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- 0:00Philip Pape: If you weigh your food to the gram and log every bite and the scale still doesn't do what the math says it should, this episode is for you.
- 0:08Philip Pape: The numbers in your food log carry far more error than you might think.
- 0:12Philip Pape: And most of it isn't on the label, it's in the log itself.
- 0:16Philip Pape: Today you're gonna learn what the 20% rule on food labels really says, where the biggest error in your tracking comes from, and how to track macros so that error stops mattering.
- 0:32Philip Pape: Welcome to Wits& Weights, the show that puts a popular piece of fitness advice under the microscope, finds the hidden reason it doesn't work, and gives you the deceptively simple fix that does.
- 0:42Philip Pape: I'm your host, certified nutrition coach Philip Pape.
- 0:45Philip Pape: And this one is for anyone who tracks or used to track or quit tracking because it started to feel like a chore or tedious.
- 0:54Philip Pape: And if you're over 40 like me, you're probably working with a smaller calorie budget than you had when you were, say, 25 years old, which means that the same mistakes, mistakes you might make in tracking, and we're gonna get to that.
- 1:08Philip Pape: Hold off, don't get mad at me.
- 1:10Philip Pape: All right.
- 1:10Philip Pape: We all make them and you'll understand why this is super important for today's episode, why it's a bigger share of the total now that your calories might be a little tighter.
- 1:20Philip Pape: Now, the reason your calories are tighter is is a whole separate discussion having to do with metabolism and lifting weights and muscle mass loss and all of that.
- 1:28Philip Pape: We're not gonna get into that today.
- 1:29Philip Pape: I want to help you become a better tracker to enjoy it and to have it be useful and helpful to you.
- 1:35Philip Pape: So the advice you've probably heard, maybe from me at some point, to be honest, is weigh all your food, log it, be precise.
- 1:43Philip Pape: The math's gonna work out because you are tracking, it's going to help you make better decisions.
- 1:48Philip Pape: And then you learn things like wait a minute, food labels can be off by 20%.
- 1:52Philip Pape: Can I not even trust it?
- 1:53Philip Pape: Isn't that gonna screw up my tracking?
- 1:55Philip Pape: Why bother?
- 1:56Philip Pape: What's the point then?
- 1:57Philip Pape: Okay.
- 1:58Philip Pape: And that is a fair question that I've seen a lot.
- 2:01Philip Pape: And today I'm gonna evaluate those claims, any claim around precision of tracking and labels being wrong because there is right and wrong in all of this stuff.
- 2:11Philip Pape: And what I hate to see is when a social media person's like, well, you know, we don't do tracking in our program because labels are so off that it that it doesn't help.
- 2:19Philip Pape: No, you're making a conclusion, a leap of logic from a premise.
- 2:23Philip Pape: It may even be a false premise, but even if it's not, there's a whole chain of illogical conclusions that are going on there to get to that point.
- 2:31Philip Pape: And I don't want someone to come to me and say, Oh, I tried tracking and didn't work.
- 2:34Philip Pape: Or someone said, you know, the labels are have a lot of error.
- 2:38Philip Pape: So why would I track?
- 2:40Philip Pape: We're gonna deal with that today.
- 2:42Philip Pape: Now, if you heard episode 510, go back in the feed.
- 2:45Philip Pape: It's just a few episodes ago.
- 2:47Philip Pape: Jenny talked about a tracking lesson that took her many months to understand that is gonna tie today's episode.
- 2:55Philip Pape: So go check that out if you haven't heard it.
- 2:57Philip Pape: And then the next episode 5-11, you know, I kept telling you to hey, watch your trend weight, watch your waist, watch different data points instead of just one number like scale weight, and it's connected to proper tracking.
- 3:11Philip Pape: So this episode today is the why behind both of those.
- 3:15Philip Pape: All right.
- 3:16Philip Pape: So they all tie together nicely.
- 3:17Philip Pape: So if you haven't heard episode 5, 10, and 11, maybe check those out first and then come here.
- 3:22Philip Pape: But honestly, you can do it in any order.
- 3:24Philip Pape: Stick around to the end because I'm gonna share one change to when you log your food.
- 3:29Philip Pape: Not what you log, but when you log, that is connected to an increase from 56% to 89% of people reaching meaningful weight loss in a 16-week program.
- 3:41Philip Pape: And it won't take you any extra time.
- 3:44Philip Pape: Hmm.
- 3:44Philip Pape: Okay, first, I'm gonna go through what the FDA rule on labels says.
- 3:49Philip Pape: So you understand what companies are held accountable to when they make the nutrition label on the package.
- 3:54Philip Pape: It's often different than what I hear a lot of people saying.
- 3:56Philip Pape: A lot of people misunderstand that.
- 3:58Philip Pape: We're gonna clear that up.
- 4:00Philip Pape: And also what happened when researchers bought food and tested it in a lab.
- 4:03Philip Pape: What do they actually see when they test these things?
- 4:05Philip Pape: Then we'll look at where the bigger error in your tracking actually comes from, because you're gonna find that the label stuff isn't as much of a concern.
- 4:13Philip Pape: We're gonna get a little uncomfortable today.
- 4:14Philip Pape: We're gonna face our own demons, and it's gonna help you out at the end of it.
- 4:18Philip Pape: And then I'll give you uh how to track macros so that the error essentially cancels itself out.
- 4:24Philip Pape: Ooh, nice, right?
- 4:25Philip Pape: Sounds like math, but don't worry, it's not math.
- 4:28Philip Pape: It's just simple tactics, simple strategies.
- 4:30Philip Pape: And then also a handful of foods where being more precise is probably worth your time because you don't have to be that precise with all types of foods.
- 4:40Philip Pape: We're gonna get into all of this today.
- 4:41Philip Pape: All right, so let's start with labels.
- 4:44Philip Pape: 20% error.
- 4:46Philip Pape: This this gets repeated constantly and almost always a little bit wrong.
- 4:51Philip Pape: The rule is in the regulations for the FDA on how companies label their food packages.
- 4:59Philip Pape: And it splits the nutrients into different groups for calories, total fat, saturated fat, sugars, and sodium.
- 5:08Philip Pape: A food product is out of compliance, that's the term, if it has more than 120% of what the label says.
- 5:16Philip Pape: So it can essentially go up to 20% over in reality versus what the label says.
- 5:22Philip Pape: If it's under what the label says, the the FDA actually calls that a reasonable deficiency and doesn't care.
- 5:27Philip Pape: So it's kind of asymmetric, right?
- 5:30Philip Pape: In one direction for, again, calories, total fat, saturated fat, sugars, sodium.
- 5:34Philip Pape: For protein, carbs, and fiber that occur naturally in a food, it goes the other direction.
- 5:40Philip Pape: I'm gonna come back to protein later because it does matter for one specific group of food.
- 5:45Philip Pape: So protein, carbs, and fiber, it can't be under 80% of what the label says.
- 5:52Philip Pape: So when you hear labels can be off by 20% either way, yes and no.
- 5:56Philip Pape: It's not quite right, right?
- 5:57Philip Pape: It depends.
- 5:58Philip Pape: Calories have a ceiling with no floor, which means the slack only runs in one direction for each nutrient.
- 6:04Philip Pape: That's where it gets really confusing.
- 6:05Philip Pape: Now, you don't have to know all this.
- 6:07Philip Pape: I'm just kind of educating you.
- 6:08Philip Pape: I educated myself through the research.
- 6:10Philip Pape: It's interesting.
- 6:12Philip Pape: There are two more details, though, that people leave out.
- 6:14Philip Pape: The first one is that the FDA tests a composite.
- 6:17Philip Pape: A composite is 12 packages pulled from 12 different shipping cases and blended together.
- 6:24Philip Pape: So the rule is really related to the average of this batch of packages, not just one package.
- 6:31Philip Pape: And like an individual bag of chips can be more than 20% off, and the product would still pass.
- 6:38Philip Pape: But of course, it, you know, it averages out.
- 6:41Philip Pape: That's kind of the point.
- 6:42Philip Pape: And then the second detail is the 20% is a legal limit.
- 6:46Philip Pape: Okay, it's not a measurement.
- 6:48Philip Pape: It tells you how wrong a label is allowed to be, not how wrong labels usually are.
- 6:54Philip Pape: And those are two totally different things, aren't they?
- 6:57Philip Pape: Then there's the rounding error, which I I find kind of fun, you know, as an engineer.
- 7:01Philip Pape: I'm sorry.
- 7:03Philip Pape: Calories above 50, round of the nearest 10.
- 7:08Philip Pape: Anything under five calories can be listed as zero.
- 7:11Philip Pape: Okay.
- 7:12Philip Pape: Your your olive, your spray olive oil, be careful.
- 7:15Philip Pape: It's not, if you use a lot of that, it's not zero calories.
- 7:18Philip Pape: And then fat under half a gram can be listed as zero.
- 7:22Philip Pape: So again, that is why cooking spray can say zero calories when it's oil in a can, which is crazy.
- 7:27Philip Pape: It's crazy.
- 7:28Philip Pape: You know, one quick spray, fine.
- 7:31Philip Pape: Doesn't really matter.
- 7:32Philip Pape: But if you're like, you know, really spraying that pan or using it a lot, those add up to something.
- 7:38Philip Pape: You know, you're putting it on your food, on your salad, whatever.
- 7:40Philip Pape: You know, and the same can apply to really anything where they're rounding it down.
- 7:44Philip Pape: Heck, even diet soda.
- 7:45Philip Pape: Have you ever seen like on a large amount of it, it could actually be a couple calories?
- 7:50Philip Pape: I mean, it's it's negligible, but they're rounding down.
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- 9:48Philip Pape: All right, so how wrong are these labels in reality?
- 9:53Philip Pape: Well, they can test it.
- 9:54Philip Pape: Okay.
- 9:55Philip Pape: They've tested it.
- 9:56Philip Pape: Uh Susan Roberts group at Tufts University, who do work on energy intake, they bought some food and they put it in a lab.
- 10:05Philip Pape: And in a 2010 study, they bought 10 frozen supermarket meals and 29 restaurant items that were all sold as low calorie or lower calorie choices.
- 10:16Philip Pape: The frozen meals averaged 8% more calories than their labels.
- 10:20Philip Pape: The restaurant items averaged 18% more calories than their labels.
- 10:25Philip Pape: Um, and a few of them had, guess what, close to double.
- 10:28Philip Pape: So that's 100% more calories than was stated.
- 10:31Philip Pape: This is the restaurant items.
- 10:33Philip Pape: So a lot of people cite this study when they say, look, the labels are lying, but it was a small study.
- 10:38Philip Pape: They picked the, you know, the dieting items on purpose for that was what they wanted to look at.
- 10:43Philip Pape: But the same group a year, or not a year later, yeah, a year later, 2011, they used a bigger sample size.
- 10:49Philip Pape: They got 269 items from 42 restaurants in three states chosen at random.
- 10:55Philip Pape: What did they find?
- 10:56Philip Pape: On average, the stated calories were almost exactly right.
- 11:01Philip Pape: They were only off by about 10 calories a portion.
- 11:03Philip Pape: That's negligible.
- 11:05Philip Pape: But the spread, the variance was actually pretty wide.
- 11:09Philip Pape: About one in five items had at least 100 calories more than the menu said, and only 7% were within 10 calories either way.
- 11:19Philip Pape: So the average worked out, but the variance was a large variance, which kind of makes sense intuitively, right?
- 11:28Philip Pape: Unless you're, you know, I guess using, well, no, they're even if you had a robotic factory.
- 11:32Philip Pape: Okay, again, these are restaurants, so you're not doing that.
- 11:35Philip Pape: So forget what I was gonna say.
- 11:36Philip Pape: It's human beings putting this stuff together.
- 11:38Philip Pape: Now, for the packaged snacks, a slightly later study in 2013 from the National Institutes of Health, the NIH, they tested 24 popular snack foods and found that they average about seven calories per serving over the label, which is basically nothing.
- 11:53Philip Pape: So those are actually pretty close too.
- 11:56Philip Pape: So if we put this together, packaged foods from national brands are pretty close on average, off and off by single digits.
- 12:03Philip Pape: Restaurant food is right on average, you know, is correct on average, but unpredictable from item to item.
- 12:10Philip Pape: And the occasional dish is way off.
- 12:13Philip Pape: And one caveat here I have to note is that those restaurant studies were done before the 2018 menu labeling rule, right?
- 12:21Philip Pape: When you started to see menus have the calories all over the place.
- 12:26Philip Pape: And I couldn't find a newer study that measured restaurant food since then.
- 12:30Philip Pape: So take it with a grain of salt, pun intended, I guess.
- 12:33Philip Pape: So the label is probably not quote unquote lying to you as much as you know the headlines and social media would like to say.
- 12:40Philip Pape: It's a little fuzzy, of course.
- 12:41Philip Pape: For calories, the fuzz mostly runs in one direction.
- 12:45Philip Pape: But that leads me to where the real error comes from then.
- 12:49Philip Pape: Because if if the labels are kind of canceling each other out, then it's not really that as big of a concern except for here or there.
- 12:55Philip Pape: I'm gonna say this as nicely as I can.
- 12:57Philip Pape: The biggest error is us, us human beings doing the logging.
- 13:01Philip Pape: And this is myself included, and it's how we log.
- 13:04Philip Pape: I'm not talking about gaslighting and dismissing people and saying, oh, you're not even logging, or you don't have no idea how to log.
- 13:10Philip Pape: Not that at all.
- 13:11Philip Pape: This is legitimate stuff we have to understand about us.
- 13:14Philip Pape: The best way to check what people really eat and measure their metabolism is a gold standard method called doubly labeled water.
- 13:21Philip Pape: You drink water with tagged hydrogen and oxygen, and then over a couple weeks, researchers track how fast those tags leave your body through excretion, right?
- 13:31Philip Pape: And that tells them how many calories you burned.
- 13:34Philip Pape: If your weight stays the same, then what you burned is what you ate.
- 13:39Philip Pape: So it's effectively like a lie detector for all the claims about food logs and metabolism.
- 13:45Philip Pape: Um, in fact, it's it's it's really detected one of the biggest lies of all in that we think our metabolism declines with age when it does not.
- 13:52Philip Pape: In the open study, O-P-E-N, all caps, if you want to look it up, 484 adults in Maryland did exactly that.
- 13:59Philip Pape: When they reported what they ate over 24 hours, men came in 11% under what they ate, and women came in 17% under what they ate.
- 14:08Philip Pape: In other words, they reported 11 and 17% less than they actually ate.
- 14:11Philip Pape: So they ate more than they thought they ate.
- 14:14Philip Pape: About one in five people were clear underreporters, while barely one in a hundred over-reported.
- 14:20Philip Pape: So the error almost exclusively runs in one direction.
- 14:24Philip Pape: We estimate less, sometimes far less, than what we actually eat.
- 14:30Philip Pape: Now there's the study I bring up a lot by Lichtman in 1992 in the New England Journal of Medicine, people with obesity who call themselves diet resistant or weight loss resistant, saying things like, I eat almost nothing and I can't lose weight.
- 14:43Philip Pape: They reported eating about a thousand calories a day, but the doubly labeled water said they were eating 2100 calories a day.
- 14:51Philip Pape: So they underreported by 47%.
- 14:54Philip Pape: Now, this is people thinking they're eating a thousand calories, which if I eat a thousand calories, I'm gonna be hangry all the time.
- 14:59Philip Pape: I'm gonna be, I'm gonna feel like I'm starving.
- 15:01Philip Pape: And I'm guessing these are, you know, people with obesity eating a thousand calories, it might feel even worse.
- 15:06Philip Pape: So they underreported half by half, which is insane.
- 15:10Philip Pape: Now, their metabolism was normal, nothing was broken.
- 15:12Philip Pape: They weren't, I don't think they were lying, but their logs were missing some of their food.
- 15:17Philip Pape: Uh, you know, it's gotta be that.
- 15:18Philip Pape: The logs are missing half the food they were actually eating because of what they were reporting.
- 15:23Philip Pape: Either, you know, items of food, quantities of food, or the way it was logged missed on the calories of food, right?
- 15:30Philip Pape: It's one of those.
- 15:31Philip Pape: Now, those are what we call recall studies.
- 15:34Philip Pape: If you weigh your food and log it as you go, you're probably doing a lot better than a 24-hour recall study.
- 15:40Philip Pape: Okay, they brought these people back to recall from memory what they ate.
- 15:43Philip Pape: Okay, but it's important to understand that because it means we are prone to a certain pattern.
- 15:49Philip Pape: And this pattern shows up everywhere when it comes to humans and reporting.
- 15:53Philip Pape: A recent analysis of national survey data found under-reporting was more common in people on low calorie diets, and that reported intake lined up worst for people on low carb diets.
- 16:04Philip Pape: So, in other words, the people trying hardest to eat less tend to undercount the most.
- 16:09Philip Pape: And I think that's just human.
- 16:11Philip Pape: I think that's just human.
- 16:12Philip Pape: You you've got the licks and bites, right?
- 16:14Philip Pape: The the bite, biting or eating your kids' food, finger foods, a handful of almonds, oil in the pan that we talked about early, cream in your second coffee.
- 16:22Philip Pape: Maybe you always log it as one coffee, but you're really drinking two or a third from the pot.
- 16:27Philip Pape: You know, all of that stuff.
- 16:28Philip Pape: And there's a lot of it where it doesn't feel like you're eating something, maybe it doesn't get logged.
- 16:31Philip Pape: Or you eat some vegetables and they happen to have some oil and you don't log it, et cetera, et cetera.
- 16:36Philip Pape: Now, what about when you're doing this in an app?
- 16:39Philip Pape: People worry that the food database in a logging app is garbage because anyone can add an entry.
- 16:45Philip Pape: Like MyFitnessPal is prone to that.
- 16:48Philip Pape: But when researchers have entered the same records in MyFitnessPal and compare them to research grade databases, actually it's not too bad.
- 16:54Philip Pape: Total calories came out within a few percent.
- 16:56Philip Pape: Obviously, you have to pick the right foods.
- 16:58Philip Pape: And an app like MyFitnessPal, I'm not a huge fan of just because they have so many extra things that you can pick the wrong things of, but they're getting better at that.
- 17:05Philip Pape: Macrofactor obviously has a validated food database as well.
- 17:09Philip Pape: So they're all kind of catching up.
- 17:10Philip Pape: And I don't think that's really the main problem for calories.
- 17:13Philip Pape: I don't think the database is the main problem.
- 17:15Philip Pape: Now, protein's a different story.
- 17:16Philip Pape: I'm gonna get to that.
- 17:18Philip Pape: But let's back up and say, okay, we've got three sources of error.
- 17:21Philip Pape: We've got labels from food that are off by a little bit, not as much as we like to claim on average, on average.
- 17:29Philip Pape: So some are gonna be high, some are gonna be low.
- 17:30Philip Pape: That's always been my argument for many years is that I don't even care about that because some are high, some are low.
- 17:34Philip Pape: It averages out.
- 17:35Philip Pape: We have app databases, which are not as far off as we might think.
- 17:40Philip Pape: And we have your own logging that can be off by something like 10 to 20% or more, sometimes way more.
- 17:46Philip Pape: And so, guess what?
- 17:47Philip Pape: The the labels and the app database is not where the thing to focus is, which is great because we can't control those, can we?
- 17:54Philip Pape: That's actually a good thing.
- 17:55Philip Pape: You see how I like to reframe.
- 17:57Philip Pape: That's a good thing.
- 17:58Philip Pape: So if you've been stressed about those things or thinking that it's affecting your logging, don't worry about it.
- 18:03Philip Pape: What you need to worry about is that spoonful of peanut butter.
- 18:06Philip Pape: Which, depending on how you log it, if you logged it as a tablespoon instead of grams and it's twice as many grams as you thought, boom.
- 18:13Philip Pape: That is that times 20 throughout your week could be the issue.
- 18:17Philip Pape: Now, for some foods, the label error goes the other way, which is kind of cool.
- 18:20Philip Pape: It's a nice little bonus.
- 18:21Philip Pape: USDA researchers ran a controlled feeding study with 18 adults who ate almonds and they measured how much energy the body absorbed.
- 18:29Philip Pape: A one-ounce serving of whole almonds gave people an intake of 129 calories, while the label says around 160 calories, and the standard calculation says close to 170 calories.
- 18:41Philip Pape: Chopped and roasted almonds gave a bit more calories, and nut butter is closest to the label because it's already fully processed and you're absorbing most of it.
- 18:51Philip Pape: So interestingly, for more, the more whole food and the least processed it is, this is not going to be a surprise, but it's helpful to remember for something like whole nuts, the label might actually overstate what you end up absorbing.
- 19:04Philip Pape: And we see that when you compare whole foods to processed foods, where, huh, maybe I'm simply absorbing less of the calories in the whole foods, and that makes a big difference too.
- 19:13Philip Pape: The more and more whole foods I eat, even though I'm tracking the same way, somehow I'm actually, not somehow, I'm actually taking in fewer calories than the next guy or gal who's tracking maybe eating the exact same calories on the label, but it's actually absorbing more than you are.
- 19:27Philip Pape: So this is where I want the picture in your head to change.
- 19:30Philip Pape: If this isn't blowing your mind already and making you rethink this, every number in your food log is an estimate.
- 19:36Philip Pape: Of course.
- 19:36Philip Pape: Some are high, some are low.
- 19:39Philip Pape: The biggest error is any food that you just are not logging at all, okay?
- 19:43Philip Pape: By definition, that makes sense, right?
- 19:45Philip Pape: That sounds hopeless until you realize what matters is not how precise they are, just how consistent they are, which is a much easier problem to solve.
- 19:55Philip Pape: It's actually an engineering problem.
- 19:57Philip Pape: It's very easy to solve.
- 19:58Philip Pape: So I'm really excited about that.
- 20:00Philip Pape: And I have been for the last few years as I've coached clients through this process and they realize all I have to do is be consistent.
- 20:05Philip Pape: Sometimes I don't even have to log things.
- 20:07Philip Pape: Like I take fish oil every day.
- 20:09Philip Pape: I don't log it.
- 20:10Philip Pape: Why?
- 20:10Philip Pape: Because I consistently take it every day.
- 20:12Philip Pape: It's the same calories.
- 20:13Philip Pape: Mathematically, it's not going to affect me one iota because what matters is the change over time, your metabolism versus your intake and how it changes over time.
- 20:22Philip Pape: I don't truly, truly care the precise amount I'm eating.
- 20:26Philip Pape: I just care how much I'm eating relative to last week and this week and my deficit, okay?
- 20:32Philip Pape: Or my metabolism.
- 20:34Philip Pape: Now, at the very end of this episode, I'm gonna share that one change to when you log.
- 20:39Philip Pape: But before we get there, I need to explain an engineering idea called calibration.
- 20:44Philip Pape: Very simple.
- 20:45Philip Pape: You guys know what I'm talking about.
- 20:46Philip Pape: Let's say your bathroom scale reads three pounds heavy every single time.
- 20:50Philip Pape: Does that mean it's useless?
- 20:52Philip Pape: Not at all.
- 20:53Philip Pape: Because if it says that you're down two pounds over the last month, even though it reads three pounds heavy, you're down two pounds.
- 21:01Philip Pape: A consistent error, what we call bias, doesn't hide change.
- 21:06Philip Pape: It doesn't hide change over time.
- 21:08Philip Pape: What hides change over time is noise and drift.
- 21:12Philip Pape: That is readings that bounce around or that slowly creep over time.
- 21:17Philip Pape: Like if that three pounds heavy on the scale became four pounds heavy, became five pounds heavy, et cetera, then it would be less useful, right?
- 21:23Philip Pape: And then noise also hides change, things going up and down a lot.
- 21:28Philip Pape: Your food log works the same way.
- 21:29Philip Pape: Let's say you consistently log 300 calories less than you eat because you forget the oil and you eyeball the peanut butter, but you're pretty much eating that regularly.
- 21:37Philip Pape: Well, if you log 1800 and your weight holds steady for a few weeks, then 1800 logged calories is your maintenance based on what you logged.
- 21:48Philip Pape: It doesn't matter that your real maintenance might be 2100 because you're simply forgetting to log 300 calories every day.
- 21:55Philip Pape: It will effectively appear like 1800.
- 21:58Philip Pape: Now, if you want to lose fat, you You're gonna drop the logged number from there, meaning you need to go in a deficit relative to that number, what your perceived or effective metabolism is, not what your true in reality metabolism is that you may not even know because of those 300 calories you're not logging.
- 22:12Philip Pape: I hope that makes sense.
- 22:13Philip Pape: In other words, the the 300 calorie error comes along for the ride and gets canceled out.
- 22:18Philip Pape: Your weight trend is what's telling you what's happening, if it's working.
- 22:22Philip Pape: So this is just energy balance math.
- 22:25Philip Pape: All right.
- 22:26Philip Pape: The great Kevin Hall, the NIH researcher on energy balance, he published a rule of thumb in The Lancet in 2011, where every 10 calories a day you change your intake for good, eventually moves your body weight by about a pound.
- 22:42Philip Pape: So small, consistent changes do add up.
- 22:45Philip Pape: They're just slow.
- 22:46Philip Pape: And your trend weight tells you which direction you're heading before the actual math works out.
- 22:51Philip Pape: And that's because of all the noise.
- 22:52Philip Pape: You see how this comes full circle?
- 22:54Philip Pape: In other words, that's why we care about the trend and we don't care about the sh the noise and why we need time and patience.
- 23:00Philip Pape: So here's how to track macros so that the error stops mattering.
- 23:05Philip Pape: I'm gonna keep it to three things, okay?
- 23:08Philip Pape: Number one, log the same way every day.
- 23:11Philip Pape: Ah, okay.
- 23:11Philip Pape: Now now you see why it's important to log every day, but also log the same way.
- 23:14Philip Pape: Use the same app, use the same entries for the staple foods that you always eat.
- 23:18Philip Pape: You could just copy, paste, copy, paste, copy, paste.
- 23:20Philip Pape: Your oatmeal is always the same entry and not like looking it up manually each time and picking a slightly different oatmeal.
- 23:27Philip Pape: Okay, even if you're not sure what cut of meat to pick, whatever you picked, if you eat that thing every time you eat it, you pick that thing.
- 23:33Philip Pape: That keeps your error consistent instead of random.
- 23:37Philip Pape: Okay?
- 23:37Philip Pape: Very important.
- 23:38Philip Pape: Log the same way every day.
- 23:40Philip Pape: Number two, weigh yourself often and use the trend.
- 23:44Philip Pape: Daily weigh, daily weights.
- 23:46Philip Pape: So if you weigh yourself every day, it's gonna bounce around a lot.
- 23:49Philip Pape: This is the noise we talked about, the variance because of water, salt, carbs, inflammation.
- 23:53Philip Pape: If you're a woman who's menstruating, this is your cycle.
- 23:56Philip Pape: Okay.
- 23:56Philip Pape: The if, but if you measure it every day, despite that, okay, you measure it every day, you'll have a smooth uh trend over time.
- 24:05Philip Pape: Every, you know, I'll say three weeks is a good amount of time to take the average.
- 24:09Philip Pape: Some people will use a weekly, but I think that's too quick to it.
- 24:12Philip Pape: There's still too much noise after one week.
- 24:14Philip Pape: You need to look at two to three weeks, ideally, three weeks to compare over time.
- 24:20Philip Pape: And that's gonna tell you are you really gaining or losing body fat or holding maintenance from which to adjust your target calories?
- 24:27Philip Pape: It's what an app like Macrofactor uses, in fact, to give you those target calories.
- 24:32Philip Pape: And if you don't know what Macrofactor is, go check it out, download the app, use my code WITSNWAITS, all one word, and you'll get a free two-week trial.
- 24:39Philip Pape: I had to throw that in, guys, because you know how much I love the app.
- 24:42Philip Pape: Number three, put your precision where the biggest payoff is for being precise.
- 24:50Philip Pape: So, what do I mean by that?
- 24:51Philip Pape: Well, if you're using a food log, which you should or a food scale at home, which you should when you're at home, why not?
- 24:57Philip Pape: Takes a few seconds, then you're gonna weigh to the gram, and it's totally worth it for things that have a lot of calories.
- 25:03Philip Pape: So, calorie-dense foods, oils, butter, nut butters, nut, cheese, dressing seeds, as well as slightly less dense foods that have a lot of calories, like meat, you know, lean meats and various proteins and such.
- 25:15Philip Pape: A tablespoon of oil is so calorie dense.
- 25:18Philip Pape: It's 120 calories.
- 25:20Philip Pape: So it's worth weighing that because I'll tell you, just like three or four, three going from three grams to five grams, it's like, whoa, there's an extra, you know, 20 calories or whatever.
- 25:29Philip Pape: It's it's insane.
- 25:30Philip Pape: And again, so doing it for those and doing it for your main proteins, I think, are important.
- 25:34Philip Pape: For protein that's naturally in a food, remember that the FDA rule is inverted.
- 25:40Philip Pape: The product has to contain at least 80% of what the label says.
- 25:44Philip Pape: More than that is fine.
- 25:46Philip Pape: So a compliant label can actually overstate protein by up to 20% on the 12-package average.
- 25:54Philip Pape: In the two app database studies, I think I mentioned those, the app's red protein are about 80% or sorry, about 8% low compared with the research databases.
- 26:06Philip Pape: Right.
- 26:06Philip Pape: And the errors point in different directions.
- 26:08Philip Pape: So on any given day, you can't necessarily count on them canceling out.
- 26:13Philip Pape: So if you're aiming for around, let's say, the minimum 0.7 grams per pound, a lot of you aim for more than that, being off by 10 to 15% on your three or four biggest protein foods can definitely add up to real grams.
- 26:26Philip Pape: So for those foods, use the actual label or verified entry and weigh them.
- 26:30Philip Pape: That's all, that's all.
- 26:31Philip Pape: Just weigh them.
- 26:32Philip Pape: I would just weigh everything.
- 26:34Philip Pape: My general rule is if you're gonna have something complicated with a lot of ingredients, pick a common food item that represents the whole thing, or use the AI feature, take a picture and throw in what the ingredients are, and then just go by the grams.
- 26:46Philip Pape: It's gonna be pretty close.
- 26:48Philip Pape: Now, what about protein powder?
- 26:50Philip Pape: The most recent independent US testing I found from Consumer Lab this April 2026 found that every powder they tested had its listed protein, so the protein it said it had, and the products that failed the testing were flagged for things like cholesterol and sodium.
- 27:07Philip Pape: So if a protein blend lists free amino acids, glycine, taurine, or creatine, that would be your cue to look closer.
- 27:15Philip Pape: I mean, you basically want a well-respected brand of a protein powder that just contains all the amino acids.
- 27:22Philip Pape: Popular brands would be like Optimum Nutrition, for example, or Legion, or the one I talk about all the time that I use, which is True Nutrition, which True Nutrition is awesome because you can create your own, you know, and you know what's in there.
- 27:33Philip Pape: Uh, restaurant meals, this is the tricky one.
- 27:36Philip Pape: Okay, this is where the label is probably the least relied.
- 27:38Philip Pape: If the if there is a label at all, right?
- 27:40Philip Pape: A lot of restaurants, just mom and pop restaurants, aren't going to have any of this stuff listed and depends on where you live, but don't sweat the precision.
- 27:48Philip Pape: I want you to log your best guess and be conservative, meaning log more calories than you think rather than less.
- 27:55Philip Pape: I always put something like 25% more, okay?
- 27:58Philip Pape: Maybe 50%, if you know they go really heavy on oils and butter and things like that.
- 28:02Philip Pape: And you can tell by looking, tasting, things like that, but you can't always see all the fat.
- 28:07Philip Pape: Now, I mentioned earlier, you know, if your metabolism is a little bit on the lower end or if you're in a deficit, something like that, a logging error will have a bigger impact in absolute terms if your calories are tighter, right?
- 28:18Philip Pape: So I think chasing grams on everything is maybe the wrong place to place your attention.
- 28:24Philip Pape: But calibrating against your trend, like we talked about earlier, and then making sure the main calorie-containing stuff is all weighed and accounted for, and then you're conservative with restaurants, those will go a long way.
- 28:35Philip Pape: And then there's another little thing about fiber and net carbs and all that.
- 28:39Philip Pape: I say don't worry about any of that, just log what it says.
- 28:42Philip Pape: The more fiber you have, the fewer calories per gram you're gonna have, and it's just gonna benefit you, but you're still gonna log what the label says.
- 28:49Philip Pape: And the labels will already account for that in the calories.
- 28:51Philip Pape: Meaning if you have a gram of fiber, it won't count as a full four calories like it would for other carbs.
- 28:58Philip Pape: It probably counts as like anywhere from zero to like two and a half, but that's already reflected in the label.
- 29:04Philip Pape: So don't try to do the math and say, oh, the math doesn't work out.
- 29:06Philip Pape: That's why.
- 29:07Philip Pape: The more fiber it has, the more it's not gonna work out.
- 29:09Philip Pape: It's just gonna have fewer calories, which is not a bad thing if you're trying to limit calories.
- 29:13Philip Pape: So to recap, the 20% label rule, don't worry about it.
- 29:16Philip Pape: It cancels out.
- 29:17Philip Pape: Consistency handles error the best.
- 29:21Philip Pape: Okay.
- 29:21Philip Pape: And you need to be precise on certain types of food that are more calorie dense.
- 29:24Philip Pape: All right, before we wrap up, I promised you that one change to when you log your food that might give you more success.
- 29:32Philip Pape: Before I do, if you're wondering what I use to do all this calibration, I briefly mentioned it.
- 29:37Philip Pape: The app is called MacroFactor.
- 29:39Philip Pape: It is not my app, it's from Stronger by Science, but I use it.
- 29:42Philip Pape: So does pretty much everybody in our coaching programs.
- 29:45Philip Pape: I'm an affiliate.
- 29:46Philip Pape: So if you want to support the uh podcast, I get a small, very small cut if you sign up using my code WITS and weights, all one word.
- 29:54Philip Pape: Download MacroFactor from your favorite app store.
- 29:56Philip Pape: What I like about the app is it takes your logged calorie intake and your trend weight.
- 30:01Philip Pape: This is why it helps to do it every day.
- 30:03Philip Pape: And it works backward to give you an expenditure number, a metabolism number that is updating in real time.
- 30:10Philip Pape: And then every week you check in, quote unquote, you check in with the app and it gives you an updated target for your calories and macros based on your goal.
- 30:18Philip Pape: So if you're trying to lose weight at a certain rate, you're trying to maintain, you're trying to gain weight at a certain rate.
- 30:24Philip Pape: Okay.
- 30:24Philip Pape: And it has a good database, it's super fast, all of that.
- 30:27Philip Pape: So go to MacroFactor in your app store, use the code WITNWAITS all one word.
- 30:32Philip Pape: I will throw a link in the show notes if you want to learn more about it.
- 30:35Philip Pape: So if you track your food, when you log might matter more than how carefully you log.
- 30:41Philip Pape: What do I mean?
- 30:42Philip Pape: In a 2026 study of 449 adults in a 16-week weight loss program, researchers looked at when people log during the day.
- 30:50Philip Pape: About 89% of the people who logged two or more times a day reached clinically meaningful weight loss, compared with only 56% of people who caught up on their logging after the fact.
- 31:02Philip Pape: Logging right after you eat takes the same time as logging at night, but it's at night.
- 31:07Philip Pape: You're reconstructing your day from memory, you're doing the recall thing.
- 31:11Philip Pape: All the bites and the splashes and the licks go missing.
- 31:14Philip Pape: Food goes missing, food just disappears from your memory.
- 31:17Philip Pape: Even the once-a-day loggers hit 71%.
- 31:20Philip Pape: So you don't have to be perfect.
- 31:22Philip Pape: Although it's much easier to just build a habit of when I eat, I log.
- 31:25Philip Pape: When I eat, I log.
- 31:26Philip Pape: When I eat, I log.
- 31:27Philip Pape: Very low stress, very quick.
- 31:28Philip Pape: You get used to it, copy paste, becomes a very simple habit to ingrain in your daily routine.
- 31:34Philip Pape: All right, until next time, keep using your wits, lifting those weights.
- 31:37Philip Pape: And remember that your food log doesn't have to be perfectly accurate to work for you.
- 31:41Philip Pape: It has to be consistent, and your weight trend will tell you the rest.
- 31:44Philip Pape: I'm Philip Pape, and I'll talk to you next time here on the Wits& Weights podcast.