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UK Column News — 8th June 2026 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon today. It's Monday, the eighth of June twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty six, just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK Colin News.
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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Brian Gerrish. Delighted up Ben Rubyt with
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Speaker 1: me in the studio. Ben, welcome back.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Bryan. It's greaty to be here.
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Speaker 1: You're looking well, so that's good and I think a
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Speaker 1: little bit of sunshine has been in there somewhere. I
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Speaker 1: must say that you were missed by quite a few people,
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Speaker 1: so it was very nice. We had some nice emails
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Speaker 1: saying where's Ben. But you're back and well, so that's good.
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Speaker 1: Where are we going to start. We're going to have
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Speaker 1: an in depth look really at what's happening in UK,
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Speaker 1: the deception that's being imposed on the public. Politics in
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Speaker 1: an absolute mess. But of course the driving theme for
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Speaker 1: people is war and more warther it's Ukraine, or it's
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Speaker 1: in the Middle East around Israel or with Iran. This
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Speaker 1: is all part of the deception to take our minds
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Speaker 1: away from the major attack on people in this country.
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Speaker 1: We're going to be having a look at KAO some breakdown,
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Speaker 1: in particular what's been happening in parliament with bad An
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Speaker 1: Ox Starmer, but also Nigel Farage getting involved. There's encroaching
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Speaker 1: chaos and anger. You've described some of it as righteous anger,
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Speaker 1: so that's going to be very interesting to have a
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Speaker 1: look at. We've got a couple of clips off to
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Speaker 1: guest interviews that we completed last week with David Curtain,
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Speaker 1: leader of the Heritage Party and Robin Tilbrook, chairman of
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Speaker 1: the English Democrats, and that's going to be very interesting
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Speaker 1: to hear a little bit of what they had to say.
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Speaker 1: Then you're having a look at the national emergency that's
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Speaker 1: been unleashed on the population in UK. We'll be looking
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Speaker 1: at activism, how that's going, and then we'll be on
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Speaker 1: to this then onto the subject of radical centrism, which
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Speaker 1: will be fascinating. What's happening with offcom and we're going
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Speaker 1: to have went today's news, but the positive side of
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Speaker 1: what's happening with activism and effort on the streets as
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Speaker 1: it were. But let's kick off with the BBC because
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Speaker 1: the BBC's happy there's war and violence. This time it's
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Speaker 1: attacks on Saint Petersburg. Let's have a look.
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Speaker 3: Hello Anamanda Walker. Russia says Ukraine launched an unprecedented drone
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Speaker 3: attack on and around Saint Petersburg. The governor of the
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Speaker 3: city urged residents to stay indoors for the first time
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Speaker 3: since the war began. Russian officials say more than one
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Speaker 3: hundred and forty drones were shot down over the surrounding region,
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Speaker 3: while the Defense Ministry says three hundred and eighty drones
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Speaker 3: were intercepted across western and southern Russia. President Zelenski released
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Speaker 3: this video on Saturday, saying the Ukrainian drones flew around
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Speaker 3: one thousand kilometers to Russia's Petersburg region, targeting arsenal's and
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Speaker 3: a naval base. He also said an oil depot in
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Speaker 3: Russia's Krasnodar region was hit, calling the attacks a just
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Speaker 3: response to Russian attacks.
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Speaker 1: So, of course a one sided report with the BBC,
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Speaker 1: but an undertone as far as I'm concerned, of glee
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Speaker 1: that the West is managing to expand the war deeper
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Speaker 1: into Russia, and that's possible, of course with the support
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Speaker 1: of the West and in particular the UK in long
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Speaker 1: range weapons such as storm Shadow, but also drone technology.
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Speaker 1: So this is pretty grim stuff. Back at home, of course,
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Speaker 1: Starmer absolutely gloating at the opportunity to have Zelenski with
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Speaker 1: him to talk about how well things are going. Let's
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Speaker 1: just pay this little clip very reich light. I think
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Speaker 1: with the flags outside number ten, I didn't get a
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Speaker 1: warm feeling about this. The red carpet probably represents the
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Speaker 1: blood flowing from under the door of number ten. What
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Speaker 1: shows Zelenski's hand signals he's standing on the steps of
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Speaker 1: number ten. Care everything carefully choreographed. And of course these
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Speaker 1: two men plotting and planning for war and more war,
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Speaker 1: just nothing about it. So I think he ends this
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Speaker 1: clip there we are mini Churchill gesture.
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Speaker 2: There.
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Speaker 1: Now, let's follow that with a look at what I
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Speaker 1: can only describe as a love in. So if you're
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Speaker 1: of a weak disposition, or you don't like things of
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Speaker 1: a sexual nature, you should look away. Let's have a
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Speaker 1: look at how that meeting was followed by this opening
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Speaker 1: of the door of number ten, and well, the men
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Speaker 1: came out. If we just put that on screen, So
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Speaker 1: here they are. And I found this increasingly disconcerting. I've
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Speaker 1: watched this clip several times, but one of these men
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Speaker 1: been doing they've been plotting war and they come out smiling.
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Speaker 1: But it's the amount of hugging and touching ben I
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Speaker 1: found this really quite objectionable. You would have thought that
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Speaker 1: they'd sign some deal that was going to assist people worldwide.
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Speaker 1: But really what was going on in the background here was,
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Speaker 1: as I say, plans to expand the war, extend the
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Speaker 1: war against Russia. And this is the primary focus of
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Speaker 1: these Western nations. But just the physical contact is over
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Speaker 1: the top. I don't know what they've been doing behind
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Speaker 1: the door, but surely it was obvious for the cameras
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Speaker 1: they wanted to be touching each other as much as possible.
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Speaker 1: I'll leave you to think about that here. Propaganda, disgusting propaganda.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely while that's actually going on, of course, we've got
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Speaker 1: problems at home. I've come back to another BBC report.
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Speaker 1: Apologies for that, but I wanted to make the point
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Speaker 1: about what's going on here. And here's the headline. Delays
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Speaker 1: to defense plan undermine the UK credibility. So we're expanding
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Speaker 1: the war in Ukraine, we're targeting the Russian bear. Meanwhile
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Speaker 1: at home k or surround defense and this is the
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Speaker 1: key comment in this article that at the moment UK
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Speaker 1: has no defense investment plan, but we've spent already thirteen
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Speaker 1: billion helping to prosecute the war in Ukraine against Russia.
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Speaker 1: We've got no plan to defend ourselves. Now, I've got
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Speaker 1: a clip of film here which goes back to March
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Speaker 1: of this year. This is the Jeffrey Clifton Brown, excuse me,
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Speaker 1: share of the Public Accounts Committee. Let's listen to what
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Speaker 1: he's saying about the state of the military budget in
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Speaker 1: the United Kingdom.
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Speaker 4: The job of the PAC is, as the House knows,
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Speaker 4: is to look at expenditure right across government. However, the
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Speaker 4: Ministry of Defense, Procurements and Finances have too often been
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Speaker 4: dysfunctional in the past. Indeed, the CNAG qualified his opinion
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Speaker 4: on this year's MD accounts because it could not provide
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Speaker 4: adequate accounting records to support the value of assets under
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Speaker 4: construction of six point one three billion. It also incurred
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Speaker 4: non budget expenditure of two point five to six billion,
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Speaker 4: which will result in an excess vote. So, Madame Depte Speaker,
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Speaker 4: this debate could not have come at a more significant
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Speaker 4: time with the events in Ukraine in the Middle East.
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Speaker 4: When the Committee last examined the Defense Procurement budget, which
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Speaker 4: was over two years ago. Now, the ten year program
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Speaker 4: was sixteen point nine billion in deficit, which the NAO
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Speaker 4: at that time is unaffordable. In June last year, the
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Speaker 4: government announced a highly ambitious strategic defense review, the Defense
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Speaker 4: Investment Plan, And I do absolutely echo the remarks of
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Speaker 4: the Chairman of the Defense Select Committee. The Defense Investment
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Speaker 4: Plan has been continuously promised at the dispatch box, but
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Speaker 4: we're still without detail. For we know that nuclear is
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Speaker 4: consuming over twenty five percent of the entire budget and growing,
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Speaker 4: which is bound to have a knock on effect on
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Speaker 4: how much we can afford to spend on the rest
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Speaker 4: of the procurement program. So it is vital that we
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Speaker 4: have this Defense Investment program. So if I say to
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Speaker 4: the Minister in the most gentle but persuasive way I
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Speaker 4: possibly can, if we achieve nothing else from this debate,
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Speaker 4: can the Minister confirm in clear terms when the Defense
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Speaker 4: Investment Plan will be published so that the PAC the
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Speaker 4: Defense Select Committee of the House can scrutinize it properly.
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Speaker 4: And I note in today's PMQ's the Prime Minister did
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Speaker 4: not answer the question from the Leader of the Opposition
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Speaker 4: regarding the date of publication.
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Speaker 1: Well, there we are, he said a lot more besides,
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Speaker 1: But six point one three billion pounds not properly accounted
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Speaker 1: for thirteen billion to the Ukrainian's no proper defense plan.
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Speaker 1: This is orchestrated collapse of the ability of the United
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Speaker 1: Kingdom to defend itself. It's not the actions of one party.
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Speaker 1: This is across the party cabal and we're looking at
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Speaker 1: criminal activity here. In my opinion, this is a criminal
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Speaker 1: kebal at work. This is not to do with political parties.
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Speaker 1: If the audience doesn't believe me, let's have a look
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Speaker 1: at this video with can be Baderock standing up to
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Speaker 1: speak and pointer a finger at Starmer.
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Speaker 5: As to speak. The truth is unemployment has risen every
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Speaker 5: single month since they came into office. You can listen
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Speaker 5: to their chairs get weaker thinner with every passing moment.
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Speaker 5: The fact is, despite his huge majority, the Prime Minister
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Speaker 5: doesn't have the votes to reform welfare. There is a solution,
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Speaker 5: a conservative solution benefits Bill Down. Oh, miss Figger, missus spigger.
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Speaker 5: They're all jeering now. I don't know why they're supporting him.
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Speaker 5: He is more than happy to release all their text
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Speaker 5: messages while all of his has disappeared. Disappearing disappearing messages
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Speaker 5: from a disappearing PM. There is a conservative solution. Benefits
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Speaker 5: build down, taxes down, growth up. Everyone in this house knows.
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Speaker 5: Everyone in this house knows that he is just a
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Speaker 5: caretaker keeping the seat warm for the Mayor of Manchester.
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Speaker 5: But it doesn't matter who's in charge. Labor MPs will
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Speaker 5: keep asking who can they tax to pay benefits? It
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Speaker 5: is in their DNA. Isn't it the truth, mister Speaker
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Speaker 5: that the problem isn't this passive Prime Minister? The problem
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Speaker 5: is the Labor Party.
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Speaker 6: Forgive me if I don't take too much not to
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Speaker 6: leave the opposition. For fourteen years, they broke our welfare system,
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Speaker 6: lost control of our borders, presided over the biggest fall
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Speaker 6: in living standards on record, broke the economy, prisons, the NHS.
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Speaker 6: I could go on and no wonder she and they
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Speaker 6: are totally irrelevant.
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Speaker 7: Nigel Frunt, thank you, mister Speaker. Following the horrendous circumstances
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Speaker 7: of Henry Novak's death, can I urge the Prime Minister
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Speaker 7: to consider this? It is now clear to growing millions
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Speaker 7: in this country that we're living under two tier police.
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Speaker 7: The instructions that are given two police officers from police
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Speaker 7: bosses are clear and written down in inc it says
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Speaker 7: you must treat and ethnic groups in different ways that
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Speaker 7: apart from the apart from the upset and the anger
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Speaker 7: at the circumstances of his death, the anger that you
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Speaker 7: saw spilling out in Southampton last night and is in danger,
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Speaker 7: which is in danger of getting considerably worse because I
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Speaker 7: lose trust, if the public lose trust in being treated
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Speaker 7: fairly by the police, can he take some action end
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Speaker 7: this divisive practice of two tier policing and make sure
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Speaker 7: that all British citizens are treated the same.
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Speaker 1: Ben, what's your take? Punch and Judy show Punch and
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Speaker 1: Judy show chaos madness. I'm going to show some comments
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Speaker 1: that were posted under that video clip, but Farrage also,
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Speaker 1: they're winding up the tension. This is what people have
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Speaker 1: to say.
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Speaker 2: Sor right?
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Speaker 1: William put that one back on. So absolutely sick of
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Speaker 1: listening to these pantomime clowns throw stones at one another
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Speaker 1: while living in gated communities on inflated wages. They are
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Speaker 1: all just bluster and bullshit hard my French. While the
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Speaker 1: world burns, they thrown sticks and stones like toddlers. Very unfortunate,
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Speaker 1: what a complete joke. The House of commons are nothing
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Speaker 1: ever gets resolved. Shut up, starmer about what the Tories
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Speaker 1: did fix the country or a spineless jellyfish. And while
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Speaker 1: Parliament laughs and smear and sneers, our country is falling.
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Speaker 1: It goes on a complete waste of time. We pay
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Speaker 1: for this bunch of time wasters. It's like watching a
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Speaker 1: bunch of school kids cheering these clowns play fiddles while
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Speaker 1: our beautiful country burns. And lastly, these clowns in Parliament
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Speaker 1: need to stop acting like toddlers. But of course what
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Speaker 1: they're actually doing is creating organized breakdown. And they're using
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Speaker 1: tensions amongst the population and groups and division, as Ben
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Speaker 1: has talked about, in order to completely collapse this country
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Speaker 1: from the inside. And this is the important message when
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Speaker 1: people are viewing the wider context of news. Now, just
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Speaker 1: to reinforce it, let's have a look at Hegseth the
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Speaker 1: D Day Remorate Memorial service. What did he have to say?
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Speaker 8: Sadly, today, different European beaches are stormed by different dangerous ideologies.
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Speaker 8: Beaches in Spain, in Italy and Greece and Bulgaria, boats
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Speaker 8: and men arrive. When will European capital do something about
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Speaker 8: that invasion?
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Speaker 9: Or is it too late.
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Speaker 8: I pray not and I believe not. The men who
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Speaker 8: fought and died here restored freedom to Europe. That freedom
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Speaker 8: must be maintained by this generation of leaders and war
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Speaker 8: fighters or what they fought for was merely temporary.
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Speaker 1: So really obscene that that idiot should be using that
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Speaker 1: platform to insight further division. Is that righteous anger?
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Speaker 10: Ben?
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Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything righteous about Pete Hegseth. And
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Speaker 2: noticeably he doesn't actually say who's behind this mass invasion.
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Speaker 2: He just talks about the fact that it's happening. Interestingly enough, No,
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Speaker 2: it's just, as I said, a punching Judy show, hypocrisy
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Speaker 2: across the board and the only standards that they have
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Speaker 2: apparently at double standards. I've got a short clip here
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Speaker 2: from Sky News with David Lammy being questioned about the
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Speaker 2: Labor Former as they are in opposition in twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: and the response that he and others in the party
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Speaker 2: took to the George Floyd situation versus the most recent
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Speaker 2: response to Henry Novaks have a little listen.
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Speaker 11: One of the reasons I was interested in what Jade
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Speaker 11: Evans said was he used a really interesting phrase and
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Speaker 11: it's an unusual phrase. Here's what he said. Each time
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Speaker 11: a life like his is lost, the proper response, the
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Speaker 11: only response is righteous anger. I looked up what you
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Speaker 11: said about the death of George Floyd. We have to
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Speaker 11: find a way to transform this righteous anger into meaningful reform.
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Speaker 11: I think this is quite interesting because righteous anger is
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Speaker 11: a phrase that you and I understand, and I wondered
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Speaker 11: if Jade Evans had actually been taking some advice from you.
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Speaker 12: I do understand that phrase, and of course a sort
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Speaker 12: of deep, deep pain and anger as a result of
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Speaker 12: the death.
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Speaker 7: But let me just give it.
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Speaker 11: You say that it's fine, and then you tell you know,
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Speaker 11: mister Farage, who's apparently now beyond the put pail for
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Speaker 11: saying he didn't call for people to go and do things.
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Speaker 11: He said that response that he would like to see
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Speaker 11: is rage. Not that different from rageous anger.
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Speaker 12: Let's qualify this. Nigel Farage was speaking in to the
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Speaker 12: protest and the Despicable Acts of Criminal Damage and Violence
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Speaker 12: director at the Police in Southampton. It was not a
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Speaker 12: responsible thing to do.
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Speaker 2: So when Lammy does it in twenty twenty, it's fine
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Speaker 2: and righteous. But when jd Events and Farage do it
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. It's not fine.
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Speaker 1: Duilicity common theme amongst politic total hypocrisy.
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Speaker 2: Yes, total hypocrisy. And is there righteous anger in the
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Speaker 2: wake of well in the country broadly, but certainly in
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Speaker 2: the wake of the Henry Novak incident. Yes, it's fair
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Speaker 2: to say that there is faras just mentioned there this
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Speaker 2: issue of tier tier policing. It's been denied fairly comprehensively
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Speaker 2: by not least the political left, including Lammy and Starmer
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Speaker 2: and others, but it's actually been encoded into law. We
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Speaker 2: can see this from the Hampshire Police Racial Equity Plan
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Speaker 2: says that producing equality of policing outcomes for people from
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Speaker 2: different ethnic groups, corresponding to individuals and communities according to
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Speaker 2: their specific needs, circumstances and experiences, with understanding that these
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Speaker 2: will be racialized. These will be racialized and with the
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Speaker 2: aim of reducing harm does not mean treating everyone the
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Speaker 2: same or being color blind. So that's actually coded into
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Speaker 2: policy in Hampshire Police. That was cascaded down from a
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Speaker 2: national policy as well, which came from the Police, the
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Speaker 2: Police Chiefs Commission. I think it's called forget the name. Sorry.
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Speaker 2: So there is Raja Sanger about two tier policing does exist,
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Speaker 2: But I think it's also really important for us with
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Speaker 2: knowledge that this has been going on for a long
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Speaker 2: time and for many decades. This year was actually on
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Speaker 2: the other foot. I've got a quote here from a
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Speaker 2: gentleman that I follow on social media who's mixed race
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Speaker 2: at Jamaican and English heritage from Southeast London, who says
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Speaker 2: that two tier policing. I keep seeing people say this
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Speaker 2: like they just invented the concept. When I was about two,
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Speaker 2: my mum was attacked by n F thugs who tried
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Speaker 2: to kick me out of my pram. At eight, a
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Speaker 2: teacher called me a golliwog of fifteen. Two police officers
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Speaker 2: beat me in a cell and told me to f
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Speaker 2: off back to my own country, which is weird because
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Speaker 2: I was already there because I was born and raised
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Speaker 2: in London. Those same officers and their little racist mates
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Speaker 2: tried to fit me up multiple times, arrested me for
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Speaker 2: a robbery from a nine to nine nine call, No victim, witnesses, nothing.
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Speaker 2: What happened to Henry Novak was awful, full stop. The
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Speaker 2: people screaming about unequal policing now have been silent through
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Speaker 2: every black death and custody, every fabricated charge, every McPherson report,
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Speaker 2: every shooting of an unarmed black person, every stop and
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Speaker 2: search statistic they're consciously didn't activate until the inequality pointed
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Speaker 2: somewhere new tier tier policing finally matters when it's aimed
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Speaker 2: at you though, right, So, I think there's probably something
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Speaker 2: that needs to be looked at and understood from all
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Speaker 2: parties to tier policing.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And what, of course FARAG does not talk about
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Speaker 1: is where this policy came from. Who are the body
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Speaker 1: it's creating the policy that's now effectively destroyed the police
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Speaker 1: from the inside and creating this diverse, divisive antagonism as
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Speaker 1: a result of policy which flips and flops from one
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Speaker 1: side to the other.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely in a system which ultimately persecutes everyone at the
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Speaker 2: end of the right, which is the main issue actually,
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Speaker 2: and I think we're people need to start understanding. You
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Speaker 2: need to look in the center, not the people on
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Speaker 2: the other side of the artificial dividing lines too. You've
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Speaker 2: been told of your enemy, but actually the people who
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Speaker 2: are coordinating this whole game in the first place. So
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Speaker 2: much more on that to come, more righteous anger, just
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Speaker 2: to finish up. I just noticed this from Rupert Lowe's
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Speaker 2: tweeting over the weekend, saying that we should be angry,
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Speaker 2: but we need to use that anger directed for change,
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Speaker 2: radical change through the ballot box the only way apparently.
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Speaker 2: So we've been directed into political solutions, apparently.
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Speaker 1: A single political solution by Rupert Lowe because he's got
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Speaker 1: the money and the ability to capture votes for other
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Speaker 1: people challenging the system. It's rather different now. I'm very
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Speaker 1: pleased that last week I was able to interview David
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Speaker 1: Curtain from the Heritage Party and also Robin Tilbrook from
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Speaker 1: the English Democrats. Little clip here, let's hear what David
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Speaker 1: Curtain had to say about the realities of trying to
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Speaker 1: get involved as a small political party. So I'm joined
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Speaker 1: by David Curtain today from that leader of the Heritage Party.
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Speaker 1: David's kindly agreed to speak to me about the political
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Speaker 1: environment that we're in at the moment. Lots of exciting things.
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Speaker 1: So David, welcome to UK column.
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Speaker 9: Thanks Brian, it's good to join you again. And we
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Speaker 9: were the only one that they designated as a minor
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Speaker 9: party that qualified to get a party election broadcast because
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Speaker 9: we stood candidates in every single seat, and I think
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Speaker 9: they did that to try to stop anyone apart from
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Speaker 9: these six that they designated as major from actually getting
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Speaker 9: any attention on the mainstream whatsoever. But even though we
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Speaker 9: did qualify, they still didn't invite us to the leader's debates,
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Speaker 9: to the party debates and so on that they had
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Speaker 9: in Cardiff where they invited all the leaders of the
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Speaker 9: parties in Wales to well the six that they designated
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Speaker 9: major parties to go and have debates and discuss politics
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Speaker 9: in Wales and their election campaigns. We were still excluded
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Speaker 9: from that by the mainstream. So it's very very frustrating,
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Speaker 9: and even some hustings that they were put on in
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Speaker 9: various constituencies we weren't invited to, which again was very frustrating.
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Speaker 9: I mean that there's no legal obligation on these organizations
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Speaker 9: to do so, you know, they're still allowed to invite
23:26
Speaker 9: who they want and who they don't want. But I
23:28
Speaker 9: think it's an affront to democracy and it's really simply
23:31
Speaker 9: as unfair not to invite everyone who's standing as a candidate,
23:37
Speaker 9: especially as you you have to pay a lot of
23:39
Speaker 9: money to stand and it's five hundred pounds per constituency
23:43
Speaker 9: for the deposits. So this is not a cheap endeavor
23:48
Speaker 9: for most people, you know, it's you've got to be
23:50
Speaker 9: you know, the wealthy parties who've got five million pound donations,
23:54
Speaker 9: it's no problem. But we're just ordinary people, you know.
23:58
Speaker 9: Most of us are struggling to earn a living, so
24:01
Speaker 9: it's a big, big sacrifice to try to get the
24:04
Speaker 9: money together to stand and then to campaign as well,
24:08
Speaker 9: on top of paying the deposits.
24:11
Speaker 1: So pretty easy to understand manipulation of the democratic process
24:15
Speaker 1: and make sure any challenges to the uniparty system are
24:19
Speaker 1: kept in the long grasp. There are ways around this.
24:23
Speaker 1: Let's have listen now to Robin Tilbrook from the English
24:27
Speaker 1: Democrats talking about really threats that we are facing within
24:32
Speaker 1: the British Arles and in particular within England itself. Robin,
24:38
Speaker 1: thank you very much for agreeing to speak to me today.
24:42
Speaker 10: Thank you, Brian, thank you for having me. We then
24:44
Speaker 10: had the Scottish and Welsh referendo which caused the under
24:51
Speaker 10: Blair government, caused national devolution for Scotland Wales, and by
24:58
Speaker 10: then William Hague had become the leader and he was
25:08
Speaker 10: it was interesting he started to play a bit about
25:12
Speaker 10: doing something for England, and one of the Lib Dems
25:17
Speaker 10: attacked him saying he got into the gutter of English nationalism.
25:21
Speaker 10: But he also said in a BBC interview when he
25:28
Speaker 10: was leader that English nationalism was the worst form of
25:32
Speaker 10: all nationalisms. So he was he was certainly not a
25:38
Speaker 10: friend to England and he would probably have rather agreed with.
25:46
Speaker 8: That.
25:46
Speaker 10: Then Leader of the Liberal Democrats Charles Kennedy, who said
25:51
Speaker 10: that he approved a regionalization for England, which is the
25:55
Speaker 10: break up of England into holy bogus regions that have
25:59
Speaker 10: no social, historical or any kind of legitimacy. And so
26:11
Speaker 10: he approved a regionalization, Charles Kennedy said because it was
26:17
Speaker 10: calling into question the idea of England itself.
26:23
Speaker 1: So a very serious point. They're talking about the attack
26:27
Speaker 1: on this nation to break it apart and the means
26:31
Speaker 1: of doing that, the regionalization and devolution on top of that.
26:36
Speaker 1: So this is a very serious position. But Robin Tilbrook
26:41
Speaker 1: had also said something I found very interesting on the
26:44
Speaker 1: party website. Let's have a look he said this. Now
26:47
Speaker 1: he's speaking back in March of this year. Tommy Robinson
26:51
Speaker 1: is pushing the idea of another United Kingdom event in
26:54
Speaker 1: a few weeks time. This is an event that people
26:57
Speaker 1: who attend it will feel good about it. It will
27:00
Speaker 1: achieve absolutely nothing politically. It will have cost probably an
27:05
Speaker 1: average of one hundred pounds for every person who attends
27:08
Speaker 1: it in terms of transport costs, in terms of food,
27:11
Speaker 1: drink and lost earnings. For some people it will cost more.
27:15
Speaker 1: For some people it will cost less, but I'm going
27:18
Speaker 1: for an average figure. If Tommy Robinson manages his target
27:22
Speaker 1: to get a million people to go to his event,
27:25
Speaker 1: that will therefore be one hundred million spent on event
27:29
Speaker 1: which achieves absolutely nothing for any cause whatsoever, far from
27:34
Speaker 1: possibly filling the pockets of some of the organizers, something
27:38
Speaker 1: that I've had many people suggest to me. Now, we
27:41
Speaker 1: haven't got time to deal this further. We will in
27:44
Speaker 1: Extra UK column Extra following the news. But essentially he's
27:48
Speaker 1: making a really good point that people can make a
27:51
Speaker 1: huge difference if they think about what they're doing, what
27:55
Speaker 1: they're supporting, and why they're doing it, and if they
27:58
Speaker 1: find money for the right challenge to what is actually
28:02
Speaker 1: happening in this country. So a provocative comment maybe, but
28:07
Speaker 1: it's absolutely on the money. One hundred pounds in this case,
28:11
Speaker 1: and of course if one hundred million was put into
28:14
Speaker 1: the small Party arena, politics could be changed.
28:18
Speaker 2: Just a thought buy some farm land that would be
28:20
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28:23
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28:50
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28:54
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28:59
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30:07
Speaker 1: Now tonight, excuse me, at nine pm, we've got Silk
30:11
Speaker 1: and Steel. Has China already won the tech race? This
30:15
Speaker 1: will be an interesting discussion because it's apparent to everybody,
30:19
Speaker 1: I think, worldwide, the power base that China has become
30:23
Speaker 1: despite the alienation from the West and sanctions of aligned
30:30
Speaker 1: countries around the world. Now we've also got excuse me,
30:35
Speaker 1: jerm Warfare at seven pm tonight on the subject to
30:39
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30:43
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30:50
Speaker 2: Ben.
30:51
Speaker 1: We are to be worried, fearful, anxious as there's a
30:55
Speaker 1: national emergency.
30:57
Speaker 2: There is a national emergency, Brian, another one, so many
31:02
Speaker 2: and this has been bubbling for a little while and
31:04
Speaker 2: I think this is good. This is about to reach
31:07
Speaker 2: mainstream consciousness in quite an extraordinary fashion. And referring to
31:11
Speaker 2: this event which took place back in November, we reported
31:16
Speaker 2: on it at the time. The National Emergency Briefing took
31:19
Speaker 2: place in Westminster Hall, presented essentially as some kind of
31:22
Speaker 2: organic grassroots effort to flag up to the political classes
31:29
Speaker 2: the dangers presented by the climate crisis. And it's been
31:33
Speaker 2: running since then for the past six months, gaining national traction.
31:38
Speaker 2: And let's just have a little watch of a short
31:41
Speaker 2: clip here to remind us of what it's all about.
31:48
Speaker 5: The climate we live in today is the least extreme
31:51
Speaker 5: climate we will experience in our lifetimes.
31:54
Speaker 11: That's a shocker.
31:57
Speaker 13: In November of last year, I joined some of the
31:59
Speaker 13: UK top scientists to bring MPs up to date on
32:02
Speaker 13: all aspects of the climate and nature crisis, on our weather,
32:07
Speaker 13: our food supply, our health, our national security.
32:10
Speaker 2: Europe's been hit again and again by severe flood those
32:14
Speaker 2: narrow streets. You can see that happening in London or
32:17
Speaker 2: another city here.
32:20
Speaker 4: This is what happens when food systems fail.
32:23
Speaker 3: I honestly don't think people realize how immediate this is
32:28
Speaker 3: going to be.
32:31
Speaker 6: The climate crisis is now a threat to national security,
32:34
Speaker 6: but what we need to do on climate also makes
32:37
Speaker 6: Britain safer.
32:38
Speaker 2: This is like a today issue, not tomorrow.
32:43
Speaker 5: None of this is impossible, and the roads on the
32:46
Speaker 5: other side are enormous.
32:48
Speaker 3: There is the potential for great change and for things
32:50
Speaker 3: to be better.
32:52
Speaker 13: Spread the word. Invite your friends and neighbors to go
32:55
Speaker 13: to a screening.
32:56
Speaker 3: And I make sure that everybody and every school, every
33:00
Speaker 3: place of work had to sit down and listen to this.
33:06
Speaker 1: So every school, every school, school, every young children's.
33:12
Speaker 2: Minds absolutely yes, because Lady off the tele says, so
33:16
Speaker 2: we must do it. And it's easy to laugh at
33:20
Speaker 2: this stuff, to be honest with you, because that slightly ludicrous.
33:22
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, it's massively overdone, this idea
33:26
Speaker 2: that we should just be terrified of everything constantly, and
33:29
Speaker 2: there has been quite a lot of discussion of late,
33:31
Speaker 2: not least in like the Hanta virus situation. Do you
33:34
Speaker 2: remember that We actually I think we managed to see
33:36
Speaker 2: that in fairly short order because you haven't heard about
33:38
Speaker 2: it in a few weeks. But I think the next
33:41
Speaker 2: supposed crisis is going to come on the climate front,
33:44
Speaker 2: and it's probably going to come in this country. From
33:47
Speaker 2: this organization, the National Emergency Briefing they'd add by Chris
33:51
Speaker 2: Packham CBE, they're already active around the countries we talked about.
33:57
Speaker 2: You saw their calls for this to be shown in
33:59
Speaker 2: every every school, every church hall. They're actually doing a
34:04
Speaker 2: pretty good job of that, to be honest with you.
34:06
Speaker 2: This is a map from their website. You can see
34:08
Speaker 2: that they're being seen all around the UK. And actually
34:12
Speaker 2: I've come across this in the wild myself, so I
34:14
Speaker 2: was sent this one. Actually this was down in Cornwall,
34:17
Speaker 2: I believe, Chumney and Lankey. So this is a sustainable
34:21
Speaker 2: Chumney event for the People's Emergency Briefing. Is two images
34:26
Speaker 2: I took myself. The one on the left there that
34:28
Speaker 2: is at the Topnest Cinema, So I took that last
34:31
Speaker 2: weekend and then this weekend I saw this in Ashburton.
34:34
Speaker 2: This is just in someone's window. So you know there's
34:37
Speaker 2: certainly a sense that they're getting traction.
34:41
Speaker 1: Money.
34:41
Speaker 2: Ben Well, this is the thing, right because it's presented
34:45
Speaker 2: and they use this terminology the People's Emergency briefing. This
34:48
Speaker 2: is all from the people's is all, as I was saying,
34:50
Speaker 2: like an organic upswell of concern from the British public.
34:55
Speaker 2: But actually when you look at it, it's fully backed
34:58
Speaker 2: by the establishment. Chris Pack himself has got a CBE
35:01
Speaker 2: for a start, right, that's before you get into all
35:03
Speaker 2: the other people from the BBC and various other places
35:05
Speaker 2: that are involved in this. But it's backed by the
35:08
Speaker 2: National Trust, the RSPB, the Climate Reality Project at the
35:14
Speaker 2: bottom there, which is our gruls vehicle for pushing his
35:17
Speaker 2: climate agenda.
35:18
Speaker 14: Right.
35:18
Speaker 2: So the idea that this is from the people is
35:22
Speaker 2: simply ludicrous. This is the establishment doing a very good job, frankly,
35:26
Speaker 2: of convincing people that this is coming up from the grassroots,
35:31
Speaker 2: but absolutely is not. The other thing that I've noticed
35:35
Speaker 2: is extremely emotionally manipulative and actually one of the events
35:41
Speaker 2: running in parallel to this was this one which is
35:43
Speaker 2: from the Climate Psychology Alliance Climate Psychology for the National
35:47
Speaker 2: Emergency briefing people's emergency briefing facilitators essentially to helping people
35:53
Speaker 2: to hear, process and discuss difficot information to build Brazilian
35:57
Speaker 2: and adaptive communities. So this is venturing into the kind
36:01
Speaker 2: of NLP territory. This is common purpose type stuff.
36:04
Speaker 1: Well, this is behavioral insights. This is ramp up the
36:08
Speaker 1: fear factor to make people easier to control and easier
36:12
Speaker 1: to frame in what they believe.
36:15
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, and frankly, very little of it to do
36:18
Speaker 2: with any kind of hard science, as far as I
36:20
Speaker 2: can tell, a lot of the messaging, even coming down
36:23
Speaker 2: from the very very top levels of the establishment, very
36:26
Speaker 2: much focuses on this kind of emotional dynamic to things.
36:29
Speaker 2: As we can hear now from Emma Pinchbeck, who is
36:32
Speaker 2: the chief executive of the Climate Change Committee.
36:36
Speaker 14: Heat is already the UK's deadliest climate related risk. Imagine
36:41
Speaker 14: being a nurse and full ppe working in forty degree heat.
36:46
Speaker 14: Imagine laying bricks at the hottest time of the day
36:49
Speaker 14: with no protection outdoors. Imagine being a firefighter sent to
36:54
Speaker 14: fight a wildfire without the right protective equipment. This is
36:59
Speaker 14: not the future. This is happening now, and as we
37:03
Speaker 14: move towards twenty fifty, it will be common for summers
37:06
Speaker 14: to experience forty three degrees of heat in the UK.
37:11
Speaker 14: That is why we are calling on government to set
37:14
Speaker 14: a national maximum temperature for workers. This is a simple
37:18
Speaker 14: protective measure to help protect the people and places we love.
37:26
Speaker 2: Emotional manipulation, imagine this. Imagine that for three degrees forty three.
37:33
Speaker 2: Never even been close to that. But anyway, you've got
37:36
Speaker 2: to worry about the nurse, worry about the brick layer,
37:38
Speaker 2: worry about the firefighter. Imagine what it would be like
37:40
Speaker 2: if you imagine if it was you, Brian. You've want
37:44
Speaker 2: someone looking out for your interest, wouldn't you. So this
37:47
Speaker 2: is you can't look after yourself. The nanny's state to
37:51
Speaker 2: this group of individuals has got to look after us,
37:53
Speaker 2: absolutely absolutely, and pay more tax will reduce the temperature
37:57
Speaker 2: as well. That's another thing you've got to remember. And
37:59
Speaker 2: this is this is driving towards there's something coming out
38:02
Speaker 2: the back of this. Yeah. I don't know exactly the
38:04
Speaker 2: time scales, but certainly I think in the next sort
38:06
Speaker 2: of three month six months there is going to be
38:08
Speaker 2: a concerted effort by this organization to have a coordinated
38:14
Speaker 2: takeover of the national broadcaster, the main media channels, the
38:20
Speaker 2: full debate in Parliament, Starmo, if you're still Prime Minister
38:23
Speaker 2: lining up behind this in order to take what is
38:26
Speaker 2: essentially a kind of wartime or should we say COVID
38:30
Speaker 2: type approach to bullying the country into accepting a highly controversial,
38:38
Speaker 2: supposed scientific consensus in order to deliver a series of
38:44
Speaker 2: outcomes that ultimately are about increasing the power of the
38:47
Speaker 2: state and delivering trillions of profits to international investors. Because
38:51
Speaker 2: that's basically what climate change is all about.
38:54
Speaker 1: Yep, serious stuff that's happening in UK. Now, this is
38:58
Speaker 1: the real politics of what's going on and it requires
39:02
Speaker 1: a lot of people to understand it and to spread
39:04
Speaker 1: the word. Now people are standing up, just like the
39:08
Speaker 1: focus in again on the No to CCTV group who
39:14
Speaker 1: have been active. They were up at protest in Glasgow
39:19
Speaker 1: over the weekend. Let's have a listen to what they
39:23
Speaker 1: had to say.
39:26
Speaker 15: So here we are in Glasgow. This is the second
39:29
Speaker 15: of a series of protests that we've been holding around
39:33
Speaker 15: Britain in different places to highlight what's happening with CCTV
39:37
Speaker 15: and the changes that taking place very rapidly in our society.
39:41
Speaker 15: So the first was in Newcastle where the systems moved
39:45
Speaker 15: from mainly camera surveillance to a predominantly electronic surveillance. Here
39:50
Speaker 15: in Glasgow, it's kind of like the first of the
39:53
Speaker 15: worst camera surveillance. This system in twenty twelve had first
39:59
Speaker 15: to introduce space recognition and there are forty nine thousand
40:04
Speaker 15: cameras in Glasgow in networked in one public system. So
40:10
Speaker 15: in the past years, between twenty twenty one and twenty
40:14
Speaker 15: twenty three, suddenly twelve new camera networks appeared in Scotland,
40:20
Speaker 15: including places like Edinburgh, five towns Aberdeen, Tayside, huge new
40:28
Speaker 15: control rooms controlling large areas, bringing huge networks of cameras together.
40:33
Speaker 15: These things can be assembled really fast. Things change. Now
40:38
Speaker 15: Scotland actually has better laws protection of privacy than in England.
40:43
Speaker 15: England really at the minute doesn't have any laws at all.
40:47
Speaker 15: New laws are going to be introduced this year, but
40:49
Speaker 15: we don't know what they're like yet. Unfortunately, it looks
40:53
Speaker 15: like they're going to allow all sorts of things that
40:55
Speaker 15: would never be allowed in Scotland, like tracking of individuals
41:00
Speaker 15: and a series of nineteen eighty four provisions, you know,
41:05
Speaker 15: more Chinese style than anything that would be allowed in Scotland.
41:09
Speaker 15: So the protections in Scotland, how durable are they? Will
41:14
Speaker 15: they still be here in ten years time. Well, we've
41:17
Speaker 15: seen that when the COVID lockdown happened, all the protections
41:21
Speaker 15: that we thought were in place were easily brushed aside.
41:24
Speaker 15: Nobody should be complacent. Things are changing really fast. The
41:29
Speaker 15: Home Secretary has announced that she wants to build a panopticon.
41:33
Speaker 15: That's her ambition to build a panopticon. When the eyes
41:36
Speaker 15: of the state are upon us at all times, we
41:39
Speaker 15: should be really worried about what's happened.
41:44
Speaker 1: So I've found that very powerful clip. Nathan Allen be
41:47
Speaker 1: there clearly, very very well informed in his subjects. He's
41:51
Speaker 1: talking in a quiet, reasonable way. People do engage with
41:54
Speaker 1: this and this really is indicative of what could be
41:59
Speaker 1: happening across the country if properly motivated people were standing
42:03
Speaker 1: up to be involved and to actually challenge as an activist,
42:07
Speaker 1: but in this calm, informed and very measured way. Now,
42:12
Speaker 1: if you go to the node CCTV dot or dot
42:15
Speaker 1: UK website, you will see that immediately on the website
42:20
Speaker 1: they're saying what people can do contact MPs, attend local
42:24
Speaker 1: council meetings, write letters to the local media, support activities
42:30
Speaker 1: by the group, or get involved with an existing campaign,
42:33
Speaker 1: or even start your own campaign. And again a good
42:38
Speaker 1: thing for this website. I know there are many websites
42:42
Speaker 1: doing exactly this, but filling the website full of resources
42:46
Speaker 1: so that people can learn what they're up against now
42:50
Speaker 1: are just going to end by this statement by Nathan.
42:52
Speaker 1: He says it's a very slow process to get people
42:56
Speaker 1: up and engage, taking part themselves rather than just watching.
43:00
Speaker 1: And of course he's absolutely hitting the nail on the
43:04
Speaker 1: head there. The big problem is to get people not
43:06
Speaker 1: to watch and view what's happening, but to say I'm
43:10
Speaker 1: going to stand up and do something and join together
43:14
Speaker 1: with other people. It's numbers that count. And if we
43:17
Speaker 1: reflect on that comment by Robin Tilbrook that of course
43:21
Speaker 1: when large numbers of people come together and pull resources,
43:26
Speaker 1: they produce funds which can literally move mountains. So I
43:31
Speaker 1: wanted to include a positive part to today's news with
43:35
Speaker 1: people who are out there and challenging a very serious subject,
43:39
Speaker 1: in this case the rise of the surveillance state. Ben
43:45
Speaker 1: over to you.
43:46
Speaker 2: Thanks Brian. It's going to have a little look at
43:49
Speaker 2: where a lot of these policy is coming from, particularly
43:51
Speaker 2: the rhetoric around the transformation of the state at the moment.
43:55
Speaker 2: I'm afraid to do this to people on a Monday,
43:57
Speaker 2: but I am going to bring Tony Blair into the mix.
44:01
Speaker 2: There is. He came out a couple of weeks ago
44:04
Speaker 2: talking about this idea that labor must return to the
44:07
Speaker 2: radical center to reverse Britain's decline. This was articling. The
44:15
Speaker 2: Independent received a variety of pieces of different media coverage. Actually,
44:21
Speaker 2: Cammy Badenot came out and said that the Tories apparently
44:25
Speaker 2: Tony Blair's only hope for delivering his agenda, which I
44:27
Speaker 2: thought was quite a remarkable thing. You know, when we
44:29
Speaker 2: talk about the uniparty, I think that's it right there,
44:32
Speaker 2: isn't it.
44:32
Speaker 1: Absolutely yes, Tony Blair, the arch en I mean, come
44:36
Speaker 1: and join our club.
44:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll see how that develops. But all of
44:42
Speaker 2: it related to this article which was published on the
44:45
Speaker 2: Blair Institute website, the Labor Parties playing with fire over
44:50
Speaker 2: its future in the future of the country five and
44:52
Speaker 2: a half thousand words, A very long winded way of
44:55
Speaker 2: Tony Blair saying that it is indeed he who is
44:59
Speaker 2: the future of Labor Party as it has always been,
45:02
Speaker 2: and you can go and have a look at it.
45:04
Speaker 2: It's quite good read. Actually a few things have jumped
45:07
Speaker 2: out at me. The first one is this statement. The
45:09
Speaker 2: challenge of democracy is not transparency, honesty or conspiracy theories
45:14
Speaker 2: about the hidden powers of elites. It is efficacy. It's
45:17
Speaker 2: the ability to get big things done. Interesting choice of what.
45:20
Speaker 1: Don't worry about the fraud and corruption as long as
45:23
Speaker 1: we can get our gender through.
45:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, democracy, No conspiracy theories about the hidden power of elites.
45:31
Speaker 2: You know, maybe elites like yourself, Tony Blair. Anyway. He
45:35
Speaker 2: then goes on to say that the best political space
45:38
Speaker 2: from which this can be achieved is what I call
45:41
Speaker 2: the radical center, and the radical center is about delivering
45:46
Speaker 2: AI everything, planning reforms so they can build data centers everywhere,
45:50
Speaker 2: cheaper energy so that they can run their data centers
45:53
Speaker 2: public private partnerships. She's the technical definition of fascism. And
45:57
Speaker 2: that Blair knows full well, because I think he's been
46:00
Speaker 2: estimated that the PFI schemes that he brought in in
46:04
Speaker 2: his first and second terms have cost US three hundred
46:07
Speaker 2: billion for fifty billions worth of services. So these are
46:10
Speaker 2: extraordinarily bad deals for the taxpayer. He's still pushing them.
46:14
Speaker 2: And actually he also says more or less that he
46:16
Speaker 2: wants to kick out the entire existing workforce in the
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Speaker 2: government and bringing in an a new bunch of people.
46:21
Speaker 2: This is a really radical agenda that he wants to
46:24
Speaker 2: deliver from the radical center. But where does that come from?
46:28
Speaker 2: That term, because he says what I call the radical center.
46:32
Speaker 2: The thing is, I pay attention to these words when
46:36
Speaker 2: they enter the discourse, and the radical center actually came
46:38
Speaker 2: from this guy. And I reported on this but eighteen
46:42
Speaker 2: months ago. This is Daniel Sachs, a Swedish businessman who
46:45
Speaker 2: is also a top advisor at Chatham House Counselor and
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Speaker 2: Foreign Relations, as a young Global Leader of the World
46:50
Speaker 2: Economic Forum, and also the investment chief of the Open
46:53
Speaker 2: Society Foundation.
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Speaker 1: So there's nothing special in this.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.
46:58
Speaker 1: No, he's just an ordinary Swede.
47:00
Speaker 2: Just you don't need to worry about it, prime you know,
47:03
Speaker 2: you go go and pay attention to something else. But
47:07
Speaker 2: he was talking at this event, Global Progress Action in
47:11
Speaker 2: the end of twenty twenty four, and we'll provide a
47:12
Speaker 2: link and go and watch this Segment's twenty minutes, and
47:15
Speaker 2: it basically describes a new political paradigm that he envisions
47:21
Speaker 2: that is ultimately being briefed into Justin Trudeau, de cinder
47:25
Speaker 2: Arda and the whole kind of progressive liberal international establishment
47:30
Speaker 2: by Daniel Sachs. At this event back in twenty twenty four,
47:33
Speaker 2: he talks about this idea of a tug of war
47:34
Speaker 2: between two main drivers of political engagement. One is the
47:38
Speaker 2: rising support of authoritarianism. The other is the mobilization of
47:41
Speaker 2: young voters, especially young women, in protection of the fundamental
47:45
Speaker 2: values of democracy. And he calls for new ideas, new leaders,
47:49
Speaker 2: and the reaffirmation of the values of liberal democracy, which
47:52
Speaker 2: as I said at the time, basically means we can
47:55
Speaker 2: do whatever we want if enough people go along with it.
47:57
Speaker 2: And he presents this idea of radical sense as being
48:01
Speaker 2: the antidote to authoritarianism. But as I said in that piece,
48:05
Speaker 2: I actually think it's the opposite. I think radical centrism
48:08
Speaker 2: is authoritarianism. And what I said was happened at the
48:12
Speaker 2: time is that they're going to push us to the
48:14
Speaker 2: extremes on the left and the right, and then the
48:16
Speaker 2: institutions are going to drive towards the center, cut off
48:19
Speaker 2: the dissidents and then the mass population will be pulled
48:22
Speaker 2: into this new radical centrist paradigm. And that's basically what's
48:26
Speaker 2: been happening for the last year and a half.
48:28
Speaker 1: Exactly what's happening Benson. Yeah, So the counter to that
48:31
Speaker 1: is to keep people together and stop this antagonist, antagonistic
48:36
Speaker 1: divide being created. Yes, when people stand together, albeit with
48:41
Speaker 1: different viewpoints, that's inevitable they can challenge what is actually
48:48
Speaker 1: what's actually happening.
48:49
Speaker 2: It's the dissident voices on both the left and the
48:52
Speaker 2: right who between them have actually very similar concerns when
48:58
Speaker 2: you go and listen to what they're saying, but being
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Speaker 2: presented to each other as natural enemies, whereas actually then
49:04
Speaker 2: he's been coming together those radical dissident voices who are
49:07
Speaker 2: actually active in doing things, so they can coordinate and
49:10
Speaker 2: provide a different room forward. Otherwise people like Daniel Sacks
49:13
Speaker 2: is going to be calling the shots, People like Tony
49:15
Speaker 2: Blair are going to be calling the shots. And frankly,
49:17
Speaker 2: you know, I will I think that this messaging from
49:21
Speaker 2: Blair came directly from Daniel Sacks. So Blair is saying,
49:25
Speaker 2: I call it radical centrism. The entire paradigm has been
49:28
Speaker 2: disseminated down from Sachs via the Builderberg meetings, which is
49:33
Speaker 2: also linked into and all these other supranational completely unelected,
49:38
Speaker 2: totally opaque, unaccountable political bodies NGOs. And who's he going
49:44
Speaker 2: around the world hanging around with the top top leaders.
49:47
Speaker 2: So this is from just two weeks ago. So this
49:49
Speaker 2: is Sacks giving a little roundup of the first half
49:52
Speaker 2: of the year. Who's he there with? So that is
49:55
Speaker 2: Melanie Jolly, who's the Canadian Foreign Minister, Pete butter g
50:00
Speaker 2: and they're saying that or I don't know mayor Pete,
50:03
Speaker 2: that guy Tim Waltz who was Kamala Harris's running mate.
50:06
Speaker 2: So this is a saxon him at the Forward Together
50:09
Speaker 2: event in Barcelona, which I recorded on a couple of
50:12
Speaker 2: months ago. He go, big guns, sax and Obama, he go,
50:16
Speaker 2: see these people circulate with This is a fascinating picture.
50:20
Speaker 2: Look at the body language.
50:21
Speaker 1: Well, it's a bit like Blair with Zelenski and yeah
50:25
Speaker 1: and Macron and Mertz coming down a numbers they got
50:31
Speaker 1: a bit physical.
50:34
Speaker 2: Brian, what an awful thought. Can we just get that
50:36
Speaker 2: back on the screen quickly? This looks like a submission. Pose,
50:40
Speaker 2: Look at Carney. That's a really striking image. Yeah, Daniel
50:45
Speaker 2: Sachs on the left, there is absolutely dominating something.
50:49
Speaker 1: He's that he is in control of the gentleman over
50:54
Speaker 1: Carne's shoulder. There is clearly paying attention.
50:57
Speaker 2: To absolutely so, solating across the senior leadership for Global
51:03
Speaker 2: Progressive Progressivism. A bit of a long word for a
51:08
Speaker 2: Monday afternoon. And then who's putting sexist strings? Well, you know,
51:13
Speaker 2: Alex Soros, you.
51:15
Speaker 1: Know this is real what you are describing bent, this
51:18
Speaker 1: is real politics. Yes, these are the people driving their
51:23
Speaker 1: political agenda. Westminster is just the Punch and Judy shows.
51:28
Speaker 1: We've demonstrated if you want to talk politics in this country,
51:32
Speaker 1: you have to understand these organizations and immensely powerful unelected
51:38
Speaker 1: people who are now driving the agenda.
51:41
Speaker 2: Absolutely so, the Punch and Judy Show in Westminster is
51:45
Speaker 2: about creating intractable chaos so that this thing can just
51:49
Speaker 2: come sleeming through the center without any kind of pushback
51:53
Speaker 2: at all. We're not even pushback, just even awareness or
51:56
Speaker 2: understanding of what it is. It's extraordinary how they operating.
52:01
Speaker 1: Okay, And meanwhile, we want to make sure that what
52:03
Speaker 1: people can learn is controlled and I think that brings
52:06
Speaker 1: us onto offcom.
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Speaker 2: It certainly does well. You can't have people just saying
52:10
Speaker 2: what they want on the internet. Prime goodness me, what
52:15
Speaker 2: what would happen, you know if the information, the integrity
52:19
Speaker 2: of our information ecosystem was compromised in some way. And thankfully,
52:23
Speaker 2: I'm so happy to say we've got a new chair
52:25
Speaker 2: at Offcom, the Office of Communication. We might have missed
52:30
Speaker 2: swerved the bullet here though, because it was supposed to
52:32
Speaker 2: be Margaret Hodge. She was in the front running for
52:34
Speaker 2: this for quite some time. But actually it's not going
52:36
Speaker 2: to be Margaret Hold. It's going to be this guy,
52:38
Speaker 2: Sir Ian Cheshire, and we'll provide a link. Going to
52:42
Speaker 2: have a little reader the press release. But Liz Kendall,
52:45
Speaker 2: the Tech Secretary, said, Ian brings exactly the kind of
52:48
Speaker 2: leadership experience that OFFCOM needs as it enters this next
52:51
Speaker 2: critical chapter. The Online Safety Act must be enforced robustly
52:56
Speaker 2: and without compromise, and Offcom has a central role in
53:00
Speaker 2: making the UK the safest place to be online, and
53:02
Speaker 2: not just the UK, because as Mike was talking about
53:04
Speaker 2: on the news last week, offcom sits at the hub
53:07
Speaker 2: of what is essentially a global censorship network. So it's
53:11
Speaker 2: UK but also Five Eyes, but also the Commonwealth, and
53:15
Speaker 2: everything kind of extrapolates out from there. Now, Syrian said,
53:18
Speaker 2: if we can get that back on screen quickly, that
53:20
Speaker 2: he is honored and delighted to take on the chair
53:23
Speaker 2: of OFFCOM at his Viking time, and he's especially interested
53:26
Speaker 2: in the lived experience of our citizens. Great bit of
53:30
Speaker 2: neo communist terminology there, lived experience, and also seeing the
53:34
Speaker 2: data that allows us to measure the increase of our impacts.
53:37
Speaker 2: So you can imagine they've got these fancy dashboards going
53:40
Speaker 2: on in the background showing them how impactful their interventions
53:44
Speaker 2: in public discourse have been in shutting down certain ideas
53:47
Speaker 2: and social patterns. Extraordinary really when you think about it now,
53:51
Speaker 2: this is really important because Syrien Cheshire has not come
53:54
Speaker 2: out of nowhere. This is an absolute establishment character. And
53:58
Speaker 2: I spoke about him a few times at the last year,
54:00
Speaker 2: not least because of his relationship with this organization, which
54:04
Speaker 2: is the Forward Institute. And I positioned this at the time,
54:07
Speaker 2: and I stand by that positioning is essentially a new
54:10
Speaker 2: common Purpose type organization. I think I said that Common
54:14
Speaker 2: Purpose had run into too much critical analysis, not least
54:18
Speaker 2: from Brian over the years in the UK and had
54:21
Speaker 2: gone global and then the Forward Institute, and there's various
54:24
Speaker 2: other things like this, these leadership networks that have popped
54:26
Speaker 2: up to drive the transformation of British society into something
54:32
Speaker 2: that it is not and has never been and never
54:34
Speaker 2: should be. And they got fifteen hundred leaders all around
54:38
Speaker 2: the UK public, private, third sector. It's run by this guy.
54:42
Speaker 2: This is Adam Gridecki, who, amongst other things, was a
54:45
Speaker 2: global shaper of the World Economic Forum. Very interesting chap,
54:49
Speaker 2: definitely doing the Schwab agenda. Interestingly on their board of
54:53
Speaker 2: the Ford Institute is this guy Martin Hewitt, who was
54:55
Speaker 2: the chair of the National Police Chiefs Council who brought
54:58
Speaker 2: in the anti races and policies.
55:01
Speaker 1: So this is the whole point about following policy up
55:05
Speaker 1: the chain to find out where where it first came from.
55:08
Speaker 1: And won't it won't even be from him, It'll be
55:12
Speaker 1: from people who are surrounding him.
55:14
Speaker 2: But certainly so he was in the official position.
55:18
Speaker 1: And this is the thing that Nigel Farage never does
55:21
Speaker 1: the analysis to take it through where did this two
55:25
Speaker 1: tier policing come from? Who were the people that created it.
55:28
Speaker 1: He never goes there because you just stay on the
55:32
Speaker 1: froth as that that helps the angst and the division.
55:35
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, vociferously oppose something once it's already been implemented, correct,
55:41
Speaker 2: and they never actually get to the number where it
55:43
Speaker 2: came from, which is that guy might in Hewett. Let's
55:45
Speaker 2: get him back on screen. And Hewitt is a top
55:49
Speaker 2: advisor board member of Ford Institute, which is as I
55:51
Speaker 2: was talking about a moment, you go very closely linked
55:54
Speaker 2: to Syrian Cheshire and we found out. I already knew
55:57
Speaker 2: who he was because he was the chairman of King Fishing,
56:00
Speaker 2: It Zones B and Q and various other big retailers.
56:02
Speaker 2: But he's also the chair of Land Securities Group, one
56:05
Speaker 2: of the biggest property developers in the UK, the chair
56:08
Speaker 2: of Spire Healthcare, a top private health firm that actually
56:11
Speaker 2: does thirty percent of his UK revenues out of the NHS,
56:14
Speaker 2: so NHS privatization. He's also the chair of something called
56:17
Speaker 2: the We Mean Business Coalition, which is a global coming
56:20
Speaker 2: together of business leaders to drive the global energy transition
56:25
Speaker 2: and all the stuff that's climate related. He's also the
56:28
Speaker 2: chair of the Institute for Government, a lot of chair Positions,
56:31
Speaker 2: which is Lord Sainsbury's vehicle for transforming the civil service
56:34
Speaker 2: that we've talked about a lot. He was the chair
56:36
Speaker 2: of Channel four and also he's the chair of the
56:39
Speaker 2: King Charles the Third Charitable Fund, which is Charles the
56:43
Speaker 2: Third's main personal charitable vehicle for progressing his social and
56:48
Speaker 2: philanthropic agenda, which means that Ian Cheshire is very much
56:54
Speaker 2: in the mix with Charles, and Charles is very much
56:57
Speaker 2: as a consequence of that, directly to and interested in
57:01
Speaker 2: what isn't allowed to be said on the internet under
57:07
Speaker 2: threat of criminal prosecution.
57:10
Speaker 1: You naughty people, because who don't want people explaining what's happening,
57:14
Speaker 1: because that takes the lid off this agenda coming through
57:17
Speaker 1: very dangerous. Somebody in the chat boxes we're talking for
57:21
Speaker 1: Today's News saying they're having difficulty tracking remembering all the
57:26
Speaker 1: organizations that you're putting forward, Ben, and of course that
57:29
Speaker 1: is the agenda. There are so many of these non
57:32
Speaker 1: governmental organizations, charities and think tanks that the agenda appears confusing. However,
57:41
Speaker 1: there is a common thread, and we're going to keep
57:43
Speaker 1: trying to explain to people what the common thread is
57:46
Speaker 1: through these organizations. But if you say it's confusing. Yes,
57:50
Speaker 1: it is because it's supposed to be. Now we're going
57:53
Speaker 1: to end today with a little bit of positive activism
57:58
Speaker 1: and I'll just bring this one up. This is part
58:01
Speaker 1: of an email exchange that was sent through to me
58:04
Speaker 1: and essentially a lady Susan is saying, surely we can
58:10
Speaker 1: persuade more people to vote better. And the main part
58:14
Speaker 1: of the email was talking about election in Doncaster and
58:18
Speaker 1: she is saying that the candidate had a majority of
58:21
Speaker 1: nine thousand, one hundred and twenty six. Surely we can
58:25
Speaker 1: persuade nine thousand, two hundred more people out of the
58:30
Speaker 1: total pool of three hundred and eight thousand, one hundred
58:34
Speaker 1: and eight in Doncaster to vote better. So this is
58:37
Speaker 1: about looking at the majorities locally seeing how you can
58:41
Speaker 1: target people both in a positive and in an undermining
58:46
Speaker 1: way in order to counter what David Curtain from the
58:51
Speaker 1: Heritage Party clearly described as the manipulation of the political
58:56
Speaker 1: system to keep challenging minds and voters out of the
59:02
Speaker 1: single party state. So it is possible that people have
59:07
Speaker 1: to think and act in a carefully calculated way. And Susan,
59:12
Speaker 1: to a credit is suggesting one way that this can
59:16
Speaker 1: be done. Now there is a response to her email,
59:20
Speaker 1: and let's have a look at that response. This is
59:24
Speaker 1: from another Brian. He said, I'm a great believer in
59:28
Speaker 1: name and shame. One resident leafleting campaign urged complaints to
59:33
Speaker 1: go direct to the local cabinet member. This is presumably
59:37
Speaker 1: of a county council or a city council. His vote
59:42
Speaker 1: plummeted twenty seven percent. Now this is the reality of
59:47
Speaker 1: local people acting and if they act in a proper way,
59:52
Speaker 1: they're thinking about what they're doing and trying to achieve,
59:55
Speaker 1: they can have a result. So that is a really
1:00:00
Speaker 1: positive little statement there of why it's important for millions
1:00:04
Speaker 1: of people to stand up and challenge what's happening, and
1:00:07
Speaker 1: if you take the right actions, you can make a difference.
1:00:11
Speaker 1: Now we're just going to end, I think, with a
1:00:13
Speaker 1: little bit of a video here, which is the truth
1:00:17
Speaker 1: is so dangerous?
1:00:20
Speaker 2: It certainly is. Yes, So this links into the offcom segment.
1:00:23
Speaker 2: We were just talking about the Online Safety Act and
1:00:26
Speaker 2: the desires crackdown on free speech online. But we've also
1:00:30
Speaker 2: seen over the past few weeks a crescendo in the
1:00:34
Speaker 2: drive towards banning social media for those under sixteen years old,
1:00:39
Speaker 2: which is obviously presented as a way to protect children,
1:00:41
Speaker 2: but actually is very much about cracking down on descent.
1:00:44
Speaker 2: And I just wanted to remind everyone where that's come from,
1:00:47
Speaker 2: because actually the people spearheading that, or the Australian government,
1:00:50
Speaker 2: not least the E Safety Commissioner Julie Inman Grant, who
1:00:54
Speaker 2: had this to say at the World Economic Forum a
1:00:56
Speaker 2: couple of years ago.
1:00:59
Speaker 16: We are finding ourselves in a place where we have
1:01:03
Speaker 16: increasing polarization everywhere, and everything feels binary when it doesn't
1:01:08
Speaker 16: need to be.
1:01:09
Speaker 12: So I think we're going to have to think.
1:01:10
Speaker 16: About a recalibration of a whole range of human rights
1:01:13
Speaker 16: that are playing out online, you know, from freedom of
1:01:16
Speaker 16: spreech to the freedom to you know, to be free
1:01:19
Speaker 16: from online violence, or the right of data protection to
1:01:23
Speaker 16: the right to child dignity.
1:01:28
Speaker 2: That's reassuring, Yes, recalibration of human lights so that Julie
1:01:33
Speaker 2: Inman Grant doesn't have to be criticized.
1:01:37
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll end with and finally and the subjects is
1:01:41
Speaker 1: clear Starmer, I couldn't resist this one. A post from
1:01:45
Speaker 1: the man himself. He says, this government will not stand
1:01:48
Speaker 1: by will children have put it risk online. It doesn't
1:01:52
Speaker 1: matter if they're harmed offline, he's not going to do
1:01:55
Speaker 1: anything about that, but online you can trust Stormer. But
1:02:00
Speaker 1: one of the responses caught my eye. It was this one.
1:02:03
Speaker 1: So we've got a blind Starmer in the top image
1:02:07
Speaker 1: and the caption is pedophile rape gangs and we've got
1:02:10
Speaker 1: Starmer with a telescope looking at social media comments. My
1:02:16
Speaker 1: own comment was, it's the flaccid emperor who's clearly not
1:02:19
Speaker 1: got any clothes now at all. But we'd better end
1:02:24
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