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Deb Antney Breaks Her Silence on Da Brat, Gucci Mane & the Claims That Won’t Go Away · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: The Jewish.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a homegrow that knows a little bit about everything
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  Speaker 2: and everybody.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren
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  Speaker 1: came in.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, it's Lauren Rosa. This is the Latest with
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  Speaker 2: Lauren Rosa. This is you daily did on all things
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  Speaker 2: pop culture, entertainment, news and all of the conversations that
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  Speaker 2: shake the room. Baby and joining me today. I have
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  Speaker 2: a boss, a mother, a visionary. Miss deb Antony is
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  Speaker 2: here on the Latest with Lauren Rosa. Thank you for
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  Speaker 2: joining me. How you feeling today?
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  Speaker 1: Excellent? I'm feeling really really, I'm feeling good.
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  Speaker 2: So this is our first time actually getting a chance
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  Speaker 2: to me. I've reached out to you prior on different
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  Speaker 2: stories and things like that, but we've never met before. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, thank you for coming on the platform.
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  Speaker 1: And it's my pleasure.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I don't have a problem doing something with you, Lauren,
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  Speaker 3: Like especially right now, I can't think of anybody else
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  Speaker 3: that I sit down with to even do this interview.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate that that means a lot from you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I really know you don't I've done my own
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  Speaker 3: homework and I have a lot of people that really
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  Speaker 3: hold you in high regards and that idea means a
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  Speaker 3: lot to be. They mean a lot to be even
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  Speaker 3: though we're actually getting ready to get on with something
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  Speaker 3: that hurts me from a person that I so love, Like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't understand.
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  Speaker 1: I'm confused. So let's get this party started.
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  Speaker 4: I'm down to get right to it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's get a started. Let's let's talk about it
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  Speaker 2: a bit. So you and the Brat, there was a
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  Speaker 2: clip that went viral with Rat talking about a boot
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  Speaker 2: camp style show that you guys had pitched or were
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  Speaker 2: pitching to a few networks, or we're going to begin
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  Speaker 2: to pitch a few networks very similar and according to
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  Speaker 2: the Brad to what you know, Dev's house is already
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  Speaker 2: and in the clip, she's accusing you of basically taking
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  Speaker 2: the remainder of the idea that you guys came up
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  Speaker 2: with together and doing it on your own.
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  Speaker 4: What is happening.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know where this came from.
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  Speaker 3: We did do on Rowing Up pip Hop, Okay, we
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  Speaker 3: did have something there that we wanted to do, which
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  Speaker 3: was a boot camp show, and we actually filmed a
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  Speaker 3: part to see the reaction of the people and what
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  Speaker 3: would happen.
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  Speaker 1: But the network denied us. Now, the boot camp.
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  Speaker 3: That me and Debrat was talking about, it was going
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  Speaker 3: to be a real.
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  Speaker 1: Camp, like a real boot camp, like we had went.
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  Speaker 3: And scouted out the housing where the boot camps is
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  Speaker 3: going to be, where they was going to be marching,
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  Speaker 3: like all the whole boot camp style thing.
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  Speaker 1: We did do that.
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  Speaker 2: When you say it was gonna be a real boot camp,
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  Speaker 2: because people will argue, well, Depth's House is like a
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  Speaker 2: boot camp, because those.
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  Speaker 1: Death houses build a boot camp.
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  Speaker 3: Let me let me just explain that to you. Let
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  Speaker 3: me just send it to you. Death's House was you
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  Speaker 3: against you?
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  Speaker 1: You verse you.
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  Speaker 3: Death House is a show for a lot of years,
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  Speaker 3: and that's how this all began.
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  Speaker 1: Even as talking about it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, one of my biggest problems I do know
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  Speaker 3: how to keep my mouth shut, Like I want to
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  Speaker 3: invite everybody into when I have an idea, I want
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  Speaker 3: to invite everybody in. And this whole thing I talked
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  Speaker 3: to the Bratt about. Now, this is my life period.
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  Speaker 3: This is something that I like doing. I love building artists.
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  Speaker 3: That's something that I loved doing. I love the Brett
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  Speaker 3: Because me and the Brad was just so close.
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  Speaker 1: We was going through a lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I don't kind of want to be there to talk
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  Speaker 3: about both of our personals at that time and things
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  Speaker 3: that we were going through. We were being hit with
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  Speaker 3: stuff that we need to make some more money. Let's
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  Speaker 3: come up, and I said, I came up with the camp,
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  Speaker 3: the book camp. At that time, it wasn't called Dev's
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  Speaker 3: House because it wasn't about that this one here there
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  Speaker 3: was no woman versus another woman, but there also was
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  Speaker 3: a thing. And I don't want to get so confused
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  Speaker 3: up and bottled up in this stuff that as I
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  Speaker 3: think about it, because mindra, this was some years ago,
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  Speaker 3: impossible for Brett to not know that I was doing
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  Speaker 3: Dev's House because the Bratt was supposed to come on
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  Speaker 3: to be a judge. That fact, you can get the network,
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  Speaker 3: call them do whatever. She was supposed to be the
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  Speaker 3: judge of that show. But with her doing the Breton
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  Speaker 3: Judy Show, and as I started reading my emails, I
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  Speaker 3: remember and when Brett didn't even really want to do
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  Speaker 3: that show, that was me going at them because they
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  Speaker 3: were trying to be dirty, to get them to really
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  Speaker 3: do the show, to be dirty, so at that time
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  Speaker 3: they could go after Judy and.
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  Speaker 1: It was a lot of stuff that was going on.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really know Judy show.
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  Speaker 3: I don't really want to discuss a lot of that
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  Speaker 3: stuff either, but it was a lot of rumors that
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  Speaker 3: was going on during that time, and the producers at
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  Speaker 3: that time were messy, okay, and I remember going in
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  Speaker 3: and going off on them. If you do something to her,
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  Speaker 3: you heard her, you make her look bad? D Hi,
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  Speaker 3: she know how all of that went down. Well, she
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  Speaker 3: never got to come on to my show Death's House
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  Speaker 3: to be a guest. She knew all about the show.
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  Speaker 3: I called her as far as I'm saying, she seen
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  Speaker 3: me and she and I said hoy to her, and
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  Speaker 3: she just did whatever and not want to talk.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember that, but I do remembers I thought
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  Speaker 3: that Bratt was still mad at me because I never
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  Speaker 3: attended her wedding. I had COVID. I had COVID, and
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  Speaker 3: I never came to the wedding. But I was at
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  Speaker 3: the baby shower.
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  Speaker 1: I was there.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I had text up. She's not lying. I did text
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  Speaker 1: and say I'm missed, but she never did hit me back.
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  Speaker 3: And I didn't understand this in a million years, Lauren,
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  Speaker 3: I could be the dumbest person on earth. But this
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  Speaker 3: is not Brett's doing, okay, and it was something that
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  Speaker 3: was cahersed. You could tell why all these years later,
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  Speaker 3: this is second season, I'm about to do a third
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  Speaker 3: season and you're just now coming up with I stole
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  Speaker 3: the show.
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  Speaker 1: Why now, let's even go back.
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  Speaker 3: You called Brett that you brought him into this, which
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  Speaker 3: you wrong because it wasn't Brett. Brett had nothing to
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  Speaker 3: do with this at that time. There was other people
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  Speaker 3: that was in the network that was no longer there
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  Speaker 3: because the whole big issue about the black and white
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  Speaker 3: thing of we TV.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody knows that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, he had nothing to do with this, But you
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  Speaker 3: made a phone call to him. Why would you not
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  Speaker 3: have said, oh, Death's about to call you. Let me
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  Speaker 3: get down on the phone right now. In Corp, you
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  Speaker 3: have my numbers. My numbers didn't change. I have all
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  Speaker 3: of the same numbers. Okay, they didn't change. I'm so
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  Speaker 3: tired of people using this thing of stealing as an
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  Speaker 3: excuse every time, and that's because how don't defend me.
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  Speaker 1: I never come in and defend myself. When a person
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  Speaker 1: says something even last week before.
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  Speaker 3: Her I guess he got the idea from Jacob York
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  Speaker 3: saying I sold Gucci Man from him.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so now.
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  Speaker 3: It's Deaths up for I mean, I gotta Telly.
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  Speaker 1: Award for my reality shows. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: There was no fighting, no drugs. This was women versusing themselves.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to show women how you destroyed your own
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  Speaker 3: life and stop blaming people.
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  Speaker 1: It's my life. It's what I go through in this game.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm want. Was the thief.
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  Speaker 3: They're always saying, that's the famous lines that everybody say,
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  Speaker 3: it's the thief.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't stolen nothing from nobody. I only give careers.
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  Speaker 3: I give you an opportunity to come out of the poverty,
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  Speaker 3: to come out of everything it is that you go through.
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  Speaker 3: I give those ideas to people. I give hope to
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  Speaker 3: the hopeless period. So for how to say that I
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  Speaker 3: stole the show, he's wrong. They denied that show. That
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  Speaker 3: show was denied years ago, So why now come up.
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  Speaker 3: When I came up with Death's House, I let Brad
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  Speaker 3: know I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Just do that to that.
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: You know how bad this is piercing me?
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  Speaker 2: This hurts you called you were pitching Dev's House. I'm sorry, honey,
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  Speaker 2: I said, you said you let her know, so you
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  Speaker 2: mean you called the bra.
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  Speaker 1: I told her about Dev's house.
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  Speaker 3: I told her, she said to me, because I said,
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  Speaker 3: I want to take it back to the essence of
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  Speaker 3: the beginning. Okay, and this is when at that time
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  Speaker 3: where people could come in all made up. He was
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  Speaker 3: really really training artists. Is development you was getting. So
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  Speaker 3: it's like they came to that bear like maybe a
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  Speaker 3: sweatshirt and all that. She said, Oh, ain't nobody gonna
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  Speaker 3: do that. Nobody's gonna do that. So we kind of
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  Speaker 3: got into it a little bit on the argument of
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  Speaker 3: that on Growing Up Hip Hoop. If people remember, there
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  Speaker 3: was a disagreement that we had on the album thing.
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  Speaker 3: But I didn't want to do no music with the
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  Speaker 3: artists that I were on there except bow Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I can't think of who else.
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  Speaker 3: I can't think our name for oh my gosh, it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna kill me from Grandmom, but I always forget her
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  Speaker 3: name Diamond.
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  Speaker 1: Diamond. Yeah, she would do something maybe.
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  Speaker 3: With her like she had got on there, but she
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  Speaker 3: didn't want to do no music with the rest of
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  Speaker 3: them because they wasn't her standards. Well, that was a
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  Speaker 3: difference with me because the music if I did it
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  Speaker 3: with an artist, I would want that artist to do
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  Speaker 3: something with another artist that was something really big for
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  Speaker 3: me to show give back. That's a big problem that
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  Speaker 3: we have as women. We don't know how to give back,
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  Speaker 3: you undersaid. We all we know how to do is fight, fight, fight, fight, fight. No,
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  Speaker 3: but each one teach one and that's the whole gimmick
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  Speaker 3: to the whole thing. But we couldn't do that. So
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  Speaker 3: guess what, I am not willing to risk my relationship. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't willing to risk my relationship by doing something
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  Speaker 3: with her and we fall out because of that disagreement.
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  Speaker 3: That really bothered me too. Okay, not saying that it
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  Speaker 3: had to go my way because it was both of us. Like,
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  Speaker 3: we did come up with some stuff, but that was
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  Speaker 3: the bookcamp that was totally different.
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  Speaker 1: It had nothing to do with what I did. And
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  Speaker 1: I promised you this.
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  Speaker 3: This was done when each woman and you could ask,
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  Speaker 3: you could interview every one of them. I didn't do
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  Speaker 3: a book camp site thing. I put them against them them.
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  Speaker 3: But every fighting that came on the show thought we
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  Speaker 3: were loving hip hop.
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  Speaker 1: Thought we was the baddies.
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  Speaker 3: They want you fight, you fight, you off drugs you off,
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  Speaker 3: and of these things you have to get off. But
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  Speaker 3: each one had to love each other. I don't make
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  Speaker 3: women go up against each other. They ain't never been
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  Speaker 3: my thing.
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  Speaker 1: Never.
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  Speaker 2: What about the like the clarifying of the timeline, right,
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  Speaker 2: because when I watched it and like she's showing like
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  Speaker 2: the when I watched the episode and she's in the
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  Speaker 2: rats showing the pitch deck and all the different things,
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  Speaker 2: and she says the same thing you said, like it
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  Speaker 2: was not totally my idea. We brought ideas together and
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  Speaker 2: it was gonna be something we did together. It seems
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  Speaker 2: like at the time where you decided to say, okay,
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  Speaker 2: the network dropped this, when when was that?
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  Speaker 1: Like what year?
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  Speaker 4: What months? Do you remember?
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  Speaker 1: That was like twenty two?
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  Speaker 2: And then you pitched Deb so that gets any by
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  Speaker 2: the network. You pitch Deb's House and they pick it up.
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  Speaker 4: What year was your first season?
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  Speaker 1: Picked up? First season? Okay?
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  Speaker 3: You have to remember when you talk about it is
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  Speaker 3: a whole year that go by.
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  Speaker 1: So I think it was like twenty one twenty two.
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  Speaker 3: Then I did Depth House the first one, dag, I
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  Speaker 3: don't even remember what's is twenty sixth Let me look
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  Speaker 3: see when I did the first one four twenty four, twenty.
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  Speaker 2: Four got you okay, because what did it? What the
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  Speaker 2: way that the way that she like mentions it by
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  Speaker 2: starting out with, okay, we had this idea together, and
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  Speaker 2: then depths House came about.
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  Speaker 4: What it sounds like is.
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  Speaker 1: Even deth House didn't come about like that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but about you get what I'm saying though, Like
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  Speaker 2: the timeline I think is what she's pointing to, and
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  Speaker 2: she's saying that if there was an idea, even if
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  Speaker 2: loosely close to what you did, she felt like whatever
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  Speaker 2: came after that should have been both of you guys included,
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  Speaker 2: because of the joint ideas that you had.
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  Speaker 3: But Lurosa, listen, Lauren, I'll promise you on everything I love.
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  Speaker 3: Brad knew about death House. I promised you on everything
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  Speaker 3: I love. We have the same network. How would she
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  Speaker 3: not know I'm doing deps House?
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  Speaker 1: How was she did not know? We talked?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, she was supposed to have been a judge on there,
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  Speaker 3: but she was doing the bretton Judy Show. One thing
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  Speaker 3: about Brett Brett, I mean she got on this nation.
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  Speaker 3: Why should it bring us to this nation?
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 3: Why does she not bring us to this nation. Why
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  Speaker 3: does she not bring me on there? Why does she
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  Speaker 3: not bring me on her show and say that she
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  Speaker 3: had to say to me right then and there? Why
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  Speaker 3: does she not call me on the phone. I've even
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  Speaker 3: called her still.
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  Speaker 1: Now after.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry you called her after this clipment r Yeah, once.
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  Speaker 3: I woke up that when the people been calling me
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  Speaker 3: like crazy, because everybody know how much I love to.
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  Speaker 1: Brett, they know how much she respect I have for her.
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  Speaker 3: People don't believe this, and it it's like I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to hear the stuff that what they got to say.
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  Speaker 3: And because you got a personal feeling against somebody else,
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  Speaker 3: you understand.
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  Speaker 1: What I'm saying is like why I called to take you? Why?
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  Speaker 1: Why would you do this?
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  Speaker 3: Why would you lye on me with this because y'all
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  Speaker 3: on Facebook now? Is it because you need clicks? Is
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  Speaker 3: it because you need something to talk about?
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  Speaker 1: Why would you do that to me?
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  Speaker 3: You know I would have rock with you or whatever
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  Speaker 3: you could have told me, Jath, I need you for this,
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  Speaker 3: I'd have did it. Yes, you're a brad. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: gonna take anything away from the excellent artist.
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  Speaker 1: Love her, but.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I do.
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  Speaker 1: I really do this.
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  Speaker 3: She didn't come up to this. I came up with
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  Speaker 3: I've been had this idea. I did a show a
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  Speaker 3: long time ago that she came off for me with
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  Speaker 3: bone crusher her or left. That's how the little girl
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  Speaker 3: the kids came not a kids at your mansa free
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  Speaker 3: but I have take that.
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  Speaker 1: Have those kids on what I did?
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  Speaker 3: Because the adults did better than the kids. I said, damn,
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  Speaker 3: I said, do the kids. It's setting their adults because
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  Speaker 3: the kids did better than their adults. Next thing I
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  Speaker 3: knew that sail came on.
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  Speaker 1: Did I come on this say you stole my show?
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  Speaker 3: No? I did not. I came up with an idea
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  Speaker 3: of I kick what's that that show in New Orleans.
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  Speaker 3: I was supposed to do it at a club in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 3: That show case.
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  Speaker 1: Did I say, y'all stole my show?
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  Speaker 3: We was ready to move with that until that show
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  Speaker 3: came about the show in New Orleans. I ain't saying
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  Speaker 3: that everybody comes up with something. If that's the case,
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  Speaker 3: then the book Cares from all the other shows was taken.
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  Speaker 1: Then all those things was taken away.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody comes up with something, But for a very long time,
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  Speaker 3: I have a lot of.
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  Speaker 1: People that could vouch for that.
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  Speaker 3: I have stuff for a long time that I put
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  Speaker 3: together that I've been wanting to do a show with women,
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  Speaker 3: to teach women from the beginning how you tere your
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  Speaker 3: life of you destroy yourself as an artist, and how
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  Speaker 3: to focus the longevity in this the dudes and the don'ts,
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  Speaker 3: the stuff that don't go on today. It is the
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  Speaker 3: things that I've been wanting to do with the artists.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to tell them what to do. I
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  Speaker 3: don't wrap, I don't sing, but I know how to
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  Speaker 3: get that money. We're not how to put those things together.
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  Speaker 2: When you when you so when the Bratt knew, right,
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  Speaker 2: so you guys have this idea, it doesn't work out,
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  Speaker 2: the network says no. You then go put your own
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  Speaker 2: idea at the same time you're pitching knees and you
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  Speaker 2: said that that Bratton knew that. What was the conversation
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  Speaker 2: y'all had when you told her, Hey, I'm doing Deb's
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  Speaker 2: house over here, here's what the idea is like.
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  Speaker 4: What was that conversation like then?
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  Speaker 3: Because it's Lauren, I don't want to sit up here
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  Speaker 3: and lie and say that I remember the full conversation,
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  Speaker 3: but there was blessings and she because she was going
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: to be on the show. She was going to be
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: on the show, and the network even knew that, but
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: she was doing the Breton Judy Show. And mind you,
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: at that time, Brett really didn't want her life out
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: there like that, so she was so focused on that,
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: and there was the wedding stuff.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: It was a lot of stuff that was going on left.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: I hope she don't get amnesia about the many things
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: that we talked about.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: But I can't shit, because that, to me, is personal.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: That was the conversation between us.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Okay, regardless of what's going on now, I'll take every hit,
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: I'll take whatever, but those.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Conversations that we had.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: Don't do this to me now to say that I
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: ran away and took something that we had.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: When I could bring a bunch of people that.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Know from twenty fourteen twenty thirteen start calling me about
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: this show that I pitched Billieve, I still could tell
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: you it's a whole bunch of people.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: I've been wanting to do this, damn it.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: John could tell you I've been wanting to do something
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: like this.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: This is nothing new for me. That was why I
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: went in.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: The way I went in for Nikki because It was
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: a big thing for.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Me with women. I wanted to have nothing but a
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: bunch of women that I could train. And that's just real.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take nothing from her. I'm not gonna ever.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: I would never disrespect Bratt like this. This will I
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: tell you, Will, I tell you, Lauren.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: This hurts me so bad.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: This hurts me so bad that it's like if she
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: did this when I knew the playgrounds that I'm playing on,
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: and I knew that some of the people that I
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: once would love will turn into my phone that I'm
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: gonna go through this. This is spiritual stuff that goes on. Okay,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: never did I see this from her. Her mother's a
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: beautiful person, you know what I'm saying. Her sister just
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: played my mom like. I got so much respect for her.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: It's pathetic. But for her to do this to say
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: I stole a show from her that I came up with,
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: mind you. Of course she put her say so with
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: effort because she didn't like the way I was doing it.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: But the brother's an artist. I'm not an artist. I
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: don't think the same way she thinks. We don't think
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: alike with some of that stuff. And it is just
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: as simple as that. I promise I didn't take nothing
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: from her.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: So she's watching this right now. I know you said
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: you reached out to her, she didn't pick up the phone.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: But if she's watching this, what were you gonna say
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: to her on the phone? What's your message to her?
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, why Brat?
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Why did you not call me? Why did you not
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: have a conversation with me? And that whole thing was stripted?
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I mean TV. I could tell my show too, was
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: not scripted. What you've seen was what you got.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: It was real, real time, no second takes at anybody
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: else on there. There was not one second take that
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: was on either one of those shows. And I got
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: People's Award the way I did it. The other show
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: would have been fighting. There would have been a whole
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: bunch of chaos because everybody was.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: So into love and hip hop. That ain't my thing.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: That's not it don't.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be that person, and I don't
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: want to keep being everybody's teeth either. I'm tired of
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: being like they come up with and come up with
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: something else.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: When you say being everybody's TV, you talking about the
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: whole you take in or still in conversation.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like this stealing.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: The other thing is stealing the artist, stealing the the
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: now I stole show.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Now you know.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: The week before it was Jacob Yorky's to I don't
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: even know that man to him to say he gave
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: me a job.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: He ain't give me no job. I ain't never worked
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: for you. I don't even know you.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Because your relationship with with Gucci. Man to remind people
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: who might not have you know, known him from the beginning,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: talk about like, actually, how that happened, because I know
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: that that's what they're talking about, what the artists did
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: with the you know Jacob york.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, so what he what he didn't lie about is
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Vicky did come to me about Gucci getting community service.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: I worked with children, okay, and at that time I
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: was doing lots of childers. I worked for the Department
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Family Trooper Services, working with Ludacris. Right that's before the
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Lucris Foundation even came up, and we were starting to
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: put that stuff together for the foundation. And Vicky came
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: to me and she said, Dad, she needed Gucci to
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: show up for some kids because he needed community service.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: But after that he wouldn't appalled me six o'clock in
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: the morning. You wanna go to breakfast, you wanna do this?
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: He was talking and we was coming up with like
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: a lot of ideas. Now he was gonna leave Bigcat,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: and as far as I knew, Jacob York was Big
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Cat's consulted But Big Cat got thirty five thousand for
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Gucci because they were trying to take Gucci. The network
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: was gonna just I'm knocking network. I'm sorry, the label
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: was just gonna take.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Gucci and he was gonna go and Kat got.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Thirty five thousand. Ain't no Jimmy Henchman did nothing. I
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: don't know where he got that from. Teddy is my
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: niece's father, So you know that's how that came about.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: For me to even get to Jimmy Henchman all the
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: rest of that stuff, I don't even know. I don't
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: even know Jacob Yorick. Honestly, I promise you I don't
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: know him.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: That man. Ain't never hired me for no job, to
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: be no product.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Man. I've never worked for anybody. Every one of these
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: people I did on my own. I ain't never had
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: no help.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I never had an investor, I never had nobody help me.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I never had any of it and stuff all those
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: artists I did on my own, on my own.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Don so the stories that people keep saying, you know, okay,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I took millions of took me. You never made millions
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: of dollars in this industry, and you never was signed
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: to Gucci.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Man he was signing me.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Gucci didn't want him signed. He told down and don't
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: sign him.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Wasn't there a lawsuit back in twenty thirteen before Gucci
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: got locked up that time with that Gucci had filed
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: with you, saying and he was saying that too, that
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: there was money taking.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I don't have it.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Listen, people came up with that story that said that
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: there was money that was taking.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: When me and Gucci.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Separated, Lauren, we separated with accountants.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Gucci said to me, Auntie, if I go into the rehab,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: would you help me have my own company? He said,
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I want people to respect like they'd be respecting you.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: I said, you gotta stay clean. When he did his
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: ninety and ninety, I never forgive me and my brothers
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: inside the air he got his chip and I hugged
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: him and I said, you're ready and that's when until
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: seventeen was built. Okay, that's when it was built. I
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: didn't take Sweetheart. I never had to take nothing from him.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Anything I've ever wanted that he had. If he had it,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: I could get it. He would do anything for me
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: at that time. Why he would run out and tell
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: that lie, I don't know, but he told me. He said, Auntie,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: I want to find a strong woman like you. And
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: I remember when Kisser used to come to different things
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: that we did. We did a childhood event. He curssed
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: that girl off so bad, and I cussed him out
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: to make her respect him, but not because I knew
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: they was gonna be together.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: He was actually with.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Somebody else at that time, but she was trying to
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: get with him. I know lots of stuff as far
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: as that of how she's trying to get in there to.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Get with him.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: When that book was written and they said this stuff,
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: I never read the book, but I've never heard him
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: say anything himself. But other people said, how did you
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: come in to say that she was doing something to me?
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: If there's a lawsuit that he found against me that
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: I stole from him, let people find it and find
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: where I stole from him at.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I've never seen the documents, but I know that there
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: was a TMZ story back in like that's what that's
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: what I'm referencing.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I know, I understand that, but I've never got no laws,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: suit papers. People. Okay, they needed me. I was a threat.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I don't want to seem like no.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: You know one thing, That's why I never wanted to
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: do I'm don't want to be let no damsel in distress.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Gee, Okay, because I can handle this ship. Trust me.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I can handle.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: It that you can hear.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Like they needed me out the way, and I'll have
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: a problem saying people's names because at that time, back then,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: I did the interview.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: That's why me and coach Kay didn get along.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, and Todd moster Woods know what he did to
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: pay get her out the way because they couldn't do
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: nothing to him that they wanted to do with me there,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: but they knew they could flash money because that's one
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: thing about Gucci is that money. He don't play with it.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Come to that money, right, That's one thing about him.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Get her out the way. Because I had too much influence.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: I was like the longest person, the person that you
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: listened to, the most we.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Were like Bonnie and Cloud. That was my partner.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: If I was a thiefist collecting money from records now
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: that belonged to both of us. There's things that belong
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: to both of us. I could have I could have
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: gotten that.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I have to be going after him.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: If it wasn't about money then And you might even
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: asked this question like thirty doosand times if it wasn't money,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: like what what is it disconnection with because it seems
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: like you know, you were there during the times that
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: people really wouldn't even ever understood what he needed and
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: you understood it?
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: What is it connection? Because I know you guys still
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: aren't in communication right?
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: No, No, what is it?
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: What's the issue? If the money thing didn't happen. There
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: was a lawsuit filing in twenty thirteen. I don't even
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: know what even happened with that, but you said you
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: didn't receive documents whatever. Was never any court proceedings ever anything?
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Nothing. I promise you on everything, I love.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: The only proceeding that I had to go to was
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: a girl trying to suit me for five thousand dollars
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: for being pregnant by him, and I was the manager.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: So I'm the person that handled everything at that time.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Other than that anything against him, it wasn't there. Lauren
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: put me in the room with everyone. I can stand
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: before anybody. I aint never took nothing from him, never, never,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: I ain't never done nothing but love on him.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: When nobody else wanted to be bothered, I was there.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: And that's the thing that gives me that how well
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: people forget the position that all these people were in.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: But I entered a lot of rooms.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: That he sold, a lot of that I got set
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: up to go into and not knowing what I'm going
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: into ms my life for these people, like every one
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: of them, I went through something with And that's just real,
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: like literally risk my life. How could you take from
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: people that didn't have anything?
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: All of them that I've gotten didn't have nothing and
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: lived with me. So what did I take?
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: What did I I'm trying to that, what did I
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: take from you?
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Your loved the under fields. I loved on them like
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: it was my own. It's hurt.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: I can't tell you a disconnect when you don't have
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: love for your own mother.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: And this is.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Something that I need to take heath to even with
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: each one of them, when you disrespect your own parents,
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: your own mother, and do the things that you do.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Then who are who am I? I still I still
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: be with his son to this day, the first son
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: that he had, still have a relationship with him, Still
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: have a relationship with his family.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: All in Alabama.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: All of them loved me.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Everybody too. We still have relationships.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: I still have loved I don't never want to see
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: anything happen to any of them.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: But why did you listen to people?
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: It's not them, it's the people that they were around
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: that did this stuff.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I'm so dirt on her. I watched one of them
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: call on the phone to what's her name? Huh, that's
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: all right there? Did I want to I want to
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: allow Lauren to get a question.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: I think we we we? Is there more you need
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: on the Gucci thing?
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Long?
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, I looked it up on
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: online on Pacer and according to the court record, it
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: was voluntarily dismissed by Roger Davis, which is Gucci man.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: So I was going to ask, do you like when
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: the dismissal happened? Like how did y'all get there?
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Because it's never got a paper.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to tell you I've never if
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: you see, I'm never was served.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Why would he voluntarily dismiss it?
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Why if I stole from him, why did he voluntarily
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: dismiss it.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I think people thought that there was a settlement of
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: some story at the time.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: I promise you, I promise you there wasn't. Why Why
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: was it voluntarily dismissed?
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: If I stole from him?
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Why so if there was a lawsuit, I promised Lauren,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: I don't have no papers.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I have no papers to that or nothing.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: When did he foul it and when was it dismissed?
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: So it was filed in November of twenty thirteen, and
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: it was dismissed in March of Yeah. The notice of
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: voluntary dismissal was submitted March twelve, twenty fourteen, by after
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: my birthday, Yeah, by Roger Davis and Michael Armor, who
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: I believe is yeah, was his representation at the time.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Is that the man that died? I wonder that.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: I'm not really sure if that's the lawyer that died,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: that took everything that I that he came back to
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: me and I had to go get all his stuff
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: back again for.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Him, So I don't I don't.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you that there was no settlement. I'll
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: tell you there was no settlement, none.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: None.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: I know you probably be tired of the music industry business.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you be doing these shows. This
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: is a lot here, huh.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: One of the things that I was told is the
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: playground that I'm dealing with. And I understand that, you know,
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: But I asked myself a lot of times, why do
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: you keep doing this?
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Why do you keep getting into this?
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: And my son just got on me the other day,
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: he said, my why you just don't go back to charity,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Like that's what I've seen you at your happiest when
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: you was doing for women and children and you were
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: doing things for them.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: But some kind of way, I felt I could save
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: us somewhat.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: That's a big problem now, gainst that's the prices in me,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like I feel like a save.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: And another thing is that I love women.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: That's so big for me, Like I really want us
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: to stand on what we need to stand on.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Like that's really big.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I want that unity with us, super big. Oh my god,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: this is so crazy. I feel this is not good
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: for me. I don't do this. I don't I can't
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: argue with people. I can't do this internet stuff. You
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: gotta watch the sound vices. People will take it and
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: run because the tensions being of people is so low.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: But I came in in the era when they didn't
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: have all of this, and I beat these streets for
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: these people. I went up against a lot of men,
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: a lot of men alone alone, to push my way
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: through to get these people the dreams that they had,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: each one of them. They all could recalled some serious situations.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: I don't been through the shootouts. I don't been through
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: it all.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I don't stop. I'd've been through the threats. I'd have
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: been to the oh, we don't deal with you.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: No more of you deal with this person than you
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: went from dealing with me to dealing with that person.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: And leaving me alone.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: All right, y'all? And that was part one of my
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: conversation with deb Anti music industry leader, manager, mother wife.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Known were artists like French Fontana, Gucci Minh and Jumnahs.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Just enhim a few.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: We'll be back in our next episode with some more.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: But I tell you, guys, every single episode, y'all could
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: be anywhere with anybody talking about all of these things
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: and the things, but y'all choose me right here with me,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: my Lowridings.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I'll catch you on my next one.