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Artemis III Booster Is Heading to KSC · Made of Stars

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  Speaker 1: Warning. The following podcast contains an entertaining look at astronomy, physics,
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  Speaker 1: and space news throughout the known universe. Listeners have been
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  Speaker 1: known to learn about astronomical phenomenon, the scientific method, and
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: When made of stars, made them stars, madies. When madea stars,
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  Speaker 3: you could be from high they would New Mexicomus. Where
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  Speaker 3: are stars?
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  Speaker 4: When we are made of stars?
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  Speaker 5: I'm Wes Carol, joined by my good friend doctor Sean
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  Speaker 5: Cruising from Columbus State Universities Coca Cola Space Science Center.
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  Speaker 2: Hay Sean, Hey, well, it's good to be here this morning.
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  Speaker 5: Look, I don't want to make light of anything. I
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  Speaker 5: just feel it's maybe necessary to just put this out there,
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  Speaker 5: just you know, we're on the periphery of all of this,
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  Speaker 5: but because of what we do here, I think it's
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  Speaker 5: very important to just stress. Just based on what we
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  Speaker 5: do on this show every week, Neither of us is suicidal,
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  Speaker 5: has any plans to disappear from the face of the
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  Speaker 5: Earth for any period of time, and we love our
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  Speaker 5: families and would never do anything to hurt ourselves because
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  Speaker 5: of that. I just think we should get that out there,
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  Speaker 5: because there's some weird stuff going on. We're not really
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  Speaker 5: going to do a whole thing about it today, but
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  Speaker 5: there's some weird stuff going on. And then you get
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  Speaker 5: a guy who's like an author who like this week,
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  Speaker 5: who talks about aliens, and then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 5: like he takes his own life according to.
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  Speaker 6: What they say, it's just weird.
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  Speaker 5: There's weird stuff happening with people in the rocket science business,
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  Speaker 5: with people in the you know, alien tech conversation. It's
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  Speaker 5: just a strange place to be. I just wanted to
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  Speaker 5: get the disclaimer out there.
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  Speaker 2: So two things about that. Number One, the reason we're
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  Speaker 2: not going to spend a lot of time on this
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  Speaker 2: podcast discussing it is because we have nothing to add
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  Speaker 2: to the conversation.
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  Speaker 6: Nothing.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know anything, right yep. And so maybe the
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  Speaker 2: second point about that is to anyone who might be
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  Speaker 2: listening who thinks we know anything, we don't know anything.
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  Speaker 6: We know nothing.
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  Speaker 2: So we just don't know anything. We're not privy to anything,
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  Speaker 2: we don't have any friends who know anything. Just leave
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  Speaker 2: the humble hosts of this podcast alone.
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  Speaker 5: We're going to talk about things if they're in the news.
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  Speaker 5: That's all we're going to do when it comes to
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  Speaker 5: you know, we didn't really get anywhere near the alien
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  Speaker 5: conversation until folks in Congress we're talking about it, and
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  Speaker 5: then we were like, well, we kind.
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  Speaker 6: Of have to talk about this now.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, closest we came to talk about and talking
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  Speaker 5: about it in the past was like the whole Tabby
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  Speaker 5: Star thing when it's like, is it something around us.
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  Speaker 6: Like man made or or alien made or whatever whatever
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  Speaker 6: you call him. I don't know what you call him.
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  Speaker 5: I said man made, but it could have been you know, grebdar,
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  Speaker 5: the alien whatever, that species.
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  Speaker 2: Is corrupted by intelligent life for them.
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  Speaker 5: There you go, that's the that's why we have you around.
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  Speaker 5: You're the science guy. But we just talk about it
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  Speaker 5: when it's something that comes up in the But I
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  Speaker 5: just felt like maybe it was worth mentioning.
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  Speaker 2: So it's weird, right, it is so weird, so we
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  Speaker 2: could just say it. It's a little like and listen,
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  Speaker 2: I was hearing I was, you know, hearing this story
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  Speaker 2: kind of in the background when it was only like
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  Speaker 2: half a dozen.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, now we're up to eleven, and I don't even
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  Speaker 5: know if that counts the guy this week at maybe twelve,
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  Speaker 5: if you count him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And like, I didn't realize, you know, that podcasters
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  Speaker 2: were a threat.
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  Speaker 5: I just want to get it out there, that's all,
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  Speaker 5: because sometimes, you know, just being somewhere on the branch
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  Speaker 5: of the tree in some capacity, you just want to say, look,
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  Speaker 5: we know nothing, we're not making trouble, grebdar, just leave
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  Speaker 5: us alone. Or you know, we have nothing to do
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  Speaker 5: with nuclear technology, leave us alone. Like those are the
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  Speaker 5: things that need to be clarified. And we've done it.
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  Speaker 5: And I think now I'm satisfied that, you know. But
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  Speaker 5: I also think some of these people that have disappeared
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  Speaker 5: or died have done the same kind of thing, Like
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  Speaker 5: we don't know, I don't know. I don't The one
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  Speaker 5: guy just left town, like he just left his phone
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  Speaker 5: at home and just left, and his family's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: he just told us that he didn't want.
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  Speaker 6: To be found. Weird, what is that? Who is he
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  Speaker 6: afraid of?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: So anyway, that's allegedly.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure that those nefarious individuals who may or may
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  Speaker 2: not be involved with they may or may not be conspiracy,
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  Speaker 2: don't listen to this podcast. But if they do.
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  Speaker 6: We know nothing.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know a thing.
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  Speaker 5: We have no theories. We just think like most people.
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  Speaker 5: We think it's weird.
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  Speaker 2: That's I'm a mid level manager in a state system.
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  Speaker 2: I really have no special knowledge about any kind of
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  Speaker 2: government programs.
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  Speaker 6: I own a small business and I'm the only employee.
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  Speaker 6: So how about that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad we could establish this. It's important we.
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  Speaker 6: Lay the foundation for it, and then that's what we got.
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  Speaker 6: That's established.
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  Speaker 5: We're good so we can talk about things that don't
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  Speaker 5: relate to specifically nuclear secrets or aliens. When we talk
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  Speaker 5: first and foremost on the show today about Artemis three,
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  Speaker 5: big moment as we were there for the Artemis two
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  Speaker 5: core stage arrival at Kennedy's Space Center, it made it
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  Speaker 5: feel ill personal. When the thing launched right, there was
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  Speaker 5: a certain connection we had to it. And now this,
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  Speaker 5: like each of these launches, becomes a little bit more important,
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  Speaker 5: and here we go, this is Artemis three.
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  Speaker 2: We were there, but we had no special knowledge of
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  Speaker 2: that program.
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  Speaker 5: I just realized I made us look, I made us
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  Speaker 5: look more important than we were.
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  Speaker 2: We were there in the Peanut gallery.
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  Speaker 6: That's right.
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  Speaker 5: There were lots of other people there, science journalists, who
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  Speaker 5: know a little bit about science and want to report
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  Speaker 5: on things. Yes, and I guess if we get word
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  Speaker 5: that NASA Nigel has an issue, we know we may
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  Speaker 5: be in the crosshairs.
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  Speaker 6: That's all we can really know.
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  Speaker 2: Like I think NASA Nigel might have actually known stuff.
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  Speaker 5: He knows more than both of us combined. But so
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  Speaker 5: one very very dedicated member of the press who was
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  Speaker 5: there or visit him. He owned every piece of paraphernalia
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  Speaker 5: and clothing that we we have no specific knowledge, but
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  Speaker 5: I suspect if they make NASA underwear he was wearing them.
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  Speaker 5: He might have been wearing a diaper that day like
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  Speaker 5: an astronaut, just so he would not have to leave
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  Speaker 5: his post for the sit around and wait coverage of.
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  Speaker 6: The arrival of the Foodster rocket.
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  Speaker 5: But anyway, yeah, he was pretty committed. But the Artemis
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  Speaker 5: three is now en route.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to the news. So here is the news,
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  Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, the latest on the Artemis program. Within
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  Speaker 2: less than a month from sending human beings around the
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  Speaker 2: Moon for the first time in over fifty years, NASA
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  Speaker 2: has rolled out the next core stage for a new
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  Speaker 2: Moon rocket. It is the Artemis three Core stage. It
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  Speaker 2: rolled out from the Meshow Center NASA Center in New Orleans.
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  Speaker 2: It is now on a barge floating through the Gulf
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  Speaker 2: of America around the Florida Peninsula up to Kennedy's Space
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  Speaker 2: Center within about a week or so. They're not really
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  Speaker 2: jumping on dates right now for that. And I say
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  Speaker 2: it's a moon rocket. It is actually a moon rocket,
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  Speaker 2: although its destination will not be the Moon. Artemis three,
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  Speaker 2: since Jared Isa came in and kind of recalibrated NASA's
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  Speaker 2: Artemis program a little bit, Artemist three is going to
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  Speaker 2: be a mission to low Earth orbit to test a
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  Speaker 2: variety of systems that we need to test before going
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  Speaker 2: to the Moon. That's the new prioritization. So Artemis three
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  Speaker 2: should launch mid twenty twenty seven, that's the plan, so
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  Speaker 2: you know, just a little bit more than a year
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  Speaker 2: from now, and that's a pretty short timeline, so that's
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  Speaker 2: that's optimistic. And you know, hey, they've been hitting timelines lately,
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  Speaker 2: so so it really could they need to stay on
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  Speaker 2: that timeline if they want to launch Artemis four to
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  Speaker 2: the surface of the Moon prior to the end of
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight, which you me know, the reason why, well,
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  Speaker 2: we won't jump into that too much. But so the
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  Speaker 2: idea is that is there, that is their cadence, that's
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  Speaker 2: the cadence that they hope to hit. And certainly getting
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  Speaker 2: this main core stage of the rocket for Artemis three
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  Speaker 2: out of the Mishoot facility heading for Kennedy Space Center
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  Speaker 2: is important. Now. Lori Glaze is the acting Associate Administrator
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  Speaker 2: for Exploration Systems Development Mission Directorate at NASA. She had
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  Speaker 2: this quote, quote, Seeing this SLS rocket hardware roll out
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  Speaker 2: is a powerful reminder of our progress toward returning humans
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  Speaker 2: to the lunar surface. This is the backbone of Artemis
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  Speaker 2: three as it heads to Florida for final integration. We
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  Speaker 2: are one step closer to testing the critical capabilities needed
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  Speaker 2: to land Americans on the Moon and ultimately paving the
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  Speaker 2: way for our first crude missions to Mars. Unquote, So
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  Speaker 2: there you go. That's from Lori Glaze, acting Associate ad
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  Speaker 2: Minister Administrator for Exploration Systems Mission Directorate at NASA. So
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  Speaker 2: so she's referring to the two hundred and thirty two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and twelve foot tall core stage, which is capable
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  Speaker 2: of holding up to seven hundred and thirty three gallons.
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  Speaker 2: I said seven hundred and thirty three. I missed some
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  Speaker 2: zeros seven hundred and thirty three thousand gallons of super
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  Speaker 2: chilled liquid propellant. So that's how much cryogenic fuel that
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  Speaker 2: that rocket stage is ready to feed to the four
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  Speaker 2: RS twenty five engines down at the bottom. Not included,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, So they still have to mount those
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  Speaker 2: engines at Kennedy when it gets there. So so you know,
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  Speaker 2: when you read not included, batteries not included on the box,
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  Speaker 2: engines not included on this course stage that's gonna get there,
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  Speaker 2: there's gonna be a big sign on the side that
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  Speaker 2: says engines not included.
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  Speaker 5: I hope they're aware. I mean they've they've launched the
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  Speaker 5: thing a couple of times. I think they may be aware.
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  Speaker 5: Engines not included.
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  Speaker 2: I hope, what are the heck are the engines?
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  Speaker 6: You said we were getting the engines this time.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't realize you had to have engines for
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  Speaker 2: this thing. I hope the convenience stores open on Christmas
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  Speaker 2: Day they have their RS twenty five engines because they're
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  Speaker 2: not included in the package.
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  Speaker 5: So this the next step towards Artemis four, which will
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  Speaker 5: actually put boots on.
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  Speaker 6: The ground again on the Moon.
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  Speaker 5: And that's why I say we're getting progressively, Like each
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  Speaker 5: one has a little bit more at stake, Each each
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  Speaker 5: of the launches has a little bit more at stake.
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  Speaker 6: You kind of glossed over it.
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  Speaker 5: And I understand there's reasons why people are sensitive about things,
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  Speaker 5: but I just historically speaking, was it so controversial when
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  Speaker 5: Kennedy made the same kind of like, I want to
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  Speaker 5: make this happen in my I want to make this happen,
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  Speaker 5: you know, let's make this a thing. And the fact
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  Speaker 5: that we now have a president who I understand is controversial,
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  Speaker 5: but all he's done really is kind of you know,
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  Speaker 5: he he's channeling Kennedy by going I want to do
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  Speaker 5: this during my administration. And I do think part of
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  Speaker 5: that is because he wonders whether or not another like
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  Speaker 5: the next administration, if it is not one that sees
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  Speaker 5: things the way he does, we'll continue forward with it.
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  Speaker 5: But like the fact that I don't know, the very
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  Speaker 5: fact that we had anybody that's an American on American
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  Speaker 5: soil that was hoping something would go wrong with Artemis
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  Speaker 5: two just so it would look bad on our president
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  Speaker 5: makes me embarrassed to be an American or a human
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  Speaker 5: being and all of those things. But I mean, was
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  Speaker 5: it controversial in any way? And I understand Kennedy was
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  Speaker 5: not Donald Trump. I get that, and there's a very
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  Speaker 5: big difference there. But this kind of forward thinking of
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  Speaker 5: let's get this done in my presidency, I mean, is
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  Speaker 5: it so controversial other than the fact of who said it?
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  Speaker 2: So I will tell you this. First of all, we
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  Speaker 2: love to look back at the John F. Kennedy speeches
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  Speaker 2: about putting people on the moon and what that would
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  Speaker 2: mean to our country, to our economy, to our just
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  Speaker 2: the inspiration it provides to the next generation of space explorers.
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  Speaker 2: And it's really great because his words are so fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: I just love people who speak that way, who have
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  Speaker 2: a vision and who want to use their assets, their
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  Speaker 2: capabilities to inspire another generation to do great things. But yes,
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  Speaker 2: the Apollo program was controversial, right. It was happening in
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  Speaker 2: a controversial time in America, quite honestly, So I think
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  Speaker 2: that part maybe gets a little glossed over, a little forgotten.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, to the victor of Gow the spoils, right,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, so they were succeeding, and so we have
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  Speaker 2: positive memories about that. Okay, second thing, remember that the
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  Speaker 2: Artemis program is really it's really the legacy project from
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  Speaker 2: the Obama administration. It's really also being carried through the
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  Speaker 2: Biden administration. The Trump administration did have, you know, a
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  Speaker 2: couple of different opportunities to contribute, obviously the split terms
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  Speaker 2: of Donald J. Trump. But this is clearly a project
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  Speaker 2: that was begun during the Obama administration when the ARES
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  Speaker 2: program was canceled and we stopped building the rocket that
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  Speaker 2: was associated with the ARES program, and we switched to
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  Speaker 2: the Space Launch System the SLS and all of its
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  Speaker 2: use of Space Shuttle parts, which is why we close
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  Speaker 2: down the Space Shuttle mission. So the idea is it's
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  Speaker 2: not just one president on projects like this. Multiple administrations
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  Speaker 2: have to contribute. NASA has to be able to operate
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  Speaker 2: on a longer version time scale than just four year cadence.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's why, you know, no one president can
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  Speaker 2: really take credit for it, and no one president can
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  Speaker 2: really take blame for it. This is a multi year project,
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  Speaker 2: and and you know, quite honestly, there's reason to give
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  Speaker 2: the Obama administration credit absolutely when when the Artemis program
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  Speaker 2: lands on the Moon, because they're the ones that decided
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  Speaker 2: to switch low Earth orbit to commercial companies like SpaceX,
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  Speaker 2: like Boeing and say, hey, we want to focus our
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  Speaker 2: attention on going to the going to the Moon, or
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  Speaker 2: on to Mars. Right. So, that mission shift happened during
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  Speaker 2: the Obama administration, and it has led to the success
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  Speaker 2: we saw here in April for Artemis two and the
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  Speaker 2: potential success of landing human beings back on the moon
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  Speaker 2: for Artemis four.
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  Speaker 5: And it was the Trump administration who then said, hey,
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  Speaker 5: we want boots on the ground, we want a woman,
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  Speaker 5: we want a person of color, we want those you know,
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  Speaker 5: representation when it comes to who you know actually gonna
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  Speaker 5: set foot on the moon again, I feel like maybe
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  Speaker 5: this would have all been pushed forward a little bit
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  Speaker 5: sooner personally if he hadn't had the split term. So
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  Speaker 5: this is one of those things that feels like everybody
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  Speaker 5: should be celebrating and high fiving together, but we know
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  Speaker 5: that's just not how everything works anymore, sadly so, and again,
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  Speaker 5: if you were hoping for some sort of a disaster
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  Speaker 5: during Artemis too, you're a horrible human being.
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  Speaker 6: And that's just my two cents on it. More were
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  Speaker 6: made of stars right after this, and.
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  Speaker 5: Let's talk about the Roman space Telescope, the Nancy Grace
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  Speaker 5: Roman space telescope. And this is not the you know
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  Speaker 5: now guy, they're missing girls, we gotta find them.
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  Speaker 6: It's not her. It's a different, different Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, there are more than one, thankfully.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, if they point it back in Earth and
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  Speaker 5: they use it to find missing girls, I'm all for it.
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  Speaker 6: We need that.
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  Speaker 5: I want to know where the missing people are, and
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  Speaker 5: Nancy Grace wants to know, and she's made a career
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  Speaker 5: out of it.
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  Speaker 6: Good for her. She's doing doing the Lord's work in
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  Speaker 6: that regard. Right.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, this telescope not named after that particular Nancy
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  Speaker 2: Grace to whom you're referring. There's another Nancy Grace and
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  Speaker 2: she has a last name named Roman. So Nancy Grace
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  Speaker 2: Roman was an American astronomer who pioneered research into stellar
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  Speaker 2: motion and stellar classification. So she's studied stars, but she
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  Speaker 2: was also someone who worked for NASA who had key
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  Speaker 2: pivotal roles in bringing the Hubble Space Telescope project to fruition,
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  Speaker 2: and so she got nicknamed them of Hubble quote unquote
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  Speaker 2: mother of Hubble sounds like sounds like something you want
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  Speaker 2: on your motorcycle jacket or something like Mother of Hubble.
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  Speaker 6: I would take that title any day. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 6: i'd wear the T shirt.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, and yeah, you should anyway. So Nancy Grace, Roman,
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  Speaker 2: American astronomer, Stellar Classification, Mother of Hubble, that's who the
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  Speaker 2: telescope is actually named after. So let's just call it
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  Speaker 2: the Roman Space Telescope, and we'll make it easier.
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  Speaker 5: That does make it, because then I don't have to
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  Speaker 5: think about y'all. I'm nothing against y'all. I say y'all,
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  Speaker 5: it happens. We live in the South, but you know,
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  Speaker 5: we don't have to think about her saying y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I've never tried to do a Nancy Grace's voice before,
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  Speaker 5: though I think I was kind of I.
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  Speaker 6: Was in the general ballpark.
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  Speaker 2: I knew what you meant.
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  Speaker 5: That's all I need, and I don't need to be
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  Speaker 5: you know, Frank Caliendo. I just need somebody to know
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  Speaker 5: what I'm talking about and then we can move on.
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  Speaker 5: But so this is different than the other telescopes that
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  Speaker 5: are currently in service, and it's bringing something a little
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  Speaker 5: different to the mens.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's a couple of interesting points about this one.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: So I will tell you I'll tell you some stats,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: not stats, but i'll tell you some points of interest
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: for this particular telescope. It was first named the Wide
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Field Infrared Survey Telescope w first. That's back when NASA
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: proposed it back in two thousand and ten. Now we
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: were just talking about the subject of the need for
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: long term support for multiple presidents in order to get
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: important space space missions accomplished. This is one of those, right.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: So this is something that the groundwork began back in
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: twenty ten, and it is just now being announced this
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: week that NASA has completed the instrument. It's done, it's finished,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: it's ready to be taken to a launch facility and
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: put into space, which will hopefully happen, you know, sometime soon,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: maybe as early as September. So this, this telescope is
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: a multi decatal project, right, It's really and again just
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: hat tipping to what we were just previously discussing, multiple
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: presidents should get credit for this instrument when it launches, right,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: And so sometimes projects just complete under certain administrations, but
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: they need the support and collaboration of multiple administrations to
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: get things like this done. Here's the second thing. If
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: I told you this, If I told you the space
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: telescope was headed to the L two lagrange point, and
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: that it observes the infrared part of the spectrum in
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: unprecedented detail, you might very well go, wait a minute,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: are you talking about the James web Space Telescope, Because
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: the James Webspace Telescope is a high resolution infrared telescope
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: that's orbiting with the Sun Earth Moon system at the
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: L two point. So you might get them confused. I
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: see why you might get them confused. And so if
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: you don't get them confused, you might say, well, why
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: did we build another one of those? Because we just
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: spent multi decades and way over budget to build the
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: James Webspace Telescope. Okay, so let me just make this
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: explanation very very clear. James web Space Telescope is designed
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: to look at little, tiny, highly magnified sections of the sky.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: It is a high magnification instrument. The Nancy Grace Roman
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Space Telescope, or on this show, the Roman Space Telescope,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: is not made to highly magnify small patches of sky.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: It is made to do a completely different job. It's
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: made to look at giant swaths of the sky in
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: high resolution so that we can do survey work. So
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: it's really it's you know, one of them is a hammer,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: one of them as a screwdriver. They are not the
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: same tool. They sound a lot alike. They sound like
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: they may have similar jobs. What they really have is
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: hand in hand complementary jobs. And also the observations from
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: this new telescope will complement those of the Hubble Space
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Telescope as well, So you're going to have three different
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: tools up there looking at different parts of the spectrum
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: in different resolutions, with different sizes of field. So that's
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: why these telescopes all can exist in scientific harmony up
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: there doing very different jobs for astronomers to help us
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: understand the nature of the universe. Now, the surveying that
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Nancy Grace Roman telescope will do is prior. I'm merely
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: aimed at some particular targets i should say for science,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: and that is the study of dark energy, dark matter,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: and exoplanets. So those are things we really want to
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: know a lot about. It can do other things as well,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: but its main research targets will be this mysterious material
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: known as dark energy. The mysterious material known as dark matter.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Those two things appear to be having different effects on
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: the universe, by the way, and looking for potential exoplanets,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: planets that orbit other stars, maybe those that could be habitable,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: maybe those that could be in their Goldilock zone and
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: support life. So that's that's what Nancy Grace Roman Space
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Telescope will be doing. And again it will be hand
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: in hand with JWST and HSD providing different views of
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: our amazing universe.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: We got to get used to calling that the Roman
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: because we're going to be talking about it for a while. So,
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: you know, we a you gotta get the yall out
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: of this.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: I think that's just I'm the one who keeps bringing
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: it up. But if we just call it Roman, I'll
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: just stick with it.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: So Japan has their mission to Phobos in preparation, arriving
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: at the launchpad and getting ready to make that journey
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: towards Mars.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a very interesting mission. It's got a
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: little bit different mission objective than many of the missions
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: that we have seen. This one is going to go
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: to the Martian System, but not to the planet Mars.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: It's going to go to the moon called Phobos. That's
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: one of the small potato shaped moon's, you know, kind
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: of asymmetric structure that's orbiting the planet Mars. Now, the
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Phobos moon is very interesting because that moon could be
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: a captured asteroid. That moon could be basically a time
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: capsule from the earliest part of the universe. It will
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: be very interesting to go there and explore the moon.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: But that's not all that this Japanese mission is sitting
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: out to do. The mission is called the mm X,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: and that is a acronym that stands for Martian Moons Exploration.
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: Mixed Martial Arts. No way, that's MMA.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: It's very close to mixed martial arts actually, and I'm
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: pretty sure that that is not even close to how
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: you say that in Japanese.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: Not even close.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: So somebody at the Japanese Space Agency says, hey, we
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: got to make up a name for these Americans, because
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: you know, they have podcasts and things and they need
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: to talk about it. So let's figure out an American
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: name that it sounds kind of cool. And you know,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: some bilingual Japanese person said, well, you know, we're going
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: to Mars and we're going to one of the Martian
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: moons and we're going to do some exploration. How about
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: we call it the Martian Moons Exploration Spacecraft.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: I have it here in Japanese.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to try to, you know, do the
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: accent or anything to go with it, because I don't
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: speak Japanese and I think I would probably brutalize it.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: But but if I'm reading it just phonetically based on
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: what the Japanese name for it is, it's the Nancy
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: Grace Mars Mission, y'all.
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: There's a y'all on the end of it. So anyway,
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: just thought i'd throw that in.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: There, searching for missing.
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: Phobians, That's right.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So an interesting place to study and really a
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: lot of uncertainty there about what they're going to find,
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: isn't it.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Here's the different part about this mission. They're not just
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: going there to study it. They're going there to grab
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: chunks of it, steal it, shoplift those chunks and bring
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: them back home. So this is going to be a
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: sample return mission from the Japanese Space Agency.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: Do they do this in a similar fashion to what
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: we have done with like Osirius Rex? Is it that
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: kind of Obviously it's a different thing that they're landing
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: on But is it a similar type process. Have they
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: learned something from how we've done that or did we
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: learn something from how they were going to do it?
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so both the Japanese Space Agency and NASA have
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: had similar kinds of sample return goals. Shall we say
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: that they were able to accomplish on different asteroids. Hayabusa
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: was the Japanese spacecraft that did that, Osyrus Rex was
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: the American spacecraft that did that. But they both did
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: something that was a little bit different. They just kind
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: of hovered over the surface, scooped up some material while
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: still in orbit around the surface of those asteroids, and
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: brought that material back home. So what's going to be
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: different about this Moon mission the moon Phobos in the
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Martian System is that the spacecraft, the MMX is actually
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: going to land on the surface. It's actually going to
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: take small little ziploc bags, fill them with material off
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: the surface of the moon Phobos we call that Phobos
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Regularith and bag it up and then lift back off
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: and come back home.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: So, so it actually has the ability to do all
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: of those things, to grab samples, to put them in
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: some kind of a sealed storage containment system, to bring
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: them back to Earth and so that scientists right here
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: in laboratories on planet Earth can study those materials. So
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: that's a very interesting mission that spacecraft. The reason we're
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: talking about it today is because it has actually arrived
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: at the launchpad the spaceport for the Japanese Space Agency.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Tanigashima is how you say that the name of that spaceport,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: So Tanigashima is an island. So MMX arrived at the
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: spaceport's island on March thirty first. It is now at
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: the actual space center, the spaceport itself, and it is
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: scheduled for liftoff this year, so sometime maybe November, maybe December,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: before the end of the year, and then it's trying
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: to do that because we're going to be about that
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: time in a twenty six month cadence of a near
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: approach of the planet Mars. We have to kind of
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: wait until Mars gets close to us before we shoot
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: our spacecraft at it. That launch window is going to
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: be open, it won't open again for another twenty six months,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: and so we got to kind of hit it while
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: the time is right. So that's why Japan is looking
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: at that November December date, you will probably see other
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Mars missions launching about that same period of time.
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: More made of stars.
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: Right after this, we had some kind of cool activity
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: on the Sun.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: This morning, something really interesting happened, which is this there
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: were two active regions, which are sunspot regions on the
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: surface of the Sun, that both had twisted, contorted magnetic fields.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: When that occurs, solar scientists begin to watch those active
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: regions because they're in a posture where they could erupt
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: at any minute. Well, the interesting thing that happened this
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: morning is one of them did explode. Now that's not
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: interesting by itself, because sunspots explode, so there was a
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: solar flare. But what happened that was interesting is another
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: sunspot group that was also very close to eruption, more
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: or less on the other side of the Sun. I
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: would say, at forty five degree angle if you imagine
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: the sphere around the Sun something about like that. It
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: exploded in what scientists are calling a sympathetic flare. It's
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: a magnetic chain reaction. It shows that there are what
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: scientists are calling teleconnections between the two sunspots. Their magnetic
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: fields are somehow connected, and when the very large eruption
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: occurred on one quadrant of the Sun. Interconnected magnetic fields
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: were tweaked in such a way that the other sunspot
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: group almost simultaneously erupted. And so this is a new
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: kind of process, a twin eruption, both of them in
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: the M one solar class flare range. Since both of
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: these are quasi facing at the Earth and happened simultaneously,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: their combined shockwave their CME is more or less earth
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: directed now and could actually trigger geomagnetic phenomenon here on
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: the Earth. That means, hey, you people in northern latitudes
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: be watching for northern lights, right So if you're listening
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: in the future future, you might go back to check
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: space weather and check their archive to see if any
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: kind of solar phenomenon occurred because of these storms honor
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: about the twenty fourth or twenty fifth of April twenty
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: twenty six. But we'll certainly be watching, you know. We
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: can all stay tuned and keep checking space weather over
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: the next say, seventy two hours to see if we're
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: gonna have any kind of possible Aurora Borealis activity due
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: to this twin solar flare erupting on the Sun.
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: We're a week closer than last show than that last
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: time when we talked about it to Music under the Dome,
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: a very special addition coming up at the beginning of May.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I love talking about the Music under the Dome Concert
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Series because it's just a bit unique and it's fun
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: and what it is. We're part of Columbus State University
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: here at Coca Cola Space Science Center and I'm on
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: the faculty in the Astrophysics Planetary Geology track in the
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Department of Urban Space Sciences. But on the other side
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: of campus is a fantastic music program called the Schwob
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: School of Music, and we have been collaborating with the
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Schwob School of Music for nearly ten years. We're almost
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: to it. It's about nine years right now. We'll have
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: our tenth anniversary next year of the Music under the
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Dome Concert Series, which is a concert performed by the
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Schwob School of Music musicians inside our planetarium here at
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Coca Cola Space Science Center. Now, already that's a pretty
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: special thing. We have choreographed graphics that are custom produced
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: for each concert showing up on the dome while those
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: brilliant performers from the Schwob School are down at the
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: bottom of the theater performing some fantastic music. Okay, that's
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: the kind of everyday music under the Dome concert. This
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: month coming up in May early May, May the fifth,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: we're going to have a Music under the Dome series concert.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: But it's a little bit different because we're bringing in
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: an external, outside musician. His name is Dan Tepfer. Dan
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Tepfer is one of the world's leading experts in interfacing
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: electronic keyboards and digital instruments with the actual projection of
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: visuals onto a large format projection systems like our Amosphere
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Theater planetarium. So Dan is a New York resident. He
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: travels the world performing these kinds of events where he's
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: playing some sort of a digital keyboard, but his keyboard
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: and his control systems are interfaced with the projection system,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: so they can create original graphics on the dome in
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: real time, not a movie prepared ahead of time. The
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: music is making the visuals. That's the important difference between
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: this music and the Dome concert and the typical ones.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Now Dan will be performing with students and faculty from
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: the Schwob School, so they will be joining him. That's
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: a little bit different than when Dan came last year
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: for the first time and performed solo, so there will
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: be Schwob School musicians involved. They'll be performing with Dan
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: in a program called Natural Machines. So the Natural Machines
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: program May the fifth, Tuesday, taking place at about five
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: thirty eight pm, not about exactly, we'll start it exactly
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: at five thirty eight pm, but the concert opens its
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: doors at five pm for a wine and cheese reception
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: and then you can jump in line and head into
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: the Omosphere and go see Natural Machines now. Friends, if
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: you haven't been to a Music under the Dome concert,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: this is a great place to start. This is a
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: fantastic introduction to the concept of the Music under the
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Dome series, and there are a handful of tickets left.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: I would move quickly if I were you. If you're
• 35:34
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• 35:37
  Speaker 2: you get the little bell and it dings and you say, oh,
• 35:39
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• 35:42
  Speaker 2: grab some tickets for the May fifth concert series Music
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: under the Dome this month featuring Dan Tepfer Natural Machines
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: in the Columbus State University Coca Cola Space Science Center
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Omnisphere theater. That's a lot of words, but just check
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• 36:04
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• 36:07
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