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Hour 2: Lindsay Clancy Trial · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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Speaker 1: Well, jurors who are determining the fate of one of
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Speaker 1: the worst mothers in history, Lindsay Clancy, are returning to
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Speaker 1: court today to resume deliberations for a third day. For
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Speaker 1: the life of me, I can't understand what's taken them
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Speaker 1: so long. Lindsay Clancy, 36 years old, she's accused of
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Speaker 1: killing her three children, very methodically, by the way, strangling them.
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Speaker 1: with a plastic cord in January of 2023. That's how
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Speaker 1: long it's taken this to get to trial. She faces
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Speaker 1: three counts of first-degree murder for the deaths of Cora,
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Speaker 1: five years old, Dawson, three years old, and Callen, eight
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Speaker 1: months old, in Duxbury, Massachusetts. Clancy has pleaded not guilty
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Speaker 1: by reason of lack of criminal responsibility. due to her
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Speaker 1: severe mental health struggles during childbirth. She says she doesn't
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Speaker 1: even remember what happened. Well, a jury of nine women
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Speaker 1: and three men have spent more than 10 hours deliberating
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Speaker 1: right now. They have asked for specific evidence, including pill
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Speaker 1: bottles and a knife from her attempted suicide. You see,
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Speaker 1: right afterwards, she slid her wrist and then jumped out
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Speaker 1: of a window. She's still paralyzed from the waist down
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Speaker 1: because of the jump. So the jury right now is
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Speaker 1: facing five choices. First degree murder, second degree murder, manslaughter,
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Speaker 1: not guilty, or not criminally responsible by reason of mental illness.
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Speaker 1: And Curtis and I talked about this on Friday. And
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Speaker 1: of course, I started to get emotional about this because
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Speaker 1: I can't for the life of me, Curtis, understand how
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Speaker 1: this isn't a slam dunk, how she isn't just, I
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Speaker 1: wish they had a death penalty to put her to death.
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Speaker 1: She planned this out. She methodically killed those children. She
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Speaker 1: chased after the five-year-old. And I don't know in what
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Speaker 1: world anybody could have any sympathy for this woman.
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Speaker 2: Well, there was a case in the Bronx just adjudicated,
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Speaker 2: different in nature, but somewhat similar. The trial was judged.
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Speaker 2: They determined, let's go to a judge, not a jury,
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Speaker 2: because they were fearful that a jury might find this
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Speaker 2: mother guilty. But a Bronx judge adjudicated it and found
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Speaker 2: a mom of two was suffering from postpartum psychosis. She
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Speaker 2: was living in a shelter with her two children in
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Speaker 2: the Bronx at that time and found her not guilty.
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Speaker 2: of killing her two young kids. Now, she will be
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Speaker 2: remanded to a psychiatric facility very soon when she comes
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Speaker 2: back for sentencing. Her name is Dionne Fleming, 26. She
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Speaker 2: was found not responsible by mental disease or defect in
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Speaker 2: court for the deaths of her two kids, One 11 months,
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Speaker 2: one three-year-old. She was hallucinating, she said, convinced that the
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Speaker 2: world was over. A spirit had invaded her body. She
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Speaker 2: had been in a hospital in Queens for two months.
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Speaker 2: She had a major depressive disorder, prescribed psychotropic drugs, but
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Speaker 2: she didn't take the meds. Somewhat similar as we see
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Speaker 2: in the case of Lindsay Clancy. in that when they
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Speaker 2: searched her home, she had all these prescribed drugs that
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Speaker 2: were supposed to modulate her or deal with her psychotic problems,
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Speaker 2: and she barely took any. So they found all these
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Speaker 2: pill bottles that hadn't even been opened up. So somewhat
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Speaker 2: similar situation, but in the case of the Bronx woman,
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Speaker 2: the DA actually joined with the defense attorney. Now get this, Larry,
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Speaker 2: this is going to make your blood boil.
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Speaker 3: The associate district attorney for the Bronx said prosecuting mothers
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Speaker 3: does not and cannot prevent these crimes from happening, but
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Speaker 3: public discussion will.
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Speaker 2: That's how they dealt with it in the Bronx. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: we're waiting to see what the jury up in Plymouth decides.
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Speaker 2: And also, it's interesting because while this case has gone
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Speaker 2: on and received national, now international attention, there are hundreds
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Speaker 2: of people, mostly women, who've gathered outside the Plymouth courthouse
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Speaker 2: wearing pink gear and holding signs to rally in support
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Speaker 2: of Lindsay Clancy. These are not like Luigi Mangione crazies,
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Speaker 2: you know, those groupies. seem to be sane and sober
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Speaker 2: and calm men and women who were there to say
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Speaker 2: you should not send Lindsay Clancy to jail. I'm wondering
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Speaker 2: what you would say if you were outside to all
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Speaker 2: of them, because they appear to be very respectful. They're
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Speaker 2: not like those Luigi Mangione crazies. They just feel that
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Speaker 2: She has a problem that requires psychiatric care and not incarceration.
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Speaker 1: That's funny because I think they're crazier than the Luigi Mangione.
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Speaker 1: I don't care how they dress. It's their actions, the
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Speaker 1: fact that they're trying to support someone who killed three children,
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Speaker 1: methodically killed three children. Now, she claims she was so
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Speaker 1: whacked out on drugs. By the way, they didn't find
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Speaker 1: all those drugs in her system either when they took
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Speaker 1: her in right after they went and got her. But
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Speaker 1: she claims that she was just whacked out. She didn't
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Speaker 1: know what she was doing. Well, she had it planned.
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Speaker 1: She sent her husband out knowing that he had to
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Speaker 1: stop at two places. He said, go to the grocery
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Speaker 1: store and then go to this place. And so he
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Speaker 1: had to go to two places. She knew how much
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Speaker 1: time she had. So she plotted this whole thing. She
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Speaker 1: took the three children down in the basement. And the
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Speaker 1: five-year-old had to watch the other two strangled. He tried
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Speaker 1: to run. He wanted to run away, and she chased
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Speaker 1: after him to make sure that she strangled him. Look,
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Speaker 1: there is nothing about this that shows that somehow she
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Speaker 1: was so whacked out that she did this. There is
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Speaker 1: nothing about this that she claims, I don't even remember
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Speaker 1: any of it. No, no, no. This was methodical. She
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Speaker 1: had plenty of time to think about something else. Can
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Speaker 1: any parent out there imagine looking at your child and
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Speaker 1: strangling them to death. And we're talking about a baby
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Speaker 1: and toddlers, looking at them in the face and strangling
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Speaker 1: them to death.
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Speaker 4: That goes well above.
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Speaker 1: And beyond the pale of any murder that I can
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Speaker 1: think of. That's just to the point of being obscene.
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Speaker 1: So the fact that this jury has even taken two days,
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Speaker 1: the fact that there are people outside defending her, Curtis,
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Speaker 1: to me, that is sickening.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think their rally cry is she needed help.
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Speaker 2: She needed help. And there are a lot of other
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Speaker 2: people in similar circumstances. If we discuss it even broader,
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Speaker 2: beyond just mothers doing harm to their children or the
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Speaker 2: worst of all worse, killing their children.
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Speaker 4: We've seen a few cases like this.
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Speaker 2: Is that there is a mental health care crisis in
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Speaker 2: America and people are not receiving the mental health care
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Speaker 2: aid that they want. Like I said, they're making a
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Speaker 2: rational presentation. They don't appear to be unhinged, angry, but
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Speaker 2: they just keep citing similar situations that they had after
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Speaker 2: delivering a child in the deep depression and how If
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Speaker 2: they had not received any care, they might have been
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Speaker 2: in the same position.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I feel so bad for her. Oh, my God.
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Speaker 4: No, I don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't at all. Nobody should feel for this woman.
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Speaker 1: She killed three children. Can we keep remembering the children
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Speaker 1: that she killed? All the discussion has been about her.
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Speaker 1: Everything in the media has been about her. Everything in
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Speaker 1: the media has been about depression and over-medicating and the
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Speaker 1: doctors and all of this. Can we talk about three
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Speaker 1: little kids who will never experience another birthday, who won't
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Speaker 1: get a chance to go to school, who won't get
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Speaker 1: a chance to grow up? We don't know what they
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Speaker 1: would have become. She ended all of that. Methodically. So
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Speaker 1: don't tell me she was crazy. She had enough wherewithal
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Speaker 1: to plan this out. She had enough wherewithal to send
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Speaker 1: her husband away. No, look, I would rather not see
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Speaker 1: her live. I'm so upset about this. But the fact
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Speaker 1: that there are people, there's something wrong with the world.
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Speaker 1: There is really something wrong with the world. We support
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Speaker 1: the wrong people. And they gather for her. Where are
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Speaker 1: the people out there with candles lit for the three
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Speaker 1: kids that were killed? Where are they? Where's their support?
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Speaker 1: You know, to me, I'm sorry, Curtis, this is sickening.
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Speaker 1: The whole thing is sickening. And I hate to have
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Speaker 1: a discussion as if there is some rationality behind, you know,
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Speaker 1: letting her go because, well, she really didn't know what
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Speaker 1: she was doing. She knew exactly what she was doing.
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Speaker 1: She was out to get her husband. Not those kids.
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Speaker 1: This was the worst thing that was going to happen
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Speaker 1: to her husband. And she did this to go after
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Speaker 1: him and make him feel awful for the rest of
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Speaker 1: his life. That's what she did. She shouldn't be living anymore.
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Speaker 2: So the deliberation, which continues again today, top charge is
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Speaker 2: basically premeditated murder, triple life without parole. That jury can make...
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Speaker 2: that decision. Lifetime in jail. Number two, manslaughter, which the
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Speaker 2: judge threw in when he was charging the jury that
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Speaker 2: had not originally, I think, been discussed would mean 20
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Speaker 2: year max. Then obviously being found guilty of but for
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Speaker 2: reason of insanity, which would mean she would be transported
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Speaker 2: to a psychiatric facility in Massachusetts.
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Speaker 4: And with.
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Speaker 2: No mention that if she were ever to be perceived
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Speaker 2: of having recovered after therapy and drugs, that she would
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Speaker 2: then be incarcerated. You know, it's sort of like that
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Speaker 2: Hinckley effect. You know, you go into a hospital and
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Speaker 2: once the shrinks determine you're okay, you're released, which I
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Speaker 2: think a lot of people have a difficulty with.
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Speaker 4: But now we wait. And apparently... It's not a slam dunk,
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Speaker 4: as some would have thought. No, no.
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Speaker 1: They're looking for some type of middle ground, and that's horrible.
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Speaker 1: It's just horrible. This should have been a deliberation of
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Speaker 1: one hour. They should have come back in. But you
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Speaker 1: know there's some bleeding heart woman on that jury. There's
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Speaker 1: nine women, eight women, right? And so, well, anyway.
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Speaker 4: Well, it might be a guy. You never know.
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Speaker 2: There's three men and nine women. Only one note came out,
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Speaker 2: but apparently of no significance on Friday. And then the
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Speaker 2: judge let him leave early. Everybody out front's a woman,
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Speaker 2: it looks like.
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Speaker 4: You mean the demonstrators? The demonstrators, yeah. The majority of women.
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Speaker 1: So they're the ones to worry about. There's just some
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Speaker 1: women that think.
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Speaker 2: I'd love to see you outside with those women and
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Speaker 2: men and having a discussion.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't talk to them. I'd just say you sicken me.
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Speaker 1: Well, they had a big celebration at the Minnesota State
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Speaker 1: Fair this year because you're all going to remember this,
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Speaker 1: the Tilt-A-Whirl. is now 100 years old. Remember the big,
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Speaker 1: the ones I always went on were red, but sometimes
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Speaker 1: they're just brightly colored in all different colors. But it
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Speaker 1: debuted at the Falcon Heights event in 1926, becoming a
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Speaker 1: mainstay at fairs and amusement parks across the country. I
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Speaker 1: think everybody remembers being on a Tilt-A-Whirl.
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Speaker 6: As long as I can remember, when I was young,
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Speaker 6: my parents and my grandparents took me to the fair.
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Speaker 6: We rode the Tilt-A-Whirl every time. We love to bring
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Speaker 6: our kids and do the same thing. It's definitely a
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Speaker 6: family tradition. Knowing that it's 100 years old this year
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Speaker 6: is pretty crazy, but I'm glad that we get to
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Speaker 6: be a part of it.
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Speaker 1: And down the shore, all the boardwalks, every amusement park
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Speaker 1: you go to, there is a Tilt-A-Whirl. And I'm sure
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Speaker 1: when you were a kid, you wanted the Tilt-A-Whirl.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 2: No, no, roller coasters and bumper cars. In fact, I
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Speaker 2: took my oldest son, Anthony, to Seaside Heights. Remember, they
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Speaker 2: had a great roller coaster that ended up in the
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Speaker 2: sea after Superstorm Sandy.
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Speaker 4: It was right before that.
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Speaker 2: To be honest, I probably have seen it, but I've
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Speaker 2: never been on it.
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Speaker 7: Really?
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Speaker 4: Never.
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Speaker 2: I wonder if that's the way it is with the
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Speaker 2: Jersey Shore gal, our own Natalie.
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Speaker 8: Ha ha ha!
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Speaker 7: Oh, yeah. I've been on it. The only way I
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Speaker 7: could describe it, it's like the teacup ride on acid.
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Speaker 4: It's twisty, turny.
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Speaker 9: It makes your stomach sick.
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Speaker 6: I won't do it anymore.
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Speaker 10: I did it as a kid.
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Speaker 11: It's the ride that inevitably you will see someone throw
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Speaker 11: up on.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's probably right.
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Speaker 9: It looks innocent.
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Speaker 4: It looks not so bad. But when you're on it,
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Speaker 4: forget about it.
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Speaker 2: Your whole world is a loop.
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Speaker 4: I feel I've been deprived.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't that.
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Speaker 4: Let's get you on it, Curtis.
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Speaker 1: I never felt it was that bad. You know what
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Speaker 1: it really is? There's little kid rides, right? And I
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Speaker 1: would say the teacup ride is a little kid ride.
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Speaker 12: Yes.
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Speaker 1: The teacup ride is a little kid ride. And then
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Speaker 1: there are adult rides. Well, there's these in-between rides like
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Speaker 1: the Tilda Whirl. You graduate to the Tilda Whirl when
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Speaker 1: you're like maybe 11 to 16 and then you go
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Speaker 1: for the bigger roller coasters.
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Speaker 2: Larry and Natalie, me and my cousins would cross the
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Speaker 2: border from New York into Jersey to what was Action
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Speaker 2: Park at the time. We called it Traction Park. They
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Speaker 2: had more injuries, more deaths from all the rides. They
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Speaker 2: had ambulances waiting outside. I don't know how the owners
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Speaker 2: and operators could even get insurance.
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Speaker 4: I don't remember that ride at Action Park, a.k.a. Traction Park.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure it was there.
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Speaker 4: I'm sure it was there.
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Speaker 1: Now that I say it, you're going to go to
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Speaker 1: Park and go, oh, there's a tilt.
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Speaker 4: I have to take a ride on it.
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Speaker 1: There's that's the one. All right, we have a lot
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Speaker 1: of talkbacks that we need to get to talking about
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Speaker 1: the Clancy trial.
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Speaker 13: I suffered from alcohol withdrawal. I suffered from auditory hallucinations.
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Speaker 13: And I have to tell you, I heard the phone
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Speaker 13: ringing and people speaking. But the last phone call that
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Speaker 13: I heard was my son telling me that whatever I do,
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Speaker 13: call 911, Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, there's never a point where, look, I understand.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that there's medication that can't affect you
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Speaker 1: like that. I'm not saying that at all. But this
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Speaker 1: woman killed three children and she planned it. She planned it.
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Speaker 1: And she looked them in the faces as she killed them.
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Speaker 1: One of the children tried to run away. There's just
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Speaker 1: no forgiving that.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know what's taking so long either.
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Speaker 4: I mean, it should be a slam dunk.
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Speaker 2: And if by any way.
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Speaker 14: This woman gets exonerated and let go, it's going to
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Speaker 14: be like Casey Anthony 2.0.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good call. Excellent comparison.
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Speaker 12: Larry, I love you, but you are way off on this.
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Speaker 12: I hope you get a thousand of these talkbacks. There's
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Speaker 12: not enough time in 30 seconds to handle this. She
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Speaker 12: did this only because of a psychosis. How can you
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Speaker 12: not see that? What other motive did she have?
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Speaker 2: None.
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Speaker 12: She was a perfectly normal woman as a nurse, over-medicated,
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Speaker 12: and had a psychosis. And she did that only because
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Speaker 12: of that. Try to understand.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't. I'm sorry, I don't. And so the
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Speaker 1: psychosis made her come up with this plan where she
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Speaker 1: had to get her husband out of the house and
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Speaker 1: pretended they were going to really have this nice dinner
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Speaker 1: together that night. And then when she knew he was away,
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Speaker 1: and by the way, she planned it so that he
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Speaker 1: would be away for enough time. And then he takes
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Speaker 1: her children, her children, down into the basement and strangles
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Speaker 1: them one by one. And when one of them tries
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Speaker 1: to run away, she runs after that person. There was
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Speaker 1: never a point in all of that where there was
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Speaker 1: just a glimmer of sanity.
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Speaker 4: Sorry. Nope.
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Speaker 1: Can't forgive her. I just can't forgive her, and I
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Speaker 1: hope the jury feels the same way. Now let's get
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Speaker 1: to Daria Albinger with the 7.30 news.
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Speaker 4: Daria.
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Speaker 2: Morning, guys.
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Speaker 9: It is mostly cloudy. It's going to be that way
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Speaker 9: today on the muggy side. A few showers possible with
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Speaker 9: a high of 79 degrees. Well, this is the first
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Speaker 9: day of the school year at Hofstra University, and there
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Speaker 9: will be professors in the classroom. The question is, For
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Speaker 9: how long?
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Speaker 8: Hofstra and the American Association of University Professors Union still
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Speaker 8: cannot come to an agreement on a contract with the
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Speaker 8: current one expiring at midnight. The union did vote to
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Speaker 8: authorize a strike if an agreement is not reached. The
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Speaker 8: union says raises in health care costs are the main
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Speaker 8: sticking points. Hofstra says it's committed to reaching an agreement
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Speaker 8: fair to faculty and financially sustainable for the university. I'm
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Speaker 8: Scott Pringle, WOR News.
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Speaker 9: A search continues for the driver in a deadly hit
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Speaker 9: and run in Brooklyn. Police say Jiaya Zheng was struck
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Speaker 9: early Saturday as she was leaving her overnight shift at
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Speaker 9: NYU Langone Hospital. Police were told that Zheng was hit
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Speaker 9: by a black Cadillac that was speeding and ran a
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Speaker 9: red light. Tensions are increasing again between the U.S. and Iran,
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Speaker 9: with both sides launching strikes overnight. The point of contention
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Speaker 9: continues to be the straight-over moves. More than 900 people
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Speaker 9: are confirmed dead in last week's powerful flooding in Nepal.
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Speaker 9: The State Department says 85 Americans are.
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Speaker 4: Still unaccounted for.
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Speaker 9: A mass shooting in Trenton has left at least two
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Speaker 9: people dead and nine wounded.
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Speaker 10: It happened just before 1230 Sunday morning on Locust Street.
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Speaker 10: Eleven people gunned down, two of whom died at the scene.
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Speaker 10: The other victims are being treated for bullet wounds. Trenton
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Speaker 10: police haven't released information about their conditions. No IDs yet
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Speaker 10: on the victims, no arrests, and no word yet on
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Speaker 10: what triggered the deadly mass shooting. The Mercer County Prosecutors
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Speaker 10: Homicide Task Force is investigating. Sarah Lee Kessler, WOR News.
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Speaker 9: And if you're traveling for Labor Day weekend, the AAA
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Speaker 9: says to expect high prices for things like airfare, hotels,
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Speaker 9: and gas, and plenty of company at the airports and
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Speaker 9: on the roads. It says the best time to head
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Speaker 9: out to your destination, if you can do it, Thursday morning.
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Speaker 9: Yankees beat Boston, Mets lost to Houston, and Venus Williams
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Speaker 9: and Novak Djokovic lost their first round matches at the U.S.
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Speaker 10: Open.
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Speaker 9: Next news, 8 o'clock bulletins at once. I'm Daria Albinger
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Speaker 9: on 710WOR. All right, thank you, Daria. When we come back, hey, Curtis,
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Speaker 9: did you hear this? Another NFL owner was caught procuring
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Speaker 9: a hooker.
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Speaker 1: What is it with these guys? They have more money
20:28
Speaker 1: than God.
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Speaker 4: They're frugal.
20:30
Speaker 2: You see, we know they're cheapskates, but when you're a
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Speaker 2: millionaire or a billionaire, they say, yeah, well, how do you.
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Speaker 4: Think they became a millionaire or a billionaire? They're very frugal.
20:39
Speaker 4: It does save money.
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Speaker 1: Warner Wolf will explain a little bit more.
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Speaker 4: He's up next.
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Speaker 2: Oh, he's the man, Warner Wolf, with the start of
22:43
Speaker 2: the football season upon us.
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Speaker 4: Exhibition, Giants versus Jets.
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Speaker 2: Giants won as they approached their new season along with
22:53
Speaker 2: the Jets. Warner, what can you tell us about this
22:57
Speaker 2: whole exhibition season for both squads?
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Speaker 5: I'm still laughing. There were 48 exhibition games this year.
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Speaker 5: The so-called favorite failed to beat the spread 38 of
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Speaker 5: the 48 games. Proving once again nobody knows nothing when
23:16
Speaker 5: you don't even know who's playing. And you idiots who
23:19
Speaker 5: bet on the games. Unbelievable. Now, you know, the last
23:23
Speaker 5: time that a Jets-Giants exhibition game meant anything was the
23:28
Speaker 5: first time they ever played. August of 1969 in the
23:33
Speaker 5: Yale Bowl. Joe Namath threw three touchdown passes, and the
23:37
Speaker 5: AFL Super Bowl champion Jets clobbered the established NFL Giants 37-14. Results,
23:46
Speaker 5: Giants owner Wellington Mara fired Giant coach Ali Sherman even
23:52
Speaker 5: before the regular season began. And the irony is that Sherman,
23:59
Speaker 5: he had a 10-year contract, by the way. He wanted
24:04
Speaker 5: to take Joe Namath, for the Giants in the first
24:08
Speaker 5: pick in the 1965 draft, and Wellington Mara overruled him.
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Speaker 4: Oh, no.
24:16
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. We have to take Tucker Fredrickson. Can
24:19
Speaker 5: you imagine how the difference of the franchises might have been?
24:24
Speaker 4: Well, it shows you a Brooklyn College education.
24:27
Speaker 2: He was the quarterback when Brooklyn College had a football team,
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Speaker 2: Ali Sherman.
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Speaker 4: He went on to become the chairman of OTB.
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Speaker 5: That's right. He was the left-handed quarterback from Brooklyn College.
24:39
Speaker 4: That's right.
24:42
Speaker 5: So it comes out that, but I still can't get
24:44
Speaker 5: over it. Imagine if Giant Namath had been blamed for
24:47
Speaker 5: the Giants.
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Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
24:49
Speaker 5: And the poor Jets. Oh, my God. So it comes out,
24:54
Speaker 5: this is serious. One in every four NFL players has
24:59
Speaker 5: or will have the brain damage CTE, chronic traumatic disease. Encephalopathy.
25:06
Speaker 5: From too many hits to the head. And you know
25:09
Speaker 5: what I'm thinking? The rate would be much higher if
25:12
Speaker 5: you counted the hundreds of players who played in the
25:16
Speaker 5: previous seven decades when there was no testing. And the
25:20
Speaker 5: coach would just say, oh, you just had your bell rung.
25:24
Speaker 5: Get back in the game. And as long as we're
25:27
Speaker 5: talking about head injuries, how about all the men and
25:30
Speaker 5: women's soccer players?
25:33
Speaker 7: Right?
25:33
Speaker 5: And their headers. No protection. Are we going to read
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Speaker 5: about them years from now?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've done a lot of stories on this. And
25:43
Speaker 1: you know what else is high? Competitive cheerleading when it
25:48
Speaker 1: comes to concussions because they.
25:50
Speaker 4: Fall on your heads.
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Speaker 5: Oh, my gosh.
25:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, they get tossed in the air wanting their competition.
25:56
Speaker 5: Yeah, we know that.
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Speaker 2: And then when they come down, they don't always get caught.
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Speaker 2: And unfortunately, they pile drive right into the turf.
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Speaker 5: Oh, gosh. Well, I'm glad you brought that.
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Speaker 15: Up, Larry.
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Speaker 5: Put a halt to the show.
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Speaker 4: What the hell? After what you guys said, what are
26:15
Speaker 4: you going to have your kids do? They can't be cheerleaders.
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Speaker 4: They can't play soccer. They can't play smash football.
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Speaker 11: You know, with soccer and youth soccer, they do not
26:24
Speaker 11: let them head now until a certain age.
26:27
Speaker 8: They eliminated that.
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Speaker 1: It's a penalty.
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Speaker 5: Oh, no headers. All right. Yep. Hey, move over, NFL players.
26:38
Speaker 5: The owners are making the players look good. Remember years
26:41
Speaker 5: ago it was Patriots owner Robert Kraft arrested for prostitution
26:46
Speaker 5: and a massage parlor? So last week it was 49ers
26:50
Speaker 5: owner Jed York arrested for lining up a prostitute in
26:55
Speaker 5: a sting operation. Come on, give these owners something to
26:58
Speaker 5: do between the games.
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Speaker 2: Look at this.
27:03
Speaker 5: They're showing up the players. Hey, what's wrong with this picture?
27:11
Speaker 5: 23-year-old tight end Daquan Wright, who played two years at
27:15
Speaker 5: Virginia Tech and then two more years at Mississippi, and
27:18
Speaker 5: was an undrafted free agent released by the Eagles and Browns,
27:23
Speaker 5: is going back to college for a fifth year to
27:26
Speaker 5: play at LSU.
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Speaker 12: Why?
27:29
Speaker 5: Because Wright will be paid more money with the use
27:34
Speaker 5: of his name, image, and likeness at LSU than he
27:38
Speaker 5: would be on a practice team in the NFL. Something's
27:43
Speaker 5: wrong with that picture.
27:45
Speaker 7: Wow.
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Speaker 2: So basically what you're saying, Warner, is that you can
27:49
Speaker 2: make more in college now than you might even make
27:52
Speaker 2: if you make an NFL team.
27:54
Speaker 7: That's right.
27:55
Speaker 5: Certainly in your first year, yeah. Because I think it's
27:59
Speaker 5: $ 885, 000 minimum. And who knows what they'll give you. Hey,
28:04
Speaker 5: the stooge of the week, and also the boo of
28:07
Speaker 5: the week, has to go to the CBC, the Canadian
28:11
Speaker 5: Broadcasting Company, last week ordered their entire television staff not
28:18
Speaker 5: to refer to the 9-11 World Trade Center disaster of
28:24
Speaker 5: almost 3,000 people dying as a terrorist attack.
28:28
Speaker 13: No!
28:29
Speaker 10: No!
28:30
Speaker 5: Hey, look up the word terrorist, you dummies. It says
28:34
Speaker 5: an act of non-combatants to achieve religious or ideological goals. Man,
28:44
Speaker 5: go tell the families and friends or the victims it
28:46
Speaker 5: was not a terrorist attack. I would rename, and I'd
28:51
Speaker 5: be ashamed to work for the CBC, but I'd rename
28:54
Speaker 5: that Canadian broadcasting company The Canadian Brainless Company. I mean,
29:01
Speaker 5: that's disgraceful.
29:02
Speaker 1: It is disgraceful, but we have to give some credit
29:05
Speaker 1: to the staff there and to the anchors and to
29:08
Speaker 1: the reporters who refused to do it.
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Speaker 2: Oh, good.
29:11
Speaker 5: I wasn't aware of that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. That edict never made air. because so many
29:18
Speaker 1: people said, no, no, no, we can't do that. Yes,
29:23
Speaker 1: they were brainless. The executive that wrote that was brainless,
29:27
Speaker 1: but the staff, they deserve some applause.
29:30
Speaker 5: That's terrific. Real quick, talk about perseverance. Journeyman quarterback Josh Dobbs,
29:37
Speaker 5: who was drafted way back in 2007, 2017, has played
29:41
Speaker 5: with nine different NFL teams, has been so impressive in preseason.
29:48
Speaker 5: He is now the backup quarterback for the Detroit Lions
29:53
Speaker 5: to Jared Goff. The record, by the way, is 14
29:57
Speaker 5: different teams. Josh Johnson, including the Giants and Jets. But
30:03
Speaker 5: that's a good story. Golf could get hurt, and all
30:07
Speaker 5: of a sudden, Josh Dobbs. Man, that's a long time
30:11
Speaker 5: since he's waited. Nice story.
30:14
Speaker 4: That's longevity.
30:15
Speaker 2: You see, if you can be a backup quarterback, if
30:18
Speaker 2: you can be willing to sit on the bench and
30:20
Speaker 2: collect splinters, you can go from team to team.
30:24
Speaker 4: I mean, that's longevity in the NFL.
30:26
Speaker 2: What? You're running back. You're lucky if you play four
30:29
Speaker 2: years and you're gone.
30:31
Speaker 5: That's the average four and a half years. You not
30:33
Speaker 5: only collect splinters, he's collecting a million and a half dollars.
30:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
30:37
Speaker 8: That's right.
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Speaker 1: To not play.
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Speaker 4: Well, I do appreciate it, Warner.
30:44
Speaker 7: All right.
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Speaker 4: Same time. That's right.
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Speaker 12: Thank you for your attention.
30:50
Speaker 4: Same time, same place next week.
30:52
Speaker 2: Up next, and Natalie Migliari, a lot of these ballplayers,
30:57
Speaker 2: they have a secondary home. They have to have it
31:00
Speaker 2: because they have a primary residence, and then they have
31:03
Speaker 2: a home in the city that they play for.
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Speaker 4: Well, if it was New York City. We're talking, how
31:08
Speaker 4: do you say that again, Larry?
31:09
Speaker 1: Pierre Duterte.
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Speaker 4: Whatever the hell that name means.
31:14
Speaker 2: We'll get an update on what the people in the
31:15
Speaker 2: streets are thinking coming up next. Now, it's 710 WOR
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Speaker 2: Speed on the Street with Natalie Migliore.
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Speaker 1: Well, Natalie is out today talking about the Pierre Duterte attacks,
31:31
Speaker 1: and I'm just wondering, does anybody use the term Pierre Duterte?
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Speaker 17: I'm the one who's really asking them about it. So
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Speaker 17: I'm the one who has to say pied-a-terre. And then
31:43
Speaker 17: I colloquially try to be like, you know, the second
31:46
Speaker 17: home tax.
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Speaker 4: Oh, that one, yeah. But people know about it.
31:51
Speaker 17: They certainly know about it. You don't necessarily have to
31:54
Speaker 17: say the second home tax for some people to be
31:56
Speaker 17: like pied-a-terre. So a Staten Island judge is set to
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Speaker 17: hear arguments today. in the lawsuit challenging the city's rollout
32:05
Speaker 17: of this pied-a-terre tax, which impacts New Yorkers who own
32:09
Speaker 17: second homes, look, we got two of those key terms
32:11
Speaker 17: in there, worth more than $ 5 million, perplexing to many
32:18
Speaker 17: owners here in the city, both past and present.
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Speaker 7: Happy I sold it.
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Speaker 4: I think it's stupid, but if that's what they have
32:26
Speaker 4: to do, that's what they have to do.
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Speaker 7: I don't think it'll affect the regular New Yorker, but
32:31
Speaker 7: obviously the people who want to have a pied-à-terre, it'll
32:35
Speaker 7: make a big difference.
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Speaker 1: What are you hearing from the people in your building
32:38
Speaker 1: about it?
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Speaker 7: Well, they're very upset. A lot of them, you know,
32:41
Speaker 7: have been residents for 20 years, and this has been
32:45
Speaker 7: their lifestyle for years. So why should they be penalized now?
32:49
Speaker 7: They're paying taxes.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, a lot of those people in the building still...
32:53
Speaker 17: she was on the board of her building, she was
32:55
Speaker 17: telling me they have to figure out how that's even
32:58
Speaker 17: going to work in a co-op or a condo when people,
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Speaker 17: you know, when the building pays collective taxes and there
33:03
Speaker 17: are people with the pied-à-terre in that building. That's something
33:08
Speaker 17: that's still trying to be figured out in a way. Now,
33:11
Speaker 17: that's the Upper West Side. Head down to the Penn
33:14
Speaker 17: Station area and you've got different opinions regarding the second
33:18
Speaker 17: home tax.
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Speaker 14: They got it. Might as well hit them, you know.
33:22
Speaker 14: Everybody else out here is struggling. The middle class is struggling.
33:25
Speaker 14: You know, it's no in-between no more. So somebody got
33:29
Speaker 14: to hold this down.
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Speaker 4: I think it's fair, but it has to be very
33:31
Speaker 4: carefully set for that.
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Speaker 1: You know what? I got a lot to take care
33:36
Speaker 1: of in my life.
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Speaker 13: I'm 90, heading toward 91, and I'm not too involved.
33:43
Speaker 1: There you go. Maybe that's how she got there.
33:46
Speaker 7: To her. Yeah.
33:47
Speaker 4: She's like, I'm not too involved.
33:49
Speaker 17: Maybe that's how she got there, you know. Maybe she
33:52
Speaker 17: would be more involved if she found out the city
33:54
Speaker 17: sent at least 1,200 notifications, if.
33:57
Speaker 4: Not more, about this tax to the wrong people.
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Speaker 17: That's after the city reduced the number of impacted residents
34:04
Speaker 17: from 17,000 to about 11,000.
34:08
Speaker 4: When New Yorkers are asked if it's a rushed rollout.
34:11
Speaker 7: It's negligence on his behalf, of his administration.
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Speaker 4: It's just negligence.
34:16
Speaker 7: It's like being passed over.
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Speaker 15: Totally a mix-up.
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Speaker 7: And I can tell you from the perspective of one
34:22
Speaker 7: of the board members in the building I'm in that
34:25
Speaker 7: they were, everyone was upset and misunderstanding it. It was
34:30
Speaker 7: just a stupid thing. And the whole thing is really
34:33
Speaker 7: not properly handled.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, and then it's not even really in place yet, obviously.
34:38
Speaker 9: They're trying to get.
34:39
Speaker 17: It in place now. The tax is expected to raise
34:42
Speaker 17: $ 500 million additional for the city's budget, but... Will it
34:46
Speaker 17: be abused or will it be put to good use
34:49
Speaker 17: to improve the quality of life for New Yorkers?
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Speaker 7: I wish it would, but that's not the way the
34:55
Speaker 7: money flows.
34:56
Speaker 4: It never does. I hadn't seen it yet.
34:59
Speaker 1: And I'm a senior, senior girl.
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Speaker 7: You know, you don't have to go too much more
35:02
Speaker 7: further for you to understand what the outcome will be.
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Speaker 12: So all you guys just stick around for the next
35:09
Speaker 12: voting series.
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Speaker 1: The next election.
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Speaker 4: Now, just a slight correction.
35:14
Speaker 2: When it comes to the condos and co-ops, if it's
35:17
Speaker 2: worth the unit itself a million dollars or more, but
35:20
Speaker 2: you are correct. The taxes get based on the collective worth.
35:24
Speaker 2: So let's say you went Chapter 11 on a condo.
35:29
Speaker 2: That lowers everybody's equity.
35:32
Speaker 4: Same thing with a co-op.
35:33
Speaker 2: So it's almost like a cheese box, you know, when
35:36
Speaker 2: you have the cheese box in the cheese box out
35:39
Speaker 2: like an accordion.
35:40
Speaker 7: Right.
35:41
Speaker 2: So they get measured a little differently than the people
35:44
Speaker 2: who own a three family, two family or one family home.
35:47
Speaker 4: It's got to be worth more than five million dollars.
35:50
Speaker 17: Do you think it's going to work?
35:52
Speaker 2: They'll get their money, but there'll be a lot of
35:54
Speaker 2: complaining along the way. So we'll see, though. They have
35:58
Speaker 2: a favorable judge, Randy Mastro, who is the opposition. He's
36:03
Speaker 2: a conservative Democrat judge. You almost can't find any of
36:07
Speaker 2: those any longer, who I think will be making the
36:11
Speaker 2: determination for now.
36:12
Speaker 4: And then it has to go up the impelling court
36:14
Speaker 4: and goes on and on and on.
36:16
Speaker 1: So it could be some time before this hits, right?
36:18
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ozzie, I think, is the guy who makes the
36:21
Speaker 2: decision today. Ozzie is the guy you want to go
36:23
Speaker 2: to when you want a Democrat because he leans conservative.
36:29
Speaker 9: Interesting.
36:30
Speaker 17: But I think that when it comes to just New
36:32
Speaker 17: Yorkers on the street, when they hear it, if you
36:35
Speaker 17: don't have money, or I don't want to say if
36:37
Speaker 17: you don't have money, but if you're not sitting in
36:39
Speaker 17: that upper echelon of society... To them, it's, you know,
36:43
Speaker 17: get hit with it. But, you know, it's almost this
36:45
Speaker 17: idea of the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
36:48
Speaker 17: So there's this, you know, but only.
36:52
Speaker 11: A few people.
36:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they ain't getting the money. There's already a
36:58
Speaker 1: hole in the budget. Exactly. There's a big deficit. That's
37:00
Speaker 1: where the money's going to go.
37:01
Speaker 17: But that money goes to services to service these people.
37:05
Speaker 17: That's like the argument of people like give it to us,
37:07
Speaker 17: that guy on the street who was like hit it where,
37:09
Speaker 17: you know, hit it and let them hold us up.
37:11
Speaker 1: That was his argument in a sense. You know, you
37:13
Speaker 1: get the bites of the people, but you get into
37:15
Speaker 1: deeper conversations.
37:16
Speaker 2: But you notice some of the other people were saying,
37:18
Speaker 2: I don't trust that that money's going to go anywhere.
37:21
Speaker 1: Right, and it won't.
37:22
Speaker 4: With everything, with anything in this city, right?
37:26
Speaker 17: Everybody's speculating or skeptical of where the money actually goes.
37:31
Speaker 7: Yeah.
37:31
Speaker 4: With any topic we do.
37:33
Speaker 1: Well, they should be. The budget keeps going up and
37:36
Speaker 1: up and up, and services don't seem to be getting
37:38
Speaker 1: any better anymore. Natalie Migliore is going to be back
37:41
Speaker 1: the same time tomorrow with her beat on the street.