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Lauri Markkanen Trade Rumors,Whose Rebounding for the Jazz?,Utah Football Patch?!, MLB Trade Deadline Rumors · DnA Sports Recap

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SPEAKER_00: Uh, we are gonna be talking a little bit about you know, some trade rumors.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, jazz had a signing over the last week, uh, as well as something we kind of teased last week, AJ.
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SPEAKER_00: All right, so let's go ahead and first start with uh first one, AJ.
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SPEAKER_00: Subject we need to talk about.
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SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be our guy, Laurie Marketing.
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SPEAKER_01: The finisher.
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SPEAKER_00: That's right.
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SPEAKER_00: We talked about him last week a little bit where we talked about how uh the expectations for him are gonna be high.
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SPEAKER_00: Everybody that watched that video, thank you very much.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, we were talking about how he's gonna be returning back to all-star form this season.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and he has the right supporting cast behind him to make that happen.
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SPEAKER_00: And boy, man, it did not, we did not hesitate to see some new trade rumors.
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SPEAKER_01: It's because of our video, man.
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SPEAKER_01: It's because we're over here just preaching the truth.
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SPEAKER_01: Larry's returning to All-Star Form.
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SPEAKER_01: All these NBA beat writers are like, oh yeah, watch this, hold them a beer.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oh my gosh, man.
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SPEAKER_00: It's it's been it's been crazy to see some of this stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: And the fact that it's starting already, you know, it's uh it's just like you know, death taxes, and Larry Marketing trade rumors.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, this new one, AJ, is actually broken down, is actually brought to us by the Bleacher Report.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, again, this is one of those ones where we're not going to break down every rumor trade by every publication, but the fact that this is a repeating one makes it worth talking about, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, so the Bleacher Report came out with an article and they suggested that a trade for Larry Marketing, sending him to the Golden State Warriors.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, but boy, stop me if you've heard this one already, AJ.
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SPEAKER_00: Because again, same, same, same, uh, same song and dance here.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, so again, but hey, the Lakers courted uh Utah for Walker Kessler for years and they eventually went through with it to bolster their future, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So who's to say that the Jazz won't do it again?
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SPEAKER_00: Uh so you know, let's see if this one warrants any discussion and if it's gonna be in the same vein, AJ.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: So the trade.
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SPEAKER_00: The trade.
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SPEAKER_00: The Utah Jazz are gonna send Laurie Marketing and John Contrar uh to the Golden State Warriors for Jimmy Butler, Yaxel, Lindenbor Lindenborg.
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SPEAKER_00: Lindenborg.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'm sorry, I put uh I didn't put a space there.
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SPEAKER_00: Actually, Lendeborg.
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SPEAKER_00: Lendeborg.
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SPEAKER_00: I didn't have a space there.
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SPEAKER_00: So, and Lenden Lindenborg and three first-round draft picks coming in 2028 to 2030, 2032, um, all coming after uh staff's contract is up.
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SPEAKER_00: So great picks, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Great picks.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't think so.
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SPEAKER_00: You don't you don't think the Golden State Warriors picks coming after, you know, not with Laurie Marketer on the team, I don't.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so you know, I've heard the local guys that love this trade, especially uh the hurt hoops nerd uh specifically, he jumped in on this and said this is a great trade.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, what do you think about this trade, AJ?
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SPEAKER_00: Do you think the Utah Jazz uh consider this offer even if it is made?
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SPEAKER_00: So, first of all, did you see who this article was written by?
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SPEAKER_01: Andy Bailey.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: So he's a pretty like well-published does a lot of stuff on Bleacher Report.
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SPEAKER_01: And I've written and or I've written, I've read a lot of his articles.
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SPEAKER_01: I really like his stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: But but this, no, no, my friend.
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SPEAKER_01: This is absolute hot garbage, okay?
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SPEAKER_01: This is not only hot garbage, Darren.
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SPEAKER_01: This is a dumpster fire on top of a propane tank um in a whole pasture of cow manure, hot, stinky garbage.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so you basically just walked right over the notes on uh talking about how great of a massive return this was gonna be, and then just jumped right into I I couldn't even help myself, dude.
6:21
SPEAKER_01: I just couldn't, okay?
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SPEAKER_01: Because why, for any reason, would the Jazz trade Laurie Markin, who is 29 years old, okay, ready to start playing the best basketball of his career.
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SPEAKER_01: He's like right in his prime, right?
6:36
SPEAKER_01: He's in those years where you're gonna get the absolute best basketball out of Laurie Markinen for a Jimmy Butler who is 36 years old on the tail end of his career, and and realistically, like not able to help a team go to the next level.
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SPEAKER_01: We've just seen it too many times.
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SPEAKER_01: So the other piece that they're offering is Jax L.
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SPEAKER_01: Lindenberg, who is drafted 11th overall this year.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: So realistically, yeah, that's I mean, an 11th overall pick sounds great, but we've got a bunch of 10, 11 round picks that just didn't turn out to be anything, right?
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SPEAKER_01: We got the guy we wanted in this draft.
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SPEAKER_01: So if you are just a straight up diehard Warriors fan, this sounds awesome because you get a player in his prime playing some of his best basketball, surrounded by good players on a Warrior team.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this is fantastic.
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SPEAKER_01: But if you're a chess fan, this is one of the stupidest trade ideas I have probably ever seen.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
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SPEAKER_00: I I don't know what to say about this one, man.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm kind of right there with you on this one.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, I mean, it is kind of a massive haul, dude.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, I've heard it from both sides on a lot of local reporters, a lock, a lot of local talking heads, you know, David Locke, uh, Hoops nerd, some other folks, they're all kind of saying, like, this is great, this helps, you know, put more uh draft capital in the coffer, helps for future.
7:53
SPEAKER_00: Like, dude, I am okay.
7:55
SPEAKER_00: Let me just put it this way, AJ.
7:57
SPEAKER_00: Let me just kind of put it to you this way.
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SPEAKER_00: If the Jazz make a trade for Larry Market and before the season starts, I'm gonna lose it.
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SPEAKER_00: Um it's time to see what this team can do.
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SPEAKER_00: Not continue to add draft capital.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, what's the point of having him if you're just gonna, you know, when you got an offer to trade him last time?
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SPEAKER_00: What was the point?
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SPEAKER_01: I can I I'm with you, dude.
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SPEAKER_01: I will absolutely lose my mind.
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SPEAKER_01: Lose my mind if that's what happens.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, see, it's just it's kind of you know, okay, so just kind of give you an idea, okay?
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SPEAKER_00: Just kind of recap it, right?
8:33
SPEAKER_00: So the last trade, right?
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SPEAKER_00: This was uh the trade that was before was Moses Moody, multiple first round picks, a couple swix uh uh swap, pick swaps, and multiple second round picks.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh the team uh that did that um before, you know.
8:48
SPEAKER_00: I mean, if you're gonna do this trade, why, AJ?
8:53
SPEAKER_00: This trade makes absolutely no sense if you didn't do the trade before.
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SPEAKER_00: No.
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SPEAKER_00: Because I would argue that the trade package before would have been better.
8:59
SPEAKER_00: The only reason why that trade didn't go through is because Golden State didn't want to put it in the pod, right?
9:02
SPEAKER_00: The pod's Minsky or whatever his name is.
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SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
9:04
SPEAKER_00: That was the only reason why that trade didn't go down.
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SPEAKER_00: There's no way they're gonna do this.
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SPEAKER_00: I've heard a lot of people saying, oh, you know, it's it's it's gonna be great because it's gonna be a huge haul, and this automatically makes Utah a defensive, better defensive team because Larry Marketin is defensively efficient.
9:20
SPEAKER_00: Uh just stop it, okay?
9:21
SPEAKER_00: Just stop it.
9:22
SPEAKER_00: Jimmy Butler's never gonna play here, first of all.
9:24
SPEAKER_00: No, absolutely not.
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SPEAKER_00: He blocked, he's blocked trades before, he's going to do it again.
9:29
SPEAKER_00: And you know, how much value everybody's like, oh, well, we can get value for and we can trade him to Cleveland for what's his name?
9:35
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, so we can have that uh gosh, rough the top of his head.
9:39
SPEAKER_00: Uh it was in Jared Allen.
9:40
SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Jared Allen.
9:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then yeah, we would trade like, oh, we trade Jimmy Butler for Jared Allen.
9:45
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, who would do that?
9:48
SPEAKER_00: You know, he's 37 years old coming off of an ACL tear.
9:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, how much value does Jimmy Butler still have in this lake?
9:54
SPEAKER_01: That's exactly my problem with this.
9:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and Jimmy Butler is the like, and you need Jimmy Butler to be a part of this just straight on value wise, right?
10:01
SPEAKER_01: Like Butler has to be a part of it because the salaries have to have to somewhat match.
10:06
SPEAKER_01: And I this is just absolute insanity, dude.
10:09
SPEAKER_01: If the jazz do anything to move Laurie Mark in, I I may just hang this whole channel up.
10:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just be done.
10:15
SPEAKER_01: We'll just be done.
10:15
SPEAKER_01: Sorry, Utah Jazz DNA, we're we're out of here.
10:18
SPEAKER_00: No, but I have to agree, man, because honestly, the real uh value in this is being able to flip Jimmy uh for something else, right?
10:25
SPEAKER_00: And being able to have those additional draft capsules.
10:27
SPEAKER_00: We don't want Jimmy.
10:28
SPEAKER_00: Why would anybody else?
10:29
SPEAKER_00: Well, we don't need Jimmy, we have plenty of guard uh guard depth, so we don't really need Jimmy Butler.
10:35
SPEAKER_01: But is there a ton of teams out there that need a super old guard that used to be a star in the league?
10:40
SPEAKER_01: No, like we we don't, he's not even Mike Conley.
10:43
SPEAKER_01: You know, me Mike.
10:44
SPEAKER_01: That's what I was gonna say.
10:44
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, well, you know, Minnesota likes their old guards.
10:46
SPEAKER_01: I know, but Mike Conley's a stud though.
10:49
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
10:49
SPEAKER_00: Like he No, man, I I agree.
10:51
SPEAKER_00: I think this is just article for article's sake.
10:53
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if it's just pushing a narrative or if there's actually any momentum behind this, like you said.
10:58
SPEAKER_00: It is coming from a justifiable source that again, this isn't the first time we've heard rumors out rumors about Larry Marketing, but yeah.
11:05
SPEAKER_00: Um, I have to agree with you, 100%.
11:07
SPEAKER_00: Don't like the idea, don't like the trade.
11:09
SPEAKER_00: Let's hope that doesn't go through.
11:10
SPEAKER_00: Let's hope the Utah Jazz are not going to do what they did with Walker Kessler and just like, okay, well, let's pass on, you know, part of our core uh and build for the future.
11:18
SPEAKER_00: Because we already did that once this month, last month.
11:20
SPEAKER_01: The thing is, we've already we've already done it enough over the last five years.
11:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
11:23
SPEAKER_01: I know what I mean.
11:24
SPEAKER_00: The times now, dude.
11:25
SPEAKER_00: We need to push the chips in the middle and win some basketball games.
11:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's time to win now.
11:29
SPEAKER_01: And and the best way to do that is with Larry Markinen.
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SPEAKER_00: If you want to trade Larry, fine.
11:34
SPEAKER_00: Just don't do it this season or at least wait to the trade deadline.
11:37
SPEAKER_00: You know, like see what this team can do first before you start meddling with it, right?
11:41
SPEAKER_00: Like it just doesn't make any sense.
11:43
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
11:44
SPEAKER_00: We want to hear from you folks.
11:45
SPEAKER_00: Let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below uh when it comes to this uh Larry Marking and trade rumor.
11:49
SPEAKER_00: Again, these are starting to come, you know, fast and furious guys, so let us know.
11:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, if you guys see any additional trade rumors, we'll break them down if you think they have any value.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Let's jump into some of the comments here.
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SPEAKER_00: We got uh McKinley Cutler saying the trade is not happening because Golden State has made it very clear they have no interest in trading any of their future picks.
12:10
SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, uh the only problem is yeah, they're picking the Golden State War is pitching is picking the future over Steph.
12:17
SPEAKER_01: That's absolutely what they're doing, and that's why they're not retooling around them, is because they know right now that they're going to need trade assets.
12:23
SPEAKER_01: Once Steph decides to hang it up, they're gonna be like, okay, well, now it's time to build through the draft.
12:27
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_01: Which terrible time with the way the league just re-restructured draft.
12:32
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if they're gonna be bringing, yeah.
12:33
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they're I think that what they're gonna do is they're gonna try and develop young young players and see who they get in the draft.
12:38
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, it's you know, built through the draft.
12:40
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, I guess that makes sense.
12:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
12:42
SPEAKER_00: I I agree.
12:42
SPEAKER_00: I think that they made the decision.
12:44
SPEAKER_00: They they made their push for uh LeBron and you know, you know, um, what's his name?
12:50
SPEAKER_00: Declined his player option and just signed a one-year deal.
12:53
SPEAKER_00: Uh Draymond Green?
12:55
SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah.
12:56
SPEAKER_00: So he could get his buddy LeBron to come join the team.
12:58
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
12:58
SPEAKER_00: And he just said he basically said, Look, unless you bring me get my trade from my guy AD, I'm not coming to Golden State.
13:04
SPEAKER_00: Uh so he decided not to go to Golden State.
13:07
SPEAKER_00: And they said, So, anyway, I think that's that was part of it.
13:10
SPEAKER_00: And now they're just deciding, look, we're not trading away the future.
13:12
SPEAKER_00: I don't know why they wouldn't.
13:14
SPEAKER_00: I mean, same argument we've been making here in regards to like talks about the Dodgers, you know, like you have a chance to three Pete, you go all in and you do it.
13:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah right, Utah Jazz, you have not won a single title in franchise history.
13:27
SPEAKER_00: You get one and then you worry about the rest.
13:29
SPEAKER_00: I don't care about this whole you know being uh, you know, competitive for the long haul.
13:34
SPEAKER_00: That's great and all, but you gotta win one first, and then you can start worrying about it.
13:38
SPEAKER_00: Just win one, guys.
13:38
SPEAKER_00: You gotta get one first.
13:39
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
13:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we got some other comments here.
13:41
SPEAKER_00: Uh say and I would too.
13:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
13:45
SPEAKER_00: Um, dudes.
13:46
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I have a Jab Jazz podcast too, TT Talk Jazz Pod.
13:50
SPEAKER_00: What's up, man?
13:51
SPEAKER_00: What's going on, dude?
13:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we'd love to check it out.
13:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
13:55
SPEAKER_00: We'll be sure to check it out, man.
13:56
SPEAKER_00: Thanks.
13:56
SPEAKER_00: We'll uh we'll give it uh we'll give it a listen for sure.
13:59
SPEAKER_00: Uh so let's go ahead and scroll back up here.
14:01
SPEAKER_00: We have uh McKinley Cutler, we've got, and I would totally understand if this was an option.
14:08
SPEAKER_00: Uh this was the jazz, this is after what the jazz have on their roster a year or two, and it's obvious the roster construction doesn't work.
14:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
14:16
SPEAKER_00: Kind of what we're talking about there.
14:17
SPEAKER_00: Yep, like a year, maybe, you know, give it a year.
14:20
SPEAKER_00: Like, why are we this wouldn't?
14:22
SPEAKER_00: I don't think the jazz are considering this, but the fact that we're talking about like it makes because of the marketing thing, it makes me worry that they might be considering something like this.
14:31
SPEAKER_00: If Gordon's Golden State puts it on front of the Ain't, uh are we 100% sure they wouldn't do it?
14:37
SPEAKER_00: That's the concern, you know.
14:38
SPEAKER_00: I I would hope not, but you know, stranger things have happened.
14:42
SPEAKER_00: And uh, and then I I would sorry, and then I would think that they would want to use Larry's contract for to trade a four-star that fits better, not more, not for more draft picks.
14:52
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's kind of the thing.
14:53
SPEAKER_00: If there's a if you're trading for a star, you're trading a star four-star.
14:57
SPEAKER_00: I mean, who do the Jazz need?
14:59
SPEAKER_00: They need a seven foot big, you know, they just a good they need Larry Markenin.
15:02
SPEAKER_00: They need Larry Marken.
15:03
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay, perfect.
15:04
SPEAKER_01: We have him.
15:05
SPEAKER_00: We have then who are they gonna trade for?
15:08
SPEAKER_00: Not me.
15:09
SPEAKER_00: You know, what star would you get back on that?
15:11
SPEAKER_00: You know, so like it would kind of be interesting to see that, and anyone saying that they saying they want summer league MVP.
15:17
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
15:19
SPEAKER_00: I like that.
15:20
SPEAKER_00: That's a good point.
15:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh, all I gotta say is that he would that you would we would want that guy when we got the summer league MVP.
15:27
SPEAKER_00: Kind of my point.
15:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
15:29
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
15:30
SPEAKER_00: We'll be talking about flip here in a minute.
15:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um, the only reason I would I would be okay with trading Larry is if they got back, if we got back like Ant or Giannis or a top 10 or 15 player.
15:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it would have to have to be something like that where they're just way out of it and they need to dump a large contract and the jazz would be one to move with it.
15:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, last one thing here.
15:48
SPEAKER_00: I think you're right.
15:49
SPEAKER_00: The article is classic July, nothing else to talk about.
15:52
SPEAKER_00: Article.
15:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, again, we wouldn't be talking about it if it wasn't the fact that this is something that happens every year.
15:58
SPEAKER_00: Someone mentions uh a trade between the Jazz and Golden State Warriors for Larry Marketing.
16:02
SPEAKER_01: It's feels just continues to disgust us.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just just another, and then you know, cue the Ben Simmons workout video where he's making his way back.
16:10
SPEAKER_00: Did you hear he's making another another comeback?
16:11
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I keep, I mean, I hear it every year.
16:13
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
16:14
SPEAKER_00: This time it's not it's not him in the gym shooting threes.
16:17
SPEAKER_00: This time it's uh clutch ports.
16:20
SPEAKER_00: Oh, even better.
16:21
SPEAKER_00: You know, that might be another conversation for another day.
16:23
SPEAKER_00: Should the jazz go after?
16:26
SPEAKER_01: Don't even say it.
16:28
SPEAKER_01: Don't even say it.
16:30
SPEAKER_00: All right, let's go ahead and break down a trade, shall we?
16:32
SPEAKER_00: I mean, sorry, a breakdown of signing.
16:34
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
16:34
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so the Utah Jazz signed uh Harrison Ingram uh to a one-year,$2.5 million deal, right?
16:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, he sure did.
16:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so uh this deal, uh Ingram is 6'5, 230 pounds out of North Carolina, uh, spent the last two seasons um with San Antonio uh appearing in 12 NBA games, appearing in 88 contests with the Austin Spurs, um, San Antonio's G League affiliate.
17:01
SPEAKER_00: In those 88 games with Austin, he averaged 14.3 points, 10.4 rebounds, four assists, one steal in 33 minutes per game.
17:09
SPEAKER_00: The 23-year-old uh played his collegiate time in Stanford, North Carolina, and appeared at 102 games, 98 starts, uh, where he averaged 11 points, seven rebounds, and three assists in 30 minutes per game.
17:22
SPEAKER_00: He was selected all ACC third team uh while in North Carolina.
17:27
SPEAKER_00: Ingram also was named 2001, 2002, Pac-12 Freshman of the Year, in addition to freshman Pac-12 all-freshman team honors uh with Stanford.
17:36
SPEAKER_00: Native of Dallas, Ingram has a gold medal with team USA in the 2021 FIBA Youth World Cup under 19.
17:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
17:47
SPEAKER_01: Um at first appearances, he is I mean, just the right size, right?
17:52
SPEAKER_01: 6'5, big body player, 230 pounds.
17:55
SPEAKER_01: Do you know the connection that Harris and Ingram has with this team?
17:59
SPEAKER_01: I believe, and I think I read this, and I've actually thought you were gonna bring it up.
18:03
SPEAKER_01: He went to the same high school as Keontae George.
18:06
SPEAKER_01: I did not know that.
18:07
SPEAKER_01: Or lived in the same town.
18:09
SPEAKER_01: Like they, those guys were those guys were linked up, right?
18:12
SPEAKER_01: Like this is this was this was something.
18:14
SPEAKER_01: There's very much an understory to this.
18:16
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
18:17
SPEAKER_01: So that makes sense.
18:19
SPEAKER_01: And and and the the fact is, is you know, being a 6'5, big bodyguard, always a good tool to have in the tool belt.
18:24
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's known to be a good rebounding player.
18:26
SPEAKER_01: Uh, he's a good motor, but he doesn't really do anything extremely well.
18:30
SPEAKER_01: He's kind of one of those guys that just doesn't have anything that's just leaps and bounds better, that kind of makes him, you know, you're kind of convinced he needs to be on the floor for.
18:38
SPEAKER_01: But if you're wanting to sign Keontae George, and you know, you you got one of those contracts coming up pretty shortly here.
18:46
SPEAKER_01: This this could be very similar to a Joe Ingall signing when we drafted Dante Exum type of situation, you know, where you kind of bring in buddies to to make sure that things are are working the right way.
18:57
SPEAKER_01: And Ingram has not played a ton of NBA minutes, and I can see the Jazz signing him to like a two-way contract, and you know, maybe keeping Keontae like this.
19:07
SPEAKER_01: This could be something I believe these two have a relationship that's outside of basketball, and that is some of the reason that he is here.
19:16
SPEAKER_01: So um, with a size, if he can become a good wing type defender, it's something that could be pretty productive.
19:21
SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm just I'm not sure he's going, you know, he's not going to out athlete Cody Williams or some of the just you know really solid freak athlete players that we have on the current roster and and steal any solid roster spots from anybody.
19:36
SPEAKER_00: That's interesting.
19:36
SPEAKER_00: I didn't even think about that.
19:38
SPEAKER_00: So I mean, yeah, well, it's tough to know with this kid.
19:40
SPEAKER_00: He's you know 23 years old, he hasn't played much in the NBA so far.
19:43
SPEAKER_00: Uh we'll see, you know, um how things fit for him going forward.
19:47
SPEAKER_00: Uh, you mentioned um the whole thing with um with Keontae there.
19:53
SPEAKER_00: I actually think more about the time where uh we had we shine signed Elijah Milsap.
19:57
SPEAKER_00: Um while we had Paul Milsap.
20:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
20:00
SPEAKER_00: We were trying to keep him around.
20:02
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, wouldn't be the first time the Jazz did it, so for sure.
20:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
20:05
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, interesting.
20:06
SPEAKER_01: Interesting though.
20:07
SPEAKER_01: I mean it's super interesting signing though.
20:09
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he he does have he does have good size.
20:11
SPEAKER_01: He is, you know, he does have some tools.
20:13
SPEAKER_01: He's obviously an NBA caliber player because he does perform well in the G League.
20:18
SPEAKER_01: You know, you think this guy has a chance of making a roster somewhere.
20:20
SPEAKER_01: And coming out of the San Antonio um, you know, coaching tree, you you got hope for him.
20:25
SPEAKER_01: You know, those guys obviously have a ton of good players, so there's hope for him, but I I do believe there's some Keontae George um meddling in that one.
20:32
SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
20:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, interesting.
20:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so uh well again, more roster movements to probably come there.
20:39
SPEAKER_00: We want to hear from you folks uh down below in the comments down below.
20:42
SPEAKER_00: What do you think of the Harrison Ingram signing?
20:44
SPEAKER_00: Is it something, nothing, everything?
20:46
SPEAKER_00: We want to hear from you.
20:46
SPEAKER_00: Let us know where your thoughts are.
20:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, we got a comment here from uh McKinley there saying, I think it's gonna happen uh this time.
20:53
SPEAKER_00: Ben Simmons comeback is real.
20:57
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
20:58
SPEAKER_00: Every every summer, man.
20:59
SPEAKER_00: It's the same thing.
20:59
SPEAKER_00: Do you know he's a professional fisher now, too?
21:01
SPEAKER_00: Like he actually I actually he's probably great at it too.
21:03
SPEAKER_00: He won a fishing tournament.
21:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a hands there's a lot of standing and like throwing your arms around.
21:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I could totally see him being a fantastic professional fisherman.
21:12
SPEAKER_00: Very nice, very nice.
21:14
SPEAKER_00: Okay, we're having some fun with our little gimbal camera here, guys.
21:16
SPEAKER_00: Uh uh AJ keeps gesturing.
21:18
SPEAKER_01: Is it my hands?
21:19
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, and it keeps making the camera move.
21:21
SPEAKER_00: You know, this is bad.
21:22
SPEAKER_00: I I talk with my hands.
21:23
SPEAKER_00: We might have to do something about that and kind of uh I wonder if you can turn him off.
21:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we'll have to figure that out.
21:28
SPEAKER_00: We'll we'll we'll get we'll get to it here.
21:30
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah.
21:32
SPEAKER_00: We'll have to figure that out.
21:34
SPEAKER_01: Anyways, our next topic though.
21:36
SPEAKER_01: I mean, this is a good one.
21:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so speaking of the roster, AJ, um when we talk about that, we talk about the importance of you know one of the most important things when it comes to this team.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: And this is something we talked about a lot last uh last week there.
21:50
SPEAKER_00: And again, was one of the key things I wanted to bring up once you were brought back uh on the set here.
21:56
SPEAKER_00: Um that we never changed the background, we never changed the background.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: Fantastic.
22:01
SPEAKER_00: Love it.
22:02
SPEAKER_00: Gotta love it.
22:03
SPEAKER_00: We'll eventually figure this stuff out, AJ.
22:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're good at this.
22:06
SPEAKER_00: We totally know what we're doing.
22:08
SPEAKER_00: All right.
22:08
SPEAKER_00: So speaking of the roster, AJ, we teased it last week.
22:11
SPEAKER_00: According to uh Stat Muse, AJ, the average starting center in the NBA gets seven rebounds per game.
22:18
SPEAKER_00: Did you know that?
22:19
SPEAKER_01: I did.
22:20
SPEAKER_00: Yusuf Nurkic, according to ESPN, is going to be the starting center for the Utah Jazz, which we both kind of agree that is he's going to be our starting center.
22:28
SPEAKER_01: Best fit, absolutely.
22:29
SPEAKER_00: And for his career, AJ, he has averaged nine boards a game.
22:33
SPEAKER_00: In his 12 seasons in the NBA, he's never averaged more than 11.1 rebounds per game.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: But AJ, as a jazz fan, this is me being an optimistic jazz fan.
22:41
SPEAKER_00: You ready for this?
22:42
SPEAKER_00: I love this.
22:43
SPEAKER_00: He has averaged over 10 as a jazz man at 10.4.
22:47
SPEAKER_00: So we're seeing him get on the boards a little bit more as a Utah Jazz man, right?
22:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:51
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely love that.
22:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:52
SPEAKER_00: That means AJ, the rest of the starting lineup needs to make up six and a half boards.
22:58
SPEAKER_00: Where are those AJ?
23:00
SPEAKER_00: Where are those uh rebounds coming from, AJ?
23:02
SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, if it if they only need to make up six and a half boards, Triple J averages right around six in his career.
23:07
SPEAKER_01: Um, Laurie, in a Laurie Market in his first season with the Jazz, when he played 66 games and was utilized at the correct rate, averaged 8.6 rebounds per game.
23:17
SPEAKER_01: So with just those two, we're gonna be okay.
23:21
SPEAKER_00: Well, you also got to factor in the amount of rebounds that a power forward and a small forward get already.
23:27
SPEAKER_00: I agree.
23:28
SPEAKER_00: So that's not really that's not.
23:30
SPEAKER_01: You said six and a half, so I just I just claimed that.
23:32
SPEAKER_00: We need to make up the difference in six and a half rebounds that the Jazz need by not having a traditional big center under on down low.
23:40
SPEAKER_01: But I I think the I think the good news is is you you have Nurkic, right?
23:44
SPEAKER_01: And at 10.4 rebounds per game, if he can even, if he can just float around that 10 rebounds per game, we're gonna be in okay shape with him at the five.
23:51
SPEAKER_01: You got triple J at you know right around six per game, which he's always, you know, almost that's that's for his career, he's right around six rebounds per game.
23:59
SPEAKER_01: Now Larry's kind of the the one that's going to to really kind of change it because Larry's fluctuated quite a bit.
24:05
SPEAKER_01: He went up, you know, to seven or so, or he went down to seven, up to eight point six.
24:10
SPEAKER_01: So, but the good news is the Jazz last year were ranked 16th in the league at 43.8 rebounds per game, right?
24:19
SPEAKER_01: So that's without Walker Kessler on the floor.
24:22
SPEAKER_01: So we we do, you know, Darren Peterson is actually a pretty good rebounding guard.
24:26
SPEAKER_01: You've got Keontae George Ravages four to five rebounds per game.
24:30
SPEAKER_01: Um, you throw out there Ace Bailey, who's actually a pretty good rebounding, you know, three, four guy.
24:35
SPEAKER_01: I think the Jazz are going to be okay in the rebounding department.
24:37
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, keeping in mind that the Rockets led the league last year with 47 rebounds, right?
24:42
SPEAKER_01: So we're you're you're four rebounds off of leading the league.
24:46
SPEAKER_01: So it kind of shows how tight those numbers are, right?
24:48
SPEAKER_01: Like it's it's not like this is some massive swing.
24:51
SPEAKER_01: And then the Jazz were actually fourth in the league in contested rebound percentage, which is pretty interesting because it just kind of shows this team needs to be exactly what we were kind of talking about as far as I think they need to be scrappy.
25:04
SPEAKER_01: This is gonna have to be a team that's gonna fight for rebounds, they're gonna have to fight for extra possessions and and really just kind of keep playing with with grit um to make up for some of these spots where you know we may not have guys that are individually getting those stats, but you know, if you can keep you know being in the top four or five of um, you know, contested rebound percentage, you're you're gonna be just fine in that in that department.
25:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
25:27
SPEAKER_00: I also have some more good news for you.
25:29
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'm ready.
25:29
SPEAKER_00: Some more good news.
25:30
SPEAKER_00: Keontae George is averaging uh 0.6 more rebounds than your average starting point guard at 3.7.
25:36
SPEAKER_00: Your average starting point guard on a rebound, on rebounds of 3.1.
25:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:39
SPEAKER_00: Darren Peterson and college averaged exactly the same amount of rebounds that uh a guard averages in college.
25:45
SPEAKER_00: So I'm accepting him to have the exact same amount of three to four rebounds per game that a starting two guard will get per game.
25:52
SPEAKER_00: So um I think that will actually, but again, I also think Keontae George, his his rebounds are gonna actually go up because most of the ball holding duty duties aren't gonna be solely on him.
26:01
SPEAKER_00: There's gonna be a lot more spread out on the floor, so a lot more rebounds are gonna be there for uh Keontae to get that.
26:07
SPEAKER_00: Um so in my opinion, we're gonna need to see Larry Market and Jaron Jackson and Yousuf Nerkic all increase their averages on rebounds by about by about a rebound per game to make out the difference.
26:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:18
SPEAKER_00: And yeah, that that way you can come up with uh in the starters, you can get those seven because you know you can't pull it into the second uh uh the second most uh rebounds on the team, which is actually Kyle Filipowski.
26:30
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
26:30
SPEAKER_01: 7.2.
26:31
SPEAKER_00: So you need those actually to stay on the bench because again, someone's got a rebound off the second unit.
26:36
SPEAKER_00: So uh it is good news that I do think that this it's a little bit more of rebound by committee for this team than it necessarily will.
26:43
SPEAKER_00: Our point guard actually averages more rebounds than a standard point guard does, he's also a little bit uh bigger size than most point guards.
26:50
SPEAKER_00: Darren Peterson has been proven to be a two-way player, so I think he's gonna be active and defending players.
26:56
SPEAKER_00: We just need to see improvements from our front court.
26:59
SPEAKER_00: Backcourt, front court.
27:01
SPEAKER_00: I can't even get that right.
27:03
SPEAKER_00: Backcourt.
27:04
SPEAKER_01: Backcourt, yeah.
27:05
SPEAKER_01: Front court, it's front court.
27:07
SPEAKER_01: Well, front court is the center.
27:10
SPEAKER_00: Let us know.
27:10
SPEAKER_00: We this is it is for sure.
27:12
SPEAKER_01: Front court.
27:13
SPEAKER_01: Front court is the center and the forward.
27:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so we're gonna need some more what I'm saying is we're gonna need some more.
27:18
SPEAKER_00: Everybody in the front court needs to add at least a rebound per year.
27:22
SPEAKER_01: No, I'm confused.
27:23
SPEAKER_00: Anyways, we're great at this.
27:26
SPEAKER_00: Here's also some good news, AJ.
27:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
27:28
SPEAKER_00: Only one champion in the last 10 years actually has been top five in rebounding in the NBA.
27:33
SPEAKER_00: Uh, most of them fall anywhere between a seventh and 11th in the league.
27:36
SPEAKER_00: The Knicks last year were actually only seventh in the league.
27:39
SPEAKER_00: So we don't need to be a top 10, we don't need to be a top five rebounding team.
27:42
SPEAKER_00: Right.
27:43
SPEAKER_00: We just gotta be in the top half.
27:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
27:44
SPEAKER_00: So that's the good news.
27:45
SPEAKER_01: But the other team that was there was the Spurs, and they were number two in the league in rebounding.
27:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but they didn't win.
27:51
SPEAKER_01: They didn't win.
27:51
SPEAKER_00: That's a great point.
27:52
SPEAKER_00: They didn't even do OKC when they were top five in rebounding the year before.
27:57
SPEAKER_01: Oh, so that's good news.
27:58
SPEAKER_01: You know, so we just gotta climb a couple spots.
28:00
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna be just fine.
28:01
SPEAKER_01: It's crazy.
28:04
SPEAKER_00: If you don't win, it doesn't matter.
28:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's just kind of how that works.
28:07
SPEAKER_00: Damn right.
28:07
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28:08
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28:13
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28:14
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28:19
SPEAKER_00: Uh, is there any ones that you saw that we may have missed?
28:22
SPEAKER_00: Is the uh Harrison Ingram trade something, nothing, or everything?
28:26
SPEAKER_00: We want to hear from you.
28:27
SPEAKER_00: Uh, and if uh you have any ideas on where those extra rebounds are coming, we want to hear from you on that one as well.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
28:34
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28:34
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29:36
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29:39
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29:39
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29:40
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29:42
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29:43
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29:44
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29:47
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29:48
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29:49
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30:15
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30:30
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30:37
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30:37
SPEAKER_01: This is the It's just the time of year where like there's there's some there's some housekeeping items that have happened over the summer.
30:43
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30:44
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30:45
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30:46
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30:49
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30:51
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30:52
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30:52
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30:52
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30:54
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30:54
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30:55
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30:59
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so AJ.
31:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
31:01
SPEAKER_00: Did you hear the news?
31:03
SPEAKER_01: I've heard lots of news.
31:05
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31:05
SPEAKER_00: When it comes to your University of Utah, in fact, all NCAA players.
31:11
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31:12
SPEAKER_00: Dude, McKinley.
31:13
SPEAKER_01: On it.
31:14
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31:15
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31:24
SPEAKER_00: Look at that.
31:25
SPEAKER_01: I'm glad we got you, McKinley.
31:27
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
31:28
SPEAKER_01: We need you to come be an executive producer or something, buddy.
31:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
31:31
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
31:32
SPEAKER_00: Can we remote control that?
31:33
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
31:33
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
31:34
SPEAKER_00: Um, anyway, so again, folks, uh, it was recently approved, AJ, by the NCAA.
31:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh, following effective, sorry, August 1st, all Division I teams will be permitted to have two additional commercial logos on their uniform and apparel, and an additional commercial logo equipment during the preseason and regular season.
31:56
SPEAKER_00: Uh, with the additional commercial logo on uniform apparels for conference champions as well.
32:02
SPEAKER_00: Uh the patches will be limited to a maximum of four-inch squares per logos.
32:08
SPEAKER_00: Restrictions on the placement of the logos will be uh addressed by the respective playing rules subcommittees and oversight committees and all the fun people that we love seeing in sports that don't really have anything to do with anything.
32:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, but anyway, they will continue uh to have expectations that the logos must be placed outside of the designated sections uh of uniforms necessary for officiating purposes.
32:32
SPEAKER_00: Um, all right, AJ, we've got patches.
32:36
SPEAKER_00: It is a patchwork league in college football.
32:39
SPEAKER_00: Um, let's start there, buddy.
32:41
SPEAKER_00: Give me your thoughts on college football adding patches.
32:46
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't hate the patches, like realistically.
32:49
SPEAKER_01: I guess I kind of it's kind of one of those things that as NIL kind of expanded and you saw this whole league kind of start changing.
32:56
SPEAKER_01: You know, we saw the NBA go to it a couple of years ago, and we just we just all know that every single thing that these players wear, do, everything behind them is just billboards for advertisements.
33:07
SPEAKER_01: And you know, that's that's all we do these days is look at advertisements, you know, your phone, your billboards, your computers, you name it.
33:14
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I mean, I under I understand.
33:16
SPEAKER_01: Whatever, you know, it what what sucks for me is really that college football has gotten to the point of change that it is really just a hundred percent revenue driven and and ad-driven, and that's all that matters in college football now, because this used to be a sport that was fun to watch because players weren't paid and they were trying to earn a contract.
33:34
SPEAKER_01: Um, but with payers being played, teams got to generate more revenue.
33:39
SPEAKER_01: The only way to generate more revenue is to throw out some more ads.
33:42
SPEAKER_01: So it's all good.
33:43
SPEAKER_01: I get it.
33:44
SPEAKER_01: I just I don't love it, but I just I understand it's you know, kind of it was coming.
33:49
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it definitely was inevitable.
33:51
SPEAKER_00: It definitely was coming.
33:52
SPEAKER_00: Some of the things I I I want to talk about here though, AJ, is I want you to give me uh some answers.
33:58
SPEAKER_00: Okay, now as of the time of recording, Utah has not gotten their uh team sponsorship patch.
34:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:06
SPEAKER_00: So I want you to come up with at least, you know, either a serious one that you think is serious, or maybe a patch that you think would be silly to have.
34:13
SPEAKER_00: Who do you want to have?
34:15
SPEAKER_00: And jump into the chat, guys, let us know, jump in the comments, let us know who is your preferred patch sponsor for University of Utah.
34:24
SPEAKER_01: So I think my I think my serious one, and this is kind of the only one that I came up with, because I was like, who who is like a legitimate sponsor that you know you could actually see this team going?
34:34
SPEAKER_01: So, and and for me to come up with this, did you see the Ohio State uh patch?
34:40
SPEAKER_01: No.
34:40
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so Ohio State Um did a did a patch with Chase Bank, um, and that netted them reportedly 17 million dollars per year on their Chase Bank patch.
34:52
SPEAKER_01: Now there's uh you know, obviously some more to that because we're gonna talk in a second about the Big 12 patches and stuff, but um I think that it would be I think that I think that who the the youths could link up with to kind of get something now.
35:08
SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying they're gonna get 17 million a year, right?
35:10
SPEAKER_01: They're not Ohio State, right?
35:12
SPEAKER_01: But someone in a financial in the financial realm headquartered in Salt Lake City.
35:18
SPEAKER_01: Any ideas?
35:20
SPEAKER_01: Zions Bank.
35:22
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's not here, that's not where I was going.
35:24
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
35:24
SPEAKER_01: So Zions Bank is headquartered in Salt Lake City, founded in Salt Lake City.
35:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know, yeah.
35:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so um I think it could be a really nice sponsorship to kind of promote, you know, someone that's here, it's in Salt Lake, like the youths are.
35:37
SPEAKER_01: Um, and I think it could kind of be you know beneficial for both parties.
35:41
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I actually like Zion's Bank as a you know kind of potential patch sponsor.
35:45
SPEAKER_00: I like it.
35:46
SPEAKER_00: I like it.
35:46
SPEAKER_00: You were not gonna go with SWIG or you know, absolutely not like that.
35:49
SPEAKER_00: No, no.
35:50
SPEAKER_01: I know well, I know Swig's not gonna sponsor the youths.
35:52
SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, well, the BYU's taken, so you know, we'll have to get into that.
35:56
SPEAKER_00: We'll get into that a little bit later, but um, but yeah, so anyway, um, yeah, I actually that's a great idea.
36:02
SPEAKER_00: I was actually thinking you might lean towards Wells Fargo.
36:04
SPEAKER_00: Um, they're not necessarily headquartered here, uh, but they do have quite a football here, football here in the financial sector.
36:09
SPEAKER_00: That's who I thought you were leading with.
36:11
SPEAKER_00: I actually have uh a great idea for a sponsor for the youths, and I think that it should be uh my former employer, CR England.
36:19
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's a good one.
36:21
SPEAKER_00: They already handle all the shipping of the team's equipment from one place to another whenever they travel.
36:26
SPEAKER_00: That's you know, yeah, second largest reefer carrier in the country, uh CR England.
36:30
SPEAKER_00: So I think it would be a good match.
36:32
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I just think that would be a good patch, you know.
36:34
SPEAKER_00: They got a connection already, so yeah, I think it would be a good one.
36:38
SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, so just uh uh some cleanup news on that one.
36:41
SPEAKER_00: BYU, uh their patch is actually entrata.
36:44
SPEAKER_00: Um, this is a multi-year jersey patch that they've agreed with uh for football only.
36:50
SPEAKER_00: Um Trata's a property management software company that was founded by BYU students back in 2003.
36:58
SPEAKER_00: Uh the company will collaborate with BYU Athletics and Community Initiatives, creating opportunities for student athletes to engage in meaningful services.
37:06
SPEAKER_00: Uh, financial terms are not uh currently available according to Yahoo Sports.
37:11
SPEAKER_00: Uh, more on that article here in a minute.
37:14
SPEAKER_00: I actually did an event, I actually emceed an event for Intrata.
37:18
SPEAKER_00: Those people know how to party.
37:20
SPEAKER_00: Really?
37:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was great.
37:21
SPEAKER_00: They they rated out this massive resort and they had me uh doing uh this massive stage show.
37:27
SPEAKER_00: It was it was great.
37:28
SPEAKER_00: They did a great job.
37:29
SPEAKER_00: They really know how to throw a party, and I'm actually part of this.
37:32
SPEAKER_00: There's a whole lot of these folks that are coming out of in tech and a lot of these startup things that are BYU alumni.
37:37
SPEAKER_00: I actually shared an office with driver recruiting company.
37:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh, that was some BYU alumni that started their a company.
37:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:44
SPEAKER_00: And that's where most of their NIL money is coming from, is some of these uh alumni.
37:47
SPEAKER_00: You know, the cookie guy, you know, all that's a lot of that's where that's coming from.
37:52
SPEAKER_00: And I really think the youths need to kind of find their own kind of connection to that kind of thing as well.
37:57
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we're not that far away from BYU.
38:00
SPEAKER_00: There's got to be some folks up here that's also starting businesses, the University of Utah.
38:03
SPEAKER_00: Gotta be alumni.
38:04
SPEAKER_00: You would think anyway.
38:06
SPEAKER_00: You would think.
38:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
38:06
SPEAKER_00: Um, anyway, AJ, so that's funny that you mentioned uh with uh Ohio State, is what you said.
38:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
38:12
SPEAKER_00: Uh that they got um 17 million per year.
38:15
SPEAKER_01: Now, now that patch is across all of their sports.
38:18
SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, yeah, yes.
38:20
SPEAKER_00: So also part of the Yahoo article, AJ, is the Big 12 and the Monster Energy drink.
38:26
SPEAKER_00: Uh so this is kind of the first of its kind partnership with Monster Energy.
38:30
SPEAKER_00: They'll be paying the Big 12 20 million per year in exchange for a logo to appear on every football and men's and women's basketball jersey uh for all competing schools.
38:42
SPEAKER_00: Additionally, the Big 12 football men's and women's basketball regular season um will also be referred to as the Monster Energy Big 12 football and Big 12 and Monster Energy Big 12 basketball, respectfully.
38:57
SPEAKER_00: Monster Energy logos will appear on Big 12 basketball courts as well.
39:02
SPEAKER_00: Many critics are saying that this deal is for 20 million price tag, is vastly undervaluing vastly the conference, uh, which appears to be a valid uh as you know, like you mentioned, Ohio State and Notre Dame are pulling in similar figures on just one of their sponsor patches for just their school.
39:21
SPEAKER_01: For just their school, yeah, that's crazy, dude.
39:23
SPEAKER_01: So I think the Big 12 deal with Monster was obviously super rushed, and I just I don't understand why the Big 12 had to be the first one to jump into this.
39:32
SPEAKER_00: Monster Energy, Big 12.
39:35
unknown: Right.
39:36
SPEAKER_01: But I I just don't know why they had to be the first one to jump into this patch partnership, right?
39:42
SPEAKER_01: Because if you go, if you wait and you see what some of the larger conferences were doing and then base your evaluation off of that instead of instead of trying to set the valuation, thinking that, oh yeah, that sounds great, we'll give every school a million bucks.
39:57
SPEAKER_00: Right.
39:58
SPEAKER_01: Like they just they just did it all sorts of backwards.
40:02
SPEAKER_01: So you know, instead of letting the teams figure out the valuation, they let the conference set a valuation that just made us look really bad.
40:10
SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, I mean, could could you could you imagine how much if this conference just waited, could you imagine how much they would have gotten after they saw that Ohio State got 17 million a year?
40:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
40:21
SPEAKER_00: And it's I think that it's exactly your point.
40:23
SPEAKER_00: They rushed it, they just jumped into it, they wanted to be the first one at the gate and set the market, and they did not realize how much they were undervaluing.
40:30
SPEAKER_00: That's what I think it is.
40:31
SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's the league realizing, like, hey, everybody watch us too.
40:35
SPEAKER_00: In fact, there is more to that.
40:36
SPEAKER_00: I actually want to talk about that in a future episode.
40:38
SPEAKER_00: How the Big 12 constantly is playing little brother to the other football leagues, uh, the other college football leagues.
40:45
SPEAKER_00: Like, the reason why we don't have Utah BYU on Rival Early Week.
40:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
40:49
SPEAKER_00: Because they don't want to compete with Georgia versus Ohio State or something like that.
40:53
SPEAKER_00: Like, they just don't want to have our game being competed, so we don't play on Rivalry Week.
40:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're constantly worrying about getting beat in the rankings, which is not something you want to do when you're putting out a you know, when you're trying to put out a superior product.
41:03
SPEAKER_00: Utah versus BYU is one of the greatest rivalries, uh rivalries games that they have in the conference.
41:09
SPEAKER_00: Why would you not, you know, make that one of your marquee games?
41:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
41:14
SPEAKER_00: But, you know, anyway, that's a talk for another day.
41:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, again, I think you're spot on this.
41:18
SPEAKER_00: I think they just didn't realize the value of this patch.
41:20
SPEAKER_00: I think they completely shot themselves in the foot.
41:22
SPEAKER_00: I think that that's not necessarily them undervaluing their team.
41:25
SPEAKER_00: I think it's just showing them how based on the level of competency and how this conference is being ran right now.
41:30
SPEAKER_00: It's kind of embarrassing.
41:31
SPEAKER_00: It really is.
41:32
SPEAKER_00: It really is.
41:32
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, folks, we want to hear from you.
41:34
SPEAKER_00: Let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below.
41:35
SPEAKER_00: When it comes to patch gate for the University of Utah, uh, hopefully by the time this comes out, they don't already have a patch because that would be, you know, our timing, honestly.
41:44
SPEAKER_01: Uh, every time.
41:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
41:45
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it's probably been signed in the last 30 minutes.
41:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so you know, let us know in the chat, guys, if we missed it already.
41:50
SPEAKER_00: But uh, yeah, we want to hear from you folks.
41:51
SPEAKER_00: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
41:53
SPEAKER_00: Who do you think the Utah uh football team should have is their sponsorship patch.
41:58
SPEAKER_00: We got a uh comment here from McKinley, our resident BYU fan.
42:02
SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, the BYU and Utah rivalry game is definitely not on even worst week uh with a ridiculous amount of.
42:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's on a crazy week this year.
42:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
42:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I saw that.
42:14
SPEAKER_01: Like it's yeah, it's like Alabama, Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State.
42:18
SPEAKER_01: Like it's well, maybe not Michigan, Ohio State, but it's yeah, it's on a very busy week.
42:23
SPEAKER_01: Ohio State, Oregon.
42:24
SPEAKER_01: Like it is on a crazy busy week.
42:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm I mean, yeah.
42:28
SPEAKER_01: And so they're still competing, you know.
42:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're still running up against these market games.
42:33
SPEAKER_00: At some point, you need to realize that this is the best product you have for Wire of the Week.
42:36
SPEAKER_00: It absolutely is.
42:38
SPEAKER_00: Put it out there, man.
42:38
SPEAKER_00: Make it happen.
42:39
SPEAKER_00: Especially if these teams go in undefeated.
42:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, which isn't gonna happen, but that's okay.
42:44
SPEAKER_00: It's an optimistic yeats fan right here.
42:46
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, McKinley House.
42:47
SPEAKER_00: I don't think BYU is going undefeated either.
42:49
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we want to hear from you folks.
42:50
SPEAKER_00: Let us know again what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
42:52
SPEAKER_00: We want to stay with the uh University of Utah football here.
42:55
SPEAKER_00: And again, I promise you guys this is the last time we were gonna be talking about non-football things during football season.
43:02
SPEAKER_00: Uh it's technically not football season, so I think we can get away with it.
43:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:05
SPEAKER_00: You know, yeah, we'll get away with it.
43:06
SPEAKER_00: But anyway, so AJ.
43:09
SPEAKER_00: Now, I don't know how much you've been paying attention to this, uh, but this is an article that came out in the Tribune.
43:14
SPEAKER_00: Uh, and this has actually been all over local talk radio.
43:16
SPEAKER_00: So if you listen to Talk Radio, uh, it's all it's a lot of comments about this article.
43:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh, sorry, this bill that's coming up called Saving College Sports Bill.
43:25
SPEAKER_00: Did you read this article?
43:26
SPEAKER_00: I did.
43:26
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so uh in the article, the Tribune uh titled it The Ute uh Ute's Big Ten Dreams in Jeopardy.
43:33
SPEAKER_00: We have a very cle we have been very clear, AJ, on this show in the past.
43:38
SPEAKER_00: And and if it's not even our opinion, I think it should be pretty common sense opinion, uh, that anytime that your team and you're in the Big Twelve Contra Conference, part of your time here is your auditioning for the SEC, Big Ten, and ACC.
43:52
SPEAKER_00: Well, mainly just those first two.
43:53
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but this was an audition period, right?
43:55
SPEAKER_00: This is a time to come in here, show out, make yourself known.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: Um, and this was something that we knew before they even left the Pac 12, right?
44:03
SPEAKER_00: Saying that there's more changing coming down the road, and looking, you want to be on the inside looking out, and hoping versus on the outside hoping you have a way in.
44:12
SPEAKER_00: Uh, the formation of the Super League is coming, and we don't want to be um and we don't want to not be the obvious choice to be taking, right?
44:21
SPEAKER_00: So the bill uh saving college sports is essentially would keep the youths from in Big 12 to the end of their current TV deal in 2030.
44:29
SPEAKER_00: Senior VP uh of the uh external affairs for the NCAA, uh Tim Buckley, told the Tribune that the bill is attempted to prevent formation of superleagues.
44:39
SPEAKER_00: Uh, this discussion is on them capping the conferences at 19 to 20 teams.
44:45
SPEAKER_00: He continues, we believe that it is possible for the legislation that could be changed to give some flexibility on that front.
44:52
SPEAKER_00: Maybe we could allow uh some possibility of for moving larger conferences to adding one or two schools.
44:58
SPEAKER_00: Um, all things being equal, money, buyouts, etc., right now, the Utes would not be one of those two teams taking it at the Big 12 right now.
45:06
SPEAKER_01: No.
45:07
SPEAKER_01: No, they would not be, for sure.
45:10
SPEAKER_01: And and and really, this this bill's got a ton of stuff in it, right?
45:13
SPEAKER_01: And and some of this stuff works really great for Utah, and some of it could really hurt us.
45:17
SPEAKER_01: I mean, like for instance, the framework limits, um I keep doing it with my hands, but the framework limits on school-backed athlete compensation and retention pools.
45:26
SPEAKER_01: I mean, this is something that can kind of help us stay on top.
45:29
SPEAKER_01: There's there is some sort of limit to what schools could, you know, spend and pay NIL contracts.
45:34
SPEAKER_01: Um, I think the transfer limits in this cut in this you know bill is a great idea.
45:38
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, something that's kind of been out of hand for years, eligibility caps, they only make sense because you know, we shouldn't see athletes, you know, that go to the professional level be able to come back to you know college football.
45:50
SPEAKER_01: Um but but but the one that's the one that's scary is the one that you mentioned, and that's the anti-super league freezes.
45:58
SPEAKER_01: Um, because really that that does it it is trying to include provisions that target high revenue conferences, which is the Big Ten and the SEC, you know, to freeze conference expansion and mega mergers.
46:10
SPEAKER_01: So unless we see a massive realignment of how college football is currently laid out, which is what this bill is trying to change, you know, they're trying to keep it as the same as it you know currently is, it could mean that it, I mean, if this passes, it puts a huge limit on what the youths really could be involved in moving forward.
46:27
SPEAKER_01: So um, we just got to stay optimistic, right?
46:30
SPEAKER_01: This this is our team, and we we as long as we keep the winning culture, um keep doing things the right way, getting guys, keep talented players, pay the guys you gotta pay.
46:41
SPEAKER_01: Um, we'll be just fine when this all shakes out.
46:43
SPEAKER_01: The youths are a top 25 team in this country every single year, right?
46:46
SPEAKER_01: And there's going to be teams, I think, when some of this massive massive college realignment does happen.
46:51
SPEAKER_01: I do think that some of these conference teams will be almost relegated out of the super conferences, allowing for more teams to be moved back into the superconferences.
47:00
SPEAKER_01: So the youths need to keep doing what they're doing, and you know, they're they're gonna be just fine no matter what that realignment ends up actually looking like.
47:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and this is kind of what I want to say on the whole optimistic side of things, and it's not gonna sound optimistic, but let me just kind of put it this way.
47:16
SPEAKER_00: Uh, let's say all things are equal, right?
47:18
SPEAKER_00: And let's say that things are different, and at the end of 2027, uh University of Utah is conference champions and they made it deep into the CFP.
47:26
SPEAKER_00: Uh, it's let's just say that they are one of those two teams that are obvious to be one of the ones that are pulled into the Big 12, right?
47:31
SPEAKER_00: Right.
47:32
SPEAKER_00: Big Ten.
47:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
47:32
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, Big Ten.
47:33
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, exactly.
47:34
SPEAKER_00: Um but again, it's still not going to be that easy, easy, AJ.
47:38
SPEAKER_00: Uh, under the section three, the Big 12 bylaws, uh, that would make them um buy out their contract.
47:44
SPEAKER_00: So the last two years of their contract, they would have to pay$50 million.
47:49
SPEAKER_00: That's what they had to pay the last two teams that wanted out of the conference.
47:52
SPEAKER_00: That's what they had to pay to get out of their years.
47:54
SPEAKER_00: Now, I'm leaning on that private equity may not be willing, uh the private equity suits that are back in New York may not be willing to uh cut that check out of the budget to kind of get them out of that, you know.
48:04
SPEAKER_00: $50 million, um, you know, when there's no team revenue coming in, you know, when there's just trying to establish revenue for this team, I doubt they're gonna be willing to cut that$50 million check, right?
48:14
SPEAKER_00: Uh especially since this bill uh leaves the existing conferences.
48:19
SPEAKER_00: Um, if you do this and you do leave, you have to remain independent for five seasons.
48:26
SPEAKER_00: If this passes.
48:27
SPEAKER_00: If this passes and you leave before the contract is out.
48:30
SPEAKER_00: So even if you are one of the two big schools, I don't think it matters because there's so much that's in this, it's gonna nerf anybody wanting to move anyway in the first place.
48:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
48:38
SPEAKER_00: University of Utah is not gonna shell out$50 million, and there's no way they're gonna do that when they know they have to remain independent for five seasons anyway.
48:44
SPEAKER_00: Do you know how much can change in college football in five years?
48:47
SPEAKER_00: I mean massive amounts.
48:48
SPEAKER_00: Yes, like the whole conference would those whole conferences' realignments would have already happened and you would still have two or three more years where you'd have to stay independent.
48:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's just not you know.
48:58
SPEAKER_00: So for anybody who's worried about this bill, honestly, I don't think that the youths were gonna go anywhere uh before the end of this, um, you know, before the end of this anyway.
49:07
SPEAKER_00: Because they still would have to pay out that 50 million, regardless.
49:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
49:10
SPEAKER_00: And I don't think the youths are gonna do that.
49:11
SPEAKER_00: I think they'd rather write out the contract, right out to the 2030, uh, to the TV deal is done, and that's when this bill would allow them to move without all these preconceived jumping notions.
49:22
SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
49:22
SPEAKER_00: Um, I think that's you know, I just think all we're doing is if we're just sticking around in the Big 12 a little bit longer.
49:26
SPEAKER_00: I think that's all that really is.
49:28
SPEAKER_01: I think it is.
49:28
SPEAKER_01: I I honestly I'm not sure if this bill's gonna pass either way, though.
49:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
49:32
SPEAKER_00: That's the other side of it.
49:33
SPEAKER_00: It's like the bill hasn't even got in front of the Senate, uh, which they have to do before the 2026 August recess.
49:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
49:39
SPEAKER_00: And the midterms are in November, so kind of a tight window.
49:42
SPEAKER_00: Real tight window.
49:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
49:44
SPEAKER_01: And really, I don't think this is something we really want to see go into effect.
49:49
SPEAKER_01: I I think it would need some kind of major realignment, especially as a Utah fan.
49:53
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
49:53
SPEAKER_01: This is something that doesn't initially, you know, like really benefit the University of Utah.
49:59
SPEAKER_01: No.
49:59
SPEAKER_01: Um, so me, yeah, obviously, I don't want to see it happen.
50:03
SPEAKER_01: Now, but the the good news is we have the backing from the SEC and the Big Ten because they don't want to see it go into effect either.
50:10
SPEAKER_01: This doesn't benefit those, either one of those conferences because it all it does is cap how many teams they can pull into their super conferences.
50:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they don't want to see any of that happen.
50:18
SPEAKER_01: They don't want to cap on what they can spend.
50:20
SPEAKER_00: They don't want to they also don't want the NCAA to stick their noses and start dictating things when they haven't had the spine to do anything over the last what 20 years exactly.
50:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
50:29
SPEAKER_00: You know, now you want to stick your finger in it and try to make rules and try to enforce things when you haven't done it.
50:33
SPEAKER_00: Too little, too late, man.
50:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
50:35
SPEAKER_00: Why when you guys didn't do anything to save the Pac-12 in the first place?
50:39
SPEAKER_00: Like when you never stepped in, now you want to step in and ask Congress to take care of it for you.
50:43
SPEAKER_00: You're gonna go to mommy and daddy government to take care of this problem for you because you couldn't figure it out.
50:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, I agree with you.
50:49
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, soapbox moment over.
50:51
SPEAKER_00: I'm happy to say that we're gonna put this one to bed.
50:53
SPEAKER_00: Let's get back to talking about some football, AJ.
50:55
SPEAKER_00: Let's do it.
50:56
SPEAKER_00: Let's talk some football.
50:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
50:58
SPEAKER_00: Uh, so obviously, again, University of Utah kicks off in 35 days.
51:02
SPEAKER_00: Camp opens up on Monday for all Big 12 schools.
51:06
SPEAKER_00: AJ, tell me what your number one concern leaning into this season of University of Utah football.
51:13
SPEAKER_01: I mean, first of all, I can't I can't like state enough how excited I am for Utah football to be back because it's almost time and it is a super this is like me and my wife.
51:24
SPEAKER_01: This is our favorite time of the year for sure.
51:25
SPEAKER_01: So um, you know, just over 30 days.
51:27
SPEAKER_01: I can't wait to see the youth the field against Idaho.
51:31
SPEAKER_01: Uh being back in rice cycles is just the things dreams are made of.
51:35
SPEAKER_01: So um, I feel like offensively we we have some receiving weapons, you know, we we got some good guys out of the transfer portal.
51:40
SPEAKER_01: I think the quarterback quarterback position, we're pretty wrapped up.
51:43
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, great to have one, two guys that are that are gonna see a lot of reps this year.
51:48
SPEAKER_01: Um, but my my concern for this team is going to be the same as everybody else, and that's can the offensive line block.
51:57
SPEAKER_01: Um you can have great receivers and great quarterbacks and great running backs, but if you can't get any protection in the pocket or make any holes for running backs, it it's gonna be a long season.
52:08
SPEAKER_01: So um I think the youths have some great guys in in all these positions, and I think that they're gonna have good, you know, good guys step up.
52:14
SPEAKER_01: I think they've got they got some talented guys that have been, you know, um with the program for long enough that they can they can step right in and be really effective.
52:23
SPEAKER_01: But um yeah, my my biggest concern is gonna be how's this offensive line?
52:28
SPEAKER_01: Because last season we're we were really spoiled to have one of the best offensive lines in the country, and you know, two of those guys are in the NFL now, and you you just hope that you know, losing your offensive line coach to Michigan, you got to bring somebody in.
52:43
SPEAKER_01: You you hope that you can kind of continue to produce at that level and uh you know keep coaching and keep getting these guys ready to go to the NFL because we're we're gonna need some NFL talent this year.
52:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I'd have to echo those that sentiment there.
52:57
SPEAKER_00: I think the biggest concern for the youths are gonna be is gonna be the offensive line because you correct me if I'm wrong, but you have no returning players on the O-line, all five, right?
53:06
SPEAKER_01: You you have returning players, just not returning starters, right?
53:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, starters, also returning starters.
53:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, either graduated or went to the NFL.
53:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
53:14
SPEAKER_00: So this is a complete revamping of that position as far as any starting players.
53:18
SPEAKER_00: So hopefully we'll see some uh second union guys step up and and we'll see what we hear coming out of camp, which will keep you updated here on Utah football DNA.
53:25
SPEAKER_00: Yes, we will.
53:26
SPEAKER_00: We want to hear from you folks.
53:27
SPEAKER_00: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
53:29
SPEAKER_00: Before we jump into the next comment there, next uh subject there, before we get out of uh talking about the Utes.
53:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh let's go ahead and hit some of these comments.
53:37
SPEAKER_00: One of the first one I want to hit right here is Greg Hawkins.
53:40
SPEAKER_00: What are we drinking, fellas?
53:41
SPEAKER_00: Uh, today it is Apple Juice and the flavor of Monkey Shoulder.
53:46
SPEAKER_00: Uh that's what we're going with.
53:47
SPEAKER_00: Is it uh yeah, cutting off on the logo?
53:50
SPEAKER_00: We used to have it on the main thing there, but the logo is getting cut off.
53:52
SPEAKER_00: But um It happens.
53:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
53:55
SPEAKER_00: Not the uh best batch we've ever had on this.
53:59
SPEAKER_00: No, no, I don't know if this is an aged bottle, but we were both like, oh this is you know, like this one almost you have to drink meat because as soon as you put any ice in it, it's just not it's not great.
54:09
SPEAKER_00: It's not it's not doing his job, not doing his job for sure.
54:13
SPEAKER_00: One last comment here on college football from Greg Hawkins.
54:15
SPEAKER_00: Uh uh, my love for college football has tanked.
54:18
SPEAKER_00: The entire landscape is messed up.
54:20
SPEAKER_01: It needs some work, buddy.
54:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and honestly, I think it's all fixable, right?
54:24
SPEAKER_00: Like you gotta fix some of the scheduling, you gotta fix some of this like zoning because what we talked about in a previous episode is like you've got teams on the west coast flying all the way over to the east coast.
54:33
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's just there's a whole bunch of scheduling that doesn't make sense, and a whole bunch of like conference alignment that doesn't make sense.
54:38
SPEAKER_00: I think you fix that, you fix some of the other things there.
54:42
SPEAKER_01: You need a salary cap.
54:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you you need something of that nature, my friend.
54:47
SPEAKER_01: Uh you have to have some sort of guideline.
54:49
SPEAKER_00: Coming from me, you know how I feel about salary caps.
54:52
SPEAKER_01: So I I get it, but there has to be some sort of guideline in college football because you have to you have to set the playing field somewhere.
54:59
SPEAKER_01: Well, because right now there's no regulation on it at all.
55:01
SPEAKER_00: Was there ever a regulation on how much you can pay your coaches?
55:06
SPEAKER_01: No.
55:07
SPEAKER_00: Is there any regulation on how much you can spend on a f on facilities before?
55:14
SPEAKER_01: No.
55:15
SPEAKER_00: Honestly, I don't think it necessarily is about setting a cap.
55:19
SPEAKER_00: I think it's about redefining what NIL actually is.
55:23
SPEAKER_01: Well, exactly.
55:24
SPEAKER_00: If you say a player can go out and get money for his name, image, and likeness, it has to be on him and his agent, not the schools.
55:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
55:33
SPEAKER_00: You can go wherever you want to go and play wherever you want to play.
55:36
SPEAKER_00: If your name and your brand is so special, you can make money playing for Wyoming just as easy as you can making money for Alabama.
55:46
SPEAKER_00: It's not on the schools to handle that for you.
55:50
SPEAKER_00: Name, image, and likeness needs to be completely separated from it.
55:54
SPEAKER_00: I think they should be allowed to make as much money or as little money as they want, but it's gonna be on them, not on the teams or the league.
56:02
SPEAKER_00: That's my fix.
56:04
SPEAKER_00: It should be done what it originally was done for.
56:06
SPEAKER_00: You should be able to have your star quarterback go down to the local car dealership, sign autographs for a couple hours, make 10 grand, and that's all it is.
56:13
SPEAKER_00: That's what it should be.
56:14
SPEAKER_00: You want to sign a shoe deal in college?
56:16
SPEAKER_00: Great.
56:16
SPEAKER_00: You want to get some money from being on the uh on the latest like video game, great.
56:23
SPEAKER_00: But outside of those things, I think it needs to be on you.
56:26
SPEAKER_00: I think we've lost the we lost the plot when it comes to what an IA was meant to be.
56:31
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
56:31
SPEAKER_00: So I think that's affects me.
56:33
SPEAKER_00: Honestly.
56:33
SPEAKER_00: I mean, correct me if I'm wrong in the comments down below.
56:35
SPEAKER_00: I'd love to hear from you folks.
56:36
SPEAKER_00: Let me know on that one.
56:37
SPEAKER_00: Um, all right, Matt, so let's go ahead and talk a little bit about baseball, shall we?
56:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
56:42
SPEAKER_00: All right, here we go.
56:44
SPEAKER_00: Major League Baseball.
56:46
SPEAKER_00: Where are you at?
56:48
SPEAKER_00: Scroll past it three times before I see it.
56:57
SPEAKER_00: But first, before we get into the content, folks, we'd like to encourage you to join the conversation in the comments down below.
57:02
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57:08
SPEAKER_00: Do it.
57:10
SPEAKER_00: All right, man.
57:10
SPEAKER_00: So let's go ahead and get into it, man.
57:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, it was great talking about on multiple subjects again this week.
57:15
SPEAKER_00: So we're up to like three subjects this week, which was fun.
57:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
57:18
SPEAKER_00: Um, so again, this episode's running a little long there.
57:21
SPEAKER_00: We appreciate it.
57:21
SPEAKER_00: Thank you guys.
57:22
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we've got a comment here coming from um Michelle McKinnon 403.
57:28
SPEAKER_00: Yay, baseball.
57:30
SPEAKER_00: And also channel legend Greg Hawkins jumping in here.
57:32
SPEAKER_00: Braves, Dodgers, Braves, Cubs, one, three, and four in the NL.
57:38
SPEAKER_00: Go, Braves.
57:38
SPEAKER_00: Very nice.
57:39
SPEAKER_00: Who's number two?
57:40
SPEAKER_00: Oh, Brewers.
57:42
SPEAKER_00: Brewers, absolutely.
57:43
SPEAKER_00: It's pesky Brewers.
57:44
SPEAKER_01: But nobody's a Brewers fan.
57:47
SPEAKER_01: Do Brewers fans even exist?
57:49
SPEAKER_00: I think they do.
57:50
SPEAKER_01: They're very few and far between.
57:52
SPEAKER_01: I've never even met a Brewers fan.
57:54
SPEAKER_00: Speaking of not having any fan bases, let's go ahead and talk about our first subject, AJ.
57:58
SPEAKER_00: You want to jump into this one?
57:59
SPEAKER_00: Actually, I jump into this one, right?
58:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, why don't you go ahead and jump into it?
58:01
SPEAKER_01: I appreciate it, AJ.
58:02
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
58:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I got you.
58:03
SPEAKER_00: AJ, last week, I don't know if you caught the episode last week, but we did talk in Major League Baseball about the team.
58:09
SPEAKER_00: I was actually in the chat.
58:10
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
58:11
SPEAKER_00: You were.
58:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, jumping in the chat, chatting live.
58:14
SPEAKER_00: Loved it.
58:14
SPEAKER_00: Uh brought up a subject we're going to talk about a little bit later.
58:17
SPEAKER_00: Very true.
58:17
SPEAKER_00: Very true.
58:18
SPEAKER_00: Um, anyway, AJ, so last five we talked about, last week we talked about the Red Sox going on a 15-game winning streak, tying their franchise record.
58:25
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but now what we're gonna do is we're gonna talk about another franchise tie uh tying their franchise record.
58:31
SPEAKER_00: Um, but in this case, uh, it's not such a good thing.
58:34
SPEAKER_00: No, didn't go the same way for this team.
58:36
SPEAKER_01: No, no, it sure did not.
58:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the uh the Marlins had a real tough stretch, and they set a franchise record 12-game losing streak, um, which is really tough for these guys.
58:50
SPEAKER_01: I mean, this is uh this is a tough one to overcome because no major league baseball team has ever reached the postseason after suffering a 12-game losing streak.
59:00
SPEAKER_01: Really?
59:00
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
59:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
59:02
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, that this kind of kind of gets you to start thinking if if this team's gonna start looking to be sellers with this trade deadline very quickly approaching, and um, you know, you you fall from 10 games over 500 to two games under, and you know, now you're right about three games out of the National League wildcard spot.
59:23
SPEAKER_01: So this team's really just gonna have to kind of do everything they can to keep pace the Padres, who've been playing much better.
59:30
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they're seven and three in their last ten.
59:32
SPEAKER_01: I mean, the Marlins did gain a little bit of ground, they just won, they just swept the Phillies over the last three, which helped them a ton.
59:38
SPEAKER_00: Helped you a ton.
59:39
SPEAKER_01: Helped me, but it helped them too.
59:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
59:42
SPEAKER_01: Cause I mean, they're they're they're still chasing that last wildcard spot.
59:46
SPEAKER_01: So they're about nine games behind the Braves, so they need to hold it together if they if they want a chance at that wildcard spot, though.
59:52
SPEAKER_00: No, I absolutely agree, man.
59:53
SPEAKER_00: And that's the one really kind of funny part about that.
59:55
SPEAKER_00: How's a team that goes on a 12-game losing streak and has a final wild card, has a wildcard spot, loses 12 games, and now they're only three games out of it.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_00: You lost 12 games straight, dude.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_00: What is going on with the rest of those wildcard teams?
1:00:11
SPEAKER_00: Was nobody getting it together over the last 15 games to put these guys way out of it?
1:00:15
SPEAKER_01: Like, but it sure helps to win three in a row and in the team uh, you know what I mean?
1:00:19
SPEAKER_01: Like three straight up games against the next team you're fighting for a wildcard spot, though.
1:00:24
SPEAKER_00: Very true, very, very true.
1:00:25
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, AJ.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_00: What do you think?
1:00:26
SPEAKER_00: Do you think they pull it off?
1:00:28
SPEAKER_01: Um, I I don't think they're gonna take it back in.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_01: I don't think so.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_01: I think that um I think this is gonna be uh an uphill battle for them.
1:00:37
SPEAKER_01: I I think losing 12 does a lot for your kind of your mental health as a team.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
1:00:43
SPEAKER_01: Even even though you came back and swept the Phillies, um, I think you you start getting worried.
1:00:48
SPEAKER_01: I think the next loss you get, you start worrying again.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
1:00:53
SPEAKER_01: Like you're like, okay, well now we just won three in a row, but that next loss is like, oh no, what if they start piling up again?
1:00:58
SPEAKER_01: You know, yeah.
1:00:59
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, exactly, exactly.
1:01:02
SPEAKER_00: Gotta love it, gotta love it.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna have to figure out how to fix that.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if we just completely turn off the presets and uh all tracking.
1:01:09
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna have to figure that out.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, no, I have to agree with you, man.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_00: I don't think I think the teams in front of them are just too good.
1:01:14
SPEAKER_00: I think you got the Padres you're gonna be battling, you got Arizona that you're gonna have to somehow get over.
1:01:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh there's also, again, like you mentioned, the Phillies.
1:01:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh the teams that are in front of them, I mean, even the Pirates are somewhat uh impressive, you know, in this aspect.
1:01:27
SPEAKER_00: I just think there's a lot for them to kind of get over in order to get that last spot.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_00: So um I don't think that happens.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_00: Uh speaking of teams though, AJ, that um you know are kind of losing games and kind of giving up hope.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_00: Um, I think we need to talk about um some stuff that you know about trade deadline.
1:01:46
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you happened to catch uh Scuball's start.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_00: I did see standing ovation.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_01: And they needed that game against the Orioles.
1:01:56
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that was that was the one that they needed to kind of keep their their wild card hopes going, right?
1:02:02
SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, and depending on how that start ended, depended on whether or not you would see Scuball start in a Detroit Tigers uniform ever again.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_00: Um and uh yeah, it did not go well.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_00: No, it didn't.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_00: No, it didn't go well, but uh I think that kind of is neither here nor there.
1:02:19
SPEAKER_00: Not every start's gonna be golden.
1:02:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, he's gonna give up some runs just like anybody else.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but yeah, man, let's talk about some scuba, man.
1:02:26
SPEAKER_00: We're coming up on the trade deadline.
1:02:28
SPEAKER_00: Um who are the teams that are in on scuba ball right now?
1:02:31
SPEAKER_01: And I mean, really, the the saga just kind of continues, right?
1:02:34
SPEAKER_01: Because every team, I mean, to and to be clear, every team is interested in Tarek Scuball, right?
1:02:41
SPEAKER_01: If everybody thinks they can put together a package, everybody's interested.
1:02:44
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:02:45
SPEAKER_01: But there's obviously a couple teams that we know have the the pieces that would be acceptable.
1:02:53
SPEAKER_01: And obviously the same the favorite is gonna be the Dodgers.
1:02:56
SPEAKER_01: It's just always they got a crazy, crazy stash of top 100 prospects.
1:03:01
SPEAKER_01: Um, they got extra motivation, you know, to kind of add an elite arm to their rotation.
1:03:05
SPEAKER_01: And the Dodgers are just always gonna be viewed as a strong favorite because they've won the last two World Series.
1:03:10
SPEAKER_01: So um the Brewers, they're gonna be aggressive, you know.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_01: They kind of know that um they can only ride the Miz for so long before you kind of need to add a solid aids to help them, you know, through some playoff scenarios.
1:03:20
SPEAKER_01: And I mean, really, scuba would be a dream addition for them, knowing that you know they're they're gonna be willing to send whatever if they have anything that the Tigers are willing to listen to, they're sending everything and a few more to get Scuball at this point because this team looks really good, they're in a strong position to make you know the playoffs and and really be competitive.
1:03:42
SPEAKER_01: And you add scuba to that, and this team looks really dangerous.
1:03:45
SPEAKER_01: So um, I think the Tampa Bay Rays are another team with a super deep minor league system, and you know, their ace Shane McClellan McClanahan has kind of had some health concerns, so you got to look at you know what other options are they to kind of keep their their season afloat.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
1:04:02
SPEAKER_01: This uh the scuba saga is is one to keep an eye on.
1:04:07
SPEAKER_01: I I don't know.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_01: I I I'm really I feel like I refresh that page on the scuba every few hours because I'm just like, yeah, what's going to happen?
1:04:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
1:04:20
SPEAKER_00: I agree with you, man.
1:04:21
SPEAKER_00: I don't think the one that jumps out to me the most, and the one that a lot of people are talking about is the Yankees.
1:04:27
SPEAKER_00: I think a lot of people think that the Yankees are gonna go for it, right?
1:04:30
SPEAKER_00: They're gonna try and get Scuball.
1:04:31
SPEAKER_00: I don't think they're going after starting pitching.
1:04:33
SPEAKER_01: I don't think they are either.
1:04:34
SPEAKER_00: Uh they got Bella, they got Belly out, Stan out, Junge out.
1:04:38
SPEAKER_00: They're all injured, they're all beat up.
1:04:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh, they need a durable bat that can a durable player that's got a bat that can be in the outfield, and they also need a reliever.
1:04:45
SPEAKER_01: It's funny, we talked about a durable bat last week or two weeks ago.
1:04:49
SPEAKER_00: Did we?
1:04:50
SPEAKER_01: That the Yankees could add via trade from another New York team.
1:04:54
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's right.
1:04:54
SPEAKER_00: We definitely did.
1:04:55
SPEAKER_00: Definitely did.
1:04:56
SPEAKER_00: And we know he plays well with uh Aaron Judge and Blue Statement.
1:05:01
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, durable bat.
1:05:03
SPEAKER_00: Actually, he's injured.
1:05:04
SPEAKER_00: Uh that sounds right.
1:05:08
SPEAKER_00: Correct me if I'm wrong in the comments down below there.
1:05:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, Braves, I'm not sure about.
1:05:12
SPEAKER_00: I know that they're one of the teams as well.
1:05:13
SPEAKER_00: I just don't think they're gonna have the capital to outbid the other teams that are in this race.
1:05:18
SPEAKER_00: Um, and again, if the Braves are gonna do it, they have to.
1:05:20
SPEAKER_00: It's one of the they're one of the teams that are probably gonna have to say, Hey, we will sign you to a max extension.
1:05:25
SPEAKER_00: And I just don't know if the Braves ever do that.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_01: I think Max Friedwalk, so I'm assuming they're not gonna I think with some of these contracts that they have, I think that they're if Scuba was interested, if Scuball came to them and said that you know, what do you got?
1:05:42
SPEAKER_01: Or you know, it's obviously not gonna be Scuball, it's gonna be the Tigers, right?
1:05:45
SPEAKER_01: But if the Tigers came and said, and you know, they could negotiate something with Scuball and say, Hey, what are you looking for in the future?
1:05:51
SPEAKER_01: And can we make this work, right?
1:05:54
SPEAKER_01: I I think the Braves are willing to to go all in because the Braves are the Braves are.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_01: fringe and they need one pitcher to kind of solidify their championship hopes right love it nine game lean their division they're still considered fringe but but they are though because they I mean they they haven't they haven't looked great over the last month and they haven't been healthy and but nobody is you know what I mean so you just can't use that as an excuse you've you've got to play good baseball even when you're hurt and and the Braves have looked okay but their starting pitching has been has been sketchy and you know sometimes you get you get guys out there and you have a good quality start like Grant Holmes has been great but you know then you bring in some of these other guys and you know Reynaldo Lopez he he's beginning he started the year for us and you know and he he came out and he's just thrown some horrible game it's like you have one more guy behind Chris Sale you know with a little bit of luck you get Spencer Strider back in a month and a half um AJ Smith Schauber gets back like now you've got some guys that are this is a legitimate pitching rotation that that that is dangerous.
1:06:58
SPEAKER_00: You can go four or five guys with it and it I don't know I I I I just the Braves have some some good pitching prospects but I don't know if I just I don't see them as a top three place that that scoop election has would yeah obviously we'd love to have him yeah I also think there's going to be some other uh parts that could be interesting to them like you mentioned the Raves maybe they don't really want to buy at the deadline but new ownership might be like hey the AL is weak AF right now so let's go for it like they literally can be the team to make it happen right um so definitely a possibility for sure um also we have um the one that makes me the scariest AJ is gonna be the Phillies.
1:07:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah the Phillies are gonna be the one that's gonna be scary they already have great starting pitching you add more it could just be even worse man.
1:07:47
SPEAKER_00: The Brewers also could do it though I don't know what they have in their farm system.
1:07:51
SPEAKER_00: They are uh the Phillies are you know going to be the same issues as the Braves because like what are you going to have what are you going to give them like so I think that's gonna be kind of an issue there.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_01: Kind of what I was thinking because I didn't see they're not they're not super stacked with like prospects from what I saw.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_01: But so it'll be really interesting to see what you know if the brewers come up with something to to try to jump into the you know into the whole thing.
1:08:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah so honestly I think what one of the things we need to worry about there is going to be I don't know why that keeps opening up I kind of trying just to get over to my back to my notes um but yeah I think that the Brewers could be a sneaky pick.
1:08:28
SPEAKER_00: I also honestly think AJ that the two teams that are most likely to get them are going to be the Dodgers Brewers or Raves all three of them have top five farm systems in Major League Baseball and will have much better offers than any other team that can offer them.
1:08:41
SPEAKER_00: Except for one other team AJ I think a sneaky pick is the White Sox really they're leading their division need pitching need pitching yeah who cares if you sign them the next year or not yeah you're you're willing to take the you're absolutely willing to take the one year rental.
1:08:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah so or the half season rental I guess yeah so is it does it really matter you know so um yeah so I don't know man I think it's pretty interesting I'd love to hear from you folks let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below when it comes to the trade deadline one of the things I want to talk about before we jump into that uh into our next subject AJ is I want you to come up with uh I I challenged us both to come up with a rumored person who might be traded um based off of like performances or some kind of something else that you saw who'd you pick um I went with Hunter Green uh the pitcher from the Reds yeah okay yeah so there were there's some trade speculation kind of floating around him right now um the Reds are not in a great position you know they're a team that's uh quite a few games under 500 um and this is a piece that they could kind of move and probably get a nice trade package for that could benefit them moving forward obviously the Reds have some good players on that team um and and I think that they're they're on the they're on the fringe of turning you know when you get you know Ellie Dela Cruz and you know you've got some good guys that you you can kind of start building this team around and then you've got a guy like Hunter Green who yeah he's had he's kind of had an up and down career health wise but he still is only 26 and teams are going to be willing to take a chance on him and they might be able to get some nice um some nice returns that that could benefit them in the long haul um on a season where they're not trying to necessarily win but but gathering pieces to be you know continue to be competitive moving forward would be a a good you know might might be a good piece to to kind of look at at moving.
1:10:38
SPEAKER_01: I like it I like it who's gonna take them I I don't know I mean starting pitching right which would be everybody else who doesn't I guess I guess that's exactly it is everybody needs starting pitching.
1:10:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah especially young starting pitcher I mean this guy throws hard um you know you he's he's had a TJ surgery but who hasn't at this point?
1:10:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah so it's it's not like that's that's gonna deter anybody in major league baseball um to have a good starting pitcher that is is still young still has you know you're still gonna get a bunch of years out of I just I think that if the Reds put him out on the market I think they could see a nice return for him.
1:11:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah I actually love this comment from Tammy Price for a channel obviously said and jest when is this trade going to happen before the deadline yeah exactly like when a cop talks about scuba like seriously yeah it feels like they've been talking about forever and they've actually never officially said that he's on the market you know so it's like it's just and it's funny because after they lost that game it's like now it's on yeah even scuba is on the market it's like no they haven't even announced it yet yeah like it's it's not official it's just everybody's thinking about it right so I actually have an interesting one you ready here for this one I am and believe it or not it actually is I typically try to stay away from Dodger stuff but this one's actually going to be uh what I think the Dodgers are gonna go after okay because I think this kind of actually kind of interesting the Dodgers are going after Clay Holmes of the Mets.
1:11:54
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_00: Reason I say this is the Dodger scouts were spotted at his rehab start uh he has been a starter for the Mets with a sub four ERA uh was an all-star reliever for the New York Yankees because again the Mets just love to steal the uh Yankees play that's the thing that they got yeah that's par for the course it's kind of a weird kink they got but um no kink shimmy here DNA so we're gonna just let it go um but I really think the Dodgers are gonna uh prioritize that optionality he's an all-star reliever but you could also have him be a sub four era starter like that's great right like that's literally what um just Robeski and some of the other starters are and really as as I mean coming from the Dodgers if you can get four or five innings out of this guy yeah in the postseason that's all you care about yeah that's exactly it right yeah I mean if you can get four or five innings out of him and it's sub four like let's go.
1:12:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah you rocky doesn't have a good start he you pull him in the third then you got Clayhomes for four and a half innings and that's and that's all you need.
1:12:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah absolutely yeah so I also I think that'd be a great pick I think again the optionalities there that it'd be huge for the Dodgers uh I love the fact that they're scouting player pitchers that are already injured because hey let's you know Dodgers need injured pitching right because that's all we already have.
1:13:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah I also think the Yankees might actually make a trade for an outfielder to cover the hole that they have right now.
1:13:10
SPEAKER_00: I think they go after the uh Colorado Rockies Mickey Moniac he's okay he's actually having a pretty good year and I think that he would be he would slate in really well on that outfield he could play either side left or right and I don't know how long Belly's going to be out you know but again you have Stan out judge out uh ends belly out you need to start worrying because you're the Yankees yeah you you can't just keep losing no no you may not lose a wild card spot even if you go you know but at some point you need to kind of rebolster that back end because what happens if one of these players go down so I don't know I think Mickey Moniac from the Rockies could be a pick nice addition absolutely former first round pick first uh draft pick actually in major league baseball draft so um anyway AJ speaking of the Yankees AJ yeah um there's something we want to discuss as far as the Caballero rule right this is uh kind of kind of like break down the not the cab caballero rule like break down the actual eight second rule are you familiar with this at all um I am so okay so what we want to talk about is the when your favorite rule that changed recently in major league baseball was the pitch clock the pitch clock absolutely love it uh one of the sub rules on that is the enforcement that a player cannot um start his delivery or come set until the batter is looking at the pitcher yeah or at least towards the pitcher and they have to make like it's and it's like it's almost spit like spelled out as eye contact right like they have to they have to engage.
1:14:43
SPEAKER_01: They have to engage they know that they're they're both ready.
1:14:46
SPEAKER_00: And the batter and the batter has to do it by uh the batter has to be looking at the picture by that eight second mark.
1:14:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:14:54
SPEAKER_00: And so that's kind of what's happening.
1:14:56
SPEAKER_00: So okay you tell me about what um Jose Caballero is doing.
1:15:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah so it's uh well I mean it's it's so the whole this this whole thing is like the unwritten major league baseball kind of rule that targets him because um and and this rule kind of bans batters from spending an extended time looking down at their feet um pretty much baiting pitchers into a pitch clock violation.
1:15:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah so essentially what he's doing what Jose Cabanero is doing and what he has done is he gets he wait gets into the batter's box and intentionally keeps his head down not looking at the pitcher and waiting to the last possible second to look at them to bait the pitcher into getting set and starting their wind up triggering a pitch clock violation against the pitcher.
1:15:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah that's what they've been doing.
1:15:43
SPEAKER_00: Now um this has happened this came actually uh as a big deal teams are getting annoyed by this type of what I like to call air quotes gainsmanship so if you're well so if you're watching if you're listening on the podcast there were some air quotes there.
1:15:57
SPEAKER_00: But yeah so the strict enforcement of this rule uh came after benches clearing incident uh against the pitcher pitch pirates which led the league office to step in and order zero tolerance for this type of tactic.
1:16:10
SPEAKER_00: Basically what they're saying is is that he's doing this and it's causing if the bases are loaded and you have three balls and he does that to try and bait the person into a pitch clock violation or run scores and then he comes in my thought on this AJ is let me get your opinion as somebody who's like getting back into the game of baseball and you know rediscovering your love for it what is your take on this kind of rule?
1:16:36
SPEAKER_00: What do you do you think the league is being unfair to our boy Jose here uh do you think he just found a nifty way to kind of play a little bit of uh strategy within the game uh what's your thought on this I mean yes it is it is a crafty way but I don't like it I don't like it at all because the fact is is is this rule is in place to speed the game up and all he's doing is trying to slow the game back down by avoiding and it's just I feel like it's it just goes against the sportsmanship of what you're what you're doing when you're up there right yeah like this is nobody's routine nobody goes up to the box and sits there and stares at their feet for eight seconds it's not that's not a second yeah he's never done it like he's implemented it this year after the pitch after the pitch clock changes all of a sudden he's changed everything he's doing to try to kind of bait pitchers and doing this be a professional yeah get in the box make eye contact with the pitcher carry the game on yeah I I don't I don't like it I don't like it at all well I I you're in the box get a hit dude get a hit or get them get cat get a walk the old fashioned yeah get it the old fashioned way right then I could go in the box and try to bait them into something like that you could do that you don't need any talent to do that you're a major league baseball player get a hit and it's really funny because this I don't have any problems with batters that do this when there are runners on base you bait that guy to throw an over to you twice just so you know that you have to absolutely yeah that is complete strategy complete games I absolutely love that love it this sounds kind of like I hate to say it but it's kind of a bitch move dude that's a hundred percent a bitch move uh I just I'm not a fan of it I'm no Yankees fans are gonna I'm just not impressed yeah it's it's a it just really and it's not just the Yankees any team was doing this I'd be like what are you doing?
1:18:30
SPEAKER_00: Get in the box and hit the ball in the ball and play just play some baseball dude what are you doing?
1:18:34
SPEAKER_01: You get paid to hit a baseball.
1:18:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah exactly let's either hit the ball or earn a walk the normal way to stop trying to bait him into doing something like that.
1:18:40
SPEAKER_00: I absolutely absolutely I'm glad we're agreed on this one man because yeah I think that's total crap.
1:18:45
SPEAKER_00: Uh we want to hear from you folks so let's know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
1:18:48
SPEAKER_00: AJ do you have a random baseball fad for us this week I actually do not okay actually so instead of doing that what we're gonna do why don't we jump into the comments let's have a discussion about this hang on hang on this is what we're gonna do this is what we're gonna do we're not gonna jump into it too much but this is actually something that was going to be a future topic for next week so this is going to be a tease and it's gonna be this comment right here from Channel Legend Greg Hawkins PCA gonna be the MVP so now we're gonna dive into it deeper next week but AJ first reactions to that comment first reactions um no he's not I think BCA is a great baseball player I um I don't know if he has enough support around the league to be voted MVP.
1:19:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah I've been I I love I love that's where you're at my first reaction whenever I see this is like okay what's his ERA coming from a Dodgers channel yeah coming from a Dodgers channel but actually to Greg's point PCA is leading in almost every offensive category except for one right now great player great player great player if there is a chance for someone to beat Shoey Otani for the MVP it is maybe this year and maybe uh and you know because Shoey Otani's having a down year compared to you know when Shoyotani has a down year it's uh PCA's best year.
1:20:14
SPEAKER_01: But also voter fatigue is real.
1:20:16
SPEAKER_00: Exactly so we'll get into it a lot more and I love this this is like one of the things like LOL he has a higher war which again is the only thing that matters when it comes to ML uh when it comes to MVP voting hashtag mookiebetts over Ronald Acunia Jr.
1:20:32
SPEAKER_00: No you don't remember that conversation when it was Betts versus uh Ronald Acunia and stolen bases equals MVP stolen bases does basically mookie betts had a higher war and a better season overall but because he stole 75 bags can hit he was the MVP but yeah so P Girl's got a beat though how many stolen bases does Parmstrong have that's what we need to hear from Greg Hawkins right now.
1:20:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah no ERA the only thing for sure sure yeah we want to hear from you folks let us know your thoughts are comments down below we're gonna dive in deeper to that next week because I think it's an awesome conversation to have but he's got a point peak PCA has not allowed one run scored this whole this whole year.
1:21:15
SPEAKER_00: That's a very good point.
1:21:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah actually is zero.
1:21:18
SPEAKER_00: Defensive run stage does he have a blow run how many errors does he have in outfield because I technically is allowing a run to score oh yeah that's a good point.
1:21:24
SPEAKER_00: So that okay we're up to probably still less than no shohe though as a pitcher.
1:21:28
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna have to dive into this yeah it's gonna be fun it's gonna be a lot of fun I want to talk about it I want to hear from you folks on it when we talk about it uh we'll get into that uh a lot next week and uh yeah but we got anything else on baseball we want to talk about or we're gonna call it a night here I think we're calling it a night all right well once again folks we want to appreciate each and every one of you for joining us on this episode of the DNA sports recap especially on Major League Baseball DNA on this episode we want to hear from you let us know what your thoughts are on the Marlins uh you know basically falling apart here over the last 12 games they did get a win uh but again that was not uh a great look MLB trade deadline um you know we're gonna come back and visit uh any of the hot moves that happened where school ball landed we're gonna talk about that more next week and uh yeah let's know what your thoughts are on the carbiero roll yep we want to hear from you please do and if you're watching on YouTube on one of our short videos just know this is available as a podcast under DNA sports recap wherever we get your auto go.
1:22:17
SPEAKER_00: With all that said my name is Darren that is AJ and this has been an episode of the DNA sports recap.
1:22:23
SPEAKER_00: Till next time