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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, September 28 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, September. This is Jaguars Happy Hours. Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hours blocked you by Jet BWn Loans. Hey, now
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  Speaker 1: a guy who wants to be your tree surgeon, Jay's
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  Speaker 1: It's a long story. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour. That's
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  Speaker 1: what happens on a mini by weekend. J P. Shadick
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  Speaker 1: in studio, Tony was Sally and Pete Prisco with us.
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  Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday. We'll get the
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  Speaker 1: review of the Jaguars Dolphins game. Didn't go so well
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  Speaker 1: for the Jags. We'll recap that one, put it to bed,
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  Speaker 1: and move forward to Cincinnati. We're on to Cincinnati. Defensive
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  Speaker 1: adjustments are needed, certainly early in the game for the Jags,
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  Speaker 1: who are down or they gave up three touchdowns the
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  Speaker 1: first three drives from Miami. The offense has been playing
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  Speaker 1: catch up because of that. We'll get to social questions
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  Speaker 1: in the second hour and we'll go around the National
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  Speaker 1: Football League And here we go, guys, Pete, I must say,
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  Speaker 1: this must be what every Sunday is like for you
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  Speaker 1: watching all these different games around the league. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm usually sitting here watching the Jags and have Red
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  Speaker 1: Zone on but not really watching it yesterday, flipping around
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  Speaker 1: all the different games sitting at the house. That's pretty neat, man,
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  Speaker 1: it's a real neat. But you know what's keeping up
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  Speaker 1: with all the scoring can be hard. The way these
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  Speaker 1: defenses are playing a right god, up and down, up
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  Speaker 1: and down, up and down the entire day. But I
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  Speaker 1: love it, you know, mean, I love offensive football, but
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  Speaker 1: I think these defenses are terrible. Right. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: the defenses catch up sooner or later? Pete didn't we
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  Speaker 1: say this though on the show. We thought there would
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  Speaker 1: be a lot of points early in the season because
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  Speaker 1: nobody tackled in the angles and you know that whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: I thought there'd be a lot of points. Do they
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  Speaker 1: catch up? I don't know, Tony. Are the quarterbacks that
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  Speaker 1: good now? The quarterbacks that good? The rules favor them
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  Speaker 1: to that much of an advantage? Well, I think the
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  Speaker 1: rules the quarterbacks being not just good throwers of the ball,
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  Speaker 1: but so athletic, and put so much stress on the defense.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's really hard to defend um. I also
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  Speaker 1: think they do catch up a little bit. I think
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  Speaker 1: the tackling is just atrocious. And I watched I'm doing
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  Speaker 1: the Ravens Chiefs game tonight and watching the Chiefs try
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  Speaker 1: to tackle, um, the Chargers. I mean it was like
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  Speaker 1: the worst tackling ever seen. The Falcons terrible in the
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  Speaker 1: second The Falcons tackling was terrible in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 1: And you know the jagbuoards didn't tackle great the other
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  Speaker 1: day either. Yeah, so I think they do catch up
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. Um, but I still think I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the era of great defenses, you know, um where it's
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  Speaker 1: you know, winning games ten to seven. I mean that's over.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's never coming back. Not hold the team that.
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  Speaker 1: If you hold the team that, that that boyd you like
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  Speaker 1: it's like a shutout back. I mean, because I'm just
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  Speaker 1: talking about this game with them doing the cheese. I
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  Speaker 1: watched the Chargers Chiefs and they held the Chiefs to
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  Speaker 1: twenty points in regulation, and it was like I thought
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  Speaker 1: I was watchings. I mean, it was like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: my home's only points. Um. I still lost in overtime
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  Speaker 1: by three. But yeah, it's it's so hard to defend
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  Speaker 1: people right now. All right, well, let's speaking of defense.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start with the rug Wars defensive performance this past
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night against the Miami Dolphins, another slow start, three
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  Speaker 1: consecutive touchdown drives to start the game. Well, it took
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  Speaker 1: the Dolphins a little longer to get down the field
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  Speaker 1: this time than it did the previous two weeks. In
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  Speaker 1: weeks one and two, there were quick strike touchdowns to
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  Speaker 1: start the game for the opponents. Twelve play drive and
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  Speaker 1: just under seven minutes of six play drive three minutes
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  Speaker 1: and change, and then an eleven play drive in over
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  Speaker 1: seven minutes. So the Dolphins dominated time of possession. And
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  Speaker 1: that's a that doesn't give your offense many opportunities to
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  Speaker 1: bounce back feet when when you're giving up the long
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  Speaker 1: drives like that and they're all kept off with touchdowns.
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  Speaker 1: This is a trend, though, It's got to stop for
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  Speaker 1: the Jags to to really have a chance moving ahead here.
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  Speaker 1: How does it stop? You're not any good on defense.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest about it. That's not a
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  Speaker 1: good We thought they'd be a bad defense, at least
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  Speaker 1: I didn't. I know, Tony do you didn't think they'd
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  Speaker 1: be a good defense either. And you you have all
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  Speaker 1: those guys that you know opted out or the couple
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  Speaker 1: of guys one opted out, one was sick um would
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  Speaker 1: they have made that much of a difference to this team.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows. I doubt it. You have young secondary, you
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  Speaker 1: have a rookie corner who's a good player. He's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a really good player, but he got towards the
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  Speaker 1: other night. That's what's gonna happen the line. But I
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  Speaker 1: think Jack and Schober are fine. I think if you
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  Speaker 1: had people in front of them to keep them clean,
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  Speaker 1: they'd be they'd be more than adequate. Uh, you can't
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  Speaker 1: rush the passer. You're not big in the middle. You
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  Speaker 1: can't push the pocket in the middle. Chason got pushed
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  Speaker 1: around in the run game. I mean, there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things that aren't working. It's not a good defense
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  Speaker 1: right now. Well, Pete, I mean, um, yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 1: Uh overall, I think, I mean, I think Miles Jack's
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  Speaker 1: played really good. I mean, but if you go, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if we're honest, I mean, you go, let's just go.
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  Speaker 1: We have a three game sample now, still early. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I really think you start understanding who a team is
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  Speaker 1: and get a good sense of it. You know, game
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  Speaker 1: four through eight, like you know five through eight, that
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  Speaker 1: second quarter, like you really get a sense of kind
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  Speaker 1: of war your head. But if you look at the
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  Speaker 1: first three games, UM, the Colts never punted, never punted
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  Speaker 1: the entire game. It took just two awful throws by
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  Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, which I'm still trying to figure out what
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  Speaker 1: he was looking at, UM to get them out of
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  Speaker 1: the field. The Titans scored thirty three points and punted
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  Speaker 1: zero times in the first half. I'm I'm mistaking maybe
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  Speaker 1: once and a couple of times in the second half,
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  Speaker 1: but you really never You did a great job against
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  Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. UM. But if you watch the Titans play
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  Speaker 1: now after three weeks, that's a team built around Tanny
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  Speaker 1: Hill as much as anything right now. I mean, Derreck
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  Speaker 1: Kenry is still the power runner and they they'll go
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  Speaker 1: to when they need to. UM. But you look at
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  Speaker 1: it even last week against the Vikings and chunk yardage.
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  Speaker 1: When they got back in that game, they started slinging
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  Speaker 1: around and they're doing it without a j Brown, who
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  Speaker 1: probably is their best wide receiver. UM, and so he
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  Speaker 1: lost that game. But you gave up thirty three points
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  Speaker 1: just just like not stop, let's not forget. And then
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  Speaker 1: you look at the Dolphins, who never even thought about
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  Speaker 1: punting in the first half until the last drive when
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  Speaker 1: you had to get a stop so you don't go
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  Speaker 1: down seven. You did it. But this is not a
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  Speaker 1: good defense, and he's given no signs that it's a
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  Speaker 1: good defense. And I'm not saying it can't get better.
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  Speaker 1: It's still early. They have young players. You expect them
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  Speaker 1: to get better, but I wonder where the production is
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  Speaker 1: gonna Like I like Josh Allen. I think Jason has
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  Speaker 1: a chance to be a good player in the future.
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  Speaker 1: He's learning a new position. Let's not forget he didn't
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  Speaker 1: play defensive end at L s U. More of a linebacker. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna be a good player. Yeah. And I mean
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  Speaker 1: about Tavid Bryan in his third year. He he is
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  Speaker 1: what he is. He's a He's a rotation guy. I pask,
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  Speaker 1: that's it. That's all he is. And that's fine. Adamson
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  Speaker 1: and so they're just hard try, hard effort player. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Abrey Jones run plugger. Hamilton's a run plugger. They had
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  Speaker 1: no pressure from the middle. Nobody can provide any pressure
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of whatsoever. It's not very good And
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  Speaker 1: Journegan is gone. Um that journey can go today. What's
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  Speaker 1: the rationale behind that? I don't think he was playing
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  Speaker 1: very well. Nobody's playing very well. So he got player
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  Speaker 1: that they're gonna bring up. I don't know what their
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  Speaker 1: planet is. Who they add they added? Let me look
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  Speaker 1: at the practice squad again, but they added somebody off
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  Speaker 1: the squad today. Yes, well there's just I just noticed,
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  Speaker 1: why are you wearing the coat and tie? We're just
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  Speaker 1: coating time. I can't barely see him on my screen.
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  Speaker 1: I had to we shoot a television show before this show.
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  Speaker 1: So nice, thanks, I appreciate that. Um. Yeah, so all
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  Speaker 1: except from the head up, you can't do much Therapete.
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  Speaker 1: But here I mean, yeah, okay, yeah, okay, glass houses there, Pete, careful,
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  Speaker 1: Pete and j P. Here's the reality of this team,
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  Speaker 1: if we're honest. Um, everyone got way too excited after
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  Speaker 1: you know, week one and week two, and you can
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  Speaker 1: say you did You did too, Pete, eleven and five,
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  Speaker 1: you did well? That was what I said there, eleven
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  Speaker 1: and five before the season ever started. I never backed
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  Speaker 1: away from my five and eleven. And I don't think
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  Speaker 1: they're getting the five um stop stopped of his truck.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a it's a young team, and and it's
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  Speaker 1: a team that we said this year, the most important
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  Speaker 1: thing is to figure out do you have a quarterback
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  Speaker 1: or not? Is he the guy that you can build around?
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  Speaker 1: And we're three games in and after two games, everyone locally,
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  Speaker 1: national media, I mean everyone was like, he's the guy.
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  Speaker 1: In my comments to everyone when I would get asked,
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  Speaker 1: is he a franchise quarterback? And my answer has been
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  Speaker 1: consistent the entire time. I don't know, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: have to make the decision right now. And that's why
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  Speaker 1: you play sixteen games, and you want him to be
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  Speaker 1: able to play sixteen games so you can get a
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  Speaker 1: good feeling for what he is. Because at the end
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  Speaker 1: of at the end of this year, you think about it,
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  Speaker 1: he'll have twelve starts under his belt from last year
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  Speaker 1: and hopefully six team starts. Unders about this year, it's
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight starts. You should have an idea and know
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  Speaker 1: whether you're gonna build around the guy or not. I
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  Speaker 1: bet you're leaning more towards NO now than you were
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  Speaker 1: a week ago. Where do you sit? I'm leaning more
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  Speaker 1: to would no. I'm actually this is the same exact
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  Speaker 1: spot I was last week. When you asked me last week,
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  Speaker 1: I said, you know, I don't know I mean he
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  Speaker 1: does a lot of really good things. I like. UM.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he digressed in his pocket presence. I thought
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  Speaker 1: he was really poor in the first half. UM in
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  Speaker 1: the second half, especially the last in the last quarter
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  Speaker 1: of the fourth quarter, he was getting killed. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think the offensive line after Cambrarobinson went out played very
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  Speaker 1: well in these passing only you know, obvious situations. They
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  Speaker 1: struggled before that. I thought the pocket was fine, but
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  Speaker 1: he continues not to drive the ball down the field consistently. UM,
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  Speaker 1: And he is very uh at times. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why he looks uncomfortable in the pocket when he
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  Speaker 1: has a queen pocket. There's like after one Mississippi to
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  Speaker 1: Mississippi three, like two and a half Mississippi, it's like
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  Speaker 1: I gotta go, It's time to go, When I gotta
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  Speaker 1: get out here, it's almost like he doesn't see or something.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. But but Tony the first I think
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  Speaker 1: it was the first third down of the game, he
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  Speaker 1: tried to throw short in the flat to a guy
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  Speaker 1: on the right side, and he had the receiver were
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  Speaker 1: clearing on the next level and didn't even try and
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  Speaker 1: take the shot, didn't even try it. That guy was open.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta take that shot. That's a that's an eighteen
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  Speaker 1: yard twenty yard completion. That's my concern when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to the quarterback, that's the concern. Now. In fairness to him,
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  Speaker 1: though he had two big drops and this team is
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  Speaker 1: not good enough. You know, we were talking about this morning,
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  Speaker 1: Um Chris Conley drops that third down conversion on Like,
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  Speaker 1: what what happens if he catches that and they go
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  Speaker 1: down to score? Is it a different game? Very well?
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  Speaker 1: You know, you like you compare, like you look at
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  Speaker 1: Seattle yesterday and DJ Metcalf, you help blows a touchdown,
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  Speaker 1: but that doesn't matter for the Seahawks because they got
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  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. They're gonna go score another five touchdowns somehow.
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  Speaker 1: This is a team that cannot afford. They're not good
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  Speaker 1: enough not to take advantage of those opportunities. And I
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  Speaker 1: think what we saw in the first two weeks offensively,
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  Speaker 1: they took they took advantage of every one of those opportunities.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't have any of those in the stakes really
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  Speaker 1: outside of you know, maybe an interception that was a
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  Speaker 1: poor throw by Minshew and after the review wasn't even
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  Speaker 1: a bad throw. He just was you know, miscommunication who
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  Speaker 1: he was throwing it too. So I think it's the
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  Speaker 1: reality is it's a team that doesn't have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of margin for air on either side of the ball.
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  Speaker 1: They have to do things really well. They're young, and
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  Speaker 1: there's questions about some of the I think where you
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  Speaker 1: have talent where you don't, And it's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: season of ups and downs if we're honest with each other.
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  Speaker 1: And he didn't have chart in fairness to he did
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  Speaker 1: not have his number one wide receiver. But here's the thing, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: I get that, and that's fine, but this this links
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  Speaker 1: played with that the number one guy a lot of times.
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  Speaker 1: And guess what all I heard and all we talked
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  Speaker 1: about is how great these young receivers are. Well that
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  Speaker 1: if you really have a great room, losing one guy,
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  Speaker 1: does you stay your number one guy? Though? Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: mean Atlanta scored some point yesterday and move the ball
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  Speaker 1: down didn't play that well yesterday without Julio Jones. He
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  Speaker 1: did a ready order. He threw the rid ether for
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  Speaker 1: under two yards in total passing off. Then he threw
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  Speaker 1: the ridley fifteen times and the numbers didn't reflect that.
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  Speaker 1: Look at the Saints without Michael Thomas. Is that the
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  Speaker 1: same passing offense? They dunked it down all night and
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  Speaker 1: the Packers still never stop them. Well they do. First
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  Speaker 1: of all, they dunk it down all the time, even
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  Speaker 1: when Michael Thomas isn't there. Yeah, okay, and Rogers, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: Alan Lazard, he was once in jack Bar. A bunch
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  Speaker 1: of former Jags had days yesterday. By the way, later,
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  Speaker 1: yeah we will. We'll get to that when we go
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  Speaker 1: around the league. By the way, Daniel Equality was promoted
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  Speaker 1: to the active roster from the practice squad defensive tackle. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: He was a free agent undrafted by Cleveland and eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: He was on the practice squad there last year. Played
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  Speaker 1: in seven games for the Browns and had four tackles.
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  Speaker 1: Washington State product, he was promoted. Well, they better, They
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  Speaker 1: better hope he's a combination of Alan Page and Marlon
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  Speaker 1: Alton in their pride, because otherwise it won't matter. We're
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  Speaker 1: back at a moment. On that note, we'll take our
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  Speaker 1: first time out, jon JP. I mean, Pete Presco is
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  Speaker 1: a bad person. Is no a kid aquality? Doesn't even
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  Speaker 1: have a chance to show him with what he can do,
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  Speaker 1: and he's putting all kinds of pressure on the Kenyon.
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  Speaker 1: They need somebody in the middle to do something. Jack Sign.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to this later. But everyone talking about the
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  Speaker 1: Bengals like, hey, let's get to two and two. That's
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  Speaker 1: for first. You know, you know, good start to four games.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't rush, if you don't hit. Joe Burrows
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  Speaker 1: he got hit and he was hit eighteen in the
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  Speaker 1: game yesterday. We'll get to that and still through four three.
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  Speaker 1: It's a difficult position to play because you know, you
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  Speaker 1: it's um you know, that type of mentality, and and
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  Speaker 1: we drafted him, said coach Doug Barone today discussing c J.
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  Speaker 1: Henderson Jaguar's first round traffic Cornerback and Welcome Back Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour on this Monday week four, JA said to
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati this week, j P, Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli,
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  Speaker 1: Glad you're along with us today on tin ten A
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  Speaker 1: m and Jacksonville and Jaguars Facebook, Jaguars Social channels and
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Dot Com. Yeah, c J, as you mentioned Pete earlier, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it was, let's say, a tough night at the office
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  Speaker 1: for c. J. Henderson after he's had some good performances
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: early in this season, especially week quality at the interception,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: uh five tackles that game with physical, made some some
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: physical plays really the first two weeks, but then Week
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: three comes along Thursday night, doesn't touch the guy down.
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  Speaker 1: I remember a play later in the game as well,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: where it was like third and two. It was a
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  Speaker 1: quick out to the right and he's five seven yards off.
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  Speaker 1: It was just overall, not a great night for c J.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, how does he bounce back? How does
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: a guy like this that has talent, that has drafted
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: so high, how does he bounce back from a night
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: like Thursday? He just goes in play right? I mean
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: the first game, it's one game we've seen many a
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: young cornerback get torched. Uh. You know Jalen Ramsey, for
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: as good as he supposedly was at his moments where
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: he got torched. You can play a lot of man
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: coverage and you and your young kids. You're gonna get torn.
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  Speaker 1: Even if you're an older player, that a player, you're
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: gonna get beat when you play man coverage just the
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  Speaker 1: way it is. Yeah, it's over. I think it was
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: not a great night for him. Um, but he plays.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: He plays a position where you're in you know, you're
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: in the spotlight, and you literally couldn't play sixty snaps
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  Speaker 1: perfect and three have three bat snaps, and everyone did
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: think you're in a bump. Um, I just refused. I'll
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: say it this way. C J. Henderson is not this
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: defensive issue. Like he is on the right spot. Like
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: the fact that we're focused on him is a mistake.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: He's not the problem. No, he's not the problem, and
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be a really good player. I'll be honest
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: with you. The one concerned that I had with him
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: was his tackling. And I think, aside from not touching
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: down a guy in the first couple of weeks, has
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: been he's been think about this and I said this
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: on the broadcast, this would be a preseason game number
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  Speaker 1: three for the kid. Usually you guess what he just
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: got done playing high school and college football where you
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: don't tag them down because they're down like it's it's
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: not the end of the world. It's one play. Come on,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: we're making much of it. I agree, but he still
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  Speaker 1: should somebody should, Tony. Come on. I'm not saying you
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't know better, Pete, but if you're gonna kill this
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  Speaker 1: kid for for that one player, that's stupid. Look isn't
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  Speaker 1: the mental lap. So I'm not killing him for the
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  Speaker 1: way he played. If you had a grade him on
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the way his career started so far, he's probably a
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: B player. He's played to a B level right now. No,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: he's an A as a first round draft pick with
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: no preseason, the offseason, everything else. The way he's performed
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: in the first three games. But the first game he
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: was very good, in the second game he was very good,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: and the third game he was a C plus B minus.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: So it's a bat. He's a bat. No, no C
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  Speaker 1: plus A plus plus. What's the point two? He's giving
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  Speaker 1: out grades on here like they gave out at USC
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: when he was a stupid pass pass um All right, Well, obviously,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the big part of this defense, the the issue is
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: a big issue is the lack of pass rush. Three
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: sacks this here, they only have a handful of quarterback
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: hits in comparison to a lot of other defenses in
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: the league. Now, part of that is they haven't had
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: the lead except for five minutes this year. You've still
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: got to get home a little bit more than this one. Yeah,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: here's the issue I have is if you watch that game,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: it's not just that they weren't sacking them. They weren't
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  Speaker 1: even bumping into him. They weren't even like in his face.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: They weren't flashing. I just don't don't even remember. I
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: don't remember the five quarterback hits. I don't remember them. No,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I don't neither. He was sitting back there, like stepping
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: up like it was like seven on seven form. It
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: was ridiculous. And it's not like that was a good
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: offensive line. So that's the big concern. Now they have
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: two good those two good. Those rookies are gonna be good.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Austin Jackson is a good play and Kimdley is gonna
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: be a good player. Yeah. I agree, But but again
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: it's the third game. You just said the same thing
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: about you should beat him. Someone should have been there, right,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: and Alan sack by the way one, Really that's a
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: that's not a sackay. So let's think about their sacks.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: They have three sacks. One was an effort to play,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: one was a Miles Jack inside rush, and the other
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: one was chased on he rushed inside. Sah, that's right
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: to beat sad, But that's it. So they have one
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: sack where a defensive lineman slash pass rusher has beat
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the guy one And here, you know what, you got
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: a chance this week because that offensive line I've seen him.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I've seen him live, I saw him on tape and
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch this tape again here so I'll see
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: all three games. Um, they're not good, like they're bad.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Bobby Hart right tackle, he stakes. They have Jonny Williams
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: who's basically a rookie because he would missed all last
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: year at left tackle, right and he's okay guard. The
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: guards are no good, no, and the center's decent. He's
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: not bad. He has a chance. But that's it. They
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: should get right this week. Then what you're saying they need,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: they should they need. If they don't get four sacks
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: and ten quarterback hits for eight quarterback hits, that's a
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: it's a problem because Joe Burrow and that's and they
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: got skilled positions. Now they have five wide receivers who
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: can threaten you, and they got Joe Mixon. If they
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: don't get after them, it could be it could be
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: not good. Well, what about the Cincinnati Bengals. Radio people
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: are all probably sitting up there saying, off, your offensive
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: line is gonna get right. This is the chance to
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: get right. They don't rest all right? I said that
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: this morning. Everyone everyone in Jackson said, oh good, the
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Bengals have an easy schedules. You know what. Everyone Cincinnati saying,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: we can get our first win of the year. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: obviously yeah. They the Eagles sacked Burrow eight times and
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: they hit him eighteen times in the game yesterday. It
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: was I had it on one of my games on
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I'm watching the games and he was just getting brutalized
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: And to kid man, does he doesn't flinch? How about
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: the Malik Jackson put on him? Malik Jackson lit him
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: up one time with a penalty, but doesn't flinch, gets
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: right back up there, stands in the pocket and and Tony,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: you know, you talk about young quarterbacks and pocket presence,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: he has it well. And there's no if you watch him, Pete,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: there's no bouncing around or just he stands tall, and
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I remember watching him against Cleveland and I'm
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: sitting there watching the whole game and the game before
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: against the Chargers, and I'm going, at some point he's
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: gonna get a little bit gunshot because he's getting hammered.
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  Speaker 1: And he just stood there and stood there and just
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: it's it's really impressive. Very it's gonna be a star.
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  Speaker 1: I'm already on records saying he's gonna win one or
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: two Super Bowls in the next ten ten years. How
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: about that. It's a lot of competition too, by the way.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: You know what's interesting about that too? About him, Um,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: he wasn't good enough to win the job at Ohio State,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: and his first year at l s U, everyone's like man.
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  Speaker 1: Then fourth fifth rounder, and then he gets the right coaching,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: right system, and he's a star. And know what, that's
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  Speaker 1: who he is because that's what we're seeing so far.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: And and he has a chip on his shoulder. I'm
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: telling you, you know me, I've been around. I talked
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: to the guys, I've talked to him on the side,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: and I think I told you guys this story. I
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: asked two uh at the Super Bowl. I said, if
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: you had been healthy, would you have come back around
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: and won the National championship? And he went, I don't know.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: We can't say that, you know. And I told Joe
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Burrow that story because I like a quarterback and says, hell, yeah,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I would have. I told Joe Burrow that story and
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: he goes yeah, and he goes, you do realize that
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: we beat him when he was there? Right? Yeah? I
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: mean that's the kind of kid he is. He's got
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: the chip on his shoulder. Yeah, he's uh, never forget
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: he's a good one. They got their quarterback. Now they're better.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: If the Bengals have half a brain, they'll go look
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: at what happened to Andrew Luck his first four years
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: and say, you know what, We're gonna spend the next
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: two drafts. We're gonna get four offensive linement in the
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: first two rounds each of those drafts. We're gonna build
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: the best offensive linement line in the NFL because we
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: have the kids. Or or you spend money to go
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: get one or two, but there's a young, young one available.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: You spend money ago get one, but you build drop
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: into line around him. Yeah, like you wouldn't and un
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: bock the area because he's getting a little older. You
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: want to die, who's six years old, it's twenty seven
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: years old. That's what you don't want to end up
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: like Indie did with Andrew Luck and lacerated organs and yeah,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: WHATSSELLI shoulders did to David Carr. I'll take a lot
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: of stuff. You're not putting that on me. No, but
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: if you had been there, you would, if you were healthy,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: you would. They would have had a better offensive line.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: But that's not the story that I hear. Anyways, they
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: can talk all day one about his offensive line. He
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: went home at five o'clocket. Well, let's not go down.
• 28:43
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• 28:50
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• 28:55
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• 28:58
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  Speaker 1: You know, I found out out you know what I'm
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  Speaker 1: this guy's gonna be able to hold onto the football
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  Speaker 1: when he gets hit in the NFL? And I think
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  Speaker 1: back James Robinson, what a start it's been to his
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  Speaker 1: NFL career and welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour, j P, Shadrick, Pete, Frisco,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Boselli. Uh and yeah, let's flip it around here
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  Speaker 1: to the offensive side. And this has been a fantastic
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  Speaker 1: bright spot for the for the Jags so far this year.
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  Speaker 1: Robinson is the only undrafted player in NFL history to
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: post at least three hundred scrimmage yards and multiple touchdowns
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: through three games, and his scrimmage yardage total of three
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  Speaker 1: thirty nine is the most ever by an undrafted player
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: through three games. I don't know if you could ask
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  Speaker 1: for much of a better start than we've seen from
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: James Robinson. Pete No, and again, you guys know my
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: theory on running backs. You can find them anywhere. They
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: found one. He's tough, he's physical, he can catch the football,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: he's a willing blocker in the passing game. What's not
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: to like about the kid? He is their guy right now.
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  Speaker 1: He will be there starting running back for a while.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what, They traded away Leonard Fournette, and
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: granted there were other issues there, but they looked at
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: this kid. They said he is what Leonard four Nette
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: is not. He makes people miss. Uh, And he's a
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  Speaker 1: good kid around the locker room. And not that Leonard
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: that was a bad guy. He just that he didn't
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: fit with what they wanted to do. It makes all
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the sense in the world. I love the kid. I
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  Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a big time runner. Well they yeah,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Well they didn't trade Leonard. They let him go. That's
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: why I said they got rid of him. Said they traded,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: You said trade? Yeah, I mean I thought I expect
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: more from a national person. But they got rid of
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: They dumped him usually at yeah the yeah, he's listen.
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  Speaker 1: If you flash those stat's back up. The one thing
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: that stands out you gotta get more touches in the
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: run game. You only had eleven carries against the Dolphins.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: That part of that is because you're playing from behind,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: so it's hard to stick to the run. But everything
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Pete SAIDs right. He is h He's a good back,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: he can make you miss, he's good in space, he's
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: you know, I think the only question you would have
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: is is he a home run threat? You know, we
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: haven't seen him. You know, we've seen him make like
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: the twenties thirty yard run. You know that was the
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: one knock. I guess of him coming out was his
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: forty time and I don't know what it was actually
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: at the combine, but four or six they said, I
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: think it was. Yeah, So I mean that was only
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: but he has enough short area speed and quickness that
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: he makes people miss and he whatever he ran at
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: the combine, he plays faster than he ran. The home
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: run was Emmett Smith at home run threat? Yeah, I
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: think he was. I mean he had the ability to
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: take because I don't think his forty time was much
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: better than that. What what did you say? He was
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: JP four six four the combine. Yeah, that's slow. And
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I don't remember when Emmet ran to get the combine,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: but I don't know it was four five something, remember, correct?
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: But if you run four six at the combine and
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: you play and you run four six with pads on,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: there's certain guys pet you know this, that whatever they
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: run at the combine, they were just as fast or
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: faster on the field for whatever reason. And there's guys
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: who can run four four at the combine and they're
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: get in the game and they put pads on there
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: like a four seven, right, And I've seen received Emmett
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: ran four seven. Is that possible? M hm No. Emmett
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: in Gainesville at the Pro Day ran at four or five.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: To take that. At the combine he ran four seven. Wow. Wow? Yeah,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: how about that? That's that's kind of who you remind
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: you a little bit of is. I mean, I'm not
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: gonna say he's Emmett Smith, but you know what I mean,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he put on Twitter Twitter, Presco says
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Dame Drumson is the next Smith. He's building the bust
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: already for him. No, put it out here. He runs
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: like him a little bit, he said. He said he's
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: at Smith tom Brady in the pocket, But I don't
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: think he's Tom Brady. Um. Yeah, he's listen. He was
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: the bright spot of that game, without a doubt, and
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: he's been, you know, one of the big bright spots
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: of this entire team in three games. I mean the
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: fact that you found him undrafted and you go from
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: thinking that Leonard Bournette was gonna play at his contract
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: here to cutting him. I mean, let's not forget. I mean,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Leonard was about eighty percent of the offense last year. Year.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Whole offense ran through him. You you get rid of
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: him and you go to the undrafted guy. I don't
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: think anyone could imagine it working out as well. And
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: it was ahead. It was real good. Good for him
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: to have that game on national TV Thursday night, not
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: people know who he is. Yeah, and remember last year
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: the Jags had three rushing touchdowns all season, and Robinson
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: has three through three games, so he can find I'm
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: saying that's it's it's as good right now. Three and
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: three is the same Tony, but he's off to a
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: quicker pace. Let's say once they get down there, at
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: least he can he can punch it in when it's
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: time to touchdown. Stats can be overrated at times to
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: a little misleading. Yeah, but only three for the entire year. Yeah,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: that's not misleading at all. That's just not good. Um,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: and they were not good at that last year. Now,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Gardner's game. We touched on this earlier as well. And
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: obviously Week one, nineteen or twenty efficientists can be uh
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: not a bad outing. Week two, you know, statistically at
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: least a couple interceptions in the game. But then on
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Thursday night interception no touchdowns, was playing catchup all game?
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: What did you see at a gardener on Thursday night
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: and is it concerning and can he bounce back? Or
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: is this what Gardner is going to be? Kind of
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: hot cold? As we move along, Pete, what do you think?
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I think this is who he's going to be. I
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: think you can look great for little spurts and look
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: awful for others. That's who he is. He's inconsistent. He's
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: a six round pick who's six ft tall, doesn't have
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: a big arm. I mean, what do you expect him
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: to be? I mean what what could anybody legitimately expect
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: him to be? To be the franchise quarterback? That's I mean,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: that's not happening. You know. It happened with the sixth
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: round pick in New England. But he also happened to
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: be six ft five and had a good strong arm.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, there are limitations to his game. And I look,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: you gotta love the kid for alls, moxie, the way
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: he handles himself, being a professional. He plays hard, he's competitive,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: but there are limitations. That's the reality of it, and
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: you can't sometimes you just can't get over those limitations.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Someone made the comparison to me, and I want to
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: be your opinion on this. I'm not sure, how where
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I land on it? As they said, Gardner Minshew is
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: a young Ryan Fitzpatrick. Like he can get he can
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: get hot for some games and then he will disappear
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: for games and play poorly, really badly. And yeah, yeah
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: that makes some sense. Smart quarterback knows where to go
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: with the football, doesn't always have the biggest arm. Yeah,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I mean that's a decent comparison. I would say so,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: and and look that means he's gonna have a long
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: career in the NFL, but he might not ever be
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: the star that you need him to be. That's that's
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: why when people say, have you decided if he's the
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: franchise quarterback? If you think he's any way, shape or
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: form Ryan Fitzpatrick. And I can remember the Bill start
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick was their franchise quarterback. Remember pay him And
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: at the time I thought that was a major mistake.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you get caught in situations where you are what
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: you are and if I'm Jacksonville, I'm not sure he
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: is going to be the guy that can lead me
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: to where I need to go. Answer the question you
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: need to ask yourself this tonty, and there aren't many
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: of them. If everything is going bad, and the defense
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: is playing bad, and the receivers are playing great, the
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: running game is not working. Is he a quarterback that
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: can rise above it all and lead your team to
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: a victory? Well, I look at it, and I say
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: it differently, Pete. I always say, you know you have
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: your guy when you look at him and say he
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: can lead us to a super Bowl and to lead
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: a team to a super Bowl outside the officer, and
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I think it's Moreaba. I think it's even more imperative
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: now because the way the game is constructed, in the
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: rules that are around it. Um canna can he take you? Like?
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Can you say he could take me to the super Bowl?
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Because they do that. There's a be moments during the
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: season where he has to put you on the team
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: on its back and like just rise above and get
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: it done. And and I think that's the question. If
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I'm you know, sehan Don and Dave Caldwell and Doug Marone,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I'm that's the question I'm asking myself myself. Is he
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: the guy that at the end of it I can
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: see holding the Lombardi Trophy on the stage after winning
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl? Right? I mean, okay, let's say the
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Jets are asking themselves that question now with Sam Darnald,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: aren't they. I mean, these are legitimate questions and and
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: and the reason I bring up the Jets is they're
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: probably gonna be one of the worst. They're gonna probably
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: not win a game this year. They're bad. And so
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: now do the Jets now take Trevor Lawrence and take
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: you out of that sweep stakes if you have a
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: bad year and you can talk all you want Tony
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: about oh well, you don't want to take your head.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: You don't what yes you do, because if you get
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrens, just like the Bengals now have Joe Burrow,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: you will be set for a decade at least. So
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: that matters. And that's why I don't know if he
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I'd lean more towards the know right now, because the guy,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: when you see him, you know it well, I mean
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: to me, it sounds like you've already made the decision.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: He's not the guy I'm leading that way. And I
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: don't want I didn't want to. I don't want to.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I like the kid. I think he's a good competitor
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: and good player, but you know what the guy looks like. Okay,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I'll give you one. Josh Allen. You knew he looked
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: like that, and people said, oh, he can't do it.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: He won't do it. He's a agative. But you can
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: take what he had and turn it into what he is.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Over the last fourteen games, thirty three touchdown, three picks
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: for Josh Allen. Some people I know we're right about
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Some people I wonder who that is. That
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: would be me. How about this scenario, What if Gardner
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: it's better and they win eight games and they get
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs somehow, and the defense plays better, like
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's a playoff team or close
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: to it, or knocking on the door. Well, and that's
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: what he's got a show in the next thirteen games.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: He's gotta show that he could stand in the pocket
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: and not leave because Tony's right, he's still doing it,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: and not start spinning around and feeling herky jerky in
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: the pocket. It's not just when he leaves the hrcy
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: putting the ball in his hands like this. He does
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: that a lot too. That is not what it looks like.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: By the way, you know what I'm talking about. You
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: know exactly what I'm talking about. Yeah, it's a I mean,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: here's the thing. You don't have to decide right now though,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: in thirteen games. No, but you can start rooting against yourself. No,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: it's too related to that. Well, you got you gotta
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: winning eleven games and they better get on a little
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: run here. They're gonna get hot. Are you amending that? No,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: it's too early, But that means that that means you
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: have to take another because that was one you had
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: in the pocket. Let means you have to find the
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: eleventh game somewhere else. Well, yeah, the Vikings, I'm picking
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: that one back up because they're terrible. They're they're bad,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: they're bad. So there's one. I got one back right there.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: You're sticking to eleven. This is a muscle win though
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: this week JP I think he's coming off of it.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: This this is one where you have to have I'll
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: be honest with you. If they don't win this week,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I'm worried about the five that I said, who who's
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: after the Bengals, the Texans and then they're terrible. They
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: lost to the Chiefs, the Ravens, and the Steelers. Yeah,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: they're going three against three really good teams. We have
• 45:53
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• 45:59
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• 46:01
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• 50:00
  Speaker 1: some roster moves today. We mentioned the defensive tackle added
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: to the active roster from the practice squad earlier. They've
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: assigned a kicker as well. Stephen Hauska signed to the
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: active roster. The veteran now in his thirteen NFL season,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: most of that time, most notably was with Seattle. He
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: has a Super Bowl ring with the Seahawks, spent the
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: last couple of three seasons with the Bills, and as
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: an eight six percent field goal kicker in his career,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: so he's on the active roster. The Jags also waived
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: injured Brandon Wright, who injured his growing in his NFL
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: debut Thursday night, and they've added Aldrich Rosas to the
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: team's practice squad. So some kicking transactions today. Pete not
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: not ideal. Two more weeks for Josh Lambo at least
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: on injured reserve, and Doug Morone said that he's recently
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: come off crutches, so that was a little jarring to
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: the ear today. Yeah, that's not a good thing whenever
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: your kicker goes down. But I mean the kickers. I'm
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: a big believer that the kickers nowadays are better than
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: they've ever been across. And we've lost Pete. Will get
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: back to him coming up, Tony, are you well? We
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: lost Tony as well, so um, we'll get back to
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: those guys in a moment. Yeah, two more weeks at
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: least for Lambeau and as I think Pete was about
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: to allude to, their the kicking around the league is strong,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: really has been strong over the last couple of years,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: especially things getting better. Peter, are you back with us now?
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: You gotta heah, we lost we lost you guys. Sorry, well,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: you might have hurt each other, but the folks listening
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: did not hear you two. Sorry well, I was saying
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: that the kickers are better than they've ever been. So
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: if you have a guy go down for a little
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: period of time, you should have a decent kicker ready
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: to step in and and and play. And the sad
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: thing is that more kid that they picked up NFL
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: experience and he pulls a groin puzzle. Mean, that was
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: going to be his job for a while, right, what
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: what's isn't that what Lampa has to a groin? Hip?
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Hip injured? Okay? So different? Did he hurt that tackling
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: somebody or something? But I don't remember him. Did he
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: get blocked or so when? What did he hurt that?
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: It was during that game that he kicked it into
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: the line. I don't know if that was during that time,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: but it was that game, so I don't remember that.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Should we go to our resident expert on hips? Not me, Um,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: not even a smile. You got him on his shoulder earlier.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Now the hips, you're just you're mean, you're a bad person, um,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: But I mean that poor kid though, right is an opportunity.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a kicker and missed the extra point?
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Did he heard it on the extra point? I don't
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: know exactly. Must must have well he was gonna get
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: said packing after that game anyway, after the missed extra
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: point wasn't good. So um, but obviously they would love
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: to have Lambeau back in the fold at some point.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: He's been pretty darn close to the perfect throughout his
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: time of the Jags. But again, think about that for
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: a second. They picked him up off the scrap, right.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: So you know, kickers they get hot and they get cold.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: You know that, unless you're Baltimore's kicker, he just stays
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: hot all the time. Lambo has been hot this whole
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  Speaker 1: time here. He's never been called right what I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: he was. He was released by the Chargers. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't understand that. But that's a loss. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: when you when you know you're gonna win tight games.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't see the jag Wars blowing people
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  Speaker 1: out this year. I mean, the kicker becomes very important.
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  Speaker 1: You see a lot of type games, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: THI games. You need that kicker. Probably need the kicker.
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  Speaker 1: They might need the kicker this week though. Actually, um
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: some other changes today. They Jaguars released Timmy Journagan, who
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  Speaker 1: came here during training camp after the opt outs and
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  Speaker 1: the retirement. Uh so he did not last long here.
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  Speaker 1: And Leon Jacobs with a knee injury Thursday night is
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  Speaker 1: on the reserve injured list. He's done for the years.
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  Speaker 1: That was bad. I hated seeing that for that kid.
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  Speaker 1: Did they show it on TV? Because I couldn't. We
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: didn't get a good look at it. It was almost
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: like a noncind like he just went down planet was
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: it was no contact as a player who played in
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  Speaker 1: the league, any relation to those kind of injuries to
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: not having camp. I don't think the knees, most of
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  Speaker 1: the knees if you look at most of the c
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  Speaker 1: ls and people be getting rolled up on that just
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  Speaker 1: happens it Or like Barkley when he planned yeah yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: one yeah, But who knows? I mean, isn't it isn't
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  Speaker 1: isn't it the story every time Pete like something changes
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  Speaker 1: in the off season or preseason or something's different and
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: this is because this X Y and Z we practice
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  Speaker 1: last or practice war. I mean, who knows? And I
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  Speaker 1: think every year with the injuries, it's the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is worse than has ever been
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: And it's like the same every year they're bad. It
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  Speaker 1: happened it's part of football. Guy, it's a it's a
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  Speaker 1: violent game. You know that, guys get hurt. Yeah, unfortunately. Yeah.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: So the Jags have had their share already in training, camping,
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• 55:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, guess there's more. There's probably more social questions
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  Speaker 1: this week. After a bad loss, is my guess. Usually
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  Speaker 1: The Jags did sign a kicker today as well, Stephen Haushka,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: with Brandon Wright being waived injured with his groin injury
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  Speaker 1: in his NFL debut Thursday night. UM an early jump.
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  Speaker 1: We're just gonna get one here. I just saw a
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  Speaker 1: tweet come in for social questions talking on the defensive
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  Speaker 1: side here, The question is what's the split on the
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  Speaker 1: defensive side as far as who's at fault between scheme
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: and execution? Is it play calling? Is at mental errors?
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  Speaker 1: And can it be improved? What's the field there? Tony? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I mean I don't think it's scheme JP watch him,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: UM Like, I don't see anything that is um unsound
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  Speaker 1: or you know, like they're getting out leveraged or just
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know bad, you know scheme. I don't
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  Speaker 1: see that. Now, you know, we're not at practice obviously,
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  Speaker 1: so how it's being taught, how it's being communicated. I
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: mean that's part of coaching too. So much of it
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: is everyone just wants to talk about scheme and you know,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: the excess and those part of it obviously very important,
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  Speaker 1: but also a big portion of coaching is can you
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  Speaker 1: communicate what you're trying to do and can guys understand
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  Speaker 1: it and can they execute it? Um, And so we're
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: not there, I have no idea. Ah, I've always thought
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Todd Washing is a good coach. Um. I think you
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: also have to look at the people you have on
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: the field and look how young this defense is. And
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: I think we knew there was major issues going in. Um,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: they lost the guys they brought in to stop the
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: run and to plug up the interior of that defensive
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: line to make it stronger. It gets to push in
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: the past game in the pass rush, they're not there.
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  Speaker 1: And the guys that you know, you know, you have
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of you have a bunch of guys in
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: the interior that are rotational players, and you have a
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: bunch of young guys the outside. I don't think Chase
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  Speaker 1: on you know, I think he's got as the opportunity
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: a really good UH football player. But we you gotta
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: remember he's going from an outside linebacker and now he's
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: playing an every down, you know, defensive end, and that's
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: gonna take time from the figure it out. So I
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: think it's I think probably more than anything. Everyone's at
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: fault always and so it's always dangerous. Say well, it's coaching,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: it's players. It's usually both when you're not playing well.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: So I think both. I think both of the coaches
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: and the players need to do a better job. But
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: if you're looking for the magic bullet, I mean I
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: saw I read some or someone on Twitter said, oh,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: you know, go get Wade Phillips to come in as
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: a consultant, or you know, fire Todd Wash, don't do
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  Speaker 1: this or that or whatever. I mean, there's no magic
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  Speaker 1: bullet out there. Um that all of a sudden you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna go from struggling uh to you know, being great.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: And if you look at it, look at the first
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: two games. After the first quarter and a half, they
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: played good defense, but they are big holes. They were down.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: So they gotta start faster. They're gonna be more consistent,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: and they gotta find the pass us they I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the biggest thing with this team right now is they
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: gotta they have to learn to it. They have to
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: figure out how do they affect quarterback. Maybe it's blitzing Moore,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: Maybe Todd washing us to get out of his comfort
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: zone a little bit and blitz more. It sounds like
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: they hand be more aggressive. It sounds like they have Tony.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, they've they've pranked up the heat percentages. They did,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: they did, But maybe you gotta do more. I don't.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, but they need to do something. Yeah, but
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: what happens if they do more? Tony? What do you do?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: You you expose the young secondary and man coverage all
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: over the place, and it's it's slow death or fast death.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Thank your pick? Right? Is that what it is? Yes?
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: What would you do? I want to hear what you
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: would do? Um, I think i'd be more aggressive. You
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: gotta start creating turnovers. I don't think you're gonna be
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: good enough just to line up toe to toe with teams.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think you gotta get after him
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: a little bit. I think, yeah, I would do I
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: bring miles Jack Moore. I yeah, I'd stunt and I
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: line up in the A gap and come after people more.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: I don't. I just I'm with you. I would get creative.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: You can't just sit back there and let them pick
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: you apart. You don't have to. You know, ideally, any
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: defense and you know this would love to be able
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: to get home with four guys. They can't. Yeah, I
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: mean Todd Wash has always said that. And then they
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: were able to do that a lot. Remember back in
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: seventy that's how they played a lot of the defense
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: that years, rush for drop seven and make some big plays.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: But they also have some different personnel back. But that's
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: the Seattle way. That's where Gusts came from. That Gusts
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: came from Seattle where they play that cover three and
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: rushed with the four guys and get pressure and now
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: and Todd Wash kind of learned at the foot of Gusts.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: So where's what does Gusts doing? Sit with the Chargers
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: now and they're good, they're good defensively, right. So it's
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: not a matter of scheme. It's a matter of players.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: You have to have your players. You have to fit
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: the scheme to the players that you have. Okay, so
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: what would you do with chas On then? No, I
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: mean I'm not saying I think. I mean I worry
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: about like when I see him and Josh Allen out
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: there together, which they JP Amy snaps they did that together,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: but I saw it more and more against Miami. And
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: if you get it tied into him, I mean he's
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: I mean he's not a big he's not. He's an
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: undersized not undersized, but you know he's a smaller defensive
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: and if you were all tied into him now with
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: a SUDD, he's getting doubled. I mean, it's just it's
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: a different game. And and I'm not saying he can't
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: do it. Like I think he's super talented. I like him,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: but I just no preseason abbreviated camp and he's playing
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: a position he did not play in college. I mean, JP,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: you watched a lot of SEC football. He was a
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: stand up linebacker the most part. Yes, absolutely, Well what
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: was Josh Allen? He was at Kentucky. You stood up
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: a little more than he put his hand down. Also, okay,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: so why wouldn't you stand them both up then and
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: go and put three big guys inside and go to
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: the more three four. My question with that would be
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: Jack and and Showber hold up as inside backers in
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: that but Harvard, you can't do that then there in
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: the middle of season, you can't make that decision. I'll
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: be honest with you. I probably would have thought about
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: doing that before this. Yeah, but here's the thing. Season together,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: in a regular off season, maybe right since you were
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: on the field with wasn't that the plan last year?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: That when that was the that was if a got
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Way had showed up normal at the usual time that
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: he and Josh Allen were going to stand up and
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: never played more of a three four? Could you play?
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Could you play like the Broncos do with those two guys?
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: Do anything you want? You did? You have to put
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: it in? Why didn't they put more of it in?
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: And and they maybe they didn't feel confident with a
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: young football team making that many changes and they had
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: all the opt outs and a bunch of changes going on.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can get it. It's hard. Who would you?
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you had to play that way, you'd
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: play what abriy on the nose or Hamilton's on the nose?
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: You'd play Taven, Brian and Gostus. But you could do it. No,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: but it's a different scheme. Pete. You don't just know.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: You don't just wake up. You don't wake up wake
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: up Monday morning said well, okay, but when you drafted
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: two hundred fifty pounds stand up linebacker to go with
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: your other two two or fifty five pounds stand up
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: linebacker in April, you think about it, that's fair interesting offense. Now,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: of course, the we touched on James Robinson in the
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: first hour of the program and how his start has
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: been its historic is what it is. He's the He
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: has the most scrimmage yards of any undrafted player in
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: league history through three games. And you can't ask much
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: more of James Robinson. The quarterback play last week statistically
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: was not there. But it's week three. We've got a
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: long way to go, Pete, and this is a group
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: that we saw flashes of what they could do earlier
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: this season. As an offense, he's got to see a
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: little more consistently. What's got to be frustrating two fans
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: out there is one of the things that everybody talked
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: about was if the offensive line gets better, then they'll
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: be better. Well, the offensive line has been better up
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: until late in the game when Camber Robinson went out.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: The other day Cam Robinson has played better than he's
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: played at any point in his career. He's played really well. Yeah,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: and I think the two guards are playing well. Linda Shatley,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: Linda wasn't playing to his level that you normally expect. Um,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: but I thought Chatley did a good job stepping in
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: and the right tackle up until late in the game
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: last week had been pretty good. That line hadn't been
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: an issue, and so I think they can get back
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night game. Yeah, it was a you know, the
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• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: him if you do have your Now the question is is,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know what the injury report is, but
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  Speaker 1: back for that game, there was no Geno Atkins, no,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: no Mike Daniel right, and they are they back this week?
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen any reports yet. No, But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: much more difficult. Hey, Tony, what do you make of
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  Speaker 1: the sorry would you make of the ejection of cam Robinson?
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  Speaker 1: Do you see the replace? I thought it was bogus.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, he's on a I'm a
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  Speaker 1: who's on top of him. People are on top of me.
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  Speaker 1: You try to get up pushing people around, and I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and it happened to be the officials arm I just
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: don't think if your officially you throw the flag there,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: you give a little bit of you have to understand
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: their circumstances. It wasn't like Camber Robinson was purposely going
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: after the official, which if you do in contact official
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: in that way you should be ejected. But in that circumstance, no,
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was important. I thought it was a
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: really poor call. But the official overreacted and did not
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: take into account you know where they were, what was
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: going on? Um fighting for the ball? I mean, I don't.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: I thought it was really poort. I agree. I thought
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: that was a terrible call. By the way Daniels played
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: against the Eagles, so he'll be in for sure. Um,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: I look at the official. He overreacted to something that
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: he thought he saw and felt that wasn't there, and
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: and somebody should have stepped in and said, look, I
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: saw it. It wasn't that bad. It just you don't
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: do that in that pile. Bit at a pile, you
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  Speaker 1: know what goes on, and there guys are flowling and
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: trying to get up and get out of there. That
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: was a terrible call by the official. I thought, yeah,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: unfortunate for the Jags, certainly for Cam Robinson. All Right,
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  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson ejection last week. According to the fine schedule
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  Speaker 1: offense fine for against a game official physical contact with
• 1:16:39
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• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: by the way, if you watched the video, there were
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: he one hand of one official and then a hand
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: of another official. So I'm curious if it's one offense
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  Speaker 1: or two. I'm guessing it's one since it's one ejection,
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  Speaker 1: but a second offense would be seventy one hundred dollars
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's adds up quick. That is pricey, though
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  Speaker 1: hands on a on an official, I don't know, good
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  Speaker 1: question problem like maybe like maybe just to tap him
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  Speaker 1: or something and get his attention. Maybe you wouldn't never
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  Speaker 1: tried to push an offish or anything. Oh no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I mean we've got some fights. I mean, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: it didn't like you're fighting and officials trying to break
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  Speaker 1: it up. I'm sure you touch him by accident or
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  Speaker 1: sure you'd have been about You've probably have been thirty
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  Speaker 1: five grand light or a couple of different times then.
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  Speaker 1: But Pete, the rules were so much more relaxed back then.
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  Speaker 1: They were you could almost thrown the official to the ground.
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  Speaker 1: It was so load. I mean you like had I
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  Speaker 1: mean you get kicked out like it had to be
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  Speaker 1: like a closed punch to a player like you could.
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  Speaker 1: I mean the things you used to get away with
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: back in the day, huh. I mean it's true. I
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: told you that story. I was sitting around with some
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  Speaker 1: offensive lineman a couple of years ago out in Arizona
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: at Bentley's Place. Out there, we were watching the Packers
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: Cowboys game from when Reggie White and Gilbert Brown and
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: those guys were playing that Cowboys offensive line. They wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have last ten plays the way those guys were going
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  Speaker 1: at each other. I mean and they some of those
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  Speaker 1: guys might have got arrested for some of the stuff
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  Speaker 1: they did. It was incredible, you know. I mean we
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: used to get guys in the ground. If you got
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  Speaker 1: a guy in the ground, you would go after him,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: diving form to head, face masks in their back. I
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: mean you were just like gouging them and then like
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: beating the hell out of them on the ground. And
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: by the time you had played the rules that calmed
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: down a little bit. Since those rules and even go back,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: as you go back a decade, each decade, the rules
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: have gotten amazing. Yeah. But the Gilbert Brown, Eric Williams
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: that was about. That was when I was coming in
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: the league. So that's when you were coming in the league. Yeah,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: and so you can do I mean you could. You
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: could cut guys in the back of their legs. I
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: mean you could. I mean there were Broncos. The Broncos
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: used end careers all the time. Yeah, I mean you
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: just went after him, brutal. Let's get to social questions now,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: Tony's favorite segment. The first question at night from at
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: Jacob Reinhardt Too was Thursday a fluke for Minshew or
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  Speaker 1: have we seen his ceiling? Thanks Love, you guys. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I don't like. Yeah, I don't know. Um. That's the
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  Speaker 1: question I have is what we saw in the first
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  Speaker 1: two weeks of the season, is that his ceiling Is
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  Speaker 1: that like the best of Minshew? I hope not. I
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: hope he can still get better. And I'm holding out
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: like belief that he's going to get better throughout this season.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say it's a fluke and we have
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: not seen the ceiling. But that's a great question and
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: we'll find out to the next thirteen games. But how
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: do you separate numbers from the ceiling? In other words,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: he's gonna his numbers were good last year and his
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: numbers so far pretty good this year. But has he
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: been good? Has he been you know what I mean? Tony?
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  Speaker 1: You gotta divide them, take the numbers and push him
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  Speaker 1: to the side sometimes and just watch him to make
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  Speaker 1: your determination. The other day was not good. I don't
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  Speaker 1: care what his numbers were. It was not good. The
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee game a lot of really good. It's not bad.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: The Indianapolis game, the numbers were good, but he didn't
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  Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field. Grading opening day was
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: quarterback rated guy. No, No, he's not, And how many
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: throws has he completed down the field? There was one
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: to Chark for sure that got Shark hurt. But you
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  Speaker 1: have three games and you can almost think about him
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  Speaker 1: on off the top of your head without it right
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  Speaker 1: the chart. Well yeah, but commonly had a dropped this
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: week on the underthrown one, that would have been a
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: big play. M hm um, yeah, not a lot right. See.
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  Speaker 1: So I think the answer to that question is Thursday
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  Speaker 1: might have been an admiration of some sorts. But I
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  Speaker 1: don't know where the sea. I don't know if the
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: ceiling is that much higher than what we've seen already
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: from him. And that's the scary part. I think it
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: goes back to the other thing. I mean, because he's
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: still young quarterbacks, you want to give him time. But
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: when I can't get over and I'm not saying it's fair,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: and I could be this could be so wrong. Um,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: Like when you think about Worries at his young quarterback,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: his numbers probably like Kyler Murray. Um, go back, you know,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: think of a guy like I'm thinking of shorter guys
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: like uh Russell Wilson early in his career. Um, let's
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: just just just think Murray and Wilson younger in their careers,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: probably similar numbers. Min Show's numbers might be better. But
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: don't you have didn't you have a different feeling about
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray because of just the talent,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: the armed talent that they both have, Like they can
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: just make throws that are unreal and and Minshew is
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: good escaping, but he's not a runner. They were runners.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: They're both runners. Like, but yeah, that's where I keep
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  Speaker 1: on getting stuck with Minshew mentally, like, and I go
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: back and forth because I wanted to be able to
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  Speaker 1: do it and I wanted to be the guy because
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  Speaker 1: it be great. Um, but you knew that those guys, like,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: you know, Kyler Murray has a high ceiling because of
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: his freakish that's letic ability and the howitzer he has
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: for a right arm. You knew that Russell Wilson had
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: a huge, like off the chart ceiling because of his
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: freakish athlete and I mean he has a gun and
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: he is as accurate as any quarterback in the NFL. Like,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: so you knew like the like if they could figure
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  Speaker 1: out the pace of like Russell Wilson's issue was pocket
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: presidents work in the pocket, not getting out too early,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: and like you felt like, hey, give him time, he'll
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: figure that out. Um. And when you think about Minshi,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: what is like what like what does he do exceptional?
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: Like like he's like he has moxie, his composure, he
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: is that kind of in fact, are all very important,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: but it's not like he's a top level athlete, does
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: not have a big arm, and so those are always
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: things that you're going he's gonna have to work around.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: Here's all you have to do is look at the
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: game this week and look at the two quarterbacks. Did
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: you know, looking at Joe Burrow, they had their guy?
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: Know it? Three games don't be three but you know,
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna let me ask you a question. Do
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: you know that Arizona has their guy in Kylamurley? Yes, yeah,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: I think you're right too, and I tend to agree there,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah you do, do you? But that's why I mean,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: this game is a perfect example. He's played more games
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: than Joe Burrow, many more games. But you know what
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, you don't know with him yet. Well, and
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: like it's funny if you go, like if you go
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: over the last three years of young quarterbacks like Baker Mayfield.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: Do you know he's the guy? I don't. No, Um,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: m Josh Allen, you do, now you do? Lamar Jackson, Yes,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: Mahomes obviously yes, Um, Sam Donald don't. No, I don't.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: You don't know, you don't. And he's an sc guy.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: I want to say yes, but I don't. But I mean,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: could you. I mean, that team is terrible. It's it's
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: unfair to ND. But again, if you put my Homes
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: as is with the Jets, would would you know that
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: Mahomes was the guy? I don't know. It's hard. They're
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: so bad, they're awful. And if you look at Darnald,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: he has expect he has armed talent, and he's had
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: moments like last year where he was good at the
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: end of last season, yeah, six and two. So it's
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: it's it's a hard position to make judgments on. And
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: that's where Carson wentz the guy. Wow, that's a great question, Beau.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched any Eagles games. He's been awful, Tony awful. Yeah,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: before he was m VP guy. Yeah. But we'll bury
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: guys quick and we'll annoint guys quick. I mean we're
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: we I mean we all Cam Newton, we thought was done,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: was never gonna play football, were quarterback at the high
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: level again. And he goes to New England. He's getting
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: paid a million dollars and they're they're gonna compete, They're
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: gonna go to the playoffs probably, and they're gonna give
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: the Bills a run for their money in these I
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: think the Bills are better. But it's gonna be a
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: great It's gonna be great. Well, he went through the Belle,
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• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: World crazy, how will the Jaguars defense be able to
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: stop Joe Burrow, Deshaun Watson, Matthew Stafford, Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rodgers,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and Nick Foles. Okay, first, I'll take Nick
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: Folds out of that, like you can't put him in
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: the same categories those other guys. Yesterday Okay, he didn't
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: even complete sixty his passes. Yes, Um, no, I think
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: I think we have a hard time. Shaun Watson isn't
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: playing that well right now as I watched the tape. Um,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen Stafford this year but staff played well yesterday.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: Roethlisberger's put that back up. Roethlisberger is playing well, Um,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: Rogers playing great, Roger Free, Lamar Jackson is unclereal. Yeah,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: that's a it's a. Here. Here's the advice. If you're
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: playing in fantasy, make sure you play those quarterbacks that
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: come on you're you're terrible. Well you want to win
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: your fantasy league. That's your fantasy advice. And go back
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: over that list. Yeah, I've got it. I've got it.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: So Joe Burrow even coming out of that list of
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: those quarterbacks that you see right there that are up,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: who um, which of the which? Which one? Which are
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: those quarterbacks with the Jaguars beat I think they'll beat Watson,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: Davin beat Watson once. They might beat Burrow. They amn
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: beaten h with that defense, they ain't beating the rest
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: of them. One thing about Matt Stafford, his team might stink,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: but he he slings it around. Now, well, I mean,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: but that's you have to take the teams. You don't
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: think they'll beat the Lions? No, I don't. Okay, of
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: this grouping in here, Okay, that's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: Where are you getting eleven wins at who they be.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: Who are they beating out of that group? Burro Okay,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: we'll just say Burrow, Okay. Bowls, there's two um and
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: Watson twice. That's four and five. When they play when
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: we always when we we we always beat their Steelers.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: That's six. When they play folls, all you have to
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: do is yelled at him, Nick, you're starting. Remember you're starting.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: You're not a back, You're starting. I said that to
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: that the other day. I did a hit the other
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: day on that on our stuff, and they said if
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: I was Matt Maggie, I'd make Rabinsky play the first
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: place of full could come up the back. He's more comfortable.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: It's hard to argue that. Our next question at six
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: with it is Taven a boss, why won't they sign
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: a free agent to help? Alden Smith was signed off
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: the street and leads the NFL and sex So the
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: narrative that there's no one available to help is false. Well,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: wait a second, all the Smith thing is unique. I mean,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: the guy was out in the league. I mean, it's
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: a great story, and he actually ran into Mike McCarthy
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: in the offseason and that thing was broken. I mean,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: and so they take that mean that's yeah, you can't
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: can't count it never happen, um fill He isn't feeling
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: a rule that they really, I mean they have to
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: suppose it pass rushers that they build around here. They
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: need big bodies. If you're gonna you're gonna kill Taman,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna replace him with Alvin Smith. That's not
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: the sat. They don't play the same position. Is Taven
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: a boss? No? Is he serviceable? Yes? Is he anything more? No?
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: So you're saying he's not a bus for a first rounder, Well,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, considering he was picked out of Lamar
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: jack that is amazing when you think about that. I mean,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is arguably you know in quarterback. Where would
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: you put Lamar Jackson? Ranking him in quarterbacks today? Top five? Yeah,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: think about it. They passed on they could watch the
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: game tonight. They passed on the homes for Leonard Fournette.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: They passed on Lamar Jackson for Tavin Bryan. That just
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: that hurts my feelings. You're gonna be doing the game tonight,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: you could sit there in their entire time thinking about
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: what could have been. Yeah, the Lamar Jackson then, I
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: mean the my homes like I don't like any of those,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: but like maybe I remember sitting there at that draft
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: and we were talking like Lamar is on the table still.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's still there on the board of me.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: You can go get him, and uh, obviously they didn't,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: and the Ravens did. Everyone in Baltimore is happy, but
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: going to be as good as he has now. But Pete,
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: I disagree with that. I think people like new he's
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: remember watching him in college. He's a freakish. He's a
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: freak when it comes aft like you watch them like,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: it's unbelievable watching him against NFL players, how he makes
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: them look. And now you know what he's doing in
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: the pocket. He's standing there slinging it and and everybody
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: in the Ravens organization says, first one in, last one out.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: So he's working his butt off to get better, and he's, yeah,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: I'm better. I get him all the credit of the world.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't think he'd be as good as he is.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: He is really good. Our question the only reason. I mean,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: you know, he's still young. It's probably early to say
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: his bust picked in the twenties, but is he at
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: first is he giving you first round production right now though.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: But but I'm gonna reference a guy that was picked
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: in the twenties that played for you guys, Ronaldo Win
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: was picked into twenties. Is he as good as Ronaldo Win?
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: It's hard to say because we're all those on some
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: good teams, good defenses. So would you he wasn't good? Yeah?
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think so we're all over. No. Our next
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: question from that the Josh Hampton is now the time
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: to pay DJ Chark realizing how important he is to
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: our offense. Well, they're gonna pay him eventually anyways, So yeah, no,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: I pay him at the end of the year, not
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: during the year. Pay at the end of the year
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: when he was one year left before the third years
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: over anyway. But yeah, he's gonna get paid. He's gonna
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: get a new contract. That's not He's a building block.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: You pay building block. That's right. I agree, simple enough.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: And the final question from at S two under school
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: winners real talk, chaps. If we lose to the Bengals
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: this weekend, are we done for the season? What do
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: you mean? I don't even know what that means. What
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: do you mean? What if you run? What did you
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: run off? Twelve in a row. He's not like you
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: talking about the playoffs, is he? They were done before
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: they kicked the ball off an opening week? Oh, they
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: just well they're not a good team. And that's okay.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: What is It's not okay? First of all, trying to
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: win games. It's not okay at all. But Pete just
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: said it's okay. You lose, it's okay. Well you're building something, participating,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: that's great. You can get orange orange twice is in halftime,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: everyone gets, everyone gets the trophy going for pizza after
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: the game. You could have you should have kept a
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: bunch of the veterans around. You could have went seven
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: and nine maybe, and you've been that. You've been stuck
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: in purgatory forever. It's better to lose games and get
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: out of Okay, wait to say what veteran would you
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: have kept? It would have added any game. I wouldn't
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: kept any of them class maybe Yeah, that's only one
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: I can think of. But I'm saying, why not? Just
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: realized this season is what it is. It's about developing
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: for next season? Is that a bad thing? It's Week four? Yea,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: it is? It is. When you peg him to win
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: the left No, it's not the reason. It is when
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: it's only week four. It is when you like, that's
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: what this season is before they kicked off the building
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: for something else, and when you thought this team has constructed,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: wasn't winning. It's not winning. What if they're two in
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: one right now? Even if that's true, I don't want
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: to hear it. Well, I mean it's not even October,
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: not even October yet, it's September already. I mean, they
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: got a whole season left the next but Pete is
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: saying JP and he might be right, Pete saying they
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: have zero chance of doing anything productive from the win
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: lost Calum this year, and so the whole folks should
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: not be whether you win or lose, is are your
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: young players getting better? Correct? That's what people right then
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: you're going in the next year. You had a ton
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: of draft capital, but it only matter and you have
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: money that only works beat if Gardner min choose the guy,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: because if he's not the guy and you don't get
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: a top pick, then you are literally trying to go
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: chase the quarterback and figure out how to you know,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: build build the build a winning team. That is to say,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: you only got one so far. So you're still in
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: the running. We'll come back. Thank you for the social
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: That makes sense. You're your idea of Pete makes sense
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: if Gardner minshoes the guy. No, it makes sense if
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: you had the first overall pick too. Okay, but there's
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: only one of the team to get that. Right now,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: the Jets are a runaway for it. Yeah, but they'll
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: fluke into winner too. You might, but I'm not saying
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: they're gonna win one. But it wouldn't be a bad thing.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: All right, let's come back. Social questions were a hit tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for your submissions today. Wait a real quick,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: we pryb to win one game and get Trevor Larks
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: or win four and not get him win one. Yeah,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: of course, but it's week four, JP. You're missing the point.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: Pete is he is signed off, is not gonna win.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: I understand. I understand. Back in a moment, I don't agree,
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  Speaker 1: around the FC South quickly. We'll move along from that one.
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  Speaker 1: Houston Texans lost to the Steelers. They had a halftime
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  Speaker 1: lead and they were shut out in the second half.
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  Speaker 1: Three brutal. Yeah. Yeah, I think they're very good. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and they couldn't stop the running the second half. I
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  Speaker 1: mean they got beat up offensively. Um Steelers random b
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  Speaker 1: all right at him, and they didn't get bunch of
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  Speaker 1: a pass rush against Bean in the second half. And
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  Speaker 1: offensively they just don't look right. I mean, tell me
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: who scares you on that offense. Well, here's the other thing.
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  Speaker 1: What do they do well? They don't run it well.
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  Speaker 1: I can't throw it well, but he holds the ball
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: too long. The offensive line isn't good, they don't rush
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: the pass it very well, playing well, and the secondary
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: is not good. Other than that, what do they do well?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that's a good team. No, I think
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  Speaker 1: get team at best at best eight and eighteen, So
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  Speaker 1: eight nights, so you think they go eight and five
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the way. Now, I'm probably seven a
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  Speaker 1: nine team. Yeah, the Bay in a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 1: The schedules. Yeah. The Colts knocked off the Jets thirty
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  Speaker 1: six seven. Philip Rivers had passed four hundred career touchdowns
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: in the win. They won two straight after the loss
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: to the Jags. Peak, that shouldn't count. I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: Jets are terrible, but I mean they didn't dominate him though.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was like it was it was never
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: in doubt. Here. Here's the that's what you're supposed to
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: do against bad teams. Were supposed to put the game away.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: Here's the other thing about the cold. They're gonna look back,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: the season's over and go out. In the hell did
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  Speaker 1: we lose that opener? How Philip rivers up to the
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: fourth down when they should have kicked the field goal
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: to make it tend nothing that that's a bad start too. Yeah,
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: And the Tennessee Titans knocked off the Vikings thirty one
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: to thirty. Doskowski had six field goals, including the game
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: winner late and every Titan's win has been because of
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: a Gaskowski game winner. The best is they're gonna cut
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: Gaskowski after the first half of the opening night game
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: against the Broncos and now he's has three game winners.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: But they got they have defensive issues. They're good defensively,
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: they have no one who scares nobody, Nobody, nobody, and
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: I mean Davil Cook went for buck eight. Think about that.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, the rookie was going wild yesterday. They're not
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: good on defense, they can't they can't rush the pastor no.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: But offensively, their offensive line's not playing that well either.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: Tarylor Wang got hurt. I don't know what his status
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: is gonna be, but yeah, Derrick Henry and Anti Hill
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: and they got they got weapons outside. Remember forever it
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: was a team with no receivers and just you know,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: you could just run the ball. They're doing this without
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: a J. Brown, a J. Brown back A J. Brown,
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  Speaker 1: the little John Smith John Johnny Smith and Adam Humphreys
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  Speaker 1: working the slot and they're good. Yeah, it's too bad,
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  Speaker 1: too bad. They're not like the old Titans, where they
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  Speaker 1: were physical on both lines of scrimmage and dominated that way.
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  Speaker 1: They be the best team in the NFL prob I
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  Speaker 1: guess quickly power rankings in the A f C South Tony.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go, uh, you gotta they're undefeated. You gotta
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  Speaker 1: go them one. I'm going Jags too. Stay strong, And
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: he keeps saying that, well, they beat the Gold, they
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  Speaker 1: beat the Cold, they play the Colds the last week
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  Speaker 1: doesn't count. And the Texans are fourth because they have
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  Speaker 1: I'll have the I think right now the Colts are
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  Speaker 1: the best team, but I'll put the Titans ahead of them.
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  Speaker 1: They've earned it. Titans one, Colts too, Texans three. Jack,
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  Speaker 1: don't believe anything you say that's not true. I mean
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  Speaker 1: power rankings, I go Titans Cold Jags texts. I really
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  Speaker 1: drop so bad. It's close. But no, of course, the
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  Speaker 1: division standings Tennessee, Indie, Jacksonville, Houston, those are the ones
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  Speaker 1: that really matter, the a f C South standings through
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  Speaker 1: Is his quarterback? I mean, is he doing that here?
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  Speaker 1: Good question? Probably not, But you know what, he actually
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  Speaker 1: showed some ability to run a little bit less night.
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  Speaker 1: You saw it, and I don't know if you saw
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• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: the games. The Bears rallied Nick Foles rallied the Bears
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  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Another crushing defeat for the Falcons
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  Speaker 1: and dan quinn seat is red hot after a thirty
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  Speaker 1: to twenty six Bears went over the Falcons peak, he's
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  Speaker 1: in trouble. I mean, how long do you keep him?
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  Speaker 1: fifteen point leads in the fourth quarter back to back weeks.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's how can you keep him? He'll make
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  Speaker 1: Week ten, Week ten, he makes you think he makes
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  Speaker 1: it to week ten. Here's the here's the schedule coming up,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, for Atlanta at the Packers home against
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  Speaker 1: the Panthers and then the Broncos. They could win, they
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  Speaker 1: could win four, yeah, five of those outside the Packers,
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  Speaker 1: but the Packers is this week. That means they go
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: to oh and four. That's right. He might not make
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: it home after that one, and then they'll make a change,
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  Speaker 1: and then they'll play those bad teams and who rahey
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  Speaker 1: Mars will be the coach problems, Pete. Let's be clear.
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  Speaker 1: Who are their losses to so far to start the season, Seattle? No,
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  Speaker 1: yeah at home, say I mean no, not to say
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: it's the Cowboys. Cowboys, they should have won. And then
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  Speaker 1: and then the Bears. The Bears are the worst. The
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  Speaker 1: Bears are the worst three in the team in the
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  Speaker 1: history of the NFL. You don't believe in Nick Foles.
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe in the Bears. I don't believe in
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  Speaker 1: the Bears either. The Bills. You better believe in Buffalo.
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  Speaker 1: They knocked off the Rams thirty five, thirty two. Josh
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  Speaker 1: Allen had the game winning drive. They lost the lead,
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  Speaker 1: But this guy's MVP material. You weren't lying, Pete. I
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  Speaker 1: worry about their defense a little bit. It wasn't good yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: and that's all. And no, I think the Rams are
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  Speaker 1: great at scheming guys open and with all those misdirection
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  Speaker 1: boots and all that. But they were not good. But
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen is in that offense is fun to watch
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  Speaker 1: because he's driving. He's averaging nine yards of completion. I
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  Speaker 1: think it is he's driving. Let's be clear, though they
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  Speaker 1: got a break that was not pass parents. Well, let's
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: be clear. There was an interception earlier in the game
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  Speaker 1: that wasn't an interception that turned the game around. It
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  Speaker 1: was dual possession. They called it a pick and it
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  Speaker 1: should have been a pick. This guy Tony's defended this
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  Speaker 1: guy there, like I didn't be careful about the bill down. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's just believe the all critique calls all the Just
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  Speaker 1: like you guys, I thought the past interference call was
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  Speaker 1: debatable at best. All right, let's get through the rest
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  Speaker 1: of these games quickly, so you know they went to
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  Speaker 1: the booth and the and the what's his name? I
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  Speaker 1: think it was um Sator. Wasn't one of those guys
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  Speaker 1: said it was it was holding because he carried him
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  Speaker 1: past the line of scrimmage from through it. I would
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  Speaker 1: have been, yeah, well that would have given him first down. Anyways.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: Nick Chubb ran for eight and two touchdowns for the Browns.
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  Speaker 1: They beat Washington thirty four twenty. Rex Burke had had
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  Speaker 1: a big game for the Patriots. Yes, Nick, Nick Chubb
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  Speaker 1: is the most underappreciated, underrated running back in the NFL.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: He might be the best pure running back in the
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  Speaker 1: entire league, and yet they give Carri's degree month. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: The Patriots are amazing. It's an amazing coaching staff, an
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: amazing team. I thought they'd be awful on defense, awful,
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  Speaker 1: done a great job and josh Uth Daniel is a
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: great play caller. Niners over the Giants. New York stinks
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: so far. The Bengals and Eagles and an overtime tied three.
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  Speaker 1: As we mentioned, Burrow sacked eight times and hit eighteen
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  Speaker 1: times in the game. Fletcher Cox and Malik Jackson combined
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  Speaker 1: for seven of those hits. By the way. The Panthers
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  Speaker 1: over the Chargers. Teddy Bridgewacher fishing in the game, eight passing,
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: four turnovers by the Chargers. H Herbert's gonna be good,
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: but um a little reckless with the ball yesterday. Yeah,
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: but he got him back in and they if they
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  Speaker 1: hit the hook and later at the end of the game,
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: they win it. And it was there. It was there.
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  Speaker 1: Lions over the Cardinals. Seven lead changes in this game.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: The Lions went in the last second field goal. Bad
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: loss for the Cardinals. You're supposed to win that game
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: if you're going to be a really good team. You
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: gotta win that game. The Buccaneers over the Broncos. Brady
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  Speaker 1: through three touchdowns, two of those too, Mike Evans both
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: one yard scores early in the game. The Seahawks beat
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys in a late touchdown pass from Wilson to Metcalf.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: And of course, the best quarterback in the NFL. I know,
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: pay Aaron Rodgers. It's close, Josh Allen. He's gonna say,
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen, that's his guy. Mahomess is the best quarterback,
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: the best quarterback right now. This is I'm not saying
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: the guy. I'm not saying the guy would pick. I
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: pick my Homes right now for the long term, the
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: best right now, there's no one better than Russell Wilson.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: A close second is Aaron Rodgers there, but those two
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: are head and Troulders above everyone else for the way
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  Speaker 1: they're playing right now. Okay, but after tonight when Mahomes
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: boats from and four scores, you're gonna I don't know.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson right now is amazing and he has to
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: be that. When somebody asked me to said he through
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: fourteen touchdown passes already three games. I go defense, keeps
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: playing the same ways sixty of course, the Packers at
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: the Saints thirty seven thirty Rogers hard count on the road,
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: something to watch all season long. Now without any fans
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: on the road, he can do it everywhere. Yeah, but
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: the guy, the guy, he's throwing bombs and lasers off,
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: flicking his wrist for sixty five yards to Alan Lazar.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: Just think about that. The big play is a sixty
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: five yard wrist flicked Alan Lazard. Come on, everybody said
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: he was washed up. It was the biggest joke leading
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: into the scene everywhere, everybody, Tony apparently there were a
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: lot of people. I mean, JP, this is another one
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: where Pete got right. So he wants to make sure
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: everyone else was against him. All right, but you heard
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: you clearly heard the talk that he wasn't the same guy. Yeah,
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: I heard that, but I mean I washed up. I've
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: never quite heard. And the best one is they drafted
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: Jordan Love and so he's playing with fire this year.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: Then he wasn't playing the fire. Come on, give you
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  Speaker 1: a break. Time for Monday night football. It's the best
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: matchup of Week three and a battle of two of
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: the best young quarterbacks in football pat Chick Mahomes and
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: the defending Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs meet the
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: defending m v P. Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: Both teams to it all. Who you got on the
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: inner Harbor to night, Tony? Well interesting. Lamar Jackson is
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: twenty one and three in the regular season and starter.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: He has three losses. You know who Those three losses
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: are against Patrick Mahomes twice, Cleveland Browns once, and Patrick
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 1: Mahomes twice. Take it quickly, so I'll say this, but
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: the Ravens are gonna win tonight because they're gonna rush
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: for six hundred and eighty five yards against the Chief's defense.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: Homes might throw eighteen touchdowns, but it's not gonna be
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: enough because the Chiefs defense is bad. You're gonna throw
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: and they're gonna win the game in a high scooling game.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: I'll take the Chiefs. Have a great call, Tony. People
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