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7-30-26 Hour 2 - AFC West QBs/Finding excitement & motivation/Oh, By the Way... · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: Oh god, hey, one thing I've already noticed. It's I mean,
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  Speaker 2: tis the time of the year. Have you seen these
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  Speaker 2: guys going down with soft tissue injuries, non contact all
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  Speaker 2: over the league? I know it, but I'm watching. I
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  Speaker 2: go back to I go back to uh Broncos white
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  Speaker 2: out the back to the horn.
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  Speaker 1: Patrick, Tim Patrick?
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  Speaker 3: Really, Tim Patrick, you really, you really stuck it to
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  Speaker 1: The starts anything that you've said.
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  Speaker 2: The starts and stops right now are getting guys pretty
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  Speaker 2: big time. Just starts and stops and guys are guys
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  Speaker 2: are going down.
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  Speaker 1: All over the all over the league.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, did you see what happened to the Shamar Stewart
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  Speaker 1: in Cincinnati?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, cart it off with the leg injury. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: he I think he was hurt last year too, wasn't he.
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  Speaker 3: Was that story? Like he was? He was one of
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  Speaker 3: the rare holdouts, right remember first round picking. It was
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  Speaker 3: like a few weeks before the season started he still
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  Speaker 3: wasn't signed.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the new thing now is these hold ins. Jamiir
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  Speaker 1: Gibbs is a hold in. Vidave is a hold in?
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, if I'm trying to make more money, why
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  Speaker 3: would I give you money by being fined and trying
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  Speaker 3: to make more money?
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  Speaker 2: Where did I see that article? It was about VIDAVEA
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  Speaker 2: and the five most likely landing spots.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if his injury too, because he's a little
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  Speaker 1: banged up in camp. I wonder if that's just a
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  Speaker 1: mutual agreement. Okay, listen, we won't find you, but we
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  Speaker 1: don't need the distraction. Let's just say you're hurt. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The point is that one of the teams mentioned that
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  Speaker 2: he could be going to if he is treated as
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  Speaker 2: the Chargers, and I'd like to keep that guy away
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  Speaker 2: from the AFC West.
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  Speaker 3: You know what's crazy is and we mentioned this once before,
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  Speaker 3: but it bears repeating because somebody in the in the
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  Speaker 3: appetizer texted in and said, I want to see what
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  Speaker 3: Mahomes looks like after this knee injury, and see if
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  Speaker 3: he's the same. I think I saw the same videos
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  Speaker 3: you did. Looks the same to me. Now it's camp,
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  Speaker 3: but looks the same. And I thought to myself, Man,
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  Speaker 3: when did Tom Brady tearrors ACL? It's almost the exact
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  Speaker 3: same time. Tom Brady tore it when he was thirty.
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  Speaker 1: One, middle of his career.
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  Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes is at thirty. Then Tom Brady played for
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  Speaker 3: another fourteen years or something, And so I went back
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  Speaker 3: to damn if Mahomes does the same thing that Brady does,
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  Speaker 3: which is Tarror's ACL mid career. But he's fine. And
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  Speaker 3: Mendoza pans out as a number one overall draft pick,
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  Speaker 3: like he becomes what you drafted him for at number
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  Speaker 3: one overall. In ten years, I'll be forty six years old,
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  Speaker 3: And in ten years, at this exact moment, I could
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  Speaker 3: be speaking into a microphone saying bon Nick's is going
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  Speaker 3: to be playing against Justin Herbert, Patrick Mahomes in Fernana
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  Speaker 3: Mendoza this year, Like that's a real possibility. And what's
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  Speaker 3: funny is it all began with a bow Nicks discussion
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  Speaker 3: of bo Nix is a good quarterback. We know that
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  Speaker 3: he's a good quarterback. That much is at least certain.
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  Speaker 3: Now how good is a different discussion. And that's where
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  Speaker 3: you know, when you talk about twenty five percent of
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  Speaker 3: their drives in in three and outs like that is
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  Speaker 3: at least in some part, if not most part, a
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  Speaker 3: quarterbacks responsibility, their bet, their biggest job. Especially for Sean Payton,
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  Speaker 3: ask him, number one job for a quarterback is to
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  Speaker 3: do what pick up third downs, move the chains. That's
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  Speaker 3: what you're here for, keep time and possession in your favor,
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  Speaker 3: do all that stuff. And in the case of bow Knicks,
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  Speaker 3: because here's where it gets confusing. So they heard d
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  Speaker 3: MAC talking about this bo Nicks is he's won what
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  Speaker 3: twenty five twenty six games.
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  Speaker 2: Boatload of games in the National Football.
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  Speaker 3: One of the best in NFL history for a quarterback
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  Speaker 3: or two years. You know what else he's done. He's
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  Speaker 3: third in NFL history in touchdowns through his first two seasons.
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  Speaker 3: The only guys with more ore Justin Herbert was seventy seven.
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  Speaker 3: Dan Marino had seventy.
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  Speaker 2: So the why aren't we saying that this guy is
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  Speaker 2: an elite guy?
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  Speaker 3: Fantastic question? And that's what I'm talking about it and
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  Speaker 3: let me.
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  Speaker 1: It's because I think the default for a lot of
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  Speaker 1: folks is hey, but he plays with a great defense
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  Speaker 1: and that's helping him along the way.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, Vick, is it possible? I don't know how you
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  Speaker 2: feel about the way things are stacking up as we
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  Speaker 2: speak this second. But if Brett is correct and Mendoza
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  Speaker 2: pans out to be as good as an overall number
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  Speaker 2: one quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying he will, I'm just saying, hypothetically, hypothetically,
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  Speaker 4: is it possible that Bonnitz will play his entire career
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  Speaker 4: in the National Football League as the worst quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: In his division?
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  Speaker 3: We're never supposed to be like, he still got room
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  Speaker 3: to grow, understood held as anybody.
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  Speaker 2: You think he could he as good as Mahomes.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know what the most hold on. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you can make the argument last season he was the
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  Speaker 1: best quarterback in the division.
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  Speaker 2: You're right, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Talking about just overall.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that rank the quarterbacks in the AFC West right now.
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  Speaker 1: But would you rank him in seasons or do you
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  Speaker 1: rank him in careers? Did you rank him at the
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  Speaker 1: juncture of the career?
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  Speaker 3: Who would I take first? Okay, it's Mahomes, it's Herbert
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  Speaker 3: then Nicks than Mendoza because I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's the same things.
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  Speaker 2: And that's all I'm saying. I'm not saying that he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have a chance to be better than all of them,
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  Speaker 2: because I think he does. I think he does. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying right now, if you were picking, if you
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  Speaker 2: were saying, just I need to win this season on
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  Speaker 2: talent and whatever else you you whatever else you want
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  Speaker 2: to lay out there now. You want to talk about
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  Speaker 2: comeback building, you want to talk about grit, and you
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  Speaker 2: want to talk about determination and attitude. Hell, he might
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  Speaker 2: be second behind Mahomes. Hell he might even be number one.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I think Bonix has a lot
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  Speaker 2: of intangibles that Herbert probably doesn't have.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you this right now. This is where the
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  Speaker 3: Broncos are at. And this is why I think to
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people across the NFL, the Broncos were
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  Speaker 3: seen as a flash in the pan last year, and
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  Speaker 3: it's because of bow Knicks. And for this reason, I
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  Speaker 3: think that bo Nicks is comfortably in a category, at
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  Speaker 3: least in my head, where Brock Purdy and Jalen Hurts reside,
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  Speaker 3: which is I know they're good. I know they're good quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure how good because San Francisco is awesome
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  Speaker 3: and Philadelphia's awesome, and if it came down to those
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  Speaker 3: guys had to win a game based on their play,
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  Speaker 3: they had to be elite quarterback level in order to win.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what that team looks like, but I
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  Speaker 3: do know that they are good with a great roster
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  Speaker 3: around them, so their team is perennially in it.
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  Speaker 2: So if you put Rock Party on the Cincinnati Bengals
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  Speaker 2: last year, Falcons on the Falcons last year, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think the Falcons are twelve win team. I don't either.
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  Speaker 1: Bret Brett. The one thing we're not looking at there's
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  Speaker 1: so much. A lot of it has to do with
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  Speaker 1: the play caller quarterback relationship. And he's got a play
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  Speaker 1: caller there that really knows how to make him, tune
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  Speaker 1: him up, put it that way, sure, and same thing
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  Speaker 1: here in Denver.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's what's what's really difficult about San Francisco. Specifically,
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  Speaker 3: name a quarterback who hasn't looked awesome. And that's not
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  Speaker 3: like it's not anything against a guy like Brock Party,
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  Speaker 3: but when Party was hurt last year, and he was
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  Speaker 3: hurt for a while. Remember who played Mac Jones and
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  Speaker 3: played great. Mac Jones looked pretty awesome, and before that,
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  Speaker 3: Jimmy Garoppolo, same thing in LA looked great. Remember when
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  Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield had that stint in LA. Yeah, he looked
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  Speaker 3: great and revived his career.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, But some teams they just continue to deal with injuries.
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  Speaker 2: And again you're talking about when when those key players
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  Speaker 2: start to get injured, quarterbacks don't look so hot. So
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  Speaker 2: we'll see about Purty. But Ricky pearsall now I was
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  Speaker 2: reading he's not practicing because he's got swelling of the
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  Speaker 2: PCL in his right knee. You're like, God, Lee, all
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  Speaker 2: these guys, man, all these soft tissue injuries, Vick, it
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  Speaker 2: just makes me nervous. Well almost I almost wanted to
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  Speaker 2: take every Broncos key guy and bubble wrap him.
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  Speaker 3: Is what I'm saying. Though, A fair thing for bow
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  Speaker 3: Nicks if he's If you're one of those guys, you're
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  Speaker 3: a good quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: But the way that we do.
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  Speaker 3: The belief game in the NFL is elite quarterback is
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  Speaker 3: really the only thing that matters. That's the only thing
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  Speaker 3: that people trust the Chiefs will be good because Mahomes
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  Speaker 3: is good. And the Bengals will be good if Burrow's healthy,
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  Speaker 3: because Burrow is good. And you know, the Rams are
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  Speaker 3: gonna be good because Stafford is good. The Broncos will
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  Speaker 3: be at least okay because their defense is like, that's
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  Speaker 3: how we do the math. Yeah, find a way to
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  Speaker 3: elevate from there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, consistency, find more consistency. But that it feels a
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  Speaker 2: little bit unfair to knit because of what he has accomplished.
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  Speaker 2: You're right, the defense has been spectacular.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody's bringing up Trey Lance, by the way in San Francisco,
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  Speaker 3: saying he sucked. Well, maybe that's just because Trey Lance
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  Speaker 3: is terrible. I just named Mac Jones, Jimmy Garoppolo, and
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  Speaker 3: Brock Purty the last pick in the draft. All of
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  Speaker 3: those guys seem to work in San Francisco. Trey Lance didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe he just stinks.
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  Speaker 2: Play that played that Sesame Street song, vic sing it.
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  Speaker 1: One of these things is not like the Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Which one is different? Do you know? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I don't watch cartoons.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you've seen Sesame Street, don't.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't grow up watching that stuff. I grew up
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  Speaker 1: watching like CNBC History Channel, Smithsonian Channel.
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  Speaker 2: Led Dawson go to a history book.
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  Speaker 3: I would love vic. What's the mad money guy? What's
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  Speaker 3: his name? That crazy person? Jim Kramer, Jim Kramer Vick
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  Speaker 3: at three year old, three years old watching Jim Kramer.
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  Speaker 3: This is a stock you must buy now.
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  Speaker 1: You have to.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, isn't that guy terrible?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 3: Is that his predictions? But he's at a show forever. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's the thing you can do.
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  Speaker 1: You just have to be bombastic enough. Yeah, you just
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  Speaker 1: gotta yell.
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  Speaker 3: I'm upgrading from don't buy to maybe don't buy?
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  Speaker 1: WHOA, that's a job?
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  Speaker 3: Like, well, you know what, we aren't grade at our jobs.
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  Speaker 3: We've been here for a while, we've been here for
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  Speaker 3: a minute. We have every year an award show that
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  Speaker 3: says our worst predictions.
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  Speaker 2: Of the year.
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  Speaker 1: We're pretty bad at I got a buddy of mine
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  Speaker 1: who's a day trader and that's all he does. Playing
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  Speaker 1: golf one day and he brought his laptop with him
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  Speaker 1: and he's out on the golf course with his laptop
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, wait, wait, no, excuse me, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta have it nearby. I go, how can you
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  Speaker 1: even enjoy yourself. How is this joy to you? Between
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  Speaker 1: every shot you're looking at your screen.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. I downloaded one of those apps
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  Speaker 3: and I just jumped on penny stocks. It's an addictive thing.
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  Speaker 3: And when you're doing penny stocks, if the stock rises
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  Speaker 3: five hundred, you've made a dime. But to me, I
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  Speaker 3: was like, dude, this is on the rise.
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  Speaker 1: I made it right. This is the right decision. How
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  Speaker 1: are you researching your your choices?
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  Speaker 3: Just kind of what looks cool to me? Honestly, what
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  Speaker 3: I did is I would find one. I would find
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  Speaker 3: one that's been like in decline for three straight months
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  Speaker 3: and it's almost bottomed out, and I'll be like, well,
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  Speaker 3: the worst that could happen is I lose five cents
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  Speaker 3: if it jumps up, you know, twenty cents a share.
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  Speaker 3: Now I'm making fifty bucks. Vic I've been in the
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  Speaker 3: red ever since I started, Just so you know, I
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  Speaker 3: still do jim okay, So everything's relative, right, stealing any
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  Speaker 3: word from Coach Peyton.
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  Speaker 1: So the stock market, some would say, what's the difference
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  Speaker 1: between playing the stock market and playing you know, sports gambling,
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  Speaker 1: same thing you're betting on, guessing and then this prediction
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  Speaker 1: market comes into effect, and now I'm completely lost relative
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  Speaker 1: to because I have no idea what this is.
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  Speaker 3: So the prediction market, I think, is just you gambling
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  Speaker 3: against other people?
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  Speaker 2: Is It's not.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like a company, and there's not like a
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  Speaker 3: a an odds maker or a book that you're betting against.
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  Speaker 3: It's like you're betting. Moser thinks that the Broncos are
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  Speaker 3: making the playoffs. I don't, and that's how the money
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  Speaker 3: gets exchanged.
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  Speaker 1: So how is that legal compared to some of the
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  Speaker 1: other things that are illegal?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, why why is that legal? But
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  Speaker 2: you can't have a frigging bingo bingo game at the
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  Speaker 2: Mount Carmel Feast.
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  Speaker 3: I told you guys this, why Yeah, let me ask
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  Speaker 3: you this.
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  Speaker 1: Why did they eliminate Chuck a Luck at Mount Carmel
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  Speaker 1: Feast Because they felt that the gaming authority here in
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  Speaker 1: Colorado founded a thread. Give me a break, it's Chuck
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  Speaker 1: a Luck at a church. Give it a rest.
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  Speaker 3: I told you guys, there's a Reddit post with a screenshot,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't know if this is still around or not.
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  Speaker 3: Goes it's the greatest hack ever and what you can
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  Speaker 3: bet on one of those calshy sites. What what'd you
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  Speaker 3: call him?
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  Speaker 1: Vic?
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  Speaker 3: What are those sites called? Prediction mark prediction markets? And
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  Speaker 3: it was will Jesus come back to Earth? And he goes,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna vote no, because if he doesn't, I win.
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  Speaker 3: If he does, money doesn't matter anyway. It's the ultimate
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  Speaker 3: chie pretty much. And I was like, I've taken a
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  Speaker 3: couple of shots here at betting against nuns and stuff
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  Speaker 3: like that. Better I'm gonna I'm a little bit on that.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna, you know, push this too far here.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: That was just good natured fun of a basketball.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm not good natured fun to make make
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: fun of one hundred and three year old nuns and
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: bet and bet against her. I can't believe you. Nothing
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: struck down yet. I can't believe it.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: I want you to repeat what I said to you
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: when I put that hundred dollars on the table when
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: we were there at that sports book. I put one
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: hundred dollars down. And what did I say like that,
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: nun No no, no, no, no no no. I said,
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: let's let God decide. And God decided I win one
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: hundred dollars. That's what happened. Because he has a sense
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: of humor and he hated Loyola Chicago. Uh three oh
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: three five four O nine.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: I can't believe your breathing ear back after this?
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: What are the odds?
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: This isn't any way real?
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: I'd say like ten thousand to one.
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: Okay, I'd like ten bucks on those odds. If someone
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: gives you ten thousand to one on anything, you take it.
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: If John Mellencamp ever wins an Oscar, I am going
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: to be a very rich dude.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: What's the longest shot you've ever bet on? Vic?
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Huh?
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: What is the have you ever? You don't strike me
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: as a big gambling guy, though.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I am not a sport. I've done a little bit
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: here and there. But the only betting I told you,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: the only betting I do, he's on the golf course
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: when I control the results. Correct.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: I used to years ago when the Super Bowl roll around,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: I would always grab like super Bowl MVP and grab
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: somebody like that's five thousand to one or something like that,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: because I just remember whoever that guy was in Tampa
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: back in John Gruden's Bucks Super Bowl.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Remember that Johnson?
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, it was the defensive back who won it though, right,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: didn't some guy have like two picks and a pick
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: six or something like that for the Bucks that won
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl MVP.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: God, I remember that now that yeah, Larry Brown, I
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: remember the defensive back for Dallas winning at the year
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: that they'd beat Pittsburgh. But I do recall in that
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Tampa game.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Dexter Jackson.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, if I can find a Dexter Jackson
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: in here somewhere, I will be a rich man.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: See. I don't need that extra And people say they
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: need that extra pull to be into the game.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't need it either.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: What's wrong with the game? You know? Like when people
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: say that I got something writing on this one because
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: you know I need I need that extra attraction.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Well, I think it's more to maybe give you a
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: rooting interest, you know what I mean. If you're watching
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: like a huge game and it's a football game, you're like, oh,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: maybe I just want to have something to root for.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Here, Okay, Yeah, I mean I can't be hypocritical because
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I cannot play around the golf. If you're not betting something,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: It's like, what's the point what are we doing? We
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: need to compete, right, It's a competition I yearn for.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: It's not the actual game. Sure, Like when people go
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: play golf by themselves, I don't get that.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: I can't do that either. I don't get It's like
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: going to a movie by myself. I can't do that.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: What am I doing? I can't compete against my I mean,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I guess I can, but it's not the same.
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: And Brett, an answer to your question, i'd say about
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: excuse me, moser lefs and now I have to be
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: the one to have the frogs in my throat. About
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: four years ago, I was in Vegas and I went
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: to a sports book and I just threw like ten
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: bucks on a crazy futures bet. It was SEU to
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: win the Pac twelve championship in football, and it was absurd.
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: It was like three thirty thousand to one or something,
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: and I just said, you know what, I'm just gonna
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: throw like ten bucks on this on the zero point
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: zero zero, zero zero one percent chances hits.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Drinks thrown me boys.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: So you know what's crazy?
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Vic.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Back in like twenty eighteen, before I even moved here,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: I was at a sportsbook in Council Bluff's, Isowa and
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: the only reason I would ever go to that guy
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: for saken time? And I threw down a bet on
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Will Barton. We're watching a Nuggets game, Will Barton to
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: make the first basket. It was like eighty to one
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: and immediately one on the first shot of the game
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: one hundred sixty bucks.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, like.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: It was something something about just that the quick sort
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: of yeah, and it's gotta be for me a long
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: shot like that because I want to feel some sort
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: of adrenaline.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Pot I'm surprised that no one has come up with
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: some prediction market wagers on this show, like, at what
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: point in the show will the first slight of Mosure
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: be heard? When will Moser's first slight take place? Seven two,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: seven to ten?
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Oh god, dude, it would have to be less than
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: ten minutes on it over under, wouldn't it like nine
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: and a half? And that might even be too high.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Just give me people ideas.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Textures are saying when did going to sit in a
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: dark room and watch a movie become a group event?
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Another texture says going to a movie by yourself is incredible.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I've never I mean it might be, and I don't
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: begrudge you from doing that. I've never once been to
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: a movie by myself. I did it one time. It's
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: when I first moved, tears before.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: My wife moved out, because she came like four months
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: after I moved, and I went to see that free
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: solo movie that that uh Alex Donald guy scaling el cap.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: It was fine, but it was like, I feel like
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: that's an experience that like you wanna like maybe talk
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: about what's going on in the movie with somebody or something.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: It felt I felt lonely, is what I felt like.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: I a lout of a movie in the basement by myself.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: But if I'm going somewhere to watch it, that feels weird.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: What's the difference between watching a movie by yourself at
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: home and going to a movie by yourself. It's the
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: same thing. You don't have anybody to talk to about it.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, I would you much rather go to a
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Broncos game with somebody or watch the game by yourself?
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Oh? Those people around you games, these people that go
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: by themselves to games all the time. That's that's the community.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: That's their community.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: That's the point understood. But if I'm like, hey, I'm
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: going to the Nuggets game, tonight. Who are you going with?
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Nobody? You just feel around you, you've been there before. Again.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: That's their community. That's the beauty of sporting events.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: That's why I tell people sports is the great elixir
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: in society because it brings people from every walk of life,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: every political side of the aisle, every religion, every creed, everything,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: and you're there, all of you cheering for the same cause.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: It's awesome.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Can I tell you a story real quick about movies
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: and the opposite not going by myself. So I took
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: it was I was in high school, stayton. This girl
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: took her to a movie I think was four Christmases.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: It was around Christmas, so comedy movie. So we're sitting
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: in the back left portion of the theater. It's only
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: got three seats to a row. And I picked that
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: acause I was like, all right, cool, even though it's
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: three seats, will just not be around other people. It's
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: just us two. And then in this theater that was
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: not full, plenty of seats, this old man who went
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: to the movie by himself, sat right next to me,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: and VIC has the movies going on. A funny part
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: would come and he would laugh and elbow me, like
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: we went to the movie together. You went, and I'm like,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: I'm with my girlfriend.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Leave me alone.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: He's like sixty years.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Old now on the other side of the ledger.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, I get that that would be a lot, but
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: that's weird.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Okay. There are also some things in life that you
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: would prefer to do by yourself. Correct Like I'll give
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: you an example. Yesterday I rode look Out and I
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: have friends all the time. Hey, let's go exercise riding.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't exercise.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: I like doing that.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I don't like. I don't like lifting with people. I
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: don't like working out with people.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I don't like.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: It's nothing against him, it's just that.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: You're in his zone.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I don't want to get distracted, like doing the cycling,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: everybody wants to talk. I'm tired. I don't want to talk.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Un Plus, you're like, maybe you're listening to music and
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: then somebody talks to you and you have to do this
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: thing pick your headphone up, y'all.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Huh huh. Yeah, I'm totally with you on that. Occasionally
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I'll go with the pack. It's it's a social excersion.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Like I've never understood this running like these group runners.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Oh god, I have I run a lot, but I
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: have never once understood running with a group of people
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: and talking while you run? What is going on? Well?
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: Who is just you?
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: You don't want that the whole time for you, victim.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Well, I especially don't do it because I'd be the
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: guy who's slowing you down. And I don't want to
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: be that guy either. I'm like, hey, I gotta take
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: a break for a second, and then you got to
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: start walking with me. Now, just go.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: I'm with you.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Though, basically everything you've said, either people or singles or
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: going by yourself whatever, I'm pretty much on board with
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: everything you've said.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: When you work out, isn't the goal to push yourself
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: as hard as you possibly can to improve yourself.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: I don't even like a trainer. I don't even like
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: I did that a couple of times. I hate having
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: a trainer. I'm like, I know what I'm doing. I
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: don't need you to know it.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Ten No, I'm telling you right now. A trainer, though,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: sometimes is gonna push you to places you don't know
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: longer you don't go.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: You know what, I'm not playing in the NFL, Okay,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I'm just trying to get a little workout in.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I don't need this.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: I'm just trying to get in a little bit better shape.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to look like Jason Momoa.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: So but Brett.
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: I will say though, during during COVID, you know when
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: when all the gyms were closed and I was trying
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: to get into the home workout scene. I loved those
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: home workout videos because I need Sean t yelling at me,
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: going you can do more, you funny, because without that,
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: I'm just gonna stop.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I couldn't do that home.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: See all these people do the pelots now I've never
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: I've never done peloton, but I can't get motivated by
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: the person on the screen saying, Nisa, come on, stay
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: with me.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: You know what's funny, Though, I've been on this kick lately,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Steve O. I've been on this YouTube kick home workouts
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: in forty five minutes, like hard home workouts and forty
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: five The problem with those when you go to YouTube
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: and you do that, they're hard, but there's always two
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: long commercial breaks of about ninety seconds, and you're like,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: what do I do now?
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: All right before punch three thousand see your word from
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: our sponsors.
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: And it's probably gonna cut in in the middle of
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: one of your exercise right in the middle. Yeah, so
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: you're doing high knees and then oh something something about
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: getting a new couch.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm.
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: Ngel.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: It's just Sarah McLaughlin and Bumpy.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: But there's a hard dude, because again that goes back
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: to that trainer thing, Brett. When you work out by
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: yourself and that's all I've ever done, and then you
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: have somebody push you. And that's why I've been doing
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: these videos. My legs have been jello. He's having me
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: do things I've never done before.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Here's the thing, Vic, Because he's not in front of you,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: you can always.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Just turn him off.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's true.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Hey, just quickly, what do you think about this? A
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: report from Logan Murdoch of The Ringer, The Warriors decided
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: not to trade for Jailer Brown because they felt he
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to carry the franchise after Steph Curry retires.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Should they have gotten in on the Jalen Brown sweepstakes. Well,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: The Warriors had an opportunity to trade for the former
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Celtic before the deadline in February, but couldn't build an
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: organizational consensus. That Brown would be the right player to
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: carry the Warriors beyond the Curry era. Here's what's funny
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: about that. To me, true or false, Lebron James is
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: not a seventy six er. If they don't trade for
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Jalen Brown.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I'd say true, me.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Too, tru or false, Golden State becomes a lot more
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: appealing as a destination for Lebron James if they traded
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: for Jalen Brown. True.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Of course, Lebron wants to go to a ready made team.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: And the fact that the Warriors are thinking post Steph Curry,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: and this is what becomes very difficult. You've lived this
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: with the Broncos now twice. When you have a player
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: that is considered an all timer, yeah, and you start
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: thinking about life beyond the all timer. You can't be
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: thinking I'm finding an all timer right away, can you?
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Because it's probably not gonna happen.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: It's always going to be a transition period and you
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: just have to be you have to understand it's coming,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: you know. The It's funny, who are the teams that
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: have done that? By the way that transitioned.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Like the one that sticks out to me most is
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: the Packers went from Farv to Rogers.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Well, uh, and the Niners from Montana to Young But in.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: The NBA, how many teams have had like the Bulls
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: didn't go from Jordan to Lebron, Like that didn't happen.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, maybe not one after another. But the
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Lakers have reinvented themselves with superstars for years.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: True, I would say that they're the rare case of
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: the I mean, when you're the Lakers, you can now.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Kobe Lebron Lucas. That's just in the last twenty years.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: That is the Lakers, which is different. You tell me,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: does Golden State keep the cachet, the namesake that they
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: have right now when Carey leaves or do they go
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: back to being the Golden State Warriors that had like
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Monte Ellis.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: It's a great question because the ownership group there now
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: understands the value of winning and maybe they spend, maybe
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: they're a little more aggressive maybe you know with this.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: And plus they're in San Francisco now, they're no longer
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: across the Bay. Yeah, so they're in a new spot.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: It's a great question. Uh. San Antonio has never been
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: the same. Once San Antonio tastes success that they've they've changed,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: that change a franchise, true, And frankly, I think the
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Nuggets have changed. The Nuggets finally got to the mountain top,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: and I think expectations here now changed. When the expectations
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: of what is at the top shelf changes, everything change.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: But does your does your status within the league change?
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Here's the question. Vic. Hopefully a decade from now, it's
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: that long. Jokiic hangs it up, says, you know what,
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: my career is over. I'm going back to Serbia. I
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: don't think the Nuggets just because they had Jokic become
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: a team where it's like a superstar now it's to
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: play for the Nuggets afterwards.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Well, no, we're seeing that right now. It's extremely difficult
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: for the Nuggets who attract free agents here. I will
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: ask you again, the Denver Nuggets have been in operation
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: for fifty years. Let's just call it fifty years. The
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: biggest name free agent this city has ever landed to
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: play basketball is who.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Millsap?
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Paul Millsap. That's the biggest name free agent in fifty years.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: That's not a knock on the franchise, that's a fact.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Alen Iverson got here into trade.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Do sign and trades count as free agency because it
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: kind of is.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Though no, not really no, because they wouldn't come here
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: if it wasn't. For deals have to.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Work, but they also have to agree to a deal.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Like if if.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: There's a sign in trade for Peyton Watson to Milwaukee,
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Peyton Watson is signing off to go play Milwaukee.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Sure, but if he was an unrestricted free agent and
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: other teams had a chance to lobby for him, he
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: would be a little more nippicking.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: True, that is true. Next point, good point, Good point.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: It's just it's something I don't know.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Do the Warriors?
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Are they? Nian Martin? People keep saying, Kenya Martin, he
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: was a sign in trade. Go back, go back that.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Let me see him.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Double check on that because he was a sign and trade.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: I've looked it up.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: He was side.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: So that's why I asked, does that go?
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying moving forward that that's going to
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: be the same. But for example, last year, how how
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: happy were we when Tim Hardaway Junior chose Denver.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: For a minimum? Remember that, I mean somebody says happy
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: we were? Westbrook is a bigger name than Millsap and
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: name wise, yes, but at that point in his career.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, not, that's a very good point by whoever sent
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: that in. Westbrook name obviously means everything. But at the
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: end of his career.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Noil steps getting thirty a year, Westbrook was playing for
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: the minimum.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Now, yeah, it just doesn't happen. It does get murky though.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: If the Nuggets signed Lebron James, it might be a
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: minimum contract. That's the biggest signing effort of course.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. See in what stuns me? And no
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: one can answer this question for me. I've asked it
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: so many times on this radio show. I've asked it
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: in different forms. How is it that the other franchises
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: in Denver are able to sign top notch, high profile
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: free agents all the time and the Nuggets in that
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: department always struggle. Why look at the Broncos Are you
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: kidding me? Peyton Manning's the biggest name free agent in
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: the history of the league. The Avs free agents, Huh,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: there's so many you can't even count.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: I think it's because it's the same reason the Rockies
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: can't do it. It's when you have two plus decades
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: of organizational success and people grow up knowing that your
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: team is good. I really think that's a factor, along
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: with some other things.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: But explain Miami. Then. Miami wasn't exactly a winning city
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: in basketball, and they's.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Because it's Miami. It's the beach, it's it's everything else
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: that comes with Miami. I mean, it's the same thing
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: as New York. New York could be terrible forever, but
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: you want to live in New York City, la same
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: thing now, Okay, see thunder. It's gonna take a minute
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: before people start to buy into that, you know what
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: I mean. NFL is weird though the NFL you can
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, people see the Packers as a destination place.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: It's Green Bay, Wisconsin. I mean, but anything it has
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: to do with a long track record of success as
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: an organization. That's how they can overcome it. Three h
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: three five, four h nine two five. Oh by the way, next, Oh,
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: by the way, where's around sports in the world. We
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: feel like you should be aware of Nelly. I sent
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: you something earlier that was on ESPN a couple of
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: days ago, and I want to you know, there's a
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: there's a potential battle in training camp across the NFL
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: this year, and I don't buy it at all. But
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: supposedly it's between JJ McCarthy and Kyler Murray in Minnesota. Dick,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: I think we're on the same page. If we're doing
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: the prediction market thing. Kyler Murray is starting in Minnesota, right.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Looks that way.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I got one more thing to add to it.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: You remember Adam Thielen, longtime Minnesota Viking, went to the
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Panthers for a couple of years. I think maybe played
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: for a couple of different teams, but.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: He went to television.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Now, remember he requested a trade last year mid season, saying, Hey,
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: I just want to go back to Minnesota. I want
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: to finish my career there. So they trade him back
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: mid season. He's now an ESPN analyst, and he said
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: this about the situation of Minnesota. But what about what
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Jeff just said there about he thinks it's leaning toward
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Kyler Murray.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: I think it's Kyler Murray, j Lews I do. I
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: think it's Kyler Murray's job right now. But if JJ
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: comes and shows up and shows exactly what he wasn't
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: doing well last year, and he shows first of all,
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: when you see JJ in person and you're around him,
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: you want to be around him he's a great leader,
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: he's fun to be around. He's just like this guy
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: that everyone just loves. So at the end of the day,
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: they drafted him in the first round. They want him
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: to have success. So if he comes and shows it,
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: he could win that job. But right now it's Kyler's job.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: For a guy who played with JJ McCarthy and not
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: with Kyler Murray to say it's Kyler Murray's job, I
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: think tells you all you need to know, right I would.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Say so, And I don't think anybody's surprised by that.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: And I don't know what it is about JJ McCarthy
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: that rubs people the wrong way. Is it just the
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: way he plays? I don't know. Oh, he was a guy.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: He was terrible, and he was a little corny. I
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: think it's what it was like. He's the guy Vick
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: who says, when I'm on the football field, I'm not
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: JJ anymore. I'm nine.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: It's like, all right, Oh, by the way, we saw
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: this one coming because we heard about the cameras following
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: them around. Lebron James is in talks right now. It's
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: almost a done deal. He and ESPN are producing a
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: documentary series very similar to what the last dance was
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: for MJ. They're doing one for Lebron his entire career.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Look entirely unsurprising. Lebron signed a two year deal though, right.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know what that second year is
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: for outside of running it back if they win at all,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: who knows. I think this is it.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: This is the last one. We've said that for the
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: last ten years. No, this bleep bring will not go
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: on for much longer. What do you think about this?
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: VIC?
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: The PGA Tour is going to debut something new on
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: ESPN Plus for this week's Rocket Classic, starts today. It
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: is a commentary freestream, so no announcers, no announcers showing
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: the golf.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I've always hated that, and maybe clearly I'm biased, but
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I can't watch a sporting event without announcers. I need
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: to know what's going on. I need someone, and maybe
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: I'm lazy, I don't know. I need someone tell me
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: what's happening.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: But here's what you can hear. Obviously, crowd reactions and
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: natural course audio, but they're going to focus on those
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: and player caddy conversations.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Now that's awesome. See that's different. Now, if you fill
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: that dead spot with player caddy talk. That's great, Like,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: it's a different deal.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: You know, how was it the XFL or the UFL.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Maybe they did the the announcers would shut up for
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: like thirty seconds and you could hear what the play
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: caller was saying into the sheet, Like.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I think that's awesome.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: If you can't be a stream of that, I would
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: listen to that.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I mean, but I mean the way you
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: you first reported that, I thought it was just the
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: sounds of birds chirping and guys hitting goll shots.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: We've all had this before, You're We've all watched a
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: game or for whatever reason and the audio cuts out
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: of the feed for a few minutes and all you're hearing,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: like in a basketball game, is just the squeaks of
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: the shoes on the court. But the player caddy conversation.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I think it's pretty neat idea. Actually.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, yesterday we talked about college football,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: college sports and how the haves and have nots. I
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: think it's a bigger divide than ever we got into
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: that debate. Well, Penn State has made its fiscal budget.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: It's made it public and now you can see where
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: money is spent and lost. So Penn State has a
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: bunch of sports under the umbrella, like many institutions do.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: In fact, they they run twenty seven sports at Penn
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: State University. How many of those sports make money?
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Well, the fact that I don't even know if football
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: does anymore. I would assume it probably does, but I
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: don't know how much money they spend on it.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. So football makes money for them.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: They made fifty seven million dollars in football last year.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Men's basketball makes money. They made one hundred and seventy
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: two thousand dollars. Okay, the twenty five other sports that
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: the university operates, and this is important because this is
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: why it's hard to get the privatization of college sports,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: because it's a money loser. The twenty five other sports
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: at Penn State lose.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Money every rising upwards of let's see, just name a sport,
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Name a sport.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you. Men's tennis loses seven hundred and sixty
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year. Let's see men's hockey loses two
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: point three million a year. Their women's basketball program loses
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: four point seven million dollars. Adam Damn so again for
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: everybody that says, I don't understand why you just can't
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: run college sports as a business. This is why businesses
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: aren't out there to lose money.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Well, they're subsidized by the other sports, is what happens. Yeah,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: but there's Yeah, I mean, it's pretty clear it's been
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: that way for a long time that basketball and football
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: are really the only money makers because they're really the
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: only sports that get you know, in football, eighty thousand
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: people in basketball and eighteen thousand a night that show
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: up and pay. Now, there's few exceptions, Like I think
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Nebraska's volleyball team makes money.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure du hockey makes money. It depends
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: on where you are, right, Yeah, of course, school to school.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: The exceptions are made. Yeah, but by and large, those
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: are the two sports that make money. I know, women's
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: college basketball makes money in a ton of places Texas
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: or does Yeah, Yukon it's a money maker in a
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: lot of those places. Penn State not so much.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: A couple things real quick. Luka Doncic is hosting the
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: entire LA Lakers roster in Slovenia for a four day
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: mini camp in August. Source told ESPN. The itinerary includes workouts, golf,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: some tourism, bonding, all that stuff. Here's my question. If
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Lebron is still on the Lakers, are they doing that.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: No, no way right, nope or maybe they nope completely different.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: You know, I God, I caught winted some stuff. I
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: caught wint to some good stuff on on the Lakers.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: And do you remember how quickly they got to Walker
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Kessler when restricted free agency arrived. Supposedly, Luca has been
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: recruiting him all year, like all year, you knew that
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: he was going to become a restricted free agent. They
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: became friends somehow, some way. He wanted that Alley ooper
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: at the end of his drives. You know what Luca does, Well,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: he'll pump fake, He'll go to the hole, he'll look
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: at the floater and then guy will come up to
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: guard him and he'll throw a quick oop to who's
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the dude on.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: The MAVs he did that with all was a.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Gafford all the time. Yeah, yeah, they had two dudes.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: He did it all the time. But I mean, he
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: loves that movie. And so the the Canard and not Canard.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: The Walker Kessler signing that was again, that was a
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: done deal before it was a deal, and lebron knew it.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Lebron knew it, and it just took that long for
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: him to make the announcement that he's leaving LA. I
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: don't know if he left La or was shoved from LA.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Put it that way.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: One last story, real quick. This comes out of Montana.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: So a hiker went up Montana's tallest mountain, okay, and
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: he had the walking sticks. Something happened. He fail fell.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: He impaled himself with the walking stick. It's stuck inside
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: on the side of his body, kind of like outside
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: the arm this little media area underneath your armpit, stuck
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: in there. He hiked ten miles down the mountain because
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: he didn't want to pay for the metavac of a helicopter,
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: which one thing says about you know our health system
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: here in the country, sure, but also.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Pretty bad ass.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Just got something sticking in your body, and you're like,
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna hike down this mountain. Make sure that I'll
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: just you know, I'll take myself to the hospital.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. My my buddy, rich Apple was
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: sledding with his grandkids and the sled got a little
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: out of control and he ran into a tree and
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: he sends me a picture. He's at the hospital. He
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: has a branch going through his neck. What, yes, right
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: through his neck and I said, he said, no, I
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: couldn't pull the branch out because you don't know what happens, right,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: So he shows up there he's got a branch in
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: his neck.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, DoD is he lucky? Tell me that
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: when you're saying, like the very side of the neck
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: over you.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Ever had attack in your foot?
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Dude, I stepped on one. This sound that it made,
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: it's a.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Puncture wound that you can hear like it can achilles popping.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Dude.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: It sounds like a gunshot because I literally took a
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: step and it went and it was right in the
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: middle of my heel and it out.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: You know, it's funny.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: It happened to me, and I'm gonna I'm gonna say
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: that's the equivalent of getting shot. So for street cred,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: I've been shot before.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: If you guys have never taken like a little thumb
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: tack through the foot.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: It the sound heel of the foot is the worst.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's what I got. This sound that it
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: makes it shots. It almost scares you more than the pain.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: So you and I've been shot. We've been shot.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Yes, of course I want to start making those thumbtack guns.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Hey uh, If you guys want to go to Garth Brooks, well,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: then stay tuned and listen to the Jeff Lagwilding interview.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: I'll explain more after next