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- 0:06Welcome to the unto take a deep breath.
- 0:11Take the higher roles.
- 0:13It's what they always say.
- 0:14Let's see if they know the way.
- 0:16They won't take it from me.
- 0:20But don't ever done self-whits wrapping just a
- 0:22dream.
- 0:24You made your own so kid can scream.
- 0:29With a never ending force.
- 0:31You never have the chance.
- 0:33So watch with four friend.
- 0:37Cause this is whole.
- 0:44It's time at this one.
- 0:56Welcome to the Nurses Report on America Out
- 0:58Loud.
- 1:00I'm your host, Ashley Capito, registered nurse, functional
- 1:03medicine practitioner, mom, wife, and somebody who just,
- 1:05like many of you is trying to figure
- 1:08out how to build a healthier, more intentional
- 1:11life in a world that honestly feels increasingly
- 1:14difficult to navigate.
- 1:18Today we're going to be talking about two
- 1:20things that are hitting families hard right now.
- 1:23Feeding your family on a budget and homeschooling.
- 1:26And before anybody tunes out and thinks that
- 1:29this is going to be some unrealistic social
- 1:32media version of homesteading where everybody's milling wheat
- 1:35berries at sunrise, raising goats and matching linen
- 1:37outfits.
- 1:40That's not what this is.
- 1:42This is real life.
- 1:44This is trying to buy groceries without feeling
- 1:46physically ill when you look at the total.
- 1:49This is standing in the produce section wondering
- 1:52how healthy food somehow became a luxury item.
- 1:55This is trying to balance work, children, exhaustion,
- 1:58rising cost, and still wanting better for your
- 2:01family.
- 2:04Because I think a lot of people feel
- 2:06the shift that's happening right now.
- 2:08Families are tired.
- 2:10Parents are questioning everything.
- 2:13They're questioning the food system.
- 2:15They're questioning health care.
- 2:17They're questioning education.
- 2:19They're questioning why everybody feels anxious, burned out,
- 2:22disconnected, overstimulated, over medicated, and chronically exhausted all
- 2:26the time.
- 2:29And parents are starting to realize that the
- 2:32lifestyle we were sold isn't actually working well.
- 2:36We were told convenience would make life easier,
- 2:38but somehow we became more disconnected from our
- 2:41food, more disconnected from our kids, more disconnected
- 2:43from our communities, and honestly more stressed than
- 2:46ever.
- 2:49And look, this isn't about perfection.
- 2:51I'm not here pretending my kids never eat
- 2:54chicken nuggets, or that every meal in my
- 2:56house is organic and beautifully prepared from scratch.
- 2:59Sometimes dinner is simple, sometimes life is messy,
- 3:02sometimes you're just trying to survive the week.
- 3:06But I do think families are hungry for
- 3:08something deeper right now.
- 3:10People want to slow down.
- 3:12They want healthier homes, they want to know
- 3:14where their food comes from.
- 3:17They want their kids outside more and on
- 3:19screens less.
- 3:21They want family dinners again.
- 3:23They want peace again.
- 3:24And for some families, that's leading them towards
- 3:27gardening, cooking from home, simpler living, and even
- 3:29reconsidering whether traditional schooling is the right fit
- 3:32for their children.
- 3:35So today we're gonna have a real conversation
- 3:36about all of it.
- 3:38How do you feed a family healthier foods
- 3:40without going broke?
- 3:42What actually works when you're trying to stretch
- 3:43groceries?
- 3:45What are practical ways to simplify life?
- 3:48Why are more parents looking into homeschooling?
- 3:51And how do we stop chasing perfection and
- 3:53start building sustainable, healthier lives that actually feel
- 3:56good again?
- 3:58Because I truly believe a lot of families
- 4:00are waking up right now.
- 4:02And maybe the shift isn't happening that's happening
- 4:04isn't a bad thing.
- 4:06Maybe it's families reclaiming what we were never
- 4:09meant to outsource completely in the first place.
- 4:13So today I have Amy Whitlock again with
- 4:14us.
- 4:16Welcome to the show, Amy.
- 4:18I'm glad you're here.
- 4:20It's a topic near and dear to my
- 4:22heart.
- 4:23Yes, I am really excited about this topic.
- 4:26And I know you know, you and I
- 4:29talked about um, we kind of need a
- 4:32mental break from all things, medical health care
- 4:35insurance, and all of that.
- 4:38So this was like a fun topic that
- 4:40we can talk about, but I think it's
- 4:41something that's really gonna relate um to most
- 4:43families out there right now, whether you have
- 4:45kids or not.
- 4:47I mean, this is just something on everybody's
- 4:48mind.
- 4:50I agree, I agree.
- 4:52Um, and I think as parents, it's important
- 4:55to realize that we can control the narrative.
- 4:58Like we control the narrative, what's in the
- 5:00home, what comes in the home.
- 5:02We can control the narrative who's seeking life
- 5:05or negativity into our children.
- 5:08Um, and so I love this topic.
- 5:10And I think not only should we be
- 5:12eating healthy, but I think homeschooling's a way
- 5:14to support the mind and make the mind
- 5:16healthy.
- 5:19And like I said, we control the narrative.
- 5:22Yeah.
- 5:22And I um, so this is my first
- 5:24year.
- 5:25You have experience.
- 5:26You've homeschooled your boys.
- 5:29Um, this is my first year homeschooling.
- 5:33And I tell you what, like I've listened
- 5:35to homeschool podcast out there, and I'm really
- 5:37glad that we're talking about it because a
- 5:39lot of them are practical and they understand
- 5:42the ups and the downs, and they do
- 5:44talk about it.
- 5:46But they also seem so perfect in in
- 5:48what they're doing.
- 5:51And I'm I feel so unperfect with um
- 5:53homeschooling.
- 5:56So maybe we can talk about that a
- 5:58little bit first, homeschooling, and then we'll we'll
- 6:00jump into food.
- 6:02But um, because it kind of goes hand
- 6:04in hand too, you know, because you got
- 6:06to feed your children now, they're home for
- 6:09three meals a day and unlimited snacking.
- 6:11But um we had a conversation the other
- 6:14day about how you feel like maybe you're
- 6:17failing your children, you're not doing the right
- 6:19things, but ultimately I think you're probably doing
- 6:22more than you think.
- 6:26Um, it doesn't have to be so structured
- 6:27because that's that's what you're getting away from
- 6:29anyway.
- 6:31Right.
- 6:32Yeah, we have homeschooled for 21 years.
- 6:36So we have four boys, and uh our
- 6:39last one.
- 6:43Um, and I say 21 years, but you
- 6:45know, our our last one's he's been sick,
- 6:47and so we're just filling in the gap
- 6:49with him.
- 6:51He's basically graduated, but um, you know, we
- 6:54still have some gaps that we want to
- 6:56address that the illness took from him.
- 6:59Right.
- 7:00But the thing about homeschooling is you don't
- 7:00But the thing about homeschooling is you don't
- 7:03see how it unfolds until it unfolds.
- 7:03see how it unfolds until it unfolds.
- 7:05And so I'm on the other end of
- 7:05And so I'm on the other end of
- 7:07it, and you're just getting started.
- 7:07it and you're just getting started.
- 7:09And I can tell you, yeah, we have
- 7:09And I can tell you, yeah, we have
- 7:11we have to be efficient with our timing,
- 7:11we have to be efficient with our timing
- 7:13and we do need to be schedule-oriented.
- 7:13and we do need to be schedule oriented.
- 7:16But life happens.
- 7:16But laugh happens when you homeschool, you're not
- 7:18When you homeschool, you're not just the the
- 7:19just the the mom anymore.
- 7:19mom anymore.
- 7:21You're the you're the teacher, you're the school
- 7:21You're the you're the teacher, you're the school
- 7:23nurse, you're the lunchroom lady, you're the person
- 7:24nurse, you're the lunch room lady, you're the
- 7:26in charge of planning every activity, the school
- 7:26person in charge of planning every activity.
- 7:28play.
- 7:31Because let's face it, my kids, they lived
- 7:33in a school play.
- 7:36I mean, they wanted to school in their
- 7:38pajamas, or if they wanted school in their
- 7:40Superman costume, I didn't care because they were
- 7:42still learning.
- 7:44And you know, I think they're when they
- 7:46get older, like I mean, I think that
- 7:48structure is important.
- 7:50Wake up, get your bed made, be it
- 7:52breakfast on time, it's time for devotions, you
- 7:55know, be it your seat on time.
- 7:58Those things, you know, those things are called
- 7:59more than they are taught.
- 8:02But when they're younger, you know, it's about
- 8:04that connection and it's about growing family and
- 8:07you're learning and growing each other.
- 8:11And I think those early years, that's just
- 8:13as important of a lesson as it is
- 8:15to pull out, you know, the the core
- 8:17academics.
- 8:20Yeah, and I, you know, the kids learn
- 8:23by playing early on.
- 8:25And I think we forget that sometimes.
- 8:28Um, my kids always surprise me because I
- 8:31will go to teach them something and they
- 8:33already know it.
- 8:36And then I think to myself, I'm like,
- 8:37where did you learn this?
- 8:39You know, but they learn through play, and
- 8:41then things start to make sense when you
- 8:44go when you do turn to the book.
- 8:47Um, and I remember I was so excited.
- 8:50Well, I put weeks of probably more than
- 8:52weeks of um thought and effort into which
- 8:55program I was gonna go with, what books
- 8:58I was gonna get.
- 9:01I actually merged two different um curriculums and
- 9:03I bought books from each, and then they
- 9:06came and I was so excited.
- 9:08I had them all laid out.
- 9:10I had a whiteboard with our schedule planned,
- 9:12and this is just life was gonna be
- 9:14great.
- 9:17And day one was good.
- 9:19The kids were excited, day two was okay,
- 9:21and then we got to day three, and
- 9:23everything went wrong.
- 9:27We're crying, they didn't want to, you know,
- 9:29I'm hungry, I'm tired, I don't want to
- 9:31do this right now.
- 9:33Can we just do it later?
- 9:34And I'm like, no, the schedule, we have
- 9:36to do the schedule, you know.
- 9:38And I was I had to let that
- 9:41go a lot because I was doing what
- 9:44I took my kids away from, right?
- 9:47I didn't boys especially cannot sit still and
- 9:50focus for very long and they get diagnosed
- 9:53with ADHD all the time.
- 9:57But I think it's just it's it's boys.
- 9:59Boys are like that.
- 10:00They need movement, they need interaction, stimulation.
- 10:04They can't just sit and look at a
- 10:05book.
- 10:06So I really had to shift gears, and
- 10:08it took a lot for me to realize
- 10:09that.
- 10:12Kind of let it go.
- 10:13Um, because I had everything planned out so
- 10:15perfectly.
- 10:17And now we I use the book as
- 10:20guidance, but for instance, like our our science
- 10:23book, I'll see maybe what a lesson's about,
- 10:25and then we go outside and I don't
- 10:28even read from the book.
- 10:31We just explore, we find rocks, we talk
- 10:33about the layers of the earth or whatever
- 10:35it might be, and we never do the
- 10:37book work, and that's really worked out better
- 10:39for me.
- 10:41Um my son's friend that they he previously
- 10:44went to school with.
- 10:46I see pictures of her online, and she
- 10:49sits at the table and she does her
- 10:52book work and she colors and does art
- 10:55projects and that works for her.
- 10:57So I think we have to look at
- 11:00finding how your child learns and cater to
- 11:02that as well.
- 11:04Right.
- 11:05Yeah, and what you're describing is known in
- 11:08the homeschool world as classical approach to education.
- 11:11So uh yeah, Charlotte Mason, she pioneered this
- 11:14salt, and she has um, and I say
- 11:18pioneered, like she's this was this was years
- 11:21ago when like I'm I mean like decades
- 11:24ago, not years, decades ago.
- 11:28Um, so she pioneered this thought, um, just
- 11:29like you're doing.
- 11:31She would study the curriculum, but actually take
- 11:34her classroom outside.
- 11:36And it's our job as the parents, as
- 11:38the homeschool mom, you know, to look at
- 11:40those lesson plans.
- 11:43You know, we can't just flippantly, you know,
- 11:45just or I don't think we can flippantly
- 11:47just go through without having a template.
- 11:50I mean, that template is our God.
- 11:52And I want to make sure that we're
- 11:54not creating gaps, but um, you know, it
- 11:56doesn't take long just to to look at
- 11:58the the teacher's edition and and and make
- 12:00those lessons out the door, take them to
- 12:02the library.
- 12:04I mean, we I like to say we
- 12:06lifed school, we didn't homeschool.
- 12:09We we lifted school.
- 12:11Um we had two of our four boys
- 12:14were were in speech therapy and um they
- 12:16were, you know, back in those days, 20
- 12:19years ago, they were they were very, very
- 12:22they were very much on the spectrum.
- 12:25And so, you know, I had to accommodate
- 12:26for everyone and we would we would take
- 12:28school on the road.
- 12:30We would um we would do school on
- 12:31our excursion.
- 12:33It's funny that a couple of years ago
- 12:35we had to to get a different vehicle,
- 12:37and I cried because the excursion held so
- 12:40many memories.
- 12:42Like we kept that thing until it fell
- 12:44apart, but I raised our kids in that
- 12:45thing.
- 12:47Like we had so many homeschool lessons, it
- 12:49had this little cool built-in clipboard, you know,
- 12:52behind the front um passenger and driver's seat,
- 12:54and we clip paperwork in there and um
- 12:56you know, we didn't get to take all
- 12:59of our books on the road, but you
- 13:01know, we had a system, a method that
- 13:03worked for our family, and it worked.
- 13:06And you know, my boys thankfully they're they're
- 13:08successful, they're grown men and um they're they're
- 13:11running their own businesses.
- 13:13And our oldest son recently told me, he
- 13:16said, had you not have homeschooled me the
- 13:18way we did, probably would be doing as
- 13:21well as the am because you know, not
- 13:23only were we focusing on curriculum, but he
- 13:26was also learning how to manage life, a
- 13:28very mantic, hectic life.
- 13:31Yeah, he was watching from afar, and I
- 13:33really never understood that until he was already
- 13:35older and handling.
- 13:38I mean, it takes a lot out of
- 13:39you to run your own business as we
- 13:40both know.
- 13:41Yes.
- 13:42But it's you know, it's it's those it's
- 13:44those life lessons that he that he caught
- 13:45along the way.
- 13:47And um, I don't know if you want
- 13:51to talk about different curriculums, but now our
- 13:55core curriculum was a Becca, and um I
- 13:58really love their grammar program, their language, their
- 14:00Their grammar program, their language, their spelling, like
- 14:02spelling, like everything is to me, they have
- 14:04everything is to me, they have this Charlotte
- 14:05this Charlotte Mason classical approach built into um
- 14:08Mason classical approach built into their phonics program.
- 14:09their phonics program.
- 14:13So predominantly stuck with that with all of
- 14:13So predominantly stuck with that with all of
- 14:15the boys.
- 14:15the boys.
- 14:16We deviated some on math.
- 14:16We deviated some on math.
- 14:19We would use different things like Saxon math,
- 14:19We would use different things like Saxon math,
- 14:22um, teaching textbooks.
- 14:22um, teaching textbooks, that was good.
- 14:24That was good.
- 14:25But with math, I think with with boys,
- 14:25But with math, I think with with boys,
- 14:27like I don't think there was this hard
- 14:28like I don't think there was this hard
- 14:28set.
- 14:30set fast rule that it has to be
- 14:32this curriculum because they learn so differently than
- 14:35girls, and they need to be hands-on and
- 14:37they need to be active, and it's just
- 14:39how God made a boy.
- 14:42And so yeah.
- 14:45Yeah, and even um between my two boys,
- 14:49you know, they learn so differently and they
- 14:52enjoy things, you know, for my oldest math
- 14:55really kind of stresses him out.
- 14:58He can get really emotional about it.
- 15:01Um, he's very hard on himself if he
- 15:04gets something wrong or doesn't know something, and
- 15:07we're not, but he's very hard on himself.
- 15:10I'm not sure where that comes from, but
- 15:12we're working on that.
- 15:14And then my younger, he just with math,
- 15:16he catches on right away.
- 15:19And it's it blows my mind.
- 15:21I'm like, I I don't understand how you
- 15:23know how to do this.
- 15:24He came up to me the other day
- 15:26and he was like, Mom, did you know
- 15:28five plus two is seven?
- 15:29Like, well, yes, I did.
- 15:31And that's really good, you know.
- 15:33But uh, and he's he's five, you know,
- 15:35and um my older if if he doesn't
- 15:38do math in his head, he has to
- 15:40see it laid out.
- 15:42And I don't think he's behind or anything's
- 15:45wrong, but he it's different.
- 15:48And I we have so much time, like
- 15:50he'll cut, you know, it'll be okay.
- 15:53I have to keep telling myself that.
- 15:55And we um so since you were talking
- 15:58about curriculums, we went with a curriculum called
- 16:02master books and um the good and the
- 16:05beautiful, and so I I struggled with that
- 16:09one a little bit because and I think
- 16:12this was with any homeschool program.
- 16:16If you start going down the rabbit hole
- 16:18and looking at reviews, you can talk yourself
- 16:20out of any of these curriculums.
- 16:22Oh, yeah.
- 16:23You almost just have to look at it
- 16:24and say, you know what, let's go for
- 16:25it and try this one.
- 16:27Um, and with the good and the beautiful,
- 16:31there was a lot of talk about the
- 16:34religious aspect of it, that it was more
- 16:37Mormon based than Christian based.
- 16:40And so I struggled with that a little
- 16:42bit.
- 16:43But we went with masterbooks, which is kind
- 16:46of an offshoot of it was someone who
- 16:49worked with the good and the beautiful, and
- 16:52then she wanted it more Christian based, so
- 16:55she left and created her own.
- 16:58The problem I have with master books, it's
- 17:01very similar to the good and the beautiful,
- 17:03but it is very easy.
- 17:05So you almost have to go levels up
- 17:08and follow their recommendations when they say maybe
- 17:11take a placement test instead of skipping it
- 17:13like I did.
- 17:16You probably should because the math and a
- 17:19lot of the stuff, like it was way
- 17:21beyond where my kid was, or I mean,
- 17:23way below where my kid was.
- 17:26So we kind of struggled with that because
- 17:29he was very bored with the content.
- 17:32So um, so now like you said, I
- 17:34just kind of use the books as a
- 17:36template, a guide.
- 17:38That way you're not so all over the
- 17:40place with your curriculum.
- 17:43So, you know, like one day you're talking
- 17:46about the earth, and then the next day
- 17:49you're talking about like you know, something completely
- 17:52not related, which is fine, but when it's
- 17:55cohesive, I feel like they learn better.
- 17:58So we would focus on a certain subject
- 18:00all week until we kind of mastered it
- 18:02and then we would move on, but then
- 18:04they all kind of connect.
- 18:06So um, but I tell you what, there's
- 18:09times we're outside, and um, you know, my
- 18:11son's like, mom, can we learn about lizards
- 18:13today?
- 18:15And I'm like, sure, why not?
- 18:18You know, it's not on the lesson plan,
- 18:19but let's go.
- 18:21We um, of course, you know, when our
- 18:23oldest is 25 years old.
- 18:26So um, like when he was little and
- 18:28he wanted to learn about stuff like that,
- 18:29we would just hop in the minivan and
- 18:31go off to the library.
- 18:33We had a really cool library when they
- 18:35were little and they actually had these book
- 18:37bags, and you could check out the book
- 18:39bag and take it home.
- 18:41They had their own space, they had one
- 18:43on geology, they had one um on like
- 18:45on ocean and the sharks.
- 18:47Like he was fascinated with that one.
- 18:48Um they had a really good idea.
- 18:52Yeah, I mean, that's something that we as
- 18:54parents can even adapt and bring home.
- 18:57Um, I haven't yet to find a library
- 18:59that fascinating.
- 19:01It was it is still a coolest library
- 19:03in the world, but I think they were
- 19:05so geared towards homeschoolers because we had we
- 19:07didn't have a huge community of homeschoolers, but
- 19:09those that homeschooled, like they homeschooled, they utilized
- 19:12library.
- 19:14So I think the I think the librarian
- 19:16just called on and she was, you know,
- 19:17she was just great like that.
- 19:19But um, but you know, I mean, getting
- 19:21back to what you were speaking about earlier
- 19:23about, you know, we don't want we want
- 19:25homeschooling to be different.
- 19:28I didn't want to bring the classroom home
- 19:29necessarily.
- 19:32And some of these curriculums are designed and
- 19:34built around a classroom of 30.
- 19:37And I will say a Becca is one
- 19:39of them.
- 19:40Um, but I I chose them because mainly
- 19:43because the Lord just opened the door wide
- 19:45open.
- 19:48Um, we had a a a dear saint,
- 19:50and I'll call her a saint because she
- 19:52was such a help to me over the
- 19:55years, and she she reminded me, she's like,
- 19:57I want to tell you, and this was
- 19:59after her kids had graduated.
- 20:01She said, I want to remind you that
- 20:02you've got 12 years to fit it all
- 20:04in.
- 20:06And even during my homeschool years, I would
- 20:07call her just, you know, like, I don't
- 20:09think I'm doing it right.
- 20:11You know, I I'm I'm missing something they're
- 20:13not catching on, and she's like, You got
- 20:1512 years to fit it in.
- 20:18And um, she had saved all of her
- 20:20teachers' editions for Mebecca.
- 20:22I have some of the teachers' editions as
- 20:24far back as the 70s.
- 20:27Oh wow, they are the coolest books.
- 20:30I love them.
- 20:32And I understand, like a lot of people
- 20:34will say you need a new edition every
- 20:36year of the teacher edition.
- 20:39No, I don't, you know, it's my template.
- 20:41It's not I didn't use it as my
- 20:44instruction guide, you know.
- 20:46And if I had an issue, I would
- 20:47call her.
- 20:48I I would call like a Becca's helpline.
- 20:51There's so many things that we can do
- 20:52as homeschool moms, but we don't have to
- 20:54spend a lot of money.
- 20:56Well, I know a family that I mean,
- 20:59they spend at least probably three thousand dollars
- 21:00At least probably $3,000 per year on their
- 21:01per year on on their children, and they
- 21:02children.
- 21:03don't have a they don't have a slew
- 21:05And they don't have a they don't have
- 21:06of kids.
- 21:07a slew of kids.
- 21:09And I'm just like, you don't have to
- 21:09And just like you don't have to do
- 21:10do that.
- 21:10that.
- 21:11Like you you can reuse your teacher editions.
- 21:11Like you can reuse your teacher editions.
- 21:14I mean, I it makes sense that you
- 21:14I mean, I it makes sense that you
- 21:15buy a new workbook for the children every
- 21:16buy a new workbook for the children every
- 21:16year.
- 21:18But things like your history books, history is
- 21:18year, but things like your history books, history
- 21:20not, you know, you don't you don't go
- 21:21is not, you know, you don't you don't
- 21:23back and change history.
- 21:23go back and change history.
- 21:26If you've got an old history book, you
- 21:26If you've got an old history book, you
- 21:27better hold on to it because chances are
- 21:27better hold on to it because chances are
- 21:28something happens.
- 21:29something has been pulled out of it.
- 21:31Yeah.
- 21:32And then newer editions and we re reused
- 21:35our science books, our help books.
- 21:38Um Becca back in the 70s and 80s,
- 21:41they had these huge phonics flashcards, and now
- 21:43they're just CD Beauty.
- 21:46I have the really big ones.
- 21:48And you know, and I am so proud
- 21:50to say I get to pass on my
- 21:52curriculum.
- 21:55Like if if our older children chooses to
- 21:57homeschool their young like their children, I can
- 22:00pass it on because I know they'll be
- 22:02okay with it uh because these teachers' editions,
- 22:05yeah, they do update them, but they don't
- 22:07necessarily change.
- 22:10So I guess where I'm going with all
- 22:12of this, like you don't have to spend
- 22:13a ton of money.
- 22:15You don't have to reinvent the wheel and
- 22:17bring the the classroom home.
- 22:20You can do things around the table, you
- 22:22can reuse things.
- 22:23I think the most we spent on four
- 22:25children.
- 22:26Um the most we spent, and this was
- 22:29just one time because we were also buying
- 22:31therapy supplies for the home.
- 22:34I think one year we spent 1200, but
- 22:36just across the board, the most I ever
- 22:38spent on books in a single year was
- 22:40700.
- 22:42And it was because one of our children
- 22:44was going into high school at that time,
- 22:46and I just needed a little bit extra.
- 22:48Um, and it wasn't so much academic curriculum
- 22:50things, it was just other stuff that we
- 22:52would need.
- 22:54Um But I mean, you don't have to
- 22:56spend it, and I had four boys, like,
- 22:58and I mean that was just one year.
- 23:01And some years I didn't spend anything, um,
- 23:03other than like crayons and pencils and papers,
- 23:05the obvious things.
- 23:07So you don't have to spend a lot
- 23:08of money.
- 23:09Um I want to say I spent a
- 23:14little over 200, maybe three, maybe 300 on
- 23:19books for my seven and my four-year-old.
- 23:25And um, with the four-year-old was preschool, so
- 23:28he needed a little different um curriculum, but
- 23:32some of the things he could still share
- 23:36with his older brothers.
- 23:40So there were there were some subjects that
- 23:42were appropriate for both of them, and we
- 23:44do lessons together.
- 23:46So you have to think about that too.
- 23:47If you have multiple children, some of the
- 23:49things just because they're on different levels doesn't
- 23:51mean that they can't learn.
- 23:53Of course, if you have somebody in high
- 23:55school and somebody in kindergarten, that's gonna be
- 23:57a little bit different.
- 23:59Um, but they were able to share some
- 24:01of their books, and then I did have
- 24:03some preschool books and then some first grade
- 24:05books.
- 24:07But overall, I didn't spend a lot of
- 24:09money at all.
- 24:12And what I also realized was you don't
- 24:14have to buy everything up front.
- 24:18You know, because if you buy seven different
- 24:20subjects and um electives and all this stuff,
- 24:22there's no way you're not getting to it
- 24:24all.
- 24:27You think you might be able to, but
- 24:28you're probably not gonna be able to get
- 24:30it all.
- 24:31So you can even break up your time
- 24:33and say, okay, we're gonna focus on these
- 24:35subjects for this many weeks, and then you
- 24:38could purchase different books.
- 24:40So you don't have to make that expense
- 24:42all up front.
- 24:43And I think that can be overwhelming for
- 24:45families.
- 24:47But one thing, and I'm gonna try to
- 24:49find some of the links, and I will
- 24:51put them in our show notes.
- 24:53But there are so many, so many free
- 24:55resources out there.
- 24:58Right.
- 24:59And um, my kids use ABC Mouse, which
- 25:01that wasn't free, but I think you got
- 25:04like three free months or something like that.
- 25:07But they they used ABC Mouse from last
- 25:10year until we started homeschooling.
- 25:14It was just something to kind of they
- 25:16could play on and use in between.
- 25:18And then we um Kabada is another uh
- 25:22app that they have on their tablet that's
- 25:26free that I feel like they learn so
- 25:29much from Kabbalah that I will go to
- 25:33do their lesson and they've already done it.
- 25:37Yeah.
- 25:37On their tablets.
- 25:38Um there's another program, and um, I was
- 25:40trying to look it up on my phone
- 25:41to see if it's still available that I
- 25:42used.
- 25:44Yeah, it's still available.
- 25:45So it's called Khan Academy case A.
- 25:49Oh, you know what?
- 25:49I think that was okay.
- 25:51Y'all forget what I just said.
- 25:52I think Kabata is some, but I think
- 25:54it was Khan Academy that they have on
- 25:56their tablets.
- 25:58Yeah, that's free too.
- 25:59It is, and it's amazing.
- 26:02Um, and there's videos, like you can literally
- 26:04go in and like if you if your
- 26:06child's having issues with a division, you can
- 26:09go find the division.
- 26:11There's even placement tests and the younger grades,
- 26:13like it's really cool because they can earn
- 26:15all these prizes and you know, or it
- 26:17used to.
- 26:19They would throw bullets up on them.
- 26:21Yeah, no, they still do.
- 26:22Okay.
- 26:23It's fun.
- 26:23Yeah, my kids actually have fun with it,
- 26:25but they they learn really well with that
- 26:27program.
- 26:29And there's another one called um I IXL.
- 26:33That one's a paid subscription, but they do
- 26:35have a family subscription, and that one's pretty
- 26:37amazing.
- 26:39Um, and I find many of these resources
- 26:41typically line up with any curriculum that we
- 26:43choose.
- 26:46And you know, getting back to the point
- 26:48of what you were speaking about, don't buy
- 26:49everything at once.
- 26:51You can actually get on most curriculum websites
- 26:53and look at their scope and sequence, and
- 26:55you you can kind of discern, like if
- 26:57you're familiar with the company, discern, hey, is
- 27:00this the scope my kids are in right
- 27:02now?
- 27:04And um, the reason I never bought huge
- 27:07bundles is because like sometimes my children would
- 27:10be on a more advanced math.
- 27:13Sometimes they would be less a less advanced
- 27:15reader.
- 27:17And so, you know, it it's nice when
- 27:19you have four kids by the time you
- 27:21you're teaching that third one, you've basically got
- 27:23everything.
- 27:25Um, and it's really cool to reuse your
- 27:28books because you see their you see the
- 27:30siblings' notes and you sing, you know.
- 27:32And um we're gonna um and I hate
- 27:34to interrupt you, we're gonna jump right back
- 27:35into this, but we do have to take
- 27:37a quick break.
- 27:39Already, I know, I know.
- 27:41Time flies when you're having fun.
- 27:43But we'll um we'll come back from the
- 27:44break, we'll wrap up homeschooling and then we'll
- 27:46jump into food.
- 27:47But there's a couple other things that I
- 27:49do want to talk about homeschooling um before
- 27:50we change subject.
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- 30:46All right, welcome back to the Nurses Report
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- 30:50I'm your host, Ashley Caputo, and today I
- 30:52have Amy Whitlock with me.
- 30:55Um if you guys were with us before
- 30:58the break, we were talking all things homeschool.
- 31:00Um we're talking about how homeschool doesn't have
- 31:03to be super expensive, and that's kind of
- 31:05where we left off.
- 31:08So I was gonna pick up there because
- 31:10um there are a lot of free resources,
- 31:12y'all.
- 31:14And I will try to go through and
- 31:17I will put some in the show notes
- 31:20um in case anybody's interested, but you can
- 31:22start looking um for resources and you you
- 31:25really do find a lot that can be
- 31:28helpful, and in addition to whatever curriculum you're
- 31:30using.
- 31:33Um, I do use Khan Academy with both
- 31:35my kids, and they don't feel like they're
- 31:37doing school.
- 31:39Um, I have to remind them to use
- 31:42it, but it's fun, it's interactive, it's it's
- 31:45not intense where they feel like they're they're
- 31:48being forced to sit down and do school.
- 31:52So they really enjoy it, and they actually
- 31:54really uh retain the information that they're getting
- 31:57from the Khan Academy.
- 31:59So I do love that one.
- 32:01There's some other free things out there.
- 32:03Out school can be kind of cool.
- 32:05We did a farm um like a farm
- 32:07lesson, and you you pay, you can do
- 32:09monthly or you can pay as you go,
- 32:11but you do some of them are free,
- 32:14some of them you pay for, but the
- 32:16out school that we recently did was on
- 32:18all the different farm animals, and so it
- 32:20was really cool.
- 32:24So um, so my kids really enjoyed that
- 32:27one because I think sometimes you have to
- 32:30think about what your kids are really interested
- 32:33in and geared towards that, and maybe even
- 32:36um, you know, we we have chickens, so
- 32:39we talk about the lifestyle of or the
- 32:42the stages um of the chickens going from
- 32:45egg and into the adult, but we also
- 32:48use the eggs for math, and they don't
- 32:51know that they're doing math.
- 32:55So sometimes you just have to get a
- 32:57little creative um because we'll say, okay, so
- 33:00you got three chicken eggs today, and you
- 33:02got two duck eggs.
- 33:05How many eggs did we get today?
- 33:07And little do they know they are doing
- 33:08math.
- 33:11Um so sneaking stuff, and you get creative
- 33:13as you go.
- 33:15You do you know, start to learn um
- 33:18how to cater to what your kids need.
- 33:22And and I think the mothers need to
- 33:23hear this.
- 33:25Go by your instinct.
- 33:26God's giving you a gut instinct about these
- 33:28things.
- 33:30And um, I feel like homeschooling is probably
- 33:33a calling, but um I see more and
- 33:35more people navigating towards that because you know,
- 33:38let's face it, there's a lot of and
- 33:40before I say what I'm gonna say.
- 33:43I I know some wonderful public school teachers.
- 33:47Yes, yeah.
- 33:48And I so wish they could duplicate themselves
- 33:50and just like be more of who they
- 33:52are.
- 33:55Like, um, but there are some issues.
- 33:57Um I know just where we live a
- 33:59few years ago, like we had some some
- 34:02major issues in the community, and I was
- 34:04so thankful that our kids were not in
- 34:06public school at that time.
- 34:09But I think the mothers need to understand
- 34:11that God will give you an instinct and
- 34:12he will lead us.
- 34:14It's not the curriculum, it's not us, it
- 34:17is God's leadership, and he will help us
- 34:19create the narrative that our children need.
- 34:22And he's God's given you those kids to
- 34:25guide and lead and instruct.
- 34:27And and if as their spiritual uh leader.
- 34:32I think we have to remember that um
- 34:34You know, the Holy Spirit's guiding us, and
- 34:36he's gonna let us know what they need.
- 34:38Um which I think is a great segue,
- 34:40getting back to you know, to where what
- 34:42you were saying about just using life in
- 34:44general as your curriculum.
- 34:46And if this is leading us to our
- 34:48to our next discussion.
- 34:50So when we had a garden, every year
- 34:52my boys would chart the germination of the
- 34:54seed, and they could tell you how long
- 34:56it would take for the squash to sprout,
- 34:58how long it would take you for that
- 35:00How long it would take you for that
- 35:01tomato to bloom.
- 35:01tomato to bloom.
- 35:03I mean, you know, and we were doing
- 35:03I mean, it, you know, and we were
- 35:05handwriting, we were doing art because they were
- 35:05doing handwriting, we were doing art because they
- 35:07drawing the plant.
- 35:07were drawing the plant.
- 35:09Um, we would be outside playing in the
- 35:09Um we would be outside playing in the
- 35:11dirt and learning.
- 35:11dirt and learning.
- 35:12Um they we would turn, you know, let's
- 35:12Um, they we would turn, you know, let's
- 35:14say if they misspelled tomato, we would turn
- 35:15say if they misspelled tomato, we would turn
- 35:17that into a phonics lesson and pull out
- 35:17that into a phonics lesson and pull out
- 35:19the phonics cars.
- 35:19the phonics cars, and it just it was
- 35:21And it just, it was just it was
- 35:22just it was the I don't know.
- 35:22the I don't know.
- 35:24If I could go back to those days
- 35:24If I could go back to those days
- 35:26and relive it, I so would.
- 35:26and relive it, I so would.
- 35:28It's always here.
- 35:30Yes, you always hear that the days are
- 35:32long, but truly the years are short.
- 35:34Yes.
- 35:35We've only got 18 years, 18 summers, and
- 35:37it's just like I'm gonna start crying.
- 35:40But well, even um yesterday I was outside
- 35:43with the boys, and I was struggling getting
- 35:46them to do any kind of lesson, and
- 35:49then all of a sudden I we got
- 35:52the hose on their clothes were off, they're
- 35:55running around the yard naked.
- 35:58Thank goodness we live in the country, right?
- 36:00Um, they're running around playing in the hose,
- 36:02and I just I stopped and I looked
- 36:04at them and I was like, this is
- 36:06okay.
- 36:08Like they are are having fun, and I'm
- 36:10gonna cherish this moment, and I'm not gonna
- 36:13freak out and want them to come inside
- 36:15and start a homeschool lesson.
- 36:18We're just gonna go with it.
- 36:19And they just had an off day and
- 36:20fun.
- 36:22And that bring I wanted to bring up
- 36:25this point real quick before we switch, and
- 36:27then we can um go into like food
- 36:30and it, you know, all the all the
- 36:32things because I think that's important too um
- 36:34with homeschooling because it it all kind of
- 36:37interrelates because obviously the foods that we eat,
- 36:39they help us learn, they affect our behavior,
- 36:42our attention, all the things.
- 36:45But one criticism that a lot of kids
- 36:48and parents get with homeschooling um is that
- 36:51they don't get socialized.
- 36:55So yeah, there's um, yeah.
- 36:58So many studies actually show homeschool students participate
- 37:02heavily in community activities, sports, church church groups,
- 37:07volunteer work, co-ops, and mixed age social settings.
- 37:12Research doesn't support the stereotype that homeschool kids
- 37:15are are typically socially isolated.
- 37:19Some research and educational reviews suggest homeschool children
- 37:22may experience less exposure to bullying, peer pressure,
- 37:25and toxic school environments.
- 37:29So that stereotype's not real.
- 37:32Again, it's important to control the narrative.
- 37:35Um when they come at us and say,
- 37:37Oh, your kids aren't socialized.
- 37:39I come back at them and say, you
- 37:41know, to what degree are you referring to?
- 37:44Are you referring to me socializing them in
- 37:46a setting, you know, where violence is taking
- 37:48place?
- 37:51I mean, how many school shootings have we
- 37:52had this year?
- 37:53And I will say by far, I think
- 37:56I think as a whole, homeschool children are
- 37:59a little bit more mature because they are
- 38:03being socialized, maybe not by the school system
- 38:06standards, but they are being socialized.
- 38:09Typically, it's around older adults, it's mature older
- 38:12children.
- 38:15And I always say my kids have an
- 38:17old soul, but maybe it's not that.
- 38:19Maybe it's just because we socialize them, you
- 38:21know, around mature.
- 38:24Um, you know, people that I felt like
- 38:27was probably the better influence.
- 38:30Um we control the narrative, we want to
- 38:32make sure that our children we're responsible.
- 38:35If we're responsible for what we put in
- 38:37our children and we're responsible for taking them
- 38:39to the pediatrician when they're sick, and you
- 38:41know, why can't we be responsible for who
- 38:43we let influence them?
- 38:46I don't understand why people get so agitated
- 38:49at homeschool parents for and it's not micromanaging.
- 38:52It's it's it's not.
- 38:53We are we're planting seeds for who they
- 38:56will become, and even so more the boys.
- 38:59Like I wanted to raise men, I didn't
- 39:02like my boys are independent men and you
- 39:04know, they care for their families and they
- 39:07they're they're full of you know chivalry, like
- 39:09they're I mean, they're they're on the front
- 39:12line, and you know, it's not below them
- 39:14to stop what they're doing and take out
- 39:17the garbage and help their wife.
- 39:19And you know, it's just I could go
- 39:22on and on and on about it.
- 39:25And um I feel like I said from
- 39:27the beginning, I think we have the blessing,
- 39:30especially the state that we live in.
- 39:33We have a a very good homeschool state.
- 39:37And if you're not in a state that
- 39:38you're unsure of about the homeschool laws, please
- 39:39check those out because we do have these
- 39:41things legally.
- 39:43We're not just flying under the radar over
- 39:44here by the pants.
- 39:46Um, but like in our state, we have
- 39:49very good, currently very good homeschool laws.
- 39:52And you know, we're required 180 days, but
- 39:55they're not consecutive days.
- 39:58If you've got to have an off day,
- 39:59take the day off.
- 40:00We personally homeschooled the whole time year round,
- 40:04and we we took off on Fridays because
- 40:07it was my husband's schedule at that time.
- 40:11We wanted to spend time with him too.
- 40:13We, you know, we wanted to bring Dad
- 40:14in on the picture.
- 40:15And so, you know, his off days were
- 40:17on Fridays and Saturdays and Sundays.
- 40:19So we we chose to homeschool four days
- 40:21a week, and I needed that extra day
- 40:24to focus on the house or to focus
- 40:26on the family or to do planning.
- 40:29You do have to to work towards you
- 40:31know the goal and study your scope in
- 40:34sequence, but um, you know, there's there's no
- 40:36hard and fast rule how you have to
- 40:38do it, you just have to do it.
- 40:41Yeah, you've gotta your family and you know
- 40:44do it the way you need to.
- 40:47And I will say, um, just for example,
- 40:50I have a um a teenager in our
- 40:52family.
- 40:55I will keep it kind of discreet, but
- 40:57we have a a teenager in our family
- 40:58and that goes to public school, which is
- 41:00fine.
- 41:02Everybody gets to choose what they want to
- 41:03do.
- 41:04But it's funny because they're very critical of
- 41:06us homeschooling that our kids are gonna be
- 41:09socially awkward.
- 41:12But let me tell you about socially awkward
- 41:15because teenagers these days, a lot of them
- 41:17are just socially awkward anyway, because they spend
- 41:20so much time on devices.
- 41:23Um so this teenager in particular, he's 16,
- 41:26will be 17 soon.
- 41:30And most of his friends are online and
- 41:33um he is very awkward uh socially, not
- 41:37any fault of his own, but because that's
- 41:40kind of how he's been exposed and been
- 41:43raised.
- 41:47And he's in public school.
- 41:49And he it's it's very I so you
- 41:51know, and then he has been bullied along
- 41:53the way.
- 41:56And that's something that my children aren't gonna
- 41:58have.
- 42:00And now, not to say that some kids
- 42:00And now, not to say that some kids
- 42:01not gonna bully them at the playground.
- 42:02are not gonna bully them at the playground,
- 42:03You know, you you you come across situations,
- 42:04you know, you you you come across situations,
- 42:06and I think it's good to prepare and
- 42:06and I think it's good to prepare and
- 42:08teach your children, use you know, use that
- 42:08teach your children, use you know, use that
- 42:10as almost like a learning experience.
- 42:10as almost like a learning experience.
- 42:13But um, I I think the the whole
- 42:13But um, I I think the the whole
- 42:16socially awkward thing is really just tone deaf.
- 42:16socially awkward thing is really just tone deaf.
- 42:20When you look at the kids in public
- 42:20When you look at the kids in public
- 42:22school now, because you there's always a phone
- 42:22school now, because you there's always a phone
- 42:24or a tablet in front of them, even
- 42:25or a tablet in front of them, even
- 42:27in school, they're not making online.
- 42:27in schools, they're not making online.
- 42:30Yeah, they're not being socialized.
- 42:31And I think socialization is part of the
- 42:33training process.
- 42:35So there's there's training.
- 42:37We have to train our children, train up
- 42:39a child and the way he should go.
- 42:41Um, that's biblical.
- 42:42And um, the other piece that I love
- 42:46about homeschooling when you were talking about socialization
- 42:49is when our boys were 15 and 16,
- 42:52um, two of them weren't were offered jobs.
- 42:56And so as a homeschool mom, I was
- 42:58able to let them do that.
- 43:00They would work in the morning hours and
- 43:03we would homeschool in the evening hours.
- 43:05And because of these early skills that they
- 43:08learned, you know, we counted that as what
- 43:11I what I would have called when I
- 43:14was in school, like their exploratory classes, their
- 43:17extracurricular classes, they learned welding, they learned construction,
- 43:21um, you know, and they were getting socialized
- 43:24to at 15 and 16 that they were
- 43:27they were with very capable men that were
- 43:30teaching them a skill.
- 43:33So you know, by the time they had
- 43:35to be in the in the real world
- 43:38and have their own job, they didn't have
- 43:40problems getting a job.
- 43:42Um, and I think as our children are
- 43:45going into the world, I think that is
- 43:47I think that alone is something that is
- 43:49just as important as the curriculum we're using
- 43:51in first grade.
- 43:54Because if if we do not prepare them
- 43:56to be in the world and to push
- 43:59through and to be like this this man,
- 44:02like not just a not just a boy
- 44:05just trying to to leap out and see
- 44:08what he can do, but like you're preparing
- 44:11them for manhood.
- 44:14Yeah, I think that is just as important
- 44:16as day one.
- 44:18And um, our boys, like in it, and
- 44:20it's not us, it's not what we did
- 44:22as parents.
- 44:24It was the complete total reliance on the
- 44:27Lord and the grace of God because I
- 44:29could not have done it without those very
- 44:32early, very fresh, very new mercies every single
- 44:34day because we had a lot coming at
- 44:37us.
- 44:40We had two in therapy.
- 44:42We had one that was sick.
- 44:45It was it wasn't it wasn't the easiest
- 44:47thing, but I am so grateful we did.
- 44:49Yeah.
- 44:50On those very hard days, we would just
- 44:51press pause and we would just reassess and
- 44:53reset.
- 44:54And I'm now that they're grown and they're
- 44:56out of the house, and you know, we've
- 44:58got our oldest is grown and married, and
- 45:00he's got children, and our uh one of
- 45:02our other ones just recently moved out in
- 45:03February.
- 45:06Oh miss him.
- 45:07But you know, just to see them be
- 45:08okay.
- 45:10Like I have these amazing adults, they're still
- 45:12my babies in my mind.
- 45:14When when my always six, three, you know,
- 45:16muscle men hug me.
- 45:18I I still I still see him as
- 45:20my little boy.
- 45:22And um, but I'm so proud of the
- 45:24adults they are.
- 45:26And I had a very small piece, like
- 45:29a very small portion of that.
- 45:32And um, I I give credit all the
- 45:34Lord because like he filled in so many
- 45:36gaps.
- 45:39He honestly did like it's it's the grace
- 45:41of God that my boys are who they
- 45:42are.
- 45:44But I think homeschooling was a large contribution
- 45:47of who they have become and what they're
- 45:49able to do.
- 45:52And um, you know, I I'm not bragging,
- 45:54but yet I mean they're like they're capable
- 45:56and they're running a business and like they're
- 45:58doing they're doing well, and they're the protectors
- 46:01of their family and they're leading their homes,
- 46:03and you know, not just like I'm not
- 46:05talking about like they're they're just providing food
- 46:08and they're just no, I'm meaning it's more
- 46:10than that.
- 46:12Like I see our oldest son biblically trying
- 46:16to direct this little boy and you know,
- 46:19biblically trying to find God's will for his
- 46:23family, not just the curriculum.
- 46:26It's it's it's it's way more than this.
- 46:28It is like we are creating we are
- 46:30creating men and women to be able to
- 46:32be in the home and to lead and
- 46:34to guide the next generation.
- 46:37And it's it's so it's so much bigger
- 46:38than the curriculum.
- 46:40Yeah, it is, and it's I I can't
- 46:42even I can't think that far ahead of
- 46:44seeing my children grown and moving out of
- 46:47my house.
- 46:49Yeah, and you don't until it happens, like
- 46:52the homeschool years are unfolding, like there's so
- 46:55many years, and then when it's done, you're
- 46:57like, oh, that was the big lesson.
- 47:00Like I stressed over common denominators when I,
- 47:02you know, and that wasn't the lesson that
- 47:04the big I don't think you ever look
- 47:06back and you say, Oh gosh, I regret
- 47:08homeschooling.
- 47:10I wish I had never done that.
- 47:12But I can see if you're in public
- 47:14school, you could look back and be like,
- 47:16man, I wish I'd homeschooled my kids.
- 47:18Right.
- 47:18And I don't want to have that regret.
- 47:20So if if you have that itch, if
- 47:21you want to do it, just give it
- 47:22a try.
- 47:24You can always go back to public school
- 47:26and um, you know, it's just something you
- 47:28don't want to look back and wish that
- 47:30you had done.
- 47:32And some of these curriculums, and a Becca
- 47:34is one of them, they have an academy,
- 47:35they have an online academy.
- 47:38And you can go through their academy and
- 47:40like you're you're at home with your children,
- 47:42you're still the template, you're still the guide,
- 47:44but you know, you are doing the academy,
- 47:47and you know, you're not teaching them per
- 47:49se, you're just like facilitating and admitting and
- 47:51they're they're getting their lessons from the online
- 47:53teacher.
- 47:56So there's a lot of different platforms, right?
- 47:59You know, you can pick what's gonna work
- 48:00for you.
- 48:01And even if um, you know you don't
- 48:04need that many hours.
- 48:07So even if you have a job, you
- 48:08can still try to work it out if
- 48:10it's something that you're really passionate about.
- 48:12Yeah, and our state you're only required four
- 48:14and a half hours per day.
- 48:17And 180 days a year.
- 48:19So yeah.
- 48:22Now let's switch gears to to food.
- 48:25And I think um food can be a
- 48:27part of homeschooling because they can help you
- 48:28prepare and cook the foods and all that
- 48:30thing.
- 48:32But right now, yeah, families are faced with
- 48:35um high gas prices, high grocery prices.
- 48:38We've been dealing with that since what the
- 48:41Biden years, um, groceries became unbelievable.
- 48:45I think my grocery bill doubled um from
- 48:47what I used to pay.
- 48:49And so, and you know, prices go up,
- 48:51they don't usually come down.
- 48:53Although I think egg prices did come down,
- 48:55you know, finally, because that was that was
- 48:56a little crazy.
- 48:58Thank goodness we had chickens.
- 49:00Um, but how if they're eating at home
- 49:00Um, but how if they're eating at home
- 49:03all um every day, seven days a week,
- 49:03all um every day, seven days a week,
- 49:06breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and kids love to
- 49:06breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and kids love to
- 49:09snack.
- 49:09snack, how are we feeding them without breaking
- 49:12How are we feeding them without breaking the
- 49:12the bank and feel like we're still feeding
- 49:14bank and feel like we're still feeding them
- 49:15them good foods?
- 49:16good foods?
- 49:19Yeah.
- 49:19Yeah, I still struggle with this.
- 49:19I still struggle with this.
- 49:20Yeah.
- 49:20Yeah, I mean, I would always just keep
- 49:21I mean, I would always just keep the
- 49:23the staples, and I still do like you've
- 49:23staples, and I still do like you've got
- 49:25got flour, you've got eggs, you've got milk.
- 49:25flour, you've got eggs, you've got milk.
- 49:28Um, you know, when the kids
- 49:28Um, you know, when the kids were very,
- 49:30very young, I would keep powdered milk or
- 49:32canned milk in the pantry just because we
- 49:34would always run out of milk.
- 49:36So um, I would just keep the staples
- 49:38on hand.
- 49:40And um, we we didn't really have the
- 49:43luxury of buying boxed snacks.
- 49:47Um, for us, like groceries have been uh
- 49:50an issue for many, many years.
- 49:54Um, I mean, I remember even back in
- 49:56the Obama era, Obama era.
- 49:59I mean, things got extensive then.
- 50:01I think our grocery prices now are you
- 50:03know exponentially higher.
- 50:06But um, like we've always we had four
- 50:09boys to feed around the clock.
- 50:12Boys eat so much the older they get
- 50:13too.
- 50:15I I don't even know how I'm gonna
- 50:17I can barely feed my kids now.
- 50:19They eat, I I underestimate how much they're
- 50:21gonna eat.
- 50:22Yeah, you know, yeah.
- 50:24So I mean, we um, and I've done
- 50:26this for years, so we've always cooked a
- 50:28large Sunday dinner.
- 50:30So I make a three-day menu, and that's
- 50:32it.
- 50:34That's every week, and we have leftovers, and
- 50:37I fill in the gaps with homemade cookies
- 50:39or you know, we have chickens too.
- 50:41So if they may want an egg and
- 50:43mayonnaise sandwich, um, many times for lunch, that's
- 50:45what we would do.
- 50:47We would just have egg and mayonnaise sandwiches
- 50:49and we would have fresh sliced cucumbers and
- 50:51tomatoes.
- 50:53Um, you know, there was they went through
- 50:55this phase where they really wanted junk food,
- 50:57and you know, sometimes I would buy it,
- 50:59but that was more of a luxury.
- 51:01So like we literally would keep things like
- 51:03banana bread and um cinnamon rolls, like cinnamon
- 51:06rolls was was a big deal.
- 51:08You could throw the dough and the and
- 51:10the bread machine, and like you can make
- 51:12this huge pan, and we'd have leftovers.
- 51:14Um, it's a lot of preparation and a
- 51:17lot of cooking, but you just you just
- 51:19kind of find um kind of on your
- 51:21groove and you know like you make sourdough
- 51:23bread.
- 51:26I'm sure it's rising in the kitchen right
- 51:27now.
- 51:28It is actually.
- 51:29I did it this morning because my they
- 51:31they go through a loaf of bread.
- 51:33So last night my kids wanted butter toast,
- 51:35and I mean, so that's that's what and
- 51:36they wanted eggs.
- 51:38So that's what we did.
- 51:40Okay, that's perfect.
- 51:41And and I I think people get overwhelmed
- 51:42with the end picture because they don't know
- 51:44how to start.
- 51:45And yes, and it it's just it's just
- 51:47staying ahead of the game and just you
- 51:49know, making sure you put your bread in
- 51:51the bowl at night, make sure it's rising.
- 51:53Um meal planning, and it doesn't have to
- 51:55be a seven-day menu.
- 51:57We do a three, sometimes a four day
- 51:59per week menu, and we have we have
- 52:00leftovers.
- 52:02And I know um last week I didn't
- 52:05get to the store, but in the freezer,
- 52:07I had like a broth and some leftover
- 52:10meat from um a roast that we had
- 52:13had.
- 52:16So I pulled it out and I just
- 52:17added potatoes to it and we made beef
- 52:18stew.
- 52:20You know, added a can of tomatoes to
- 52:22it and some rotail, and we had beef
- 52:23stew.
- 52:25And it it was very simple and straightforward.
- 52:28There's just things that we can do.
- 52:30Um, and I know we're running out of
- 52:32time and I could talk all day about
- 52:34you know, preparing things, but honestly, I think
- 52:36we have to, it's more of a mental
- 52:38preparation than it is a physical.
- 52:41And I think as moms, we get so
- 52:42hyped up of oh gosh, I've got so
- 52:43much to do.
- 52:45When you see all the Instagram moms posting
- 52:48and they make it look so easy and
- 52:51all it doesn't have to be so overwhelming,
- 52:54you don't have to be so perfect.
- 52:57I mean, for instance, I bought a whole
- 52:59chicken and I was just not like I
- 53:02I had so much going on, I was
- 53:04like, I can't even think about, you know,
- 53:07moms, you you get um, I've been struggling
- 53:09lately with just feeling overwhelmed with things that
- 53:12shouldn't be overwhelming me, right?
- 53:14Like I think moms kind of go through
- 53:16that sometimes.
- 53:17And so I got a whole chicken, I
- 53:20roasted it in the oven.
- 53:22It was um it was easy, it was
- 53:27it was um you know good.
- 53:33The kids, the kids loved it, and uh
- 53:37they'll eat chicken all day long, right?
- 53:40So um they had they love the the
- 53:42legs, the bone chicken, they call it bone
- 53:43chicken.
- 53:45So we cook that.
- 53:46So whatever leftover chicken I had, then I
- 53:49threw that in a big pot with some
- 53:51water and some carrots and some leftover veggies
- 53:54I had in the freezer.
- 53:56I save all my veggie scraps, yeah, the
- 53:59broth and I threw it all in a
- 54:01pot and I made a big pot of
- 54:03chicken broth and I saved some of it
- 54:06to just have broth because I used that
- 54:08to season things, but then I took half
- 54:11of it and the chicken that had kind
- 54:13of fallen off the bone, and I made
- 54:16a chicken noodle soup.
- 54:18And then um I had also saved some
- 54:21other like part of the chicken breast, I
- 54:24made chicken salad.
- 54:27So out of one chicken that cost me
- 54:2912 dollars, and yes, it was organic, but
- 54:31it was at Costco and it was coming
- 54:33up towards its expiration date.
- 54:35So you know, they had marked it down.
- 54:37So I paid 12 dollars for this chicken.
- 54:40I had dinner roasted chicken one night for
- 54:41dinner.
- 54:43We had chicken salad for lunch, we had
- 54:45chicken noodle soup, and I made chicken broth.
- 54:48It's amazing.
- 54:49It's amazing.
- 54:49That was 12 bucks.
- 54:50Right.
- 54:51And um, I have a stepson that he
- 54:53will go to the store and buy all
- 54:56this pre-packaged stuff, and he never has enough
- 54:58money to like really, you know, feed himself
- 55:01all that he'll make he'll get like sandwich
- 55:03stuff or or ramen or all these things.
- 55:06And I'm like, I really don't think you
- 55:08understand that if you buy whole foods, they're
- 55:10gonna fill you up.
- 55:12Yes, they're gonna last you longer.
- 55:15And in the end, it's more it's it's
- 55:18cheaper because maybe that when you go to
- 55:21the grocery store, you spend X amount of
- 55:23dollars, but that food's gonna last you where
- 55:26if you go and you buy a bag
- 55:28of Doritos, Oreo cookies, don't get full on
- 55:31those things and you blow through them really
- 55:33quick.
- 55:36Right.
- 55:37Junk food's way more expensive than whole food.
- 55:39Right.
- 55:39And when you're talking about feeding your children
- 55:42and you're homeschooling them, you absolutely need things
- 55:44that's going to feed their brain and not
- 55:46you know, spike their glucose and I mean,
- 55:48some kids you give them sugar, they're either
- 55:50gonna be hyper or they're gonna pass out
- 55:53on you.
- 55:55And you don't need either of those.
- 55:57So, like I love to keep pumpkin seeds
- 55:59on hand and mixed nuts.
- 56:00And mixed nuts.
- 56:01Um like my kids loved to just snack
- 56:01Um, like my kids loved to just snack
- 56:04on an apple while they were doing math.
- 56:04on an apple while they were doing math.
- 56:08Yes, I let them eat while they were
- 56:08Yes, I let them eat while they were
- 56:09schooling.
- 56:09schooling.
- 56:10I mean, it's no mine do too in
- 56:10I mean, it's yes, no, mine do too
- 56:11homeschool.
- 56:11in homeschool.
- 56:13And so I think it's important to keep
- 56:13And so I think it's important to keep
- 56:15those healthy fat options on hand.
- 56:15those healthy fat options on hand.
- 56:17Um, you know, keep things visible, the healthy
- 56:17Um, you know, keep things visible, the healthy
- 56:20snacks, so that they're just grabbing the orange,
- 56:20snacks, so that they're just grabbing the orange,
- 56:23they're grabbing the apple, they're grabbing the nuts.
- 56:23they're grabbing the apple, they're grabbing the nuts.
- 56:27Um with that said, God bless all of
- 56:27Um, with that said, God bless all of
- 56:28you.
- 56:28you guys.
- 56:30Thank you so much for joining us on
- 56:32the Nurses Report today on America Out Loud.
- 56:39It's time at this one.