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Duncan Webb: Labour Regulation Spokesperson on the Regulatory Standards Bill passing its third reading at Parliament · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: Labour says it will repeal the Regulatory Standards Bill in
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  Speaker 1: its first one hundred days if elected next year. That
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  Speaker 1: is still a big if. At this point. The bill
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  Speaker 1: passed its third reading in the House last night, officially
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  Speaker 1: becomes Lord Duncan Webb's Labor's Regulation spokesperson. Good morning, good morning,
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  Speaker 1: good to be here, Good to have you on the show.
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  Speaker 1: And what is so Because these are a bunch of principles,
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  Speaker 1: they're not legally enforceable. What are you and nickers in
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  Speaker 1: such a big twist for.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the point is that this is the rules about
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  Speaker 2: how you make law, and so that affects all the
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  Speaker 2: law we make. And it's tilting the playing field. It's
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  Speaker 2: saying that every time you make a law, you've got
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  Speaker 2: to look at this list of principles and you've got
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  Speaker 2: to apply it. And someone sitting over in the corner
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  Speaker 2: this Regatary Standards Board is a referee and it's telling
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  Speaker 2: you off if you don't follow those particular rules. And
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  Speaker 2: the rules are not balanced, they are to righting.
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  Speaker 1: But the thing is, you guys had the well being
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  Speaker 1: budgets and you had the you know, you've got to
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  Speaker 1: tick this box and tick that box. What's I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is just a bit of it in the other direction,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, No, it's quite different because the well Being Budget
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  Speaker 2: was a set of principles around how you spend public funds.
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  Speaker 1: And this is a set of principles about how you
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  Speaker 1: make laws.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, making law is absolutely fundamental to how the society works.
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  Speaker 1: But they're not there. You can ignore them.
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  Speaker 2: But if you've got a set of principles that say
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  Speaker 2: you've got to make law that preserves private property but
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  Speaker 2: doesn't mention things like public health, the environment, or human rights,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to get private property promoted and help environment.
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  Speaker 2: Ignore them, duncan, Although that's not how it works. This
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  Speaker 2: is about how you make quality law. This is how
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  Speaker 2: public servants will develop policy. This is how people like
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  Speaker 2: it will be harder to make well, not impossible, but harder.
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  Speaker 2: Just like the Bill of Rights Act, which prevents, for example,
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  Speaker 2: the right from a legal search and seizure. The government
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  Speaker 2: can ignore it, but it does so add its peril.
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  Speaker 2: It's a political cost, even it's not a legal cost.
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  Speaker 1: The submissions on this, I mean, there were heaps of posed,
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  Speaker 1: but the submissions are different from public opinion. Is this
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  Speaker 1: I don't you guys are saying this is going to
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  Speaker 1: be done in a first one hundred days.
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  Speaker 2: Big deal.
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  Speaker 1: I've never heard anyone talking about it at a barbecue.
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  Speaker 2: Oh gee, you should come to my barbecue. Just all
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  Speaker 2: we talk about think you look, a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: are worried about it, though, and there are people who
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  Speaker 2: who are they. Oh look, a lot of the law Society,
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  Speaker 2: for example, was really the law of human rights. You
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  Speaker 2: go to the barbecues, the Human Rights Commission, the Children's Commissioner,
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  Speaker 2: all these people who aren't necessarily Labor party.
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  Speaker 1: Duncan, Are you leaving the party because you didn't get
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  Speaker 1: a wealth text?
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  Speaker 2: No, No, look I'm leaving the party because I'm want
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  Speaker 2: to do some more exciting things. But you know, talking
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  Speaker 2: about it's going to be good, it's good. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's a really good idea. I think so they didn't
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  Speaker 2: want more.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't want more, Duncan.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Look, I think I'm happy with where we've blended.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's achievable. It won't affect my Dix neuzialaders,
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  Speaker 2: but it will pay for some really great health services.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a great step forward.
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  Speaker 1: Dungan Webb from Labor For more.
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