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- 0:00Imagine your doctor writes you a prescription.
- 0:02OK, but instead of milligrams and medication names, he writes
- 0:06down the precise number of palm trees at a desert Oasis.
- 0:10Right, that would be concerning. And then he tells you to pay
- 0:13very close attention to a worm eating a vine.
- 0:15Yeah, you would think the man had completely lost his mind.
- 0:18You would, But for ancient readers of the Hebrew
- 0:21Scriptures, this was well, precisely how the most critical
- 0:26instructions in the universe were delivered.
- 0:28It is a completely different way of communicating.
- 0:30It really is welcome to reform thinking.
- 0:32I am your host, and today we are looking through a very specific
- 0:36lens at texts that baffle modern minds.
- 0:39Because when we sit down with an instruction manual today, or,
- 0:42you know, a history textbook, we expect literal precision.
- 0:46Right. A bolt is a bolt.
- 0:47A date is a date. Yeah, the author includes a
- 0:50detail for one reason alone, which is literal function.
- 0:53But that is an entirely modern post enlightenment expectation,
- 0:56isn't it? It is.
- 0:57We crave this, this one to one ratio of word to literal
- 1:02meaning. It feels clean, It feels binary
- 1:05and safe. Yeah, we want reality
- 1:07categorized and labeled. Right.
- 1:09And entirely visible on the surface.
- 1:11But applying that mindset to ancient Hebrew texts is, I mean,
- 1:16it's like trying to measure the temperature of a room with a
- 1:18tape measure. You are just using the wrong
- 1:20tool for the environment. Precisely.
- 1:22And that is the friction we are tackling today.
- 1:24You step into the world of these ancient scriptures and that
- 1:28modern instruction manual framework just shatters.
- 1:31It really does. You read the accounts and you
- 1:33have to start asking questions. Like why do we need the
- 1:35landscaping inventory of a specific Oasis, right?
- 1:38Or why document the exact waste attire of a desert prophet?
- 1:43Or the architectural measurements of a bronze washing
- 1:46basin. Yeah, all those tedious details.
- 1:48So today our mission is to dig into the writings of Jonathan
- 1:52Edwards. He was an 18th century
- 1:54theologian and we are looking specifically at his notes on the
- 1:57types of the Messiah. It is a fascinating subject.
- 2:00We're going to uncover how ancient historical events, these
- 2:03bizarre physical rituals, and the detailed biographies of key
- 2:07figures were sovereignly orchestrated to foreshadow 1
- 2:10central figure. And Jonathan Edwards is just a
- 2:13fantastic guide for this. He really is.
- 2:15You have to remember he lived during the height of the
- 2:17Enlightenment, so he was surrounded by thinkers who were
- 2:21increasingly viewing the universe as like a cold
- 2:25mechanical clock. Right.
- 2:26Very rational, very literal. Yeah, and Edwards pushed back
- 2:29violently against that. He argued for a paradigm where
- 2:32reality itself is divided into two distinct parts.
- 2:35OK, a physical shadow and a spiritual substance.
- 2:39So in his view, the material world, like all of human history
- 2:44and physical objects, was engineered from the very
- 2:47beginning to mirror a higher eternal reality.
- 2:50Yes. But before we get into the
- 2:52historical examples, let's ground that concept a bit.
- 2:55Let's do it. Edwards actually starts his
- 2:56argument by analyzing human psychology.
- 2:58OK, how so? Well, he points out that human
- 3:01beings have this built in delight for imitative arts.
- 3:04Like poetry and fables? Right metaphorical language
- 3:07theater. We do not just tolerate symbols,
- 3:09we crave them. That is so true.
- 3:11I mean, you see this with kids all the time.
- 3:13Oh, absolutely, he notes. This disposition is obvious from
- 3:16early childhood. Children naturally gravitate
- 3:19towards symbolic play. Yeah, a child learns morality
- 3:22much faster through a story about a talking lion than
- 3:26through, you know, a philosophical lecture on virtue.
- 3:28Precisely. And because human nature is
- 3:31wired this way, communicating truth through physical symbols,
- 3:34what Edwards calls types, is an incredibly effective method of
- 3:38instruction. It bypasses the abstract
- 3:40completely. It does.
- 3:41It hits the senses. It conveys truth with a unique
- 3:44blend of conviction and pleasure.
- 3:47And it acts as a massive aid to human memory, too.
- 3:49I mean, we remember a vivid, weird story much longer than a
- 3:53list of moral propositions. And we really do.
- 3:55So how does Edwards apply this psychology to the physical
- 3:58universe? This is where he lays out his
- 4:00grand thesis of the two worlds. This is the core of his entire
- 4:04framework. Edwards divides the system of
- 4:06created beings into two categories.
- 4:08You have the typical world and the anti typical world.
- 4:10OK, let's break those down. The typical world is our
- 4:13physical universe. He describes it as inferior,
- 4:16external and transitory. And the anti typical world.
- 4:19That is the superior, spiritual, perfect and durable reality.
- 4:24The material world is just a physical model of the moral and
- 4:28spiritual world. I want to make sure we are not
- 4:30getting lost in like 18th century academic language here.
- 4:35If I am understanding this, the typical world is kind of like an
- 4:39architect's crude cardboard model.
- 4:41Oh, that is a great way to think about it.
- 4:43Like it is made of cheap temporary materials, you would
- 4:46never want to actually live inside the cardboard model.
- 4:48Right. It wouldn't offer much
- 4:49protection. Yeah, but the anti typical world
- 4:52is the Finnish skyscraper, the one made of steel and glass.
- 4:56The cardboard model only exists to give you a spatial
- 4:59understanding of the real building that is coming.
- 5:02That is an excellent analogy. The cardboard is entirely
- 5:05subservient to the steel. The physical world exists to
- 5:08teach us about the spiritual one.
- 5:10I have to push back here though. OK, go ahead.
- 5:12Is this just humans retrofitting meaning onto random events?
- 5:16Like seeing shapes in the clouds.
- 5:18Yeah, exactly. We look at a cloud and say, oh,
- 5:20that looks like a lion, but the cloud is just water vapor
- 5:23shifting in the wind. Are we taking ancient historical
- 5:27events and retroactively deciding they look like the
- 5:31Messiah just because we want them to?
- 5:33That is the immediate skeptical response, and it is a completely
- 5:36fair 1. It seems like the most logical
- 5:38objection. It does, but Edwards argues from
- 5:41the source material that this is not human beings reading meaning
- 5:44into random events. This was a divine method
- 5:48instituted from the beginning of creation.
- 5:50So the physical world is the actual cloud, and the creator
- 5:53shaped the vapor intentionally to look like the lion.
- 5:56Yes, Edwards brings in some really fascinating historical
- 5:59context to back this up, actually.
- 6:01What kind of context? Well, he points out that ancient
- 6:03wise men across different cultures and even the creators
- 6:06of Egyptian hieroglyphics derive their use of sacred symbols from
- 6:10an original tradition of divine inspiration.
- 6:12But. He argues that the reason
- 6:14ancient Eastern nations used enigmas and hieroglyphics to
- 6:18represent their gods was an imitation of the true prophets.
- 6:21Precisely delivering wisdom through allegorical and symbolic
- 6:26representation was the gold standard in the ancient Near
- 6:29East. Edwards anchors this in the
- 6:32biblical text itself. He cites the book of Proverbs
- 6:35where Solomon speaks of understanding the words of the
- 6:38wise and their dark sayings. So the physical world was always
- 6:42intended to function as a language.
- 6:43Yes, and the Pagan cultures simply borrowed the grammar of
- 6:47that language for their own pantheons.
- 6:49OK, so we have talked about how God uses the passive natural
- 6:52world, the cardboard model so to speak, to send a message.
- 6:57If the physical world is a language, then historical events
- 7:00are not just random dates on a timeline.
- 7:01No, they're not. They are arranged by special
- 7:04Providence to act as physical prophecies.
- 7:07Let's dig into the story of Jacob and Esau to see how this
- 7:09works in practice. OK, so the historical account
- 7:12describes these twin brothers struggling in the womb, right?
- 7:16And when they are born, Jacob's hand is physically grasping
- 7:19Esau's heel. On a purely literal level, it is
- 7:22just a stressful detail of a complicated birth.
- 7:25But Edwards points out that this specific biology was ordered by
- 7:28special Providence to prefigure a massive spiritual reality.
- 7:33Which was what? Well, it typified the future
- 7:36political struggle between the nations of Israel and Edom, but
- 7:39beyond that, it foreshadowed the spiritual wrestling of God's
- 7:42people. So Jacob taking the heel and
- 7:44supplanting his older brother was a physical flesh and blood
- 7:47prophecy. Yes, of the future triumph of
- 7:50the righteous over their enemies.
- 7:52And later in life, Jacob physically wrestled with a
- 7:55divine figure in the desert until his hip is dislocated.
- 7:58Right. Which types the intense,
- 8:00agonizing spiritual wrestlings of believers prevailing failing
- 8:04with God in prayer? The physical strain teaches the
- 8:07spiritual posture. Spot on.
- 8:09I'm fascinated by the story of Moses in this context too.
- 8:12We all know the basic narrative. Yeah, a helpless infant is
- 8:15placed in a papyrus basket in the Nile River to save him from
- 8:18execution by the pharaoh. Right.
- 8:20And he is drawn out of the water by Pharaoh's own daughter.
- 8:23It is highly cinematic. Very cinematic, yes, but look at
- 8:26the typical architecture underneath the story.
- 8:28Moses, being wonderfully preserved in the midst of great
- 8:31waters as a helpless infant, prefigures his his entire life's
- 8:35calling. Because he was drawn out of the
- 8:37literal water so that he could, decades later, draw the helpless
- 8:41nation of Israel out of the great waters of Egyptian
- 8:44affliction. Exactly in the poetic language
- 8:47of the Hebrew Scriptures, being delivered from cruel enemies is
- 8:50repeatedly described as being drawn out of many waters, or,
- 8:53you know, saved from the floods. So the physical event of the
- 8:57baby in the river was a micro model of the salvation of an
- 9:01entire nation from the overwhelming flood of Egyptian
- 9:04bondage. Yes, and the wording itself
- 9:06gives it away. The name Moses literally means
- 9:08drawn out. The history and the linguistics
- 9:11are completely unified. That is mind blowing and it
- 9:14makes sense of the desert wandering accounts too.
- 9:16How so? Well, the Israelites are moving
- 9:18through the Sinai Peninsula and they camp at an Oasis called
- 9:21Elam. Oh.
- 9:22Right. The text stops the narrative
- 9:24completely to specify that there were 12 fountains of water and
- 9:2770 palm trees there. Yeah, as a modern reader, I
- 9:30always skimmed right past that. I do not care about the
- 9:33landscaping, you know. Because you are reading it like
- 9:35a textbook, not looking at a cardboard model.
- 9:38Right, So what does the model mean?
- 9:39The 12 fountains perfectly mirror the 12 patriarchs, the
- 9:42original fathers of the tribes of Israel.
- 9:45Oh, In ancient texts, the paternity or source of a family
- 9:48is often called a fountain. And the 70 palm trees.
- 9:51Those mirror the 70 elders of the congregation appointed to
- 9:55lead the people. God's people are frequently
- 9:57compared to trees, flourishing, providing shade, rooted by
- 10:01water. So God orchestrated the literal
- 10:03geography of that desert Oasis to reflect the organizational
- 10:07structure of his people. Yes, the Oasis was a physical
- 10:11mirror of the camp sitting right next to it.
- 10:13Let's spend some time on a genuinely bizarre narrative from
- 10:17the text. I want to talk about Jonah's
- 10:19gourd. Yeah, OK.
- 10:19This is a great one. Jonah is sitting outside the
- 10:22city of Nineveh. He has just preached a message
- 10:25of doom and he is waiting on a hill to see if God will drop
- 10:28fire on the city. Right.
- 10:30He wants to see them destroyed. Yeah, and God causes a plant, a
- 10:34gourd to grow up over Jonah in a single night to provide shade
- 10:38from the brutal Middle Eastern sun.
- 10:40Jonah's thrilled. Airy thrilled.
- 10:41Then at dawn, God sends a single worm to attack the root of the
- 10:45plant and it Withers and dies in a day, and Jonah just loses his
- 10:50mind with anger over this dead plant.
- 10:52Edwards breaks down the symbolism of this entire
- 10:55sequence with incredible precision.
- 10:57Walk me through it. Start with the plant itself.
- 10:59It is a feeble, tender, dependent vine.
- 11:02It cannot stand on its own structure.
- 11:04It has to climb. It's brings up suddenly looks
- 11:08green and flourishing for a few hours and then dries up into
- 11:11dust. Which represents.
- 11:12This is a direct physical representation of the brief,
- 11:15fragile life of man. As the Psalms described, man is
- 11:18like grass that flourishes in the morning and is cut down in
- 11:21the evening. Which brings us to the worm.
- 11:23Why a worm? Why not a strong wind or a wild
- 11:26animal tearing up the vine? Because the worm represents the
- 11:29cause of man's death, it is a tiny, seemingly insignificant
- 11:32thing. And notice its operational
- 11:35tactic. It approaches underground,
- 11:37completely unseen. Wow, that is dark.
- 11:40Man does not know his time. Death approaches like a worm at
- 11:43the root, out of sight, suddenly striking the vital core.
- 11:47And Jonah is just sitting there, enjoying the temporary comfort
- 11:50of this fragile life, entirely unaware of the unseen killer
- 11:54working at the root. Right, and the logic trap God
- 11:57sets here is brilliant. Because Jonah pitied the gourd.
- 12:01Because it shielded him from the scorching heat.
- 12:03Yes, God uses this physical scenario to corner Jonah in his
- 12:07own hypocrisy. By asking why he lacked pity for
- 12:11the hundreds of thousands of lives in Nineveh.
- 12:13Precisely. God was shielding those people
- 12:16from divine wrath, just as the plant shielded Jonah from the
- 12:18sun. It is a masterful use of a
- 12:21physical type to force a moral revelation.
- 12:24It really is if you have ever had the rug pulled out from
- 12:26under you. A job lost, a sudden illness, a
- 12:29comfort removed without warning. It changes your perspective
- 12:32entirely if you view it through this lens.
- 12:34You stop asking just why did this happen to me?
- 12:36Right, and start asking what broader reality is being
- 12:39communicated through this loss. Every physical shift might be
- 12:42speaking a spiritual language if you know how to listen.
- 12:45So we have talked about how God uses the passive natural world
- 12:49like an Oasis or a plant to send a message.
- 12:51Yes, but it gets much weirder when he forces humans to become
- 12:56the physical symbols themselves. Oh, absolutely.
- 12:58Let's look at the prophets. They did not just stand on
- 13:01platforms and give polished lectures.
- 13:02No, they acted out the future in strange, highly public,
- 13:07agonizing physical displays. They were commanded to embody
- 13:11the message with their own flesh.
- 13:13Isaiah is a prime example of this.
- 13:15He is by direct divine appointment.
- 13:17He walked completely naked and barefoot for three years.
- 13:20Three years in an ancient Near Eastern culture where honor and
- 13:25shame were everything, public nakedness was the ultimate
- 13:27degradation. It was excruciating for him.
- 13:30That is not just a quirky object lesson.
- 13:32That is social suicide. It was, but he did it to signify
- 13:37and physically prefigure the coming captivity of Egypt and
- 13:41Ethiopia. He was a living, breathing
- 13:44demonstration of how those nations would be LED away as
- 13:46prisoners of war, stripped naked and ashamed by the Assyrians.
- 13:50He became a walking symbol of absolute vulnerability and
- 13:53judgement, and contrast that with Jeremiah.
- 13:56He takes a linen girdle piece of undergarment and travels for
- 14:00miles to the river Euphrates just to hide it in a hole in a
- 14:03rock. Days later he walks all the way
- 14:06back to retrieve it and it is completely ruined from the
- 14:09moisture and dirt. And on another occasion, he
- 14:12breaks an expensive Potter's vessel into pieces in front of
- 14:15the city leaders. He literally constructs heavy
- 14:18wooden yolks, the kind you put on oxen, and wears them on his
- 14:21own neck, walking through the bustling city streets to
- 14:24demonstrate the impending political bondage of the king of
- 14:28Babylon. Ezekiel's actions might be the
- 14:30most extreme on record, though. Yeah, let's talk about Ezekiel.
- 14:33He is commanded to eat a scroll covered in writing.
- 14:37He lies immobile on his side for over a year to represent the
- 14:40length of the siege of Jerusalem over a year, and he shaves his
- 14:45head and his beard with a sharp sword.
- 14:47He burns 1/3 of the hair in a fire, chops 1/3 with a knife and
- 14:51scatters the final third to the wind.
- 14:54The physical toll of lying on your side for a year is hard to
- 14:56fathom. Muscle atrophy.
- 14:58Bed sores. But the emotional toll is even
- 15:00worse. Yeah, I was totally thrown off
- 15:02by the example of Ezekiel's wife.
- 15:04It is a devastating passage. Ezekiel's wife, whom the text
- 15:07calls the delight of his eyes, dies suddenly.
- 15:11And God explicitly commands Ezekiel not to shed a single
- 15:14tear, not to weep, and to show absolutely none of the
- 15:17conventional cultural signs of mourning.
- 15:19Right. He is forbidden from grieving
- 15:21his own wife to represent a horrifying future reality.
- 15:25Because the people of Jerusalem were going to be so consumed by
- 15:28the coming slaughter and judgment that they would be
- 15:30completely paralyzed. Yes, they would not even have
- 15:32the capacity to mourn the destruction of their beloved
- 15:35temple or their own families. Ezekiel's suppressed grief was a
- 15:39mirror for a nation's impending shock.
- 15:41Then you have Hosea, who is commanded to marry a woman known
- 15:44for unfaithfulness, A wife of whoredom.
- 15:47He has children with her, she leaves him for other lovers, and
- 15:50he's commanded to go buy her back.
- 15:53He physically acts out God's relationship with an unfaithful,
- 15:56idolatrous nation. It's heavily visual.
- 15:59My question is, how did observers in that era process
- 16:03these actions? What do you mean?
- 16:04Well, if I saw someone walking around my neighborhood wearing a
- 16:07wooden yoke or shaving their head with a sword in the town
- 16:10square, I've called the authorities.
- 16:12Right, you'd be worried for them.
- 16:13I would assume they were suffering a severe mental health
- 16:16crisis. Was this just seen as madness by
- 16:18their contemporaries? It was absolutely recognized as
- 16:21a legitimate, albeit intense, language.
- 16:25The source material explains that these actions were
- 16:27understood culturally as parables or dark sayings.
- 16:31OK, so the society expected divine instructions to be
- 16:34delivered in symbols and emblems.
- 16:36Yes, it was so common for genuine prophets to typify their
- 16:40prophecies through physical action that the false prophets
- 16:43actually copied the behavior. Oh right, the source mentions
- 16:46false prophets putting on iron horns.
- 16:48Exactly. The false prophets used physical
- 16:52symbolic action like wearing horns to symbolize military
- 16:55pushing and victory because they knew it was the expected medium
- 16:59of divine revelation. So if you wanted the public to
- 17:02believe you're a legitimate mouthpiece for the divine, you
- 17:05had to act in this symbolic manner.
- 17:07The physical action carried a weight of visceral certainty
- 17:10that spoken words alone simply lacked.
- 17:13Let's scale this up a bit. We are zooming out from
- 17:16individual bizarre actions to massive civilization altering
- 17:21events, OK Edwards argues that these historical mega events
- 17:26functioned as blueprints or models for final salvation and
- 17:29final judgement. The History of the Deluge The
- 17:32global flood is presented as a macro model of the future
- 17:36destruction of all wicked rebellion.
- 17:38Because the ancient world was destroyed by a dreadful Tempest.
- 17:41Right, and the source connects this to descriptions in Job and
- 17:43the Psalms, where divine wrath is constantly compared to
- 17:47overwhelming waters, waves and billows.
- 17:50The waters of the flood did not just surround the wicked on the
- 17:52outside, though. No, the texts describe the
- 17:54waters coming into their very bowels.
- 17:56It is an inescapable internal judgement.
- 17:59But the flood is not just a model of wrath, it is a massive
- 18:01model of salvation. You have the ark.
- 18:04It represents the Messiah as the ultimate floating refuge from
- 18:08the storm. The prophet Isaiah talks about a
- 18:10man who will be a hiding place from the wind, a covert from The
- 18:14Tempest. The Ark is the physical covert.
- 18:17And the detail about the animals inside the ark is fascinating.
- 18:21Think about the logistics. It is wild to think about.
- 18:24You have clean and unclean animals, tame livestock and wild
- 18:27predators. Tigers, wolves, bears, lions,
- 18:32leopards, venomous serpents. It is a brilliant piece of
- 18:35analysis by Edwards. The door of the Ark stands wide
- 18:39open to all of them, regardless of their nature.
- 18:41And once inside, they all dwell peaceably together under one
- 18:44head. Noah.
- 18:44Noah kindly receives them, provides their food, and these
- 18:47wild beasts tamely submit to him.
- 18:49And Edwards explains that this vividly represents something
- 18:52specific. Yes, the gathering of the
- 18:54Gentile nations into the community of faith during the
- 18:56era of the Messiah. Because in the ancient Hebrew
- 18:58mindset, these Pagan nations were considered unclean,
- 19:02barbarous and hostile. Quite literally viewed as
- 19:05venomous beasts by the Israelites.
- 19:07So when Isaiah makes that famous prophecy that the wolf will
- 19:10dwell with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the young
- 19:13goat, and the lion will eat straw like the ox, he is not
- 19:17just being poetic about agriculture.
- 19:19No, he is echoing the historical reality of the Ark.
- 19:22The gathering of the hostile Pagan nations, the Egyptians,
- 19:25the Philistines, the Chaldeans, coming into a peaceful society
- 19:29under 1 Savior. It is a stunning historical
- 19:31parallel. The Ark was violently tossed on
- 19:34the waves, ready to be overwhelmed, but it finally
- 19:37rested on a high mountain, bringing its inhabitants safely
- 19:40into a washed new world. Which mirrors the community of
- 19:44believers being tossed with historical affliction but
- 19:46brought to rest on a holy mountain in a new creation.
- 19:49Let's look at another mega event, Egypt and the Red Sea.
- 19:53In the ancient text, the pharaoh of Egypt is repeatedly
- 19:55represented as a leviathan or a dragon, which are symbolic
- 19:59monstrous terms for Satan. Right, And the destruction of
- 20:02Pharaoh and his massive army in the waters of the Red Sea is an
- 20:05enormous historical type of the final defeat of spiritual
- 20:08darkness. The spontaneous joy and the
- 20:11songs the Israelites sang on the shores of the sea prefigure the
- 20:15joy of the redeemed. The physical act of dividing the
- 20:18waters and making a dry highway through the deep is referenced
- 20:21over and over by the later prophets.
- 20:23It is treated as an ironclad guarantee of future spiritual
- 20:27deliverance. And then we have the destruction
- 20:29of Sodom and Gomorrah. Yeah, it is a heavy one.
- 20:32The incineration of these cities is the ultimate historical type
- 20:35of final punishment, specifically represented by
- 20:38fire. The source notes several intense
- 20:41parallels here. Notice the suddenness of the
- 20:43event. Destruction fell early in the
- 20:45morning, just as the sun arose pleasantly on the earth.
- 20:48The inhabitants were completely at ease, immersed in luxury,
- 20:52sloth and pleasure. It snap shut upon them like a
- 20:54hidden snare. It brings to mind the proverbs
- 20:57warning that whoever hardens their neck after being often
- 21:00reproved will suddenly be broken beyond healing.
- 21:03Yeah, the literal elements of the destruction, fire and
- 21:06brimstone raining down from the sky are continually used in the
- 21:09prophetic books to describe the final day of reckoning.
- 21:12But Edwards points out an incredible, lingering physical
- 21:16detail. What's that?
- 21:17The actual geographical region where Sodom stood was left
- 21:21entirely full of asphaltam and pitch.
- 21:23In the translation Edwards used, it was called a Land of Burning
- 21:26Pitch. He notes that this physical
- 21:29reality, a desolate, sulfurous, unlivable wasteland, is a
- 21:33physical representation of unquenchable eternal burning.
- 21:37Wow. It was an everlasting desolation
- 21:39where no creature could survive, acting as a perpetual physical
- 21:43warning of eternal consequences. It is like a fractal pattern.
- 21:47A fractal. Yeah, if you look at a small
- 21:49part of a Fern leaf, the geometry matches the shape of
- 21:52the entire Fern. A localized historical judgment
- 21:55like Sodom or the drowning at the Red Sea is a micro version
- 21:58of the macro reality of final judgment and final salvation.
- 22:02I see the shape of the history matches the shape of the cosmos.
- 22:05If fractal is the perfect analogy, the geometry of divine
- 22:07Providence remains perfectly consistent, whether it is
- 22:10applied to a single wicked city, an entire empire, or the entire
- 22:14universe at the end of time. So we have talked about massive
- 22:17events, now let's scale back down to individuals, OK?
- 22:21Edwards argues that specific historical figures lived lives
- 22:25that meticulously, almost shockingly, mirrored the future
- 22:29Messiah. I want to spend some time on
- 22:31Joseph because the parallels are overwhelming when you lay them
- 22:34out sequentially. Joseph's biography reads like a
- 22:37hyper specific blueprint. Start with his position in the
- 22:41family. OK, Joseph was the uniquely
- 22:43beloved son of his father, Jacob.
- 22:44Right. And the prophecies constantly
- 22:47represent the Messiah as the beloved Son of God.
- 22:49Joseph was clothed with a beautiful multi colored garment
- 22:52by his father. And the Messiah is described
- 22:54poetically as being clothed with the garments of salvation.
- 22:58But then the narrative turns incredibly dark.
- 22:59He is hated by his brothers. Hated fiercely by the sons of
- 23:03his own father, they conspire against him.
- 23:05This mirrors how the Messiah, a son of Israel, was rejected and
- 23:09conspired against by the generality of his own people.
- 23:12Joseph's was literally sold into slavery for a few pieces of
- 23:15silver. And the prophecy state
- 23:17explicitly that the Messiah will be sold for a few pieces of
- 23:20silver. In Egypt, Joseph was falsely
- 23:23accused of a crime he did not commit and was thrown into a
- 23:26dungeon alongside 2 actual criminals.
- 23:29The Messiah was completely yet he was numbered with the
- 23:31transgressors, crucified between two thieves, and brought down to
- 23:35the pit of the grave. The descent is brutal, but the
- 23:38humiliation is followed by supreme exaltation.
- 23:41Joseph is suddenly raised out of the dungeon and exalted to be
- 23:44second in command over the entire Egyptian empire.
- 23:47He is made Lord of Pharaoh's house and ruler over all his
- 23:51substance. Matching the theological claim
- 23:52that the Messiah is exalted to the right hand of God, made
- 23:56higher than all the kings of the earth.
- 23:57And notice what happens upon Joseph's exaltation.
- 24:01Pharaoh gives him a Gentile wife, Asanath, the daughter of
- 24:04an Egyptian priest. The Messiah, upon his exaltation
- 24:08and rejection by his brothers, brings the Gentile world into
- 24:11espousals with himself. And Joseph's new Egyptian name,
- 24:14Zaphanath Panaya, roughly translates to savior of the
- 24:18world or revealer of secrets. He saves not only the brothers
- 24:21who betrayed him, but the entire known gentile world from a
- 24:24catastrophic famine. He provides them with the bread
- 24:27of life. The biography is almost too
- 24:29perfect. It is, but then you read about
- 24:31someone like Samson. I genuinely struggle to see how
- 24:35Samson fits this mold. He is a tough. 1 He is violent,
- 24:38reckless, and driven by base desires.
- 24:41How does a man visiting a harlot mirror a holy Messiah?
- 24:45Samson is a challenging case because his character is deeply
- 24:48flawed, but Edwards forces us to look past the moral failings of
- 24:51the man to the structural beats of his life.
- 24:53OK. Lay it out for me.
- 24:55Even his name, Samson, means little son.
- 24:58He is a small, shadowy, imperfect representation of the
- 25:01great Son of Righteousness. The ugly parts of his story are
- 25:05actually the most accurate types.
- 25:07You mean his love for the harlot?
- 25:09Yes, Samson loved a Philistine harlot, an enemy of his people,
- 25:13and this specific love directly caused his suffering, his
- 25:16betrayal, and his binding by his enemies.
- 25:18How did that connect? Edwards connects this to the
- 25:21Messiah's love for a sinful, unfaithful people.
- 25:24The prophets like Hosea and Ezekiel constantly refer to
- 25:28God's people as an unfaithful wife, a harlot who chases other
- 25:31lovers. The Messiah's love for this
- 25:34sinful, hostile people is precisely what exposes Him to
- 25:38His enemies, leads to his betrayal, and results in his
- 25:41binding and suffering. So Samson's physical weakness
- 25:45for a terrible woman points to the Messiah's sacrificial love
- 25:49for a terrible people. It reframes the ugliness
- 25:52entirely. Doesn't.
- 25:52It it really does, and the imagery of Samson at the city of
- 25:56Gaza is stunning once you see it through this lens walk.
- 25:59Me through that one. Samson is trapped inside the
- 26:01hostile city at midnight. His enemies have surrounded the
- 26:04walls. They think they have him locked
- 26:05in the grave, essentially waiting for morning executing
- 26:09right. But he rises in the middle of
- 26:10the night, walks to the massive iron gates of the city, rips
- 26:14them completely out of the ground, posts, bar and all, puts
- 26:18them on his shoulders and carries them up to the top of
- 26:20the hill. You can see the theology
- 26:22practically bursting out of the history there.
- 26:24Yeah, the Messiah, compass around by his enemies, descends
- 26:27into the sleep of death and the thick darkness of the tomb.
- 26:31But he rises in the dark, breaks the heavy bars of the grave,
- 26:34utterly destroys the gates of death, and ascends to the
- 26:37heights carrying the evidence of his victory.
- 26:39Consider the story of King David, too.
- 26:41His name literally signifies beloved, right?
- 26:45He was God's elect king, chosen completely contrary to human
- 26:49expectation when all his older, stronger, more impressive
- 26:53brothers were passed over. He was the sweet psalmist who
- 26:56led the congregation in joyful musical worship.
- 26:59And the prophets associate the Messiah's era with a breaking
- 27:02forth of unprecedented joyful singing and new songs, a total
- 27:06reversal of mourning. Look at David's defining early
- 27:09victory over Goliath. Goliath is not just a tall
- 27:12soldier, he is a figure of huge Thatcher, immense strength,
- 27:15impenetrable scaly armor, and towering pride.
- 27:19He is a localized physical type of the devil whom Isaiah calls
- 27:22Leviathan, the king over all the children of pride.
- 27:25David, acting as the humble shepherd of his people, bruises
- 27:28the head of this giant enemy with a single stone.
- 27:31This prefigures the ancient promise that the seed of the
- 27:33woman would bruise the head of the serpent.
- 27:35Furthermore, David frequently acted as a mediator.
- 27:38When the sword of divine justice was drawn against Jerusalem due
- 27:41to sin, David physically stood between God and the people,
- 27:46offering a sacrifice to keep off judgments.
- 27:48He procured God's favor for them.
- 27:50The Messiah is the ultimate mediator, given as a covenant to
- 27:54the people. I was struck by the details
- 27:56surrounding Joshua, too. Joshua is a great example.
- 27:59His original name was Oshea, which just means Savior.
- 28:02Moses, guided by the spirit, changes it to Jehoshua, meaning
- 28:06Jehovah is salvation. And look at his function.
- 28:09Joshua takes over leadership when Moses, who represents the
- 28:12strict demands of the law, cannot bring the people into the
- 28:15Promised Land. The law can lead you through the
- 28:17wilderness, but it cannot give you rest.
- 28:21Joshua leads the people through the miraculously parted waters
- 28:24of the Jordan River and brings them into a land of rest,
- 28:26flowing with milk and honey. What I gather from analyzing all
- 28:29of these figures is that they are not flawless superheroes.
- 28:32Not at all. We know David committed terrible
- 28:34sins of murder and adultery. Samson was impulsive and
- 28:37violent. Joshua made severe tactical
- 28:40errors and was deceived by his enemies.
- 28:42That distinction is crucial. They are not the substance.
- 28:45They are the shadow. They are little saviors.
- 28:48So their lives were sovereignly sculpted so that specific beats,
- 28:52specific triumphs, and specific sufferings would anticipate the
- 28:55great Savior. Yes, and the flaws in their
- 28:58character are actually helpful. They point out to the ancient
- 29:01reader that this man is only a type pointing forward to a
- 29:05perfect anti type. You are not supposed to worship
- 29:08David. You're supposed to look for the
- 29:09son of David. Precisely this brings us to what
- 29:13might be the most intricate and difficult part of Edwards's
- 29:16argument. The ceremonial law and true
- 29:19atonement. Right.
- 29:20We have talked about how modern readers struggle with ancient
- 29:23texts, and nothing is a bigger hurdle than the endless, tedious
- 29:26chapters of rituals, bloody sacrifices and temple
- 29:29measurements in the Book of Leviticus.
- 29:31To a modern mind, it reads like an obsolete butcher's manual
- 29:34mixed with a highly obsessive health code.
- 29:37It really does. But Edwards argues that these
- 29:40rituals were completely meaningless on their own.
- 29:42In fact, he points out that the prophets repeatedly state that
- 29:45God has no delight in the actual blood of bulls and goats.
- 29:48The physical blood of an animal is worthless and vain in itself
- 29:52for clearing a guilty conscience.
- 29:54So why require millions of them to be slaughtered over
- 29:56centuries? Because they were physical
- 29:59standings for a true substitution, God instituted
- 30:02them to train the minds of His people, generation after
- 30:06generation, to understand the concept of penal substitutionary
- 30:10atonement. The people needed to learn
- 30:12viscerally that sin requires a severe, deadly cost, and that
- 30:17this cost can be borne by a willing substitute.
- 30:20Let's break down the mechanics of these sacrifices.
- 30:22First, you have the governing principle of the innocent dying
- 30:25for the guilty. The animals offered had to be
- 30:27entirely without blemish. No spots, no broken bones, no
- 30:31blindness, no disease. This physical purity was an
- 30:34absolute requirement because it represented the moral and
- 30:36spiritual purity of the coming Messiah.
- 30:39He would be the true Lamb without blemish.
- 30:41A flawed sacrifice cannot pay for a flawed person.
- 30:44Then there's the ritual of the scapegoat.
- 30:46On the Day of Atonement, the high priest would physically lay
- 30:48his hands heavily on the head of a live goat, verbally confessing
- 30:52all the sins, rebellions and iniquities of the people.
- 30:55Then the goat was driven away by a designated man into the
- 30:58desolate, uninhabitable wilderness.
- 31:01It is a visual physical acting out of the transfer of guilt.
- 31:05The goat bears the sins away into a land not inhabited, just
- 31:08as Isaiah prophesied. The Messiah would bear our
- 31:11griefs, carry our sorrows, and have the iniquity of us all laid
- 31:15upon Him. The source mentions the specific
- 31:17treatment of the inverts of the sacrifices.
- 31:19Yeah, that part is intense. I always wondered why the text
- 31:22gets so obsessively specific about the fat covering the
- 31:26kidneys. The call above the liver and the
- 31:28entrails being burned on the bronze altar seems so gruesome.
- 31:32You have to understand ancient Hebrew psychology and anatomy.
- 31:35In their thought, the N words, the bowels, the kidneys, and the
- 31:38heart represent the soul. They are the seat of human
- 31:40emotion, affection and life. When the fat of the N words was
- 31:44placed on the altar and melted completely in the vehement,
- 31:47intense fire, it was a physical representation of the Messiah's
- 31:51soul being poured out like water under the heat of.
- 31:54Divine wrath. The Psalms describe the
- 31:56suffering Messiah saying, My heart is like wax, it is melted
- 31:59in the midst of my bowels. The physical melting of the
- 32:02animal score in the fire of the altar types the spiritual
- 32:06consuming of the Messiah under the fire of divine justice.
- 32:10I want to spend a lot of time on the Brazen Serpent because it is
- 32:13one of the most psychologically jarring images in the entire
- 32:16text. It is a wild story.
- 32:18The Israelites are rebelling in the desert.
- 32:20God sends venomous, fiery serpents among them.
- 32:24People are being bitten, the venom is rushing through their
- 32:26veins, and they are dying in agony.
- 32:28Right. God tells Moses to craft a
- 32:31serpent out of solid brass mounted high on a pole, and
- 32:35anyone who looks at it will be instantly healed.
- 32:38Think about how absurd that is. You're dying from snake venom
- 32:41and the cure is to stare at a metal snake.
- 32:44Why not a brazen lamb or a brazen dove?
- 32:47Edwards unpacks the sheer genius of this paradox.
- 32:50In this paradigm, venom represents sin.
- 32:53It is the lethal, invisible poison running through the veins
- 32:56of humanity, leading inevitably to death.
- 32:59The people are dying from their own rebellion, so why is the
- 33:01cure shaped exactly like the killer?
- 33:03Because the brass serpent represents the Messiah willingly
- 33:06taking on the form of a cursed Sinner.
- 33:08It connects to the New Testament idea that he who knew no sin was
- 33:12made to be sin for us. Yes, the prophet state that God
- 33:16made the iniquities of us all to meet on him, that he was
- 33:19numbered with the transgressors. The Messiah is set forth on the
- 33:23cross in the form of a great Sinner to absorb the curse.
- 33:26Looking at the brazen serpent represents looking to the
- 33:29crucified Messiah. The brass itself is significant
- 33:32too, isn't it? Yes, brass in the Scriptures
- 33:35often symbolizes judgement as it can withstand fire.
- 33:38The brazen serpent is a picture of sin being judged in the fire
- 33:41of God's wrath. Moses commands the people to
- 33:44look at the very image of their death to find their cure.
- 33:47It is a stunning psychological reversal.
- 33:49Beyond the bloody sacrifices, there are also sensory types
- 33:53embedded in the ceremonial law. The rituals engage every.
- 33:57You have the burning of incense which produces a thick, sweet
- 34:01smell throughout the temple. God does not literally have a
- 34:03nose that is pacified by the smell of burning spices, but the
- 34:07sweet aroma represents acceptable, pleasing prayers
- 34:09rising to the heavens. You have the specific garments
- 34:12of the priesthood. The priests were required to
- 34:14wear pure white linen garments, which are a constant visual
- 34:18representation of spotless righteousness and moral purity.
- 34:22Stains were completely forbidden.
- 34:24And the anointing oil, it was not just any oil.
- 34:27No. It was a specially compounded,
- 34:29highly fragrant oil that was illegal for commoners to
- 34:32replicate. Prophets, priests and kings were
- 34:35anointed with it. This physical oil poured heavily
- 34:39and running down their heads and garments, represented the
- 34:42invisible spiritual anointing and equipping of the Holy
- 34:45Spirit. Let's step back and look at the
- 34:47economic logic behind all of this, OK?
- 34:50God is not literally pacified by the smell of burning animal fat
- 34:53or wheat grain or incense. The physical sensory experience
- 34:58points to a spiritual transaction that actually
- 35:00satisfies divine justice. Think about it like a promissory
- 35:03note and I owe you exactly If I owe a bank $10 million, handing
- 35:07the bank manager a piece of notebook paper that says I owe
- 35:10you $10 million does not actually pay the debt.
- 35:13The paper is inherently worthless.
- 35:15It only has value because it points to a future reality where
- 35:18the actual hard funds will be transferred to settle the
- 35:21account. The animal sacrifices were
- 35:23millions of promissory notes handed over generation after
- 35:26generation, daily, weekly, yearly.
- 35:29They did not actually pay the spiritual debt, but they pointed
- 35:32with absolute, unyielding certainty to the one who would
- 35:35finally clear the Ledger. That is an excellent economic
- 35:39conceptualization. Edwards notes that if the
- 35:42sacrifice does not truly pay the debt, it acts as a standing,
- 35:45perpetual representation of the true atonement.
- 35:48God deliberately called these shadows by the name of the
- 35:50substance. He called the animal sacrifice
- 35:52an atonement in the text to cement in the minds of the
- 35:55people that a true substantial atonement was required and was
- 35:59coming. The shadow guaranteed the
- 36:01substance. We have covered incredible
- 36:03ground today. We really have.
- 36:05To summarize, we have seen how massive historical events like
- 36:08the Flood and the Exodus, the bizarre physical parables acted
- 36:11out by the prophets, the detailed biographies of kings
- 36:14like David and judges like Samson, and the bloody sensory
- 36:18rituals of the ceremonial law were all sovereignly
- 36:21orchestrated. They were not random,
- 36:23disconnected ancient occurrences.
- 36:25They were a vast interconnected system designed to point to 1
- 36:29central figure, the Messiah. When you pick up these ancient
- 36:32Hebrew texts, I encourage you to slow down and look closely at
- 36:35the physical details. Do not skip over the lists of
- 36:38measurements, the strange geographical notations, or the
- 36:41weird biological anomalies. Every river, every tree, every
- 36:45piece of brass, and every twist of history has intense,
- 36:49deliberate intent behind it. The physical world of the text
- 36:52is a shadow cast by a massive spiritual substance.
- 36:56Earlier we talked about how specific words and physical
- 36:59actions send a message, but what about the things the text
- 37:02refuses to say? What about the intentional gaps?
- 37:05I want to introduce a final provocative thought for you to
- 37:07Mull over long after this deep dive.
- 37:10In even negative details, things purposefully left out of the
- 37:13narrative can act as symbols. It is a brilliant literary
- 37:16technique. Consider the enigmatic figure of
- 37:19Melchizedek, the mysterious king of Salem and priest of the Most
- 37:22High God, who briefly meets Abraham in the book of Genesis.
- 37:26The text intentionally omits any mention of his parents, his
- 37:29genealogy, his birth or his death.
- 37:32In an ancient book that is notoriously obsessed with
- 37:35detailed genealogies, who begot whom, how many years they lived,
- 37:39where they died, this silence is absolutely deafening.
- 37:43But Edwards argues this omission was designed by the Spirit to
- 37:46make Melchizedek A structural shadow of an eternal priest.
- 37:50Because the text gives him no recorded beginning of days or
- 37:54end of life, he stands on the page as a type of an eternal
- 37:57priesthood. What if the silence of a text
- 38:00speaks just as loudly as the words themselves?
- 38:03When you read an ancient text and that X-ray machine of modern
- 38:06literal precision seems broken, bring to mind that you're
- 38:09looking at a completely different kind of architecture.
- 38:12You are looking at a world where the physical is engineered to
- 38:14teach you about the spiritual. Keep your eyes open for the
- 38:17shadows because they will always lead you back to the substance.
- 38:20Thanks for joining us on the Deep Dive.