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MINI SCROLL: Teachers vs. social media, Leaked Labs returns with refunds + Hallmark backlash over mahjong film · Mini Scroll

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  Coming up today on mini scroll Australian teachers versus the
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  Internet. Should teachers be quote UN
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  quote allowed to post publicly online?
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  More from the lipstick lesbians on the controversial launch of
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  Leech labs and social media users are calling out hallmark
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  for whitewashing its new film all's fair in love and mahjong.
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  yesterday I asked if you guys wanted me to cover the Emma
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  greed situation with her book tour and the sound bites coming
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  out of it, and a lot of you guys said yes.
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  However, one of you suggested that I do a mini deep dive into
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  Emigre and this whole situation. So I'm going to do that.
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  I will do it as Friday's episode.
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  And the reason being is that I am still reading her book.
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  So I figured, you know what that's actually like a good
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  idea. There's no deep dive this month.
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  There's no infinite scroll episode this month.
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  We just needed like a month, you know, like we needed a month
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  off. We needed like a little break
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  from the deep dives. So there's already no deep dive
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  this month. And because I'm still reading
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  the book, I thought that will give me the week to finish the
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  book and then I can bring you guys like a proper episode about
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  it. All right, let's just get into
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  the stories for today. So the first story that I have
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  for you guys today, there is a huge debate going on right now
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  mostly on the Australian side of social media, but it's
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  definitely extended beyond that as well over if teachers should
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  be allowed to have public social media accounts.
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  So this debate started after Australian mega influencer Abby
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  Chatfield made a video criticizing Haley back and
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  shared her opinion that teachers should not have a public social
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  media accounts. Now, two things that I want to
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  note here. First one is that this is the
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  extent of what I'm going to cover in terms of Abby's
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  involvement in the story. I know there's a lot of people
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  fighting over like the semantics of what she said versus what she
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  actually meant and all of that kind of stuff.
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  And in my opinion, that's not the point here anyways.
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  She's getting a lot of backlash for this and I don't want to
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  contribute to that. And 2nd, I have purposely
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  avoided talking about the Haley Beck situation for a few
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  reasons, but obviously to understand the context of this
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  story, I need to share. So Haley Beck is the 27 year old
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  sister of TikTok star Noah Beck. She worked as a psychology and
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  sociology high school teacher in Arizona and has been accused by
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  the school board of grooming one of her students before he turned
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  18. This is directly from e-news
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  Quote. In addition to adding the
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  student on Snapchat under the name Sneaky Link, she allegedly
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  exchanged more than 4000 texts with him over the summer of
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  2025, including messages about quote, oral sex, meeting up to
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  have sex, drinking alcohol, smoking weed, and about the
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  student, filming Haley provides, getting him oral sex and showing
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  it to her other students. According to the school's
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  statement of charges, Haley, who allegedly called herself a sugar
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  Mama and him a sugar baby, sent him a total of $630 on Apple
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  Pay, including one transaction allegedly captioned.
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  This money exchange just felt like straight prostitution.
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  Per the document, she is also accused of retaliation against
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  the boy's girlfriend, allegedly telling the girl that she
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  wouldn't date him if she was her.
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  OK, so the Superintendent obviously suggested dismissal
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  and the board adopted a quote statement of charges against her
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  thus far. So, since social media was so
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  heavily involved in this situation, it sparked a lot of
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  discussion online right now about whether it's appropriate
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  for teachers to have public social media accounts.
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  And as we know, teachers having social media accounts and
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  building followings for themselves has become more and
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  more common since TikTok exploded.
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  There's countless creators on TikTok sharing the behind the
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  scenes of what it's like to be a teacher, their day in the life
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  content. Sometimes they're recording in
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  the classroom, they're showing their full face using their
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  government name. Sometimes you can even hear the
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  children in the background or like they're speaking back to
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  them. You can't always see the kids.
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  I would say most of the time you can't see the children, but you
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  can usually see the classroom and sometimes hear them and
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  stuff like that. Those who are against teachers
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  having public social media platforms, they feel like it's a
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  security and safety concern for both the teacher and the
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  children. Even if the teacher doesn't
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  share the students in their content, which I think we can
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  probably all agree if they are doing that, that is very wrong.
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  But knowing so many identifiable elements of these creators, like
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  their names, sometimes their location, and even being able to
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  like see their classroom and all of that kind of stuff.
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  Like you would never know As your platform grows, like the
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  more and more parasocial weirdos that are like going to come out
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  of the woodwork and that puts you at risk because they might
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  easily find out where you work. And that obviously also puts the
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  children at risk and then those who are for this type of
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  content. One of the main arguments here
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  is that teachers don't make enough money, so they should be
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  allowed to build a side hustle as a content creator just like a
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  lot of other people. My first point, because I'm
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  going to give you a couple of points of why I think like this.
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  The world has changed, honey, the world has changed, OK?
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  Kids are having so much access to things that I, I'm an adult.
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  I'm having access to it and I'm like, wow, this is a bit much.
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  And they're having access to it. They're watching the same things
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  as me. They come to school and they
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  tell me the things I've watched. I'm like all guys, I don't want
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  to hear about it. Please do not tell me this is
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  inappropriate. I don't want to talk about it.
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  But this is something they're bringing to me.
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  They're seeing it as I'm seeing it OK and everything that I post
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  personally, these things they already know about me.
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  I don't see why having a personal life makes you less
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  professional. Now, if you are a grown adult
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  and you've been on this platform and you've been on the Internet
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  and you've seen a lot of situations, you should have
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  enough cognitive capacity to get enough social cues about what
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  Abby was saying in her video to be like, I should probably not
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  take that literally. I should probably not take what
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  she said about people having social media literally and just,
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  and then use that one point that she made to ignore everything
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  else she said in the video. And that's why I come in.
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  I want to fill in the blanks about the rest of the video
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  because I'm, I may not be a teacher and I may not be Abby
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  Chatfield, but I am nooks who is a youth worker, well qualified
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  youth worker. I don't work in that space
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  anymore, but I definitely am qualified to speak in that space
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  as someone who's working for a lot of young people.
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  Youth workers, just like teachers, just like doctors,
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  nurses, mentors, coaches and sports.
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  We all have a position of power now we we are in positions of
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  power to young people. We have a role as responsible
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  adults to teach young people how to be safe and how to make not
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  the right decision, but to be empowered to make their own
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  decisions so they can improve the quality of life in teaching.
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  You as a teacher, you're in a position of power because
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  children trust you. Children believe you.
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  Teaches recording in classrooms, recording in spaces where
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  there's a lot of young people, young people who they might not
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  know, could be refugees, could be victims of domestic violence,
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  could be people running away from home, could be young people
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  that in youth crisis accommodation, right?
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  A young person through mental health crisis situation, whether
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  it be with themselves or with their family members or with
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  their parents or whatever, you might not know that as teachers,
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  people going, oh, but teachers should have social media.
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  We're not saying you shouldn't have social media.
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  But what we're saying is when you have those powers, because
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  you are in a position of power, you lose a bit of individuality,
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  You lose a little bit of privacy because you trade that for being
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  in a position of power. And that's what people don't get
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  me. When I was doing youth work as a
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  youth worker, I had to change a lot of things.
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  Now, I will say, I've been following this debate over the
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  past couple of days and I've seen nobody saying think that
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  teachers should not have social media, full stop.
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  I know that's something that people believe.
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  Abby Chatfield said initially. She has since come out and
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  corrected what she meant by that.
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  The opinions are more based around if teachers should have
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  public social media accounts and if they do have public ones, if
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  being a teacher should be allowed to like be part of their
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  online brand. I also understand that teachers
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  don't want to hear any takes or opinions about like their
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  career, their job, from people who have never done their job
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  before, especially from people who maybe are privileged in
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  terms of like their career opportunities, their financial
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  opportunities, and also people who don't have children.
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  Like I can imagine that hearing opinions from the wider Internet
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  and influencers and people that don't have any skin in the game
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  because maybe they don't have kids yet, like all this kind of
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  stuff. I get that.
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  That would be so annoying. That would be so frustrating
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  that everybody feels like they can have an opinion on like what
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  you are doing and like your career.
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  I will say this argument is definitely not unique to
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  teachers. There's so many professions that
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  you would get fired from if you were recording in the office or
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  sharing details about your job. Especially because a lot of jobs
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  also don't let you generate other income while you are on
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  company time and like using their resources.
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  Like somebody on Reddit explained it like writing a book
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  during your 9 to 5 on your company laptop.
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  Like you could argue that teachers who are doing like
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  influencer content around being a teacher, if they're in their
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  classrooms, if they're using school resources, location, IP,
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  all that kind of stuff. Like it's similar to that
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  comparison. I think these are meaningful
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  discussions to have. So many people, not just
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  teachers, are blowing up and building these like very
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  lucrative and exciting side hustles off of sharing what it's
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  like to like work in their profession and sharing
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  professional advice on TikTok and things like that.
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  So I do think it's a very fine line when you are using social
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  media to build your career if you're not like self-employed or
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  whatever, I guess even if you are self-employed, but you know,
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  like when you do have an employer, it can be a bit
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  different. It can be a bit like trickier.
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  But I would say it's an important conversation to have
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  and it's also not exclusive to the teaching profession.
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  Let me know what you guys think, if you think teachers should be
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  allowed to have like public social media or where you fall
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  in this debate. I think 100% teacher should be
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  allowed to have public social media.
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  I do think it gets a little bit dicey if they are using teaching
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  as like a corner stone of their public social media profile, you
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  know, as something that is like attracting followers.
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  But I don't think that means every single teacher should have
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  to have like a private Instagram account.
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  OK, the next story that I have for you guys today is the
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  Lipstick Lesbians are offering to issue refunds to unhappy
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  customers. So it seems the Lipstick
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  Lesbians are taking feedback on board from their first launch
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  under their makeup brand Leaked Labs.
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  I fear you guys don't need me to reiterate what the problem with
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  Leaked Labs was and if you do or if you don't remember or you
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  need a refresher, the most recent update that I did about
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  two weeks ago, I think it was about Leaked Labs.
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  I did like a full recap breakdown.
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  So go listen to that episode. I think it was 2 weeks ago.
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  So now when half of the Lipstick Lesbians Alexis is back and
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  addressing everything and she is letting their followers know
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  what the future of the brand could look like.
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  So in this new video, she essentially says that they took
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  some time off to absorb the feedback and decide, I guess
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  what they were going to do with it and how to make some changes.
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  She also clarified that there are two types of product
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  launches that Leaked Labs plans to do, Which I thought was
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  interesting because I don't even know if I was like fully across
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  this. The first are products that are
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  discovered like flexi powder, which was their first launch.
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  So these are products that were developed for another brand.
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  They didn't make the cut for whatever reason, and the
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  lipstick lesbians are taking them and launching them anyways
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  to see what customers think. And then the second type is
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  products that were developed by the lipstick lesbians themselves
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  for Leaked Labs, which is what they say their next launch will
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  be. The creators are also currently
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  filming a docu series about this experience, and Alexis says that
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  will still go ahead. But the most interesting thing
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  about all of this is she ends the video by saying we never
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  want anyone to feel unhappy with the products that we're putting
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  out. So if you want a full refund,
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  contact us down below. In my opinion, that is a very
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  good way to make this right. Did they need to issue a refund?
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  I'm not sure. But I know because they are so
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  visible and it's people fronting the brand, you know, it's not
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  like just a nameless brand owned by some other conglomerate.
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  Like we obviously have that kind of parasocial relationship with
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  them. I think this is a very good idea
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  to do. I'm sure it's going to cost them
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  a lot of money, but I think it's a very wise decision in terms of
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  PR and like making it right with their followers.
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  OK. And the last story that I have
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  for you guys today is the Hallmark Channel is facing
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  backlash on social media after revealing its new romantic
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  comedy, All's Fair and Love and Mahjong because the main cast
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  are almost all white actors. And that is obviously deeply
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  unwell because the movie centers on mahjong, a game with deep
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  roots in Chinese culture. This is directly from National
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  Geographic quote. Mahjong was developed in
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  southern China in the mid 1800s toward the end of the King
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  Dynasty, one of the many male dominated gambling games that
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  emerged at the time. The word mahjong means Sparrow
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  in southern Chinese dialects, referring to the bird like
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  clacking sound the tiles make during reshuffling.
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  Well that's really cute. It's widely believed to be
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  derived from the ancient Chinese card game Madiao.
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  In the early 1920s, American businessman Joseph P Babcock
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  brought the game to the US, where became a quote enormous
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  national fad that reflected the country's shifting gender and
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  cultural norms. Of course, I'm a random
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  businessman named Joseph brought it to the US.
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  The film is set to debut on May 9th, and it stars Fiona
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  Gobelman, Paul Campbell, Yankee Kristolo who is of half Chinese
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  descent, Tamara Mowry and Melissa Peterman.
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  It follows a school nurse who turns her enthusiasm for mahjong
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  song into a fresh opportunity which blossoms into romance.
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  And lots of people on social media are questioning why a
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  predominantly white cast was chosen for the film, especially
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  because it is releasing during Asian American and Pacific
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  Islander Heritage month. So let me read you this post
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  from Diaprada. For a movie centered around
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  mahjong, people are side eyeing the casting choices.
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  The poster shows a mostly white cast with just one Asian actor,
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  Yankee Crystal Low, who is of Chinese Scottish descent.
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  Meanwhile, the mahjong tiles featured on the poster are from
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  the Films branded set, which Hallmark plans to sell on its
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  website through a collab with Miss Mahjong.
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  The Kansas based game company says it was founded by a trio of
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  mahjong obsessed friends and neighbors named Anne Marie
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  Morgan and Betsy. Although the founders don't
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  share additional details, the optics are giving the same
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  energy as the whitewashed mahjong brands.
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  We previously called out Oh my Mahjong just three weeks ago and
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  the mahjong line back in 2021. I remember the 2021 situation.
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  So one of the pinned comments on the Diaprada post is from user
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  JTCF 1981, who wrote I'm just so exhausted from all of this.
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  We're not liked when there's a crisis that originates from
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  quote UN quote, Asia, the giant monolith.
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  And then when we're liked, our collective cultures are
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  exploited, appropriated and sold without any consultation in the
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  laziest, tackiest and inauthentic way possible, and
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  then made out to be some sort of grand old wisdom or philosophy.
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  Just stop. Include us.
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  We speak English. We also speak and read the
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  languages that you seem to be too lazy to translate on the
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  mahjong tiles slash fear your audiences will be turned away
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  from on the tiles because it's considered too foreign.
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  Our culture is not your cosplay. And here are some takes from
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  TikTok. So this was the first thing that
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  popped up on my feed this morning and it's even suggested
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  for me and I wonder why it is so clear what is wrong with this
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  picture? And I feel like maybe it's just
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  probably rage bait at this point.
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  I'm sure there are people who are going to look at this,
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  including a lot of Asian people who are going to say, oh, isn't
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  it so great that more people are going to learn about mahjong
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  this way and we get to share our culture and that will be so good
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  for us as an Asian community. Thing is, we know that broader
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  acceptance of Asian culture is not to our benefit.
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  We're not going to be the ones benefiting from that.
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  Take a closer look at who exactly was tagged in this
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  particular post. So the Miss Mahjong official,
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  OK, who is that? Let's check them out.
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  Oh it's these 3 white women. Fascinating.
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  I hear every week basically about small Asian owned mom and
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  pop shops going out of business, Chinese newspapers going out of
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  business, China towns being gentrified.
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  But sure, let's keep supporting things like this in the name of
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  getting Asian culture out there so that white people can just
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  profit off of our culture. You've got to be fucking kidding
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  me. You people have officially lost
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  the damn pot. Y'all want to be a so bad but
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  don't want to give us credit with not a single Asian person
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  insight. This is embarrassing and to
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  really sit in May during AAPI heritage month.
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  You have us all fucked up and up in arms about this Hallmark.
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  Hallmark homework. Now, as Die Prada said in their
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  caption, this is definitely not the first time that mahjong has
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  been Co opted by white people. Recently in 2021, a Dallas based
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  company called The Mahjong Line reported reportedly led by three
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  white women, received pushback online after redesigning and
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  selling the game. The company was accused of both
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  cultural appropriation and gentrifying mahjong after
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  redesigning the tiles and billing the sets as Not Your
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  Mama's Mahjong. As Business Insider reported at
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  the time quote, many of the statements in the company's
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  marketing copy suggested that the original game design with
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  Chinese symbols is not suitable for what it termed the stylish
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  masses. Many people were quick to
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  describe this whole situation as extremely ignorant and
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  disrespectful. Of course, diet product
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  included. And in the piece for Business
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  Insider, the Mahjong line did issue a statement.
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  They said quote. The Mahjong line released a
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  statement to Insider apologizing for quote, our failure to pay
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  proper homage to the game's Chinese heritage using words
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  like refresh. We're hurtful to many and we are
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  deeply sorry. You want to know something crazy
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  though, guys? When I was researching the
• 19:59
  history of mahjong for this story, I just like typed into
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  Google history of mahjong and the mahjong lines website was
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  literally like #2 search results on it.
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  And I was like. I don't think that this is a
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  Chinese owned website. Like there was just something
• 20:15
  about it that I was like, I feel like I should not get my source
• 20:18
  from here. It was like #2 on like the
• 20:20
  history of the game, at least for my search results.
• 20:24
  I don't even know how Google search works anymore with AI, so
• 20:27
  I don't know if that's like valid, but it was really
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  shocking to me when I realized the tie there.
• 20:31
  I was like wait that is how I know this website because they
• 20:35
  were selling the game and it was 3 white women selling this game
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  and I think we covered their backlash.
• 20:40
  I was trying to find my old notes from our previous podcast
• 20:43
  but I couldn't. But anyways, this is so shit and
• 20:45
  so far Hallmark has not responded.
• 20:48
  Anyways guys, that's it for mini scroll today.
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