting it or imbuing
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Speaker 1: it with some sort of medicinal UH substance that can
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Speaker 1: either have a positive or negative effect. And it really
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Speaker 1: started entering the lexicon of horse racing, yes, because it
18:51
Speaker 1: came to mean insider info. Right, well, we're gonna get there, absolutely,
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Speaker 1: But it originally was the way we think of with
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Speaker 1: performing enhancing drugs. You know, that is still a term
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Speaker 1: that's used today by the UH. It's a body that
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Speaker 1: investigates and maintains the standards of you know, testing athletes
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Speaker 1: to make sure they're not quote unquote doping anti doping
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Speaker 1: laws what they call them that they enforce. But um so,
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Speaker 1: originally with it was not about athletes human athletes. It
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Speaker 1: was about horses, and it became such a you know thing,
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Speaker 1: and they would be uh, they could be injected with
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Speaker 1: anything from like whiskey injected them if you didn't check
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Speaker 1: to like a stimulant, So you could, like you might
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Speaker 1: dope someone else's horse to slip them a mickey hobble
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Speaker 1: the horse exactly, or you might you might you might
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Speaker 1: inject or you know, apply some sort of stimulant to
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Speaker 1: your own horse so it gives it a little edge.
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Speaker 1: And then it became so prevalent that when you knew,
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Speaker 1: you knew about which horses were being affected by what stuff.
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Speaker 1: That became referred to as the straight dope, the inside dope. Oh.
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Speaker 1: Also that's the World Anti Doping Agency or WADA, A
20:09
Speaker 1: good acronym. So one last thing. It was originally used
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Speaker 1: in drug parlance, I guess, to describe an opiate which
20:20
Speaker 1: should eventually be the most popular or insidious version. It
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Speaker 1: was heroin. So even when people are suffering from heroin
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Speaker 1: withdrawal or opiate withdrawlly call it getting dope sick. Right,
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Speaker 1: That is a thing, And recently, more recently it's kind
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Speaker 1: of almost exclusively used to refer to marijuana. You're dope
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Speaker 1: dope head. You know you're smoking dope, Right, that's what
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Speaker 1: your mom says. Right, it's sort of a bit of
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Speaker 1: a square thing to say these days. Right. Um, here's
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Speaker 1: the thing. And looking into this I found I'm just
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Speaker 1: gonna really quickly go through this. I found the origins
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Speaker 1: of four twenty. Yeah. So there's an article in High
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Speaker 1: Times magazine, Yeah twiz about the history of four twenty. Um.
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Speaker 1: So it turns out that there's so many ideas about
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Speaker 1: like what four was. One of them was like, oh,
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Speaker 1: there's four and twenty discreet distinct chemicals in marijuana. That
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Speaker 1: seems like a stretch. Uh. For twenty was supposedly like
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Speaker 1: some kind of police radio code for like dope smoking
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Speaker 1: in action or whatever. We got a four twenty also
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Speaker 1: not the case. So somebody reached out two High Times
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Speaker 1: in the nineties early nineties saying, no, no, no, none
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Speaker 1: of this is true. Me and my friends from a
21:35
Speaker 1: high Yeah no, no, only do we know we invented it? Okay,
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Speaker 1: So and then we've got and I've got I've got proof.
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Speaker 1: So this guy reached out a guy by the name
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Speaker 1: of Brian Jarvinson, who is a freelance writer for High
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Speaker 1: Times Um, he received this email or this correspondence from
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Speaker 1: a guy who was running a business in San Raphael, California,
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Speaker 1: which is very near San Francisco, and so he's like, okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm interested. The guy identified himself as Steve uh, Steve Waldo. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so he said, okay, me and my friends we referred
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Speaker 1: to ourselves as the wal Does and we went to
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Speaker 1: San Rafael High School and we had a secret spot
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Speaker 1: that we were trying to find, like a like a
22:16
Speaker 1: mission where it was like going to be this patch
22:18
Speaker 1: of marijuana was growing like someone had planted and they
22:21
Speaker 1: had to like find it like Holy Grail style. And
22:23
Speaker 1: so they agreed that one hour after school ended at
22:26
Speaker 1: four twenty, they would meet and go on this sojourn
22:29
Speaker 1: to find this marijuana field socinating and they and they
22:33
Speaker 1: would meet by a statue of Louis Pasteur at San
22:36
Speaker 1: Rafael High School and um, and they apparently were known
22:39
Speaker 1: for their affinity for smoking the dope. The Marx Brothers
22:43
Speaker 1: in stand up comedy sounds like a bunch of dangerous
22:46
Speaker 1: never hang out with you really would love that's dope,
22:54
Speaker 1: A very good Ben. And it all started with Ben.
22:57
Speaker 1: Your whole thing, like you know, using a negative to
23:00
Speaker 1: to describe a positive. Now it's something that the kids
23:02
Speaker 1: say when something is cool. It's interesting that it went
23:04
Speaker 1: from like such a harsh drug as an opiate, to marijuana,
23:08
Speaker 1: which of course now is more or less legal in
23:10
Speaker 1: most places, or at least much more, much more universally
23:16
Speaker 1: considered innocuu exactly. Yeah, I think dope is still kind
23:20
Speaker 1: of like, you know, an opiate sort of word cat
23:25
Speaker 1: specifically when you're talking about dope sickness, that's right, and
23:28
Speaker 1: this Coca Cola of drugs. This leads us to an
23:30
Speaker 1: important point and a question. I think that we were
23:34
Speaker 1: asking each other off the air, when the four of
23:37
Speaker 1: us were hanging out, how do we get in front
23:40
Speaker 1: of this? What's the right now? Dope is encountering telling
23:43
Speaker 1: a moment. Yeah, it's having a moment. It's having a renaissance,
23:46
Speaker 1: right the same way that cool did, Wicked, sick, rad,
23:49
Speaker 1: gnarly bitchen, tubular radical. And the question that keeps haunting me.
23:55
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think we figured this out when
23:56
Speaker 1: we're talking about this earlier. What's the next one? What's
24:00
Speaker 1: the next word that's going to inherit this mantle? You
24:03
Speaker 1: know what? I mean, like, what's the what's the next dope?
24:06
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the one syllable word though
24:09
Speaker 1: probably it probably is. Is it possible that that our
24:12
Speaker 1: friend Rowan Newby has it? Sure? I'm honored that you
24:15
Speaker 1: would think that I have a cornucopia of silly words
24:19
Speaker 1: just floating around on the bank of myum and why
24:25
Speaker 1: they brought me in here? Actually, okay, let's just let's
24:28
Speaker 1: just throwst them out there. What about slunt? Slunt? Yeah,
24:32
Speaker 1: it's kind of it's kind of gross. Maybe it's like hard,
24:34
Speaker 1: Maybe it's like your mean. Maybe someways mean that's a
24:37
Speaker 1: harsh mouth. Field, may be like flong about, like bro,
24:42
Speaker 1: I'm so flng right now, Dude, last night I got
24:46
Speaker 1: really chipottled, like that means I ate too much. Yeah,
24:51
Speaker 1: I got this serious. I went through a phase where,
24:54
Speaker 1: for some reason, and I never apologized casey to you
24:58
Speaker 1: or nool on air, so I should do it. I
25:00
Speaker 1: went through I get stuck in certain phrases and I
25:03
Speaker 1: overused them very easily. And I went through a period
25:07
Speaker 1: where I was just instead of saying yes to something
25:11
Speaker 1: or great or I've seen this email I was replying to,
25:15
Speaker 1: I was replying to you guys with just Zanzibar because
25:18
Speaker 1: if like, and no one ever called me on you guys,
25:20
Speaker 1: never said dude, what are you talking about? Just let
25:23
Speaker 1: it roll? Really, you know, I mean, Ben's gonna be
25:26
Speaker 1: Ben if you're bold enough and you just yeah, you
25:31
Speaker 1: just gotta own it if you exactly, if you own it,
25:33
Speaker 1: no one's gonna say anything that's the truth with any
25:35
Speaker 1: of these words. And we've coined a few on the
25:36
Speaker 1: show ourselves, like a straight Seahorse t shirt, which has
25:39
Speaker 1: been making the rounds with some of the folks on
25:41
Speaker 1: the Ridiculous History page. Yeah, we actually we should. We
25:44
Speaker 1: should paint some of our fellow listeners rode in and
25:48
Speaker 1: it's told us that they were propagating this phrase, which
25:51
Speaker 1: we thought it was fantastic. I gotta admit, man, I
25:54
Speaker 1: don't know about you know, but I had no idea
25:56
Speaker 1: straight seahorse teeth would would take off. You must have
25:59
Speaker 1: had at inkling. Then the first day you hear that
26:02
Speaker 1: in the wild is going to be amazing. Wow, do
26:04
Speaker 1: you think we will thank you? Will? I hope? So?
26:07
Speaker 1: I hope It's in a really weird situation. To what
26:09
Speaker 1: other situations do we find ourselves in? In the wild.
26:12
Speaker 1: Then it's true. We don't have regular days now, we
26:14
Speaker 1: really don't. But we do have another idiom to throw
26:17
Speaker 1: out at you, don't. I think it's yours, my friend Rowen.
26:21
Speaker 1: That is correct, I do have one, since that is
26:25
Speaker 1: the game we're playing here. How funny would it be
26:28
Speaker 1: if I just was like, oh wait, I was supposed
26:30
Speaker 1: to do homework. No, I just was sitting here drinking
26:35
Speaker 1: coconut water. What do I have here? Cucumber was a
26:38
Speaker 1: cucumber montane sparkling water made right here in the heart
26:41
Speaker 1: of Atlanta, Georgia. Is it Is it true that if
26:44
Speaker 1: we say the company name of the product two more
26:46
Speaker 1: times they'll send us a case of it? We we
26:48
Speaker 1: already have cases. But oh you take some with you?
26:54
Speaker 1: Take some with you, you guys, to take away from
26:56
Speaker 1: the fun of getting free things. But okay, do you
26:59
Speaker 1: want us to like making a scavenger hunt or like
27:02
Speaker 1: make it more fun? Okay, Well, we'll give you a
27:04
Speaker 1: series of clues into the episode. Um, do I seem
27:09
Speaker 1: a little off to the right. I'm a little I
27:12
Speaker 1: drank a lot last night. Well you know, I'm not
27:15
Speaker 1: a hangover doctor or whatever. But you seem fine. What
27:18
Speaker 1: do you think, guys? Does he seem all right? You
27:20
Speaker 1: look great? Yeah, looks you're absolutely glowing. Okay, Well, good
27:23
Speaker 1: that that shower helped. Uh. Well. The reason I ask
27:26
Speaker 1: is because you know, we've all knocked back a few
27:29
Speaker 1: and our local watering hole and woke up feeling rather ripe,
27:33
Speaker 1: which is called the local, which is called we might
27:34
Speaker 1: as well say, yeah, it's it's it really, it's on
27:37
Speaker 1: the nose. Yeah, you can be pretty gnarly if you
27:39
Speaker 1: drink too much, which brings up my first idiom here
27:43
Speaker 1: the time honored colloquialism hair of the dog, which is
27:47
Speaker 1: a yess, which is a short for, of course, hair
27:50
Speaker 1: of the dog that beat you. So wait wa, because
27:53
Speaker 1: this one, I I have no idea what the etymology is,
27:56
Speaker 1: but I've heard it used again in the wild, and
27:59
Speaker 1: it's usually when someone starts drinking kind of early in
28:02
Speaker 1: the day, you know, not distressingly early, not like airport,
28:07
Speaker 1: but yeah, like brunch earlier. Sure, and I mean it's
28:10
Speaker 1: it's You can also infer from the way where it's
28:13
Speaker 1: used in normal conversation that it's to quell the aching
28:17
Speaker 1: headache from the night before you you wake up with
28:20
Speaker 1: a headache because you're hungover, and so you're like, oh,
28:22
Speaker 1: I have the dog, the bitch you. I'm just gonna
28:24
Speaker 1: keep drinking. That will solve everything if I just keep drinking, right,
28:27
Speaker 1: question Mark Lloyd, Yeah, exact, of course. I always think
28:31
Speaker 1: of the shining too. Yeah, and it's referring to the
28:34
Speaker 1: it's a it's a cure like finger quotes cure. There's
28:37
Speaker 1: no scientific proof that it works whatsoever, but the story
28:40
Speaker 1: goes you, if you indulge too much, the next day,
28:43
Speaker 1: you ingest more of the same alcohol and it quells
28:46
Speaker 1: this pain in your head. But at the origin of
28:48
Speaker 1: the expressions dates back to medieval times actually, when it
28:51
Speaker 1: was thought that after being bit by a rabid dog,
28:54
Speaker 1: one could relieve the pain by simply rubbing some hairs
28:58
Speaker 1: from the same dog into your wound. Okay, first of all,
29:01
Speaker 1: that's disgusting. That seems very not I'm not a doctor.
29:06
Speaker 1: I don't recommend it. I mean it is something that
29:07
Speaker 1: we've talked about in other episodes of the show. Uh,
29:10
Speaker 1: this this sort of like, I don't know, you hear
29:12
Speaker 1: about it in medieval practitioners of remedies. You know, I'm
29:16
Speaker 1: not even gonna call them doctor that wasn't quite even
29:18
Speaker 1: a thing. Yeah, but it seems like leeching or blood letting,
29:20
Speaker 1: only this is like almost like the idea of fighting
29:23
Speaker 1: fire with fire, right, yes, sympathetic magic. This theory was
29:28
Speaker 1: first developed by a guy named Sir James Fraser in
29:31
Speaker 1: his masterpiece The Golden Boat. And in this the argument
29:37
Speaker 1: is that like can cure like this correlation between things,
29:43
Speaker 1: whether they're related through their physicality or whether they're related
29:47
Speaker 1: through their space and time in the event, right, like
29:50
Speaker 1: a voodoo dollar or something. Sure, Yeah, or like like
29:53
Speaker 1: how you could become a werewolf by drinking water from
29:57
Speaker 1: a wolf print on the wood, which is also, by
30:01
Speaker 1: the way, not true. If you if you were about
30:05
Speaker 1: to give it a go, I don't think it will work,
30:07
Speaker 1: but right in if it does once you transform back,
30:10
Speaker 1: but you're absolutely right. Well, it's kind of the idea
30:12
Speaker 1: that the poison can help create the antidote. Yeah, you
30:16
Speaker 1: guys always enlightened me on my own idioms that I
30:19
Speaker 1: bring to the table. I love the What did you call?
30:21
Speaker 1: What kind of magic? Was that? Sympathetic? Yeah, it's sort
30:24
Speaker 1: of like a sympathetic vibration, right, So it's if you
30:27
Speaker 1: something vibrates at the right frequency, it makes something else
30:30
Speaker 1: vibrate at that same frequency. So sympathetic magic would be
30:33
Speaker 1: like if you are interacting with something related to the
30:38
Speaker 1: malady that you're suffering from or maybe even dare we say,
30:41
Speaker 1: the cause, that it will somehow cure it. But what
30:43
Speaker 1: you're getting at wrong, which I totally agree with, is
30:45
Speaker 1: that this is completely magical thinking. It's this idea that
30:50
Speaker 1: I should to be less drunk or to feel less bad,
30:53
Speaker 1: I should just drink more and sure it'll make you
30:55
Speaker 1: feel a little better because you're drunk again. It's also
30:59
Speaker 1: it's also babies, right, and also how do you get
31:02
Speaker 1: the subsequent hairs from the same dog that bit you? Yeah,
31:06
Speaker 1: I feel like relationship, that's all right, It will requires
31:12
Speaker 1: some sort of mystical quest because that here, okay, here
31:15
Speaker 1: we go. I propose something, this idea of seeking out
31:19
Speaker 1: some sort of creature that has wronged you, and then
31:23
Speaker 1: you have to kill it to get the hair. That's
31:25
Speaker 1: sort of the ideas you gotta you gotta slay the
31:27
Speaker 1: beast and then you get the hair, rub it on
31:30
Speaker 1: your wounds. But let's apply this to you know how
31:33
Speaker 1: the idiom came around to bar times. I guess, like,
31:37
Speaker 1: who doesn't like a good mimosa or Bloody Mary in
31:39
Speaker 1: the morning. Let's be honest. You know, I was just
31:42
Speaker 1: a little nip and bloody marrying guy. Yeah, I just
31:45
Speaker 1: recently started liking Bloody Mary's. But I was shocked. Goes
31:47
Speaker 1: to the airport at like six am this morning. I'm
31:49
Speaker 1: looking at the people are pouring vodka and the airport
31:52
Speaker 1: bar as six. That had to be some hair with
31:54
Speaker 1: alcoholism is a real thing. Well, they're also they're also possibly,
31:59
Speaker 1: in their defense, they're coming from a very different time zone.
32:02
Speaker 1: Could be we do have the world's busiest airport. Okay,
32:06
Speaker 1: well never mind, no, no, no, no, you never know.
32:09
Speaker 1: But I've decided to assume that's fair. I was a
32:11
Speaker 1: little shocked though, and you know, even weirder, I was like,
32:14
Speaker 1: maybe I should I should have a little nippets sick
32:17
Speaker 1: in the morning. That seems fun. You know, If I
32:19
Speaker 1: see someone drinking that much at an airport, um, I go.
32:23
Speaker 1: They fly all of the time. They are getting on
32:26
Speaker 1: airplanes like four times a week or something. Because the
32:29
Speaker 1: thing about airports is that's sort of like a liminal
32:31
Speaker 1: space where it's like a space between spaces. So the
32:34
Speaker 1: normal rules of decorum and life skills do not apply
32:38
Speaker 1: when you're at the airport. Absolutely true, like garbage. You
32:41
Speaker 1: know what happens in the airport pants, sweatpants and vodka shots,
32:45
Speaker 1: crocs trip that life fantastic. We have some airport war
32:49
Speaker 1: stories that would be great for a future episode. What
32:52
Speaker 1: do you think that's diving into our personal lives a little?
32:54
Speaker 1: I'm fine with you, okay, but I have a question
32:57
Speaker 1: for you. Okay, this is illuminating to me and I
33:02
Speaker 1: cannot help, but wonder what kind of terrible nights someone
33:06
Speaker 1: had where they went on this quest as well said
33:09
Speaker 1: they were bitten by a rabid dog. They hunted it down,
33:13
Speaker 1: they took its hair, and then in the morning they
33:17
Speaker 1: started drinking booze. And someone's like, hey, dude, are you okay? Like,
33:23
Speaker 1: how bad? Did not have to be? Right exactly? I
33:26
Speaker 1: mean alcohol will always, uh act as you know, a
33:30
Speaker 1: numbing agent. I feel like, uh, I mean, for God's sakes.
33:33
Speaker 1: Then they used to put whiskey and milk and give
33:35
Speaker 1: it to their kids. You know I still do that,
33:39
Speaker 1: just random children. Okay. You know. I actually found a
33:43
Speaker 1: really good physiological description of it on a website called
33:47
Speaker 1: vine pair dot com, which is a great name for
33:50
Speaker 1: a website. It is a great name. I actually have
33:51
Speaker 1: the same same source. What did you find I found?
33:56
Speaker 1: You know? I was, yeah, I was talking about these
33:57
Speaker 1: physiological aspects of like how you know alcohol affects you,
34:01
Speaker 1: um Like bloody Mary works because the alcohol inside the
34:03
Speaker 1: drink begins acting on the chemical receptors inside the brain
34:06
Speaker 1: to increase the feelings of pleasure. It's actually why so
34:09
Speaker 1: many people like booze in the first place, and also
34:11
Speaker 1: probably why you drank so much the night before, and
34:13
Speaker 1: the chemical reaction begins to overpower the hangover symptoms, thus
34:17
Speaker 1: allowing us to feel at least momentarily from the bad
34:21
Speaker 1: decisions of the previous night. So and what is life
34:23
Speaker 1: but a series of momentary relief and quick fixes? You know?
34:27
Speaker 1: Have any of y'all ever had hair of the dog
34:30
Speaker 1: actually cure your hangover? Because that's always been like a
34:32
Speaker 1: delay strategy for me, Like when I've worked in a restaurant,
34:35
Speaker 1: I was like, let me just get through the lunch
34:37
Speaker 1: rush and I can de stim spinach for the next
34:40
Speaker 1: three hours and then go home. I've yeah, I've I'm
34:43
Speaker 1: not a practitioner of Hair of the dog, even when
34:46
Speaker 1: I'm living a crazy airport life. It just seems strange
34:50
Speaker 1: to introduce that kind of variable after, you know, especially
34:54
Speaker 1: if you've had a night where you were drinking and
34:57
Speaker 1: you wake up the next day like maybe you can,
35:00
Speaker 1: maybe you can power through, as you said, Frank, delay
35:02
Speaker 1: into three PM or something. At some point your body
35:06
Speaker 1: passed some atabolize this alcohol, like unless you just steadily
35:10
Speaker 1: drink from that point to the rest of your life,
35:12
Speaker 1: which shorter. Yeah, exactly. No, it really does seem like
35:16
Speaker 1: prolonging the inevitable. I am incapable of day drinking successfully too.
35:20
Speaker 1: I know that Frank that you have. You're not. That's
35:21
Speaker 1: not our thing. It's just like, because I get I
35:24
Speaker 1: get sleepy, I get cranky. It's not fun. It just
35:27
Speaker 1: is gonna kill my day. I don't care what kind
35:30
Speaker 1: of night I've had the night before. I'm just going
35:32
Speaker 1: to power through. And we have some very helpful chips
35:36
Speaker 1: for this. All of a sudden, this has become alcoholism.
35:39
Speaker 1: One O one. Just drink a lot of water. Drink
35:43
Speaker 1: a lot. That has always cured my headache. If I
35:44
Speaker 1: just drink a lot of water. I do you want
35:45
Speaker 1: to drink booze? I want to drink water and you know,
35:50
Speaker 1: a little bit of a little bit of a leave
35:52
Speaker 1: a little bit of ibuprofen and something, eat something. Yeah, drink,
35:57
Speaker 1: be married, No, don't be married. I feel sad, be
36:00
Speaker 1: ashamed of yourself, your garbage person, and you don't deserve
36:04
Speaker 1: to be happy. You should never drink again, and you
36:07
Speaker 1: should you should make wildly melodramatic proclamations to everyone you
36:13
Speaker 1: know on social media. People you don't. Yeah. So I
36:21
Speaker 1: found this phrase from this old English writer named John
36:24
Speaker 1: Heywood on phrases dot org that supposedly the first origin
36:28
Speaker 1: of Hair of the Dog. I thought it was really interesting.
36:31
Speaker 1: Are you going to read it? I'm going to read it?
36:33
Speaker 1: Will you do a voice? I play the Let me
36:39
Speaker 1: and my fellow have a hair of the dog that
36:42
Speaker 1: bit us last night? And bitten? Were we both on
36:46
Speaker 1: the brain night? It literally says that we saw each
36:49
Speaker 1: other drunk in the good Ale glass bit on the brain.
36:55
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is I think we were talking off, Mike.
36:58
Speaker 1: The just both to the brain, both the brain. That's great.
37:05
Speaker 1: So you were telling me a little bit off Mike
37:07
Speaker 1: that This article talks about how some of these phrases
37:10
Speaker 1: don't really come into popular use until like the literal
37:14
Speaker 1: version of it sort of falls out. So this is
37:17
Speaker 1: sort of what you're seeing there as this gentleman using
37:20
Speaker 1: that to describe the actual experience of being hungover, and
37:25
Speaker 1: he's kind of using it as a metaphor when it
37:28
Speaker 1: was sort of a folkloric tradition in the first place,
37:30
Speaker 1: right exactly. It's interesting, yeah, super fascinating and um and
37:35
Speaker 1: we still use it to this day something. So so
37:39
Speaker 1: we've got dope, hair of the Dog and tripping the light. Fantastic.
37:44
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we've set this up as a two
37:46
Speaker 1: part in the beginning. Uh. This this is one of
37:49
Speaker 1: those shows that I wish wouldn't end, but we will
37:52
Speaker 1: have to end today's episode eventually. I have I have
37:56
Speaker 1: one contribution. I feel like the evil uh, the evil
38:00
Speaker 1: character and a fairy tale going. I have a present
38:03
Speaker 1: for the child. There's one more gift. This phrase is
38:07
Speaker 1: something that we've heard before, and I primed you guys
38:11
Speaker 1: just a little bit off air for this. The word
38:14
Speaker 1: is gad zooks, and so it was that's why I
38:17
Speaker 1: was like sliding that in hot topic. Mall gad zoo
38:21
Speaker 1: spensers uh for a lot of us in our age
38:25
Speaker 1: group in this part of the world. When we hear
38:27
Speaker 1: the phrase gad zooks, we associated with the store that
38:30
Speaker 1: used to be quite popular in the era of malls,
38:33
Speaker 1: and it was called gad Zooks. Were in a post
38:37
Speaker 1: mall America. Yes, it's getting there. I guess that's because
38:41
Speaker 1: the mall used to be like a central like fixture
38:44
Speaker 1: of like hanging out, hang out, the center of town.
38:46
Speaker 1: It was the center of town. Gad Zooks was also
38:49
Speaker 1: like where you would buy those giant pants that were
38:52
Speaker 1: called Jinkos for our younger listeners and maybe don't remember
38:54
Speaker 1: this absurd time or that orb with the lightning the
38:58
Speaker 1: glass that would touch or the needle thing you put
39:02
Speaker 1: your hand and it shows it your hand in the metal,
39:04
Speaker 1: which those things have to be filthy by now, Yeah,
39:11
Speaker 1: the ones on display and like the science store. So
39:16
Speaker 1: so it turns out that goad Zooks actually has a
39:22
Speaker 1: storied history. You know, things like goad zooks or zounds,
39:27
Speaker 1: which is also related on the Yep, they sound like
39:30
Speaker 1: something you would hear on the old Adam West. Yeah,
39:33
Speaker 1: Scooby Doo, the old Adam West Batman. But they have
39:36
Speaker 1: religious origins. Dictionary references date gad zooks as far back
39:41
Speaker 1: as the late sixteen hundreds as a shortening of another exclamation,
39:47
Speaker 1: which was by God's hooks. Whoa God's hook be a
39:53
Speaker 1: reference to the nails on the cross of Jesus Christ.
39:57
Speaker 1: You know what first popped into my head when you
39:59
Speaker 1: said God's hooks? I pictured God as being like pinhead
40:02
Speaker 1: from hell raisers, shooting out hooks into the flesh I was.
40:07
Speaker 1: I was thinking that to like a god with Uh.
40:09
Speaker 1: You know that has an unseeable form except for the
40:12
Speaker 1: hooks where the hands should be. You know this this
40:15
Speaker 1: is superate? Yea super pirate. Uh? This weird because I
40:20
Speaker 1: mentioned zounds earlier. Zounds also appears to date back to
40:24
Speaker 1: around the fifteen hundreds as a euphemism for the phrase
40:27
Speaker 1: by God's wounds. So I should be pronounced zoons should
40:31
Speaker 1: probably right, and I guess it depends on the sounds.
40:37
Speaker 1: So so this phrase gad zooks is not alone in
40:42
Speaker 1: its evolution, even phrases there's somewhat innocuous, like jeepers. Creepers
40:47
Speaker 1: was originally euphemism to get around saying Jesus Christ, but
40:51
Speaker 1: still still have the same thing. I think the guy
40:54
Speaker 1: who yeah. I think the guy who made the film
40:56
Speaker 1: Jeepers Creepers doesn't know that, but also apparently that as
41:00
Speaker 1: a creep Yeah, I'm a big fan of JEsum crow.
41:04
Speaker 1: That's that's I'm a big fan of cheese and crackers
41:07
Speaker 1: as good people saying that, right, I said that earlier, Yes, yeah, right,
41:16
Speaker 1: or just as strangers on the train. So it's an exclamation.
41:20
Speaker 1: We don't hear it too often now. I think Prince
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Speaker 1: Philip said it in these are modern days, but it
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Speaker 1: would be unusual for us to be hanging out and
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Speaker 1: maybe have a surprise party for Casey and for him
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Speaker 1: to see the cake and whatever, you know, mariatcha band
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Speaker 1: or whatever we had to spice it up. It would
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Speaker 1: be really strange for him to go gad zouks, wouldn't
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Speaker 1: it Well? I mean, you know, these hip young millennials
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Speaker 1: these days, they bring back this stuff all the time,
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Speaker 1: saying it ironically. You know, yeah, I say, Zoe's a
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Speaker 1: lot that's true. Yeah, that's true. I started saying, oishan,
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Speaker 1: I have no idea why. It's just stuck in my head.
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Speaker 1: I think I just made it up so like, I
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Speaker 1: don't know, I was just so prize. That's what it
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Speaker 1: came out, and it's like, I'll keep that one. But
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Speaker 1: the use of God for God occurs in other phrases
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Speaker 1: to et Gad gad and these are called phraseological combinations.
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Speaker 1: There are other ones that didn't make the cut. Gad
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Speaker 1: Zooks is did that Coca Cola reference earlier? Gad Zooks
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Speaker 1: is one of the most successful of these turns of phrase.
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Speaker 1: I would like, Yeah, I'd like to end this part
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Speaker 1: of the show by telling introducing you guys to some
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Speaker 1: gad Zooks esque things that didn't make it. They're all ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: Are you prepared? All right? God's bobs also an exclamation,
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Speaker 1: gads Bob's uh, God's lid. There's Gad's bud l kins.
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Speaker 1: Can we bring that back? God's bubblican dare you? And
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Speaker 1: then God's nouns nouns, nouns you know U? And s
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Speaker 1: that lazy? I mean, I think the clear audience favorite
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Speaker 1: here is God's bud lickins. It's bud bud lickens buds.
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Speaker 1: That would be a good name for aid dukes of
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Speaker 1: hazard type characters. So this is strange. Gadsouts, Gad's buds lickins,
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Speaker 1: we found out about tripping the light, fantastic the hair
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Speaker 1: of the dog that bid us, and it was overall
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Speaker 1: pretty dope with your thanks many sounds, Noel Role desires
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Speaker 1: just a little bit I did not. I deserved it.
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Speaker 1: No I opened them wide and affection admiration from my
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Speaker 1: dear co host Bin Boling. Thank you Noel Brown. And likewise,
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Speaker 1: one thing that we found there was great interest to
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Speaker 1: us on our first episode of Idiomatic for the People
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Speaker 1: was that, in the course of the show we had
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Speaker 1: totally about planning it used several, like multiple different turns
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Speaker 1: of phrase or figures of speech idioms that we did
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Speaker 1: not even notice until we went back and listened to it.
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Speaker 1: So I wonder if we did that today as well,
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Speaker 1: No doubt about it, No doubt about it. That's one.
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Speaker 1: There's a really cool video by Kishi Bashi who crams
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Speaker 1: like a hundred and twenty or so idioms into a
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Speaker 1: single music video. That's really cool. Well, we got four.
44:34
Speaker 1: We're doing our best, we're living our best, but we're working.
44:40
Speaker 1: But who is not even him sometimes? But he is
44:42
Speaker 1: from Mathews, Georgia, which is also where ari A m
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Speaker 1: Is from, which is one of Frank's favorite bands, which
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Speaker 1: is where idiomatic for the people came from. So thanks R. A. M.
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Speaker 1: And thanks Frank mulhern for helping dub this segment. All right,
44:56
Speaker 1: thank you, and thanks for coming on the show. Dude.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me rowan nubie. Thanks to you as well, dude,
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Speaker 1: my pleasure. You you you, you dashing man with your
45:06
Speaker 1: He's got a shirt on that you guys wouldn't believe.
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Speaker 1: It's got boots on it. It's very colorful. I wanted
45:11
Speaker 1: to take a picture, but I said, I don't want
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Speaker 1: to look weird. Oh no, it's fine. I won't takes
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Speaker 1: pictures everything these days. Al right. Well, that that which
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Speaker 1: man is wearing Google glasses right now. We keep telling
45:21
Speaker 1: them they're out of fashion. They're no longer done. You
45:25
Speaker 1: don't even function, He keeps saying, okay, Google, people take
45:29
Speaker 1: a picture of shirts Google. All right, Well, you guys
45:34
Speaker 1: busted me. They are apparently not as inconspicuous as I thought.
45:39
Speaker 1: But yes, thank you so much for coming on the show.
45:42
Speaker 1: If you would like to hear more from our good
45:46
Speaker 1: friend Frank than Taint Mollahern, fear not, because you're essentially
45:52
Speaker 1: a shadow member of our our podcasting we run ideas
45:55
Speaker 1: past Frank and Frank will sometimes give us ideas and
45:58
Speaker 1: we just try not to Discipplin. I'm I'm a little
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Speaker 1: worried that having his actual voice on the show is
46:02
Speaker 1: going to open up some sort of rift and time space.
46:05
Speaker 1: But I'm willing to take the chance. God, let's hope
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Speaker 1: not if you want to. If you want to hear
46:11
Speaker 1: more from our good friend Rowan Nubie, check out his
46:14
Speaker 1: podcast Pitches. What is Pitches? Pitches as a podcast about ideas.
46:19
Speaker 1: There's a comedy podcast, and uh boy, oh boy, I
46:23
Speaker 1: would love it if any of these fellow listeners would
46:26
Speaker 1: like to write in any ideas. I mean, really, it
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Speaker 1: can be an app a turn of phrase, how about that?
46:31
Speaker 1: It could be uh, you know, an invention or who knows?
46:35
Speaker 1: And what goes on? You were on a great episode
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Speaker 1: of That's correct. Yeah, I think it's coming out soon.
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Speaker 1: It's today today, so well this would be a little
46:44
Speaker 1: removed from that in time, so it already exists in
46:46
Speaker 1: the world, that's right. I pitched a really silly idea
46:50
Speaker 1: for a suntan lotion that gets you drunk. Ah, the
46:54
Speaker 1: old hair of the tan, hair of the tan that
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Speaker 1: that tans you right, Oh, it was very good. Thanks
47:01
Speaker 1: for having me. I think we've got our future episode
47:03
Speaker 1: coming up where Ben is going to That is correctly,
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47:30
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Speaker 1: I am at Ben Bolan. We hope that you enjoyed
47:40
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47:43
Speaker 1: As idiomatic For the people soldiers on Frank, I cannot
47:47
Speaker 1: emphasize it enough. We're huge fans of that name. Thank you.
47:51
Speaker 1: Um we're thank you profusely because we're I think legally
47:56
Speaker 1: we're we don't have to pay you, it's what we do.
48:00
Speaker 1: We're also profuse thankers just in general. Thank you, Thank
48:05
Speaker 1: you Ben, and thank you super producer Casey Pagram. Thank
48:08
Speaker 1: you Alex Williams. We composed our theme. Thank you Gabe,
48:10
Speaker 1: our research associate who had absolutely nothing to do with
48:13
Speaker 1: this episode today, but we still thank him just the same.
48:15
Speaker 1: He's a real mench uh, And thanks to you bambo
48:17
Speaker 1: One for being such a dashing and debonair co host.
48:21
Speaker 1: And that jacket and those Google glasses are really popping today.
48:25
Speaker 1: You know what, I've committed to the bit. That's what
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Speaker 1: you gotta do. We'll see you next time. Books