Latest / Tribe and Tribulations With Julia Makowsky / Finding Hashem Everywhere: Faigy Blumstein on Purpose, Gratitude & the Thank You Hashem Movement
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- 0:00If I'm not in this care world, like a kohal experience, and I'm just doing work, then what's my purpose here?
- 0:06When everything's lined up and everything's working, you don't need meaning.
- 0:10It's working, it's clicking, it's good.
- 0:12I almost felt like I didn't have an anchor, and I think that's where Fasida's grounded me, and it's like, Figi, you can find Hashem everywhere.
- 0:21He's with you when you're getting your kids off.
- 0:23He's with you when you're at work with your job that's not necessarily Torah-related.
- 0:26Yeah.
- 0:27And don't think because you're not sitting in front of a sefer and doing Kirib 24 hours a day and hosting Shabbatones and going to Poland and Prague and bringing people to concentration camps.
- 0:35Don't think for one second that you're less than because every single thing that you're doing is worthy of having Hashem sitting right next to you.
- 0:44Welcome back to Tribe and Tribal Relations.
- 0:46I am Julia Makowski, and I am so happy you are here.
- 0:49Today we are joined by Fagy Blumstein, who,
- 0:54You might know her from all of her incredible work with Thank You Hashem, but she is so much more than just the queen behind the mission.
- 1:05Feige has a full team behind her, but she is one of the many voices of our generation who are bringing Torah and Hasidus to the world.
- 1:16And we are so grateful you are here.
- 1:19Thank you so much for having me.
- 1:20This place is beautiful.
- 1:22It's my greatest pleasure.
- 1:23I could stay here all day.
- 1:24Good.
- 1:24Well, you can't because we only have a certain amount of time, but I'm so glad you are here.
- 1:29Fakie, tell me a little bit about yourself.
- 1:33Tell me about what people don't know.
- 1:36Whoa.
- 1:37Okay, so where do we start?
- 1:38Do we, like, go all the way back?
- 1:40So, for those of you that don't know, Figgy is not only a mother and runs parts of TYH...
- 1:50In general, she's also a school psychologist.
- 1:53She is also a mom.
- 1:56She is also a Tanya teacher, a Hasidus teacher.
- 2:00Like she has so many roles.
- 2:01So we're only going to focus on a few of them here because we could be here all day otherwise.
- 2:06Right.
- 2:07Right.
- 2:09So talk to me a little bit about how you first started in your journey to Hasidus, to Kirov, to all the things.
- 2:20Because honestly, I so align with a lot of the work you do.
- 2:24It's very moving for me.
- 2:26Oh, I'm so happy.
- 2:27I'm like so happy to hear when like people are aligned with it because I'm like sometimes I think like we're just doing this like in our basement and like putting out content.
- 2:34And then like when I hear from everybody like they're growing and they're learning with this, it's like like it feels so good.
- 2:40The best.
- 2:41So I would say like my whole like journey, I guess, like in the cure of outreach world first started when I got married.
- 2:48I always was like.
- 2:50I don't know, I just always say I was the mora.
- 2:52I was the ultimate teacher.
- 2:54I didn't take good notes, but I would get photocopy notes from my friends, and then I would call everybody over and be like, come over, I'm going to teach it to you.
- 3:01And that, I found, was the only way that I absorbed and integrated information was by me teaching it.
- 3:07So I would like...
- 3:08I could stay in the front of a mirror, but like, or I could just invite my friends over and we had like study parties.
- 3:12And then from there, when I met my husband and he, when we were dating and I like totally fell in love with his family.
- 3:19Like I joke sometimes that I married him for his family because like I have four brothers, no sisters, and he has six sisters.
- 3:25And I'm just like, I'm looking for sisters.
- 3:27You found them.
- 3:28I found them.
- 3:29They're amazing.
- 3:30And my father-in-law was, he's like amazing, Rabbi Blumstein.
- 3:34He was like very involved in Kyiv and he was like in gateways and going to these like programs.
- 3:38And like my husband was like, I think I'm kind of leading in this direction.
- 3:41I'm like, could you tell me more?
- 3:43This sounds amazing.
- 3:44And we got married and my husband was part of Rabbi Berkowitz's kolal, the Jerusalem kolal.
- 3:49And they basically like train you to like go out into like...
- 3:53Arba Kamposah, go all around and spread Torah.
- 3:56And it was kind of like a commitment.
- 3:57Like you had to work for three years in Kiruv.
- 3:59And I was loving it.
- 4:01They had programming for the women.
- 4:02They were teaching us kala classes.
- 4:04And it was like a whole new experience.
- 4:06Like I was living in Israel.
- 4:08And at the same time, I was in college while I was in Israel.
- 4:10I came back a little bit, did my internship.
- 4:12And we got very lucky to be able to work in the city.
- 4:17And we didn't have to, like, go to Timbuktu.
- 4:19And we taught in the Jewish Enrichment Center, the JEC.
- 4:23And it was, like, it's funny because, like, back then we lived in Brooklyn.
- 4:26But, like, the whole, like, Hevra was, like, five towns.
- 4:29I don't know if you know them.
- 4:30Like, Zalman Mindel, Matt Mindel, Ari Sashin.
- 4:33Like, he has a shul now.
- 4:35And it was just, yeah, I mean, like we worked with them.
- 4:39They were like the best people.
- 4:41And it was a whole new world for me.
- 4:42Like I had two little kids.
- 4:43I was working alongside with my husband.
- 4:46We were teaching in the city classes.
- 4:48We would take the train together, drive in, do trips to Israel, Poland, Prague.
- 4:54And I was 22 years old and I'm like teaching these girls.
- 4:58But like it also felt like I was like gaining friends, gaining experience.
- 5:02And...
- 5:03It was very much, I would say, like...
- 5:06I mean, those, by the way, became like my best friends.
- 5:08Like those girls, the students, like they weren't like students.
- 5:10They really became my friends.
- 5:12We all became very close.
- 5:13They used to come for Shabbos.
- 5:15Our house was like open.
- 5:16It was like, you know, Avram Avinu's tent.
- 5:18Like it was like people would come Friday night, Shabbos day.
- 5:22We would do Shabbatones, doing these trips.
- 5:25And I felt like I was like in my jam.
- 5:27I'm like, this is where I want to be.
- 5:28My mother and my father, they were so supportive.
- 5:31They were always babysitting, watching the kids because like we would have these like late nights and teaching.
- 5:34Yeah.
- 5:36And I felt like so comfortable, like for the first time, like in my own skin, I'm like, I think this is what I was here in this world for.
- 5:42Like I would have like I would like walk out of like a class and I would be like on such a high connecting to other people.
- 5:49But like totally not from like with the Hasidic lens, like at all.
- 5:52It was like Shabbos, kosher.
- 5:55Like I would like discover like Manus Freeman classes.
- 5:58And I'm like, wait, who is this?
- 5:59Like, this is amazing.
- 6:00Like I've never heard of it.
- 6:01And like maybe back then like Chabad was taboo.
- 6:04Like I didn't know of it.
- 6:06Like for me, it was like...
- 6:08The only association for me with Chabad was like the Rebbe.
- 6:13Right.
- 6:13Or like Mashiach.
- 6:14Right.
- 6:14That's how I also understood it.
- 6:17It's not... Yeah.
- 6:17Like I didn't fully understand it, but I was like, I'm loving these teachings.
- 6:21And I used to listen to Manus Freeman classes all the time and I had to prepare.
- 6:24But...
- 6:24It was kind of something like I was doing alongside my husband.
- 6:27And then at a certain point, like seven years in, my husband was like, OK, I'm not sure this is like sustainable for like a family with like four kids.
- 6:34You know, we used to go to the city for Shabbos, for Yontif, Rosh Hashanah.
- 6:38We like spent in the Carlton Hotel.
- 6:40Like it was like we were doing the high holy days, like all the services.
- 6:45Were you doing it with Gateways?
- 6:46Was that a Gateways program?
- 6:47No.
- 6:47So it was.
- 6:48So it was the Jewish Enrichment Center.
- 6:49It was the JC.
- 6:50Then it like changed into like Olami, Manhattan.
- 6:52There was like a few changes.
- 6:54It was Ma'ar, Manhattan, then Olami.
- 6:56Now it's officially Olami.
- 6:57It's like on 13th Street.
- 6:58It was like my home for 15 years.
- 7:00It was like I was there twice a week in the city.
- 7:04And then like as life just got like a little bit more, you know, complicated and busy, I was always like every night, like the Monday nights became a little bit more stressful.
- 7:11And I'm like, I'm going to the city.
- 7:12This is a lot.
- 7:14And at the same time, my husband had like left and then he started his own company.
- 7:22Twillery in our backyard in North Wedmere, we were living.
- 7:25It all started there and with a few of his friends and they started like working.
- 7:30And he was also like on his own journey because like.
- 7:33when you're in the Kyiv world, like full time, and like you're teaching and you're connected like to people, and then all of a sudden, like you're just doing everyday business.
- 7:39It's like, are you a second class citizen?
- 7:42Like, are you still a rabbi?
- 7:43Like, I remember, like, we would like apply our kids to school and it was like Rabbi Yelling Malach and Figi Blumstein.
- 7:48And it's like, but now he's doing this.
- 7:50So I think that's kind of like where his journey to Hasidah started.
- 7:54And he started like seeking out like,
- 7:56the Toe River of Moshe Weinberger and like he wrote Yossi Zakotinsky.
- 8:00He would like go to Queens and he was like learning and growing.
- 8:03And my husband was also is a composer and a songwriter.
- 8:07And like he was doing that kind of like on the side as like business.
- 8:10It was like kind of like his side hustle, but he loved everything about our house was always music.
- 8:14And then like during this like Tukufa, I would say that like where he left the Kira world and was working,
- 8:21it was almost like there was like there was no music like written in our house.
- 8:23And like I was used to like singing all the time, music, everything happening.
- 8:27And it like it almost like it's like stopped, like because it was like, wait, if I'm not in this cure world, if I'm not in this world of like learning Torah, like, you know, almost like a Kolel experience and I'm just doing work, then like what's my purpose here?
- 8:43Right.
- 8:43I think a lot of people can relate to that idea because, listen, I always thought that I was going to go into Kirif.
- 8:50Really?
- 8:51I mean, like you're doing Kirif.
- 8:52Well, that's exactly how I feel is that I really thought when I was Shidduch dating that that was I wanted a learner earner, but I wanted an open home with a revolving door.
- 9:02And I do have that.
- 9:04I have an open home with a revolving door.
- 9:06It just looks a little different.
- 9:07And I think that when you change the lens and you like from what the definition is of what you thought key roof was going to be, a lot more can happen.
- 9:20And I think that it's so powerful to recognize that, like, I had the foundation, you had the foundation of these years.
- 9:29But then you're transitioning into something even bigger.
- 9:33Whoa, I kind of feel like that's what happened.
- 9:37Yeah, that's very, very cool.
- 9:39I think that, so then like my husband started like seeking out these like all of like, like I would say like neo-Hasidist classes and like learning and shiurim.
- 9:48And I was like, wait, what is this?
- 9:51Like, where are you, what are you learning?
- 9:53Where are you growing from?
- 9:54And I was always, like, I always say this, like I was like four years behind and like he was going to shiurim and I was just like putting the kids to bed or like I was just doing my schoolwork and I was just like- You're in survival mode.
- 10:03Yeah.
- 10:03Oh, such survival mode.
- 10:05Whoa, like 10 years.
- 10:06Like my 20s was survival mode.
- 10:08It was amazing.
- 10:09But I was just like, yeah, it was like I had four kids by the time I was 28.
- 10:13I was like working full time.
- 10:14Twins, girl.
- 10:15You have twins?
- 10:16No, I said you and I are twins.
- 10:18Yeah, oh.
- 10:18Yeah.
- 10:20And then I'm like working full time for the Board of Ed.
- 10:23I'm teaching in the city two nights a week.
- 10:25But like I almost felt like I didn't have like an anchor.
- 10:29And I think that's where like Hasidus like grounded me.
- 10:32And it's like, Figi, like you can find Hashem.
- 10:36everywhere.
- 10:36It's not just in the hours of like seven to nine when you're teaching in the city, Hashem is with you everywhere.
- 10:42He's with you when you're getting your kids off.
- 10:44He's with you when you're at work with your job that's not necessarily Torah related.
- 10:48And that's kind of where like I fell into this.
- 10:51And it started, I would say, with like Brussels of Hasidus.
- 10:54Okay, so I am not as familiar with chasidas.
- 10:58I'm not going to lie.
- 10:59I'm not going to pretend that I know.
- 11:01I don't.
- 11:02I really don't because I grew up in like a very like Litvish environment where you just like followed what was told.
- 11:08And it's true.
- 11:10And I think that one of the things that really drew me to you, I met Fahy at a bar mitzvah recently actually.
- 11:17And I said, I'm like, but I feel like I know you.
- 11:20I feel like our city, I met you and back Lawrence one Shabbos.
- 11:23And I told my husband, I'm like, she's so cool.
- 11:25I follow her.
- 11:27By the way.
- 11:27Thank you.
- 11:28I'm not as cool.
- 11:29It was like by Barrett.
- 11:29It was like over there.
- 11:30We always do our Shabbos walks over there.
- 11:31Oh, I love that.
- 11:32By the way, I'm from out of town.
- 11:35And one of the things that I always tell people is like, you'll know I'm from out of town because I say hello and introduce myself to every person on the street.
- 11:42So you're just another example of me being so out of town.
- 11:45I love that.
- 11:47When you were in this sort of, I would like to call it the intermission.
- 11:54Yeah.
- 11:55There's like a gap.
- 11:56There's a gap.
- 11:57There's intermission.
- 11:58We actually like name it.
- 11:59We call it 781.
- 12:00That was our address of the house that we lived in during that time.
- 12:03And I'm always like, there was no music in 781.
- 12:07Oh my gosh.
- 12:08But it's the best house.
- 12:09Do you think that you were searching for meaning during that time or you were just trying to survive the day to day?
- 12:18I was really trying to survive the day to day.
- 12:20I think that that's what gets you to search.
- 12:24Like when everything, like when everything's lined up and everything's working, you don't need meaning.
- 12:29It just, it's working, it's clicking, it's good.
- 12:31But like I always say, like a good car cry will get you.
- 12:34So like I used to work in the Bronx and I was like, oh, I had like three hours in the car every single day.
- 12:39And I would just be like contemplating my life.
- 12:41I'm like, is this what I want for my life?
- 12:43Like,
- 12:44you know, and I would think about it and I would find meaning in that because I would be like, OK, let me listen to a share.
- 12:49Let me listen to a podcast.
- 12:50At least I have car time for that.
- 12:51Like I can learn.
- 12:53So like finding Hashem in empty spaces definitely brought me closer to this Hasidus.
- 12:58So I relate to that deeply because I say my my most important,
- 13:05Connective time is when I'm driving to and fro from basketball or for whatever.
- 13:11And I'm literally just – You're a big sports mom.
- 13:13I feel like you are.
- 13:13I am a huge sports mom.
- 13:15I spend my entire life basically like – I'm like I know I have a full-time job and I know that this also looks like a full-time job.
- 13:22But really my full-time job is basketball and hockey and football and all the other things that I – So good.
- 13:29It's great for them.
- 13:30It's great for me too.
- 13:31I love it.
- 13:32But I do think that they're –
- 13:34If you really believe that God is everywhere, he really is everywhere.
- 13:38And you can find him in the little moments and you could find him in the big moments.
- 13:42But I truly connect in those little quiet moments because there's so many things going on.
- 13:50that people tend to get pushed away by religion because it's so overwhelming.
- 13:56There's a thousand rules and there's, you have to do things at a certain time and you have to do things.
- 14:01And one of the things that resonates so deeply is this idea that if God is everywhere, he's in you, he's in the car, he's in the mall, he's wherever you want him to be.
- 14:13And I think that
- 14:16The movement, and it really is a movement that Thank You Hashem has created, is that in those moments where you – it might seem frivolous or it might seem like you're doing something else, you can bring God into everything you do.
- 14:33And that's really what it has at least connected to me.
- 14:37Literally like the balas Hashem Tov.
- 14:39Like you're teaching it right now.
- 14:40Everything that you're saying is so, so true.
- 14:43It's like a lot of times people will think like the Hasidist movement came just like for the simple people or for like the Pasht people or the people who couldn't necessarily like...
- 14:51you know, didn't have access to like all of like the Svarim and all the teachings.
- 14:56But the truth is that the Baal Shem Tov came to reveal and it came at a time where, like, if you look, I always say this, like, if you look at the time that we say, like, the world is going to exist for 6,000 years.
- 15:06I know sometimes I get a little scared from that because I'm like, is there an Armageddon happening at the end?
- 15:10Right.
- 15:10But I've recently learned that actually it's going to be 10,000 years.
- 15:13Yes, because there's an intermediate area where like Mashiach came, but it's not really.
- 15:20You know what I'm saying?
- 15:21Literally, my brother-in-law gave a full PowerPoint presentation on exactly this during the bris of his son.
- 15:28I'm not exaggerating.
- 15:29Is it recorded?
- 15:30It is recorded, and I can send it to you.
- 15:33I can send it to you.
- 15:33So like anybody else who would like it.
- 15:35So what what like I've learned when I first so when I first started trying to learn this, I was like grasping at straws.
- 15:41I was like, OK, you know, a lot of car cries.
- 15:43My husband is going off, like learning all the shirim.
- 15:46I'm like educated, but like I totally don't know this area.
- 15:49I'm like, what's happening here?
- 15:51And then I started learning and like just really understanding like what the Belshazzar came down to the world to do and that his neshama came down, obviously, at a moment.
- 15:59time where it's like what we refer to as like ikvisa de Mashiach, like we're mamish at the end.
- 16:04That's actually one of our songs, we're mamish at the end.
- 16:06And that as the world gets closer and closer to like through Yemosah Mashiach and gets closer to Mashiach, there's going to be this revelation of light that's going to remind us back what it was all the way in the beginning, when everything, and by the way, like I've learned this recently from Rabbi Yassi Zakatinsky, that like Hasidus comes to teach us that nothing has changed from the beginning of time.
- 16:25Like it looks like we have trains and it looks like we have cars, but like really everything is all like what you said, like Enomovado.
- 16:31It's all Hashem.
- 16:32Hashem is everywhere.
- 16:33Don't for one second think that Hashem is more removed because now we have trains and cars and, you know, self-driving cars and we could do everything on our own.
- 16:40No, really, everything is really from the beginning.
- 16:42And if you look at time, it's not linear.
- 16:44It's cyclical.
- 16:46We're coming back closer towards the end.
- 16:48And this is what the world needed.
- 16:49This light that the world needed, like the light of the Baal Shem Tov, came to reveal that Eino Malvado, Hashem is in everything.
- 16:56And don't think because you're not sitting in front of a sefer and doing Kirib 24 hours a day and hosting Shabbatons and going to Poland and Prague and bringing people to concentration camps.
- 17:05Don't think for one second that you're less than because every single thing that you're doing is worthy of having Hashem sitting right next to you.
- 17:12How do we bring somebody closer to,
- 17:16to Hashem without all of the other stuff, because I've also struggled with that.
- 17:24I've also been in a point, it was how it's your closeness to HaKadosh Baruch Hu and living every single moment, like for your purpose.
- 17:32That's really like what gives Hashem nachas, when you're fulfilling every single thing that you're doing, and when you're using all your talents and using all your co-hosts to make this world a better place and just more like reveal Hashem more and more.
- 17:44I think that one of the biggest markers for being a real chasid is that the more you learn, the more humble you become and the more obviously strong you have.
- 17:51So the more love for you is in.
- 17:52So if you find that you're learning and you're growing and you're teaching, but your chest is puffed up and you're like, I'm the best.
- 17:58I'm the cure of master.
- 17:58I'm the T.Y.H.
- 17:59queen or whatever it is, whatever you want to call it.
- 18:02Then.
- 18:03then you're not getting closer to our katech barjo.
- 18:07That's like a voodoo zara.
- 18:07That's like serving the other side when it's like I am the best.
- 18:10But the second that you realize that you can learn from every single person.
- 18:14And these people, these girls that I've met, and I had the best time learning, like working with them.
- 18:18I was like 22 years old.
- 18:20doing these like birthright trips, like with all these girls, like, oh, it was like amazing.
- 18:24But thinking that I'm better than them because I went to the Siaco system is so wrong.
- 18:28And realizing that I can learn so much more from them.
- 18:31And I think that having those two markers, and this was brought down from the Kamarna, that if you have these two markers, you know, you're doing something right.
- 18:38If you're becoming more humble, and you're loving more people, it's like you have such a love for other people.
- 18:43And then it's like, of course,
- 18:44of course I'm not going to worry if you do this and you do that.
- 18:47I do think that there's this interesting dichotomy because on the one hand, right, we are trying to spread light, right?
- 18:56We, we are trying to bring people closer to Hashem.
- 19:01On the other hand, there's a lot of people within the community who feel pushed away.
- 19:08Right?
- 19:09So we,
- 19:11The reason why I even started the podcast was to make sure that everybody feels seen.
- 19:17So whether I have somebody secular sitting in the chair or somebody who, like, values Klesitis, it doesn't make a difference.
- 19:23I really just feel like you are a Jewish neshama.
- 19:27Yes.
- 19:28And I love you because you're here.
- 19:30And I think that...
- 19:33You're right about the boxes and you're right about all of these things.
- 19:35But in society, we do have boxes and we have community standards and we have all these things and we can pretend we don't, but we do.
- 19:42So I always say that my one job is it doesn't matter what box you're in.
- 19:47My only job is to love you.
- 19:49Yeah.
- 19:50And that's it.
- 19:50And I think that... And you should know that, like, I feel like we live, like, thank you, Hashem, we live in a community, like, in the five towns.
- 19:56We're living in the community for, like, 15 years.
- 19:58And I'm like, I feel like almost...
- 20:02I don't know, maybe I can say this.
- 20:03There are no boxes.
- 20:04It's like everybody does their own thing.
- 20:06And there's such...
- 20:07There's, like, the community and the shuls and there...
- 20:12So I think that you are special and that you don't see the boxes.
- 20:16There are definitely boxes.
- 20:17And I know people will feel that there are.
- 20:20I don't because I've...
- 20:23I've stopped.
- 20:24See your chassid because you don't see the boxes.
- 20:26I don't see the boxes because I don't fall into one.
- 20:30Right.
- 20:30And I think because I don't fall into that one for a long time, that made me feel insecure and made me feel uncomfortable.
- 20:37But as time has gone on, I've realized I'm not going to fit into a box ever.
- 20:42There are boxes.
- 20:43But you know what?
- 20:44I'll be the lid.
- 20:44I'll be the lid.
- 20:45Oh, okay.
- 20:46I'll be the lid.
- 20:47You'll stop them.
- 20:48Meaning like you can be in the box if you choose to and I'll open it and close it.
- 20:54But the choice is to let the light in and the darkness out and that's it.
- 21:00And that's all I can do.
- 21:03I would love for you to tell me or take me a little bit on the journey of how Thank You Hashem really started.
- 21:10Because...
- 21:12Honestly, I did a lot.
- 21:13Do you know the story?
- 21:14No.
- 21:14Oh, my gosh.
- 21:15I really don't because I will say I went online to, like, do a little research.
- 21:20Can't find it.
- 21:21Cannot find how we went from two brothers, like, figuring out that they like Hasidus to, like, the movement we have now and clothing and songs and full record company and do all the things.
- 21:36Like, how did we get from there to here?
- 21:38Right.
- 21:38Okay.
- 21:38So, first of all, Hashem was, like...
- 21:41He like I feel very grateful to be part of like the T.Y.H.
- 21:45Like I don't see it for one second like egotistical or whatever.
- 21:49Yes, we have and like that's amazing.
- 21:51But like Hashem was like, I think we're ready.
- 21:54I think we're ready.
- 21:55So it started about, I would say, eight years ago.
- 21:59A little bit more, maybe like between eight, nine years ago in Svas.
- 22:03Okay.
- 22:03So like, remember, my husband's on this journey, like seeking out like Reb Yasi and Ramosh Weinberger and like all this Torah.
- 22:10And he's like trying to like, he's literally like grasping at it, like bringing people into it and like schlepping people.
- 22:16Like I remember like on Tisha B'Av, he's like, we're going to Queens to a share.
- 22:18And it's like, who does that?
- 22:20You're like, dude, it's Tisha B'Av.
- 22:21It's Tisha B'Av.
- 22:21Like, let's watch a Holocaust movie, you know, like.
- 22:23Yeah.
- 22:24Isn't that what you're supposed to do?
- 22:27Until I remember finding myself, like, at Aish, one Tish above, and I was like, wait, like, there was, like, most of my work was, like, playing music, and there was, like, songs, and it was connecting, and kumzites, I was like, I like this, like, this is something.
- 22:40So they ended up in Svas, which is, by the way, like, the hometown of the Arizal.
- 22:45Have you been to Svas?
- 22:46Yeah.
- 22:46Yes.
- 22:47Do you love it?
- 22:47You for sure love it.
- 22:48So I'll tell you, like, all of this is a little new to me.
- 22:51So, like, spot to me.
- 22:52And I'm going to do a little PSA.
- 22:55Okay.
- 22:55Chesitas to me seems a little woo-woo.
- 22:58Right.
- 22:58Okay?
- 22:59And as somebody who's, like, a little bit more, like, I take off my shoes to ground myself, the woo-woo is new for me.
- 23:08And it's intimidating for those of us who are, like, a little more...
- 23:11You know, like, so spot to me has always been like a little bit like trippy.
- 23:17Okay.
- 23:20but like the interesting brother that we don't necessarily talk about.
- 23:25Okay?
- 23:26And that's okay.
- 23:27The one who's wearing a scarf.
- 23:28Yes, and you're like, you're cool, but like I don't think I'm cool enough.
- 23:31Right.
- 23:31I don't think I'm cool enough to like, like I'm insecure.
- 23:35I am not singing at the top of my lungs.
- 23:36What's your call when you like bring someone into like a sorority?
- 23:39Oh, recruitment.
- 23:40Yes.
- 23:41So like we'll recruit you.
- 23:42Okay.
- 23:42Okay.
- 23:42By the way, I really do think like Hashem is what I like.
- 23:45I mean, Thank You Hashem is like literally like Hasidus light.
- 23:47It's approachable.
- 23:48It's approachable.
- 23:49It's approachable, Chasitas.
- 23:51And it's like, okay, we're cool.
- 23:53We're the cool cousin, but we're not going to freak you out with the woo-woo too much.
- 23:59Right.
- 23:59Oh, my gosh.
- 24:00This is so funny.
- 24:01Because, like, my husband always has to remind me.
- 24:03He's like, Figgy, not everybody gets it.
- 24:05I'm like, they don't want to go to Repshila?
- 24:07Like, they want to go to the south of France?
- 24:08Like, why wouldn't you go to that?
- 24:09I did both.
- 24:10You did both.
- 24:11I'm not going to lie.
- 24:11Like, I enjoy a south of France, and I also enjoy going to a caver.
- 24:17Like, I did on Tishabov go to the Owella.
- 24:19Like, this is what I enjoy doing.
- 24:21Okay.
- 24:22And I think, like, balance is important.
- 24:24It's 100%.
- 24:25I'm like, what do you say to the people that say that thank you Hashem's a cult?
- 24:29Right.
- 24:29It's because it...
- 24:32It could be.
- 24:32It's a really beautiful...
- 24:33Right, it sounds like it's beautiful.
- 24:34But the whole...
- 24:35But here's, like, there are many, like, foundational teachings in Hasidus.
- 24:39Like, I should have come with, like, vocabulary words.
- 24:41Because, like, vocabulary cards.
- 24:42Because, like, so one of them is, for example, this idea of ratzavashov.
- 24:45That just, like...
- 24:47like a candle, right?
- 24:48It's always like reaching up.
- 24:49It's always flickering up.
- 24:50And it looks almost like if you would stare at a candle, you would think that like the flame just wants to go up.
- 24:56But if it would just go up, then it would be extinguished.
- 24:58So it has to remember as much as it wants to go up, it has to be tethered down here.
- 25:02So when it comes to learning any concepts in Hasidus, you have to know that there's like, you can go up or as you say, like the woo-woo, like you can have this like moment of elevation or like you can feel transcendent, but the ability to come back down and
- 25:15to this world is the most important because like the whole premise of Hasidahs, one of the big premises is like that Hashkot Shepar who wanted a dirbetachtonim.
- 25:23Like he wanted to be down here.
- 25:25He didn't want us just ascending and like meditating and monks and like people who are just transcendent, fasting, all of that.
- 25:32Like we, like Hasidah didn't do it right.
- 25:34Like they have meatboards, right?
- 25:36Like they have like food and platters and they also value Gashmias because when you value the Gashmias with God,
- 25:43Being able to go up, you bring it back down.
- 25:45So you appreciate it.
- 25:46So I understand.
- 25:48And by the way, that's why there's not just one element of tzvahs.
- 25:52You know there's this idea that there's four elements of the world and they're connected to four cities.
- 25:55So tzvahs is air.
- 25:56So if you spend too much time in tzvahs, and by the way, tzvahs is in the north connected to the air, it's too much up there.
- 26:02You also have to go down to Yerushalayim.
- 26:03You have to ground yourself.
- 26:04You have to go to Hebron.
- 26:05Hebron is earth and Tveria is water and Yerushalayim is fire.
- 26:09You can't just be one of the elements.
- 26:10You have to be of all four.
- 26:12So within our lives, like we have six days of the week and then we have Shabbos.
- 26:16Like the reason, like, right, we are like, oh, we wouldn't be able to survive without it.
- 26:20But Hashem is teaching us that like, and by the way, the neshamos on Shabbos, the neshamos when we're longer here in this physical world, could even transcend higher on Shabbos.
- 26:26So Shabbos is the greatest and the highest of elevation.
- 26:29But guess what?
- 26:30Sunday comes and you have to go back to work.
- 26:32So the balance in Hasidus is like very, very important.
- 26:37Does that help you understand Sfas also?
- 26:39Like, I want to be, I need a summer home in Sfas.
- 26:41Like, I don't think I could do Sfas all the time.
- 26:43But Sfas has unbelievable Shabbos energy.
- 26:46Like, that's where L'Chadodi was written.
- 26:48Like, in the 1500s.
- 26:49Like, mysticism started there.
- 26:51It really, really started before that with Sfas.
- 26:56in Meiron with Rabbi Shem Ravai Yochai, and he wrote the Zohar, and that was hidden.
- 27:00And it wasn't able to be interpreted or understood until the Arizal came out, and he kind of codified it with Rabbi Chaim Vital.
- 27:06So there was a whole codification of it, and then it started becoming practical.
- 27:10The Baal Shem Tov in the 1600s, and the 1700s and 1800s with Rabbi Nachman and the Alter Rebbe, they fleshed it out more to make it practical.
- 27:19So I'm going to equate this to therapy versus coaching in my world, because...
- 27:26Therapy, you understand the concepts and the feelings you're dealing with.
- 27:31And then coaching is the practical application of what you're doing.
- 27:37And that's why I've been shifting a little more towards coaching because you need both.
- 27:41You need the feelings and understanding, but you also need...
- 27:50goals and direction and things.
- 27:53And that's also how the movement, let's say, of Hasidists, the whole Hasidist movement actually happened because there was practicalities to take away from it.
- 28:01In order for any revolution to actually be groundbreaking, it has to have leaders.
- 28:07It has to have a system to follow it.
- 28:09So talk to me about your movement and your system.
- 28:12And I know it started in Svah, but what happened after that?
- 28:15So it started in Svah, obviously with the Kaver of the Arizal.
- 28:18My husband and his brother and like a whole Hevra, Mikey Moss, like great people, like really just like people who wanted to grow and learn, find themselves in Svah for Shabbos.
- 28:28None of the food that they ordered came out.
- 28:30I know this comes down to food.
- 28:32They ordered a bunch of food.
- 28:33A Jewish chef.
- 28:33The guy didn't, right?
- 28:34The guy delivered the wrong thing.
- 28:36He ended up having to pick up more food.
- 28:37And when they said, like, you know, the order is not right, his response was like, thank you, Hashem.
- 28:42And they're like, yeah, but, like, we don't have any schnitzel.
- 28:45And he's like, thank you, Hashem.
- 28:46And then whatever, they went and they got more food.
- 28:48You know, they went to the mikvah.
- 28:49They come back.
- 28:50They had the most incredible, incredible Shabbos.
- 28:52happens to be I was in Yerushalayim that Shabbos because I was still working for the Kirib organization and I was leading a trip.
- 28:58So I'm in Yerushalayim in the city of fire.
- 29:00He's in Yerushalayim in the city of air.
- 29:02He's in Svah, yeah.
- 29:02And they're having this unbelievable Shabbos.
- 29:05I mean, if you spend time in Svahs, like you have like the Ka'ubach Shul and you have just the Kedusha of the Mkubalim.
- 29:10Like that was the artist colony.
- 29:12So all of a sudden you have like my husband and his brothers who are very artistic and very creative feeding off that energy and they bring it home.
- 29:22Um, actually they went, they also had this experience.
- 29:24They went that Mata Shabbos to this like cave near Mehron and they heard like this song of like Shamati.
- 29:30Um, it ended up becoming one of our songs, like take us home, but it was just, it was a very, very uplifting Shabbos.
- 29:36They come home with like all this energy and they're just, you know, they're just, you
- 29:40thinking like we started like flinging around the phrase in our phrase in our family like anytime something happened we're like thank you Hashem thank you Hashem like when something went wrong but they saw Hashem in it it was just like thank you Hashem I drop a dozen eggs thank you Hashem but like we weren't sure like where it was heading um my husband sitting at work doodling making a logo a crown he knew he knew that this was going to be like something something um made a crown
- 30:11And the night of his breath was my sister-in-law's fourth child.
- 30:14And Leah said, Leah from the Torah, I'm like, Leah.
- 30:17Leah from the Torah, Leah Emenu, she said the words, hapama odes Hashem, after she had her fourth child.
- 30:23And all of a sudden, the music came back.
- 30:25Like, remember, 781, there's no music, it's quiet.
- 30:28And all of a sudden, with this baby being born, with the movement already, like, gaining traction, with, like, a little bit of Thank You Hashem comes the song.
- 30:38At the Brist, they debut it with My She Storage, comes out on a guitar.
- 30:42And then a few months later is COVID.
- 30:45And...
- 30:46All of a sudden, like, the world shuts down, and we're hanging out with Joey Newcomb, and because he's just like, he was like a friend, he was part of that chevra, and they start concerts, you know, in the cars during COVID.
- 30:58Everybody's coming home, and they're singing, thank you, Hashem, and we're like, they're singing, our song.
- 31:02That's our song.
- 31:03And we're like, oh, that's so cute.
- 31:04And I remember thinking, we didn't see where this was going.
- 31:08And obviously, Yad HaShem plans everything.
- 31:10So then comes the song.
- 31:11And then comes another song.
- 31:12Actually, the next song was an Elos song with Pompadiza.
- 31:14And my husband was back in his swing of writing music.
- 31:19And also now we came back with a different thing.
- 31:22It wasn't music just to sell music because like he was selling music to Avram Fried and Benny Friedman, you know, like bum, bum, bum, I'm sure bum, bum, bum.
- 31:29So like my husband wrote those songs and like, but here it's like, no.
- 31:31So he sits down with his brother and he's like, if we're going to do this, we're not making any money off of this.
- 31:35This is our mission.
- 31:37This is our Olam Haba.
- 31:38We are gifted with kochos and talents, and we're going to give back to the world, but we're going to also teach something.
- 31:45So in order for Hasidus, for a revolution, to have a grounding, it needs to have leaders that are going to help and spread it.
- 31:54So if you think about when...
- 31:56the Baal Shem Tov, let's say, I don't know, I'm not saying like how he planned it, but when his neshamah came down to this world and he wanted to further and continue this, and by the way, it was the age of revolutions, if you think about it, talking like French Revolution, like everybody, all the world, like it was very, like historically, it was the time of revolutions, but for it to really take ground, he had five main students and from his five main students, they had 50 main students and that's where all
- 32:18all Hasidus came from.
- 32:19So everything could be traced back to the Baal Shem Tov.
- 32:22So we started with like the, like grounding ourselves and then being able to spread it through different channels.
- 32:29So all the, one of the biggest channels that we had was music.
- 32:32Cause like, we're like, we have this in our back pocket.
- 32:34Like we know what we're doing.
- 32:35We like music.
- 32:37Um, you probably already had the context of he, if you're already selling music to Avram Fried and Benny Friedman and all these.
- 32:43But it's funny because it was like so, it felt like a whole different lifetime.
- 32:47Like it was like pre-Hasidas and like post-Hasidas.
- 32:50And then the music was not just cute, catchy words.
- 32:53The music became Torahs.
- 32:55Like the Torahs that we were learning turned into songs.
- 32:58Like the most famous one is Chihuahua.
- 33:00Like everyone's like, what is Chihuahua?
- 33:02Like why is my kid singing it all day?
- 33:04And it's one of the teachings where Abiyasi was saying that like, if you think that the Yitzhar is going to get you, if you think these people coming after you or these...
- 33:11I don't know, like it's like scary or overwhelming, let's say Yiddishkeit, like or anything that seems like it's going to take you away from it.
- 33:18It's just a little chihuahua like nagging at your foot.
- 33:21And then it's like, ah, that became a song.
- 33:23So like people think like, oh, there's silliness to it, but it's all rooted in that.
- 33:28So it started with, I would say like post-COVID, the world needed something new.
- 33:34You know, like post-Holocaust was like animamin and like post-COVID was like, thank you, Hashem.
- 33:40this like age of gratitude of like coming back to like peeling off klipas and like seeing the yid inside of every single person.
- 33:47Because we were no longer in survival mode.
- 33:49I think now it's different because like maybe we are.
- 33:51But like back then, like pre-October 7th, it was very much like we have to see the good in every single yid.
- 33:59It was just another version of...
- 34:02Like rising from the ashes.
- 34:04We literally have done it so many times.
- 34:07And just like you said at the beginning where you were saying how like we think that we are like experiencing something for the first time.
- 34:13No, it's all just again and again and again, history repeating itself.
- 34:17But at the end of the day, Torah, Judaism...
- 34:22We rise up from the ashes and we continue the Masora.
- 34:26And that is why I feel so deeply about all of this is because it doesn't really matter what you're practicing or what you're holding or how you're holding or whatever it is.
- 34:36That is not for me to judge.
- 34:37Right.
- 34:38That is not for me to judge.
- 34:39My only tafkid, my only job is to make sure that I am doing what I believe.
- 34:46Exactly.
- 34:47Exactly.
- 34:47And it's very hard to like keep yourself in check because like it's easy to judge.
- 34:51And I think that like when I was in the cure of Rehokim and I was like in that world of like I'm better because I wear a shaito.
- 34:57Like, no, we're not.
- 34:58It's not like that.
- 34:59And realizing and seeing them seeing the Yid for who they are and connecting to them and bringing each other closer.
- 35:06Like it's like this concept of like the must be and the makabal.
- 35:10There's like the giver and the receiver.
- 35:11And I think in order for any intimacy or any relationship to happen, both people have to bring something to the table.
- 35:17So if there's just somebody lecturing, lecturing, lecturing and you're receiving it.
- 35:21then there's not going to be this real bond, but a real friendship and a real relationship, whether it's with your spouse or with your kids or with Hashem, has to be like, I bring something to the table also.
- 35:31So I think that's where, like, for me, the gaiva, like, slipped away.
- 35:34Like, don't ever think that you're better than anybody else because you can learn from every single person.
- 35:40I think that one of the reasons why, and please correct me if I'm wrong, why Thank You Hashem has basically attracted and connected to so many people across the world is less because it's preachy and more because it's accessible Judaism, where there is this idea where, you
- 36:02I always had a problem in the Kirov world, which is where my struggle worked, where we did a lot of outreach but not a lot of in-reach.
- 36:10And there were people within our community who were feeling ostracized or feeling pushed away or not connecting.
- 36:16And I think that the movement of Thank You Hashem has also brought people within the community in.
- 36:26And I think – Such a shift, right?
- 36:27It's such a shift where you're going, oh, okay –
- 36:31I might not have everything figured out.
- 36:32So you can connect to just the music.
- 36:35You could connect to the Torah, um, Shirem.
- 36:38You can connect to the cooking shows.
- 36:40You could connect to something.
- 36:42There is Gashmias and Ruchnias.
- 36:45And I think that that to me is what has changed my own perspective on Judaism.
- 36:52Not necessarily through Thank You Hashem, but through my own growth and through Thank You Hashem is this idea that it's not all or nothing.
- 37:00Right.
- 37:01Life is so much more.
- 37:02And if you connect.
- 37:03Not black and white.
- 37:04We're so not black and white.
- 37:05If you connect to one thing, great.
- 37:07If you connect to something else, even better.
- 37:09If you connect to multiple things, we are winning.
- 37:12We are winning.
- 37:12Well, like, that, so that's kind of me for me.
- 37:15Like, the shift happens.
- 37:16So I'm, like, teaching in the city.
- 37:18And, like, we're, thank you, Hashem is starting.
- 37:20And then my husband looks at me and he's, like, why are you not teaching, like, just regular five-towns moms?
- 37:24And I'm, like, because, like, I don't have source sheets.
- 37:27Like, I, like.
- 37:30I don't like a Zarsheed.
- 37:31I don't like a Zarsheed.
- 37:32I don't do Zarsheeds anymore.
- 37:33I only do playlists.
- 37:34So like if you want to learn, like you just listen to music.
- 37:37Did I send you the Karastir playlist?
- 37:38Yes, you did.
- 37:39Yeah.
- 37:39Okay, because when I went to Karastir, basically anytime I'm at a caver, I text, I text Fagy and I'm like, okay, where are you?
- 37:46Because I'm at, I'm at a caver.
- 37:48Right.
- 37:49So you actually pushed me to go to the Ribbit Store this week because you're like, I'm here and I was like, a little more cute.
- 37:54baby.
- 37:54They have the pre-COVID cookies, the ones that are just in the box, you know?
- 37:58Yeah, I know.
- 37:59I didn't get a cookie.
- 38:00I didn't get a cookie.
- 38:00I'm not going to lie, but I do like an owl cookie.
- 38:02I love an owl cookie.
- 38:03So for me, it's shifted.
- 38:05So like this, so teaching there, and like, maybe I'm a little bit better than everybody else.
- 38:09Maybe I understand more and I'm getting to teach them.
- 38:11So that's Kira Verhokim.
- 38:12It's like, oh, let's bring people in.
- 38:14And it was great.
- 38:14And it's amazing.
- 38:15And it's still amazing.
- 38:16But it was like,
- 38:17And realizing also like, wait, I'm right here.
- 38:20I'm here in the five towns, which I believe is like the panemius center of the world.
- 38:24Like I'm right now I'm so grateful for like where we live.
- 38:28I'm also very grateful for where we live.
- 38:30Good schools and good chevra and good shuls.
- 38:33And it's just open minded.
- 38:35Good restaurants.
- 38:36And like, it's good.
- 38:37Great running routes.
- 38:38We were right by the beach.
- 38:39And I'm like, wait.
- 38:40Like, I took a step back for a second.
- 38:41I'm like, where are we?
- 38:42So I got a hold.
- 38:45My husband bought me this book called The Story of Our Lives.
- 38:48It was written by Yaakov Klein.
- 38:49It's a phenomenal book.
- 38:50It's one of the stories of Rabbi Nachman.
- 38:53Rabbi Nachman, at the end of his life, after teaching, he lived very short.
- 38:57He only lived 38 years.
- 38:58But towards the end of his life, he started, he wrote a story.
- 39:00I had no idea.
- 39:02I know.
- 39:02I'm in the middle of reading a book about his life.
- 39:04And I'm just like... 38 years?
- 39:05And like to be able to be so...
- 39:07Influential.
- 39:08Influential.
- 39:09And like I always say, like he was the refuel of Nehamaqa.
- 39:11Like he understood our generation more.
- 39:13He would have been the best therapist ever.
- 39:16Enshim Yehish Ba'olam Kla.
- 39:17Like there's no such thing as despair.
- 39:19There's no such thing as like anxiety and stress and everything can be held, like dealt with with Simcha is...
- 39:25something that like all of a sudden I was reading this book and towards the end of his life he wrote a story book you know he says that Rabbi Nachman says that like the rest of the world tells stories to put their kids to sleep but we tell stories to wake you up to wake people up and his stories are like magical they're like Cinderella stories like the story the lost princess and there's like an ogre and a bad guy and like scary trees that talk and like unbelievable magical it like drew me in this story I'm like this story every single thing was so meaningful and I'm like this story I'm like
- 39:52And then I got on my phone.
- 39:54I had Yaakov Giusefi, who's also one of the Chavra, Make a Logo, Brestle Book Club.
- 39:58And I was like, I'm not just gonna do regular book club, which I was doing at the time, which was amazing, but I was always stressed out because I never read the book on time.
- 40:04And they almost kicked me out.
- 40:05They actually did kick me out, but I love them.
- 40:07They're like, Figi, you're too busy.
- 40:09Like, you can't do this.
- 40:10I was like, okay.
- 40:11So I'm doing this Brestle Book Club, and I'm learning Rabbi Nachman, and I'm teaching it just to women here in the Five Towns.
- 40:17And I was like, wait, like, there's so much cure of Christ.
- 40:20Like, we need to learn so much.
- 40:22Like, who needs this the most?
- 40:23Like, we're the from young moms in the five towns.
- 40:25Like, we need chazak.
- 40:26Like, yeah, maybe like we keep Shabbos and we go to the mikvah and we keep kosher.
- 40:31But like, don't we need that Yiddishkeit to be alive?
- 40:34That's exactly it.
- 40:35I felt like for a long time, there's a lot of people who go through the motions but aren't feeling connected.
- 40:42And I think that that loss of connection is really where...
- 40:48And there's such a disconnect.
- 40:49Right.
- 40:51And yeah, we're doing all the right things, but we're not feeling what it is.
- 40:57And that is so telling of the times we're in because it's all instant gratification and a relationship takes time to build.
- 41:06So are your relationship with your significant other, your relationship with your children, your relationship with God takes effort, takes work, takes time.
- 41:14And even though we are in the epicenter, OK, even though we pretend we're not, we're in the epicenter of a lot of Yiddishkeit and everything is at our fingertips.
- 41:23Sometimes we're just going through it and living it instead of feeling it.
- 41:28Right.
- 41:29And then like you'll end up presenting it.
- 41:32Like, you will.
- 41:34Really?
- 41:35I'm shocked.
- 41:35I'm going back to my 20s and I'm like thinking like, oh, like it was hard.
- 41:39I was like hustling but not understanding, doing mitzvot, not necessarily knowing why, teaching it but not knowing the meaning.
- 41:46And I'm like, Figgy, like use your brains and like start delving a little bit deeper.
- 41:51And that was like where I like started.
- 41:53I love that.
- 41:55Do you think that social media has exacerbated the movement or has diluted it?
- 42:03A hundred percent it's helped.
- 42:05And everything that Hashem puts down here into this world can be used for the good or for the bad.
- 42:09And like I love to see the beauty in social media because...
- 42:13it allows you.
- 42:13I remember like we were doing these live concerts.
- 42:16We were like when I remember like sitting in my brother-in-law's house, Joey Newcomb there with a guitar, 2020, going live, singing a song, having a fabring like online when nobody was able to see anybody.
- 42:26I'm like, how could we not see that this is a gift and how could we not utilize it?
- 42:30So put on my phone, Instagram live, teaching a class, not knowing who's listening.
- 42:34That later ended up leading to me learning Tanya and like
- 42:38totally transformed into a habura because I started on live.
- 42:41So I think social media is amazing.
- 42:43It allows us, it's such a, like what I refer to as like a channel or a cleat.
- 42:46It's like a, it's a vessel to be able to spread light.
- 42:50Do you feel a sense of responsibility because you're reaching so many people?
- 42:56Yeah.
- 42:57Yeah.
- 42:58And not only that, at this point, because of the following, we know that it's going to have an impact.
- 43:03So it's like we almost feel, first of all, like I always say this, like Asherino, like we're so lucky to be able to spread light.
- 43:12And every single one of us are lamplighters.
- 43:15Like as Yadin, that's our role here.
- 43:16That's what we're supposed to be doing.
- 43:18But understanding that you have a purpose in this world obviously is...
- 43:25It does not only does it feel good, it makes it does it comes with a sense of responsibility.
- 43:29Yeah.
- 43:30Only recently did I started realizing that a sense of responsibility.
- 43:33Like I one time looked at myself in the mirror and I was like getting dressed and I'm like,
- 43:37TYH Robinson?
- 43:38Like, is that a thing?
- 43:39Is that a role?
- 43:40Like, do I have to like, you know, and I realized like, yeah, it is.
- 43:44I'm very grateful for it.
- 43:45And, um, and I'm so grateful for like the team and being able to spread it and do it.
- 43:50It's like, also like now, like for example, like as it's spreading, let's say like with the TYH boys, I know like we didn't get yet into the actual music, but like,
- 43:58Knowing that we have a channel now to reach the kids, it's like responsibility.
- 44:03The music has to have meaning.
- 44:04We run it by our rav.
- 44:06Every single song is run through, making sure that it has the Torah, making sure it has the right people that they're dealing with, like the right chevra that each of the T.Y.
- 44:14boys should have, like somebody like watching over them.
- 44:16Like there's like they're my spin.
- 44:18We're Rudy fans.
- 44:19We're Rudy fans.
- 44:20You have to understand, like Rudy played basketball for me.
- 44:23Like I coached boys basketball.
- 44:25No way.
- 44:26Yeah, girl.
- 44:27And we love his family and we love the T.Y.H.
- 44:30boys in my house and we love all the music.
- 44:33And I really do think that through your music, you are reaching a
- 44:40Right.
- 44:40So music is like music is so like it's so connected to see this.
- 44:45Like, you know, they say that there was a period also like a Tkufa, like it was 781.
- 44:52There was like this Tkufa that there was no music, like from the time of destruction of the first base of Mekdash up until the Baal Shem Tov.
- 44:57There's no Mekunim.
- 44:59There's no music recorded.
- 45:00There's like Piyutim.
- 45:02There were like poems, but there was no music.
- 45:04Music is very, very deeply connected.
- 45:06Like there's this idea that when Mashiach comes, we're going to have like a new note of music, like the eighth note of music.
- 45:13Never heard that before.
- 45:14Yeah, because there's not all of the music is like revealed yet.
- 45:18But music we know is what we use to connect.
- 45:20Like you would walk into the base of Mekdash.
- 45:21Like I know like for us it feels so foreign.
- 45:24And like you go to Israel and you see like these like, you know, the columns, the coliseums and like...
- 45:29not the Colosseum, sorry, like, you know, like the columns, right?
- 45:32And you're like, oh, that was the Beis HaMikdash.
- 45:34Oh, I'm at the Kosal.
- 45:34But really what the Beis HaMikdash was, it was just like they were for bringing there.
- 45:38Like there was music and there was learning and there was Karbanos.
- 45:41Karbanos means like there was food, there were barbecues, there was, it was a place that you came to connect, to reconnect yourself.
- 45:48Like Shalosh Pemim B'Hashana, you have to go three times.
- 45:51Like Hashem's like, I want you to have a good time.
- 45:53And music.
- 45:54Like my family, I'm a Baslevy.
- 45:56Like we were Levian.
- 45:57Like they were playing music at the steps when you came in.
- 46:00Like, you know.
- 46:01It was like a real party.
- 46:02It was a real party.
- 46:03Like done by Birch.
- 46:04Like it was real.
- 46:05It was good.
- 46:05It was nice.
- 46:06There was food.
- 46:06There was music.
- 46:07But the music.
- 46:08got like shut off.
- 46:10Like the channel of music was shut off until the Baal Shem Tov came.
- 46:13And then is where Ngunim started again.
- 46:16So it's like music brings us alive.
- 46:18Music touches this part of your neshama that maybe it's the language of the neshama.
- 46:23The neshama doesn't talk, it sings.
- 46:25So music became like a was like probably our first channel for like spreading Hasidus.
- 46:31And that was through the songs.
- 46:33And every single one of the songs is either, like I said, connected back to a Torah.
- 46:37And then all of a sudden we have these like artists like reaching out and like we were able to like feature also like new faces and like bringing these people.
- 46:43I was like, Loki is like Simon Cowell.
- 46:46Like we have like American Idol here.
- 46:48Like for real.
- 46:50But like also in such a authentic way of like, I remember like what my husband's saying, like this is not, this is like nonprofit.
- 46:59Like this is just going out there to reach people, to spread light and having so many people coming in.
- 47:05Like Alex Clare, Matis Yao, Mandy Warsh, like all of them, like they became uplifted.
- 47:11They became part of the Hebra.
- 47:12And that's why the family just keeps growing and growing.
- 47:15I'm a DJ Fabring fan.
- 47:17Like, oh, I love house music.
- 47:19So like I'm like into it.
- 47:20We,
- 47:20Mandy Purnett put out a whole house music album.
- 47:22Oh, I know.
- 47:23I'm into it.
- 47:24So one of the things that I love about you is you talk about a Hashem-centered life.
- 47:31It's something that, like, it oozes out of you.
- 47:34It really oozes out.
- 47:35I can't get through a question here without it, like, being a lesson in Hasidus.
- 47:41So what does that mean when you say a Hashem-centered life?
- 47:47So, like, I have this feeling of, like,
- 47:51Not that like it's dark, but like I'm an only girl.
- 47:54I have four brothers.
- 47:54I love them.
- 47:55And I have amazing, amazing sister-in-laws.
- 47:57But like also there was like a lonely feeling of being an only girl.
- 48:00I like connect, by the way, to people who have only girls, only sisters.
- 48:03I know.
- 48:04So who have no sisters, right?
- 48:06I know.
- 48:07I know.
- 48:07Oh, no.
- 48:08Okay.
- 48:09So I just like growing up, it was like I was on the roller coaster by myself all the time, like my two older brother, I have one older brother and three younger, but like, it was like two of them, two of them was like me by myself.
- 48:18So like, there was always like, I always like go back to that, like, where does my loneliness come from?
- 48:22Like, if, if it's like, you know,
- 48:24And then like over time with Rabbi Nachman, which is like right now, like what we're very like, we're very much learning Rabbi Nachman and his bodzidas.
- 48:32We start realizing that there's another layer of Hashem.
- 48:35Like Hashem is not just like this king who like on Rosh Hashanah decides what we're going to have a whole year.
- 48:40And he's not just, you know, like somebody scary who gives punishments at the end of time.
- 48:46Sometimes we refer to Hashem as a Vinu, like our father.
- 48:48And that's like, oh, like also like since I lost my father two years ago, like his Neshama should have an Aliyah.
- 48:54He was my biggest fan.
- 48:56He's still my biggest fan.
- 48:56He's still Tzvib and Aaron David.
- 48:58My mother is my wingman.
- 48:59She comes to me.
- 49:00She comes with me for everything.
- 49:01But there was this feeling of like, wait, like, do I belong here?
- 49:05Like I had my best friends.
- 49:07But then like as I got older and I'm realizing like Hashem is not just a vinu or just a volcano.
- 49:11He could also be your best friend.
- 49:13So it's like bringing Hashem with me in everything so that I'm not feeling lonely.
- 49:19I don't know.
- 49:19Maybe we could do this in therapy or in coaching.
- 49:21Like I don't know where loneliness comes from and like me needing to feel attached to something.
- 49:25But maybe it's just our neshama saying like,
- 49:28Go back to where you came from.
- 49:29Like, we are a chilek alokami ma'amamish.
- 49:31We are a piece of Hashem.
- 49:32So, of course, we should be feeling him all the time.
- 49:35So the more you recognize that you're a piece of Hashem, the more you recognize that, like...
- 49:39you can't do this without him.
- 49:41Like the Zusha song, like, I can't, can't do this without you.
- 49:45Like that's Hashem speaking to us.
- 49:46That's not, oh, sorry.
- 49:47I just got closed.
- 49:48That's not, that's not us telling Hashem.
- 49:51Hashem says, I can't do this without you.
- 49:53So it's like, oh my gosh, like I feel so needed.
- 49:55So of course Hashem is going to be everywhere because A, I don't want to be lonely.
- 50:00And also I'm really just a part of him.
- 50:02If you were,
- 50:05to sit across from somebody who says, okay, I wanna feel close to Hashem, how do I start?
- 50:13So in different seasons of my life, it would be different things.
- 50:16I think right now I'm very in like Rabbi Nachman mode and I'm really learning how to do this.
- 50:22This is very new to me.
- 50:23Like I'm very vulnerable and I like tell a lot of people, but about eight weeks ago, I started learning how to like talk to Hashem.
- 50:30which I have to say I've never really done.
- 50:32Like I journal a lot and I write, but actually like sitting down in my backyard for five minutes and talking to somebody who's not here, you sing woo-woo like this is like.
- 50:42So then I guess I am woo-woo because that's the only way I connect.
- 50:45Really?
- 50:45It's the only way I connect.
- 50:46So that's.
- 50:47probably the deepest way, like the deepest, which for some people is hard.
- 50:51Some people, it's easy.
- 50:52Some people do it, preferably in nature.
- 50:55It's supposed to be.
- 50:56Rabbi Nachman says for one hour a day.
- 50:58I do like five to six minutes.
- 51:00I like catch up.
- 51:01I'm like, let me send a voice note to Hashem.
- 51:03Let me just like tell Hashem about Shabbos.
- 51:04Like, and that is...
- 51:08according to Rabbi Nachman, he's teaching now, that will transform your whole day.
- 51:11So if you want to get started, it could be with talking to Hashem.
- 51:13That's one way.
- 51:14Another season of my life is very much learning.
- 51:17Like I'm a forever student.
- 51:19Like I'll go back to school any day.
- 51:21Like, oh, no, you're not.
- 51:23We are not.
- 51:23We are not.
- 51:25You got me at first one.
- 51:26Wait, no rules, but I just want to go back to school.
- 51:28Like, no tests, but, like, I love to learn.
- 51:30So there's that aspect of, like, connecting.
- 51:32Like, when I started learning Tanya, it was, like, so cerebral.
- 51:36I was, like, learning new things, and my mind was so tickled, and I was like, oh, my gosh.
- 51:40Like, I could really, yeah, like, I could really connect to Ashem here.
- 51:44And, like, I had to also learn a whole new vocabulary when I was learning Tanya because it was not anything I've ever learned in my 12 years of teaching.
- 51:50B.C.
- 51:50Akov and seminary.
- 51:52Like I've never learned these ideas.
- 51:54So these new concepts were like so exciting for me.
- 51:57So if it's you want to learn.
- 51:58And like also with social media, like and with podcasts and learning, like you could put on, you could you have access to everything.
- 52:04Like there's no excuse to like say like, oh, I can't.
- 52:07I don't have time to go to a share.
- 52:08Like I used to say that all the time about workout classes.
- 52:11I'm like, I am at work.
- 52:12I have to sit, be at a desk at 8 a.m.
- 52:15But then I got the mirror and I work out at home.
- 52:17So it's like you could listen to any share on Spotify, podcasts.
- 52:21There's so much.
- 52:22And if you don't connect through a share, there's so many other avenues to connect.
- 52:26At least for me, I walk all day.
- 52:30It's my...
- 52:31Weighted vest.
- 52:31I'll be working.
- 52:32What?
- 52:32Weighted vest.
- 52:33So I used to, but like I have a bad back, so it was like getting a little bit problematic.
- 52:38But I walk all day.
- 52:40It's my favorite form of movement and living in New York, you don't get to do that so often.
- 52:45I like it, but whatever.
- 52:49And I put on an audio book.
- 52:51Oh, because I do think that a I can get through it on two times speed because who listens to anything at one time speed?
- 52:58No.
- 52:58Who has time for that?
- 52:59I feel like my actual voice is on two time speed.
- 53:01So then when I listen to myself, I'm like, wait, wait, slow down, slow down.
- 53:05But I do think that there's like an aspect of we're always learning and it could be it could be nonsense.
- 53:12It could be a self health book.
- 53:13It could be whatever you want it to be.
- 53:15As long as you're learning and growing like I'm into it.
- 53:18So I like this idea.
- 53:20I'm going to end off with you because I know we feel like we just started, but like you and I could hang out all day.
- 53:25Stay tuned for part two.
- 53:28No, but I wanted to end with a little rapid fire.
- 53:31Okay.
- 53:31Because I do think like you think on your feet, girl.
- 53:34Okay.
- 53:35What's one Thank You Hashem song that you'll never get tired of?
- 53:39Yiden.
- 53:41That has a whole other story on its own.
- 53:43I'm going to cry.
- 53:44Yeah.
- 53:45Because like peel off the klipas, like there's a neshama in every single one of us.
- 53:51And it makes you like, it makes you love other people.
- 53:54And it also became like, it became like the next, like, thank you, Hashem.
- 53:58Like it became, oh my gosh, are you really getting into tears?
- 54:00Because it's really important to me that every neshama feels seen.
- 54:05Yeah.
- 54:06Yeah.
- 54:06And and it's important that that throughout whatever avenue you get to do that.
- 54:11Right.
- 54:12And it's like the the whole premise of the song.
- 54:15And like also like as I was learning Tanya and like the concept of clipa is that really everything is good.
- 54:20You just have to peel it off.
- 54:21And like, trust me, I've had relationships with people that came into my life or.
- 54:25hardships that have happened to me and if I could just like peel off the clip of it and see the good in it and the peeling off clip is work.
- 54:31It's like hard work.
- 54:32It's not necessarily always easy.
- 54:34But knowing that we're inherently good is like.
- 54:37So I believe that.
- 54:38Oh my gosh, I cannot believe the boy uses his ears.
- 54:40Do you listen to it?
- 54:42I listen to all of it.
- 54:43I think that like real...
- 54:46I spend my entire day trying to make the world a little bit better.
- 54:49And I think that if we saw the good.
- 54:52I'm so excited by the way to be friends.
- 54:54Like, I think that if we saw the good in people, it's so much easier to connect.
- 54:59Yeah.
- 54:59Because, like, I so desperately want everyone to see the good in each other.
- 55:06And I spent, I literally spend my entire life trying to help people see the good in themselves.
- 55:11Wow.
- 55:11So it's very meaningful to me.
- 55:12Yeah.
- 55:13It's a crazy song.
- 55:14Okay.
- 55:14One Safer Everyone Should Own.
- 55:18I mean, easy.
- 55:19Tanya.
- 55:19Okay.
- 55:20Yeah.
- 55:20I don't own that, so I'm going to go get one.
- 55:22Okay, get the green one.
- 55:22It's so pretty by Chaya Miller, the cover.
- 55:25But, like, is it in English?
- 55:26Because I read everything in English.
- 55:28Transliterated.
- 55:28Okay.
- 55:28And, yeah, learn it with Chase Taub or Tanya with Fagey, either one.
- 55:32Got it.
- 55:32One lesson from the Balsham Tov everyone needs today.
- 55:42I'm going to say in Omovado, that there's nothing that exists that is not.
- 55:48Anything that exists has it only.
- 55:50Sorry.
- 55:51Anything only exists because Hashem is pumping life into it.
- 55:54So if it exists, that means that Hashem is within it.
- 55:59A moment recently where you clearly felt Hashem guiding you.
- 56:13How recently does it have to be?
- 56:14It doesn't have to be so recently.
- 56:15Okay.
- 56:16So a few years ago, we decided to move.
- 56:19It was like a pilgrimage for us.
- 56:21Like we were living in one, within the five towns.
- 56:25711 or whatever.
- 56:27Yes.
- 56:28781.
- 56:28We name everything by our whole house's address.
- 56:31Like our whole family talks about addresses.
- 56:33Like, where's the Fabring?
- 56:34Where's the Sharabachos?
- 56:3645, 25, 10, 14.
- 56:39We moved to be closer to our Rav, to our Reba, to our Shul.
- 56:44and the many different ways that Hashem opened it up for us to be able to move there and to be there and recognizing the change that it had on me and my husband and my family, and it's still happening and affecting the whole TYH movement, that was totally guided by Hashem.
- 57:00And I know Hashem wrote the story, and I was just walking it.
- 57:03I love it.
- 57:04I love it.
- 57:05Complete this sentence.
- 57:07Okay.
- 57:08The biggest thing people misunderstand about faith is...
- 57:17That like it's universally accepted.
- 57:19I think every single person's interpretation of faith and what they feel is faith and how they feel Hashem is unique to each person.
- 57:26I love that.
- 57:29Looking back, if Hashem had shown you 10 years ago exactly where you'd be today, would you have believed him?
- 57:35Oh my gosh, I think about this all the time.
- 57:40All the time.
- 57:40I'm like a huge Facebook memory person.
- 57:42Oh, me too.
- 57:42Me too.
- 57:43Yeah.
- 57:45It's my first thing I do in the morning.
- 57:46I say good morning to Hashem and Hashem responds to me and says, Tov Shabbat.
- 57:50He's so happy that I came.
- 57:51And then I open up my Facebook memories because I was like a big Facebook person.
- 57:55And I look back at those pictures and I'm like, oh, my goodness, if I only knew where I would be.
- 58:00And it's like 13 years ago.
- 58:01I'm like 13 years ago I was doing this or like 16 years ago.
- 58:05So I would have been flabbergasted.
- 58:06I just like I also turned 40 this year and I can't wait for like...
- 58:10Even more.
- 58:10I know.
- 58:11I also feel like with age is so much beauty.
- 58:15Like I used to be, I used to cry on my birthday every year.
- 58:19Not anymore.
- 58:20No.
- 58:20Not anymore.
- 58:21I'm like, what a gift.
- 58:22Such a gift.
- 58:23What a gift.
- 58:23I get to change every single day and figure out my life.
- 58:25Like, thank you, Hashem.
- 58:27Thank you, Hashem.
- 58:27Okay.
- 58:28One last question.
- 58:32Did you have to live every chapter before you can understand what mattered?
- 58:40Now I'm going to cry.
- 58:41Yeah.
- 58:43Yeah, you have to.
- 58:45You can't just get to the light and the party and the fabring and, like, all the glory without having to, like, really, really go through it.
- 58:54And, like, the hardships.
- 58:56And I don't want to say hardships or challenges because, like, I always, like, I'm at the point in my life where I kind of look forward.
- 59:00I'm like, oh, this is where Hashem put me.
- 59:02Let me figure this one out.
- 59:04But really, yes, very much.
- 59:06And I think that's a deep lesson also, like in Hasidus, like Shavei pulled Tzadik the come.
- 59:10Like the Tzadik didn't get to the place where he needed to be without falling seven times.
- 59:15So like sometimes I count how many times I fell and then I'm like, was it seven yet?
- 59:19Like, are we there yet?
- 59:20Or this idea that like everybody has to travel 42 muscles, 42 journeys before they get to Eretz Yisrael.
- 59:27And I feel like that's my goal.
- 59:28Like my goal is to be in Eretz Yisrael very soon.
- 59:31I had a five year plan.
- 59:32I have like six months left for it.
- 59:33So like I'm really like rushing.
- 59:35I don't know how I'm going to get there.
- 59:36But having like my father used to always say like a piece of the rock, like to get there, you have to live it.
- 59:40You get to live it.
- 59:41But if you live it with Hashem and you live it with the right intentions and with the right...
- 59:46and the right music and surrounding yourself with people who are growing.
- 59:50Like, that's like my tagline.
- 59:51Go where you grow.
- 59:52Like, someone told us that when we were moving.
- 59:54And it's like, oh, like, I just want to keep growing.
- 59:57So if you ever feel yourself stagnant, you're like, hey, we're.
- 1:00:00I don't ask for troubles or hardships or whatever.
- 1:00:02But seeing everything as a challenge and to climb it, it's like, yeah.
- 1:00:06I love it.
- 1:00:07Figi, thank you so much for being here.
- 1:00:09I really appreciate it.
- 1:00:09I'm like, sad this is over.
- 1:00:11I know, me too.
- 1:00:11Thank you.
- 1:00:12Thank you.
- 1:00:12I appreciate it.