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Weekend Recap including the epic 49ers/Bears game, Tom Kakert talks Hawkeyes · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Hi, good afternoon. Welcome, Miller and Condon on a
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Monday. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
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Network. Trent Condon and Ken Miller,
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back with you for the next couple of hours talking sports
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with you. Thanks for starting your
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afternoon with us. Coming up, following us at 2:00
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off the bench, Lucas and Sean. But before that, we've got some
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work to do and here's going to join us on our radio program
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here at the bottom of the hour. We will head down to Florida,
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Tampa Bay. We'll catch up with Tom Caker,
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hawkeyereport.com. Tom has been on the ground
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there. I think the day after Christmas
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he got there. So we've seen a lot of practice,
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what he's been able to see. But every opportunity that the
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media has been given, Tom's been a part of it.
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So we will pick his brain on that.
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Bowl conversation with Tom Kakert at 12:30.
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David Kaplan is going to join us today normally.
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Well, obviously he is a Wednesday guest, but we're off
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on Wednesday. So Kappy's going to come on here
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at one O clock to recap, maybe with better football games of
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the year. I know the latest is always the
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greatest, but my good God, that was so much fun watching that
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game last night. So Kappy coming up in one O 2
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and then Bill Seals. I put him late in the program
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today just because seemingly every 10-15 minutes there's more
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news coming from Iowa. I've never seen anything like
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it. I know college sports has
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changed. I, I saw Oklahoma State still
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has more in the portal than Iowa State, but I don't know those
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guys. Oklahoma State.
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I watch these guys in Iowa State every week and it's just I, I, I
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honestly don't know what to make of it, Trent.
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I really don't. I, I get obviously the coaching
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change and you're free to follow or you're free to go wherever
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you want. And that has changed drastically
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and a lot of times for the better, but just one starter
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after another. These are not retro freshmen.
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No, these are not 4. Stringers.
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They're never going to play. These are not guys that are
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asked to move on right though they're some segment of
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cyclonation that believe that. That's well, there's probably a
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couple on there. Right, but not.
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No, no, no, no, you're not. You're not.
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You're going to take Rocco back to if he wants to come back,
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right? And Trevor?
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Burr right and. There's Marcus Leal and we put
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Jameson Pat and we can play this game for half an hour.
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Yeah. There's a lot of there's a lot
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of good football players that are hitting the transfer portal.
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I mean, here's the thing. When the music stops, will they
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all have a chair? Hard to say.
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Will they will they make what they were going to be offered to
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stay at Iowa State? We don't know what they were
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offered, what that number was. I find it hard to believe that
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they're all going to come out financially as well.
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I could Cool. Another good guy.
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Kept hearing about him, the offensive lineman.
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You remember when Nick Olson was here, that same kid.
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Oh. Absolutely, yeah.
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It was one of Nick's guys. Both of the tight ends.
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It's, I get the corners were injured last year.
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You don't know how they're going to be coming back from their
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injury, but so Jimmy Rogers obviously sat down with those
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kids individually, right? Most of them, yes.
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I mean, he just couldn't close the deal.
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Or was he apprehensive that these are Campbell's guys?
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And I want a new culture here? You're too close to Campbell.
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I do things differently, I mean. I can't buy that line of things.
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I can, I can and I can't. I could see it it, but it's just
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we're in charge of territory. Yes, we really and truly are,
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but it's just my good God who's next.
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When Bill Seals, who? We'll talk to you later, Yeah.
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Has his updated depth chart. Have you taken a peek at this
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thing? I can hardly imagine.
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Scholarship. Scholarship list.
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OK. They have 25 offensive
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scholarship players right now. Yeah, 25 one quarterback.
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Yeah, the third string quarterback.
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Kind of overly. You look at the offensive line,
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they have 8 offensive lineman. You need to have 15.
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Yeah. And a couple of those were
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graduation, but a lot of them were are now in the portal tight
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ends. Did Alexander leave or did he
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stay? I have not seen that name.
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He's listed here on the scholarship list that bill,
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which is updated I think last. Night.
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Is Chase Sowell on the on that list?
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Cause I've heard conflicting reports.
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On him, same thing. He is listed on here because
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there hasn't been an official announcement from Chase Sowell.
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But yeah, there's been a few things that are out there,
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Cooper Alexander and Keaton Rosecop, but those are guys that
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at least we know at the tight end position.
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But Austin Barrett gone. You are down to tell me.
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Stop me when you hear a name that you know.
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Cool, cool. No Derek Warden.
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No. Dontrelle Holt.
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No Derek Jensen. No Carson Rhodes, No Garrett
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Rutledge. And.
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What position are these guys? This is your This is your
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offensive line scholarship players.
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No, no. I.
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Just went through all of them, yeah.
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And we don't know. Look, the portal works both
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ways. It does.
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Jimmy Rogers had to how many, how many new kids went to
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Washington State? It was like 7070.
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Yeah. So obviously he's done it
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before. He's got the Big 12 behind him.
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We'll see where we'll see how it goes.
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We'll see how it goes because he's got all the linebackers are
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gone. Do you have the defensive?
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Yeah, chart there. Yeah, that's another.
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Let me click over to that one. Let's see.
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Totals scholarships 27 for next season.
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Right now looking at the linebacker spot.
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Carson Willich Yep. Well.
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Goodwin. OK know the name.
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Yep. Mason Miller.
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Nope. Will Hawthorne.
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I think I heard of him, yes. He was kind of a guy that got a
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little buzz, but a lot of people to jump over.
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He'll be a red shirt freshman and then the two incoming
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freshman, Bradley Esser and Landon Kelsbeck.
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Your defensive line OK inside Zamir Hawk.
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He's coming back. That's.
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Good. He's there.
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Yeah, that's good. Jace Gilbert, is he?
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No, he's gone. No, he stayed.
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Jace Gilbert's the backup kicker.
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Yeah, Gilbert stayed. Kamari Moore.
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OK, they get him to stay. That's a good one.
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That's good. That's a good one.
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Yep. I've been a bunch of guys we
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don't know on the outside. Trey Burden.
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Bunch of guys. We don't It just it's.
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Incredible here. Here's the positive.
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Here's the positive and and maybe it's not because it's
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changed. I was going to say you can sell
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playing time, but now playing time's not enough.
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How much you're paying me for that playing time, right in in
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the past, it would be a no brainer.
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I can go, I can start Iowa State, come, come with us.
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We got room. But now it's yeah, there's
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there's an opportunity to start. But you know, Ka Ching, how much
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is that going to be worth? We'll see where it goes.
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It's going to open next early January.
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There's probably going to be a name or two.
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What's going on with Abu Sama? He's listed here, he's listed,
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he's listed. He's going to get a lot of
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carries now behind what kind of offensive line he's going.
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To get killed. Absolutely you.
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I'm sure you saw the picture of the youngster that opened up his
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Ben Bramer jersey on Christmas Eve.
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Now was that real? I don't know if it was or not.
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It looked a little big for the young man regardless, even if it
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was staged just I mean both tugging at the heartstrings and.
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No, I saw it. This is college athletics.
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I mean, it was, it was definitely twofold that you
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felt. Look, if there's anybody that
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still believes that these kids commit to the school, unless
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they're a legacy, that that's out the window, right?
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They're committing to a, the paycheck or or a, the head
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coach, B, the paycheck or in either order and then playing
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time. But it's it's not, they're not
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committing yet. They love the opportunity, love
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the support that they get and that all goes along with it.
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But they've got a chance to leave now as well as they
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should. And boy, oh, boy, a lot of them
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are taking that opportunity. So more on that coming up.
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Do you anticipate once the bowl game is over for Iowa?
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Because there's only going to be a couple of days before you have
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to declare that we'll see some Hawks jump into the portal.
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I'm sure there will be. I mean, there's.
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Like a big name. Are you hearing anything like
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that? Maybe not that big name, but a
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but a guy that, you know, Mike playing the bowl game might have
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had some play 'cause I have not. Heard one thing that I think
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bears monitoring and this is I go back to a conversation we had
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was the last week or the week before Elliot Clough mentioned
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running back and it was right after Troll Washington.
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So it wasn't that. And Washington is gone because
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he's not even on the practice fields.
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And then I was reading Tom Caker, we'll talk to it a little
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bit, his message board, and he had something somewhat cryptic I
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thought in there. I don't think is just about a
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player leaving like Jazzy on Patterson, I think is the one
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that we. Probably that would be the one.
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You know, he goes down, goes home to some Sunbelt school,
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some Conference USA school, becomes the starter, has a nice
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year because he's a good running back.
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That makes sense. But the way that both Elliot put
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it, Taker put it, it feels like maybe there's more to it and
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maybe it's the new running back coach Omar Young because Kamari
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Moulton, he was interviewed. He's one of the players the
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other day and listening to him said, you know, just I can't
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remember the exact phrasing. He was it just they don't have
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the same connection they'd had to to Liddell.
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Well, that makes sense. Liddell bets recruited them.
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It was a big part of their lives.
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You know, knew these guys from the time, most of them were
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probably 15-16 years old. Played there, blah blah blah.
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Yeah. So you can get that.
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But I do wonder, just something to maybe file a way for later,
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not just a player, but could there be a coaching change at
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the running back spot? Just something to file away.
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I'm not reporting anything, right, right, right.
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Nobody else is reporting anything.
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Just hearing both of those guys mentioned in in the fashion that
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they did got my wheels turning a little bit and then I heard
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Moulton and that I think took it a step further.
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Granowski will start and go the distance in your mind.
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Yeah, after listening to Tim Lester, yeah, absolutely.
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So, so no opportunity for one of the youngsters, no, to get their
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feet wet there. Well, we'll see.
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What's the number 4 1/2 fives I think are out there right now?
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The gifted tight end for Vanderbilt is not going to play.
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He's going to be AI. Don't know Stour stores.
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Is that stours? He was with Pavia, New Mexico
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State. That's how he got.
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There. Wow.
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He was a high school quarterback.
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I'll be damned. And so it turned into a hell of
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a player. He's going to play on Sundays.
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Let's talk about that game last. Night.
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Let's do it. My good God, that game was so
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entertaining that really. Now, if you like offense, sure,
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you should put that caveat out there.
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If you're an old school defensive guy, that was not the
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game for. You Yeah.
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That was 1714. That was the score midway
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through the first quarter. 8 Purdy's the pick. 6 was not on
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him. Perfectly thrown ball.
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Hell of a plate. Was it Johnson?
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Yeah. Deflected it.
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And then into 53's arms. Who took Edwards.
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Edwards. Hell of a play. 7, nothing.
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Boom, before he even sat down, it was like 15 seconds into the
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game. And then it was just back and
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forth for the rest of the game. And Brock Purdy is just dealing,
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man. He is just dealing.
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Good God, he's a good quarterback.
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You know, and we saw Matt Jones and no Kittle.
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Yeah, no Kittle and Ton just looked like no pro.
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He did. We had the conversation.
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The times when Purdy was hurt, he came back too early.
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And Matt Jones was solid. Wasn't great, but he was solid.
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Well, is it really that big of a difference between Brock Purdy
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and Matt Jones? And not just on this program
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nationally. It was a conversation that was
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out there and it wasn't a stretch.
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It's not a knock on Iowa State guy, it just that was and then
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you see Pretty come back with the help that he has now.
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He gave me the answer. The the gap.
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Is significant huge? Yeah, I agree.
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Matt Jones with that system, was she in hand is fine.
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Yep. And what had happened?
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And he would. Succeed, I think, in other
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systems with, well, I bet Johnson.
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Yes, right. You put him in other systems now
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as a rookie. Hard to say.
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That's the great on, right? Right?
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He fell into a great situation, no doubt about it.
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However you see him, you see the gap between him and a solid
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backup quarterback of Mac Jones that could run their system.
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It is significant. He's playing at a level.
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At minimum, this is a top ten quarterback.
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Brock Purdy. I agree.
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At minimum I agree, and I think you can go even higher.
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Than you might be able to. He's unbelievable, Trent.
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The story is incredible and the performance on the field just
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amazing. How can you not like the guy?
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Seriously. Yeah.
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What? What?
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Not could you possibly have against Brock Purdy.
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Last night, as we were watching the game, my wife was explaining
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to the kids about why she likes the story so much.
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Yeah, last pick in the draft, right?
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And that resonates with so many. And my kids were just dumbfound.
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He was the last. And we said, you know, there's
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there's, you know, hundreds of people that are selected.
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He was the last guy and they just thought that was the
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coolest thing ever. And there's a lot of people that
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way. I'm sure that just like.
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What? Pick 270 with all the.
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Extra picks, the compensatory yeah, all the supplemental
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picks, yeah, it's. Amazing.
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And here he is doing it again. And this 49er team, you look
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around, the Eagles have a good defense.
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They do with a really good. Defense.
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They won their second game this year without completing pass in
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the second-half. They're going to win three
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straight games, that team. With that defense.
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Got score? Yeah, I don't see it.
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Yeah, Barclays Elite. The Seahawks are not doing it.
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I know you don't think they No, I'm I'm still.
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I'm still. I'm going to die on that hill.
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Sam Darnold has the most turnovers in the NFL.
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You know, I like everything else.
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Don't like him. Rams, yes, I mean, that's the a
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number one, but they're going to be the five seed.
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That's true. That's true, and they're going.
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To So what about the bears? What's their weakness?
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The details. Yeah, Purdy picked him apart
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last night. He did.
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But see. But yet they lead the league in
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turn. Takeaways.
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And that's going to have to still be the blueprint.
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I mean, they're going to have to be plus margin.
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Now, Caleb Williams, did you see the step he has thrown the least
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amount of interceptions in his first career?
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What thousand passes? At least anybody.
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Of anybody in NFL history through their first thousand
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passes in their career, he has the least amount of
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interceptions. There are the plays that
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frustrate. You.
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Well, the one bad play last night had that guy wide open in
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the flat and no one around him for 10 yards.
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He overthrew him by 10 yards out of bounds.
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And there was, but that was about it though.
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There's a couple of them were there, but that's kind of what
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you get with them. There's a couple of those plays
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or just make you pull your hair out.
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They're just so frustrated because it's there and you know,
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we can make that play. Overall, this guy continues and.
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Oh my God, he's good. He's fun to watch.
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You know, we go back to that first Packers game and that
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touchdown pass in the ends, and I said there's one guy, yeah,
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one guy outside of Caleb Williams that can make that.
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That's the one to Moore. Yeah, yeah.
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And the arm talent. It's absolutely there.
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It's ridiculous. It is what he can do.
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The touchdown to Loveland, Oh my God, and Collinsworth, Mike,
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he's giggling over there. The ball didn't go 10 yards off
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the ground. It just, he's in terms of just
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raw talent, he's amazing. And with the tutelage of Ben
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Johnson, I loved what also they said last night about Ben
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Johnson. Made it hard on him during
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training camp. And.
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Now it's not Ben Johnson getting mad at him, it's him getting
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mad. And that was after he dropped
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the F bomb in the bike. You heard that one, the open mic
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after the the penalty was called and as it was, it was a delayed
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game. I didn't hear it and delay it
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came and you could hear him drop the F bomb in the bike, not him.
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He didn't put his mouth into it, but he was just frustrated.
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But they brought that up as as he is hard on himself now, he
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doesn't have to have the coach be hard on him and that's
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something that needed to change. That's growing up.
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He's growing up. This is the most fun I've had
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watching the Bears in 40 years. Yeah, good to see that.
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Because even the great. Team hope now for sure.
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Oh absolutely, but they're still built on defense and run the
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ball with Walter. It was a completely different
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era. This team is so fun and even as
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the final play didn't happen but it's.
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Just that you had an opportunity.
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I had a smile on my face down. To one play at the end of Sunday
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Night Football, One play, you're going to make the play and
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you're going to win. And as we say, they didn't make
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the play and then it didn't go their way.
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Yes, that was that's one of the best games we've seen all year.
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And there's hope, Yeah. When Kyle Horton went 15 to 1, I
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had no hope. That team was winning a Super
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Bowl. When they went to the NFC
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Championship Game and Cutler got hurt, I still didn't have hope
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that they were going to finish the deal.
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Rex Grossman against Peyton Manning in the Super Bowl, I had
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no hope. Even with the opening kickoff
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being returned by Hester, I had no hope.
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I have hope not just for this year, but going forward with
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this organization, as you've heard me bitch about for the
16:06
last decade of Us Together and you obviously have seen Bears
16:09
fans for a long time and it's such an inept organization.
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It just so many future things year after year after year.
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And for the first time in a long time, it feels like they have it
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right. Yeah, there's an adult in the
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room in the head coaching office and it makes a huge, huge
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difference. What else from the NFL from over
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the weekend. What floated your boat as far as
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game wise? I love the fact we get Steelers
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Ravens on Sunday night. I I think that's I I found
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myself openly rooting for the Ravens stuff or for the Browns
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rather to knock off the Packers yesterday to get that done in
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the early game. Boy should or Sanders bad.
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My God, that was. Come on.
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I mean, that's got to be the top of the list of worst
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interceptions. Has to be you.
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We saw the old man sitting up in his private suite, took his
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cowboy hat and hit his face. He knew the cameras are going to
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find. Him I also love that we get stay
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in low window for Carolina Tampa.
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Yeah, that's good. That's good.
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And then the Sunday nighter for or the Saturday nighter rather
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for the one seed, that's good as well.
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I mean, Carolina, someone's going to win.
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Somebody is somebody's going to win.
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I think it's Carolina. Well, I do too, by the way.
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Tampa's going. Todd Bowles You have to Even if
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they win the division, don't you have to get rid of it?
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I. Thought he got a vote of
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confidence yesterday. Yuck.
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Yeah, I'm with you. He.
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Has a chance to if they win Tampa.
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There's been I think 6 instances with teams with losing records.
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Have won their division and got into the playoffs.
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He'll have two of them. That's Todd.
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Bowles. Any bowl games from that have
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been played so far? Yeah, Saturday.
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Watch quite a bit and had a family Christmas so keeping an
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eye on things. See any of the Hawaii.
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Bull not enough. Didn't see the comeback.
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We were driving back so I didn't get to see it.
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What a game because I look over and we're playing family games
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over at my cousin Chucks place and I see they're down 21.
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Nothing. I was on Hawaii side.
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I'm like well this ones dead. Yeah, I know you were on Tal.
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Yeah. And then I get the highlights
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after we get the presents under the tree when we get home
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Christmas night and and just see the way that that one unfolded,
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I really enjoyed. The buddy Zubin was working in
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studio. The BYU game.
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You know what I didn't What? The Georgia Tech, BYU.
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Yes, I was watching something else.
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Chargers. Taxes, probably.
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Yeah, probably. We just happen to have that one
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on. At the place we were.
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How about our Aztecs coming back and getting the cover?
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He did that. How many, how many picks did you
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get? Right?
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Do you know? Two and three?
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Yeah, me too. Yeah.
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But yeah, it's just, it's building.
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We'll get there. Yeah, it's about to ratchet up
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tomorrow. Yes, this is going to be the
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time we got two more clunkers, one this afternoon.
18:42
One tomorrow during the day and then a couple of good ones.
18:45
Illinois, Tennessee at 4:30, right?
18:47
Yes. And what's the late 1?
18:48
TCUUSC. That's good.
18:50
Yeah. One local angle though, for the
18:53
first game tomorrow, the 1:00 game with Coastal Carolina and
18:55
LA Tech Yeah, Jeremiah Johnson, who was the defensive corner at
18:59
you and I for 15 years and he bounced back and forth a couple
19:02
of places. So he was the defensive corner
19:04
at Louisiana Tech last year. Then he went to Coastal this
19:07
year and he's the ACTO mentoring head coach.
19:09
So at least a little local angle there with Jeremiah Johnson.
19:11
I know a lot of you and I fans certainly know that name.
19:13
So that gave me at least some kind of interest in that first
19:16
game tomorrow, but Georgia Southern App State today and.
19:20
The numbers gone crazy was 2. It's 10 app state.
19:23
It's 5:00 and 7:00 yet. Are you confident playing Ten
19:27
with Georgia? Southern, I mean the number
19:28
opened at 2. So what's going on?
19:30
It's, I mean, it moved over a touchdown.
19:31
Well, and I don't remember if App State was one of those teams
19:35
that at 5:00 and 7:00 they were on the APR list and we well,
19:39
there's still shits or if they just had to go down so far that
19:42
almost all these guys thought they were.
19:43
Done. Probably the latter.
19:44
And what they're going to have in terms of numbers for this
19:47
game. Maybe that's it.
19:49
It has to be. You know, something's going on
19:52
and you've all right. Since we've been on the air,
19:53
have we seen any portal conditions Friday?
19:56
I mean, I, I I hate the sound, you know, like, yeah, we have.
19:59
Carson Brown gone. Carson Brown, Carson.
20:01
Brown gone. He's entered the portal since
20:03
we've come on the air. There's another wide receiver.
20:05
Gone is that #40 it's, it's either 38 or 30.
20:10
Nine, I thought I mean approaching 40 in Oklahoma State
20:13
right now has the all time at 43.
20:15
So got to think under way on a Monday.
20:21
We're just looking at this. It truly is.
20:23
I mean it, I mean, it's got to be unbelievably, I'm going to
20:28
say unbearable right now because you got really good basketball
20:30
programs. But to be a Cyclone fan watching
20:33
your football team just implode, a you lost your head coach.
20:36
There goes the culture out the door with you.
20:38
One would assume your entire team not following him
20:41
necessarily. Some will.
20:42
How many? 6 to 6-7 See I'm with.
20:47
You I thought 10 would be the over under number and I thought
20:50
that was high. I got pushed.
20:52
Back on that. Oh, really?
20:53
I mean. Yeah, you're, they're going to
20:55
take, I don't know. We'll see how it ends up.
20:58
And I got to think with it very quickly in the month of January,
21:01
was that Monday? Is this open?
21:03
Monday. No, it opens Friday.
21:04
I I actually. Oh yeah, but Thursday's the 1st.
21:07
Yes, so Friday will be on the air.
21:09
Yep. And because we have one portal
21:11
window for the first time, there's no spring portal.
21:14
This is it. I am so interested and the lead
21:17
up. Remember this portal window
21:18
opened last couple years in December.
21:21
We're going through this and guys were committing and
21:23
everything was happening with this.
21:25
So much lag time that we've had. Is Friday just going to be?
21:29
Bananas. One after another, everything
21:33
lined up. The agents are there the.
21:35
GM there's over 1000, like maybe 1200 people already in the
21:39
portal. You don't want to just going to
21:41
see what else is out there because you might that offer
21:43
that might not be there. Is it just going to be Friday is
21:45
going to be as crazy of a day as we're going to have?
21:48
I believe it will be. I hope so.
21:49
I'm excited to be on the air live during that time because I
21:51
think we're going to have breaking news all over the place
21:54
of what's going to be happening that day.
21:55
Tom Caker joins us next. We'll head down to Tampa Bay.
21:58
Get the latest on the Hawks as they get set to take on Vandy.
22:02
Vandy about a five point favorite currently at most of
22:06
the legal books. Miller and Condon underway on a
22:08
Monday. Glad you're with us.
22:09
It's the Iowa Sports Radio Network by 12:30.
22:12
Millary Condon, welcome back. Iowa Sports Radio Network with
22:15
you here until 2:00. David Kaplan kicks off our
22:19
number two. More on the Bears and the Niners
22:21
from last night. What a football game.
22:24
And then Bill seals Trent the number.
22:27
Apparently you said it is 40. It is 40 Bill.
22:29
Bill has 40 listed on on the Rivals Network on three Cyclone
22:33
report. Good stuff.
22:35
Speaking of on three, Tom Cakerts runs hawkeyereport.com.
22:39
He's in Tampa. That's where I was getting set
22:41
to take on Vanderbilt on Wednesday morning central time
22:45
anyways, and Tom joins us. Hello, Tom Trenton, Ken, how are
22:48
you? I'm doing good about ready to
22:52
finally head outside for the first time today after we get
22:55
done talking so I can get some fresh air.
22:56
Been writing all day. Oh, I.
22:58
Figured a celebration. You guys were out too late
23:00
watching the Bears game last evening.
23:02
We were watching the Bears game. Mr. Chad Leisteco and I were
23:06
watching the our beloved Bears and, you know, yeah.
23:12
Hanging in the hospitality room. Yes, of course, John James has
23:16
told him to hold the port. Is he still there?
23:19
That's unbelievable. He's unbelievable.
23:21
All 7 Bull I've been, I think I'm, I, I officially I think I'm
23:26
the only one that's covered all 7.
23:28
So yeah, John, the first person I saw when I walked in the hotel
23:34
was John James. Yeah, he's the media liaison,
23:37
runs the media room and certainly looks after the media.
23:40
Good stuff. Well, let's let's catch up with
23:42
what you've been, what you've seen.
23:44
I know you've been able to watch what, 2015 20 minutes of
23:47
practice and then some of the off the field stuff just to take
23:51
away or to Tom somebody that you might thought might be
23:54
practicing that isn't or I'll just open the mic up to you and
23:58
what have you seen? Yeah, it's been interesting.
24:02
Focused a little bit on the defense the other day, just
24:05
watching what they're kind of doing, trying to combat Pavia
24:10
and trying to set things up against Pavia.
24:12
And maybe we'll see Jayden Harrell a little bit more and
24:17
run situations, and then you'll probably see Montgomery out
24:22
there a little more in the past situations, maybe some Jackson,
24:25
Rex Roth and their middle linebacker and some of those
24:30
past situations. But they've been really focused
24:33
on keeping contained, keeping Pavia inside the pocket and
24:37
keeping him middle of the field instead of sneaking outside.
24:41
So I thought that was interesting offensive side, not
24:47
a whole lot of interesting things to report, to be honest.
24:50
Just I think we're all focused a little bit more on Hecklinski,
24:54
just trying to get a feel for him more than anything else
24:57
because it seems like he's going to be the guy next year, at
25:00
least on paper right now. So and he's not a guy that we've
25:04
gotten to really talk to yet. So it's yeah, just getting to
25:09
getting to watch him and how he operates a little bit, how
25:12
throws the ball. Talk to Tim Lester about him and
25:14
he called him a gunslinger and he's going to throw the ball in
25:20
spots sometimes and there's going to be some good with the
25:23
bad with him. I kind of get to feel like he's
25:26
a little bit like Drew Tate, just kind of a guy that kind of
25:31
just play. He can be a little reckless and
25:34
he can be a little crazy, but but he's going to be out there
25:38
kind of one of those guys that you would call like a baller.
25:42
He just kind of goes out there and makes things happen.
25:44
Not comparing him to #4 in Green Bay, but I kind of get that
25:48
vibe. Gunslinger, yes.
25:50
Just take chances. A lot of good some.
25:52
Oh my God, I can't believe it. But 5 inches shorter.
25:55
Right. Yeah, I'm not saying he is.
25:57
Yes. Just this style maybe, yeah.
25:58
Hey, what to ask you about running back?
26:00
We're speculating and read your post after listening to the
26:03
interview they had with Kamari Bolton up on the website at
26:06
Hawkeye Report. I know it led to a lot of
26:08
speculation on the message board because that's what happens on
26:11
message boards. But you know, we've talked about
26:14
Jazzy on Patterson guy. He's done good things, but maybe
26:17
an opportunity for him to go to a Sunbelt program, go out there,
26:21
have a good senior year or something like that that makes
26:22
sense. You anticipate more.
26:24
Will there be a surprise there? And what about Omar Young and
26:27
you're number one? Just hearing Bolton say, you
26:29
know, just doesn't have the same kind of connection, I think led
26:32
to some of that speculation about Omar Young and you're
26:34
number one at the running back spot.
26:37
Yeah. And you know, some of that is
26:38
not really all that surprising because those guys were
26:41
recruited by Liddell Betts. And Liddell Betts is a very
26:43
different person than Omar Young.
26:46
And it might be very different. You know, you're just you.
26:50
You got a different guy coaching them.
26:52
You probably don't have the same relationship with them.
26:55
You know, remember, he came in late, too.
26:57
It was more like February when they hired Omar.
26:59
It was, or maybe it was just right before spring ball
27:02
started. So it was, this is kind of a
27:05
late situation. So I think some of that's pretty
27:10
normal that they would have some I, I, I don't think they dislike
27:14
Omar since they don't have that same connection with Omar.
27:17
And it's been pretty remarkable that Liddell had kept that room
27:22
together, given that there's, you know, only one or two guys
27:26
are going to get a lot of carries.
27:28
And you know, the year before with with Dale Johnson, it was
27:31
Cale Johnson and then maybe some scraps for some other guys
27:34
everywhere once in a while, as it should have been with the
27:36
season Caleb had. And he wondered if maybe some of
27:40
these guys would just get frustrated, want to go somewhere
27:42
else where they're going to be able to run the ball.
27:45
Maybe. I just kind of feel like this is
27:47
the the time when, you know, Toronto, Washington seems like
27:52
he's already out. We haven't seen him here.
27:54
So I assume he's he's out the door.
27:56
And he mentioned Jazz Patterson. He seems likely a candidate to
28:03
potentially leave too. So there's probably some guys,
28:07
but I don't sense Kumari's leaving.
28:09
I know people were worried. Now maybe Kumari's leaving
28:11
because he's 1. I don't get that sense.
28:13
You're going to leave a starting job in the Big 10?
28:16
I don't think so. So we'll see what happens.
28:20
But you know, I keep an eye on the portal.
28:24
Maybe there there's some some guys maybe that that they would
28:29
look at the the fill in there maybe a guy that might have been
28:32
an Ames or something. You know, we'll see.
28:35
Interesting, Tom, I know that, you know, back in the day, I
28:38
think it was, I want to see, was it the Orange Bowl that that
28:41
Norm Parker was using, the Coke cups?
28:44
Yep, right. The Orange Bowl.
28:46
Right, the orange. So have you seen Phil Parker?
28:48
I'm not saying he had any props with him, but how is he
28:51
preparing or getting his guys ready for Diego Pavia?
28:55
That was interesting. We talked to Phil the other day
28:58
and just about preparing for Pavia and he wasn't sharing a
29:03
whole lot. He just kind of said, you know,
29:06
we just the big thing was Phil is always you just can't give up
29:09
those explosive plays, those 25 yarders.
29:12
And that's that's probably his wheelhouse.
29:14
That's what he does for a living.
29:16
I mean, he's a huge risk taker. He's a guy who's going to go out
29:21
there and just try and make plays all the time and and those
29:26
last like the last four games of the year.
29:29
And that's all he did was just go out there and just ball and
29:32
make plays and averaged over 300 yards passing and running the
29:37
football. But the thing I wonder about
29:40
with Pavia is probably kind of gotten more concerned about
29:44
being a celebrity than a football player.
29:46
Yeah. Yeah, I could see that.
29:49
I I mean, we were anger and I went to the WWE thing the other
29:53
night and, and he was, he was in the ring there, you know,
29:58
getting involved with a match. I mean, it was.
30:01
And of course, you know, Pat and I were booing him, you know?
30:04
Because we do, you know, so it's it was fun, but you know, he was
30:12
out of the UFC thing. He's been out partying and all
30:15
this other stuff. I just, I wonder how much focus
30:18
he's put on film study and everything else.
30:21
And we'll, we'll see. We're going to find out.
30:24
You mentioned maybe I would sniff around the running back
30:27
spot, but Fast forward to Friday and you look at it, it's
30:30
different. There's only one portal window.
30:32
So there's going to be even more guys that are going to be
30:34
involved. How much work has Tyler Barnes
30:36
and the rest of the staff? How much is done?
30:38
I mean, do you anticipate that we're going to get right away on
30:41
that Friday, this Friday a handful of guys that are going
30:43
to be committing to Iowa? Is it going to be a longer
30:45
process, Take us in a little bit because it is different the way
30:49
that the portal is going to look this season.
30:51
Yeah, I, I, it is because that, you know, I, I, I kind of had a
30:57
little bit of a conversation with Tyler and he, he just said
30:59
it's going to be a wild first five days of this portal and I
31:03
have this wild Is this ever going to be?
31:05
So I I think you'll look for that, but it's just going to be
31:11
this kind of a fever pitch. And but there's been
31:15
conversations going on at every school with people who are in
31:19
Tyler's position, like the general manager or whatever
31:22
they're calling it for their school.
31:25
And between those folks and agents for players, those things
31:29
are. Going up all time and they've
31:31
been going on all the time for about a month and so there's
31:36
some. Kind of quote UN quote
31:38
agreements probably that have been made with people.
31:41
I one thing I don't sense is going to happen as guys are
31:44
going to take a lot of visits. I think guys are just going to
31:47
have it's going to be like NFL free agency.
31:49
We're like the bell rings and hey, we're signing here.
31:53
We're signing here and you're going to get all those graphics
31:55
with I love my time here. Going into the portal kind of
32:01
thing and you're going to get all those, all those things.
32:05
It's going to be crazy for for probably about four or five
32:09
days. Yeah, fascinating times that
32:12
we're that we're navigating, navigating our way through when
32:15
it comes to this. So how do you what's the key to
32:17
the game, Tom, once we get to Wednesday morning?
32:21
I'm with you on Pavi. I I think that his mind is a
32:24
whole lot of places other than, you know, between the white
32:26
lines. We'll see.
32:27
He's a hell of a player, obviously, but it doesn't seem
32:30
like he's taking this maybe as seriously as some of the
32:33
Hawkeyes are. Keys to the game.
32:35
What, Tom? Containing Papia and and
32:39
tackling as you guys know, Iowa's have struggles tackling
32:43
this year. They just have, they haven't
32:44
tackled great at different points.
32:46
It got better midpoint and but I thought it kind of slacked off a
32:51
little bit later in the year again.
32:53
So they've got to tackle well and they've got to make some
32:56
plays. I look for Gronowski to to, you
33:00
know, the thing I come back to with Gronowski and I kind of
33:03
brought it up to him the other day was that he was the Heisman
33:08
of the FCS level, you know, and he's going to go up against the
33:11
runner up to the Heisman. I think Gronowski feels like
33:14
he's probably got something to prove in this game.
33:16
Hey, I'm a running quarterback too.
33:18
And I also, you know, I won the FCS Heisman.
33:22
I'm a pretty good player. And I think he's probably got a
33:25
little bit of a chip on his shoulder coming into this game
33:27
that maybe people should focus on him a little bit too.
33:31
How's Kurt been this week going through another Outback Bowl?
33:34
You've been there for them all, Dolph's been there for them all,
33:36
and that's about it. How's Kurt been?
33:39
Any Mellie Collin yet? Anything to read in?
33:41
Just kind of looking forward, obviously for a guy that's 70
33:44
years old. So, so yesterday it was over and
33:48
I taped a really good podcast I'd encourage people to listen
33:51
to with Dolphin Pad over, went over to their hotel and just
33:56
hung out for about about an hour.
33:57
And I was walking out and I looked over in the bar area and
34:02
there's Kirk drinking a draft beer with Tyler Barnes and
34:05
George Barnett. So, you know, and waved over and
34:08
waved at him. They waved at me and went over,
34:09
said hello. And I think he's having a fun
34:12
time. I think he's having a good time.
34:14
He's pretty relaxed, but he's also, you know, focused on
34:19
winning. I mean, he takes these things
34:21
seriously too. That's The thing is, you know, a
34:24
lot of these places, you know, I know, silly what's going on with
34:29
some of the bowl games with all these people opting out and
34:31
everything. I get the sense both these
34:34
teams, for the most part, I don't know about Pavia and, you
34:37
know, the tight ends probably sitting out.
34:39
I mean, he's down here, but he hasn't he hasn't practiced.
34:42
I mean, he's not playing, but I think both these teams are
34:48
pretty serious about playing in this game and that's what makes
34:50
this game interesting, I think. And the Big 10's unbeaten, what
34:53
are they five? And oh, I think since if you
34:55
include the playoff win, so off to a terrific start.
34:58
Good stuff. So Tom, when do you get home?
35:00
You'll be home to on Friday to follow all the recruiting.
35:04
It's are there not the recruiting, the portal being
35:06
open and the transfer window wide open.
35:08
We'll be back. Friday, yeah, yeah, I'm, we're
35:11
headed back to the next morning. Yeah, headed back 7:30 AM flight
35:17
on New Year's Day. So and get back and got a UCLA
35:21
Iowa basketball game coming up too.
35:23
Absolutely do good stuff, Tom. Well, we'll impose on you again
35:27
Friday. Thanks for doing this.
35:28
Appreciate it as always, hotkeyereport.com, part of On
35:31
Three Media. Thank you, Tom Keikart.
35:33
Thanks guys. Yep.
35:34
See, buddy, good to hear from you, Tom Keikart as we catch up
35:37
with Tom down in Florida and he backed it up.
35:40
It's going to be so 12 O1 can use it's Friday.
35:44
Yeah, absolutely. So we'll wake up to news, in all
35:46
likelihood. I have a feeling, yeah.
35:48
We do in the NFLI. Would be surprised if we don't
35:50
hear. There's going to be a lot that
35:51
is going to be happening. And then you got the weekend,
35:54
which is always kind of a weird time, but I thought it was
35:56
interesting too, Tom mentioning not a whole lot of visits.
36:00
I don't think there will be. Like you imagine, I I know it's
36:04
different, but just all right, I'm gonna go here.
36:07
I've never even visited the place.
36:08
Unless you're an upper echelon where where teams or schools
36:11
will wait for you. Yes, right.
36:13
But if you're. Kind of like some of these.
36:16
You know you're going to be a death piece, you're going to be
36:17
fighting, right? Maybe for a starting role?
36:19
If you if you get that opportunity, you take it.
36:22
Yeah, because if you don't take it, they're going to make up the
36:24
next on the list and so on. We'll take a time out.
36:27
Come back, finish hour number one, David Kaplan off to Chicago
36:30
to kick off our number 2 Centurion Stone of Iowa sponsors
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Cappy Miller and Condon talking sports with you on Des Moines
36:36
Sports Station One O 6.3 KXNO. I'm Hillary Condon, final couple
36:41
of minutes of our first hour of our program.
36:43
David Kaplan, more on the Bears last night and the Niners.
36:47
What's next for the Bears? There's some baseball with Kapi
36:49
as well. Bill Seals on Iowa State,
36:52
cyclonereport.com. He joins us at 1:30.
36:57
State will play their final tune up before Big 12 play Friday
37:00
night. How about that?
37:00
A Friday night game, West Virginia, 8:00 tip on the deuce.
37:04
All right, we'll do more on this tomorrow, but we've only got a
37:06
couple of minutes left. But I don't know about you and
37:09
but I think I speak for you and maybe most of the NFL fans out
37:13
there that we're about to embark on the final week of the regular
37:17
season. This is the most wide open
37:19
playoffs I think I've ever at least.
37:23
Right or wrong, I've had an opinion as who's going to play
37:26
for the Super Bowl. Maybe not both teams, but I but
37:30
this team's definitely going to play for the Super Bowl.
37:32
I have no clue in both conferences.
37:36
All the teams have warts. Yes, all the teams have
37:39
significant, maybe short of the Rams significant things that you
37:43
point to and say, but. The Rams are going to have to do
37:45
it on the road. And that's the one that you
37:47
throw in for them. As a totality of a team, though,
37:49
each one of these teams have pretty gaping holes.
37:52
I mean, 49ers, a defense that we saw the Bears have done it
37:56
inexplicably, six wins in the final two trailing in the final
37:59
two minutes. Again, that that just doesn't
38:00
happen. You go on and on through the
38:02
seats, the Bills and now. Chargers, Speaking of the Bills.
38:08
Did you see people killing the bills for going for two?
38:10
Trent, I couldn't understand it. Josh Allen makes that throat 99
38:13
out of 100 times. And he's hurt and you, you want
38:17
to go to overtime and he's hurt with nothing in the balance,
38:20
nothing that matters. No, you go for two in that
38:24
situation. I couldn't agree with you more,
38:26
but you know what? It's the he didn't make it must
38:28
been the bad call. If it would have made it, they
38:30
would have all loved it. I had no problem with that.
38:32
In fact, I was glad they did. Absolutely.
38:34
It made a ton of that's what you do with that situation.
38:37
I know it's a different era. I know there's a lot of people
38:40
that still cling to old school thinking and football.
38:43
That can't be 1. Of them, no, I'm with.
38:45
You you saw Josh Allen and the way that he was.
38:47
Oh my God, what a baller. And that what an opportunity he
38:49
has. Yet he's banged up.
38:51
They're going to have to go on the road likely for all three
38:53
games I do. Think who's going to win on
38:55
Sunday night? Baltimore Steelers.
38:57
And here's where I say I think the Baltimore's going to win.
38:59
If you're a Steelers fan, aren't you apoplectic what DBK Metcalf
39:03
has done to your franchise? Oh yeah, you've got Adam Thielen
39:05
out there on the field trying to win.
39:07
You Or Marquez Valkez, what's his name?
39:09
Marcus Vandis, FVS, that's your guys.
39:14
That's who they threw 2 up 4th. Down Oh my God and 3rd.
39:16
Down. That's right.
39:17
Unbelievable. I.
39:20
Who would you rather have, Snoop Hundley as we see him now, or
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banged up Lamar? Hunley was really good.
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I don't think it's particularly close and in fact, I think I'd
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feel more confident if we got the right now Harbaugh comes out
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and says our quarterback going forward is going to be Snoop
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Hunley. I think I would be more
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confident with the Ravens being able to do something and
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they're. Going to get a home game if they
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win. Because Lamar looks terrible
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when he's come back. He has not look like Lamar
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Jackson. What separates him is his legs.
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We can't use him. He's got a bad hamstring.
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He can't use them. I say go that direction and it
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when I thought of this, it reminded me of Jeff Hostetler.
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Jeff Hostetler, Phil Simms will he won't he?
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Is he going to be coming back and parcel?
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Looks what happened. No, Hostetler's our guy.
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He's going to be our guy and it doesn't matter.
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Phil Simms is healthy. This is the direction we're
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going to go for the here and now long term, obviously, Lamar.
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Folks out there may remember Drew Bledsoe, Tom Brady.
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There's another one, and the right decision was made.
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I'm Harbaugh. I'm saying that now.
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Well, and here's the thing, I mean, if you win the football
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game, you know the reward. Here comes the Texas defense.
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Have fun. Hour 2, David Kaplan kicks it
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off. Bill steals on Iowa State, Mr.
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Monday night, we'll wrap things up.
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He'll do so about 10 minutes before, too.
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Miller and Condon an hour ago. We're glad you're with us as we
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make our way through a Monday on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.