Latest / Beyond The Horizon / Murder In Moscow: Jack DuCoeur’s Family Described His Grief After Kaylee Goncalves Was Killed
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. In
- 0:04Speaker 1: the wake of the murders in Moscow, the first person
- 0:08Speaker 1: I thought that was responsible for all of this was
- 0:12Speaker 1: the last person that the girls had called. Now we're
- 0:15Speaker 1: talking right in the wake of all of this happening.
- 0:18Speaker 1: And that was because usually it's an ex-boyfriend, an ex-lover,
- 0:23Speaker 1: someone who was jilted, who does something like this. So
- 0:27Speaker 1: the person that they had called all of those times
- 0:29Speaker 1: was Kaylee's ex-boyfriend, Jack. And now, again, remember, we're talking
- 0:35Speaker 1: about when this first happened, the first couple of days,
- 0:38Speaker 1: I thought that was the most likeliest of people who
- 0:41Speaker 1: was responsible for what happened here. But when we got
- 0:44Speaker 1: more context and we learned more information, well, we found
- 0:48Speaker 1: out that he was cleared and the police, they looked
- 0:51Speaker 1: at his alibi and according to them, he had nothing
- 0:54Speaker 1: to do with this. Yet for some people, it just
- 0:57Speaker 1: wasn't good enough. And they kept digging, they kept poking,
- 1:01Speaker 1: and they kept vilifying this dude as if he was
- 1:03Speaker 1: the killer. And now he's going to have to suffer
- 1:08Speaker 1: those consequences for the rest of his life. Not only
- 1:11Speaker 1: is he grieving his ex-girlfriend, but now people are vilifying
- 1:14Speaker 1: this kid and acting like he's the one who committed
- 1:18Speaker 1: these murders. And that's a tag that's going to be
- 1:21Speaker 1: stuck to him for the rest of his life, no
- 1:23Speaker 1: matter what happens here. Even when they find the real murderer,
- 1:26Speaker 1: the real person who did this, this kid's still going
- 1:29Speaker 1: to be stuck with that tag. And that's pretty brutal.
- 1:34Speaker 1: Not only is he grieving the death of Kaylee, now
- 1:37Speaker 1: he has to worry about his own reputation and image
- 1:40Speaker 1: being tarnished forever. And remember, he's a student at the
- 1:44Speaker 1: University of Idaho. So he's going to go back to
- 1:46Speaker 1: this campus and now people are going to be looking
- 1:48Speaker 1: at him sideways. It's going to be all bad. And
- 1:51Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked at some point if this kid
- 1:54Speaker 1: ends up filing some lawsuits. Today's article is from the
- 1:58Speaker 1: New York Post. Headline, Vilified ex-boyfriend of slain Idaho student
- 2:03Speaker 1: Kaylee Gonsalves is devastated. This article was authored by Georgia Worrell.
- 2:12Speaker 1: The man once considered a person of interest in the
- 2:15Speaker 1: murder of his ex-girlfriend and three other University of Idaho
- 2:18Speaker 1: students is crushed he lost the love of his life
- 2:21Speaker 1: and devastated that some consider him a suspect in the slaughter,
- 2:25Speaker 1: a family member told the Post. I can't imagine. Imagine
- 2:30Speaker 1: losing your girlfriend and then everybody thinking you did it.
- 2:35Speaker 1: That must be the weight of the world on your shoulders.
- 2:41Speaker 1: And then even when the police clear you, you still
- 2:43Speaker 1: have knuckleheads out there that are banging the drum, acting
- 2:47Speaker 1: like you're the one who did it. Speaking publicly for
- 2:53Speaker 1: the first time, Brooke Miller said her nephew, Jack Decor,
- 2:56Speaker 1: is currently surrounded by family and friends as he grieves
- 3:00Speaker 1: Kaylee Gonsalves' murder. He's not only lost the love of
- 3:03Speaker 1: his life and what we all thought, and he probably
- 3:06Speaker 1: thought as well, would be his future wife, you know,
- 3:09Speaker 1: get married and have kids and all of that, but
- 3:12Speaker 1: also half of America thinks he could be responsible for
- 3:15Speaker 1: the heinous killings, said Miller. And honestly, when all of
- 3:19Speaker 1: this first happened, Like I said in the opening here,
- 3:22Speaker 1: I thought he was responsible too before we had any
- 3:25Speaker 1: details and we were just hearing about what happened. It
- 3:29Speaker 1: certainly sounded to me like the person who was being
- 3:31Speaker 1: called 10 times should be a person of interest. And
- 3:35Speaker 1: obviously the cops went down that path and they have
- 3:38Speaker 1: found that this dude, Jack here, has nothing to do
- 3:41Speaker 1: with it. And if they have already ruled him out,
- 3:45Speaker 1: I don't know how people can be so gung-ho to
- 3:48Speaker 1: try and point the finger at this dude. It seems
- 3:51Speaker 1: like a waste of time if you ask me. Decorin
- 3:55Speaker 1: Gonsalves had been dating for five years when she broke
- 3:58Speaker 1: things off with him just three weeks before she was murdered.
- 4:02Speaker 1: And again, we heard all of this stuff and using
- 4:04Speaker 1: history as a guide, it certainly looked like Jack was
- 4:07Speaker 1: the one. So I could see how in the very beginning,
- 4:11Speaker 1: people could think that this kid was responsible for these
- 4:14Speaker 1: murders because all of the signs were pointing directly to
- 4:18Speaker 1: somebody that A, was close to them somebody that had
- 4:22Speaker 1: a grievance and somebody that was mad for some reason.
- 4:26Speaker 1: And he certainly ticked all of those categories off. Ex-boyfriend
- 4:30Speaker 1: just broken up three weeks ago. But he would be
- 4:33Speaker 1: the first person that the police looked into and he
- 4:36Speaker 1: would get the hardest look, in my opinion. And it
- 4:39Speaker 1: looks like that's what they did. Like he was the
- 4:41Speaker 1: first one they looked into and they ruled him out
- 4:43Speaker 1: pretty quickly. So I'm guessing he had a pretty strong alibi, folks. Obviously,
- 4:50Speaker 1: he was sad, but they were still friends, said the aunt,
- 4:53Speaker 1: who would only say that Gonsalves was planning on moving
- 4:56Speaker 1: away and their split was amiable. Decor, who was a
- 5:01Speaker 1: mechanical engineering major at the university, was initially considered a
- 5:05Speaker 1: person of interest in the November 13 murders of Gonsalves,
- 5:09Speaker 1: her two roommates, Madison Mogan and Zanna Kernodle, and Kernodle's boyfriend,
- 5:14Speaker 1: Ethan Chapin. Authorities said in the hours before their deaths,
- 5:18Speaker 1: Gonzalez and Mogan tried to call the Corps a total
- 5:21Speaker 1: of 10 times, but he didn't answer. So for me,
- 5:25Speaker 1: when I first saw all of this, I was pretty
- 5:28Speaker 1: much locked into the fact that this was going to
- 5:31Speaker 1: be it. They were going to be able to track
- 5:32Speaker 1: this down right away and there would be resolution. Boy,
- 5:37Speaker 1: was I off the mark. And it seems like a
- 5:41Speaker 1: lot of people who have been off the mark have
- 5:43Speaker 1: continued to stay over that target though. When the evidence
- 5:47Speaker 1: is provided, and we get, you know, an official statement
- 5:51Speaker 1: from the investigators that somebody has been ruled out, then
- 5:55Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, until something changes, that person
- 5:59Speaker 1: is ruled out. I'm not going to... Police in Moscow,
- 6:03Speaker 1: Idaho later said they'd looked into and cleared the phone calls,
- 6:07Speaker 1: and on November 23rd, declared Decor was no longer considered
- 6:11Speaker 1: a suspect. Detectives do not believe the mail Kaylee and
- 6:14Speaker 1: Madison attempted to contact numerous times, on November 13th, is
- 6:18Speaker 1: involved in this crime. Moscow police wrote on Facebook, and
- 6:22Speaker 1: they've been adamant in all of the updates they've done,
- 6:25Speaker 1: all of the press releases, it's been the same thing.
- 6:28Speaker 1: That this young man had nothing to do with it.
- 6:33Speaker 1: But many internet sleuths have pointed the finger at DeCore
- 6:36Speaker 1: as the killer anyway. In a YouTube video posted by
- 6:41Speaker 1: the Account Reporter Room on Thursday, host Jessica Ramos, Della
- 6:45Speaker 1: Davies pointed out to Cora's red flags in regards to
- 6:48Speaker 1: the case, noting that he and Gonsalves had recently broken
- 6:52Speaker 1: up and that the dog they bought as a couple
- 6:54Speaker 1: did not alert to an intruder and was not harmed. Look,
- 6:58Speaker 1: these are all red flags. There is no doubt about that.
- 7:01Speaker 1: And that's why initially I thought it was this kid
- 7:03Speaker 1: as well. But obviously the investigators have stuff that we
- 7:08Speaker 1: do not have. They have access to information, alibis. They've
- 7:11Speaker 1: interviewed these people. So what would make Jessica Della Davies
- 7:16Speaker 1: think that she knows better? After mentioning Gonsalves' plan to relocate,
- 7:24Speaker 1: Davies said, we all know the most dangerous time for
- 7:26Speaker 1: a woman is when she is trying to leave. Well,
- 7:30Speaker 1: she's not wrong about that. When women are trying to
- 7:32Speaker 1: leave a bad situation or a breakup in general, it's
- 7:35Speaker 1: definitely a dangerous time for them. They're just the most
- 7:39Speaker 1: ridiculous conspiracies, Miller said in response to the online claims
- 7:43Speaker 1: vilifying Decor. Gonsalves' mother, father, and sister have publicly stated
- 7:48Speaker 1: their support for Decor since her death. We all know,
- 7:52Speaker 1: beyond a shadow of a doubt, that there is no
- 7:54Speaker 1: way that Jack would ever do anything like this to anybody,
- 7:58Speaker 1: his aunt said. Decor now owns the fluffy golden pooch, Murphy,
- 8:04Speaker 1: whom he and Gonsalves had bought as a couple. The
- 8:07Speaker 1: dog who lived with Gonsalves was found unscathed at the
- 8:10Speaker 1: crime scene by police and initially turned over to animal services.
- 8:15Speaker 1: You know, people want to act like because the dog
- 8:18Speaker 1: wasn't hurt that it had to be somebody that they knew. Well,
- 8:22Speaker 1: that's not the case. Look at a guy like Tony Soprano,
- 8:25Speaker 1: for example. No problem killing humans, right? God forbid you
- 8:29Speaker 1: hurt an animal around the guy. There's people like that,
- 8:32Speaker 1: believe it or not, that have no problem killing human
- 8:35Speaker 1: beings but wouldn't hurt an animal. So I think that
- 8:39Speaker 1: we can throw out all of the things that we
- 8:41Speaker 1: expect in a case like this usually and understand right
- 8:45Speaker 1: off the bat that this is a unique case. And
- 8:49Speaker 1: I don't think precedent is going to serve us here.
- 8:54Speaker 1: DeCore is struggling at the thought of returning to the
- 8:58Speaker 1: University of Idaho. It's hard for him to think about
- 9:01Speaker 1: going back to Moscow because his life there was very
- 9:04Speaker 1: involved with Kaylee's, Miller said. Miller started a give send
- 9:09Speaker 1: go on December 6th with a goal of raising $ 20, 000
- 9:12Speaker 1: so that Kaylee's family will be able to hire a
- 9:15Speaker 1: private investigator, get expert legal advice, etc. She said so
- 9:20Speaker 1: far $ 17, 212 has been collected in donations. Six weeks after
- 9:27Speaker 1: the gruesome slayings, the Moscow Police Department still doesn't have
- 9:31Speaker 1: a suspect in the case. The very last thing that
- 9:34Speaker 1: this family wants to happen is for this to become
- 9:37Speaker 1: a cold case, Miller said. The Gonsalves family declined the
- 9:41Speaker 1: post request for comment. I don't blame them. Right around Christmas,
- 9:45Speaker 1: last thing they want to do is talk to the media.
- 9:47Speaker 1: But it's interesting to hear from Jack's aunt here, considering
- 9:52Speaker 1: all of the accusations that have been thrown at this dude.
- 9:55Speaker 1: And I think that it's important to follow the evidence
- 9:59Speaker 1: wherever it leads. And even if you're pigeonholed on a
- 10:03Speaker 1: suspect and the evidence decides to move away from there, well,
- 10:08Speaker 1: it's probably a good idea not to get caught up
- 10:11Speaker 1: and to stay in that bunker. And when the investigators
- 10:14Speaker 1: are saying that this kid is not involved, I have
- 10:17Speaker 1: to take them at their word. Obviously, if something changes,
- 10:21Speaker 1: we'll be adding it to the catalog. But as of now,
- 10:24Speaker 1: and from everything we know, this kid has nothing to
- 10:27Speaker 1: do with it and is just another bit of collateral damage.
- 10:32Speaker 1: All right, folks, that's going to do it for this one.
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