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The #Warriors quest to remain a dynasty in the #NBA has finally caught up with them. · The Facts with Jamal 🇺🇸🦅👊

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It's rare nowadays in professional sports that success
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is really a straightforward path.
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And I'm not necessarily talking about, you know, from an
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individual standpoint. I'm talking about the collective
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of a franchise. If you've noticed, there's not
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really many dynasties anymore. I mean sure you had the Florida
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Panthers in hockey who tried to go 3 in the row winning three
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straight Stanley Cups, but unfortunately they missed the
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playoffs. The LA Dodgers are trying to do
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the same thing in baseball after winning back-to-back World
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Series, although they have kind of hit a bump in the road.
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If you want to say it's that, I still give him a punch's chance.
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And of course, in the NFL, there has never been a team to ever
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win three straight Super Bowls. Now, mind you, the Green Bay
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Packers in the offense from Bali era won three straight NFL
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championships along with the two Super Bowls and 66 and 67.
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But if we're talking about strictly Super Bowls, there have
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been teams that have been the three in a row, but not one all
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three in them. And in the NBA, that's the
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cruxer form we're about to get you today.
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There hasn't been three in a row since the Kobe and Shaq Lakers
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of the 2000s. Many teams have tried to come
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close, but many have failed. Whether it was the Miami Big
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Three from a decade plus ago, or even the Warriors when they were
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on, their dynastic run fell short.
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That latter part is the focus of today.
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Here. The Warriors of this generation
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has cemented themselves as one of the NBA's great dynasties,
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winning 4 championships from 2015 to 2022, led by the
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greatest three points to many people's size.
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Is Steph Curry, a workmanlike Hall of Famer, and Draymond
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Green, one of the more undervalued 3 pointer
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specialists in his own writing. Klay Thompson and really being
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led by a coach in Steve Kerr, who has smelled himself as one
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of the best coaches over the last hand four years.
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But after 2022 is when everything starts to fall apart
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for that group. Now players come and go.
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That's not unusual. Even coaches that were once your
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top assistants get coaching jobs elsewhere.
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But I'm about to explain why the Warriors quest for still trying
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to be relevant the last couple years has haunted them in more
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ways than one, and how their thought process of still being a
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dynastic team has them, as far as the foreseeable future, in a
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really bad situation. After being Boston in the 2022
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NBA Finals, Golden State has cemented themselves with their
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4th championship at that time. But it was also the end of the
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core group of players. Aunt I had the dollar had
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finally walked away. Kevon Rooney had, despite being
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a role player, a key one in their championships, went
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elsewhere. And the cracks of the team, you
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can argue, start to show after they had won the championship
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the very next season. Jordan Poole, who had
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established himself as a promising player at the time and
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one of their key pieces on the bench after winning the
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championship, was subsequently punched by Draymond during a
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preseason workout, which, if you hadn't seen by that point, you
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can go look for yourself now. We know Draymond has always had
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his moments. That's me being kind, but that's
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not exactly the way you want to try to start your season if
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you're trying to defend your tie.
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One other key problem for the Warriors that year in particular
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was that there was some wormings about is this team gonna be able
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to win a fifth tie now, even though they had the nucleus, at
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least a couple of them that were part of all four, those
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championship teams, you could tell immediately things just did
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not. It just wasn't going to be the
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same after that. Despite another great regular
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season, the Warriors finished nearly in the play and finishing
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in the sixth spot in the first round they went up against
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Sacramento who made the playoffs after a decade plus drought.
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The young Kings gave the Warriors all they could handle.
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The Golden State's experience prevailed them in the drilling 7
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game series. But then any hope for a possible
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title defence came to an end in the semi finals when the Lakers,
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led by LeBron James and Austin Reeves, ended Golden State's
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quest for repeat and the Semi finals.
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Now again, we haven't had a repeat champion in the last
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eight years now with the Knicks winning the championship back in
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June. But a lot of people thought
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that, well, even though Golden State had fallen the show
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against the Lakers, they would be right back in the mix for
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another title, right? And that's when another tip of
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the iceberg start the fall after that, Klay Thompson, one of
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their franchise cornerstones and a guy that was a part of the
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team when Joe Laker bought the Warriors a decade plus early in
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2011, the franchise felt that Thompson had seen better days.
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They felt that, along with what they felt was the menacing of
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his skills. Many felt that his significant
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entry in the 2019 Finals against Serrano contributed to that, and
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the Warriors didn't think he was worth investing in long term as
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a key part of the franchise going forward.
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So he ended up going to Dallas not long after that.
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GM and architect Bob Myers, who had been such an integral part
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of building that team, who stepped down that offseason and
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went to join ESPN for a couple of years before being hired by
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Philadelphia to help one of their basketball OPS this
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offseason. And this was another thing that
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was so flagrantly obvious as to why the Warriors eventual demise
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and eventual uncertain future will come into play a little
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later. Even with the success of the
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team at that point, it was clearly an older team that was
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going to have to eventually rely on younger talent.
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The problem was, if you go back and look at the Warriors draft
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picks in recent memory, a lot of them, let's just say what's a
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mixed bag. From James Wiseman to Brandon
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Forzynski to John Poole to Jonathan Kaminga, Moses Moody
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and a long line of others. The guys that was supposed to be
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a part of the next iteration of the team never was really able
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to get the keys to the franchise consistently.
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And what I mean by that was knowing that Steph and now
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Draymond were gonna be really the two to focus on, you
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would've thought it would've been ideal to get some of the
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younger core players an opportunity to kind of let them
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develop and see what they can do, right?
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Apparently, Steve Kerr, Mike down, really Junior, who was now
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the GM after Bob Meyer stepped down in the scouting personnel
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department, didn't agree within what it seemed like a span of a
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couple of years. All those draft lobby names that
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I had mentioned, we're not even on the team anymore.
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Well outside of you know, Petchevsky and Rudy, but the
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names wise men Jonathan Kaminga and join Pool who unfortunately
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was on that long end of the punch by Draymond Green have
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been completely off the team by that point.
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This is past season, if you will, and it wouldn't be long
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after that you see why you had to.
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If your Golden State start to turn the franchise over to young
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cast the players the following season, you know it was clear
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that Golden State has seen better days.
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Now mind you, they were still competitive the next two
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seasons, but they were nowhere near the team that had firmly
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established themselves as the dynasty they were just a decade
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prior. But this past past season, right
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2526, that is when the wheels completely fell off.
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Golden State the year prior in the 2025 season, had acquired
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Jimmy Butler as a veteran name that he hoped that his
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experience being in the finals to help that team get back to
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where they were. But then that didn't translate
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to them having much success in the playoffs.
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And then there was the offseason after that really thing started
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to spill over between a divide of Steve Kerr and what was
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supposed to be one of their promising players.
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Jonathan Kamenga, as I mentioned, was a slew of Lolli
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picks that was supposed to be the next iteration of the
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franchise, and for whatever reason, he just kept being in
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Steve Kerr's proverbial dog house.
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And even when this past, not this offseason but the previous
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one when Kaminga contract was done, Steve Cook wasn't exactly
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in all with the idea of bringing him back for whatever reason for
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a distance. I never understood why I
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couldn't play Comingo all that much.
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I can kind of see to an extent how he kind of have points,
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specially after Comingo was moved to Atlanta.
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But this year, but my thinking was he's supposed to be one of
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your players for the future. Only way you're going to be able
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to see what he's capable of, you give him an opportunity to play,
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right? Yeah.
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That didn't necessarily pan out. There were rumors that offseason
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whether or not Kamenga was even going to be with the Warriors
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'cause remember, he was a restricted free agent.
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So me, any team that tried to sign him, the Warriors could
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easily match. And it even got so bad to where
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there were clashing of words. I guess Eagles taking a huge hit
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here and by the time this past season came and rolled around,
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it started to show itself not just with the Kamenga situation,
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but how Golden State's quest to try stay a dynastic team
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completely has backfired. See, Jimmy Butler earlier in the
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season has suffered a significant knee injury that
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forced him to miss the rest of the season.
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And Steph Curry and Draymond obviously being the older Fets
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they are, miss their share of time as well.
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Even despite having guys like Al Horford and the Mets who
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actually was serviceable for the Warriors this past season, even
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he missed time. So you would figure that while
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it's time to finally let the young guys play, right, even
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though Kuminga had gone his spots every now and then up
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until he was moved, it just felt like it was more so Kurt having
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been forced to play him 'cause some of his key guys were out.
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And I'm not going to lie to you, outside of Gary Payton the
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second I cannot in a Patinsky and even Moody, I could not even
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tell you one other name from that Warrior's death that I know
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of and that we are this ugly head.
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Once Butler was lost for the season entirely, Kaminga was
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soon not long after that before the trade deadline was moved to
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Atlanta. And Long story short, this is
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really how the Warriors season could be summed up in one way.
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When they were on the road to play the Knicks at MSG one
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afternoon, their lineup was essentially a minor league
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roster. And by that I mean AG League
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team. I mean, that's yeah.
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And I actually remember watching the game itself.
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I remember thinking, who the hell are these guys that are out
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there for Golden State outside of, you know, some of the names
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that I mentioned, 'cause I was like, wow, 'cause remember Curry
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Green, a horse that I believe didn't play in that game.
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And so Golden State had to try out their guys that were, you
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can say, pretty much all bench players.
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And yeah, it was that ugly. But despite all of that, the
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Warriors were still within the range to be in the play offs
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because they were in the play in scenario.
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Unfortunately, the number of injuries, the serious lack of
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real death, and the toll of being an older team at that
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point, particularly to the two franchise players finally called
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to them as Phoenix Suns ended Golden State season in the first
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playing game, effectively eliminating the Warriors from
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playoff. Now, am I surprised that Golden
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State ultimately missed the playoffs?
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Well, considering the fact that they were even able to be in the
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play in spot, considering all the injuries, that's actually
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remarkable on their part. But again, this is ultimately
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what ends up happening. We still believe that you are
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the team you were from a decade prior, that you're not anymore,
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and that you have finally started to see why that is.
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Now don't get me wrong, all of this or a good majority of it,
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should go to Steve Kerr for that reason.
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Now, if you heard me earlier talk about why he never really
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let any of the guys that was supposed to be the next crop for
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the franchise finally take off for one reason or another.
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He never trusted them. You see, he couldn't.
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He wanted to go with the facts. The guys that had either helped
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him win championships or even the guys that won apart those
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dynastic, that dynastic run from different teams.
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He wanted to go with them. He didn't feel as comfortable
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trusting the younger players with opportunities even as high
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as they were drafted, Kerr still felt.
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You go with the veterans stalwarts and look.
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For all the success that Kerr has had in Golden State these
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last four years, now has essentially shown major flaws in
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really his coaching style. His reluctance of not playing
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younger players, relying on the feds until literally the wheels
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fall off and in a lot of cases, being stubborn to the idea that
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he knows what he's doing. Not counting obviously some of
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his political bias, but I'm not going to go there.
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He, in a lot of ways has become his own worst enemy.
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And I thought after this season, past season, that I thought they
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were going part ways with him. I'm not going to lie to you.
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I thought Joe, wake up, Mike Dunleavy, Junior and Steve Kerr.
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I thought they were going to have a sit down meeting to
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discuss where this franchise is going.
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And if you saw, I believe it was that last game for Golden State
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where Steph and Draymond were really embracing Kurt kind of
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acts like a swan song, if you will, that this could be it for
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me. I could, you know, mutually
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agree to leave the franchise. This, you know, I thought
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initially that was it. I thought Kurt was going to be
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on Golden State and that would be the end all be apparently.
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And I don't have a problem with making this.
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Apparently I was wrong because Kurt is coming back for let's
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say another 2-3 years with the franchise.
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OK, I guess I can understand considering there's not many, to
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be honest, coaches out there in the NBA, even to an extent in
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college that you will look at and say we should be talking
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about that guy a lot more. But really, and again, This is
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why Steve Kerr has to absorb a lot to blame for this.
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Him not being willing to play younger players and give them an
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opportunity has caused you to say, Steph, an opportunity to
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win champions. Now in Draymond's case, he's
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back with the Warriors, presumably for this season.
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Now, could he betrayed our Golden State?
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Well, remember, he was on, according to Sean Savaya, on the
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train block at one point. But that was really about as far
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as it went. I never really thought he was
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going to be moved anyway. It would have had to take like a
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last second surprise for that to be the case.
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But as far as you know, Steph Curry, think about from this
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perspective. I mean, he's been with that
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franchise since 2009. He know he has been, you can
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argue the heartbeat of the franchise throughout that
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dynastic run, OK. But the reality is he is getting
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up there in age and with the Warriors franchise facing at
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this moment a real uncertain future as far as what are they
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going to be, let's say 2 years down the line and more so this
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season. Could this be maybe a sign that
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Steph could potentially want out in Golden State?
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And look, while I don't have any doubt he may want to finish his
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career with Golden State, he's also got to come.
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He's also got to realize I am probably going to spend whatever
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the last of my prime is on a team that's not winning,
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probably won't be in the playoffs and it's facing really
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kind of a rebuild. Now, look, as far as the season
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goes, I have no idea what will happen for the Warriors as far
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as the win, loss, record. The one thing I can tell you, he
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said don't be surprised if maybe not this season, but sooner be
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the one after. If Steph decides to say, you
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know what, I'm having second thoughts about wanting to be
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here. I wanna try to win the 5th
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championship if possible. I might want a change in
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direction as far as going elsewhere.
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Don't be surprised if that happens.
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And look, wow, you know Steph probably won't ever want it.
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I think he even knows the handwriting's on the wall.
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Not so much as far as his career, 'cause when healthy, he
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could still get it done. OK, But it's more or less about,
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do I foresee myself being with this organization for the long
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term? Do I want to be here knowing
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that this franchise is going to go to another turbulent period
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for the foreseeable time? And look, when you're as
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grateful players staff is, you don't want to leave the
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franchise. You essentially help wrestle
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rack. That's just, you know how it
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goes. But if the Warriors were to
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really bottom out next season, oh it's upcoming season rally
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and let's say the year after they get off to a slow start,
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then Steph's going to have to realize maybe I should lead to
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try winning our championship if I can.
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There's a reason why dynasties in sports don't always last
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forever, especially as I mentioned in the NBA, more so
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because we have not had a repeat champion.
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Now ironically, since the Warriors, we've had now 8
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different champions from 8 different teams the last couple
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of seasons. And while it's really hard to
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say at this moment, you know why that is the case as far as you
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know, different teams winning and all that.
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And I actually think it's good for the NBA.
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The bottom line is in all sports, diocese don't last
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forever. I mean, think about how
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impressive the Patriots run was, you know, back a couple years
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then. So they had two, you can say
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elevations of their dynasty. The first part took place is
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when they won three Super Bowls in four years.
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OK, but remember from 2004 to 2014, when the second iteration
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came around, they had gone 11 years without a Super Bowl
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victory. Now they had got into two of
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those Super Bowls, but they had lost to the Giants in both
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instances. And then when the second
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iteration came, they won three Super Bowls in six years along
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with 4 appearances, ironically, Well, maybe not ironically as
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far as the years, but four Super Bowl appearances in six years,
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winning three of those. OK, so in the Patriots, you
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know, case, this wasn't just like a year by year thing where
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it was continuing. No, that that gay gap between a
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last Super Bowl from the first dynasty run if to the second
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relation. That was over a decade.
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And as I mentioned, there hasn't been a repeat three years in a
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row champion in the NBA since the Kobe and Shack Lakers.
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It's been since the Yankees from 1998 to 2000 in baseball and
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from the New York Islanders of the 1980s, winning three
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straight in a row in four straight overall in the early
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80s. And obviously in the NFL, there
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hasn't been a team that's won three straight Super Bowls.
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But in the Warriors case, and this is where unfortunately they
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only have themselves to play, them still believe, and they are
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that team that they were from over a decade ago, believing
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that they're always going to be in the mix has finally caught up
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with them. Them not giving the keys to the
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franchise to younger players and keep relying on the old veterans
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has shown itself really more so the last three years.
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Injuries galore, top assistant coaches coming and going in a
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franchise facing now a murky future.
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You just have to ask yourself one question.
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Has Golden State's quest to continue to stay relevant
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ultimately has resulted in them being less than what they were
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from that get go? The answer?
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Unfortunately, you will have to say yes.