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Just Knate | The Christian Reeve Podcast #213 · The Christian Reeve Podcast

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Hello and welcome to another episode of Christian Reef
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podcast. Now today's guest, I've been
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really looking forward to doing this show.
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First things first, I'm going to shout out guyot ring on, thank
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you. This was a guest recommendation
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from him. So massive thank-you because of
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this I was then made familiar with our guest today just Nate
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and the this is a unique one because I'm not really sure
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exactly how to introduce you. Like I'm just going to say what
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my perception was when I came Across here, and we'll go with
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that. So, in my, my opinion just met,
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is an amazing content creator who spends his time and
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resources helping people in the United States and its s
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beautiful and welcome to the show.
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How you doing? I'm good, I'm good.
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I think there was a good introduction.
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Yeah, it's broader kind of covers everything.
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Yeah. It's I mean, it's been really
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excited. This is cool.
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Actually today is Birthday to. So this was kind of fun, happy
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birthday. Yeah, yeah, thanks man.
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No, thank you for putting aside some time for us on your
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birthday, right? I had no idea.
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But this is what I love to do. You know, stuff like this mad.
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Um, oh wow. Okay, well first, especially
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with that. Thank you.
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Yeah, I guess I do. I do want to kind of talk about
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the work that you're doing and how you're helping people.
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But I want to also kind of because part of what my show is
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or a big part of my show is to kind of get behind and kind of
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see why people do the things that they do and then your tell
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stories about people and kind of, you know, build that up and
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learn about the person behind everything that they see.
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And I just, I'm really intrigued like, how did this all start for
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you. What was the point where you
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kind of just said, like, Because I would imagine before you
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started doing this, you're already helping people because
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that's kind of just how it is, isn't it?
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You know, and I can say in my own life you know there were
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times when I was working like service jobs and you know I give
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all my cash tips to people, I'd find or, you know, did
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volunteering for a year and a half like you do what you can,
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right? Many of the people listening
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watching right now will have helped people in various shapes
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and forms and it doesn't just extend to Say helping people in
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need. It can just be little acts that
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you do each and every day to just make other people's lives
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better, you know? But I'm really intrigued to know
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where this all began for you. We're all kind of started and
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where it click what you said, you know what, I'm going to make
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this into something. Well, you know, I mean, I can
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dive back further to and say that like I've had my ups and
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downs when it comes to helping people because in the past, you
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know, I would I'd help people and the For I know, it would be
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affecting my personal life for getting in the way of things or
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giving away more to give and, you know, I even had one time
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where I gave a guy my I gave him like my last five dollars and I
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was in downtown, Los Angeles a long time ago when I lived out
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there and he bought it. What I did is I bought him a
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burrito. I've always said, you know, I
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still to this day, I always will get somebody food if they need
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to eat. So I bought him a burrito.
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I bought myself alone and then I realized that.
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I pretty much spend every dollar I had and I was like, wow, okay,
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well, I should be able to get home because I lived about 30 40
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miles from them from downtown at that time and then he reached in
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his pocket and I heard he had just the amount of change and
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dollars and everything because some fell out and he picked it
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up and I was like, wow, okay, so he has some money in his pocket.
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Whatever. You know, I'm sure he needs and
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then we got our food and parted ways.
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I got in my car and empty, I totally forgot.
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I needed money for gas and I that was everything.
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I had that moment. So all of a sudden now I'm
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driving home. Just sweating likes, very
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nervous. Like am I going to make it home
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like that? I really actually needed that
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even though I really wanted to help him.
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And, you know, that was something that really instilled
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in me. And then there was another
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moment where I actually, broke my ankle riding my bike and I
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was up in the mountains and I was doing jumps on a BMX bike
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and stuff, and I broke my ankle and there's nobody anywhere.
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I was completely alone, um, and this is so weird, but there was
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nobody there. Nobody, but when I fell, I was
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screaming. I was yelling more Angry than
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anything and a homeless guy comes out of a bush, somewhere
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that He lived in and he comes to help me and he had a stick that
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was like he turned into a crutch so he gave me that so I could
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get up and he helped me up and help me get back on my bike.
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So I could roll down the down to the bottom of the hill, get
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picked up to go to the hospital. And, you know, those, those two
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things is, it's kind of far apart because like, on one hand,
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I want to help people. But on the other, I can't
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prevent myself from getting home.
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And, you know, at the same time, it's just like the one person
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that was there. When I really really needed,
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somebody was the last person I would have ever expected.
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And someone I didn't even see there.
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And yet, you know, with he had almost nothing like that.
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Crutch was actually really important to him, but he was
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willing to give it to me and I thought that was that was
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really, really special fast forward a little bit and and I
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moved to Reno and I had a really good job.
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But it didn't totally work out and you know that company has
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since shut their doors. But as I was driving away from
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the job and I had been laid off, owner are getting.
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I saw somebody at the end of the freeway at the off-ramp and
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they're holding their sign there and I had just signed a lease on
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a home. So I wasn't I just signed a
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lease on a home. I put every dollar I had Get
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into that home. I think I had, and it's actually
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the same one I'm in now, but I have like one bed and a TV and a
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big four-bedroom, empty house that I was planning on having my
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family move into with me eventually and that's a whole
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nother story because, yeah, I still have a daughter and my
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fiance the time is no longer whatever.
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Anyway. So I was just sitting in this
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empty house and I'm going what do I do?
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You know, I Like, how is this going to work out?
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Like that guy, that was standing on the side of the road holding?
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That sign was probably in a similar situation to me right
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now, but he didn't have family. He didn't have resources, he
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didn't have something like a car, he could sell to save and
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pay his rent or something along those lines.
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You know, there was a domino effect there and it might have
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been to Dominoes, it could have been 10, but they all went down
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and that's what probably put him in that situation.
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Could put me in a very similar situation right now if I'm not
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careful. Wow, I could have been that guy.
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That guy could be me. Like we're really no different.
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It's just a matter of circumstances.
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I think I wonder what his story really is.
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I would really like to know more about that.
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I wonder if I could make. I wonder if other people have
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the same thought. I'm sure they do.
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I'm sure they do. I'm sure people.
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You'll wonder what made people get to that point and you know,
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what is their story and their journey and what can we do to
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make a difference and help? And that's when I started
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thinking, well maybe I could make content around something
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like that and actually share people's stories and spread
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awareness and make a difference. And then I actually tried it
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once without doing anything for someone and I never shared that
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video. But it just didn't feel right
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for me to interview someone, and someone who really meets
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something, who needs some help and I didn't give them anything.
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I just, I just share their story and I feel like I would really
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prefer to actually give them something, you know, or help
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them or find out what they really need.
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And that's when I went kind of back to the drawing board for a
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little bit and came up with. Okay, I'm going to go do food
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Hurry, Uber Eats or GrubHub or whatever and I'm going to take
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whatever I make out of that when I go for 45 hours on my day off
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and then take what I make go the next day and kind of integrate
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and do like talk to people and see what they what you know,
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what they really need. How'd they get to where they're
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at and what I can do to help them?
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And what can I get for them? And I was really worried at
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first, because I thought I was only going to be able to go.
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Hey man, I can only spend 20 bucks.
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That's all I have. Dollars.
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But I want to spend it on you. What could I get for you?
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And I and Something Told Me Something Told me.
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Don't mention anything just ask and if you can't get it or if
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it's way without a reap, figure it out and and so I just went
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for it. And I was nervous.
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I was scared. I thought they were going to ask
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for all sorts of things and the first guy I approached just
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wanted a pair of shoes and some socks and I was like I don't
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know. She was gonna be he's like no no
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I won't Aren't they like $15? You can buy it, you know?
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It would only be around. Twenty dollars is what he said.
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I didn't tell him that I only added twenty dollar budget, but
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yeah, he was asking for something.
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That was almost exactly, within my budget, and I was just like,
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wow, this is going to work, something greater is going on
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here. This is I just have to have
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faith and go and it's going to. It's going to work.
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So I went and I got him his choose and and it's funny
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because I've seen that guy like two or three times Since then,
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and I've helped them continuously and I hope that I
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can find the time to take him to get his i.d., because that's one
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of his biggest issues after talking with them some more.
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So, that's where it started off at.
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And then as it went and I did that for like about a month and
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I made the videos, share them, and everything people started
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shipping in and that's where it was like, wow.
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Now I can do a lot more and, you know, then I had to encourage
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people to ask for more and I still do Do because people ask
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for so little, a lot of them don't want a lot because it's
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just more to carry its more to deal with its more things that
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could get stolen. So it now it's just crazy
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because I have to, like, throw things out there, kind of like
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that. I think I know that they're
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going to want, you know what, you want to ring, you know,
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whatever it maybe do. You need a cart really haul, all
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your stuff, you need a tent, a sleeping bag.
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All those things that are Really kind of essential items for
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anyone that's living outside and and nine times out of ten.
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They not only need it but they really appreciate it when they
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see the items that I have, that people get from the Amazon
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wishlist or that I'm able to go by because I get good items.
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I get the same items you and I would get if we were going to go
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and brought might even be better than what you.
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And I would go get on our own budget to make sure that they're
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good and they appreciate it so much.
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So yeah, I guess in a quick nutshell may be as quick as I
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could put it. That's how I've gotta know where
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I'm at. Gaza.
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As always so many questions. I can begin with it.
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I took a glance at what you were doing.
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And I think one of the biggest things that really impressed me
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was just like how you structured and you kind of told us a little
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bit. They're like you start it which
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I didn't know actually that you started out just volunteer in
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your own time spending your hard-earned money to, then help
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these people, which others things.
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Last, that's incredible, man. Well done for that and then it's
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obviously built to this point. And we're now, if you go on, to
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your particular social media channels, there's like a series
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of different links, there's like, explanations of like, how
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to help people and how that will then help people.
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And then every video you see that, you see that being action,
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I saw one of your videos where you help in a guy and he had
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like he needed something to help power like an engine or
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something. Turns out you was looking
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engineer or something at one point or another.
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And see this is a very common story especially in the United
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States that I see over. And over again will be, I don't
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know, maybe someone fell on hard times during the pandemic or
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something. They lost their job, you know,
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they got let go something like that.
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And yeah, it's very simple. What you just said earlier about
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how, it's very easy for these circumstances to happen to any
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of us. It's like a series of things
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happening. One after another and then boom.
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You're on the streets and you're trying to get out of it.
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I've had the exact same sort of conversations here in the UK
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with people, where it's like, sometimes people are waiting,
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you know, they'll be on like some sort of a list waiting to
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get housing or they're waiting to, as you say, I get an ID,
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something like that. So that they're kind of like, in
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a limbo thing because that's the thing.
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Like most people walking down the street, don't you don't
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necessarily know the ins and outs of it.
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It's not that people aren't trying to get out of that
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situation. It's that they're like stuck,
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you know? And so until that time when they
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can get whatever it is the ID The job, you know, whatever
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they're in this sort of limbo position where maybe they're in
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a tent. Maybe they're staying at by
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these, something like that, until they can get back on their
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feet. Just want to through quickly,
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like the different types of ways.
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People can help people, you mentioned there that, you know,
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there's Amazon wish list, what other ways can you sort of
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seeking out tart with to help at the end of the day?
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The one thing that works the best is mine is mine.
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I don't even like saying it but because then I can use that to
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get exactly what that person needs.
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Right. I don't give out money for a few
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reasons. One is I'm very consistent and I
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started that way. So I'm going to keep it going
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that way and to I found that you know, a lot of these people
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can't get those things that they need.
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Meaning that they can't go in a store and buy them because a lot
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of them have like, all of their precious items and everything in
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a shop. pan card, and if they leave it outside, A lot of times
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it'll disappear on, that literally has everything they
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own it and they can't just walk around the store with that or
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they have it at their camp and they don't want to leave their
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camp or go very far from their Camp.
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You know, they want to be within reach of that.
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But yet this store that has all these items that they need is on
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the other side of town. So having someone actually go
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and get them, those things make a huge difference because if I
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just gave the money to get those items, a lot of times they
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would, Don't have the time or resources to go get them.
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They couldn't get a ride. They couldn't leave their stuff
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or even worse if they left their stuff and I'll be gone and now
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they are both do things and that's everything they owned.
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And and there could be some of their precious documents there,
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whether it be identification or birth certificate or something
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along those lines that could set them back.
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Even further in another aspect of that is.
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I'm not saying that everybody out here has a has an addiction
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problem. There are a handful that do and
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more often than not, you know, the guy on the corner that will
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give them that that thing that they really want.
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That's right there. That's, you know, not far away
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versus what they really need that.
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Not, it's further away and it has all these things they need
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to do to get there. Well, usually going to take
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what's easiest and right in front of you.
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So me doing what I do, makes a larger difference than I ever
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thought it would go in. Into it and not giving out cash
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on actually getting people things they need.
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And what I found also is that a lot of times, if it's getting
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someone to a destination or helping them across town or even
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across country, or whatever it may be, if I didn't go along
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with them and make sure that everything was good along the
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way, we figure out a budget and let's say they think it's going
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to take six hundred dollars in fuel and I give them six hundred
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dollars. Well, you know they might get
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halfway and then on their vehicle and now what now they're
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stuck. Now they're just in that same
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situation somewhere else with a little bit more money and less
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help less the resources. So taking the time to actually
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make sure that they get to that destination and they have
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whatever they need and being there for the ride and support
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throughout the entire process. It's a lot more work, it's a lot
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more effort but I find Essential and it really just, you know,
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it's why I do it the way I do it and it makes a big difference.
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I really feel that way. And the people I've helped to
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told me as well like the way you do it.
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I respect because you're there and you help us and you're you
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know, if I really needed, even if it's something that I didn't
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think of you think of things, I didn't think I would need as.
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Yeah. Well, you know, helped a couple
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people so I know how this goes Goes, and yeah, it makes a big
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difference. So a lot of other guys give out
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cash and sometimes I mean I envy them because I know that that's
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a lot quicker than what I do. What I do is a lot more
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involved, but I do feel that it's essential and I build a
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relationship with people, and that's the thing that's
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beautiful, that you can't do without spending time a recent
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Sent a recent thing that happened which was just
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beautiful and I couldn't believe it.
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It's mind-blowing and I haven't, I haven't even shared the video
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about it yet. I have to put it together but
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this guy helped, you know, I got him everything he needed and
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spend some time with them and toward the end of the day.
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I never put this in the video, but toward the end of our
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conversation. He says, do you ever help people
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get clean and sober? Do you ever help them like, get
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back on their feet and find them treatment facilities and stuff
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like that? I was like, Well yeah, I can
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point you in the right direction and I can tell you where to go
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but I can't do that for you, you know.
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But if it costs money or you need just someone to talk to do,
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whatever I can do that, you know?
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And so we talked a little bit more.
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We went out to lunch once and then I took him to get a shower
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and took them on a shopping spree and pin spent like an
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entire day with him and we kept talking the entire time and you
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just like I'm tired of it. I want to, I want to get clean.
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I can't keep doing this. This life is not For me, I just
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it's not going to last, you know, and I would talk with
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them. And I had, I just, you know,
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regular conversation that I would have with anyone about
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those kind of things and apparently, a lot of the stuff I
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said sunken more than I thought it would.
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And here's the thing that really blew my mind and is that he
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watched his own video that I made from the first video and he
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would read through the comments and there was a lot of
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positivity in a comments and people were saying this Guy
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seems like a great guy. Go help him more like, oh, I'd
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love to see him get back on his feet and things like that, and
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there's thousands of comments in there and most of them are very
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positive and that's actually what fueled him to get into
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treatment is the comments and seeing that the world cared.
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And that a guy like me, took time out of my day to go and
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hang out and treat him like like a regular human being between
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that and just that that's what inspired him to get back on his
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feet and And so he knew where to go for treatment, he done in
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that. Way, a long time ago in the past
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and part of our conversation was, if you're really ready, you
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know where to go, if you need help to get there, I'll give you
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a ride, whatever. But what's really stopping in
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anything? I don't know, man.
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I don't know. I mean, I really want to go.
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I really want to go. So, I, he fell off and I didn't
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talk to him for a few weeks. And I was like, I need to check
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in on, he called me on Sunday, and he said that he's two weeks
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sober, and out of treatment. And doing really good and
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working and getting back on his feet and everything.
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And that's when he told me that, you know, we went out and got
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got some dinner lunch. Dinner was like 4:00 and he said
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that the comments are what really did it for him, that just
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doesn't blows my mind. It blows my mind the power of a
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comment in positivity and it doesn't cost anybody anything to
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get in there and leave a positive message for somebody
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else to see. I'll, I see a lot of people say
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It's wrong for me to film what I do and I don't think they really
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understand how powerful it is. And what, you know, the people
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that I helped not only are they okay with it?
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A lot of them are excited to see their video when it comes out a
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lot of them become fans and this guy he ended up he was so
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inspired by the comments in the positivity out there from the
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community that it helped him move forward this life and get
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back on his feet at didn't cost anything.
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That was free to everybody to mean, it just blows my mind and
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it just you know it it confirms everything that this is this is
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real and this needs to happen. There's no stopping this.
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And I hope that when people hear that and I do share that video,
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that they understand how important it is, you know, even
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if it is just a comment, there's something big that can come from
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it. Couldn't agree more.
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What would you say in regards to instances like this, where, you
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know, you're keeping tabs on people just to kind of check in
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with them or, you know, maybe you're just checking in with
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people later on, you know, because I imagine, you get a lot
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of comments like this, like, hey, give us an update house
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so-and-so doing etc, etc. What have been the kind of most
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memorable instances where you follow up with someone and
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they're doing so much better now, or what they may be reached
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out to you or something like that.
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Well, that one was the most recent so that was fresh in my
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mind but there's been a lot a lot.
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And what's funny though is like I don't totally understand why
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some people go viral because others, I think most of it's
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because they show more emotion on on camera and they're just
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more animated in the way they react to everything others.
23:24
I just kind of, you know, more calm and And soft-spoken.
23:29
And they, it doesn't mean that they're not as grateful, but
23:35
they still, you know, they still want to move forward, they still
23:38
do whatever. And there's a handful of people
23:41
like that, who have gone through the whole process and now are
23:44
living on their own and doing very well.
23:47
And then there's others that like, they just grabbed people's
23:51
hearts. And so, they're always asking
23:52
about there's like one guy in a recent video where I guess he
23:57
fractured So somebody hit him over the head and while he was
24:01
sleeping I saw this one. Yeah.
24:03
Yeah. And that guy, I've actually ran
24:05
into a few times out there. I've only actually got them on
24:10
camera twice. There was one way in the past, I
24:14
don't know. Nobody seemed to put the two
24:17
together but I got a wheelbarrow girl a long time ago.
24:19
And that's what he wanted. So he can haul all this stuff
24:23
around and wash his dog and maybe like, put some water and
24:26
take a bath with stuff like that.
24:27
Was like very resourceful. I was that guy that said such a
24:30
cool. That's a cool request.
24:32
But I've never had that like, that blew my mind and this time
24:35
was much different when I saw him and, you know, I haven't
24:40
found him again yet so it's he's not the kind of person to reach
24:44
out, make a phone call or ask for much.
24:48
He's one of the people that I really like, you know, catch at
24:51
that right moment in time when he really, really, really
24:54
something like that day and he just needed a couple items, he
24:59
didn't he doesn't ask for a lot. So I hope I can run into him
25:02
again. He had already been in the
25:04
hospital. He had already been kicked out.
25:06
He had already been looked at. There wasn't much more you could
25:09
You for him at that point other than, you know, putting him in a
25:13
home or getting a place or things like that.
25:16
But unfortunately, for everybody out here they don't have an ID.
25:20
I can't get them. Even I'll tell they'll get
25:24
kicked out. I've even been blacklisted from
25:28
a hotel in town. Very popular chain.
25:31
Might I add that I got something on a room.
25:35
I didn't have a neck to get my kids mine and now I can't ring
25:38
anybody rooms. They're even just went to take a
25:40
couple there to get a room and now they are blacklisted because
25:45
I tried to get them a room to say, said that's how the system
25:48
works. It's out of our hands.
25:49
It makes absolutely no sense to me but that was kind of like
25:52
heartbreaking for me too, because they'd already gotten
25:54
rooms there. So I have to be very careful
25:57
about what I do. And when and think about it,
26:00
because I mean, my town is only so big and especially if it's a
26:04
large chain and then all of a sudden, I'm like that throughout
26:07
the country on that chain. It could really affect how I go
26:10
and help people down the road. So it really sucks that I can
26:15
only do so much for people without an ID.
26:20
I don't know what it's like in the UK but I know here.
26:24
If yeah. If you don't have your
26:25
identification you're really limited away and getting one
26:30
without an address. It's like this is Loop this
26:33
infinite Loop that people get stuck in is because you can't
26:36
get an ID without an address but you can't have an address
26:41
without an ID because how are you going to go in an apartment
26:45
with them or whatever? So it's just this like what?
26:49
You have to have somebody or a place that's willing to let you
26:53
use their address and there's only a handful of organizations
26:58
that will do that and I'm not an organization.
27:00
I'm just name and I will let people use mine sometimes and
27:06
that can make a big difference, but it's still tough.
27:08
Still finding an appointment appointments for the DMV here
27:11
are like a month to two months out, so and they don't do
27:16
walk-ins anymore and that's the only place t.
27:19
Get an idea. So I don't know how it works
27:21
over there but across the pond is you guys say, right?
27:25
Yeah. They bring it, it's definitely
27:30
something that we have an issue with but in a slightly different
27:32
way. So for example, let's say you're
27:35
trying to find a job. Most jobs will when you go to
27:40
that designing stage and everything, you'll need to
27:43
provide a proof of address or in some shape or form.
27:46
Not always, but there are like a lot of jobs where either ask for
27:49
that information and of course, if you're homeless, you don't
27:52
have an address, you might be lucky in that you might be able
27:55
to sometimes. I know that councils will have
27:58
certain facilities where you can use a sort of like a generic
28:02
address. I know there's online versions
28:04
though, I don't really know to what extent that works.
28:08
I don't know, it's quite A New Concept but it's the same
28:11
Catch-22 of like. Yeah.
28:13
You get pushed away. Get pushed away.
28:14
You get pushed away. Like I remember one guy that I
28:16
used to donate money to. This was when I was at
28:18
University. Go for that exact situation,
28:21
like he was on some sort of a waiting list.
28:25
I think. And at that time he was
28:28
perpetually staying in hotels. Now, to answer your question
28:31
before it really depends, as I understand most places generally
28:36
you could probably give cash and they would, you know, a lot of
28:39
the time people just saving on that particular day to just get
28:42
a room for the night, maybe in a cheap hostel a cheap hotel, some
28:46
places are more. I'm going to put some places are
28:54
more hospitable than others. Let's put it that way.
28:56
I know the places where I currently live people have been
28:59
turned away because they assumed like everyone is just going to
29:02
do drugs. Then I hate sometimes they do
29:04
and that is against the rules and you shouldn't be doing that
29:07
etcetera but there's been some instances, I've heard about
29:10
where you know people have been thrown out in the middle of the
29:16
night because of it. And it's like, I think.
29:23
You look. When it comes down to it, there
29:29
are moments in life where you've got to put aside profession and
29:34
professional in the all that and just appeal to The Human Side of
29:38
Things. Should someone be smoking weed
29:41
in a hotel room fine though? It's against the rules but if
29:45
you kick that person out in the middle of the night, they've got
29:49
nowhere to go. You know, they could if it's
29:53
winter they could die on the street.
29:55
Stuff like that. I personally couldn't live with,
30:00
you know, I'd sooner be like, okay, met in the morning right
30:04
time to leave. You know, clean up the room at
30:07
least that guy had somewhere to stay that night at least you
30:09
know, you know I'm saying. Like it's like that.
30:14
Yeah, there's a lot of rules out there.
30:16
And things are becoming more official and documented
30:20
throughout the process because everything's going so digital
30:23
that you can't skip over. And you know somebody could put
30:27
their own job at risk. If they are just have
30:30
compassion, which is wrong. I but I don't agree with it but
30:34
that's where things are going and it shows it's quiet and it's
30:37
always been like this as well like that just brought back a
30:39
memory. Have you seen the movie Into The
30:43
Wild? It's released about 2006 or
30:45
something. It's about a guy, okay, know
30:49
what you're talking about, but I am so so for those who don't
30:52
know, it's about a real life story, a guy called something.
30:55
Mccandles give me a comment by his first name, it was a guy who
31:00
you know graduated high school very very smart guy decided that
31:07
he just wanted to kind of do away with all that and live in
31:11
the wilderness live and originally that was like living
31:14
in various places. I think in deserts with similar
31:17
people kind of Off the Grid type people and then eventually his
31:22
ultimate plan was to go to Alaska and live out in the To
31:25
this. And unfortunately he met a
31:28
tragic end. And you know it it's documented
31:31
in that movie and they did, a pretty faithful decent telling
31:35
of his story, I think. But the reason why I bring it up
31:38
is there's a moment in that movie where and I don't know if
31:41
this is actually something that happened in real life, but in
31:44
the movie, he cuts up his credit cards.
31:47
He I think he burns his passport, he gets rid of that,
31:50
he's got no i.d., no social security number.
31:53
None of these burners got rid of all of that.
31:55
That one night he gets desperate he needs somewhere to stay.
32:00
They won't accept it when they mean because he's got no way of
32:04
proving who he is. Now, as I said before, in the
32:08
UK, I know that there's many places that you don't need those
32:12
IDs situations. I think cash is just fine, but
32:16
there's a lot of instances where you do need it.
32:20
And it's crazy. But as I understand in the
32:21
state's, it's like, yeah, that if you don't have it, that's it.
32:25
You just turned away from everywhere.
32:27
And it's, I mean, these things cost money as well.
32:29
I imagine at the DMV, that's probably like, at least a
32:31
hundred dollars or something like to just get, oh no, they're
32:35
inexpensive. That's the hardest part.
32:37
There are like 12 to 20 dollars. Oh, not.
32:39
Okay, I was okay with just an arduous process burger at
32:43
McDonalds. It's just the process.
32:45
That's right for his par, is it? It's something so inexpensive.
32:49
But so, She'll like you know I pay more for that for almost
32:55
everything I get for anyone and an ID is like so cheap and
33:00
expensive. Was that just to look a lot of
33:02
Hoops to go through. Like, what kind of stuff do you
33:04
need to provide for the idea, I think you mentioned before that,
33:07
you need a dress or something in the address if you and here's
33:11
the other kicker there, depending on the state.
33:14
If you don't have any current identification or any way to
33:16
prove who you are, you can't get that.
33:19
I ID. Because they don't know.
33:21
If you are, who you say? You are you call it.
33:24
Oh. Do you need an ID to get an ID?
33:27
Some form. So if you have like a social
33:30
security card or birth certificate, and then you go to
33:32
get a replacement ID, okay? You are who you are because, you
33:35
know, you have a second form, a different type.
33:38
If you've lost everything, it can be really hard and get like
33:43
a buff certificate with that prove that I suppose.
33:46
Yeah, if you can get your Social Security or birth certificate,
33:48
you can get things like that if you know, all the information.
33:53
So like it depends on really and it depends on who Dealing with
33:58
and I have been in instances where someone at the DMV was a
34:02
little bit more compassionate. Like I said, and willing to kind
34:05
of work on bend a rule a bit and say, like, okay, tell me more
34:10
about everything. Where was this address?
34:12
What was your maiden name? Blah, blah, blah, going through
34:16
a whole set of questions and finally got to my like, okay, I
34:20
know you are who you say you are we're okay?
34:24
But you know, as with anything that's That requires somebody to
34:28
be compassionate and willing. You get the wrong person on the
34:32
wrong day, and that might not might not happen.
34:37
So, it just depends and it's frustrating.
34:40
It's hard. So, you might have to go one
34:42
place before you go to another. And what I found here with
34:45
getting jobs is most of them, almost all require two forms of
34:50
ID. So if you get just one, you
34:53
still can't go get a job. You have to have a second form.
34:56
So, I do now is if I'm going to help somebody get back on their
35:00
feet and off the street and go through that process, the first
35:04
step is making sure they have two forms of identification so
35:08
that we can. And I'm not saying like I wait
35:10
and I don't do anything until they figure that out.
35:12
No, no. That's the first step is how do
35:14
we go and get that? How do we make an appointment
35:16
for you to get your identification?
35:17
How do we make an appointment for you?
35:19
Social Security and then maybe you can work with an
35:22
organization or whatever and order your birth certificate get
35:26
at least 24. Arms.
35:27
And then we can line up our job. And then we can get you a place
35:31
and so on, you know, it's a lengthy process.
35:33
There's a lot of steps involved, but I hate to say it, but that's
35:38
like the first thing that sucks is like until you have those.
35:42
There's not much we can do, and it is out of my hand.
35:45
That that's why I hate to say it.
35:46
It's out of my hands, and it's frustrating because there's
35:48
nothing I can do. There's no amount of money, no
35:51
person. Nothing that can change that.
35:53
At least, as of now, So this clears up a lot of at least my
35:59
understanding of why there's such a huge homeless problem in
36:03
the state's. I mean, don't get me wrong, we
36:04
got a big homeless problem here in the UK, but we at least do
36:08
have like Charities that sort of help the homeless get back on
36:12
their feet and such. We've got like things like
36:15
halfway houses, there's different schemes as different
36:18
charities is different. Things put in place to try and
36:22
help people. We have stuff like that too.
36:25
It's dry, it's so vast. There's so many exactly.
36:28
Yeah. And it's like, you know, one
36:33
thing from this compassionate people, you often hear is I'll
36:35
just go get a job but it's not that as used every as you've
36:38
outlined there. It's not really that
36:40
straightforward. It's not like yet and going back
36:43
to what you said earlier about. Like if you're in a situation
36:46
where you've set up camp somewhere and it's like you
36:49
don't have the time I'm to do something like that.
36:51
Yeah, and you don't, you know, it's not safe to do that and
36:56
it's like, What do you even start like that?
37:00
That guy that you spoke about earlier who been hit over the
37:03
head and he's dealing with all this stuff.
37:04
I think, if I remember correctly, he was with someone
37:07
at least in the video but let's like it's just him and that one
37:10
person and that's it and and he's got think about him and
37:13
that other person as well as another thing to contend with.
37:17
So many factors at play. I where do you even begin trying
37:20
to get yourself out of that situation?
37:22
Yeah, no, that's the hard part. And a lot of times like this,
37:27
recent couple where the wife is like, six months pregnant.
37:32
They, he doesn't want to leave her alone because they have some
37:36
kind of close calls of things happening to her.
37:39
So he can't really. And they have a dog on top of
37:42
all of them, so that throws another element into the.
37:45
A lot of places won't accept dogs.
37:48
What do you do with your dog all day?
37:50
What do you do with your pregnant wife?
37:52
Wife that, you know, she has a lot of great things have
37:57
happened and I'm still working very closely with them.
38:01
You know. They actually, you know, I
38:03
haven't even shared the video yet.
38:04
That's like my I might get that one out today.
38:06
It might be tomorrow. I have to go through to make it.
38:09
But anyway, they've been doing wonderful and I help them get
38:12
back on their feet and other working, both of them, and it's
38:17
great. But you know that what kept them
38:19
in that situation like they even went and found a job where they
38:22
can Together and take the dog with them.
38:25
And yet they fired them because they were they stunk and they
38:30
smell like a campfire because they were burning a fire to stay
38:33
warm. So they were covered in almost
38:36
like stood and black, but they couldn't go clean it off.
38:39
They had nowhere to do it and you can't come to work like
38:43
this, you know, which is understandable in a way because
38:45
we've been raised with only need to present yourself
38:49
professionally for a job to go into work, you go.
38:52
Into a job. Looking good, you have nice
38:55
clean clothes, you know you're clean shaven or just whatever.
39:00
I mean it to be everything but you know, you present yourself
39:04
well and you know, these people don't even have that option.
39:07
So at some point they could get let go if they're even hired.
39:12
And so it's a big misconception out there to just go get a job,
39:19
just go get a job. They obviously don't want to
39:21
work, they don't care. That's why.
39:23
There are a handful that don't, you know, but most of them
39:28
actually do, they just don't have the resources to make it
39:31
happen and a lot of it could just be somebody be willing to
39:35
take the time to let them use their address and give them a
39:38
ride to the DMV or taken to the Social Security office.
39:43
So they can get a social security card and pay the couple
39:46
bucks that are cost to get that done and I know that doesn't.
39:50
It's not a lot, it doesn't cost. A lot it's definitely out of
39:53
time. It's some effort you have to set
39:55
aside and I'm not telling everybody to go do that for
39:57
everybody. They run into by all means.
39:59
I'm not saying that, but if you want to help that might be one
40:02
of the first things that you asked before you throw out, get
40:05
a job, you know, How many people do you?
40:10
Resta mate, you've helped. All I don't know because I don't
40:15
film everything and you know, even if I'm in a rush and I'm in
40:22
the middle of doing something and I see someone, I still get
40:24
him some food or whatever. They need right there.
40:28
If I have things in my car, I have one of my cars is always
40:31
loaded with. It's always got tents and
40:34
sleeping bags and backpacks and I have totes in there.
40:37
They're full of items that people could use.
40:39
So as I'm driving around, if I see someone, I even if I'm in a
40:42
rush, I And them something, if I'm in that car.
40:45
But if I'm in a different vehicle, or I'm out with my
40:47
girlfriend or something, then I get them a meal if they want it,
40:52
you know? And I'm going in a restaurant,
40:54
they're sitting outside sometimes like the other day.
40:57
I offered to buy you guys some food, and we went out for dinner
40:59
and he just wanted money, and that's all he would take.
41:02
So, at the time, I didn't have anything else with me, so I
41:06
didn't, I was frustrating. That was like, man, I can't
41:09
really take the time to go and get him anything else right now.
41:12
But he said, He was good and he said he had plenty of food.
41:14
So that's my main concern. I don't know.
41:18
I don't know in my videos. I think I have well over 100.
41:25
So as far as like people on camera somewhere over 100 and
41:30
other than a but it's definitely up there, it's might be double
41:34
that, I don't know, I don't know, it's hard to say.
41:37
I don't keep track of that I got into this, with this, arbitrary
41:41
goal that I could get 100 people off the street.
41:45
And I was like, I'm gonna do that, man.
41:48
It's going to be so cool. I'm going to knock it out and
41:50
what if I get 100 one year and then I get two or three of the
41:53
next year, And you know, diving deeper realized, okay.
41:57
It's going to take a little bit longer than I expected but I'll
42:01
still do it. It's just going to take longer
42:03
as with anything. You know, we all said pretty
42:05
high goals for ourselves, right? And sometimes you have to, you
42:10
know, kind of realize, okay? What's realistic here?
42:12
How far can I get and go for it, you know, now, let it discourage
42:16
you, but go for it. So now I'm at like somewhere,
42:20
like 12 or 14, something like that, maybe 15 people that have
42:24
helped. Get back on their feet and off
42:26
of the streets. And again, I'm just one guy.
42:28
I started doing this, it doing over and all that back last year
42:33
in June. So I'm not even at the one-year
42:36
Mark yet. So I think you know that number
42:40
is going to grow as time goes on and it might turn into something
42:43
much larger. I don't know how far I want to
42:46
go with. Turning it into an organization
42:50
and changing how I do things because I feel like if I turn it
42:54
into Too much of a format, you know, and I'll go into what's
43:00
already out there and not have it so customized and tailored
43:04
for each person. And that's what I don't want to
43:07
do. I want to make sure that I can
43:08
get, you know like I when I approach people and ask them
43:11
what they want to eat. I don't just walk up and give
43:13
them whatever I have I ask them exactly what they want.
43:16
You know if they no matter whatever they ask me for I will
43:19
find a way to get it. If it's attainable I would get
43:22
it and I think that that's It's special to know that somebody is
43:26
actually getting you exactly what you want.
43:28
Not just what's given in a situation like that, like this
43:32
most recent video when I walked up.
43:33
So I told her I said, you know, I'll give you anything.
43:36
You want to eat right now he's like, oh, I'll just take
43:38
anything. I says, no.
43:39
No. Today's the day you get to
43:41
choose. What do you want?
43:43
And that's one of mine bone and all she wanted was something to
43:46
share with other people. And that in itself was just
43:50
beautiful, you know, and most people don't realize that most
43:55
of these people out here want to share and help others as well.
44:00
And they do, they have to, they have to work together.
44:02
They have a lot of people that their camping with or working
44:06
with that are close to them. So it ended up being pizza
44:10
because we can get I get a bunch of pizzas and chicken wings and
44:14
she can share all that but that tends to be an item sometimes It
44:18
does give out and she told me that somebody recently gave her
44:22
a box of pizza when she said you was hungry.
44:24
That was empty and no pizza in it.
44:26
They thought that was, that was kind of funny.
44:29
That's a, a really cruel joke to play on someone who's starving.
44:33
I don't understand why you would do that.
44:35
But, you know, that's what happens to these people out of
44:37
there. It's tougher than you think.
44:42
But imagine being so cruel to another human being.
44:45
Wow, that just sorry. I just caught me by surprise
44:48
like, you know, you get these assholes in life sometimes but
44:52
like, wow, yeah. Damn.
44:58
Yeah, 70 questions. Um, You kind of okay, this next
45:03
question. You kind of like gave us a bit
45:06
of an outline in the beginning but I just want to kind of get
45:08
your, your kind of philosophy on this.
45:13
Why should we help other people? Well, that's the only way we can
45:17
make things better. Working together.
45:21
We can't count on on agencies, or governments or corporations
45:27
or anything to have our best interest.
45:29
We need to have each other's best interest at heart.
45:33
That's a, I think that's the only way we're going to see true
45:36
change. And at some point when we make
45:39
that the trend, or what school as you know, humanity is done
45:44
with many things. All of a sudden, the
45:46
corporations and the government. Or whoever start going, oh, we
45:49
need to get on this because this is what people really want.
45:52
There's no stopping it. Now, we have to do something on
45:55
but we're where it starts. It's incredible moment for all
46:01
the time coming. Gosh, you've achieved so much in
46:04
such a short space of time, like about 15 people, get off the
46:09
streets and less than a year, you've helped you say estimate
46:13
100, there's more you helping people all the time.
46:17
Incredible throughout that time, what would you say has been the
46:21
biggest lessons you've learned? Through doing it.
46:25
And from people, Well, the biggest I think there's there's
46:30
a handful like as I already mentioned, making sure that we
46:34
can get documents secured before we do it.
46:36
Try to do too much. As I've dealt with that many
46:40
times where we get one, we don't have another or we have none and
46:44
we're trying to move forward and it's just this stone wall.
46:46
We had no matter what we do and it's really frustrating, and
46:49
it's kind of heartbreaking, so making sure that that's knocked
46:53
out before we go to the next steps.
46:56
That's one. The other is how I've learned
46:59
how to read people better. I die already started fairly
47:03
good but you know, and I always give people the benefit of the
47:07
doubt and I tell people all the time saying, honestly in your
47:09
situation, if you have a front or a story or something that
47:13
you're putting off there, that helps you survive.
47:16
I get it. I don't care if you lie to me.
47:18
It's not a problem. Just fill me what you're willing
47:22
to do, you know, I believe what I see, you know, you can keep
47:26
lying to me all you. Kari makes things a lot harder
47:29
to say. Okay, you need this but you
47:31
didn't really or you have that and you don't really whatever
47:34
this makes things. A little bit tougher.
47:36
It'll be a lot easier if you just honors, but at the end of
47:39
the day, as long as you do, what you say, you're going to do and
47:42
you show me that you're willing to and work with you and trust,
47:46
and we build that relationship, then we can move forward,
47:49
whatever it may be. So learning how to read people
47:52
better something that's always on going and I'll always be
47:55
getting better at. And I think that Is also going
47:58
to change depending on the region.
47:59
Because even in different states, here, people are going
48:03
to have kind of different situations of things are dealing
48:05
with here. It's really cold in the winter
48:07
and it gets cold. Not really, really cool.
48:10
We don't go below zero but we do get cold, it gets to freezing
48:15
and stuff and there are people that die freezing on the street.
48:19
So yeah, like I know, as I venture out into different
48:24
areas, I'm going to have to constantly adapt and See what
48:28
works best for them there and figure that out which I'm
48:31
excited. The kind of stuff excites me,
48:34
give it a damn thing. So I'm excited to venture out
48:37
and help other people in other places.
48:40
Also just learning exactly what people really need.
48:43
What's generic, and what I can turn this into and where I can
48:46
go with it. And so what it's going to end up
48:50
being is kind of a one for one style company.
48:54
I know that there's a handful out there that sell Items.
48:58
Whether it's socks, or something like that and for every one you
49:01
bought it, you were away. And that's what I think I'm
49:03
going to integrate into everything I'm doing, because
49:06
I'm already giving a lot of way through the Amazon wish list,
49:09
why not to have those items that, you know, are branded, and
49:14
people can buy to show their support and also know that that
49:19
second pair went to somebody who really needs it and then the
49:22
flip side to that and what makes it going to, what makes it much
49:25
different is they're going to get to see.
49:27
See, you know, through the content of where it's going and
49:32
I think that's going to be really powerful and cool because
49:34
it's already happening. So why not make it something
49:37
people can be more involved with and also something they can get
49:39
back to. So somebody gets an essential
49:42
item with a need, whether it be a shirt or be some socks, or a
49:46
hat, whatever it may be and they can have their own and nobody
49:50
knew somebody who could really use it.
49:54
A couple of final questions for you completely unrelated to what
49:58
we're talking about today, sir. What's the best advice you've
50:03
ever received? Oh I wish I could say it word
50:09
for word. This is I don't know if it's
50:10
best best but it's something that I thought was really
50:13
interesting that somebody told me there was a homeless lady
50:15
that actually got you got hustled out of a lot of money,
50:20
my kind of put her in her situation and her outlook on.
50:23
It was really interesting. She said that, you know it's
50:29
it's the hustled who it's the hustled who gets hustled me.
50:35
That you want to believe the Hustler giving you this story
50:39
and trying to take advantage of you.
50:41
And it's your fault because you wanted to believe that and you
50:45
can allow yourself to and you got hustled yourself and I don't
50:51
know. I mean, I feel like that can
50:53
play into a lot of things, and it doesn't have to be word for
50:57
word, you know, how that goes her life in general of how you
51:01
look at it stuff. And and the Outlook after being
51:05
Kind of screwed over and hustled and taken for a lot in her
51:10
situation. Where that, you know, that
51:12
amount of money worth it was like about dollars for her was
51:16
that was like 10 or 100 for people, you know, like us or
51:21
other people, whatever, it's all relevant, depending on your
51:23
situation. So that was a lot of money to
51:26
her and her Outlook was that she wasn't on her toes or not.
51:30
It was her own fault and I just thought that was kind of
51:34
beautiful. In a way because she doesn't
51:37
blame it on anybody. She didn't think that, you know,
51:41
even though this guy with, you know, a bad person and out
51:46
hustling, people and ended up putting a gun to her head to
51:50
take her for that monthly. She still said, hey, it's not
51:56
his fault. I put myself in that situation
51:59
and I didn't know, I didn't do something quick enough to get
52:02
out of it. I don't know if that kind of
52:03
blew my mind because, you know, it's nice to, it's easy to be in
52:08
control of your own life. And and your own actions but you
52:11
can't control someone else's and to not blame them.
52:14
When you make the wrong decision is important.
52:17
I think That's what I kind of took for me.
52:23
What's the biggest life lesson you've learned so far?
52:29
Now really the biggest life lesson is just that we are all
52:34
human beings, doesn't matter. Race religion where you come
52:39
from my or whether you're homeless or you're a
52:42
millionaire. At the end of the day, we're all
52:46
just human beings, and we're all the same, you know, deep down.
52:51
Everybody wants different things.
52:52
Everybody came from different backgrounds.
52:54
Everybody speaks differently. And that doesn't make us really
52:59
any different, you know, deep down, we all the same needs and
53:05
it's important for us to really realize that at the end of the
53:07
day, especially when it comes to helping somebody.
53:11
It's been absolute, pleasure speaking with you, right?
53:16
Is there anything that you'd like to leave us with any
53:19
upcoming projects or some final thoughts that you'd like to
53:21
share with our listeners? So I have my microphone back
53:27
here and there will be just need podcast coming soon.
53:31
Whoo, are we good? And that's gonna be me
53:34
interviewing people. I've worked with and people that
53:37
I've helped either get back on their feet or people that Maybe
53:42
they haven't gotten that far, but we'll just like our
53:44
interactions what went on off-camera, like, what did they
53:47
think about me approaching them? What was there inside and you
53:53
know, where are they going? What's what's going on in their
53:56
lives today? And also maybe throwing in some
54:01
other people that do things similar, to me.
54:03
Some other influencers here or there, or people that have just
54:06
been homeless and work their way out of it, and gotten back on
54:09
their feet and hearing their story.
54:10
And how They did it. I think that it's kind of a
54:13
central to share that. So that people, that are
54:15
struggling can see that it's possible, and they could do it
54:18
too. So, the podcast, I feel like is
54:21
the best way, and I already had my followers by me.
54:25
Almost everything I need to do it, so, there's no going back.
54:28
Now, I'm so happy for you. I thought think that's a
54:32
brilliant ideas. I don't know that I've ever seen
54:35
that concept either before, but I know for definite is going to
54:41
It's going to be brilliant because you see you see a lot of
54:44
these comments. I've seen them in your videos as
54:46
well where people like ah yeah. Please give us a follow up.
54:49
Let us know how such and such person is doing and now you can
54:52
see it. I mean, I think if nothing else
54:55
what it will demonstrate is, hey, this is the power of what
54:58
your actions can achieve and where it can lead and how it can
55:01
completely change. Not just one person's life, but
55:04
multiple people's lives. Just amazing stuff, man.
55:09
I really wish you the best of luck.
55:11
Aqua. That can't wait to see it come
55:12
out. It's going to be awesome.
55:13
Yeah, I'm really excited about it and it's another way to
55:16
update people on everything that's been going on.
55:18
And I don't have to necessarily turn it into a short form video.
55:23
It's long and we can get a lot more out of it.
55:27
It will be a little tricky though because some of these
55:29
people talk very low, some of them, you know, they don't have
55:33
teeth and it's going to be a little bit different on
55:35
microphones, you know, but it's something that I think we need
55:40
to do. And I think I think that
55:42
everyone, I've mentioned it to that have been helping that have
55:44
been working with are already excited about it and asking me
55:46
when are we going to do this? So I think it's going to be
55:50
really cool real positive. Good stuff.
55:53
Yeah, could put it better myself.
55:56
It's been a real pleasure, just learning your story learning
55:59
about your experiences. And, yeah, I just really wish
56:03
you the best of this work. It's truly inspiring stuff.
56:06
And thank you so much for the work you do, man.
56:08
We're pleasure. Whereabouts in the UK, are you
56:13
I'm based in Manchester right now in the United Kingdom?
56:17
Okay, well maybe one day down the road I can get across the
56:21
pond And and see if I can help some people over there.
56:24
That would be awesome, man. Absolutely.
56:27
Yeah, man definitely. Yeah.
56:29
My dad was actually born in Bristol.
56:31
Oh well bigger. Yeah.
56:33
Awesome. Yeah.
56:34
Yeah. Super cool.
56:36
Cool man. Listen, it's been an absolute
56:38
pleasure. I wish you the best of luck.
56:40
I will be in touch and to all the listeners of the Christian
56:43
repo guys. Thank you so much for listening.
56:45
Hope you enjoyed this episode. Make sure you go drop, native
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follow and go support his work and help him facilitate this.
56:52
Amazing. Amazing work that he's doing.
56:54
Thank you for listening, be safe.
56:56
Be well, the see you in the next one.
56:52
Amazing. Amazing work that he's doing.
56:54
Thank you for listening, be safe.
56:56
Be well, the see you in the next one.