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There Will Be Blood part 2 · Cuff’s Basement

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Hey, Mr.
• 0:02
  Speaker 2: Daniel Plainview, get some oil for me. HW's not hearing,
• 0:09
  Speaker 2: and there is no place I'd want to go.
• 0:14
  Speaker 3: Who's that supposed to be?
• 0:15
  Speaker 2: That was supposed to be Jerry from In the Name
• 0:18
  Speaker 2: of the Father.
• 0:18
  Speaker 3: I think you got your voices scrambled there. Really? Yeah,
• 0:24
  Speaker 3: I would look back into the... Dawg? There he is. Dawg?
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: I want to show you something, da.
• 0:31
  Speaker 3: No, Jer.
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: Jer, you got to stop it. You're my son. No, da.
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing it this time. I don't believe you, Jer. Anyways,
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: that was for Kevin. Welcome back. We're talking about... We're
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: talking about.
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: From movie plots to vinyl spins. Every session more than friends.
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: Eyes locked tight as the show begins. Electric vibes that
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: never end. From underground films to favorite songs.
• 1:03
  Speaker 3: That was an unintentional theme song for us. Oh, right.
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: Like Hook, the Hook episodes, which were ruined by me
• 1:09
  Speaker 2: playing the theme song a thousand times. Andy Juno texted me,
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: this is the only time the podcast description has been accurate,
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: because I wrote, I ruined the episode by accidentally playing
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: the theme song multiple times. We're back. We're talking about.
• 1:24
  Speaker 3: We've been back for like nine minutes.
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: It's been 190 seconds right now. Ryan, what movie are
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: we talking about?
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: There Will Be Blood.
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: There Will Be Blood. And this is about....
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: An oil man.
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: An oil man. I'm an oil man. And we're here
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: with my brother-in-law. My only brother. Well, actually, Brian's a brother-in-law,
• 1:50
  Speaker 2: but my only brother. And he has hair as black
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: as oil. And his name is Mr. Kevin DiPietri.
• 1:58
  Speaker 3: Hello again.
• 1:59
  Speaker 2: How you doing?
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: Couldn't be better.
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: We're still doing this movie. Yeah. And where we left off....
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: Was post-explosion.
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: Post-explosion.
• 2:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: Yup.
• 2:13
  Speaker 2: And they... So, I don't understand how they fixed this,
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: but the wooden oil derrick caught on fire and, like, collapsed.
• 2:21
  Speaker 2: And they just, like, blow it up?
• 2:22
  Speaker 1: I think they blow it up to bury it.
• 2:24
  Speaker 2: To bury it.
• 2:24
  Speaker 3: That oil rig is done.
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: Sorry for that, ladies and gents. We were talking about... So,
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: they blew up the well to bury the fire to
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: put it out. And they're just going to build, like,
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: another oil derrick on the same land because there's oil everywhere. So... Daniel,
• 2:41
  Speaker 2: so this is like, I defend Daniel's parenting. He clearly
• 2:44
  Speaker 2: does love H.W. He's spooning H.W.
• 2:47
  Speaker 3: In bed. To the degree that he's capable, H.W. is
• 2:52
  Speaker 3: the most important person to him.
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: But you don't, like, if you're Daniel, you don't spoon
• 2:57
  Speaker 2: a human in bed. Unless you absolutely love them.
• 2:59
  Speaker 3: I think it's a natural instinct to, like, you see
• 3:03
  Speaker 3: an injured child... like that has nobody, you know, like
• 3:08
  Speaker 3: it's a very innate, I'm sure it was outside of
• 3:10
  Speaker 3: his control almost, you know, like I, you know, it
• 3:13
  Speaker 3: just felt like a, this is what I have to
• 3:15
  Speaker 3: do right now.
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: I have no, do you wonder like later they talk
• 3:18
  Speaker 1: about how like taking on HW was a marketing scheme,
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: if you will.
• 3:24
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: The work to keep that marketing scheme.
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: Alive.
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: Is so much.
• 3:30
  Speaker 3: It had its own reward.
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 3:32
  Speaker 2: Well, so I don't believe that it was fully only
• 3:35
  Speaker 2: for marketing purposes.
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: I agree completely.
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: But even if it truly was, It's so much time.
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: You can't raise a child, unless you're a true serial killer,
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: you can't raise a child and have no love for them.
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: I think, like, that's the whole thing. I wonder if, like,
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: if he thought, like, originally, like, Oh, if I have
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: a baby, people, like, I will be in it.
• 3:54
  Speaker 3: I think it's okay to be, like, to have, like,
• 3:56
  Speaker 3: mixed feelings. It doesn't have to be, like, all the way... Correct.
• 3:59
  Speaker 3: This kid's, for business purposes, all the way, I'm going
• 4:01
  Speaker 3: to take care of this kid because I'm a good person. It's, like,
• 4:04
  Speaker 3: those things kind of, like, crisscrossed a little bit. And
• 4:07
  Speaker 3: now this kid's horribly injured because of the situation he
• 4:11
  Speaker 3: was put in by me. Yeah, exactly. Like, what's the
• 4:14
  Speaker 3: least I should be doing here?
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: But I feel like what Tim is saying is a
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: good point where, like, you... that shit will seep into you.
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: Like you can't like, you can't nurture this kid and not,
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: it will just kind of force you to love it
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: because this thing needs you.
• 4:28
  Speaker 2: And I think like on a sliding scale and it
• 4:30
  Speaker 2: could be a different numbers on different days, but if
• 4:33
  Speaker 2: one is HW is only for business purposes and 10
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: is HW is only here because I love him as
• 4:39
  Speaker 2: my true son. I think honestly that he was like
• 4:44
  Speaker 2: an eight.
• 4:47
  Speaker 3: I really do as a parent.
• 4:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 4:50
  Speaker 3: Um, again, as an, as a guy who's digging oil
• 4:53
  Speaker 3: rigs that like, you know, is taking care of a
• 4:56
  Speaker 3: child that's not even his, like he's, he's, he's, I would,
• 5:01
  Speaker 3: I couldn't argue with like being, you know, above a six.
• 5:04
  Speaker 2: And I'm also, I'm not trying to demean orphans or
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: adopted children, but I don't think like a lot of
• 5:11
  Speaker 2: things come natural when it's your biological child.
• 5:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: And the fact that he's doing this for a non-biological child,
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: I think he does care.
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: But also like, We'll get to it later, but I
• 5:22
  Speaker 1: feel like that gives him a permission slip to discard
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: him later.
• 5:28
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: Well, you never belong to me, so.
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I think we'll get there.
• 5:33
  Speaker 3: It's convenient.
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: Actually, sorry, go ahead.
• 5:37
  Speaker 2: Well, H.W. is laying in bed and just going... Because
• 5:40
  Speaker 2: I've never lost my hearing, but he's just going.
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: He's making noises to try to see if he can
• 5:46
  Speaker 2: hear himself.
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: This is fucking soul-crushing.
• 5:48
  Speaker 2: And Daniel's saying, like, be quiet, H.W.
• 5:50
  Speaker 3: It is the worst case scenario to some extent. I mean,
• 5:54
  Speaker 3: it's just about the worst case scenario as a parent.
• 5:56
  Speaker 3: It's awful to watch this.
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: It's so bad. He has a doctor come and check him,
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: and H.W. is so confused. He can't hear. He hasn't
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: communicated with anybody in days. And Daniel asks to get
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: a teacher for H.W. Now, we're talking about a deaf
• 6:10
  Speaker 2: human in 1911?
• 6:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: So imagine, so Daniel eventually has, like, unlimited resources.
• 6:18
  Speaker 3: At this point, has unlimited resources. Really?
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. But even later, he gets even more
• 6:22
  Speaker 2: unlimited resources. But even now, like, H.W. is in the
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: best position to be deaf.
• 6:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, globally. Yes, globally. Yes, he is the luckiest newly
• 6:33
  Speaker 3: deaf child on the globe.
• 6:35
  Speaker 2: So, like, in rural China in 1911, if you're deaf,
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: do they just, like, leave you in the woods?
• 6:40
  Speaker 3: If you're lucky. If you're lucky.
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: Right, right. So, Eli comes down at this point. Bad timing.
• 6:51
  Speaker 2: Daniel's working. Eli comes down and says, When do we
• 6:54
  Speaker 2: get our money, Daniel? You owe me $ 5, 000. And I'm
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: totally on Daniel's side in this scene.
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: I wrote my note for this. Do you think Daniel
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: is really this mad at Eli? Is this an act?
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's an act, but I don't think
• 7:10
  Speaker 2: he's this mad at Eli.
• 7:10
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 7:11
  Speaker 2: I think that he's so mad that H.W. is deaf
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: because he's a parent, and that's terrible as a parent,
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: and he doesn't know what to do, and he's really angry.
• 7:20
  Speaker 2: And then Eli, who makes a mockery of human injury
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: by doing faith healing, comes down and says, you need
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: to give me money. This is obviously not the same context,
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: but it's like when Maury is like, Jimmy, where's my money?
• 7:32
  Speaker 2: Where's my money, Jimmy? And it's just like, Maury, this
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: is not a good decision right now.
• 7:36
  Speaker 3: No, and I think.
• 7:39
  Speaker 3: Worst thing I've ever said I think Daniel Plainview at
• 7:42
  Speaker 3: that point had probably already processed in his mind like
• 7:45
  Speaker 3: next time I see this fucking prick you know what
• 7:48
  Speaker 3: I mean he better not be coming in a confrontational
• 7:55
  Speaker 3: mood with me or I thought I guess it's the
• 7:59
  Speaker 3: same thing where it's like the timing the timing just
• 8:02
  Speaker 3: was not good this just happened to my son and
• 8:05
  Speaker 3: you're marching down here to confront me about something when
• 8:09
  Speaker 3: yours your end of the bar it's like okay this
• 8:11
  Speaker 3: is a perfect example of there is no god that
• 8:13
  Speaker 3: this happened to this perfectly innocent boy i.
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: Wonder though i'm curious because like what is he after
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: that guy dies eli is like well this is an
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: unblessed wealth not a shock that someone died right correct
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: then this happens.
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: Which is infuriating infuriating but eli comes down there and
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: i wonder this man died because i didn't allow eli
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: to bless a well fuck that so.
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: Then when he walks down here you can just like
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: you can you can like again this movie's so good
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: when Eli's just walking and they always show you in
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: a wide shot you can just feel Daniel staring him
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: down you just you know where this is gonna go
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: but I'm just so fascinated cause the idea of like
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: is now Daniel kind of buying into this in a
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: weird way where like like oh he didn't bless.
• 9:01
  Speaker 3: This all of this bad shit is happening god.
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: No I'm not saying he believes it, but like, oh, fuck,
• 9:09
  Speaker 1: because this didn't happen, this shit is happening.
• 9:11
  Speaker 3: Well, it's the whole karma thing. It's like, did I
• 9:14
  Speaker 3: screw myself here? It's like, no, I know I didn't.
• 9:17
  Speaker 3: You know, I know this is just, again, an act
• 9:18
  Speaker 3: of God type situation.
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: It's exactly what Kevin said in the last episode. It's like, okay,
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: you're a shaman in a village from a thousand years ago,
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: and it rains. Okay, it rains because I'm the shaman.
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: It doesn't rain.
• 9:33
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: It didn't rain because you guys failed.
• 9:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: So, um, he, he says, Eli says, you owe the
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: church of revelation $ 5, 000, which again is like $ 150, 000. Wait
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: a sec.
• 9:45
  Speaker 3: Which is again, true.
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: He made the deal.
• 9:47
  Speaker 3: Yes. He welches on that deal. He said he was
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: going to give him $ 5, 000 a year or two ago.
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: And that money is not, nothing's happened.
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: And really angry Daniel. when he completely freaks out, I love,
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: he goes, ooh! And then he grabs Eli, he starts
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: slapping him, and he drags Eli by the hair, he
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: throws him in a mud pit, he sits, much like
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: Dark Knight Returns, he sits on him, he's slapping him.
• 10:13
  Speaker 3: This was really his first physical acting that he did.
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 10:16
  Speaker 3: Right? In terms of like, you know, being like in
• 10:19
  Speaker 3: your face as like it was the first time he
• 10:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know he he was out of character for himself.
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: Random if you like if you ever wanted to deep
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: dive Daniel Day-Lewis I'm not saying you have to watch
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: this but there's a movie that takes place in Belfast
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: called The Boxer and Daniel Day-Lewis plays a professional boxer
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: living in Belfast and it's pretty good um but when
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: you're talking about him being physical anyways so uh he
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: just totally degrades him embarrasses him mocks him in front
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: of everyone, in the mud, sitting on him.
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: He big brothers him. He's mushing his face in the mud,
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: you know, and kind of just, like, messing up his
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: hair and just making him, like, showing him, like, you know,
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: you're nothing.
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: And this is a time when you didn't talk about feelings,
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: you didn't confront one another. It cuts to Eli's Sunday family, like,
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: that's his last name, eating dinner. And they're all just
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: eating dinner silently, and Eli's Covered in mud.
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: I love his dried dirt. And he's just sitting there.
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I remember when this,
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: when this scene started, I just realized again, Eli must
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: have been a nightmare son to deal with. Oh, yeah.
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: He says to his father, you were a stupid man, Abel.
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: In front of his sisters and mom.
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, you let this man swindle us. He didn't
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: pay us the money. And he gets so angry, he
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: ends up attacking his father. And he says.
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: He was a weak old man.
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: Yes. And he said, and Eli is saying to the father...
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: Paul told him, Paul told Daniel about this, meaning his
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: twin brother, which is correct. Um, big transition at this point,
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: a man named Henry comes to visit Daniel and Ryan,
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: what does, what does Henry say?
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: Henry tells him that he's learned of his success and
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: that he is his brother. Um, And he explains a
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: little bit of their heritage, like their mom.
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: Why do they keep talking about Fond du Lac? And
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: Daniel introduces him. This is Henry from Fond du Lac.
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: Weird.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: You should say, like, this is my brother.
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: Because, again, I guess rightfully so. From the beginning, he
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't trust it. And then as we go through, it
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: gets a little bit trusting, but not. But this is
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: played by Kevin J. O'Connor. People know from The Mummy.
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: Probably the most famously known role of him.
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: What else was he in?
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: He's been in a ton of stuff.
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: Is he a tombstone?
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think so.
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: Is he not?
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: Was he like a weakling in one of those western movies? Yeah,
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: I forget whether it was.
• 12:57
  Speaker 4: But he's... It's again like... Paul Thomas Anderson is so
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: good at being like... Finding people that you have seen
• 13:06
  Speaker 4: before but not this way.
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: And he did such a.
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: He was the second lead in the movie.
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: He was so good in this.
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, he was scary good. Actually, the oldest trick in
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: the book, I'm sure, is when you're going to meet
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: somebody who you're going to tell them you're related to,
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: is you try to model the way you look as
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: the way you think they look.
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: That shot of the two of them staring at me,
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: both with.
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: The same mustache. Yeah, the same mustache. Well, it's like, again,
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: it's like, because you would look at somebody and say, oh,
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: without the mustache, Skylook's nothing like me. With the mustache, oh,
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: my goodness, I actually see it.
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: I was going to say that I thought I was wrong,
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: but I was right. I should have said it. He
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: plays Igor in Van Helsing.
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: What else you got?
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: He was in G.I.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: Joe. A lot of Stephen Sommers work.
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: Deep Rising.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: Love Deep Rising. Did you ever see Deep Rising?
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: I just watched it this summer. No pun intended.
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: Treat Williams, Famke Jensen, Anthony Heald.
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: Let's cancel this one and just do Deep Rising.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: It's a fun movie.
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: Done.
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: Let's see what else he's been in. The Master, okay.
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: Television, but anyways.
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, Law and Order, yes. He's in.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: 71.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: 71, New York.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: So Henry is... He says, do you have an ID?
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: Henry shows him a letter from... Do I have this letter?
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: Daniel's family.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: This is the most interesting thing that's happened to Daniel
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: in 20 years.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: Daniel just does not know what to do with HW
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: at this point so he pours him a glass of
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: milk and puts a lot.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: When they're pouring this I'm just like I'm like Daniel
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: is just like trying to isolate like just isolate him
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: and just put him away yeah I'm shelving you.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you hey it works for me getting
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: drunk so he's like I'm gonna force you to drink
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: a pint of milk that's like half a pint of whiskey.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: I don't have the the wherewithal the know-how to deal
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: with this I have the emotional depth to do this.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: And also like That's kind of fair. Me as a
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: father in this scenario in 1911 would not be helpful.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: I would not know what to do.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine what they do.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: So then he goes back to talking to Henry. Henry,
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: what do you want? And then Henry says, nothing. Well,
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: I want to work. And he's like, just speak straight
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: to me. I don't want you to say I want nothing.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: And then say you want to work. Those are two
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: different things. And they're drinking whiskey. And he starts asking Daniel, like,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: so what happened with your life? And Daniel says, I
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: don't like to explain myself, which I wish I could
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: just say that.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: Sure. No, but I mean, you know what? You don't
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: want to have that conversation. This guy just showed up. Like,
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: you know, I have to tell you everything about how
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: I got here, and you're just showing him my doorstep? Like,
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: that's reasonable.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: He says, I have a competition in me, Henry. I
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: want no one else to succeed. I hate most people.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: There are times I look and people... There are times
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: I look at people and see nothing worth liking. I
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: want to earn enough money to get away from people.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: That is the most relatable statement in the history of film.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Plus, also, here's the funniest part. This guy doesn't trust,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: confides his entire soul.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: That's what's so crazy. That's what I mean when I
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: said this is the most interesting thing to happen to
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Daniel in 20 years. is someone showing up that's telling
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: you that I'm your relative.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: This is the most interesting.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: He tells you exactly what he feels.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Because he doesn't know Henry, but Henry's the only person
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: that it would even make sense to confide in.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Right. There's nobody else. This guy moved himself from complete
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: didn't even know you existed to you're the most important
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: person in my entire world right now, which comes up
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: later on too.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Henry says, what's your plan with the boy? And he says,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know. And then Henry says, where is the
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: boy's mother? And he says, I don't want to talk
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: about these things.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: I love.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Can I give you this line? This is just... I
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: think it's an educational issue at the time. Maybe he
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: can change. Does your... Does your sound come back to you?
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: He goes, nobody knows. Doctors don't even know. And I thought, Trump.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: That's a total Trump line. Nobody knows.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: At that point, did people know?
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Yes. The doctor that came out.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't know you were done.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: The doctor that came out to visit that looked in
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: his ears was like.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: He's fucked. This is over.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: So he... Triple... The DDL... Definite Trump supporter. Of course.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Henry Plainview? Oh, sorry. Henry Plainview. Daniel Plainview? Oh, absolutely
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Trump supporter. Are you kidding me? And he says, I
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: see the worst in people, Henry. Seeing you here gives
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: me a breath of life.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Uh-oh.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Uh-oh. Right. We're immediately besties with this stranger that showed
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: up with a picture.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: This is also a big trailer scene, too.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: This scene.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: And then H.W.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: The thing is, just this whole movie, you go like, this...
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: This is not going to work out, but it's probably
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: really not going to work out.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: You're watching the train wreck happen.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of movies like that.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: This can't just go, like, not so great. This can
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: only go horribly.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: This is only going horribly.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Where does it go, is the question.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: You're like, is H.W. going to die? Like, what is happening?
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: And he says, oh, sorry. So at this point, Henry
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: and Daniel are sleeping in the same room. So obviously,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: even at this point, Henry trusts him. Because Kieran Hines.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: You mean Daniel trusts Henry.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah. Daniel trusts Henry. Because Kieran Hines is a
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: really important right-hand man and he trusts him. But it's
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: not really appropriate to talk to your business right-hand man
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: about your deepest thoughts. And he has no one to
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: confide in. He has no friends. So seeing the opportunity
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: of maybe having a brother... He thinks, oh, this could
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: be really nice.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: This is the historical context of DDL's life that's been missing.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: There's nobody there that has had shared experiences with him
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: for the first 25 years of his life, except now
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: this guy's here. And it's like, all right, hey, we
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: share some of the same DNA, whatever. Who knows? I
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: forget which side they were on, father, mother. But this
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: is someone who I've got a deeper relationship with, bond with,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: or whatever, than.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: The fact that there's such a big... The second time,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I thought, is H.W. also being like, fucking don't trust
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: this thing.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: I give it 100% credit. I mean, H.W. didn't make
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: any wrong moves in.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: The whole movie.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: That's a very good point.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: He really didn't.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: No. And it's like, that is like, he sniffed this
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: guy out before Daniel did.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Now, I'm going to defend Daniel again. So the next scene,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Daniel and H.W. are on the train.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: H.W.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Has no idea why, because he can't communicate. And Daniel
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: is just motioning, like, sit here. I am talking to
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: the conductor. Sit here. I will be right back.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: This is the day, H.W. lit a fire the next
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: day they're on a train.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Father and son train ride. To We Don't Know Where,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Sunday Best.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you've done those.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Train Ride to Don't Know Where. They're like, wait a minute,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: is he abandoning me? And in the middle, they start
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: to take off and Daniel just runs off the train.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: And then his goons, including Kieran Hines, stay on the
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: train and H.W. realizes, oh, he's abandoning me.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Abandoning is the wrong word. I agree.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: No, so I agree that What does Daniel do? Daniel
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: uses his money to send H.W.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: To a deaf school in San Francisco in 1911. The
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: best goddamn school money can buy.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: In 1911 for deaf children?
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: 100%.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: As opposed to what? As opposed to what? He stays
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: in the oil camp and never does anything?
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: No, this was super, the best case scenario.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: This is why it's tough for Daniel, which is why
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: he lies and abandons him on the train. It's so
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: hard for Daniel to do it, but it's the right thing.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Call there was no way to communicate hey listen tough
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: thing about the deafness but we're gonna send you to
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: san francisco you're gonna be fine when you wrap that
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: up in five years you'll come right back.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Here but it's fascinating because like he leaves him with
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: like the best guy he knows here yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: For sure but also you're like because you wouldn't leave
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: it to anybody else.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: He just wants his dad that's the hard part right
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: he he doesn't go sadly i'm not your dad and
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: that's not an option but also that he doesn't know
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: that but the idea is like when they're trained together, H.W.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: is so happy because I think he's like, oh, we're
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: leaving this terrible place that.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Hurt us all. H.W., that was a misread.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Now, don't get me wrong, like, I'm not running a
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: multi-million dollar business, but if it were me and it
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: was CeCe, I would be on the train with CeCe
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: to San Francisco. You would be on the train with
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Emily or Juliet.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Sure. Sure, Meg would definitely be on the train.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: But, okay, if Meg wasn't, you would.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: If Meg was dead.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: But, um, This is a tough scene to watch. It
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: really is tough.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: And she was murdered by Francis Dollar Hyde and put
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: mirrors in her eyes.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Well, let's do it.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: That's a weird reach.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Hey, you landed in Maryland. Sorry.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: So he goes to the next meeting and he says,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: this is my brother, Henry Plainview from Fond du Lac.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: I was like, weird.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: So Henry's now the new HW. And they offer Daniel $ 150, 000
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: for land. Coyote Hills. So $ 150, 000 in today's money is
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: $ 5 million.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Okay. And just to explain this transaction. Good. So who
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: was he meeting with at this point? It wasn't Standard Oil.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I thought it was Standard Oil.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay. No, he made the deal with Standard Oil. Yeah,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: that's what he made the deal with.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Was it Union or something?
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this was Union or whatever. This was the group
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: he didn't like. Yes. They requested a meeting with him.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: He goes and sits down.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Because he kept throwing HW in his face.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he goes and sits down with them, and they go, listen,
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: we want to talk business. He's like, They start asking
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: about HW. He's like, okay, moving right along. What did
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: you want to talk about? They're like, well, the first
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: thing is we want to buy Coyote Hills. He's like,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: what's the price on that? They go $ 150, 000. He goes, okay,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: that's sold. Done deal.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Deal.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: What's the next thing you wanted to talk about? Which
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: if you're the viewer, you go, okay, Coyote Hills is
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: a complete dry piece of shit. Yes. Ghost land desert
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: right now that I just sold for $ 6 million.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: So you know he knows more than them.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, hell yeah. Well, he tells them in that meeting,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: go scratching around in the dirt like the rest of us.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: You know, do it at Coyote Hills, actually. It's a
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: great place to start. I actually drained the swamp there,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: and best of luck to you, yeah. Great transaction. One
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: of the best. One of the best.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: And they go, well, no, go ahead, Brian.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: When they're like, well, I mean, you have a proven
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: well in this area. And he's like, no, I have
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: three proven wells. And he just goes.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Three. Three. That's a big... difference order of magnitude wise.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Like that's, yeah, look right.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: And look, yeah, he's, they go, listen, Daniel, why don't
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: you just, why keep fighting and doing all this? Just
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: take the money, take care of your boy. You know,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: like all you should care about is your boy right now.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I know he's in trouble. You should take care of
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: your boy. And, uh, this is my biggest takeaway from
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: seeing it in the theater. He gets up and he says,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: one night I will come into your house while you
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: were sleeping and I will.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Cut your throat.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: And they're like, What?
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: What?
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Whoa.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Also, love when you watch this now, the visuals, including Henry.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Daniel's wearing the brown worn suit, the brown hat. He
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: looks like he has 50,000 miles of bad road in
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: his face, soon to be 400 miles. You see these guys.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: And his hat is soaked in sweat.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: It's so browned and just dirty. Then you see these
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: guys are all in black suits, white shirts, very clean. Again,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Henry is kind of between. And the visuals are all
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: just telling you, I've earned this spot, you three have
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: done nothing.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Correct. That's a really good point. That's the whole point.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: That's a really good point. These guys are businessmen.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: They haven't been inside an oil pit.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Where Daniel is like, he is in the trenches.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I've done both.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: He left the trench to attend this meeting to sell
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: you this dry swamp, you know, this dry... Oh, no.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: All right, we had some technical difficulties, but we're back
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: with a vengeance. So where we left off is he
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: goes and talks to Al and says, why don't I
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: own this? Al says, this is the Bandy's tract. I
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: told you to buy this. He wanted to come talk
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: to you. You said no. Can you build the pipeline
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: around it? And he says, can I build around 50
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: miles of Apache Mountains, Al? Don't be thick with me, Al.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: And he goes to talk to Bandy. Bandy's not there.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: His hot grandson is there.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Wait, but in the real estate agent scene, he was
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: none too pleased with his real estate agent at that point. Al. Yeah.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Don't be thick with me, Al. But Al definitely did
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: nothing wrong and told him to talk to Bandy.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: For years.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Yes, but also as your counselor and trusted advisor, did
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: you tell me twice or just the one time when
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I was doing a bunch of other shit?
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Fair.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: You couldn't have circled back on this? If this leads
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: to the goddamn ocean.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: But also, like, Daniel is doing well. It's probably like
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: he doesn't give a shit about this. That was my theory.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: But that's it. Now you've got people working for you
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: that are less efficient than you are.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: But also, like, Daniel's only acknowledging this area and now
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: there's a threat to it. That's why.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Daniel then goes to the ocean with Henry. They're swimming,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: which seems so strange. Just like happiness, ocean. They get
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: out and they're sitting on the beach. Henry's chillin'. Daniel
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: seems really happy and they're talking about Henry's like, why
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: don't we get some liquor and women?
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: And he's in, Daniel's getting nostalgic. Henry is shutting down
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: the nostalgia and talking about liquor and women. Daniel brings
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: it back to the nostalgia of the youth that they
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: shared together. Air quotes. And, uh, And he's not getting
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: any bites on his chum that he's throwing.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Daniel saying air quotes would be great. I would love that.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: And then they kiss.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: No. You know I'd love a smooch between.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: You and I. Yeah, a brother smooch. And then Daniel
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: drops what he considers to be the nuclear bomb of
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: things that we should both have a shared memory of
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: that unequivocally connects us to the level at which I'm
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: rating this relationship right now is we can get some
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: women get them liquored up and take them to the
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Petrie dance and his brother the Petrie dance the Petrie
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: dance his air quotes brother has no god damn idea
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: what he's talking about and doesn't even give him yeah
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: he doesn't even give him a head nod on this
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: idea and then they go out Henry is beyond annihilated
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Daniel Day-Lewis realizes this guy's a fake. It's likely that
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: this guy's going to have to be dealt with.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: And Henry comes up to Daniel and is like, Daniel,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: can I have some money? Can I have some money?
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: And what we talked about in the part of this
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: podcast that just got deleted, I was like, well, even
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: though cocaine and hookers is not a plan, at least
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: it's better than nothing. Daniel just wants to get money
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: to do nothing.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Just to have it.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Henry was definitely on the fun committee.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: So Daniel is furious when Henry asks for money. And
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: they're going camping on the bandit track. Henry wakes up
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: and Daniel has a very small caliber gun pointed at him.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: And he says, what is the name of the farm
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: next to the hill house? And Henry says, I'll just leave.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: I just want to confirm our shared dynamic.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: What is the name of the farm next to the
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: hill house?
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: And he goes.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: I'll just leave, Daniel, which is obviously a red flag.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: I'll just leave, I'm sorry. And he confesses basically like,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I met a guy, he said he was your brother,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: he died of tuberculosis, he gave me his diary, I
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: memorized it, and I pretended I was your brother. But
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: he's like, I'm your friend, and I really like being here,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: but if you want me to leave, I will go.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: And before he's really even finished... Daniel is so angry,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: he just shoots him in the head.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I think again, that guy, I think
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: he misread the situation.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Henry did.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Henry did. Yeah, exactly. Um, like, The I'm your friend thing,
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: it's like, I don't think Daniel Day-Lewis wasn't looking for
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: a friend at that point. I think he kind of was. No,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: but you came into this as we have a shared
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: bloodline history.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: He wasn't actually looking for a friend. He was happy
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: to have one.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, sure. But it's also, this guy also was
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: bloodline at that point. He inserted himself as, you're my
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: blood brother or whatever. And then fast forward to a
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: month later, I realize you're a phony. And you tailored
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: yourself to the image of a guy that you met
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: on the train just to, you know, endear yourself to
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: some rich whatever, you know, oil man or whatever.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: And also you're positing as like, well, you should be
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: happy to have me because I'm at least someone. And
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: that's even more insulting.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Now, since you deleted over the entire Midsommar reference, I
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: feel like we can't go back to that, even though
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: I'm sure that's what everybody wants to hear.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, like when keeping it real goes wrong. Cause
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: you brought up how the British couple, when the elderly
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: couple jumps off and commits suicide, the British couple is like,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: it's wrong that your society does this. You're wrong.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: I texted you about that right away. And I was like, man,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: I was like these two people, if you're in that
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: cult mindset, if someone's asking about the Petri dance or
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: the jump off the cliff ritual at 72, you go,
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Oh my God, that, God, I love this. This is
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: so great. The Petri dance was a blast.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they completed their cycle.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Wu-Tang was performing there the year that
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: I saw it. And then as far as the jumping
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: off the cliff thing, you go, wow, I'm 22, so yeah,
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: in 50 years, I'm right off that cliff. I'm doing
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: a cartwheel off that thing, you know?
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: And then you wait until Daniel goes to sleep and
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: you fucking leave. Yeah, yeah.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: You tell him, yeah, Petri dance was dope. We had
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: a blast at that. I probably need to I probably
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: need to remove myself from the situation.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: In a very graphic, small-caliber bullet brain death, he's like...
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: So slow. He doesn't just get his brain blown out
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: and die like in every other movie. It's just like a.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: 22 or like a Derringer, and it gets lodged in
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: his brain. He's just kind of jerking, going like....
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: That was the kind of gun that will get the
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: job done if you have to do something in a pinch. Yes.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Not exactly a Clint Eastwood-type gun. Not a mercy kill.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: It makes very little sound.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: Not a lot of power. Yeah, that was the most difficult,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: low-caliber gun death of all time.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: And Daniel wakes up. So he actually gets the diary
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: written by his actual brother, reads it drinking, and sobs.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Then he is woken up very hungover. Like, more hungover
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: than we've ever been.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Was he hungover there or just drunk?
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: He looks like shit.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: He looks terrible.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: This counts as being woken up on the ground.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: And it's Bandy. And he tries to give the whole, hey,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I'm going to hunt quail here. And Bandy is like, no,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I know everything. You want to build a pipeline through
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: my land? I want you to go to church. Daniel says,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: I'll give you.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: $ 2, 500.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: And he goes, nope, I want you to go to church.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: And Daniel says, I'll give you $ 5, 000, which is $ 170, 000.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: In today's dollars. In today's dollars. And Bandy says, no,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: I want you to go to church. And Ryan made
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: this point earlier. Bandy's a true believer and Eli is not.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Bandy is not just saying things. And he goes, well,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: what do you want me to confess to church? That
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I'm an oil man? And then Bandy pulls out the
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Derringer gun to be like, no, I know you killed
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: your brother. So we were saying, well, why doesn't Bandy
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: just call the police, turn him in? Probably Daniel would
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: beat the rap because it's 1911 and he's very, very wealthy. So,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: you know, there's no forensic evidence. Like it's very poor
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: back at that time. Okay, so it's better for him
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: to just go to church. So Daniel knows, okay, I'm fucked.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: He has me for the murder.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Of my brother.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I have to go to church. And he's brought into church.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Eli sees him. Eli loves this.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: And Eli says, is there a sinner here looking for salvation?
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: And Daniel says, nothing. I love that. I will ask again.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Is there a sinner here looking for salvation? And Daniel's like,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: me neither. And this is the big scene that everybody
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: credits as like, this is the best acting scene in
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: the movie.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: It's the cover of the poster, the soundtrack, everything in
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: this scene.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: So talk about this scene, Ryan.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: So Daniel's brought up on the altar and Eli is.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Eli, of course, knows a lot about Daniel outside of
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: what the people in this church know. And he's like,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: have you sinned? Have you done whatever? And he's just
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: going through all of the quote-unquote crimes of Daniel. It's like,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: you abandoned your son, and he's slapping Daniel. He's like,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I abandoned my son! And doing all of these, like,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: incriminating Daniel. I abandoned my boy. And what's amazing about
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: it is that you're watching Eli put on a performance
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: in front of these people. And you're watching Daniel do
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: the same thing. He's like, I have to go through
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: this part.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: I have to do it.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: To get people to buy into me. But then, again,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: what's I agree in a weird way why people put
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: this as the best actor montage is that when he's saying,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: for one of the times he says, I abandoned my boy,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: you can tell like, oh, he did. He felt that way.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: One of them.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he realized it. I did do this.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Eli, so my favorite moment in this whole scene is
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Eli says, say I've abandoned my child. And he says,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I've abandoned my child. And you can tell he doesn't
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: really believe it. And Eli says, say it again. I've
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: abandoned my child. And then Daniel looks at him and
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: the look is like if laser beams could shoot out
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: of Daniel's eyes and explode Eli yes it is remarkable.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: So but also like Kevin just said like Eli's just
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: abandoned my child he's just abandoned my boy that time
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: so he's like he's personally picking it and he's like
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I need to get out of here while it's happening
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I need to get this.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Done let's wrap this up yeah let's wrap this up
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Eli's slapping him Oh my goodness. And hitting him hard too.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Eli's returned the favor from the last humiliation for Eli.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: And again you realize again like this is about they
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: both don't care about the bigger meaning of what they sell.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: It's about them. Them. And then I'm fascinated by this
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: and wonder what you guys think. This whole thing happens.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: They all clap. They all stand up. Daniel walks over
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: and then William Bandy is already up on the altar,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: and he shakes Daniel's hand. They do whatever. And then
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Daniel walks over to Eli and says something to him.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: You never hear what he says. You see his mouth move.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: And Eli's face just sinks. And I always thought Daniel
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: was like, I will.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Murder you tomorrow. Yeah, that was a wild bunch of
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: bullshit you just spewed there. I got the bandit track.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like you're full of shit, you're done. And like,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: it's just because the way Eli's face.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Reacts is so fascinating. But now, I look at that
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: event as like a humiliation ritual.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Truth.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Like, how much money does Daniel Plainview have at that
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: point where he's still willing to go through a humiliation ritual?
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Well, he needs to build a pipeline. Because building the
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: pipeline is like, you go from a multi-millionaire to a multi-billionaire.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: And again, what difference would that have made in his life?
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: To you and me, nothing.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I know, I know.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: For him, look what happens.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: To nothing, nothing.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: We jump 10 years. It's forever. We're now in a mansion.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: There's no skyline or dirt in sight. He is now
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: in modern world times. He is nowhere near a ground site.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: That's true. Was that the next scene?
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. After this scene, H.W. comes back to
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: visit Daniel from his deaf school in San Francisco. He
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: has a translator... Daniel says, I love you, son, and
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: hugs him, and HW starts punching him in the face.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I wrote, I would love to go to a nice
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: 1910s steakhouse restaurant.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Like, this is my dream. Yeah, you love that.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, I would love this.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Also, I love... Like another L, boy!
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: When they do the HW scene when he comes back,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: it's far away.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: It's so interesting.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: And the restaurant is like, it's old, 19... Do.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: You picture yourself getting an appetizer and a salad or
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: just an entree? I get everything.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: He orders steaks and whiskey and then the guy who
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: he threatened to slit his throat earlier, his name is H.M. Tilford,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: he comes back into the restaurant and Daniel puts a
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: napkin over his face to talk shit about H.M. Tilford
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: out loud so H.M. Tilford will hear. And I think
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: he does that just because.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: H.W.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Is dead.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Reading lips.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: And he doesn't want him to know that he's aggressively
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: talking shit about this other guy.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Pretty weird to be like, you know what will tone
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: this scene down? I'll put a napkin over my head
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: and just start barking words out about it.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Julia did it once, remember?
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I also love when H.M. Tilford comes over to Daniel
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: and sees him. And to his credit, he has somewhat
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: of the balls to say hello to Daniel. And when
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: he sees HW, hi, how are you? There's no need
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: to shout.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: There's no need to shout.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, father of the year. Father of the year knows
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: how to communicate with this kid.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: H.M.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Telford is like very normal.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, he's very normal.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: He's like a normal businessman.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: He's doing the best he can, yeah.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: And Daniel is hammered at this lunch with his son
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: because he's probably full of shame. He doesn't know how
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: to handle it.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: It might have been a late lunch, too. What if
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: it was like a 2 p.m. lunch?
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: That's the reason your entire personality changed.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: He gets right in Tilford's face and he goes, he
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: was like, you thought I couldn't build a pipeline, but
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I did. You look like a fool, don't you, Tilford?
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: And obviously the irony is Daniel looks like a fool
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: because he's making a complete scene out of himself at lunch.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: And then Tilford just goes, yes, yes, I am right.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: You are right. I am a fool.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Like, you are right. Best thing you can say in
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: that situation is, yeah, you're absolutely right. 100%.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: When Tilford responds to you, Sam just goes, you do.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Psychotic response.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: And then he grabs, Tilford's drinking a whiskey, he grabs
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Tilford's whiskey.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, he crushes it.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Chugs it and puts it back. It's like, okay.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Like he's winning.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, oh yeah, like, yeah, you really won in
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: that scene. And then it shows Eli, he's so big
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: as a preacher, he has to leave the town and
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: go on a mission. And it shows him getting on
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: the train and Daniel's kind of like seeing this, like, whatever,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: fuck you, dude.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I love, This moment's so nice. You see a whole
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: montage of... They got a.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: A.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Sign language teacher?
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: A sign language person to help H.W. They're teaching him,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: but what's still awful to watch... Again, you've seen H.W.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: get some agency back in this whole movie. Sorry. And then...
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: After getting the sign language teacher, he's in the church
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: with Mary, and he's just doing... And I'm like, fucking
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: don't do this to me.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: He's trying to see if he can hear.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: He's so hoping it comes back.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: It's awful to watch. But I love how Mary's a
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: little girl who's dirt poor, you know, farmer's daughter, and
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: she is successfully learning sign language to communicate with H.W.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: She is trying. Daniel has made zero effort.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: What is this shit?
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. Like, in fairness, again, back then,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: not to defend Daniel, but... It's like teaching a 50-year-old
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: how to use, you know, how to write code. Like,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: it ain't happening.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, do you know that? I didn't even know this.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: I was in the Uber app, and I was trying
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: to find an invoice. And in the options, it said
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: simple mode. And I was like, what is simple mode?
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: And I clicked on it, and it said, this is
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: a mode for, and I don't know how the way
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: they phrased it, but it was like for basically boomers.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I'd be like, great.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: For those that are not familiar.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: You mean the dial's bigger?
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: But, like, again, Mary, she doesn't have shit to do, okay?
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: She's not running an oil empire. Oh, I'm sorry, you
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: have more time to do finger painting with H.W.? Finger painting?
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. After Daniel's greatest shame, which is when
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Eli humiliates him in the church, who is the person
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: who comes behind him and hugs him? Mary. She sits
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: back down and she comes behind him and hugs him.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Well, she was a nice person.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Hugs Daniel?
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: No. Remember that? Like, she comes by and hugs him,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: and you're like, wow.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: She always had the hots for him. That's true. Oh,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know about that.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: So the last shot of this is H.W. and Mary
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: go off playing, and now it is 1927.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Everything is great.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: H.W. is getting married to Mary, and Mary is pretty hot.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: She's hot. Her hair is a little short, but she's hot.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Her hair is a little short.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, she's got like ear-length hair at this point. Like,
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: was that... And.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: As Ryan said, this whole movie takes place in the dirt.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: This movie takes place in the dirt.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: It's so jarring.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Now he's in like a Connecticut green mansion surrounded by trees.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Fairly modern.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, huge mansion. And when they... So this is like
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: 16 years later. When they cut to Daniel, this may
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: be my favorite Daniel moment. What is he up to, Kevin?
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, he's having the time of his life. I disagree.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Actually pretty fair for him.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: I would say he's enjoying his golden years, which are
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: essentially his 50s.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: So he's in this spotless, beautiful mansion. I'll ask Ryan
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: to answer the question for real. What is he doing?
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: He's just shooting random shit in the hallway. The open firearms.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: My favorite part of this, I forgot this happened. Rewatching it,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, this movie is a masterpiece. is they
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: go to that scene of him shooting stuff, whatever, and
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: you're like, he's just shooting open fire into the house.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: In his house.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: They just cut to him signing checks, and I love
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: this so much. He's drinking a tea, and he has
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: a cigarette between his fingers that are holding the tea,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: and he's just like.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Well, can I tell you, the four things that he's
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: doing that you just mentioned right there are he has.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: The highest end advanced firearm shooting gallery in a mansion. One.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: It's not a shooting gallery. It's a hallway.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: It's a shooting gallery. It's his shooting gallery. It's a
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: makeshift shooting gallery. You might want your shooting gallery set
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: up differently than him. But if you were in his position,
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: this is perfect. It's accessible. You live upstairs. You come downstairs.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: You shoot. He's got that. He's got smoke in a butt.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: With breakfast, right? Great. Full cocktail. Yeah. Okay. Cutting a
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: check for whatever.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's into cocktails, is my opinion. I'm
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: not sure he's buying into that.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I think it's straight whiskey.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: I think it's straight pain.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: No ice. It's possible he was having it neat.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Imagine. H.W. comes to visit and says, can we speak?
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: He messaged. He does sign language to his interpreter, and
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: his interpreter says, can we speak in private?
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: This is so crazy.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: This was tough. I couldn't even watch this. On my
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: 15th rewatch today, I could not rewatch this six-minute scene.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Daniel says, you can't speak at all, so why don't
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: you flap your hands about and tell me where you've been.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: Not super kind.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: H.W. with sign language says, I love you very much.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Tim, that one moment.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: I love you very much.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know why he's not in more movies. The
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: guy who played adult H.W., He just did that.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Is he actually deaf in real life?
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure. Yes, 100%.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: The way he did that was just so... I'm trying
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: to come to my dad with a hard thing to
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: talk about. And he's like, I'm going to start with this.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: And then your dad's opening line is like, I'm going
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: to fucking insult you as hard as I could.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: You can't speak.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: From your handicap, because you were in an explosion because
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: of my company.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: It's my fault. You can't speak. But he's just like, okay,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: but he opens with, and the way he does it
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: is so, it's just so wonderful. He's like, I love
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: you so much.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: I love you very much.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Because you gave me this life.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: I am taking Mary in Mexico and working outside in
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: the fields to do my own drilling and start my
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: own company. I need to make a change. Daniel says,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: this makes you my competitor. And he says, I would
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: rather keep you as my father than my partner.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: No deal.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And he's signing to his interpreter, and he goes,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: tell me yourself, not your lap dog. Daniel says, you
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: are killing my image of you as a son. What
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: the fuck does that mean? That's so awful. You are
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: killing my image of you as a son.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Well, you're in your latter years, and you have, like,
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: in Daniel Day-Lewis's mind, nothing... unfolded as he expected it
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: to yeah you know including this situation where i've got
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: a deaf orphan who can't talk to me telling me
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: he's leaving to go drill in mexico and i should
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: be happy for him like i'm.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Not he says you are not my son you are
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: an orphan i don't know you because you have none
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: of me this is very important you have none of
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: me in you like this anger of yours this maliciousness
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: and backwards dealing anger maliciousness and backwards dealing Sounds a
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: lot like Daniel.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Also, I love, like, the moments the scene chooses to
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: be sign language versus talking. Like, when HW, like, he's like,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: tell me, like, say it with your own words. Like,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: don't do whatever.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, yeah.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: The guy, again, this guy who did this, why didn't
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: he get more movies? When he, like, harrumphs where he's, like,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: taking a deep breath, you're like, I can't even fucking
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: watch this because he's like, this guy I know is
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: going to humiliate me for the way I talk. And
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: then when he says it, and he's like, oh, there
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: you go.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: And then, like, the fight, oh. He's like, use your
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: actual voice, because H.W. doesn't want to talk, because he's deaf,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: he can't really talk. So then when he says, like,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: he's talking as a deaf person would talk, he goes,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: there you go, is it so hard? He says, I
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: took you for no other reason than a sweet face
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: to buy land. And he says, you're a bastard from
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: a basket.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: H.W.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Says, thank God I have none of you in me.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: But I love also, H.W.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Signs it.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: He signs it. I love that. That's a great fuck
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: you moment.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: You're a bastard from a basket! Yes.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: H.W.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: 's leaving and he's yelling down the hallway, bastard from
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: a basket!
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: Daniel Day-Lewis has this thing where he needs to win
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: in every interaction.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: Right? You know what I mean? And like, this was him,
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: this might be the last time I see this, you know,
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: this kid, like, I need to make sure that he
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: leaves knowing that I won this conversation. And it's like,
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: oof that's a that's a.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Well sorry go ahead but did he like no i
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: think the son realizes like this is a husk of
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: a human it's even though this guy gave me my
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: this guy was a shepherd of my life and where
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: i am right now because he says he's like you
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: taught me like how to love doing this.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: We're doing this soulless job. You taught me how to
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: love the physical act of doing it. Not like you said,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: like the guys earlier who were trying to buy it,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: who have no idea what the actual work is. I mean,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: the people who do it, like he said, he did
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: it so wonderfully kind.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: And, oh, Daniel looks like absolute horseshit. Yes.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: So my note right here, it says, what do you
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: do when you win? So if you are only focused
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: on winning, And then you reach retirement age, or not
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: retirement age, in Daniel's case. You've won. You've achieved all
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: the success. It's like Michael Phelps has struggled with his
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: mental health. His entire life, he focused on swimming. He
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: was the best swimmer of all time. He kicked everyone's ass.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: He made everybody look like a moron. He won every
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: gold medal in multiple Olympics. And then he's like, okay,
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: now I have to just go live life? What the
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: fuck do I do?
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. A lot of movies and TV shows
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: never show you when someone who is, quote-unquote, evil or
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: whatever wins or gets what they want, there is no celebration.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: There is no... When they are in power, they actually
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: just rot. You just kind of run away. Because you
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: chase this thing so hard, there's nothing left of you.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, and he.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Robert Baratheon in Game of Thrones is a great example.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: The whole beginning of Game of Thrones is about.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: Was he the dragon lady?
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: No. Robert Baratheon was the king who overthrew... Anyways. His
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: wife was stolen from him and he started a rebellion
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: and he fought the Targaryens and defeated them and became king.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: And then when he became king, he was like, Alright, like, okay,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: so now I have to run the whole country?
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: What? Yeah. Was this the zombie show?
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: So, this is my favorite woken up on the ground scene.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Daniel is literally in the gutter.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the greatest.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Wait, this is the best waking up drunk scene, yeah.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the greatest... Movie hero of all time.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: The butler.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Unnamed butler.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: Wait a second. What is this person's scene? I always
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: think if you find yourself in this situation, things aren't
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: that bad.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: When you wake up in your mansion in the gutter
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: of a bowling alley, I think things have gone very wrong.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Because you've succeeded really greatly in certain ways and failed
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: terribly in other ways.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: Yes, but also if you thought back to the 18-year-old
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: version of himself, And I'm sure he probably thought, like, hey, listen,
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: 40 years from now, you're in a $ 200 million mansion
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: in South Jersey. You've got a bowling alley, a butler,
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: you've got a shooting gallery, you know, unlimited, you know, everything.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: And you wake up, you haven't had a couple drinks
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: too many, you wake up and you're bowling alley.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: He's such a bad alcoholic, he's dying and can barely walk.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: So he's literally face down in the gutter of his
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: bowling alley in his mansion. And his butler wakes him up.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: He says, you have a guest. And Daniel's just snoring.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: And Eli shows up. He is dressed very well. He's
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: in a suit. He has a cross necklace. And I love,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: Daniel's snoring. And Eli's like, Daniel, Daniel. And he's... And
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: he goes, it's Eli. And then Daniel goes... That's a
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: great scene. And Daniel wakes up. And Eli's like, I
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: got a drink for us. Do you want a drink? Daniel,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: who's drunk, 24-7, 365, refuses the drink from Eli. And
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: for the first time in the entire fucking movie, he
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: starts drinking water.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: You know what? That's actually a really great call. You're
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: put in that situation where you're woken up from a
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: complete drunken blackout slumber. by the person that you hate
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: the most in the entire world, and the guy's offering
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: you a drink, and you go, no, no, I'm actually
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: going to take it easy.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: He cannot be in control.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: I'm going to take it easy now. He cannot be
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: in control. Pass me the Pellegrino, if you don't mind.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Daniel starts chugging his last bottle of water, and I wrote, brother,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: I've been there. Eli says, Bandy's grandson will sell you
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: the oil in the field. They sold you the access
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: to the pipeline, but refused to sell you the oil.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: They'll sell you the oil now. And I want to
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: buy the, I want to sell this to you. And
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Daniel says, totally. I'm happy to do this. All you
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: have to do, and I will buy it, is you
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: have to tell me you're a false prophet and God
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: is a superstition.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: So great. So great to say, I accept all the
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: terms of your offer. There's just, I have one contingency.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: And after that, we're off and running. So petty.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Eli goes, I want $ 100, 000. No problem. Plus the $ 5, 000
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: that you owed me from before.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: Done.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: With, With interest.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: And Daniel goes, done. I will 100% do this. So
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Eli's like, okay. Well, if you're making me say this.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: Now, how soon can we start drilling? He goes, right away.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: Shouldn't take too long. Ready to go as soon as
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: we're just waiting on one contingency of you saying that
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: you're a false prophet and that God's a superstition.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: And he's like, all right, Daniel. I'm a false prophet.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: God's a superstition. Daniel goes, no, no, no. You have
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: to say it like it's your sermon. You have to
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: stand up and say it.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: And.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Can we give him this credit? He is so insulting
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: to Eli in this moment. So great. Imagine... This is
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: your church. Now, do it.
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: For the people in the back, he's also eating like
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: a piece of steak that was left there, like a
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: cold piece of steak. He's like nibbling through the fat
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: of the steak. And he's decided... He knows, what's so
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: great about this is he knows in this moment, this
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: guy didn't just appear here out of nowhere. He came
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: here specifically for something. Oh, he needs something. He's desperate.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: And when Paul Dano says to him like, oh, he
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: basically says like, you know, something about like misfortune or
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: something like that. And Daniel Day-Lewis is like, oh, have
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: things not turned out well for you? And it's like,
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: Daniel Day, I think you probably know that he's coming
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: to you from a position of need versus everything's great.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: It's the reverse of the scene we saw when he
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: was at Eli's church.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: Now you need something from me. And I've prayed to
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: God Almighty that you would walk in my door and
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: want to put on some bowling shoes.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: And after he's screaming over and over, God is a superstition,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: I am a false prophet, Daniel just says... Those wills
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: have been... Yeah, those areas have been drilled. It's called drainage.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Drainage!
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: And this is the I drink your milkshake speech where
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: he's talking about, if I own all the land around
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: that land, I will send pipes under the ground and
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: suck up that oil. I drink your milkshake. And he's like,
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: I come from all the way over here. And I
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: drink the blood of the lamb from Bendy's tract every day.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: And then Eli crumbles and he says, I need help.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: I'm a sinner. God has completely failed to alert me
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: about the recent panic in our economy.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: Great line. God damn it. Me too. Great line.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Eli says, the Lord sometimes challenges us. Daniel says, yes
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: he does. It was Paul who told me about you.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: I broke you and I beat you.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: This was the first time he realizes his brother, his
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: identical twin brother, did sell out the entire family.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: And he tells him I gave him $ 500 or $ 5, 000
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: or $ 500 cash in his hand and, you know, makes
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: a loud clap like that. Like, as soon as that
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: transaction was done, I'm paying this kid. And he has, again, this, the,
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: not a priest, but the holy man's brother has an oil. Yeah.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: producing $ 500 a week or something like that, or $ 5, 000
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: a week.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: And he starts whipping bowling balls at Eli.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: Pins, yeah. Oh, bowling balls.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Bowling balls. And Eli's jumping over them, and he's screaming
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: at him, and then he starts throwing bowling pins at him,
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: and Eli's like, Daniel, we're brothers. We're longtime friends. And
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: you were commenting earlier, like, no, they're not.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Misread.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Misread.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: Not at all. Misread. Like, we lived in the same neighborhood...
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: You know, or whatever.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Also, like, Eli also knows they're not friends.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: No, of course.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: But he thinks he can come and manipulate him, which
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: is a huge mistake.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: Why would you show up at his house?
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Insane. Insane.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Because you're desperate. Insane.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: You're desperate.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: He's the most money.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: I like the butler going, you have a visitor. You
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: have a visitor. Like, oh, thanks so much.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: And then Daniel's whipping bowling pins at him and trying
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: to hit him with a bowling pin. And it's kind
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: of in, you kind of think it's fine. It comical
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: funny yeah it's comical funny but then all of a
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: sudden when he actually hits him in the.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: Head he's on his hands and knees crawling away and
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: Daniel Day-Lewis is like well I missed you with the
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: first three throws of the hard mahogany pins now I'm
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: gonna come over and bash you over the head with
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: one to kind of close this game out.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: He hits him with one pin like once and you
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: know he's dead oh that's not good that was bad
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: and then to you know question all doubt Daniel stands
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: over him and crushes his skull in with the bowling pin.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: He didn't crush his skull. It was two more swings.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: The results footage is pretty tough.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: And then the caretaker butler comes down and says, like, Mr.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Plainview or whatever, Daniel, I don't remember what he calls him,
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: and he says.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: I'm finished. Last line of the movie.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: I'm finished. The end of There Will Be Blood.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: Uh, lessons learned. We gotta do lessons learned.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: So, lessons learned or advice?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: Um, I, what about, like, theme? Like, what do you
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: guys think the theme is of that movie? I'll go first. Okay. Okay. Greed. Yep.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: Greed over everything. Yep. Um, definitely, like, unfortunately, capitalism. Yep. Um, definitely, like,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: wariness of, you know, like, just being, keeping, being on
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: your toes at all times. Like you're, you're on, you're on,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: you know, troubled water, like be on your toes. Um,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: and then, yeah, I mean, I think over focusing on
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: one thing versus the big picture.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: Um, really like you kind of need to, I don't know,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: like it just doesn't seem like he ended up, he
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: had an opportunity to end up in a much better
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: place than he ended up and he ended up in,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know, what I would consider maybe like worst case,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: nearly worst case scenario. Yeah, unintentionally. You know, unintentional bad
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: decisions or whatever.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: I don't think that the movie portrays like capitalism is bad.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: I think that capitalism can go really bad. And I
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: think that Daniel has a lot of really good qualities.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: I think he's intelligent. I think he's hardworking. I think
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: he's obviously successful. And I think he does love certain
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: people in his life, but at the end of the day,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: he values the wrong things. You can be a capitalist
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: and make money and work hard and be smart, but
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: also value your family and value human relationships. And I
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: think that the lesson of this movie is Daniel only
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: focused on crushing everyone and success and money. And that's
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: the question I asked earlier. What do you do when
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: you win? If all you want to do is win...
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: And then you win, win, win, win, win, win, win.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: And you're at the top of the mountain and you're
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: looking down at all the people you defeated. And there's
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: no one else to conquer. What do you do? You
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: have nothing to do. You're just... You're miserable. Wouldn't you rather...
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Would you rather defeat everyone and sit at the top
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: of that mountain and then not know what to do?
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Or would you rather, like, love your son? I would
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: rather love my son.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: Ryan. Sorry. Do you need a tissue, bro? Sure.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: My advice would be drink other people's milkshakes because milkshakes
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: are delicious.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: The milkshake theme is kind of lost in this all.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: That's actually a great point, honestly.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Calise. I think Chick-fil-A milkshakes are really good, but go on.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: Wendy's, pretty solid. The Frosty. I would say what Daniel
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: doesn't do in this movie, since he is selective about this,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: is quote-unquote chosen family. Movies do this really well, I
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: feel like, movies in general, about how, like, groups of
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: people are thrust together, or people are thrust together in
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: terms of, like, duos, whatever.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: And the idea is that, like, the universe has said
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: you two need to be together. And Daniel seemed to
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: fight that, even though.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: Of course, like, he stole H.W., quote-unquote, made him to
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: his son, in a weird way, the world was telling
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: him you kind of, you need this.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Like you, you truly can't be this. You can't be
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: Emperor Palpatine. You can't be this solo. Yeah. You need something.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Cause that's just not how the world works. So, um,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: when people are just brought to your life, um, my
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: advice is accept them as you can. As bad as
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: that sounds.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: You never know.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: It's really stupid advice. I agree.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: Uh, what movie did you watch?
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: It was called Return of the Jedi?
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: When you said Emperor Palpatine, I'm like, I might.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: My advice I would give for this movie, let's see,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: trust only yourself. No one else matters.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: If your kid goes deaf, abandon them.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: That's not your problem. Yeah. Just keep going. You will win.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: We all needed Kieran Hines.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: No, but you're, They will eventually give in and care
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: about somebody if you have to discard them.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Just keep going. You'll always win and you'll be so
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: happy in the end. Your life will be so thrilling.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: You'll just shoot things in your hallway for fun. That's
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: how good your life will be. So just keep going, guys.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: Women don't exist. That's another takeaway I have from this movie.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: That actually is a very incredibly fair play. Much like birds.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: Much like birds.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Much like birds.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Besides Mary.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: They're real.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: No, they're, well, they're really drones sent from the government.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: Right. Better that you see it than me. And then,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: of course, yeah, I mean, it's okay to revisit the
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: plan every now and then. Like, if you're DDL, And
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: it's like you're five years in and you're an oil
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: tycoon and you've exceeded expectations earlier than you ever expected.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: It's okay to revisit what the 20-year plan was five
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: years ago. Let's revisit the 20-year plan now. Because he
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: could have... Not that you want to sail off into
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: the sunset, but that was an option. Would you rather
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: have sailed off into the sunset at 30 or done
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: the next 20 years of just alienating everybody and blah, blah, blah? Well.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: Again, that first deal they try to make with him,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: they give him what he says he wants. They're like, hey,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: you'll be a fucking millionaire, which no one else is
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: He's already a millionaire, yeah.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: And like, so like, take it. This was the whole
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: thing you're driving for. And he's like, I can't, because
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: he can't.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: Well, he'd have nothing. He said, what would I do
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: with myself? Great, because he can't.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: He can't do it. Like, you keep running, you can't
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: stop running. So that's the whole idea of like, you're
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: running for a goal of... I want to have some
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: sense of peace or some sense of like, like stability,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: but you can't accept that. You can't do that anymore.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: But also it's insane because like the cost of that
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: is out of control. We should stop.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: I think the move is, is probably communism. Don't you think? Okay.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's the lesson of this movie. The
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: lesson of this movie is what's more valuable than money
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: is human relationships. That would be my lesson.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: Even the ones that are trying so hard.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: The ones that love you more than you love yourself.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: If you want to be happy in the fulfilled way,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: not in the doing heroin way.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: It's human relationships.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: There are different levels of fulfillment.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: Sure, fair.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: Going to Podcast 3, Spiritual Enlightenment.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: All right, well, thank you for listening.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: Thanks, Kevin, so much.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: Thanks, Kevin. A thousand blessings to you both.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Thanks for having us here.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: Bye.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Catch you on the flip.