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Bonus Episode - Rock 'n' Roll Movies, Music Headlines, and Buford Pusser · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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Speaker 1: just to touch, to get you through. Yeah, me too.
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Speaker 1: This is the podcast. It comes after the podcast. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full
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Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard, to dig
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Speaker 1: into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to
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Speaker 1: confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: we're talking about this week's full episode subject, Jimmy Buffett.
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Speaker 1: We are rewinding back to our Scott Wiland episode, dipping
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Speaker 1: back into the thirty six chambers, and we get into
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Speaker 1: your voicemails, text, dms, and as always, a whole lot
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Speaker 1: of rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed,
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Speaker 1: the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best
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Speaker 1: history is the history that gets buried. Disgrace Land is
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Speaker 1: where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the
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Speaker 1: kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, disc goes,
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Speaker 1: Let's get into it, all right? I am stoked to
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Speaker 1: be talking to you guys here in Jimmy Buffett Week.
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Speaker 1: Part of what drew me in so deeply to Jimmy's
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Speaker 1: story was when I was researching, I came across this
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Speaker 1: great film from nineteen seventy three called Tarpin Okay. It's
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Speaker 1: a movie about Key West Tarpin fishermen, many of whom
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Speaker 1: are Jimmy Buffett's friends. Jimmy actually scored the film. And
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Speaker 1: now this is long before Jimmy Buffett had anything resembling
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Speaker 1: a hit. It's just a bunch of dudes in Key West,
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Speaker 1: Florida and early seventies fishing for this very specific type
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Speaker 1: of fish in a very specific type of way. And
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Speaker 1: the characters range from the young wild literary crowd that
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Buffett was running with, Tom mcguain, Jim Harrison, Richard
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Speaker 1: Brodigan to old school Florida men of the sea. All
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Speaker 1: of them are badass in their own way. I know,
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Speaker 1: just you know, at face value, you're thinking Tarpin Fisherman.
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Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, badass in this movie. It looks
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Speaker 1: and it sounds incredible, And somehow this little documentary made
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Speaker 1: by Orson Wells's cinematographer by the way, God by the
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Speaker 1: name of Christian o'dasso and his brother in law Guie
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Speaker 1: de la Valdene. If I'm saying that correctly, this little
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Speaker 1: documentary about Fisherman is super rock and roll, It's unlikely
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Speaker 1: I know that a movie named after a fish, that
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Speaker 1: a movie about Fisherman with music by Jimmy Buffett is
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Speaker 1: rock and roll. But I'm telling you it is. You
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Speaker 1: just got to see it. Tarpin t r po N.
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Speaker 1: I found it on Apple. I think you can probably
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Speaker 1: find it on YouTube. Check that out. I'm not just
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Speaker 1: telling you this to tell you about a cool movie.
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you this because this whole thing i'd be
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Speaker 1: thinking about rock and roll movies in general, meaning what
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Speaker 1: movies are rock and roll?
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Speaker 2: Not?
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Speaker 1: What are the best music documentaries? Not, what are the
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Speaker 1: best music biopics? What are the best rock and roll movies?
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Speaker 1: I did a little research and Consequence ran an article
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Speaker 1: back in twenty eighteen that they've since updated a couple
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Speaker 1: of times. They say the following about the subject of
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Speaker 1: rock and roll movies. They say, I'd argue that it's
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Speaker 1: easier to identify a rock and roll movie than define one.
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Speaker 1: Looking through this list, there are docs and bio picks,
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Speaker 1: concert films and musicals, movies with flickmaking and generation defining soundtracks,
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Speaker 1: and films that don't seem to have very much to
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Speaker 1: do with music at all, and yet they all feel
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Speaker 1: like they should be categorized under the old devil horns.
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Speaker 1: In some way, they boast a common ethos, carry a
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Speaker 1: certain swagger, and feel rebellious in their own, often unlikely ways.
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Speaker 1: Tarpin has swagger, okay, and then some I can relate
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Speaker 1: to consequence here. I know what they mean when they say,
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Speaker 1: you know a rock and roll movie when you see it.
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Speaker 1: I don't think they said that directly, but that's essentially
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Speaker 1: what they said. It's true, you know they're I don't
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Speaker 1: want to burn my suggestions here, or nor do I
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Speaker 1: want to burn their list. They have a great list
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Speaker 1: of fifty rock and roll movies. I'm going to give
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Speaker 1: you the top ten because it's it's interesting. Number ten.
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Speaker 1: Wayne's World, Now, great movie. Just showed this movie to
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Speaker 1: my kids last weekend, to an eleven year old in
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Speaker 1: a seven year old. And if you have kids that
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Speaker 1: age and you're into music, and you're worried about what
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Speaker 1: your kids can consume and handle don't worry about Wayne's world.
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Speaker 1: The sex stuff is going to fly right their heads.
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Speaker 1: Number nine Dazed and Confused. Now, this one, for me
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Speaker 1: really hits the definition of a rock and roll movie.
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Speaker 1: It's not necessarily rock and roll or about rock and roll,
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Speaker 1: but it has rock and roll spirit at its core.
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Speaker 1: It's not, of course, it's not a documentary, it's not
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Speaker 1: about a band. Just Dazed and Confused. It's about as
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Speaker 1: rock and roll as it gets. Blues Brothers also nails
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Speaker 1: my definition of what a rock and roll movie is fantastic,
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Speaker 1: even though I guess you could call Blues Brothers a musical,
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Speaker 1: it's got rebellion at its core. These guys are about
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Speaker 1: as anti social as it gets fantastic. So I love
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Speaker 1: Blues Brothers here at eight. Number seven High Fidelity also
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Speaker 1: one of these movies I think a high fidelity guys
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Speaker 1: kind of off topic and it's one of those pieces
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Speaker 1: of media that I'm grateful I was alive at the
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Speaker 1: age I was when it came out, both the book
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Speaker 1: and the film. Just incredible storytelling, fantastic and yes, a
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Speaker 1: great rock roll movie. Number six They've got a concert
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Speaker 1: film here. Number six stop making sense by talking heads now,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have this on my
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Speaker 1: list of top ten, if I had a list of
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Speaker 1: top ten, I don't even know. Is it my favorite
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Speaker 1: concert film? I don't know. No, it's not. Is it
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Speaker 1: top ten? Probably? I don't know, Man, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna leave this one here. Number five, Okay,
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Speaker 1: The Graduate, I get it. I totally get it. Consequence
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Speaker 1: points out that this nineteen sixty seven film is one
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Speaker 1: of the earliest examples of a movie using pop songs
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Speaker 1: as its musical score, which is true. However, later on,
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Speaker 1: Zeth and I are going to give you our recommendations
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Speaker 1: for the greatest rock and roll movies, and I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: give you another movie from back in the day that
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Speaker 1: actually did what Consequence is saying The Graduate did so well,
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Speaker 1: that actually did it better right around the same time,
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Speaker 1: a little later, but right around the same time. At
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Speaker 1: least they did it in more of a rock and
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Speaker 1: roll way with this film that I'm gonna recommend. And
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Speaker 1: again that'll be an exclusive section of this episode for
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Speaker 1: Disgrace and All Access members. Seth and my recommendations on
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Speaker 1: great rock and roll movies. Number four from Consequence, Rocky
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Speaker 1: Horror Picture Show. Now I've never seen it, not my thing,
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Speaker 1: not a theater kid. No shade to anyone who has
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Speaker 1: seen it or is into this. I have fond memories
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Speaker 1: of being a teenager and marveling at the rocky horror
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Speaker 1: kids lined up outside the Harvard Square Movie Theater Brattle
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Speaker 1: Street Theater? Is that the ones that what it was called?
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Speaker 1: On Saturday nights? Saturdays or Fridays. I think it was Saturdays.
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Speaker 1: Waiting to see this movie. They showed it at midnight
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Speaker 1: every weekend. Pretty awesome. I get it. This movie was
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Speaker 1: a phenomenon. I totally get it. Number three, Almost Famous,
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Speaker 1: This one I wouldn't have on my list. Definitely wouldn't
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Speaker 1: have top ten. It's a little too on the nose. Okay,
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Speaker 1: it's just I mean, I get why it's here. But
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Speaker 1: if I was going to include a Cameron Crowe movie
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Speaker 1: that was rock and roll indicative of a rock and
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Speaker 1: roll film, I would include not almost Famous. I would
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Speaker 1: include Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Now, I know Cameron
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Speaker 1: cur didn't make that movie, but it's based on he
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Speaker 1: wrote the screenplay. Or it's either he wrote the screenplay
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Speaker 1: or it's based on an article he wrote for Playboy,
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Speaker 1: I can't remember, but either way, the soul of that
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Speaker 1: movie is Cameron Crowe. Number two. This is Spinal Tap.
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Speaker 1: Totally get it could make a case for number one
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Speaker 1: for this movie, even though it's a mockumentary. It's just
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Speaker 1: it stands alone and it's glory. It's so good. I
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Speaker 1: have not seen the new Spinal Tap yet. I'm waiting
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Speaker 1: to show my eleven year old and possibly my seven
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Speaker 1: year old the original before I see the sequel, and
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Speaker 1: I really hope the sequel doesn't suck. Let me know
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Speaker 1: if you guys have seen I know some of you
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Speaker 1: how but I want to hear from others who have
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Speaker 1: number one. And this is where Consequence goes off the
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Speaker 1: rail with this list. Number one. Purple Rain, come on.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Ah, this is tough. This is
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Speaker 1: really tough because Purple Rain is not a good movie,
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Speaker 1: never mind a good rock and roll movie. I love
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Speaker 1: Purple Rain, the album, I love Prince and I love
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Speaker 1: I Guess. If I'm scrolling the channels and Purple Rain
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Speaker 1: comes on, I'll stop for a couple of minutes and
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Speaker 1: watch it because it's fun to laugh at, but not
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Speaker 1: a good film anyways. Consequence missed a few others, one
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Speaker 1: in particular that is so perfect, so undeniably rock and roll,
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Speaker 1: that I couldn't believe it wasn't on this list, at
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Speaker 1: least not in the top ten. It's got everything, it's
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Speaker 1: good blood, it's got myths, it's got rebellion, it's pure rock,
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Speaker 1: pure rock and roll, I should say, pure rock and roll.
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Speaker 1: And Zeth and I are going to break down in
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Speaker 1: the exclusive section of this episode coming up, what that
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Speaker 1: movie is, why it's so great, along with some more
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Speaker 1: of our rock and roll film recommendations. But first, back
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Speaker 1: to Jimmy Buffett. If you listened to the g ME
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Speaker 1: Buffett episode that we just dropped in your feed, you
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Speaker 1: will have heard a bit about Jimmy and his publicist
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Speaker 1: being violently attacked by a man I called God's own Badass,
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Speaker 1: Beauford Pusser, who is one of the twentieth century America's
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Speaker 1: most legendary characters. Now I won't repeat myself, but Beauford
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Speaker 1: Pusser inspired numerous movies and television shows, most notably the
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Speaker 1: film Walking Tall Beeuford was a violent, vengeful fueled man
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Speaker 1: in real life whose goal was to avenge the murder
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Speaker 1: of his wife. Well, we recently learned, like a couple
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Speaker 1: days ago, as we're putting this episode together, actually, as
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Speaker 1: the episode was already put together and shipped, we learned
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Speaker 1: new evidence. We learned that new evidence this is how
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Speaker 1: they're terming it. We learned that new evidence suggests that
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Speaker 1: old Buford here was actually the one who killed his wife,
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Speaker 1: which is fucking wild when you think about it. This
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Speaker 1: dude built a myth around himself. He built himself into
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Speaker 1: legendary status as the guy who avenged his wife's death
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Speaker 1: and got to their killers, and it turns out he
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Speaker 1: was the killer. Okay, I'm still wrapping my head around this. Unbelievable, unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: There's a special section of hell for people like this.
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Speaker 1: It's like, how fucked up do you have to be
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Speaker 1: to carry on this lifelong charade and cash in on
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Speaker 1: it over and over and over again up until recently.
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Speaker 1: Unbelievable Anyway, my point, I guess one of my points
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Speaker 1: here is that this is just one more example of
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Speaker 1: just how many fascinating stories, specifically mythbusting stories exist in
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Speaker 1: relation to the artists that we talk about here every week.
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Speaker 1: It's too much, oftentimes too much to fit into our
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Speaker 1: thirty minute episodes. Quite literally, there is excess excess, and
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Speaker 1: we've got a pretty smart, fun way of dealing with
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Speaker 1: more on this soon. I'm excited for you to hear
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Speaker 1: the preservation of real music history storytelling. I'll be back
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Speaker 1: in a flash, and we'll hear from you guys with
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Speaker 1: your voicemails and texts. All right, guys, we're back. I
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Speaker 1: want to do something a little different here.
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Speaker 3: Right now.
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Speaker 1: Let's take a little cruise through the music headlines of
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Speaker 1: the day. Right now, If I go to Billboard dot com,
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Speaker 1: the headline is bad Bunny, Edgar Borera and Casrel and
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Speaker 1: Paco lead twenty twenty five Latin Grammy nominations full list.
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Speaker 1: I don't care about that one bit. No shade to
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Speaker 1: Latin music. It's just not a big, bad bunny or
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Speaker 1: whatever fan. No other headline. Cardi B reveals she's expecting
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Speaker 1: fourth child. That doesn't interest me all that much. Over
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Speaker 1: on Pitchfork Pitchfork dot Com, the headline says, why do
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Speaker 1: I keep getting mad at Coachella? What's wrong with me? Okay?
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Speaker 1: I can kind of get with that. I understand that,
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Speaker 1: And then there's something here about Nico Case getting better
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Speaker 1: with age, and I can get with that too. But
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Speaker 1: E's Jarvis winning the Polaris Music Prize in twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 1: I'm sad to say I don't know who Eas Jarvis is.
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Speaker 1: I probably should. There are some reviews of artists by
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Speaker 1: the names of Mark Williams, Lewis Bronto, and another thing
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Speaker 1: called Who's this guy? Mister ed Sheering heard of him?
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Speaker 1: Not interested? Rollingstone dot Com For cardib her life is
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Speaker 1: the album roll out again? Not that interesting. I'm not
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Speaker 1: that interested in Cardi B. Justin Bieber score seven figure
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Speaker 1: Coachella payday. He's fully in the driver's sept Good for
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Speaker 1: mister Bieber. I'm happy he's getting paid looks like he
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Speaker 1: could put a couple of shekels in the bank. But overall,
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Speaker 1: you know, this stuff, it just does not you know,
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Speaker 1: I look, I look every day. I don't I don't
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Speaker 1: actually go to the webs, but I do have Twitter notifications,
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Speaker 1: ex notifications, excuse me, that are almost entirely music based,
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Speaker 1: and little that is coming out of modern day music
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Speaker 1: is captivating me or holding my attention in a sense
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Speaker 1: that you guys are like me, and you feel that
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Speaker 1: today's music culture does not reflect the things that you
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Speaker 1: care about, And I'm just grateful. I'm grateful knowing that
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Speaker 1: I am not alone, and I want you guys to
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Speaker 1: know that you're not alone either. Obviously, this is why
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Speaker 1: disgrace that exists. In part, it's because music history is
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Speaker 1: far more entertaining and interesting than modern music. Music history
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Speaker 1: is dangerous, Modern music is safe. Music history is exciting.
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Speaker 1: Modern music bores the hell out of me for the
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Speaker 1: most part. And the music industry and Chasm and all
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Speaker 1: the rest they want to sanitize music history. They want
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Speaker 1: to keep it boring. This isn't an old guy thing either.
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Speaker 1: If you think it is, you know, whatever, that's your prerogative.
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Speaker 1: I could I just I'm just here to say things
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Speaker 1: are not as interesting as they were then. I was there,
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Speaker 1: so were most of you. We saw it happen, and
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Speaker 1: we knew then that what we were consuming. Yeah it
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Speaker 1: was Kurt Courtney, name it all, you know, Tupac, whoever
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Speaker 1: it was, right, we knew then that, yeah, things were good,
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Speaker 1: things were great. But twenty years prior to that, things
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Speaker 1: were also great. Thirty years prior to that, things were
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Speaker 1: also fucking unbelievably cool. I've always felt this way. This
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Speaker 1: is not new, this is not an old guy thing.
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Speaker 1: Even back when I was fifteen years old and reading
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Speaker 1: Rolling Stone, I felt that way. Even back when I
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Speaker 1: was fifteen years old and I was reading about the
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Speaker 1: Rolling Stones, I felt this way. Okay, music history has
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Speaker 1: always compelled me, and it still does, and I know
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Speaker 1: it does so for countless Disgrace and the listeners as well,
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Speaker 1: who are in the chat over with me and Patreon
17:55
Speaker 1: every week, obsessing over these stories and more on a
17:59
Speaker 1: daily basis pretty much which artist should we cover next
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Speaker 1: in Disgraceland. Which rock and roll locations have we yet
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Speaker 1: to visit in person but desperately want to. What are
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Speaker 1: our weekend music listening plans, what musical events shaped us
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Speaker 1: as kids, and most important, when exactly is the new
18:15
Speaker 1: season of Slow Horse is coming. Okay, that's not the
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Speaker 1: most important, but you get my point. These are the
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18:27
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Speaker 1: a couple weeks. All right, This week, as you know,
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Speaker 1: we've got a new episode on Jimmy Buffett in the
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Speaker 1: rewind slot. We're hitting our episode on Scott Wiland from
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Speaker 1: Stone Temple Pilots coming up next week, we're dipping back
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Speaker 1: into the Wu Tang story. Question of the week though,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ride this rock and roll movie topic because
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Speaker 1: I find it to be endlessly interesting. Lots of options here,
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Speaker 1: So question of the week, what are your favorite rock
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Speaker 1: and roll movies? I? Love this topic. I want to
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Speaker 1: keep discussing it with you, guys, So get at me
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Speaker 1: six one seven nine oh six six six three eight.
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Speaker 1: Let me know what your favorite rock and roll movies
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Speaker 1: are and why you think they're rock and roll? All right,
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Speaker 1: and if you want to hear mine and Zest's answers
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Speaker 1: to this question, our rock and Roll Cinema recommendations jump
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Speaker 1: into the exclusive section of this episode coming up shortly,
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Speaker 1: but for now, I'm in the phone booth. It's the
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Speaker 1: one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone with you, guys.
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Speaker 1: And last week's question of the Week, relevant to our
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Buffett episode was which musician or band did you
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Speaker 1: once despise that you now kind of love? Seven seven
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Speaker 1: five texts in Hey Jake, on the topic of artists
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Speaker 1: we used to hate but now can't get enough of.
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Speaker 1: I can't pinpoint a single artist, however, I used to
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Speaker 1: hate country music, but I find myself more off from
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Speaker 1: the not listening to country music these days. It started
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Speaker 1: with Dwight Yoakam and it just grew from there. Rock
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Speaker 1: a rolla listen, guys, get your country recommendations in for
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Speaker 1: the seven seventy five Let's turn him on or her.
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Speaker 1: I can't tell if this is a guy or a gal.
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Speaker 1: Let's turn him on to some great country music. Dwight
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Speaker 1: Yoakam's awesome, but there's a ton out there, especially the
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Speaker 1: classic honky tonk stuff in the fifties and the sixties.
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Speaker 1: Johnny Paycheck, George Jones, Merel Haggart, that's my Steeves, Moe Bandy.
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Speaker 1: Check that out, all right, Nathan text in from the
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Speaker 1: five to one two. I like your content and look
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Speaker 1: forward to more. Thank you for keeping it real deep
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Speaker 1: and just a bit dark. You got it, Nathan, We're
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Speaker 1: never gonna stop. Let's check out this voicemail from the
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Speaker 1: five oh five. The five oh five is calling us,
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Speaker 1: I believe real late at night or real early in
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Speaker 1: the morning. I can't tell. And the five oh five
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Speaker 1: takes a minute to get into his story, so just
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Speaker 1: bear with him. You're gonna want to hear the end.
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Speaker 1: It's worth it.
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Speaker 3: Heydrick, this is my all san fight, and I guess.
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Speaker 2: I'm a friend of a friend of a mother of
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Speaker 2: a son of a son of a sailor. Like I said,
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Speaker 2: it was a friend. It's just a cop. But anyway,
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Speaker 2: he told me about this cop. And I think it
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Speaker 2: was Alabama that pulled over this old, old beat up car,
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Speaker 2: you know, like broken tail, like bald tires, kind of
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Speaker 2: a mess of a car.
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Speaker 4: And this cop pulls this older lady over and asks
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Speaker 4: for the driver's license and she hands it to it
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Speaker 4: and the last name is Buffett, and the cop says,
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Speaker 4: excuse me, ma'am, but it wouldn't mean any relation to
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Speaker 4: Jimmy Buffet, would you, And she's like, yeah, I'm his mother.
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Speaker 4: He's like, really, do you have Jimmy's numbering your phone?
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Speaker 4: And she's like, yeah, of course, but could you give
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Speaker 4: him a call? And she's like yeah, sure.
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Speaker 3: She calls up Jimmy Buffett, hands the phone to the
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Speaker 3: cop and the cop says, Jimmy, you know you make
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Speaker 3: enough money. You need to really take care of your mother.
21:58
Speaker 3: You need to get her a new car. Because this
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Speaker 3: cut through all the problems with their moms with this
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Speaker 3: mom's card. So I thought it was pretty funny. Anyway,
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Speaker 3: Thanks for all you do.
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Speaker 4: We love you.
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Speaker 1: Six one seven nine six six six three eight. If
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Speaker 1: you guys want to get at me, voicemail and text
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Speaker 1: with anything question of the week or otherwise anything related
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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland anything related to great music. You can send
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Speaker 1: me a text, you can leave me a voicemail. You
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Speaker 1: can also email me disgracelamdpod at gmail dot com. Tammy
22:28
Speaker 1: r Odell writes, Hey, Jake and Zeth, I'm a longtime
22:31
Speaker 1: listener in first time contributor. I love podcasts, and I
22:35
Speaker 1: appreciate all the research you and your team and your
22:38
Speaker 1: dad puts into these shows. I too, am a true
22:42
Speaker 1: generation X Vinyl playing cassette, loving recording from radio. Give
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Speaker 1: me any kind of music except bluegrass kind of gal. Additionally,
22:49
Speaker 1: I'm a Tennessee native. I'm still here, so of course
22:52
Speaker 1: I zeroed in when you mentioned another past Tennessee resident,
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Speaker 1: Bewford Pusser in the latest episode featuring Jimmy Buffer love
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Speaker 1: his music. Also, while while Pusser lived in West Tennessee,
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Speaker 1: I hail from Middle Tennessee, the nine three one, as
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Speaker 1: close to East Tennessee as you can get. I'm about
23:08
Speaker 1: a four and a half ride away from McNairy County. However,
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Speaker 1: I had relatives that lived very close to Addamsville, so
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Speaker 1: we heard these stories quite often. I grew up hearing
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Speaker 1: all the Buford Pusser adventures watching the movies, and, like
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Speaker 1: many Tennessee citizens, felt as if he was a small
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Speaker 1: town hero for cleaning up McNairy County as he did.
23:29
Speaker 1: Imagine my surprise when a scant few weeks ago I
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Speaker 1: spot a news story online regarding a Tennessee Bureau of
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Speaker 1: Investigation's press conference that had just taken place in the
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Speaker 1: subject the results of the investigation into the death of
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Speaker 1: Pauline Pusser Puser can narona fucking pronounce this Buford's wife,
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Speaker 1: who had been killed in an ambush in nineteen sixty seven.
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Speaker 1: Who was responsible? Asked I? Well, per the Tennessee Bureau
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Speaker 1: of Investigation, it was Beauford Pusser himself. I dove headfirst
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Speaker 1: in a row reading all about this. Yes, per the TBI,
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Speaker 1: the ambush didn't happen or definitely did not happen the
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Speaker 1: way Beuford described it, And after going back through case
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Speaker 1: files and exhuming Beuford's wife's body for another examination, the
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Speaker 1: investigators determined there was enough evidence that there was no
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Speaker 1: question Beauford Pusser killed his wife that day. The reactions
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Speaker 1: I have read online have been all over the place.
24:23
Speaker 1: It's crazy time, folks. I'm including a link to the
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Speaker 1: press conference. I know this story wouldn't fit on Disgrace Lamb,
24:29
Speaker 1: but in a slight way, it might fit on Hollywood Land.
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Speaker 1: The day he died, per rumor, he had agreed to
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Speaker 1: play himself in the second Walking Tall movie. It is
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Speaker 1: a truly fascinating tale. Thanks guys for the many hours
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Speaker 1: of listening you have provided me, Tammy. Thank you for
24:43
Speaker 1: the great email, and thank you for summarizing this incredible
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Speaker 1: story that's really developed. It developed over the last couple
24:49
Speaker 1: of weeks relevant to our Jimmy Buffett episode. Here just
24:52
Speaker 1: I'm flabbergasted. I you know, like this is we need
24:57
Speaker 1: a new movie. Now we another view for Fuser movie
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Speaker 1: Pluser whatever the fuck the guy's name is pronounced. Has
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Speaker 1: we need another one of these movies? It tells the
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Speaker 1: real story, shit, Tammy, Maybe you can write it all
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Speaker 1: right six one seven nine oh six six six three
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Speaker 1: eight You guys want to hook me up voicemail and text.
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Speaker 1: I'll be back after this. Hollywood lost a legend this
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Speaker 1: week with the passing of Robert Redford. Zeth Lundy has
25:37
Speaker 1: a great tribute to Sundance kid Over in the Hollywood
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Speaker 1: Rap Party episode this week, check that out. If you
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Speaker 1: haven't already, here's a little taste.
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Speaker 5: My personal history with Robert Edford in his movies is
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Speaker 5: that they represented for me an introduction to more sophisticated cinema,
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Speaker 5: that big step from the kinds of things I watch
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Speaker 5: as a kid, which primarily was like The Muppet Show
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Speaker 5: NonStop into a more adult world. And in particular The Sting,
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Speaker 5: the George roy Hill movie from nineteen seventy three co
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Speaker 5: starring Paul Newman, that played a huge role in my
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Speaker 5: life when it came to that sort of leveling up
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Speaker 5: as to the sorts of thing as I was watching.
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Speaker 5: This was another one of my grandmother's favorite movies. I've
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Speaker 5: talked about this before, and you know, I don't think
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Speaker 5: I give her enough credit when it comes to cementing
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Speaker 5: my love of cinema from a really early age. I'm
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Speaker 5: realizing through recording these rep party episodes that a lot
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Speaker 5: of these major milestones in my personal movie viewing history
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Speaker 5: were nights when I watched movies with my grandmother. But anyways,
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Speaker 5: that's a whole other thing I need to explore.
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Speaker 1: All right, if you want to hear Zeth and I
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Speaker 1: talking about some movie res that are rock and roll
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Speaker 1: come at these topics from different angles, but the chemulative
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Speaker 1: list that we've put together here about undeniably great rock
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Speaker 1: and roll movies surprise even me. One movie in particular,
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Speaker 1: I think changed the way that we all watch movies.
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Speaker 1: And here's a short clip, you know, the conversation between
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Speaker 1: Zeth and I that you may be missing out on
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Speaker 1: by not being an All Access member. My second recommendation
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Speaker 1: for rock and roll movie mean Streets, also from nineteen
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Speaker 1: seventy three.
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Speaker 5: I almost included this.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought, I thought you were and I also thought,
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Speaker 1: you know, and he'll be smart enough to know I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna include this here on to.
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Speaker 5: I think I subconsciously I thought that, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Okay, here's why a lot of people correctly attribute The
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Speaker 1: Graduate as the film that changed the game for music
27:54
Speaker 1: in movies in cinema Graduates nineteen sixty nine, sixty eight,
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Speaker 1: something like that. So it's it's before Mean Streets. And
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Speaker 1: what the Graduate did was it used pop music as score.
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Speaker 1: It used pop music in a way that hadn't been
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Speaker 1: used really in film before that. It used pop music
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Speaker 1: to run the emotion through the writing and the acting
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Speaker 1: to the listener in the same way that's scoring doesn't.
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Speaker 1: And it's hard one another one of those things. It's
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Speaker 1: hard to think about now to think of a time
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Speaker 1: before that in movies where where songs weren't used to
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Speaker 1: make you feel something, where it was just score, unless
28:31
Speaker 1: you're talking about musicals, but those are almost a different medium.
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Speaker 1: So the Graduate did it first. But it's like saying,
28:37
Speaker 1: you know, I Turner did rock and roll first before Elvis.
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Speaker 1: Mean Streets is more like the Elvis version of what
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Speaker 1: the Graduate was doing. Elvis is a bad analogy because
28:47
Speaker 1: Mean Streets is so grittier and more rocky. I know,
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Speaker 1: that's my point. Yeah, you know what I mean. And
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Speaker 1: it just like I don't care, man, you see Dniro
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Speaker 1: walking into that bar, jumping jack flash and it's it's
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Speaker 1: it's like I'd never seen anything like that in my life.
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Speaker 1: It still gives me chills. It gives me chills even
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Speaker 1: just thinking about it. All right, guys, while those of
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29:47
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Speaker 1: for an early playoff exit. I fear the Patriots are
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Speaker 1: barely even a professional football team at this point. And yeah,
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Speaker 1: root for the Florida Gators? The Fighting Irish? What even
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Speaker 1: is a college football division? Why are their college football
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Speaker 1: team rankings? Who ranks the teams? Doesn't this seem a
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Speaker 1: welcome back. I'm about to take off, guys, real quick.
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Speaker 1: If you listen to this episode, which you did because
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Speaker 1: you're here about twenty thirty minutes into it. We talked
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Speaker 1: about the Rolling Stones, we talked about talking Heads, we
31:44
Speaker 1: talked about Prince. We have episodes on all of those
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Speaker 1: artists in our archive of now two hundred and fifty episodes.
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Speaker 1: That's right. We hit two hundred and fifty full episodes
31:57
Speaker 1: of Disgrace Slam this week with our Jimmy Buffett story.
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Speaker 1: Get in there, guys. There's a lot for you to
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Speaker 1: listen to, and if you have questions, hit me up
32:04
Speaker 1: and let me know if you want. You want some
32:05
Speaker 1: help navigating around to find your favorite artists and artists
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Speaker 1: you might have from a different genre of music. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I was talking to this guy yesterday. I was filming
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Speaker 1: this thing and as a promo thing, and I was
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Speaker 1: talking to the director who was shooting it, and he
32:18
Speaker 1: was going on and on about how much he loved Disgraceland,
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Speaker 1: and he was telling me about specific episodes. He's listened
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Speaker 1: to the writings, like specific pieces of writing that we've done,
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Speaker 1: and he clearly had listened a lot to a lot
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Speaker 1: of stuff. And he was like, man, I got it,
32:33
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you know, like just uh, why
32:36
Speaker 1: don't you do a Grateful Dead episode? Or he said
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Speaker 1: something like that, like, my man, we have two. So
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Speaker 1: my point is you may think you're well versed in
32:44
Speaker 1: what's in the Disgraceland archive, but we have so much.
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Speaker 1: So if you have a question about an artist, hit
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Speaker 1: me up six one seven, nine oh six sixty sixty
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Speaker 1: three eight, voicemail, text at Disgraceland pod on the socials.
32:57
Speaker 1: Easier to get in touch with me over in the
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Speaker 1: Patreon chat or text or voicemail. But I'm around and
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Speaker 1: easy to get at and I can point you in
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Speaker 1: the right direction. All right, let's recap Shallow We number one.
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Speaker 1: This week's full episode on Jimmy Buffett is available for
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Speaker 1: you to listen to right now, number two, we are
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Speaker 1: rewinding with Scott Wiland from the Stone Temple pilots in
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Speaker 1: the rewind slot coming up right after this episode. Then
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Speaker 1: next week we dip back into the Wu Tang thirty
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Speaker 1: six Chambers, number four on Hollywood Land. Right now, Johnny
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Speaker 1: Depp five six one seven, nine oh six six sixty
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Speaker 1: three eight. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark
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Speaker 1: corners of music history. So keep calling, keep texting, keep
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Speaker 1: giving us something to talk about. I appreciate hearing from
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Speaker 1: you every single week. Number six, Do not forget this goes.
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Speaker 1: This isn't just content, it's community, a community of the obsessed.
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Speaker 1: And no one cares about music, books, records in the
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Speaker 1: crime and grime that ties them all together like you do.
33:48
Speaker 1: And well that's a disgrace, all right. On February fourteenth,
33:52
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven, Jimmy Buffett released the song Margaritaville and
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Speaker 1: nothing would be the same in Key West, Florida ever again.
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Speaker 1: And here's what America was listening to on that day
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Speaker 1: according to the Billboard Charts, Number one, Torn between two
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Speaker 1: Lovers Mary McGregor last week one peak position one weeks
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Speaker 1: on Chart thirteen Number two New Kidden Down Eagles last
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Speaker 1: week four peak position two weeks on charts. Weeks nine,
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Speaker 1: Number three Number Blinded by the light Man for Man's
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Speaker 1: earth Band last week six peak positions three weeks weeks
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Speaker 1: on charts, thirteen weeks.
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Speaker 6: Number number four car Rose Royce last week shoes peak
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Speaker 6: position one weeks on charts seventeen Number five Ever.
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Speaker 1: Love Stars quit talking and start mixing.