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- 0:00S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond. It's Carl
- 0:06S1: and crew. Come as you are an experienced guide, overcome
- 0:10S1: what seems impossible and live as you never imagined delivering
- 0:16S1: the truth daily.
- 0:17S2: If it were possible to have every worldly gain available
- 0:21S2: and you're forfeiting your soul, there's no amount of gain
- 0:25S2: that would make it worth it.
- 0:26S3: Our own way never ever works. Because it's apart from
- 0:29S3: the life source, which is God.
- 0:32S4: For me, growing up, love was always conditional and can
- 0:36S4: be taken from you. Christ's love can't. And he went
- 0:39S4: to the cross with my mind and my heart that night.
- 0:44S1: Now, from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
- 0:48S1: and crew. Hard to believe there's just one more day here.
- 0:51S1: But here we are.
- 0:52S4: Super day. It went so fast. I know excitement and tremendous.
- 0:58S1: We're hearing great words. I talked to a lot of
- 1:01S1: people on campus yesterday, and the amount of excitement over
- 1:05S1: what God is doing in hearts is really thrilling. And
- 1:08S1: people from all around the world.
- 1:14S2: The.
- 1:14S4: World, exactly. The globe. I mean, amazing people have traveled in.
- 1:17S4: It's just beautiful, I think.
- 1:20S1: So let me go through some of them. Papua New Guinea, Virginia, Florida, uh, Cleveland, Tennessee, um,
- 1:29S1: New York.
- 1:30S4: Spokane.
- 1:31S1: Spokane. Now, what I'm mentioning right there are that's just
- 1:36S1: the tour groups that came through our radio studio yesterday,
- 1:40S1: and they'll have tour groups again today. In fact, I
- 1:42S1: need to get all those states written down before we
- 1:46S1: get in a distant past memory here, because that that
- 1:51S1: was just absolutely awesome, wasn't it?
- 1:54S4: It was heartwarming. And like you said, it was just
- 1:56S4: the groups coming through. Could you imagine the entire auditorium? Yeah.
- 2:00S4: Oh my.
- 2:00S1: Goodness. Yeah, it's it's astounding. So what? What a thrill.
- 2:05S1: What a thrill. And we're going to have some clips
- 2:08S1: here in a little bit. But it's not too late
- 2:11S1: today at 9:30 a.m.. If you've not taken in any
- 2:16S1: of Founder's Week, we're going to be starting in earnest again.
- 2:19S1: 9:30 a.m. central time, I should say. Uh, we're going
- 2:23S1: to be starting in earnest again. So really, uh, get
- 2:27S1: this link because you can watch it live. All the
- 2:30S1: sessions from your phone, from your laptop, from your iPad,
- 2:34S1: you name it. You can have it all right there.
- 2:37S4: And if you think you've missed some of the past days,
- 2:39S4: they will all have that past audio up as well.
- 2:42S4: So you really do want to get this link. It's
- 2:45S4: just text the word founders and we'll send it to you.
- 2:47S4: We'll get you all set up. Text the word founders
- 2:50S4: to 805 five, five, 78, 98. That's founders to 805 557898. Yes,
- 2:59S4: both past audio and what's coming up even for today?
- 3:02S1: Yeah. Thrilling, man. And it was fun to have a
- 3:05S1: studio audience yesterday. That was a that was a great joy.
- 3:10S1: And the joy for me was the quality of these people.
- 3:15S1: They are just rich in faith.
- 3:17S4: Some just teary eyed, emotional to be here, to be
- 3:21S4: part of it, to be part of Founders Week, what
- 3:23S4: they were hearing, what they were looking forward to. I mean,
- 3:26S4: they really prayed and came through into this Founders Week
- 3:29S4: with open hearts. It was just wonderful.
- 3:31S1: Yeah, it's it's absolutely beautiful. So be sure to get
- 3:34S1: this link. Boom. Crew founders is the word founders text
- 3:39S1: that word to 805 5578, 981 word founders to 800 555, 78, 98.
- 3:49S1: Everything you need is going to be right there. It's,
- 3:53S1: I think, one of the most thrilling things about Founder's Week,
- 3:58S1: or any event kind of like this, is that you
- 4:02S1: get this high density of people that are all in it.
- 4:06S1: If you know what I mean.
- 4:07S4: Oh, all in deep end and all committed highly. Yes.
- 4:11S1: It's just, it's just a beautiful thing to watch. So
- 4:14S1: you can be a part wherever you are and take
- 4:17S1: it in. I think you'll get a sense of what
- 4:18S1: God's doing here. So be sure to get that link,
- 4:21S1: log in and get ready to roll a little heads up.
- 4:25S1: November 14th. We're going to start taking registrations next week,
- 4:30S1: but I'm really thrilled, man. The Unstoppable Gospel conference we're
- 4:34S1: going to be talking about just some of the heartache
- 4:39S1: for some of you. Maybe you got a wayward kid
- 4:42S1: or 2 or 3 or more. When we've opened up
- 4:45S1: phone lines here, it's been it's.
- 4:47S4: Been a big topic.
- 4:48S1: It's been a big topic. Every time we open up
- 4:51S1: phone lines and put in the first name of your kid.
- 4:53S1: That's far from God. You want them to come home.
- 4:57S1: The amount of names that come in here. Super day.
- 5:00S4: It's just so hard to fathom. I mean, it just
- 5:02S4: scrolls through your heart. Just pains for that. So I'm
- 5:04S4: so glad you're doing that. Yeah, I'm addressing that.
- 5:07S1: Yeah. And in the third session on November 14th, just
- 5:10S1: put a pin in it. We'll have the registration for
- 5:12S1: you next week. But on the third session, seven surprising
- 5:16S1: ways God saves those we love. And this is going
- 5:20S1: to give you things that you can act on in
- 5:22S1: the power of the Holy Spirit that might surprise you.
- 5:26S1: So we're going to have just an incredible time. There's
- 5:28S1: some of you listening. And very candidly, because of the
- 5:33S1: number of stand blogs that we've had that have gone out,
- 5:38S1: nine ways to Know you stand with God and he
- 5:40S1: stands with you. You've had great question marks about this,
- 5:43S1: and that is, why doesn't the Christian faith work for me?
- 5:47S1: Why does it not work? And there's a lot of
- 5:51S1: you that wonder why is the abundant life elusive for me?
- 5:56S1: And in many cases it is a cultural Christianity. It's
- 6:00S1: a churchianity. It has become very. It's an interesting gig.
- 6:07S1: You can keep the gods of this age even hidden
- 6:11S1: from yourself, but still tucked under your arm and claim
- 6:15S1: the name of Jesus and not be born again.
- 6:19S4: Yeah. You know, you did mention that. So I do
- 6:21S4: want to draw attention to is people going, what, what, what,
- 6:23S4: what resource? It's called nine ways to know that you
- 6:27S4: stand with God and that God stands with you. A
- 6:29S4: phenomenal resource that Carl had put together. So if you
- 6:32S4: do text the word stand, we gotcha. So text the
- 6:36S4: word stand to 805 five, five, 78, 98. Uh, and
- 6:41S4: would be the key word for that 805 557898.
- 6:45S1: Yeah. Yeah. Good stuff guys. So, um, yeah, just put
- 6:49S1: a pin in it for November 14th. 8:30 a.m. till
- 6:52S1: 12:30 p.m. central time. And we'll give you details starting
- 6:56S1: next week for that. Nice. Yeah. Guys, I got to
- 7:00S1: tell you, God is good.
- 7:01S5: It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
- 7:05S1: By the way. I just heard it. Uh, this this
- 7:08S1: is the time for planning, and I haven't pitched it
- 7:10S1: this way to you, but this is a fun idea.
- 7:13S1: We've got a cruise coming up next June, and Michael
- 7:16S1: Riedel and myself and Micah Tyler is going to be
- 7:19S1: leading worship. No, but it's the inside passage out of Seattle,
- 7:24S1: and it's going to be an incredible week long cruise.
- 7:26S1: It's going to be one of the most breathtaking experiences
- 7:29S1: you've ever had, and we're going to be breaking open
- 7:33S1: the word. And you put together not only being in
- 7:37S1: the Word of God, but being in God's creation like that.
- 7:41S1: And you got a lethal combination. So this is what
- 7:43S1: I want you to think about. Think about some of
- 7:47S1: you need to really think about saving your shekels and
- 7:53S1: making this a Christmas gift to each other. Yeah, it's.
- 7:59S4: Nice.
- 8:00S1: If you're married or making it a Christmas gift to
- 8:02S1: yourself if you're a single adult.
- 8:04S4: True for parents.
- 8:05S1: Yeah.
- 8:06S4: Yeah.
- 8:06S1: I mean, this is something you can get your parents
- 8:09S1: on to.
- 8:11S4: Absolutely.
- 8:12S1: Maybe they would be absolutely blown away by that. But
- 8:16S1: whatever the case, it's a golden opportunity. So think about it.
- 8:22S1: Text Cruz to 800 550 578, 98. That would be
- 8:27S1: a fun Christmas gift to open up, wouldn't it?
- 8:29S4: It would. Then I'm thinking like adult children say, hey,
- 8:31S4: we'll take the kids. You guys go get refreshed, get renewed.
- 8:35S4: Come on.
- 8:36S1: Yeah, this is this is really cool. Text Cruz to
- 8:40S1: 800 555, 78, 98. And we've got many hundreds of
- 8:45S1: you already booked, which is really cool. We can't. I'm
- 8:48S1: just looking so forward to meeting all, all of you
- 8:50S1: who are going to be on this cruise. It's going
- 8:52S1: to be an incredible time. I talked to Michael about
- 8:54S1: this yesterday. He's fired up.
- 8:56S4: Oh he is.
- 8:56S1: Yeah he is fired up.
- 8:58S4: He is pumped.
- 8:59S1: He's really thrilled. So Tex cruise to 805 557898. Now
- 9:06S1: it's time to start thinking about his Christmas gift. And
- 9:09S1: the reason I love this gift is you give it,
- 9:12S1: you get the anticipation of it. And then it the
- 9:16S1: gift drops in June, which is really cool.
- 9:18S4: Exactly. And it comes through and it's like, how exciting. Yeah. Oh, absolutely.
- 9:23S1: It's awesome man. So yeah. Text cruise to 805 five, 578, 98. Well,
- 9:30S1: last night we want to give you some little snippets here.
- 9:34S1: Tony Evans kind of kicking off the final plenary session.
- 9:37S1: Take a listen to this.
- 9:39S6: This is the 100th year of Moody Radio. And some
- 9:44S6: of you may not know this, but during the early
- 9:48S6: days of our ministry, most of the radio stations in
- 9:52S6: America would not accept a African American broadcaster. Moody radio
- 10:00S6: was the first network that opened their doors to me.
- 10:06S6: That allowed me to be on radio. And so over
- 10:18S6: all of these years, you have helped the Word of
- 10:20S6: God to go forth now worldwide under George Sweeting. And
- 10:26S6: I am very grateful for that, beginning with you and the.
- 10:31S6: We find reasons to celebrate.
- 10:35S1: Yeah. What a beautiful word that is.
- 10:38S4: How powerful. I mean, right off the legacy of D.L. Moody.
- 10:41S4: That's what he was about.
- 10:42S1: Yeah, that's exactly what it was about. There's a document
- 10:45S1: in Kroll Hall that speaks to every nation, tribe and
- 10:49S1: tongue can come here.
- 10:50S4: And by the way, the alternative does air weekday nights,
- 10:53S4: 9 p.m. central here on Moody Radio.
- 10:55S1: Yeah, really good stuff. Well, let's get into the meat
- 10:59S1: of it a little bit. Tony was dishing it up,
- 11:01S1: and let's give you a little a little longer taste
- 11:05S1: of what he was dishing up last night. Take a
- 11:07S1: listen to this.
- 11:10S6: This is the 100th year of Moody Radio. I thought
- 11:14S6: we would celebrate by looking at Psalm 100. Because Psalm 100,
- 11:20S6: in this 100th year is a Psalm of celebration. Because
- 11:26S6: our God is worth celebrating. He goes into the first
- 11:31S6: two verses and he makes the call to celebrate. He says,
- 11:36S6: shout joyfully to the Lord, all the earth. Serve the
- 11:40S6: Lord with gladness. come before him with joyful singing. In
- 11:46S6: other words, it's time to celebrate. He says, I want
- 11:50S6: you to shout joyfully to the Lord. In other words,
- 11:54S6: I want your voices to be heard. This is not
- 11:58S6: time for a quiet, private celebration, although there are times
- 12:02S6: for that. He says, I'm calling you to a public
- 12:06S6: display and everybody ought to hear it. He says, I
- 12:11S6: want you to shout joyfully to the Lord. Now the
- 12:15S6: reason why you ought to shout and you ought to
- 12:18S6: get excited about God is because he is worthy to
- 12:24S6: be celebrated. He is worthy for you to shout about.
- 12:30S6: If you've not shouted about God lately, you haven't celebrated
- 12:34S6: God fully. Because until your worship becomes a shout, You're
- 12:40S6: not finished worshipping yet. He says, I want you to
- 12:44S6: shout to the Lord. You know, back in the day
- 12:47S6: when we ran across people that had accomplished a lot
- 12:50S6: when I was growing up, we would say something like,
- 12:54S6: that dude is heavy. In other words, that athlete or
- 12:57S6: that intellect had some juice on them. They had some
- 13:00S6: weight on them and we would say that person was heavy.
- 13:04S6: Then we graduated to he or she was awesome. We
- 13:09S6: went from heavy to awesome. Then we move from heavy
- 13:13S6: to that dude is bad. That means good for your
- 13:16S6: white folk who don't know that that dude is bad.
- 13:20S6: We went from heavy to awesome. Too bad. Then we
- 13:24S6: graduated from bad to beast. We went from the person
- 13:29S6: being heavy to them being awesome, to them being bad,
- 13:33S6: to them being a beast. That means that they are
- 13:36S6: operating at a whole nother level. Then we graduated from
- 13:40S6: beast to being a goat, the greatest of all times.
- 13:43S6: So we went from heavy to awesome to bad, to beast,
- 13:49S6: to goat. In other words, you have reached the top
- 13:53S6: of the pyramid when you become the goat. Well, the
- 13:57S6: reason why you ought to shout about God is that
- 14:02S6: he's all that and a bag of chips. He's the goat.
- 14:06S6: And when you run across the goat. Now, the reason
- 14:11S6: why God is the goat the greatest of all times.
- 14:15S6: If he was looking for somebody greater, he'd have to
- 14:18S6: come back to himself because he couldn't find what he
- 14:21S6: was looking for, because he's in a class all by himself.
- 14:25S6: And when you think about a God like that, it
- 14:29S6: ought to make you want to shout. He says, I
- 14:32S6: want you to shout joyfully to the Lord.
- 14:40S1: I have always believed that Psalm 100 is one of
- 14:45S1: the greatest chapters in the Psalm that really describes appropriate
- 14:50S1: response to God in worship. Shout to the Lord!
- 14:55S7: Get to know the team behind the scenes. Follow Carl
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- 15:01S1: Well, there is a party going on here and it's
- 15:04S1: called Founder's Week.
- 15:05S2: Ali, have you heard? Kicked off on Wednesday night and
- 15:09S2: it continues Friday night. It wraps with doctor Rick Nelson
- 15:12S2: is going to be closing us out as the keynote.
- 15:14S2: So many great things already happening but continue today.
- 15:18S1: Oh my goodness. And I got to tell you we're
- 15:20S1: going to have something today that is epic. It's a
- 15:24S1: live taping of Open Line with the man, the myth,
- 15:28S1: the legend, Michael Ray Dylan. Nick, how you doing, doc?
- 15:32S8: I'm doing great. It's great talking with you. Thanks for
- 15:34S8: having me. Yeah. We're going to do a live taping.
- 15:37S8: That means the audience will be there. They're the ones
- 15:40S8: asking the questions. We're going to record it and then
- 15:43S8: air it later on. Open line.
- 15:44S1: Dynamite. We are so looking forward to that.
- 15:47S2: Doctor Michael Riedel Nick, if you're not familiar, professor emeritus
- 15:50S2: of Jewish studies and Bible here at Moody Bible Institute,
- 15:52S2: host of Open Line. Normally you hear Saturday mornings right
- 15:56S2: here on Moody Radio. So this live taping, an opportunity
- 15:59S2: for folks to be in person, asking some questions. I'm
- 16:03S2: curious if you had to categorize some of your most
- 16:06S2: commonly asked questions, maybe as of late, maybe the last
- 16:10S2: couple months, is there a top 2 or 3 that
- 16:13S2: come to mind as far as big buckets that people
- 16:15S2: are wanting to know about?
- 16:16S8: Sure. People often ask about Genesis six, who are the Nephilim,
- 16:21S8: and are these angels or fallen angels that mated with
- 16:26S8: human beings? That is, I think every week we would
- 16:29S8: have that on the air, except we limit the number
- 16:32S8: of times we'll take that question. I don't understand why
- 16:35S8: that's such a popular question, but it sure is. The
- 16:38S8: program is about questions about the Bible, God, and the
- 16:42S8: spiritual life. However, I get a lot of questions about Israel,
- 16:46S8: sometimes hostile questions about Israel. That's true. And I'm not
- 16:50S8: afraid to answer hostile questions. I've been doing that my
- 16:53S8: whole life.
- 16:54S1: Yeah. Michael, what do you attribute the anti-Semitism? The latest
- 16:59S1: stats that we have are 800 to 900% increase of
- 17:04S1: hate attacks. Jewish hatred is what you're calling it now.
- 17:07S1: And I'm hearing that, by the way, more mainstreamed. Yeah, yeah.
- 17:10S1: What do you look, we have talked about this a lot.
- 17:14S1: This is, at the end of the day, the God
- 17:16S1: of this age has blinded the minds of the unbelieving
- 17:18S1: people are not the enemy. Our battle is not against
- 17:21S1: flesh and blood. Oh, sure, there's a warfare. There's warfare
- 17:24S1: going on here, my man. Speak to that.
- 17:26S8: Well, I think it's spiritual warfare. It says in Psalm
- 17:30S8: 83 that those who hate the people of Israel are
- 17:33S8: the Jewish people. Are those who hate the God of Israel?
- 17:36S8: That's the true hatred. Is there opposed to God? They.
- 17:40S8: They are resentful of him choosing this one people group
- 17:44S8: to represent him. And so I think that's where it is.
- 17:47S8: I do think that, you know, some people have said
- 17:50S8: in the past that, you know, this is a new hatred.
- 17:53S8: I don't think it's new. I there was a physician
- 17:57S8: by the name of Arthur Kac, who wrote a book
- 17:59S8: about hatred of the Jewish people. He was a Messianic Jew,
- 18:03S8: and he talked about how hatred of the Jewish people
- 18:06S8: is endemic. That means it's an illness that resides under
- 18:11S8: the surface all the time. And then periodically it explodes
- 18:15S8: in epidemic proportions. And but it's always there. And I,
- 18:19S8: I believe that's what's going on right now, that this
- 18:22S8: was there all along. But because of the war that
- 18:25S8: broke out three years ago, people have used that as
- 18:28S8: an excuse to justify their hatred of Jewish people. And
- 18:33S8: there are all kinds of lies being said about Israel.
- 18:35S8: And so what's happened is what was lying under the
- 18:38S8: surface has come out there. There are famous media people
- 18:42S8: who have come out quite hateful of Jewish people. And
- 18:46S8: people say, oh, he's changed. No, he's not changed. It
- 18:50S8: was always there. Now he just feels the liberty to
- 18:52S8: express the opinion.
- 18:54S1: Yeah, it's both sides of the aisle, so to speak.
- 18:56S1: Coming up here in just a moment. Michael, you know,
- 18:59S1: you and I have spoken a lot for a lot
- 19:01S1: of years, and you were very slow to speak of man.
- 19:04S1: We might be near the end. You say, look, history
- 19:06S1: repeats itself and it does. And I mean, my goodness,
- 19:10S1: the early disciples, when Jesus was going away and he
- 19:13S1: gave them the comforter, the Holy Spirit, they were still thinking.
- 19:17S1: They weren't thinking 2000 years and beyond. But Michael, when
- 19:21S1: we get back, I got a I got a great
- 19:23S1: little article from Chosen People Ministries at my home the
- 19:26S1: other day, and I'm looking through this. I'm going, boy,
- 19:28S1: there are some prophecies that are lining up here. I'm
- 19:31S1: not saying the end is right around the corner, but
- 19:33S1: it is nearing and we're going to pitch you some
- 19:36S1: questions just about prophecy. Okay, what do we see and
- 19:40S1: how close might we be?
- 19:42S2: Make sure you get that link. If you want to
- 19:44S2: take part in the live stream or the live event,
- 19:46S2: the Open Line live taping this afternoon right here at
- 19:50S2: the campus of Moody Bible Institute for Founder's Week. Just
- 19:52S2: text founders to 800 555, 78, 98 founders to 805 five, five, 78, 98.
- 20:00S1: More with Michael Riddell straight ahead.
- 20:03S7: Breaking chains and running free. You're listening to Carl and Crew.
- 20:08S1: Hey, it's Carl and crew, and we've got a special
- 20:10S1: guest with us right now, doctor Michael Ryder, professor emeritus
- 20:14S1: of Jewish Studies and Bible at Moody Bible Institute. And
- 20:18S1: he is going strong. By the way, Michael and I
- 20:20S1: are going to be teaching on a cruise in June
- 20:25S1: of 27 if you have not gotten your ticket. Michael,
- 20:29S1: I don't know that I've done one of these promos
- 20:31S1: with you.
- 20:31S8: No, I don't know if we have. But I'm looking
- 20:33S8: forward to it.
- 20:34S1: Oh, this is tremendous. Be sure to get signed up,
- 20:37S1: look for details and incredible cruise departing Seattle, going through
- 20:42S1: the inside passage of Alaska. And you're going to take
- 20:46S1: in incredible sights. And then we're going to be sharing
- 20:48S1: some sessions, teaching through the Beatitudes. And we are we
- 20:53S1: are really looking forward to this text. The word cruise
- 20:57S1: to 800 555, 7898. Get all the information, get signed up.
- 21:02S1: It is over half filled. And I think we're going
- 21:05S1: to have all 800 seats filled on this thing. 805, five, five, 78, 98.
- 21:12S1: That's going to be a trip of a lifetime, isn't it, friend?
- 21:15S8: For me, I especially am excited about it because I've
- 21:17S8: always wanted to go to. You're from Alaska, but I've
- 21:20S8: never been. I'm really looking forward to.
- 21:22S1: Well, I've never been on the inside passage. I've heard
- 21:24S1: that this is the most sought after cruise of all cruises.
- 21:28S1: So yeah, we're looking forward to it. Well, Michael, I
- 21:32S1: want to talk prophecy. I did get this thing from
- 21:34S1: chosen People, and they had five reasons from the scriptures
- 21:38S1: that they believe the end is drawing nearer. Well, you know,
- 21:41S1: every day we're closer to the return of Christ. What
- 21:45S1: are you seeing that's changed a little bit of your
- 21:48S1: perspective on the times that we live in? Obviously, the
- 21:53S1: Middle East, I had a hunch that we weren't going
- 21:56S1: to take out the mullahs from Iran, mainly because even
- 22:00S1: if we are near the end, those mullahs have to
- 22:02S1: be in full hatred mode toward Israel in order to
- 22:06S1: fulfill prophecy. But what are you seeing, Michael?
- 22:09S8: Well, first of all, the New Testament teaches that we're
- 22:11S8: in the last days since the ascension of the Lord Jesus.
- 22:14S8: We've been in the last days for 2000 years. So
- 22:16S8: when people say, are we in the last days? Yes.
- 22:18S8: And then people say, are we in the day of
- 22:20S8: the Lord? Are we in the tribulation period? Not yet.
- 22:22S8: So the answer is no. So when people say, are
- 22:25S8: we in the last days, I say the answer is yes, no.
- 22:28S8: And then kinda. And the kinda is the part that
- 22:32S8: we're talking about ever since the rebirth of Israel, I
- 22:35S8: think that puts us so much closer because there needed
- 22:38S8: to be a reborn state of Israel for many of
- 22:41S8: the end time events to happen. And that's since 1948.
- 22:44S8: A reborn Israel is a very important factor. A couple
- 22:47S8: other things that I've seen. And of course, this is
- 22:50S8: important to remember. There's always been anti-Semitism. It always explodes
- 22:54S8: at different times. But one of the aspects of the
- 22:57S8: end of days is a great deal of hatred of
- 22:59S8: the Jewish people. And what we're seeing today is once,
- 23:02S8: just like we saw in the 1930s in Europe, we're
- 23:04S8: seeing it again in an epic proportion. And so that says, oh,
- 23:09S8: this could be those days. Of course, it could go
- 23:12S8: away and or become subdued and then come out again later.
- 23:15S8: But that's something that's important. Another factor for me is
- 23:19S8: seeing some things from the book of Ezekiel. This is
- 23:23S8: kind of interesting. The Gog Magog, Gog Magog. Now, people
- 23:28S8: used to think that was Russia. I never thought it
- 23:30S8: was Russia. When you look at that, it's.
- 23:33S1: The stands, right?
- 23:34S8: It's the eastern stands. It's an Islamic invasion of Israel.
- 23:39S8: That's what it looks like. It's the eastern stands of
- 23:41S8: the former Soviet Union, former Islamic republics of the former
- 23:45S8: Soviet Union, and also eastern Turkey. Turkey. When I wrote
- 23:50S8: my book about the Arab-Israeli conflict 20 some years ago,
- 23:54S8: Turkey was still an ally of Israel. Today, it's one
- 23:56S8: of the most hostile nations, and they are listed among
- 23:59S8: those nations that will invade Israel. Also, there's mention of Libya, Persia,
- 24:06S8: which is Iran. So it does look like that is
- 24:09S8: coming closer to fruition. Of course, I never speculate because
- 24:13S8: things could quiet down. Yeah.
- 24:15S1: So that's a lot of dominoes, Michael.
- 24:17S8: Yeah. That's that's important. And also what I think is
- 24:20S8: interesting when you read Ezekiel 38, it leaves out some
- 24:24S8: countries that you would expect from the Persian Gulf, from
- 24:28S8: the the Gulf states which have become part of.
- 24:31S1: The Abraham Accords.
- 24:32S8: The Abraham Accords. And so they're not they don't take
- 24:34S8: part in the the Islamic invasion. I find that interesting.
- 24:38S8: So there are some factors that you see Turkey becoming
- 24:41S8: a rabid enemy of Israel, seeing Persia growing in their
- 24:45S8: enmity of Israel and this growing Islamic hatred of Israel
- 24:50S8: that's there too. And so I think that's another factor
- 24:52S8: that tells me, yeah, this could happen. We could be
- 24:55S8: closer than ever. But again, I never want to speculate.
- 24:58S8: I think we need to be faithful every day to
- 25:01S8: the Lord, as if he's going to return, but keep
- 25:04S8: working and serving him as if he's not.
- 25:07S1: We can get excited about it, can't we, Ali? I mean, I'm,
- 25:10S1: I am genuinely excited. Maybe call me getting old, but
- 25:14S1: I'm genuinely excited about the return of our Lord, I am.
- 25:17S1: I genuinely am I'm excited.
- 25:20S2: Doctor, do you think that's the attitude that most people have?
- 25:23S2: I mean, Carl expresses being genuinely excited about the return
- 25:26S2: of the Lord for for a lot of people, including
- 25:29S2: very sincere Christians. The mystery, the uncertainty of kind of
- 25:33S2: the timing can bring some fear and a little bit
- 25:36S2: of anxiety. What do you say to that?
- 25:38S8: I think that there's always a little bit of anxiety,
- 25:41S8: but here's what I see. It's kind of interesting. Periodically
- 25:44S8: there are books that come out late, great planet earth
- 25:46S8: in the 70s and in the 90s, the Left Behind series.
- 25:50S8: And people become anticipatory. They get excited about the rapture,
- 25:54S8: and they're looking for the Lord's return. And then it
- 25:57S8: doesn't happen. And so now, 30 years after Left behind,
- 26:01S8: what are people doing? They're becoming cynical about it and
- 26:06S8: they're saying, oh, you know, these people who are prophecy geeks,
- 26:09S8: they're they're finding things that aren't there. That's part of
- 26:13S8: what the scriptures teach is that it's going to happen
- 26:15S8: when we least expect it. And so those of us
- 26:18S8: who love the Lord, what we need to do is
- 26:20S8: expect it every day. Yeah. Say even so, come, Lord Jesus,
- 26:23S8: look for that rapture every day, but remain faithful whether
- 26:26S8: he returns or not. You know, what we're going to
- 26:30S8: do is serve him every day. And I think that's
- 26:32S8: I call it Matthew 25. That's what I point to
- 26:35S8: the parable where they they bury their wealth that the
- 26:39S8: or the what the Lord has given them, and they
- 26:41S8: don't increase it. There are some who do increase it.
- 26:44S8: I call that the Mister Rogers principle. Think of something
- 26:47S8: to do while you're waiting for the Lord to return.
- 26:50S8: Mister Rogers used to saying, think of something to do
- 26:52S8: while you're waiting. We have to think to serve him
- 26:54S8: every day while we're waiting. Looking for his return every day.
- 26:57S2: Doctor Michael Riddick, our guest this morning, I want to
- 27:00S2: remind you of this special open line live taping this afternoon,
- 27:04S2: 4:15 p.m. Central time. You can get here in person.
- 27:08S2: You can ask a question or you can watch the
- 27:11S2: live stream. Just text founders to 800 555, 78, 7898
- 27:16S2: founders to 805. 5578.
- 27:19S7: 98 a basketball mom who's mastered the dad joke. Ali
- 27:25S7: is in the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
- 27:29S1: It's Carl and crew on this Freedom Friday. You know,
- 27:32S1: I want to quickly, uh, take a look at second Corinthians.
- 27:36S1: And there's someone here that needs this today. And if
- 27:39S1: it's just one that is dynamite, I'm sure there's more.
- 27:43S1: We find this call in second Corinthians seven. Since we
- 27:47S1: have these promises, these promises of a relationship with Jesus Christ. Beloved,
- 27:52S1: let us cleanse ourselves from every defilement of body and spirit,
- 27:56S1: bringing holiness to completion in the fear of God. Now,
- 28:02S1: for some of you that could feel super encouraging for me,
- 28:07S1: it does. It's like, no. Jesus Christ has breathed life
- 28:12S1: into me. So then the call is to walk in
- 28:15S1: the power of the Holy Spirit, to cleanse ourselves from
- 28:18S1: every defilement of body and spirit, bringing holiness to completion
- 28:22S1: in the fear of God. So we walk in agreement
- 28:25S1: with the Spirit of God to get to live out
- 28:29S1: this reconciliation that he's done. Now, here's the struggle. Some
- 28:33S1: of you have wondered, why is Christianity as I know
- 28:37S1: it so. Tiresome, so impossible. If you were really honest
- 28:46S1: with yourself, you'd have to say, Carl, the abundant life
- 28:51S1: feels elusive. You try to measure it through like moments
- 28:55S1: of happiness. Uh, little moments of maybe percolating elation and
- 29:02S1: hope springing up, but it soon goes out. There's a
- 29:07S1: reason for that. And the reason is this. There's a
- 29:12S1: big difference from knowing about God to being reconciled with God.
- 29:20S1: Let me be very clear with you right now. We
- 29:22S1: have been given those of us that are born again
- 29:25S1: a minister, ministry of reconciliation. Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ,
- 29:30S1: making his appeal through us. We implore you on behalf
- 29:33S1: of Christ, be reconciled to God. For our sake he
- 29:41S1: made him to be sin. That's Jesus who knew no sin,
- 29:45S1: so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
- 29:50S1: So here's the tough news. There are millions of people
- 29:54S1: in America who consider themselves Christians and are anything but.
- 30:01S1: Because to become a born again Christ follower, you have
- 30:07S1: to be reconciled to God. And here's what this means.
- 30:10S1: You are totally estranged from God and you are born
- 30:15S1: that way. Some of you have thought, well, I was,
- 30:17S1: I was, you know, as long as I can remember,
- 30:21S1: I've been in, you know, in Christ. No, that's that's
- 30:24S1: not that's not the way the born again experience happens.
- 30:30S1: Nicodemus came to Jesus and he goes, how do I
- 30:32S1: get this life? And Jesus said, you must be born again.
- 30:37S1: And it'll manifest in something so strong that you will
- 30:40S1: be able to say, I'm a new creation. The old
- 30:45S1: is gone, the new has come. Second Corinthians five, verse 17.
- 30:52S1: So what is the problem? Everyone is born with their
- 30:56S1: backs to God and they are estranged from the father.
- 31:03S1: Jesus Christ, who knew no sin, became sin and died
- 31:07S1: on the cross. His shed blood made a way for
- 31:12S1: you to have a relationship with Jesus Christ. So just
- 31:17S1: to get rid of all this idea that I'm I'm
- 31:20S1: religiously active. I go to church. I was raised in
- 31:24S1: a Christian home. There's no coattail religion in authentic Christianity. None.
- 31:33S1: It's all about you standing before God in answering this question.
- 31:38S1: Have you allowed the shed blood of a. Of Jesus
- 31:43S1: Christ to be the atoning sacrifice for your sin? Have
- 31:51S1: you allowed Jesus to restore you to relationship with God
- 31:56S1: that he intended to have with you? And how does
- 32:00S1: this happen? By admitting to God I'm a sinner, I
- 32:05S1: need Jesus. This is so much more than cultural Christianity.
- 32:10S1: I need a Savior who can wash away my sin. Because, friend,
- 32:16S1: the reason that the abundant life in Christ is so
- 32:19S1: elusive for so many of you today. You have a
- 32:22S1: cultural Christianity. But when you get to the end, you're
- 32:27S1: going to hear I never knew you. And you can say,
- 32:30S1: all day long I attended brand X church. I did
- 32:35S1: these things. I was spiritually active here and there. I
- 32:40S1: was involved, I was a small group leader. I was
- 32:43S1: an elder. I was a member of a church. And
- 32:46S1: he's going to say, you were never a member of
- 32:49S1: my family. I don't know you. The only way to
- 32:56S1: salvation is not lifting a hand in the air. That
- 32:59S1: could signify what needs to be going on, but it
- 33:02S1: may not at all. It's not even walking an aisle.
- 33:07S1: It's surrendering all you are to Jesus, giving your life
- 33:12S1: to him totally and completely full surrender. There's no salvation
- 33:19S1: apart from lordship. How do I know this? Some have
- 33:22S1: have the notion. Well, I can pray this prayer. No.
- 33:25S1: If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, meaning
- 33:29S1: he is the highest, greatest authority in my life, I am.
- 33:36S1: I'm no longer going to do this. Add Jesus on he.
- 33:42S1: He is everything to me. I'm ordering my finances, my time,
- 33:47S1: everything in my life to him. I'm surrendering all I
- 33:51S1: am to him. Only then are you fit for the
- 33:53S1: kingdom of God. You say, what do I bring? Surrender.
- 33:59S1: Full surrender of everything that you are. But count the cost.
- 34:03S1: You can't say to God, oh yeah, you got my
- 34:06S1: 401 K. You got mine, by the way. Does he
- 34:09S1: want it? Yeah. Is he going to take it? Probably not.
- 34:12S1: But does he want you to make everything available to him?
- 34:16S1: Your dreams, your aspirations, your resources, your talent, your time. Everything, friend.
- 34:24S1: This notion of easy believism is utter rubbish. And some
- 34:30S1: of you have been here a long time, and you've
- 34:32S1: never been reconciled to God. Your back is still to him.
- 34:37S1: You're busy being religious. You're busy trying to do good,
- 34:42S1: but you're lost as can be. And today is your
- 34:46S1: day of salvation. On this Freedom Friday, I'm asking you,
- 34:49S1: is the Spirit of God convicting you that you're a sinner?
- 34:52S1: You need a Savior, and you've never surrendered all you
- 34:55S1: are to Jesus. If today is that day. Praise be
- 34:58S1: to God.
- 34:59S4: Yeah.
- 35:02S1: So it's like this, you say, Carl? Well, what do
- 35:04S1: I do? Well, blessed are the poor in spirit, for
- 35:07S1: theirs is the kingdom of heaven. And if you're spiritually
- 35:10S1: bankrupt this morning and you realize I'm not reconciled with God,
- 35:15S1: my back has been to him. I've been doing things
- 35:18S1: to try to do this in the name of Jesus,
- 35:22S1: but I've never had the embrace of Jesus who says,
- 35:27S1: come to me, all who are weary, busy doing religious
- 35:31S1: stuff and heavy laden, and you got the weight of
- 35:34S1: sin on your shoulders and you'll find rest. But today's
- 35:40S1: the day. What is it? Carl, I'll tell you what
- 35:45S1: it is. It's just crying out to God. God, I'm
- 35:48S1: a sinner. I've not been reconciled with you. I've been
- 35:51S1: walking a broad path, thinking I can add Jesus to
- 35:53S1: my life, and I admit I can't. And you're just
- 35:59S1: saying I'm done. I realized today I'm faking it. I've
- 36:06S1: been trying to fool myself, and some of you have
- 36:10S1: been better at fooling yourself. Than you've ever imagined. But today,
- 36:19S1: the blinders are coming down. And you see that you
- 36:22S1: are ready to be what Paul calls you. A fool
- 36:25S1: for Christ. Despised by some, but loved by God. And
- 36:35S1: if that's you right now, the cry of your soul
- 36:37S1: is I'm a sinner. I need a Savior. His name
- 36:40S1: is Jesus. I'm turning around. I've had my back to God.
- 36:43S1: I've repent but count the cost. I leave everything that
- 36:48S1: I've aspired to achieved. All the image that I've been
- 36:52S1: trying to protect. I'm laying it all on that broad
- 36:55S1: path and I'm turning around. I'm leaving it behind. And
- 37:00S1: I'm giving Jesus with my mouth and say it right
- 37:03S1: now you are Lord. You are my supreme authority for
- 37:08S1: the first time in my life. And if that's you,
- 37:13S1: I want you right now to take a resource I'm
- 37:16S1: going to send you that's going to help you in
- 37:18S1: your first steps with Jesus. And I want you to
- 37:20S1: follow this link and use it. I'm asking you to
- 37:22S1: use every portion of this link. We're going to send you.
- 37:25S1: The ball's in your court, but if you're born again,
- 37:28S1: there's going to be a motivation to say, whatever you've got,
- 37:31S1: I want it. If that's the cry of your soul today,
- 37:35S1: just text new right now. New one word new to
- 37:38S1: 805 five, five, 78, 98. Right now. Get to the
- 37:44S1: side of the road. Grab that phone. Today is a
- 37:47S1: brand new day. Today is your Freedom Friday. Friend text
- 37:51S1: new to 805 557898. Eternity is at stake. What does
- 37:58S1: it profit a man or a woman to gain the
- 38:00S1: whole world and lose their soul? You know what the
- 38:02S1: answer is? Nothing. But today, the Spirit of God is
- 38:09S1: calling you out of the dark, out of the shadows,
- 38:13S1: off that broad path that leads to destruction. You're finally
- 38:17S1: getting honest with yourself, and you see what God has
- 38:21S1: seen before you were born, that you need a Savior.
- 38:27S1: Text new right now. Wherever you are, you must be
- 38:32S1: born again. Stop playing games with God and stop playing
- 38:37S1: games with yourself. Swallow your pride. Pride caused Satan to fall.
- 38:44S1: Pride will keep you on a broad path that leads
- 38:47S1: to death. If today you're confessing with your mouth. Jesus
- 38:55S1: is my Lord. He is the supreme leader of my
- 38:58S1: life and I repent and I turn everything. I am
- 39:02S1: over to him and I'm no longer playing games. Text
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- 39:11S1: Text new to 805 557898. Right now, wherever you are
- 39:18S1: today is your freedom Friday.
- 39:21S7: Your shot of hope to help you through the day.
- 39:24S7: This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
- 39:27S2: Well, if you're old enough to remember, back in the day,
- 39:30S2: there was this ad campaign where the founder and president
- 39:34S2: of the Hair Club for men. Do you remember what
- 39:37S2: he famously said? I know.
- 39:39S4: I don't.
- 39:40S2: I'm sorry. He says, I'm not just the president. I'm
- 39:43S2: also a client. Do you remember this famous ad campaign?
- 39:47S2: And it was brilliant because you thought, oh, this guy
- 39:51S2: doesn't just lead the company. He actually uses the product.
- 39:54S2: So Founders Week, that brings me to Founders Week. Funny
- 39:57S2: set up for it. I know we've got a guy here.
- 40:00S2: He's not just speaking at Founders Week this year. He's
- 40:03S2: actually attended, I don't know. Steve DeWitt, how do you
- 40:06S2: feel about that setup? The hair club for men president?
- 40:09S2: I'm not just the founder. I'm a client. Is that
- 40:12S2: a good setup for Founders Week? You're not just a speaker.
- 40:14S2: You've actually been and attended.
- 40:16S9: Well, if you came up with that off the cuff. Ali,
- 40:19S9: that was brilliant.
- 40:21S2: Brilliant.
- 40:22S9: Yes.
- 40:23S2: We'll go with it. We'll go with it. Now. Tell
- 40:25S2: us about your experience attending Founders Week first, before we
- 40:29S2: get to you as a speaker this year.
- 40:31S9: Well, I have attended many Founders weeks and have profited
- 40:35S9: greatly from them. In fact, if you were to say
- 40:38S9: what is the coldest you've ever been in your life,
- 40:41S9: I think the coldest I remember was one night walking
- 40:45S9: from a restaurant to Moody Church for Founders Week. Might
- 40:50S9: have been the coldest I've ever been, no doubt. One
- 40:53S9: reason they moved it to October.
- 40:55S2: And yes, yes. Fun fact. Founders Week used to be
- 40:59S2: in February and it was always the coldest, snowiest week
- 41:03S2: of the year. So you were probably out on one
- 41:06S2: of those evenings.
- 41:07S9: I think I was, but it was always worth it.
- 41:10S9: You know, the, the buzz and the music and just
- 41:14S9: the speakers and the sense of God's blessing. On the
- 41:18S9: gathering for Founders Week. I think it's really one of
- 41:22S9: the most special Christian conferences that is held every year,
- 41:27S9: and I'm delighted to be able to be a part
- 41:29S9: of it this year.
- 41:29S2: Yeah. You're going to be doing one of the morning sessions.
- 41:33S2: Give us a little preview of what the Lord has
- 41:35S2: given you for the Founders Week attendees this year.
- 41:38S9: Well, I am going to speak on the supremacy of
- 41:42S9: Jesus Christ from Colossians 118. It's a powerful passage. A
- 41:48S9: purpose statement for why everything that God has done, why
- 41:52S9: he's done it. And it's so that in everything he,
- 41:55S9: Jesus might have the preeminence. And so it's going to
- 42:01S9: be a kind of a big picture, macro redemptive message
- 42:07S9: that applies to everyday life as well. What is the
- 42:10S9: purpose of my life? Why am I here? What is
- 42:13S9: the purpose of my family, my church, my faith? Walk
- 42:16S9: so that in everything he might have the supremacy. So
- 42:19S9: it's a theme that I treasure. I, I read Jonathan
- 42:24S9: Edwards sermon, the purpose for which God created the world
- 42:27S9: many years ago. And in some ways, this message is
- 42:31S9: a dim reflection of his brilliant sermon. But I think
- 42:35S9: it'll be a blessing. It's one of my most cherished
- 42:38S9: personal theological beliefs, and I hope that personal passion about
- 42:44S9: it comes across in the message. I think it will.
- 42:46S2: Yeah, I'd love to hear more about the personal passion,
- 42:49S2: because when you think about if you slow down long enough,
- 42:53S2: those are the questions that hit all of us. And
- 42:55S2: it's easy to just rush through the day going from
- 42:58S2: one thing to the next, checking things off your to
- 43:00S2: do list, and letting your head hit the pillow at
- 43:02S2: night in exhaustion. And you can go like that for
- 43:06S2: a time. But then something stops you and you're forced
- 43:10S2: to confront those bigger existential type questions. Why am I here?
- 43:15S2: What's the purpose? What's the meaning of all of this?
- 43:17S2: How does that hit you? Personally?
- 43:19S9: I think it's exactly correct. And part of the role
- 43:23S9: of a faithful pastor is to help his people connect
- 43:26S9: the dots between their lives and what God is doing
- 43:30S9: in the world. And I think this is partly what
- 43:33S9: makes Christianity so, you know, so special. I often quote C.S.
- 43:37S9: Lewis my favorite quote from him, it's on the on
- 43:40S9: the tile on the floor of Westminster Abbey that they
- 43:43S9: dedicated to C.S. Lewis. I believe in Christianity like I
- 43:46S9: believe the sun has risen. Not just that I see it,
- 43:49S9: but by it I see everything else. And that kind
- 43:53S9: of redemptive lens through which we read the news and
- 43:58S9: do our daily lives is, I think, partly what enriches
- 44:03S9: the Christian experience is that we see what we're doing
- 44:07S9: as a very small part of the greatest thing that
- 44:11S9: is happening in the universe. And I think it it
- 44:15S9: can certainly bring meaning. And that's true in the good
- 44:19S9: and the suffering and the with the kids and with
- 44:21S9: the cancer and everything else that life brings, that God
- 44:24S9: is working everything to display the glory of Jesus, and
- 44:29S9: that we are part of that blessed plan. I think
- 44:33S9: it's going to be a hopefully a sermon the Lord
- 44:35S9: blesses and uses. I'm going to be praying for that.
- 44:37S2: Yeah. You know, I don't know that we've asked you
- 44:39S2: this before. We've had you on a couple of times,
- 44:41S2: but I'd love to hear just a little bit of
- 44:43S2: your own testimony of how did, how and when did
- 44:46S2: God call you out of darkness? Where you went from,
- 44:49S2: you know, just living life to living life with a
- 44:52S2: real purpose and at peace with God.
- 44:54S9: I'm one of these people blessed to have grown up
- 44:57S9: in a Christian home. I can't remember not knowing John 316.
- 45:02S9: I would say that I was a childhood conversion. You know,
- 45:05S9: even with my own children, to come to faith in
- 45:07S9: Christ and to know him your whole life. I went
- 45:10S9: to college to play basketball. I got hurt, the Lord
- 45:13S9: was working in my heart to point me towards ministry.
- 45:16S9: So I've been a pastor for coming on 35 years.
- 45:20S9: I've been at Bethel Church in Ministries, a senior pastor
- 45:23S9: for 29.
- 45:24S2: Wow.
- 45:24S9: And it's been a joy for me to know the Lord,
- 45:28S9: to serve the Lord, to point people to the gospel
- 45:31S9: of Jesus Christ, and to try to be a faithful
- 45:34S9: follower of him in my own life. So I have
- 45:37S9: much to be thankful for. I'm deeply grateful. And speaking
- 45:41S9: at Founders Week is going to be a highlight, and
- 45:44S9: I'm very much looking forward to it.
- 45:46S2: Yeah. The theme this year, generation to generation, the Unstoppable Gospel,
- 45:51S2: we've been pointing you to this all week because we
- 45:54S2: want to make sure that you take part to the
- 45:56S2: extent that you can. If you can get here, please do.
- 45:58S2: There's still opportunities for you. But if you can't, no worries.
- 46:02S2: We know that it's it's a bit of a drive
- 46:04S2: or a flight for many of you. So just text founders.
- 46:07S2: We'll get you the live stream info. Also, the evening
- 46:10S2: sessions are on radio. Just text founders to 805 five, five, 78,
- 46:15S2: 98 founders to 800 555, 78, 98.
- 46:21S7: Standing on the rock each and every day, you're listening
- 46:25S7: to Carl and crew.
- 46:26S1: One of the great truths that you find in Scripture
- 46:30S1: is that when God initiates toward us, not us initiating
- 46:35S1: toward God, but when God initiates toward us, it opens
- 46:40S1: this door into new life, into abundance, into the fruit
- 46:46S1: of the spirit. All that stuff is his doing. It's
- 46:49S1: not ours.
- 46:49S2: Yes. And there's so many things that are not accessible
- 46:52S2: to us any other way. Oh, think about it. Yeah.
- 46:56S2: True joy, true peace. Not accessible. Totally inaccessible. Apart from
- 47:03S2: the work of Jesus.
- 47:04S1: Yeah. It's so beautiful. Doctor Crawford Leritz here, dear friend.
- 47:08S1: Great man of God. Going to be speaking of Founder's Week,
- 47:11S1: we'll give you a banner ad in a moment, but
- 47:12S1: we're going to jump in the deep end here. Crawford.
- 47:15S1: So good to have you with us, man.
- 47:17S10: It's always good to be with you, my friend.
- 47:19S1: Oh, what a joy. Ali and I admire you so
- 47:23S1: much and we are so grateful for you. Yeah. All right,
- 47:26S1: enough of that. I'm going to jump into it. Let's
- 47:28S1: get into the text. I was looking at something early
- 47:31S1: this morning and I thought, man, I could camp on
- 47:33S1: this verse. I told you a month, right? Yes. This
- 47:35S1: will keep me going for a month. One verse keep
- 47:37S1: me going for a month since we have these promises
- 47:41S1: now he's just iterated. I will make my dwelling among you.
- 47:45S1: I will walk among them. I will be their God.
- 47:47S1: This is about getting reconciled with God. Since we have
- 47:51S1: these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from every defilement
- 47:56S1: of body and spirit, bringing holiness to completion in the
- 47:59S1: fear of God. Here's what's amazing to me since we
- 48:02S1: have these promises. So it's. A lot of us live
- 48:06S1: in a Western Christianity that we're making promises to God,
- 48:10S1: and we're bootstrapping our faith. We're just saying, I'm going
- 48:14S1: to do this for you, I got this. What we
- 48:17S1: find here, Paul's saying, since we have these promises initiated
- 48:21S1: by God.
- 48:22S10: Yes.
- 48:23S1: Because he's moved toward us, we will move along with him.
- 48:28S1: This is an epic verse, isn't it?
- 48:29S10: It is an epic verse. But just the way you
- 48:31S10: frame that, you know, we make the dastardly assumption that
- 48:35S10: we have the power to keep our promises to God.
- 48:39S1: Yeah.
- 48:40S10: And the point being is that desperation and dependence is
- 48:45S10: the draws, the draws his power toward us. When we
- 48:49S10: realize that we have nothing to bring to the table,
- 48:52S10: and yet we see these magnificent things that he's done
- 48:56S10: that forces me to decide to embrace the fear of God,
- 49:00S10: to decide to embrace the goodness of God. And that
- 49:04S10: produces the transformation.
- 49:05S1: Yeah.
- 49:06S2: We've got Doctor Crawford Leritz. He's president and founder of
- 49:09S2: Beyond Our Generation, committed to helping the next generation of
- 49:12S2: Christian leaders, nationally known speaker, author, mentor. As we mentioned
- 49:16S2: Founders Day speaker this morning. What is your heart when
- 49:19S2: you when you read a verse like this and you
- 49:21S2: see how Christianity or I'll even use air quotes. Sometimes
- 49:25S2: cultural Christianity is being lived out today. Um, messages that
- 49:29S2: are being put forth that maybe you look at and
- 49:32S2: go close, but not quite. What is your heart for
- 49:35S2: us returning to the true gospel, the true word of God.
- 49:39S10: Yeah. And I understand why. Why we preach messages like that.
- 49:44S10: And I understand it's out of our love and concern
- 49:47S10: for people to identify with them, but identifying with them
- 49:52S10: doesn't bring the path to deliverance. And so what we
- 49:57S10: need to do is change our thinking. At the end
- 50:00S10: of the day, the proclamation of the Word of God
- 50:03S10: and Bible teaching, preaching, discipleship, making, the handling of content is,
- 50:10S10: is vertical.
- 50:11S1: Yeah.
- 50:12S10: It's vertical. It's not to enhance and just say, hey, look,
- 50:16S10: be incrementally satisfied with a tiny bit of progress today.
- 50:21S10: It is the urgency of our lives. And I know
- 50:24S10: some of our listeners might think, you know, you're being
- 50:27S10: too intense, but but God, God has initiated and and
- 50:31S10: institutionalized uncertainty in the human life. Yes. We don't control
- 50:36S10: the clock. We don't control the calendar. We don't control
- 50:39S10: the next. Why does he do that? He does that
- 50:42S10: because of the truth of that old hymn, I need thee, O,
- 50:45S10: I need thee every hour I need thee. And it is.
- 50:48S10: It is in the embracing of our desperation. Notice I
- 50:52S10: didn't say despair. Despair is hopelessness. Desperation is the passionate
- 50:57S10: pursuit of our only means of hope. And that is him.
- 51:02S10: That is him. And so we need to quit. Quit,
- 51:05S10: you know, buttering up people and beefing them up. And,
- 51:09S10: you know, I can do it. I can do it,
- 51:10S10: I can do it, I can do it. No, you can't.
- 51:13S10: But he can. And that's when you become the miracle.
- 51:16S10: And that's when you see things happen far beyond anything
- 51:19S10: you could ever dream or imagine.
- 51:20S1: Embracing our desperation. You know how counterintuitive that is to
- 51:25S1: even the ethos of the American dream.
- 51:28S10: Yeah, yeah. Because pride is embedded in us. You know,
- 51:34S10: pride wears many disguises, including false spirituality. Uh, we take
- 51:39S10: pride in being accurate theologically. We take pride in what
- 51:44S10: God has produced, and we talk about how smart we were.
- 51:47S1: Our 401 KS.
- 51:48S10: Yeah, that's exactly right.
- 51:51S1: Yeah. It's an elusive thing. Wow. We got a man
- 51:54S1: with a seer coming up in just a moment. Uh,
- 51:57S1: there was something he said to me before we came
- 51:59S1: on air, Ali, that I want us to drill down on.
- 52:01S1: I think you're with me. He said, we have we
- 52:05S1: have made discipleship a process when it was never intended
- 52:10S1: to be that at all. What's the answer to it?
- 52:13S1: We'll have it with our guest, Doctor Crawford. Lauritz.
- 52:18S7: Start your day moving closer to Jesus. You're listening to
- 52:22S7: Carl and Crew.
- 52:23S1: Well, Founders Week is. I can't believe it, man. We've
- 52:27S1: been talking about it forever. It's almost. Wrap it up.
- 52:29S11: Yeah. This is the last full day of Founder's Week.
- 52:31S2: So the activities, well, they're already underway. There's an open
- 52:35S2: house happening right now. And so we're in a different
- 52:37S2: studio with folks who are going to be trickling in to,
- 52:40S2: to take part. And then the morning session kicks off
- 52:43S2: at 930 central time. So you can get here if
- 52:45S2: you are around and can take maybe a little bit
- 52:47S2: of a Friday off, but definitely the live stream, just
- 52:50S2: text founders to 805, five, five, 78, 98.
- 52:53S1: I was certain yesterday that when people walked in here,
- 52:56S1: they'd be Chicago folks. No, no, we had Papua New Guinea,
- 53:00S1: we had New York, we had Florida, we had Tennessee,
- 53:04S1: we had.
- 53:05S11: Alaska.
- 53:05S1: Alaska, we had Spokane. We had Ohio. Those are among
- 53:11S1: the people that came through in this little in studio
- 53:14S1: tour Thingamajiggy we're doing.
- 53:15S2: Yeah, we were just sitting here totally shocked. I mean,
- 53:18S2: this conference, we knew.
- 53:19S12: Blowing in my mind, I.
- 53:21S2: Mean, I knew that it was a it was a longest,
- 53:23S2: obviously free Bible conference in the country, longest running, but
- 53:27S2: that so many people came from so far to take
- 53:29S2: part in it.
- 53:30S1: And, and then just those are the ones that were
- 53:33S1: in there in our studio.
- 53:34S11: Yes. Out of this. Out of about a group of.
- 53:37S2: 15.
- 53:37S11: Papua.
- 53:38S12: New Guinea.
- 53:38S11: 5 to 7 states represented.
- 53:40S1: Just awesome. And by the way, there's a quality in
- 53:43S1: these saints that is totally compelling. Yeah. You know what
- 53:47S1: I'm saying? Yeah. When we talk to him, which brings
- 53:50S1: me to this Doctor Crawford. Leritz is going to be
- 53:52S1: dishing it up this morning at Founder's Week. And if
- 53:55S1: you want to hear something that's going to put fire
- 53:57S1: in your belly, walk in agreement with the Holy Spirit.
- 54:01S1: Text founder's to 805 557898. You got to listen to
- 54:05S1: Crawford this morning.
- 54:06S10: No pressure.
- 54:07S1: Yeah. No, no. Don't you know what I love to say?
- 54:09S1: Don't screw it up now, man. All right. So, Crawford, uh, discipleship.
- 54:14S1: We've we've really been like, get to this class, get
- 54:17S1: through this book. It's all about process, but it is a.
- 54:21S10: Person, person. And, uh, and I want to balance something
- 54:26S10: all because process is important.
- 54:29S1: Sure.
- 54:30S10: But process doesn't get you to the point of discipleship.
- 54:34S10: Decision always precedes development. You don't, you don't. You don't
- 54:40S10: process yourself into I oh, oh, now I want to be.
- 54:43S10: Oh yeah, I want to be. Oh yeah. Well, maybe
- 54:45S10: I want to do this. No, you decide on that.
- 54:49S10: Jesus drew the line in Luke chapter 14. When you
- 54:53S10: read Luke chapter 14, he gives those three universal negatives.
- 54:58S10: Unless you hate your mother, father, etc., etc., etc.. Can
- 55:02S10: I be my disciple? Unless you pick up your cross
- 55:05S10: and follow me? You cannot be my disciple unless you
- 55:08S10: relinquish ownership. You cannot be my disciple. What do those
- 55:11S10: three things have in common? Decision. I heard a young
- 55:15S10: man preaching on that text, and he made what I
- 55:19S10: consider to be a classic era. He said, well, Jesus
- 55:23S10: is inviting you. I said, no, no, no, no, he's
- 55:25S10: not inviting you. He's requiring you.
- 55:29S1: To decide.
- 55:30S10: To decide. And so we got to be careful in
- 55:33S10: our desire not to offend people. And I'm sure certainly
- 55:37S10: we shouldn't be bombastic that we don't rebrand the statements
- 55:41S10: of scripture. Yeah. No, no. It's a decision. So so
- 55:46S10: if and it's not a decision to be perfect, but
- 55:49S10: it's a decision that says I am all in. But
- 55:51S10: that decision focuses on the person of Jesus. And all
- 55:55S10: these processes should not obscure the person of Jesus. You know, yes,
- 56:00S10: we need to know how to read the Bible. Yes,
- 56:02S10: we need to know how to pray. Yes, we need
- 56:03S10: to know how to share our faith. Yes, we need
- 56:05S10: to know how to overcome our sin. For what? For what? Well,
- 56:11S10: so that Christ is glorified. He is seen. The beauty
- 56:15S10: of our Savior is there. Our love is not on
- 56:19S10: these things that we pour ourselves into. It's not just
- 56:22S10: the disciplines. No, it's the person of Jesus. Yes. And
- 56:27S10: we lay all these things down because we love Jesus.
- 56:31S10: It's just like any. Carl, you are a one woman man.
- 56:35S1: Yeah.
- 56:36S10: Yeah. You've made that decision.
- 56:37S12: You made it.
- 56:38S10: And so so you do certain things as evidence of
- 56:42S10: that decision. But the things that you do, they don't
- 56:45S10: represent replacing the decision. They come out of that decision.
- 56:49S1: That's a profound insight.
- 56:50S10: Yeah. And so we've got we've got to be careful.
- 56:54S10: All of us have a bent toward legalism.
- 56:57S1: Oh we don't.
- 56:58S10: Once we master something, we we think that the thing
- 57:03S10: that we've mastered has now become the fourth member of
- 57:05S10: the Trinity. And so we want to sell that to people.
- 57:09S10: You know, this is how I've done this. And and
- 57:11S10: I'm saying, okay, write the book on how you did it. Okay.
- 57:15S10: But make sure that the spotlight is Jesus and what
- 57:19S10: you're doing has extended from Jesus.
- 57:21S13: I love it.
- 57:22S10: You know, don't replace Jesus. Uh, we get backdoored into
- 57:26S10: being 21st century Pharisees. Yeah. And that's the biggest problem
- 57:30S10: that I have with ethics. The bottom line in the
- 57:34S10: New Testament, Jesus presents discipleship as as being clearly the
- 57:40S10: person of who he is and the mission that he
- 57:44S10: stood for. And everything else extends from that. It comes
- 57:49S10: out of, but don't replace it.
- 57:51S2: Doctor Crawford Lauritz with us this morning. You know, I
- 57:53S2: think I'm I'm trying to think the person listening right
- 57:55S2: now because this can become it can be challenging to
- 57:58S2: understand because you you go, okay, I'm I'm I'm reading
- 58:01S2: my Bible. I'm praying I'm going to a, a Wednesday
- 58:04S2: night Bible study. And I'm, I'm doing these things that
- 58:06S2: are supposed to be helping me. But am I becoming
- 58:09S2: legalistic with it? Because, you know, when you think about
- 58:12S2: a relationship, we have to acknowledge that, you know, Carl,
- 58:15S2: you he used the example of you and your bride.
- 58:18S2: You can you see her every day. You lock arms
- 58:21S2: with her. There's a there's a mystery to the relationship
- 58:25S2: with Jesus Christ. That is hard to sometimes pin down.
- 58:30S10: Yes, and one of the reasons why it's hard to
- 58:33S10: pin down is because we don't want to relinquish control.
- 58:37S10: It's wonderful for me to benchmark myself and see improvement.
- 58:41S10: I control that, I control how often I pray, I control,
- 58:45S10: I control how many chapters of the Bible I'm going
- 58:47S10: to read today. I control well, I'm going to I'm
- 58:49S10: going to share my faith with, you know, seven people
- 58:52S10: this week, I control that.
- 58:54S1: Yeah, you're right about that.
- 58:55S10: I control that now the to me, the indicator on
- 58:59S10: the dashboard is this, um, do, do, do I sense
- 59:06S10: the presence of my Savior? Uh, am I, am I,
- 59:11S10: am I grateful that I'm, I'm doing this as a
- 59:15S10: love offering to him. Um, is my heart being massaged
- 59:21S10: and changed? Um is a fruit of the spirit becoming
- 59:27S10: organically displayed, not legalistically orchestrated. That's what we need to
- 59:35S10: pay attention to.
- 59:36S1: Yeah.
- 59:37S10: That's what we need to pay attention to. You know,
- 59:41S10: I love my wife more now than ever before. Than
- 59:46S10: ever before. And one of the reasons why is I
- 59:50S10: look back and see her sacrifices for me. Yeah. What
- 59:53S10: she's done. It is absolutely incredible. And this is, you know,
- 59:58S10: this is it's a horrible comparison. And my wife, if
- 1:00:01S10: she was here, she would say, you better think of
- 1:00:03S10: a better illustration. But but but this is you read
- 1:00:06S10: from second Corinthians seven one.
- 1:00:09S1: Yeah.
- 1:00:10S10: The reason why we want to cleanse ourselves from defilement
- 1:00:15S10: and the reason why we want to pursue holiness. It's
- 1:00:18S10: the same thing that Paul said in Romans 121 and two.
- 1:00:21S10: I urge you, therefore, what is. What's it there for?
- 1:00:24S10: It reaches back all the manifest goodness of God. God's
- 1:00:29S10: been good to you. He's been good to you. And
- 1:00:32S10: so I do these things not to get clicks, likes,
- 1:00:36S10: or people to buy my books or listen to my podcast,
- 1:00:40S10: or to see that I'm such, such a great model.
- 1:00:43S10: I do this because I love my Savior, and it's
- 1:00:47S10: the overflow of these things that produces a tsunami of impact.
- 1:00:53S10: And I think, you know, one other quick thing. Yeah,
- 1:00:56S10: I think we're too strategic for our own good. I
- 1:01:00S10: think we assume that we are expert at strategic planning.
- 1:01:03S10: And don't get me wrong, I, I'm a believer in it.
- 1:01:06S10: Proverbs in the book and Nehemiah had a strategy. Paul
- 1:01:09S10: has I get that. I get that. But what's your passion?
- 1:01:16S10: Is it the how or the who?
- 1:01:18S2: Ooh that's good.
- 1:01:20S1: Yeah. I gotta tell you, Crawford, in a very vulnerable
- 1:01:23S1: thing here, I'm gonna tell you haven't haven't been a
- 1:01:25S1: lead pastor for a lot of years. I was a
- 1:01:28S1: whiteboard fanatic.
- 1:01:29S10: Oh, you're looking at me. One.
- 1:01:31S1: Yeah, but I gotta tell you, I don't use them anymore.
- 1:01:34S12: Mhm.
- 1:01:36S1: Doesn't mean we don't have planning.
- 1:01:37S12: Mhm.
- 1:01:38S1: But we are listening. I'm beginning to finally understand. This
- 1:01:43S1: is about a living, breathing relationship with our friend Jesus.
- 1:01:47S1: And he's more interested in our impact than we ever
- 1:01:50S1: hoped to be.
- 1:01:51S10: Absolutely.
- 1:01:51S1: And he's got the purest way of going at it.
- 1:01:53S10: Yes.
- 1:01:54S1: And speaking of that purest way, when we get back,
- 1:01:56S1: I want to go after this. We haven't. It's been
- 1:01:58S1: a while since we've talked about humility as that birthplace
- 1:02:01S1: of all good virtue. It's been a while. Let's go
- 1:02:05S1: after that. More with Doctor Crawford. Leritz. Boy, I'll tell
- 1:02:08S1: you what. We could sit here for a month of Sundays.
- 1:02:12S7: She's a choreographer extraordinaire, and everything is Greek to her.
- 1:02:17S7: Super di is in the crew. It's Carl and crew
- 1:02:21S7: on Moody Radio.
- 1:02:22S1: First, Peter, Philippians two. We find humility championed over and
- 1:02:28S1: over again in the scriptures. And we're talking with Doctor
- 1:02:32S1: Crawford Lauritz about discipleship, which is a person in a person,
- 1:02:37S1: not in a process. Yes, there's decisions that are made. And,
- 1:02:43S1: you know, I've often thought here in the last decade
- 1:02:46S1: or so that this is not about process. This is
- 1:02:50S1: about a person, but it's about our posture before that person.
- 1:02:54S12: Yes.
- 1:02:55S1: And this posture of humility is a is a wild
- 1:03:01S1: thing because when you have a touch point with genuine humility,
- 1:03:05S1: you walk differently because now you're not looking for someone
- 1:03:10S1: to authenticate me, to affirm me. You've received such holy
- 1:03:18S1: friendship from God that you walk around with this weird
- 1:03:24S1: bulletproof ness. Yes. That it. It's almost this strange delight
- 1:03:31S1: in the power of God. And you're in his hand,
- 1:03:35S1: and in due time, he will lift you up and
- 1:03:37S1: you're peeking through his fingers at the world, through his fingers,
- 1:03:40S1: at the world around you. Crawford. It's that wild, isn't it?
- 1:03:43S10: It really is. And but, you know, humility really is
- 1:03:46S10: a decision. It's a decision that is informed by a reality.
- 1:03:52S12: Yeah.
- 1:03:53S10: And the reality is my permanent sense of God neediness.
- 1:03:57S10: You cannot be truly humble until you are convinced. You
- 1:04:02S10: are terribly convinced that you need him. It is spiritual
- 1:04:08S10: desperation that you have to embrace.
- 1:04:11S1: Every moment of the day.
- 1:04:13S10: That's right. But but but but the next step, though
- 1:04:16S10: you can't truly be humble until you're baptized in gratitude.
- 1:04:20S10: Gratitude is the expression of neediness.
- 1:04:24S12: That's good.
- 1:04:25S10: And are you really grateful? Are you grateful? Are you
- 1:04:30S10: bragging about, you know, you hit a triple. No, you
- 1:04:34S10: didn't hit a triple. You were born on third base.
- 1:04:37S10: Are you bragging about that? Uh, there's nothing in your
- 1:04:40S10: life that that you have truly orchestrated. Uh, we're not
- 1:04:46S10: that smart.
- 1:04:47S12: Yeah.
- 1:04:48S10: We're really not that smart. And stop assigning sovereignty to yourself.
- 1:04:53S10: You know, we can make good decisions. But who gave
- 1:04:57S10: you the wisdom for that? Uh, we we take pride
- 1:05:01S10: over stuff we have categorically no control over.
- 1:05:03S1: Even every good and perfect gift comes.
- 1:05:06S12: Down.
- 1:05:06S10: Comes from God. I mean, we're sitting around here with
- 1:05:10S10: microphones in front of us. You know, we're at this place. Carl,
- 1:05:14S10: you've written books, you're influencing people, you're influencing people, all
- 1:05:18S10: of that kind of stuff. But when you look at
- 1:05:19S10: your life, there's all kinds of stuff you can't explain.
- 1:05:23S10: You can't explain to people who believed in you. You
- 1:05:25S10: can't explain the doors that were open for you. Yeah,
- 1:05:29S10: you can't explain that. And I think we need to
- 1:05:31S10: lead with that.
- 1:05:33S12: Yes.
- 1:05:34S10: Lead with that. It's not a lack of confidence. In fact,
- 1:05:38S10: you cannot truly be humble unless you are confident. Humility
- 1:05:43S10: is God confidence.
- 1:05:44S12: Yeah.
- 1:05:45S1: One fully and totally.
- 1:05:47S10: That's right. And you can be bold and clear and courageous.
- 1:05:51S10: That's evidence of true humility because God takes care of you.
- 1:05:58S10: Jesus could lay aside Philippians two. We often preach that
- 1:06:03S10: text apart from its context. Paul is using Jesus condescension
- 1:06:09S10: as an example of humility.
- 1:06:12S1: 100. He humbled himself and became as a man.
- 1:06:15S10: But. But it is set up. Say, well, he did
- 1:06:17S10: not think equality of God with God was a thing
- 1:06:19S10: to be grasped. Or to put it another way, he
- 1:06:22S10: knew who he was. He knew who he was. So
- 1:06:26S10: he can lay aside those privileges to accomplish something that
- 1:06:30S10: was great. And so you can't truly be humble until
- 1:06:35S10: you really know who you are. You can't be. You
- 1:06:38S10: can't truly be humble until you embrace the reality that
- 1:06:42S10: God will always take care of me. So I don't
- 1:06:44S10: have to get in spitting contest with people. I don't
- 1:06:46S10: have to compare myself with people. I don't have to
- 1:06:49S10: compete with anybody because God has taken care of me
- 1:06:52S10: in impeccable ways.
- 1:06:54S1: And that's the freedom he wants. Yes, because it's freedom.
- 1:06:57S14: Yeah, yeah. Crawford. Lawrence. Doctor. Crawford.
- 1:07:00S1: Yeah. Crawford, we love you.
- 1:07:02S10: I love you, too, my brother.
- 1:07:03S1: We love this brother, don't we?
- 1:07:05S14: I this has been truly.
- 1:07:07S2: An anointed time.
- 1:07:08S10: Wow. This has been a great time, Karl.
- 1:07:10S1: It's really good.