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Cheering for a Killer · David Pollack Primetime

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Speaker 1: Tonight, the police officer convicted of murdering George Floyd is
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Speaker 1: asking a court to throw the entire case out. It's
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Speaker 1: his third attempt, and this time well the richest man
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Speaker 1: in the world is advocating for him, posting on X
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Speaker 1: Free Chauvin and the President just struck a deal. He says,
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Speaker 1: We'll slash the price of your hamburger meat, but their
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Speaker 1: concerns that American ranchers could end up paying the price.
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Speaker 1: More on that later. But first, Cora was five years old,
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Speaker 1: Dawson was three, Callen was eight months old, still a baby,
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Speaker 1: and on a January night in twenty twenty three, then
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Speaker 1: a quiet town south of Boston, their mother strangled all
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Speaker 1: three of them, one at a time with exercise bands.
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Speaker 2: Shouldn't deny it.
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Speaker 1: Her own lawyer stood up in court and admitted that
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Speaker 1: she did it. This week, while a jury decide whether
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Speaker 1: Lindsey Clancy is a murderer or just a woman who
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Speaker 1: lost her mind, something is happening on the courthouse steps
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Speaker 1: that's starting to gain more traction than the case itself.
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Speaker 2: The facts of the.
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Speaker 1: Case really aren't in dispute with the Clancy killed her
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Speaker 1: three children, whether her defense argues is that she shouldn't
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Speaker 1: be held responsible for it because she was in the
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Speaker 1: grip of severe postpartum psychosis, that she'd been over medicated,
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Speaker 1: that she heard a voice telling her to do it.
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Speaker 1: Prosecutors argue the opposite, that she planned it, that she
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Speaker 1: sent her husband out on an errand to buy herself time,
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Speaker 1: that she wanted to take those children with her when
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Speaker 1: she tried to end her own life that same night.
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Speaker 2: Now she survived.
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Speaker 1: She went out on a second story window, and now
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Speaker 1: she's paralyzed in a wheelchair.
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Speaker 2: On trial for first murder. Twelve jurors will decide her.
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Speaker 1: Fate any day. So let's look at what happened outside
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Speaker 1: the courthouse yesterday. Because while the jury sat inside, roughly
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Speaker 1: three hundred people, nearly all of them women, gathered in Plymouth, Massachusetts.
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Speaker 1: They wore pink It wore shirts that read believe and
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Speaker 1: she needed help.
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Speaker 2: And peace for Lindsey.
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Speaker 1: They waved flags from other countries to show support from
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Speaker 1: the global community. They stood in a circle and said
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Speaker 1: the Lord's Prayer and raised their arms and made hearts
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Speaker 1: with their hands. And when Lindsay Clancy's defense attorney walked
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Speaker 1: up to that courthouse.
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Speaker 2: The crowd broke out into applause, look.
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Speaker 1: A rally, applause for the defense of a woman who
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Speaker 1: strangled her three small children. The organizer stood in front
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Speaker 1: of that crowd and told them to trust the lawyer
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Speaker 1: because he was.
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Speaker 2: He had Lindsay's fight, Lindsay's fight.
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Speaker 1: Somewhere in that sentence, three dead children just quietly vanished.
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Speaker 2: It was really about Lindsay, right.
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Speaker 1: And it isn't only the people who came there in
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Speaker 1: person and pink to cheer for her on TikTok.
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Speaker 2: There's this odd trend right now of.
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Speaker 1: Women filling in themselves, cradling their babies, tearing up, capturing
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Speaker 1: the video same Lindsay, Same, drawing a parallel from their
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Speaker 1: own hard days as a mom to a woman who
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Speaker 1: strangled her three kids.
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Speaker 3: Look indicated further on into her travels, I am completely
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Speaker 3: overwhelmed trying to take care of the kids. I'm drowning
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Speaker 3: every day. I feel guilty that I'm spending my family's
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Speaker 3: money and not making any I feel like I spend
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Speaker 3: way too much. She wrote that right, I'm tired of
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Speaker 3: I'm terrified of Callen getting sick. He's a sick baby,
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Speaker 3: a sick baby. Is miss He's sick now with a
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Speaker 3: double ear infection, clearly has a belly ache. It's miserable.
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Speaker 3: I feel like the other kids are going to get
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Speaker 3: him sick all winter long. She wrote that right correct.
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Speaker 1: There's also this random trend of angry women throwing ice
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Speaker 1: into their bathtub, and the money followed. In about a week,
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Speaker 1: strangers have poured over a million dollars into a fund
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Speaker 1: for Clancy's family, more than twenty seven thousand donations from
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Speaker 1: as far as way as Australia. In the UK nearly
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Speaker 1: a million dollars in the wake of the one thing
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Speaker 1: a mother is never supposed to do. Now, look postparton
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Speaker 1: psychosis and depression. It's genuinely a terrifying medical condition. It
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Speaker 1: strikes maybe one or two mothers in a thousand. The anxiety,
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Speaker 1: the intrusive thoughts, the exhaustion, there's no.
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Speaker 2: Bottom to it. It's a real illness.
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Speaker 1: But they're suffering from it, and when they are, they
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Speaker 1: don't do what Clancy did. When you're struggling with a
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Speaker 1: sick baby, or not sleeping or long hours, you don't
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Speaker 1: do what Clancy did. We're not talking about the sleepless
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Speaker 1: nights or the difficulty of being a young parent.
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Speaker 2: We're talking about postpartum depression.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about on one side, the murder and the
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Speaker 1: celebration of the murder, and somehow pairing it with postpartum depression,
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Speaker 1: normalizing it as if this is some sort of rational outcome.
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Speaker 1: There's a canyon between compassion and a coronation. You can
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Speaker 1: grieve for a broken woman and still refuse to crown
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Speaker 1: her a folk hero.
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Speaker 2: Real compassion grieves quietly.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't put on a pink shirt and cheer, and
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Speaker 1: it doesn't caption a video of your own child.
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Speaker 2: With the name of a woman who killed hers.
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Speaker 1: And a whole lot of people out there, they seem
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Speaker 1: to have lost the ability to tell those two things apart.
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Speaker 1: Consider what's happening in this country right now, because this
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Speaker 1: same month, in that same corner of America, the governor
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Speaker 1: of Massachusetts sat down at a desk in front of
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Speaker 1: a cheering room of women and signed a law wiping
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Speaker 1: out the women on abortion, allowing it right up to
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Speaker 1: the day of birth at a doctor's discretion.
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Speaker 2: One doctor, that's it.
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Speaker 1: Applause smiles for a bill about ending a baby's life.
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Speaker 1: In nine months and now a few weeks later, a
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Speaker 1: few states over one hundreds more applauding for a woman
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Speaker 1: who killed her three kids they were already born.
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Speaker 2: Now I don't believe those are two separate stories. I
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Speaker 2: think they're the same one.
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Speaker 1: A culture that has slowly carefully taught itself to look
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Speaker 1: at a dead child and find a reason a clap.
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Speaker 1: They'll tell you it's all just mental health, compassion, just
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Speaker 1: believing women. But there's something underneath it that's colder than compassion,
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Speaker 1: and didn't just begin in that courtroom, and it won't
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Speaker 1: end there. Three children are dead court Dawson Klin. They'll
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Speaker 1: never start kindergarten, or learn to drive, never hold children
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Speaker 1: of their own. A jury is about to decide what
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Speaker 1: their mother deserves. I can tell you what I think
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Speaker 1: she deserves.
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Speaker 2: But out on.
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Speaker 1: Those court house steps, the verdict is already in. They
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Speaker 1: showed up in pink, and they decided the woman who
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Speaker 1: killed these children's she was the one who was wronged.
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Speaker 1: And I promise you, heading to November, this will be
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Speaker 1: yet another rally cry for the Democratic Socialists to divide
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Speaker 1: women from the rest of America, another manufactured crisis that
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Speaker 1: can be solved by a radical revolution and bigger government, and.
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Speaker 2: I have a feeling that this is what's happening here.
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Speaker 2: You just wait and see.
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Speaker 1: All I know is this when you start losing respect
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Speaker 1: for life at all stages, it's a slippery slope to
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Speaker 1: pink shirts and demonstrations outside of an alleged murderer's courtroom.
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Speaker 1: Still ahead, the officer convicted in George Floyd's death files
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Speaker 1: to overturn the whole thing.
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Speaker 2: Elon must says, set him free, and I'll walk you
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Speaker 2: through whether he has a chance.
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Speaker 1: Then the President's new deal to bring down beef prices
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Speaker 1: in why America's ranchers are a little concerned about it,
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Speaker 1: and the first Lady turned a charity for foster kids
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Speaker 1: into a race car screaming around the National Mall this
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Speaker 1: weekend doing a lot of great work. Stay with me,
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Speaker 1: Remember the Summer of Love, Riots, buildings set on fire,
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Speaker 1: a wave of violence, death and destruction.
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Speaker 2: BLM. What is the love? BLM?
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Speaker 1: It has been six years since that infamous video surfaced,
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Speaker 1: the one that appeared to show Minneapolis police officer Derek
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Speaker 1: Chauvin kneeling on George Floyd's neck for roughly nine and
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Speaker 1: a half minutes. April twenty twenty one, in Minnesota, jury
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Speaker 1: convicted him of second degree murder and a judge sentenced
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Speaker 1: him to nearly twenty two and a half years. Chauvin's
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Speaker 1: lawyers filed a petition this week to erase his murder
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Speaker 1: conviction entirely, to rule that the trial that put him
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Speaker 1: away it shouldn't happen at all. The autopsy in the
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Speaker 1: case found fentanyl and methphetamine in Floyd's system, and Chauvin's
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Speaker 1: defense has argued for years that the drugs, not the
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Speaker 1: are what really killed him.
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Speaker 2: That fight never went away. His lawyers point to what
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Speaker 2: happened at the trial itself. The judge refused to move
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Speaker 2: it out of Minneapolis, even as the.
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Speaker 1: City braves for riots. The middle of jury selection, the
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Speaker 1: city announced a twenty seven million dollar settlement with Floyd's family,
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Speaker 1: and two seated jurors were dismissed after admitting it destroyed
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Speaker 1: their impartiality. The jury was never sequestered, so they watched
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Speaker 1: a second police shooting and fresh unrest unfold nearby in
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Speaker 1: the middle of the trial, and then days before the verdict,
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Speaker 1: a sitting member of Congress went to the streets of
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Speaker 1: Minnesota and said this. We got to stay on the
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Speaker 1: street and we've got to get more active.
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Speaker 2: We've got to get more confrontational. We've got to make
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Speaker 2: sure that they think they know that.
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Speaker 5: We need business.
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Speaker 1: He's saying, behind that math, We're gonna get more confrontational.
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Speaker 1: She's telling a crowd to escalate if Chovin walked. And
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Speaker 1: this isn't just conservative crime foul. The trial judge himself,
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Speaker 1: Peter Cahill, said from the bench that waters comments may
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Speaker 1: have handed Chauvin the grounds to get that entire.
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Speaker 2: Verdict overturned on appeal.
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Speaker 1: So this week, Chauvin's attorney, Greg Joseph filed a thirty
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Speaker 1: one page petition asking the Minnesota Court of Appeals to
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Speaker 1: dismiss the case outright, and his argument goes deeper than
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Speaker 1: anyone jurk. He says the charges were never lawfully brought
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Speaker 1: in the first place, that no grand jury was ever
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Speaker 1: convened to weigh the evidence, and that Governor Tim Walls
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Speaker 1: improperly handed the prosecution to his own Attorney General, Keith
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Speaker 1: Ellison to get the murder charge. The public was demanding.
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Speaker 1: Joseph's words, the entire trial was a fraud. Now even
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Speaker 1: Elon Musk has chimed in posting simply free Chauvin and
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Speaker 1: calling the conviction unjust. This is Chauvin's third attempt to
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Speaker 1: get these charges thrown out. The Supreme Court it's already
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Speaker 1: turned him down twice, and lower courts have rejected petitions before.
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Speaker 2: See what happens with this one. To break down what
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Speaker 2: happens next.
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Speaker 1: And with this newest attempt to get these charges thrown out,
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Speaker 1: I'm honored to welcome Lieutenant Randy Sutton, founder of the
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Speaker 1: Wounded Blue Lieutenant. I think a lot of people think
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Speaker 1: that this was a political prosecution. A lot of people
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Speaker 1: believe that he didn't result his actions did not result
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Speaker 1: in the death of mister Floyd. And hopefully maybe this
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Speaker 1: is the chance he needs to finally sort of prove
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Speaker 1: his innocence for real, right.
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Speaker 6: I certainly hope so, But unfortunately I have my doubts
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Speaker 6: considering the politics involved with this. We have seen this
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Speaker 6: play out literally since the first day that the video
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Speaker 6: of George Floyd's arrest surfaced. I have never ever seen
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Speaker 6: a more political prosecution of a law enforcement officer in
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Speaker 6: my entire career. And I've seen plenty of law enforcement
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Speaker 6: officers falsely accused, false the uh prosecuted, But this is
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Speaker 6: the worst. This is the worst example that I have
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Speaker 6: ever seen. Derek Chauvin did absolutely nothing wrong and uh,
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Speaker 6: the three officers with him he were equally innocent. And
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Speaker 6: this was a uh. This was this was the biggest
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Speaker 6: miscarriage of justice that I've ever seen as a as
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Speaker 6: not just as a as a law enforcement officer, but
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Speaker 6: as a human being.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And you know, we had the big old riots, the BLM,
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Speaker 1: the Communist organization, put all this energy into making sure
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Speaker 1: the memory of George Floyd spread I remember his funeral.
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Speaker 2: They were in the middle of COVID.
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Speaker 1: Nobody can go and see the relatives dying in a hospital.
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Speaker 1: But yet George Floyd's allowed to have a room filled
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Speaker 1: with hundreds of people, all close together, no social distancing.
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Speaker 1: They erected statues for him. Well, Derek Chauvin was painted
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Speaker 1: as a murderer and now he sits in jail. And
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Speaker 1: the reality of this is, even if he gets actual
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Speaker 1: justice in his case, this country would be turned upside
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Speaker 1: down again. Right, the BLM will turn back out, and
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Speaker 1: even if he is able to walk free, he'll never
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Speaker 1: be able to live free in this country again, based
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Speaker 1: on what they've done to him.
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Speaker 6: Right, his life is absolutely ruined. Remember, he was also
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Speaker 6: almost murdered in jail as well. He was stabbed numerous times.
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Speaker 6: Now here, The reality here is that there was there
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Speaker 6: were so many aspects of this case that were that
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Speaker 6: were grounds for a dismissal and and overturning that between
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Speaker 6: the medical examiner being urged, not just urged, but being
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Speaker 6: forced to change his medical examiners finding to the assistant
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Speaker 6: police chief being caught on the on the stand lying
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Speaker 6: about the training that Derek Chauvin actually received. That technique
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Speaker 6: was of kneeling and by the way, he wasn' kneeling
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Speaker 6: on his neck, he was kneeling on his back. This
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Speaker 6: whole thing was was literally made up because of the
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Speaker 6: the politics of this and Ellison Keith Ellison, I mean,
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Speaker 6: you talk about an individual who shouldn't be prosecuting anything.
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Speaker 6: This was for. This is literally ordered from the governor
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Speaker 6: down to to literally silence anybody that didn't go along
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Speaker 6: with the realities of George Floyd's death. George Floyd career criminal,
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Speaker 6: violent individual, took all the all the fatal doses of
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Speaker 6: drugs that he that he took, and then they people
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Speaker 6: literally deified him. It's it's it's unbelievable now for anybody
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Speaker 6: that it really wants to dig deep into this case.
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Speaker 6: A journalist Liz Colin produced a film that is the
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Speaker 6: quintessential film and authority on this. It's called The Fall
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Speaker 6: of Minneapolis, and I urge everybody to take a look
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Speaker 6: at it. If you want to get your blood up
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Speaker 6: and see the true injustice of what took place, check
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Speaker 6: out this documentary film. It will make you crazy.
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Speaker 2: Look.
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Speaker 1: They turned a man who was a criminal, who was
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Speaker 1: on drugs, who was fighting with police officers into a hero,
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Speaker 1: and they demonized a man who was out there serving
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Speaker 1: the community, and look at all of the long term
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Speaker 1: effects to defunding police and everything that came after. This
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Speaker 1: was really just such a political stunt that destroyed so
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Speaker 1: many lives.
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Speaker 2: And look, said.
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Speaker 1: Tim wall State, surprise, surprise, Lieutenan, you do so much
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Speaker 1: great work.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being here.
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Speaker 1: If people want to go and learn more about the
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Speaker 1: Wounded Blue where would you let them go.
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Speaker 6: Well, let me just say one other thing that this
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Speaker 6: has had a long term effect on the emotional, mental,
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Speaker 6: and psychological health of American law enforcement officers around this nation.
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Speaker 6: This was a watershed moment when it came down to
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Speaker 6: the destruction of the faith that law enforcement officers had
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Speaker 6: in the system itself. So I urge people to go
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Speaker 6: to the Wounded Blue dot org. That's the Wounded Blue
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Speaker 6: dot Org. See who we are, see what we do.
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Speaker 6: If you're a law enforcement officer and you're struggling, remember
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Speaker 6: our motto, never forgotten, never alone. We're here for you.
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Speaker 2: Lieutenant. Thank you so much for being here, and thank
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Speaker 2: you for all the work you do.
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Speaker 6: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Is there anything more American than a hamburger, cheeseburger, whatever ground.
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Speaker 2: Beef in this country? Though it just hit a.
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Speaker 1: Record nearly seven dollars a pounds, so it's more expensive
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Speaker 1: where it sat five years ago. And this morning President
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Speaker 1: that number down. That's right, your burgers are going to
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Speaker 1: didn't realize we measured ground beef and metric tons. But
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Speaker 1: it's coming into the country without the tariff that normally
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Speaker 1: kicked in above a set limit, a tariff that can
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Speaker 2: When Trump says he secured.
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Speaker 1: A commitment that this imported beef gets sold to you
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Speaker 1: at a twenty five percent discount underneath market rates and
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Speaker 2: What important note for the record, President didn't say which
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Speaker 2: countries the beef is coming from.
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Speaker 1: Who exactly made that pricing commitment, or how it gets enforced.
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Speaker 1: Once it hits a grocery store, a formal order is
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Speaker 1: coming to put it in motion.
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Speaker 2: So why is beef this expensive to begin with? It
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Speaker 2: comes down to cattle.
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Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties, years of drought, punishing feed costs and
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Speaker 1: ranchers thinning their herds, trying to supply while demand stayed strong.
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Speaker 2: They'll forget that screwworm scare two.
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Speaker 1: Now, look, the cows have the same appetite, higher prices
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Speaker 1: and rebuilding a herd.
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Speaker 2: It's not something you.
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Speaker 1: Can just do very quickly fix years. And here's the
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Speaker 1: benefit to American people with this deal. It's simple, it's immediate,
21:28
Speaker 1: it's cheaper beef, and right now, for families getting hammered
21:31
Speaker 1: it to check out, they can use some cheaper prices now.
21:34
Speaker 2: It's temporary, just ninety days, built as.
21:36
Speaker 1: A bridge to carry consumers through while American ranchers slowly rebuild,
21:40
Speaker 1: and it pumps supply into a genuine shortage. And politically,
21:45
Speaker 1: it aimed straight at the number one issue on voters'
21:47
Speaker 1: minds heading into November, affordability, the cost of groceries, the
21:51
Speaker 1: cost of meat. If it works the way it's advertised,
21:54
Speaker 1: a family paying seven dollars a pound could be playing
21:57
Speaker 1: closer to five.
21:57
Speaker 2: It's a big deal.
21:59
Speaker 1: But not everyone's in favor of this move. The National
22:02
Speaker 1: Cattleman's Beef Association, they came out against the deal, arguing
22:06
Speaker 1: it does nothing to accomplish Trump's own stated goal of
22:09
Speaker 1: growing the American herd. Their logic, flood the market with
22:12
Speaker 1: cheap foreign beef and you push prices down on the
22:15
Speaker 1: same ranchers you're asking to expand, which gives them less
22:18
Speaker 1: reason to expand, not more. Cattleman's groups have fought foreign
22:22
Speaker 1: beef imports for years, and when Trump floated this very
22:24
Speaker 1: idea back in May, he pulled it after ranchers and
22:27
Speaker 1: members of Congress pushed hard. Now, some Republicans run easy
22:31
Speaker 1: about it tonight, and there's an open question hanging over
22:34
Speaker 1: the whole thing, with no country's name and no enforcement
22:37
Speaker 1: spelled out, will shoppers actually see that twenty five percent
22:40
Speaker 1: benefit or does get absorbed somewhere between the border and
22:43
Speaker 1: the meat case. So that's the trade off relief for
22:46
Speaker 1: the family buying dinner tonight. And also could it be
22:49
Speaker 1: a blow to the American rancher trying to stay in
22:51
Speaker 1: business a promised discount that for the moment comes without
22:55
Speaker 1: much fine print. Now, my next guest lives on the
22:58
Speaker 1: ranching side of the equation, running for state wide office
23:01
Speaker 1: and the biggest cattle state in the country. I mean,
23:03
Speaker 1: now both French rancher GOP nominee for Texas Railroad Commissioner bo.
23:08
Speaker 1: Welcome to David Pollock Prime Time. I don't know how
23:10
Speaker 1: to feel about this. I mean, I love hamburgers and
23:13
Speaker 1: the price of beef is a little disturbing. Ground beef
23:17
Speaker 1: not so much as steak. Steaks are very expensive. Ground beef,
23:19
Speaker 1: you can still find a deal, but we don't want
23:21
Speaker 1: to put our farmers out of business and compete with
23:22
Speaker 1: them with cheap foreign meat.
23:23
Speaker 2: So I don't know what to think about this. I'm
23:26
Speaker 2: looking for your take on this one.
23:28
Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, I think President Trump is rightly focused on
23:31
Speaker 7: how he can make affordability better for the November election.
23:35
Speaker 7: That's front and center on everybody's mind. So I think
23:38
Speaker 7: as hard as in the right place, I tend to
23:41
Speaker 7: if I had been in the room when this discussion
23:43
Speaker 7: came up, I think I would have been on the
23:44
Speaker 7: side of advising him not to do this, just because
23:48
Speaker 7: I think, you know, government interference in our markets is
23:52
Speaker 7: really never a good thing, and you know it is temporary.
23:56
Speaker 7: So maybe this will give us an opportunity to get
23:58
Speaker 7: through this election and and reset after that. But you're right,
24:01
Speaker 7: as a rancher, you know, we we have our costs
24:05
Speaker 7: on everything have gone way up, especially here in big
24:08
Speaker 7: parts of Texas. We've had, you know, years and years
24:11
Speaker 7: of drought, meaning we can't carry as many cattle on
24:15
Speaker 7: the on the ranch as we used to be able to,
24:17
Speaker 7: and so that really has more to do with why
24:20
Speaker 7: you know, our herd is lower numbers than it used
24:23
Speaker 7: to be, and I think that applies nationally. But you know, listen,
24:27
Speaker 7: when when the government interferes and and uh, you know,
24:31
Speaker 7: makes decisions like this, oftentimes that it has consequences that
24:36
Speaker 7: are unforeseen. And you know, my hope is is that
24:39
Speaker 7: we can actually rely on the markets to work efficiently,
24:42
Speaker 7: and and they were in the process of doing that.
24:44
Speaker 7: Of course, you know, ranchers are trying to rebuild their herds.
24:48
Speaker 7: They're incentivized to do so with you know, with with
24:51
Speaker 7: free market capitalism, and uh, yeah, that that's the that's
24:54
Speaker 7: the position I would prefer to see. But again, this
24:57
Speaker 7: is temporary, so hopefully it's it's not going to make
24:59
Speaker 7: a huge difference on the ranchers long term.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, I'm all for finding an approach
25:06
Speaker 1: to make beef more affordable for Americans. Americans love their beef,
25:10
Speaker 1: but it has been expensive. I mean at the price
25:13
Speaker 1: even at places like at big box stores, stakes are
25:15
Speaker 1: still very high. And I know ranchers are doing everything
25:17
Speaker 1: they can to get as much beef to the market
25:19
Speaker 1: as possible, but like you mentioned, it's not easy to
25:22
Speaker 1: really just increase the numbers of herds.
25:25
Speaker 2: Now.
25:25
Speaker 1: Are there other possible solutions to get the prices of
25:29
Speaker 1: beef down? Is there regulations that can be cut, is
25:32
Speaker 1: their incentives that they can provide, or is just are
25:35
Speaker 1: we sort of in a tough spot right now until
25:37
Speaker 1: the herds regrow.
25:39
Speaker 7: I mean, look, the prices of everything are much higher
25:42
Speaker 7: in the last few years because our government has printed
25:46
Speaker 7: so much money, injected more money into the supply, spent
25:50
Speaker 7: more money than they ever have, and all these things
25:53
Speaker 7: have just created massive inflation. And then you couple that
25:55
Speaker 7: with just the years of costs on agriculture and is
26:00
Speaker 7: going up with you know, equipment and insurance and labor,
26:03
Speaker 7: all of those costs have gone way up. And so
26:06
Speaker 7: you know, a ranch is a business, so they have
26:09
Speaker 7: to set pricing that allows them to make a profit,
26:14
Speaker 7: and you know, the market should determine that, but it's
26:19
Speaker 7: really been increasingly difficult. You know, I think something like
26:21
Speaker 7: ninety percent of ranches are not profitable, and it's just
26:26
Speaker 7: mainly because the cost of everything has gone up and
26:28
Speaker 7: the cost to reduce the beef has just gone way up,
26:32
Speaker 7: and so you know, I think that reducing the requirements
26:36
Speaker 7: on ranchers, reducing regulations, having free market forces, you know,
26:43
Speaker 7: really determine what pricing is. I think that's really the
26:46
Speaker 7: best way to go.
26:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm sure, I mean, we haven't seen, you know,
26:50
Speaker 1: the whole deal, and we don't know what the order
26:52
Speaker 1: actually looks like. I'm sure this president is not going
26:55
Speaker 1: to not consider the needs of the American ranchers. And
27:01
Speaker 1: maybe when this deal comes out, there's some incentives for
27:03
Speaker 1: American ranchers to increasesize their herds, and maybe there are
27:06
Speaker 1: some tax incentives and deregulation that that's going to be
27:09
Speaker 1: part of this deal as well. Because look, we need
27:11
Speaker 1: to get America farming again and ranching again, and we
27:15
Speaker 1: need these farmlands not to dry up and get bought
27:17
Speaker 1: up by China so they can build multi family homes
27:19
Speaker 1: on it and starve us of our own ability to
27:21
Speaker 1: produce food. I mean, we need to bring back American
27:23
Speaker 1: ranching and American food production, and I know that there's
27:26
Speaker 1: a way to do it, and I think this present
27:28
Speaker 1: is probably more focused on that to other people where
27:31
Speaker 1: how long do you think the beef prices will remain high?
27:35
Speaker 2: Is there something on the horizon.
27:37
Speaker 1: I mean, are the herd numbers coming back, or we
27:39
Speaker 1: maybe like a year or two out from be able
27:41
Speaker 1: to get ten dollars a pound you know New York
27:44
Speaker 1: strip at the grocery store, or those days gone.
27:47
Speaker 7: Now, I don't think you're ever going to see that again.
27:49
Speaker 7: Like I said, inflation has while we have reduced the
27:53
Speaker 7: rate of inflation, the prices don't ever actually go down.
27:56
Speaker 7: It's just the rate of inflation has gone down. And
27:58
Speaker 7: so you know, we are in a new norm. I think.
28:01
Speaker 7: But again, if if we can just reduce the actual
28:04
Speaker 7: costs on ranchers, that all the other costs, like I said, insurance, labor,
28:07
Speaker 7: things like that, that that is how we can make
28:10
Speaker 7: it where ranchers are incentivized to stay in business. Of course,
28:14
Speaker 7: we need rain often and at the right time to
28:18
Speaker 7: grow what we need to grow so that the cattle
28:20
Speaker 7: can harvest the natural range that they consume. And so
28:25
Speaker 7: you know, for those reasons, there's just not a lot
28:28
Speaker 7: we can do. Now we can as a government. The
28:31
Speaker 7: government can certainly interfere in ways that disrupt the markets.
28:35
Speaker 7: And I think that's what the fear is here is
28:37
Speaker 7: is this really going to be a disruption that is
28:39
Speaker 7: ultimately harmful for the market. My hope is is that
28:42
Speaker 7: long term it is not, but you know that remains
28:45
Speaker 7: to be seen.
28:46
Speaker 1: Now, both people want to come and learn more about
28:48
Speaker 1: your campaign. Help you out in Texas because we're trying to.
28:51
Speaker 2: Keep the a red state.
28:53
Speaker 1: With tall Rico running around and trying to stir up
28:56
Speaker 1: some comrades for his socialist revolution, where can they go
28:59
Speaker 1: to help you out?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, remember I'm running for the Texas Railroad Commission,
29:03
Speaker 7: which has nothing to do with agriculture or railroads. It's
29:06
Speaker 7: the regulator for the oil and gas industry, which also
29:09
Speaker 7: you know, affects everything every cost you pay your price
29:12
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Speaker 1: We wish you the best luck and could look to you.
29:18
Speaker 1: We're big supporter Zevy and we appreciate you coming on
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Speaker 1: the show.
29:21
Speaker 7: Thank you so much.
29:22
Speaker 2: Thank you.
29:23
Speaker 1: When we come back, Milania Trump takes her Foster Care
29:27
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29:30
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29:34
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29:37
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29:40
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29:43
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Speaker 1: Yesterday in the Rose Garden, Milania Trump did something you rarely.
30:37
Speaker 2: See in Washington.
30:38
Speaker 1: She took a charity for foster kids and turned it
30:41
Speaker 1: into a race car.
30:42
Speaker 2: And this Sunday, that.
30:44
Speaker 1: Car and that cause will take a lap in front
30:47
Speaker 1: of the entire country. Let's talk about the cause itself.
30:50
Speaker 1: Milania first launched the Be Best program in twenty eighteen.
30:54
Speaker 1: Her signature platform focused broadly on the well being of children,
30:58
Speaker 1: their health, their safety on line, the damage.
31:00
Speaker 2: To opioid epetic does to kids. That's the umbrella.
31:04
Speaker 1: Everything she does as First Lady lives under Being Best.
31:08
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, she built a program underneath that
31:10
Speaker 1: umbrella aimed squarely at the group, the children stuck in
31:14
Speaker 1: the foster care system. That program called Fostering the Future.
31:18
Speaker 1: So when you hear both names this weekend, that's the relationship.
31:21
Speaker 1: Be Best, that's the platform. Fostering the Future, well, that's
31:25
Speaker 1: helping foster care students.
31:26
Speaker 2: And this week Fostering the Future landed a two.
31:28
Speaker 1: Million dollar boost, a million dollars from Fox Corp. A
31:32
Speaker 1: million from andycar to fund college scholarships for young people
31:36
Speaker 1: aging out of the foster care system. It creates new
31:39
Speaker 1: scholarships at Indiana University and Purdue and brings her national
31:43
Speaker 1: network to twenty six colleges and universities.
31:46
Speaker 2: The whole point is the kids. Almost nobody fights for.
31:49
Speaker 1: The ones who turn eighteen and in the system have
31:52
Speaker 1: nowhere to go overnight, no family, no safety net, nowhere
31:56
Speaker 1: to go. This gives them a real shot at a degree.
32:00
Speaker 1: And sitting right there in the rose guard next to
32:02
Speaker 1: the First Lady was an actual Indie car wrapped in red, white.
32:06
Speaker 2: And blue carrying the be Best logo beautiful and powerful.
32:10
Speaker 1: That car is where the marketing turns genuinely clever, because
32:14
Speaker 1: this weekend, Washington, DC hosts the Freedom to fifty Grand Prix,
32:19
Speaker 1: the first auto race in history run on the National
32:22
Speaker 1: Mall stage to celebrate America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday,
32:25
Speaker 1: and every single car in that race carries that same.
32:29
Speaker 2: Specially designed be Best logo.
32:32
Speaker 1: So no matter who takes a check or flag on Sunday,
32:35
Speaker 1: whoever wins, crosses that finish line carrying Milania's.
32:38
Speaker 2: Message about foster children.
32:40
Speaker 1: The logo is painted right onto the track on the
32:43
Speaker 1: over past at Seventh Street, and the whole race airs
32:46
Speaker 1: nationally on Fox and FS one all weekend long. A
32:50
Speaker 1: cause that normally gets zero airtime is about to be
32:53
Speaker 1: seen by millions of people watching race cars screen past
32:56
Speaker 1: the Washington Monument. Joining me now, Mark Beckman, CEO of
33:00
Speaker 1: DMA United and senior advisor to First Lady Milania Trump.
33:05
Speaker 2: What an exciting.
33:06
Speaker 1: Weekend coming up, and what an interesting way to promote
33:09
Speaker 1: fostering the future, which is an amazing program part of
33:12
Speaker 1: this amazing be Best operation where the First Lady is
33:16
Speaker 1: really trying to give back to the youth of American
33:18
Speaker 1: doing an amazing.
33:19
Speaker 2: Job at it. Talk about how big this is to have.
33:23
Speaker 1: Not only the event in the Rose Guard but fostering
33:25
Speaker 1: the future all over this amazing IndyCar race that's happening
33:29
Speaker 1: for the first time in Washington, DC.
33:33
Speaker 8: The First Lady has truly put together a one of
33:36
Speaker 8: a kind marketing vertical. There's no doubt that no first
33:41
Speaker 8: Lady in history has ever done anything like this. Let's
33:44
Speaker 8: start with the Rose Guarden event.
33:46
Speaker 5: We had a.
33:47
Speaker 8: Fostering the Future be Best branded Indiecar, that cherry red
33:52
Speaker 8: iconic car coupled with a limited edition, one of a
33:56
Speaker 8: kind Milania be Best helmet designed by the champ and
34:00
Speaker 8: drivers from Indy Car. That car, by the way, was
34:04
Speaker 8: brought into the Rose Garden via a crane. It's the
34:07
Speaker 8: most incredible thing that they did. Now, what's important, of course,
34:12
Speaker 8: the most important part of this is that IndyCar and
34:15
Speaker 8: Fox are contributing two million dollars to fund scholarships for
34:20
Speaker 8: America's foster care children at Indiana University and Purdue University,
34:25
Speaker 8: all tied together at the vision and expertise of First
34:28
Speaker 8: Lady Milania Trump.
34:30
Speaker 2: But that's not it.
34:31
Speaker 8: As you mentioned, this program is extending over the entire weekend.
34:35
Speaker 8: So what they've done is Indy Car has agreed to
34:38
Speaker 8: have a be Best Fostering the Future sticker on every
34:41
Speaker 8: single car in the race this weekend, as well as
34:45
Speaker 8: on overhead passes bridgeways that the cars will zoom under
34:50
Speaker 8: as they're racing around our nation's capital for the Grand Prix.
34:53
Speaker 8: So this has never been done before. It's the first
34:56
Speaker 8: time a First Lady is doing anything of this nature.
34:59
Speaker 8: Once again, we have to give our first Lady credit.
35:01
Speaker 8: She's definitely an innovator when it comes to marketing and
35:05
Speaker 8: we're raising money, we're helping people in the process, two
35:09
Speaker 8: million dollars for scholarships at Indiana and Purdue University.
35:14
Speaker 2: And that is such an important thing.
35:16
Speaker 1: And we've spoken about this is really providing this place
35:20
Speaker 1: for foster youths to go when they age out of
35:23
Speaker 1: the system, and this first Lady, rather than let them
35:26
Speaker 1: go and just bend for themselves, she's providing a bridge
35:30
Speaker 1: to really having a much better life. And she's doing
35:33
Speaker 1: it in the classiest way possible. But I mean the
35:36
Speaker 1: beauty of it, the way you put it together, it's
35:39
Speaker 1: so American and it's so cool talk about how important
35:43
Speaker 1: it is to provide this bridge for foster students that
35:46
Speaker 1: get this education so they can be successful, so they
35:48
Speaker 1: can be best.
35:51
Speaker 8: It's really important. Unfortunately, only three percent of individuals who
35:56
Speaker 8: reach the age of majority in America who are from
36:00
Speaker 8: foster care, so just three percent of these individuals go
36:03
Speaker 8: on and graduate college or university.
36:05
Speaker 5: Three percent.
36:06
Speaker 8: So as a result, many of them end up homeless,
36:10
Speaker 8: mixed up in drugs, in crime and beyond. So what
36:13
Speaker 8: the First Lady is doing is she's trying to take
36:15
Speaker 8: that ninety seven percent gap and get everybody educated, give
36:19
Speaker 8: them a foundation of knowledge so that they could secure
36:23
Speaker 8: an entry level job and then from there go on
36:27
Speaker 8: and have financial independence. This will take them off of
36:30
Speaker 8: the streets and perhaps create the next Steve Jobs, the
36:33
Speaker 8: next Elon Musk, the next President, the next First Lady
36:37
Speaker 8: of the United States of America.
36:39
Speaker 5: We'll give back to.
36:40
Speaker 8: America's communities, will remove children off of the financial aid
36:45
Speaker 8: of the government and create autonomy within our nation. And
36:49
Speaker 8: that's what Fostering in the Future is all about.
36:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an amazing program.
36:54
Speaker 1: And the funny thing was that I love how she
36:55
Speaker 1: came out at the Rose Card and she's like, oh.
36:58
Speaker 2: You were wondering where I was.
37:00
Speaker 1: She's planning this amazing event which I can't even imagine.
37:03
Speaker 1: If you've seen you've seen your wonderful movie about Milania.
37:06
Speaker 1: When you see how much detail and how much thought
37:09
Speaker 1: she puts into everything she does, about the way it looks,
37:12
Speaker 1: the way it appears, making sure it's perfect, you can
37:14
Speaker 1: imagine how busy she has been trying to make sure
37:18
Speaker 1: this event is exactly what she envisions that it's going
37:21
Speaker 1: to be, and it's already turning out spectacularly.
37:23
Speaker 2: I can imagine. It's a lot of work, right, I'll.
37:27
Speaker 8: Tell I mean, thanks for asking. It's two months of
37:29
Speaker 8: work behind the scenes. She came up with the idea,
37:33
Speaker 8: we contacted mister Penske over at IndyCar and we architected
37:37
Speaker 8: the entire thing, every single detail that you see the
37:41
Speaker 8: first lady's involved in. Now keep in mind, this isn't
37:43
Speaker 8: the only thing she's doing. We just also had our
37:46
Speaker 8: sixth reunification of Ukrainian and Russian children with their families
37:51
Speaker 8: a few days earlier on Monday. While she's planning forward
37:54
Speaker 8: for the nation, the upcoming China State visit United Nations
38:00
Speaker 8: General Assembly, two events, and a lot more that's going
38:03
Speaker 8: to be happening throughout the fall and into the winter.
38:06
Speaker 8: So people look for optics how many appearances, which I
38:09
Speaker 8: think is really shallow. If the people in your audience,
38:13
Speaker 8: the people in oan really want to think about it,
38:16
Speaker 8: what they should think about is results, not optics. This
38:19
Speaker 8: First Lady is results oriented. We're seeing it with two
38:22
Speaker 8: pieces of legislation, an executive order, a network of schools
38:28
Speaker 8: for fostering the future that includes twenty six great universities.
38:32
Speaker 8: Now the fostering of the future accounts the fostering in
38:36
Speaker 8: the future together global coalition of Nations. I mean, I
38:39
Speaker 8: could see here, David and go on and on and on.
38:41
Speaker 8: What this woman is doing is impacting lives both domestically
38:45
Speaker 8: and internationally for the better.
38:48
Speaker 1: She's an amazing First Lady, and it's such a shame
38:50
Speaker 1: that the press doesn't cover her fairly. If they did,
38:53
Speaker 1: this country would realize how blessed we are to have her.
38:56
Speaker 2: And the reunification alone.
38:57
Speaker 1: We're going to talk next week about the reunification because
38:59
Speaker 1: that's story in of itself that's worthy of a segment,
39:02
Speaker 1: because it's worthy of a whole hour because of what
39:04
Speaker 1: the impact she's making on so many families who have
39:07
Speaker 1: been affected by Warren. And so I look forward to
39:09
Speaker 1: talking to you next week about that. But man, congratulations
39:12
Speaker 1: on a wonderful event. It's going to be an amazing weekend.
39:15
Speaker 1: And congratulations to the first lady for pulling it off
39:17
Speaker 1: in such a beautiful and spectacular manner.
39:21
Speaker 5: Thank you so much.
39:22
Speaker 8: And you know that the winner will have a be
39:24
Speaker 8: best Foster in the Future sticker on it.
39:27
Speaker 2: Amazing, amazing.
39:28
Speaker 1: Well, you know, the real winners are the people who
39:30
Speaker 1: are going to benefit from fostering the future.
39:32
Speaker 2: But the winner of that race is going to have
39:34
Speaker 2: a fantastic sticker to go along with it.
39:35
Speaker 9: Mark Beckman, always a matter what it's branded, that's right,
39:39
Speaker 9: Mark's It's always a pleasure having you on and look
39:43
Speaker 9: forward to talking to you next week about the reunification.
39:46
Speaker 2: What a cool story that's going to be. Likewise still
39:51
Speaker 2: to come.
39:52
Speaker 1: It's fired up Friday, a Senate runoff down to the
39:55
Speaker 1: wire in South Carolina and the Conservative movement, well they're
39:58
Speaker 1: split right down the middle. Chad Katon's fired up about
40:02
Speaker 1: the choices in South Carolina.
40:03
Speaker 2: And we have more on that when we return don't
40:05
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Speaker 1: Next Tuesday, Republicans in South Carolina head back to the
41:52
Speaker 1: polls to finish a job that started with tragedy. They're
41:55
Speaker 1: choosing who will fill the United States Senate seat left
41:59
Speaker 1: empty by the sun death of Lindsay Graham and has
42:02
Speaker 1: turned into one of the most closely watched runoffs in
42:04
Speaker 1: the country. Lindsay Graham died unexpectedly on June eleventh. He
42:08
Speaker 1: had already won his primary for re election, so as
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Speaker 1: passing left Republicans needing a whole new candidate for November,
42:14
Speaker 1: the governor, Henry McMaster appointed Graham's sister, Darlene Graham, to
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Speaker 1: hold the seat in the meantime, making her the first
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Speaker 1: woman ever to represent South Carolina in the Senate. Then
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Speaker 1: came the special primary on August eleventh. Ten Republicans on
42:30
Speaker 1: the ballot, Darlene Graham, while she finished first gongs and
42:33
Speaker 1: Ralph Norman finished second, but neither one cleared the fifty
42:36
Speaker 1: percent hurdle. So now it comes down to a one
42:39
Speaker 1: on one runoff next Tuesday, August twenty fifth. And these
42:43
Speaker 1: are two very different Republicans. Darlene Graham, Well, she's a
42:46
Speaker 1: political newcomer. She spent her career in disability services, never
42:50
Speaker 1: held elected office, and she's running on her late brother's
42:53
Speaker 1: legacy and on what she's already done. In her first
42:56
Speaker 1: weeks in the Senate. She helped pass a major Rusher
42:59
Speaker 1: sanctions passage package, she voted to confirm Attorney General Todd Blanche,
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Speaker 1: and she picked up the president's endorsement. She's running as
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Speaker 1: an outsider. Guilty is charged, she says, for not being
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Speaker 1: a politician.
43:12
Speaker 2: Now. Ralph Norman is the opposite.
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Speaker 1: He's a Freedom Caucus conservative, a businessman, he's served in
43:17
Speaker 1: Congress for years, and he just ran a statewide race
43:20
Speaker 1: for governor earlier this cycle. His whole case is experience.
43:24
Speaker 1: That for a six year term in the Senate is
43:28
Speaker 1: in a dangerous world, you'd want somebody who's been tested
43:31
Speaker 1: with some experience. And he's questioned whether voters have had
43:35
Speaker 1: enough time to vet a newcomer for the job. That big,
43:38
Speaker 1: that question got very real at their debate on Tuesday night,
43:41
Speaker 1: Graham was asked about Taiwan and a South China Sea
43:44
Speaker 1: and look at her answer.
43:46
Speaker 11: I'm just going to be honest to you. I'm not
43:48
Speaker 11: on national security that I'm not that informed on national security.
43:52
Speaker 11: So but I do support the military. My brother was
43:58
Speaker 11: in the Air Force for thirty three years, So I
44:01
Speaker 11: will do everything I can to support the military.
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Speaker 2: National security's not a thing, but she loves the military.
44:08
Speaker 2: That's good. Norman jumped on it, of course, pointing to
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Speaker 2: his own record. That's the fault line of this whole.
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Speaker 1: Race, the outsider who says she'll learn against the veteran
44:19
Speaker 1: who says the job doesn't come with time for a
44:21
Speaker 1: learning curve. The endorsman show you just how split the
44:25
Speaker 1: party is. Lined Up behind Graham, you have President Trump,
44:27
Speaker 1: Tim Scott, Senator Majority Leader John Thune.
44:30
Speaker 2: Well that's its qualifier right there.
44:32
Speaker 1: Senator Tom Cotton lined up behind Norman, former Governor Nikki Haley,
44:36
Speaker 1: and former Senator Jim Demitt, two of the biggest names
44:39
Speaker 1: in South Carolina conservative politics. Now there's real money into
44:42
Speaker 1: it as well, a super pac that wants back Lindsey
44:44
Speaker 1: Graham is now spending heavily to get a sister across
44:47
Speaker 1: the line. Whoever wins Tuesday is the heavy favorite to
44:50
Speaker 1: hold the seat in November. And there's nobody I'd rather
44:53
Speaker 1: break this one down with on a Friday than my
44:56
Speaker 1: friend Chad Cayton, who is fired up about this. Independent
45:00
Speaker 1: journalist and founder of Operation Free Nation, Chad Cayton, Welcome
45:03
Speaker 1: back to Fired Up Friday. I know how you feel
45:07
Speaker 1: about Noreen Graham or whatever her name is. I know
45:13
Speaker 1: how you feel about it.
45:14
Speaker 2: You say, I don't even care what her name is.
45:19
Speaker 1: You said it was, uh, what did you call senator
45:22
Speaker 1: birthright senatorship?
45:24
Speaker 12: No birthship is South Carolina.
45:27
Speaker 2: So talk about this.
45:29
Speaker 1: I mean, look, look, we and Lindsay's death was tragic honoring.
45:33
Speaker 1: It is common to honor a late senator with putting
45:36
Speaker 1: a family member in their place, but it is not
45:40
Speaker 1: common to basically support that family member who's never been
45:44
Speaker 1: in politics to take the seat in the Senate.
45:46
Speaker 2: I mean, we're talking about the Senate. This isn't even
45:48
Speaker 2: like some like small house seats somewhere.
45:50
Speaker 1: This is the United States Senate and she's actually doing
45:53
Speaker 1: well in the bowls.
45:54
Speaker 2: So what's going on here? Chad?
45:57
Speaker 12: The power of the Trump endorsement. Ain't no, But South
46:01
Speaker 12: Carolina has had a tendency to not allow somebody else
46:05
Speaker 12: to come in and tell them how to vote. You
46:07
Speaker 12: remember in the primary, you had Nancy Mace, had somebody
46:11
Speaker 12: else that was endorsed by Donald Trump that didn't go
46:14
Speaker 12: so well. Nancy Mayce won. There's another person that had
46:18
Speaker 12: beef with Trump, but they got past it now is
46:20
Speaker 12: Lindsey Graham, and he didn't get moved anywhere, shape or form,
46:25
Speaker 12: because South Carolina is real big on not letting somebody
46:29
Speaker 12: tell them how.
46:30
Speaker 5: To do things.
46:31
Speaker 12: And after the debate, we have gone past the sweet
46:34
Speaker 12: little sister that's warning her brother's death to somebody that
46:38
Speaker 12: wants to be in the Senate for six years in
46:41
Speaker 12: a very dangerous world. And right now the United States,
46:46
Speaker 12: South Carolina and the rest of the world deserves better.
46:51
Speaker 12: We need a leader in the Senate, not an intern.
46:55
Speaker 12: And right now, after you've seen multiple videos and her debate,
47:01
Speaker 12: to say to the American people in South Carolina, it's
47:06
Speaker 12: just not my thing. National Security the.
47:09
Speaker 2: Sentence job is to ratify treaties.
47:12
Speaker 13: Their job is to get on the budget of our
47:15
Speaker 13: military to be able to sit there and put up
47:19
Speaker 13: a ribbon on your car and say that I stand
47:21
Speaker 13: with the military in any way, shape or form, is
47:24
Speaker 13: some way a qualifier.
47:27
Speaker 2: For you to be one of one hundred senators.
47:30
Speaker 12: Is an abject failure in this system. We deserve better,
47:35
Speaker 12: the American people deserve better, and this nepotism thing has
47:40
Speaker 12: got to go. And if you look at who's endorsing her,
47:43
Speaker 12: it's the establishment machine, the Dixie Democrats of South Carolina
47:48
Speaker 12: that are going after not to mention one of Kamala's
47:51
Speaker 12: super packs and one of Bernie Sanders super packs. And
47:54
Speaker 12: if we really want to go to the floor, you've
47:57
Speaker 12: got legislators in the South Carolina ASSEM believe right now
48:01
Speaker 12: that are Democrats saying, hey, Democrats, if you didn't vote
48:04
Speaker 12: in the other primary, feel free to jump into this
48:07
Speaker 12: one because we have the Dixie Democrats running Columbia and
48:11
Speaker 12: those people refuse to close our elections.
48:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're damn right on, fired up, David.
48:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you should, and I understand you're being
48:20
Speaker 1: fired up about this one. And look, I in primaries,
48:22
Speaker 1: I usually try to stay pretty neutral because we don't
48:25
Speaker 1: know who's gonna win, and I lively leave it to
48:27
Speaker 1: the people of those states. To decide who gets to
48:29
Speaker 1: represent them. I can give my opinion if I have one,
48:32
Speaker 1: if it really actually impacts me.
48:34
Speaker 2: But on this one, I'm having a hard time getting behind.
48:37
Speaker 2: Uh what what is it? Darlee? What is her name?
48:41
Speaker 2: Darlene Darlee? That's what Darlee Graham.
48:45
Speaker 1: That's right, because she changed her last name, and I
48:47
Speaker 1: keep forgetting what her last name was before she changed
48:49
Speaker 1: into Graham, which and that and that is the weirdest
48:52
Speaker 1: part about all of this, right, the fact that you know,
48:55
Speaker 1: here comes a woman, she changes her last name.
48:57
Speaker 2: It's like the second she sat.
48:58
Speaker 1: In the seat, it was almost like you decided that
49:00
Speaker 1: she was going to run for by changing her name
49:02
Speaker 1: to Graham.
49:03
Speaker 2: And then you know this whole debate. I'm not a
49:07
Speaker 2: national security is not my thing?
49:08
Speaker 5: Now?
49:09
Speaker 1: She when she But I want to tell you something
49:11
Speaker 1: because this is what struck me by that, and this
49:13
Speaker 1: is where I became no longer neutral.
49:15
Speaker 5: Now.
49:15
Speaker 2: I love Rep. Norman.
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Speaker 1: I think he does a great job. He comes on
49:18
Speaker 1: this show. He's a super nice gentleman. He understands the issues.
49:22
Speaker 1: He's a conservative or real conservative. And you know, my
49:25
Speaker 1: issue is when somebody says national security isn't my thing,
49:28
Speaker 1: but I support our troops. What I hear is something
49:31
Speaker 1: that was notus notoriously Lindsey Graham, and that's I'm going
49:35
Speaker 1: to vote for endless money to go to our troops.
49:38
Speaker 1: I'm going to fund war as long as somebody asks
49:41
Speaker 1: me for that check. But I don't understand what those
49:43
Speaker 1: people are actually suiting up to go and do, because
49:46
Speaker 1: I don't understand national security.
49:47
Speaker 2: It's not my thing. So what we don't need.
49:50
Speaker 1: We need to fund the troops as much as we
49:51
Speaker 1: can fund them. But what we don't need is a
49:52
Speaker 1: blank check to go to war and a senator that
49:54
Speaker 1: doesn't understand the battles we're sending our young men and
49:58
Speaker 1: women into. That's what concern This isn't a house seat.
50:01
Speaker 1: This isn't where the outsiders go to serve. That's for
50:04
Speaker 1: the House. You know, send us your farmers, send us,
50:07
Speaker 1: your disability services workers, send us whoever. That's a representative government.
50:12
Speaker 1: You go through the community, you serve two years, and
50:13
Speaker 1: you go home. Let's put term limits on that. Let's
50:16
Speaker 1: make that a representative body.
50:17
Speaker 2: This is the Senate. The Senate is its own thing
50:20
Speaker 2: for a reason. These are your elder statesmen.
50:22
Speaker 1: These are the people that are supposed to rise above
50:25
Speaker 1: all of the politics and really do the hard work
50:27
Speaker 1: necessary to govern our country. And this is the best
50:30
Speaker 1: you can do in South Carolina. I'm not buying it.
50:33
Speaker 12: I'm not buying it either, and neither are the people
50:35
Speaker 12: of South Carolina. I'm telling you right now, you can't
50:38
Speaker 12: go on any social media nowhere, and I'm telling you
50:40
Speaker 12: social media a real life. But tonight is going to
50:43
Speaker 12: be a very interesting rally with President Trump in Myrtle Beach.
50:46
Speaker 12: Myrtle Beach is a very, very very red pro Trump county.
50:51
Speaker 12: But there's also Russell Fry who jumped into this, who
50:54
Speaker 12: was running for the House seat and the Senate at
50:56
Speaker 12: the same time and lost in the Senate race.
50:59
Speaker 2: And I'm wondering if he's going to be.
51:00
Speaker 12: Brought out because the people of Oree County, South Carolina,
51:03
Speaker 12: are a little.
51:04
Speaker 2: Mythed that he put the House seat in what could.
51:08
Speaker 12: Be a Democrat could take it over, because he let
51:11
Speaker 12: it sit while he ran for Senate and lost.
51:14
Speaker 2: There's a whole lot of different.
51:16
Speaker 12: Dramas playing out here tonight, not to mention a severe
51:19
Speaker 12: thunderstorm that is hitting Martle Beach right now, and so
51:22
Speaker 12: when this happens and tonight's rally, I'm Barry. I'm calling
51:27
Speaker 12: Ralph Norman by five points. I just don't see it.
51:30
Speaker 12: And I know that the South Carolina people, although we
51:33
Speaker 12: respect Donald Trump and we love President Trump, this is
51:37
Speaker 12: South Carolina. We'll make our own decisions, thank you very much, sir.
51:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look and look, I do support the President,
51:43
Speaker 1: and I appreciate his endorsements. The President, And just to
51:45
Speaker 1: be clear, the President has his own reasons for endorsing
51:48
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that Norman's not going to make a
51:50
Speaker 1: great senator. The President has his own reasons for endorsing
51:52
Speaker 1: who he endorses, and he has to, at the end
51:54
Speaker 1: of the day, factor in a lot of different things.
51:56
Speaker 1: So it's not disrespectful to not support the person in
51:59
Speaker 1: this race that the President might not be supporting. I
52:01
Speaker 1: think Norman's a patriot, and Norman's been endorsed by the
52:04
Speaker 1: way for the House, so it's not like he doesn't carry.
52:07
Speaker 2: Trump's seal of approval.
52:08
Speaker 1: So I think, look, South Carolina has a lot of
52:11
Speaker 1: good options, you know, I think it's obvious where you
52:13
Speaker 1: fall on this one. And I guess we'll see what
52:15
Speaker 1: happens on Tuesday. Chad stay fired up.
52:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, it's early important.
52:21
Speaker 12: I'm actually helping the president out because Ralph Norman is
52:25
Speaker 12: the number one conservative voting elected official in the state.
52:30
Speaker 12: He is voted at ninety three percent with Donald Trump
52:33
Speaker 12: in all of his administration. Tim Scott can't even say
52:36
Speaker 12: that you're welcome, mister President, and the people of South
52:39
Speaker 12: carolinaa said you a fighter.
52:42
Speaker 2: Well, we'll see what happens on Tuesday. Jack Gayton Fired
52:45
Speaker 2: Up Fridays. Always love seeing you here. Brother.
52:47
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you next week. Ruh, Ralph, that's our
52:52
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52:52
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52:53
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52:55
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52:58
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