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Terminello’s Take on Mendoza Firing; Giannis and NHL DRAFT 6/26/26 · OneLegUpAlex Media

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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we thought here Ryan Pagano, Lou Terminello,
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  Speaker 1: Terminello's take, PAGs perspective, and I we all love the
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  Speaker 1: nick snapping their fifty three year drought would be, you know, the.
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  Speaker 2: Biggest you guys love that.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't biggest sports news of the summer, and it
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  Speaker 1: still is, trust me.
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  Speaker 2: But we thought it'd be the only boy were we wrong?
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  Speaker 1: Because that's not the only news that's happening in New
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  Speaker 1: York City, Lou Urminello. In the NBA world, we're all
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  Speaker 1: following the Gianna situation being traded, and of course here
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  Speaker 1: in New York we're following Carlos Mendoza's relief. And I
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  Speaker 1: told you guys, now, Lou's gonna make fun of me
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  Speaker 1: for this. I said, before Mendoza ever took the team
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  Speaker 1: down the canadon of heroes, he'd be painhandling down the
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  Speaker 1: cannon of heros first. Sure enough, he got fired just
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  Speaker 1: after the national embarrassment against the Phills last week, the
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  Speaker 1: nine error series against the Cubs. This was coming, wasn't it. Now?
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  Speaker 1: It could be escapegoat moon as move as well. Terminilo's
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  Speaker 1: take your first take.
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  Speaker 2: Alex, thanks for having me first of all. This is
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  Speaker 2: not on Mendoza. He was stuck with one of the
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  Speaker 2: worst rosters in met history, poorly constructed by boy wonder
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  Speaker 2: David Stern's which all of the media, all of the
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  Speaker 2: gas bags on ESPN and on MLB network. I was
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  Speaker 2: saying that this guy was going to be the messiah
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  Speaker 2: for the Mets issues. Alex, I don't believe he can
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  Speaker 2: he can run a big market team. Yeah, he spent
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  Speaker 2: David Stern's money. He spent it incorrectly, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's made He's done what what most guys in his
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  Speaker 2: situation will do. He's making somebody else escapegoat. I actually
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  Speaker 2: think this brings more attention to him for his failures.
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  Speaker 1: You know the funny part is, Guys, this is fascinating
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  Speaker 1: to me because Mets twenty twenty four his first season,
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  Speaker 1: I believe as a manager and every thought, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: with a disaster. He willed that team. So I think
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  Speaker 1: Mendoz is a really good manager. I just think he
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  Speaker 1: was forced to the destructive roster right now, a deconstructed roster,
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  Speaker 1: and let me get practice perspective as in this as well,
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  Speaker 1: aj Ewing Carson bench in that lineup with Nimo and Alonso.
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  Speaker 1: That would have been special to see, wouldn't it have?
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  Speaker 3: We're the would have, could have should have game. You
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  Speaker 3: just gotta love it. But really the woulda could have
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  Speaker 3: should have game, that's a perfect term to describe the
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six Mets season thus far. Would have, could have,
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  Speaker 3: should have. It's just been a recurring theme. What if
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  Speaker 3: David Stearns' offseason acquisitions actually worked out? What if they
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  Speaker 3: kept the homegrown stars around? What if they kept around
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  Speaker 3: Nemo and Alonso, pair them with benj and Ewing, maybe
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  Speaker 3: perhaps Ryan Clifford inevitably when he's ready to come up,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't know, that would have been not just
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  Speaker 3: entertaining to see, but also from a Mets historian perspective,
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  Speaker 3: it just would have been really fun to kind of
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  Speaker 3: see that bridge, if you will, loan the home grown
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  Speaker 3: stars of the past and the home grown stars of
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  Speaker 3: the future. Unfortunately, just not the case, and it's just
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  Speaker 3: backfiring on David Stearns in the worst possible way. That
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  Speaker 3: only could be rivaled by Alva Azen back in nineteen
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  Speaker 3: ninety two with the original worst team money could buy it.
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  Speaker 3: And I have to specify original because this twenty twenty
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  Speaker 3: sixth group. As much as I hate to say it,
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  Speaker 3: certainly given nineteen ninety two a run for its money.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, lou, I only think i'll say about that.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing I'll say about that Ryan, at least
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  Speaker 2: the previous eight years leading into the early nineties, the
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  Speaker 2: Mets had the best record in baseball. Yes, they only
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  Speaker 2: won one World Championship, but they won more games than
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  Speaker 2: anybody in baseball the last eight years for the Mets.
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  Speaker 2: This time, that's that, that's not going to be the same.
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  Speaker 1: What is He's sort of like you. He knows the nostalgia.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, he was only born in two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and one, so he's got a pretty young two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and two, a pretty young mind.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I like people, I like sports fans who look
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  Speaker 2: back at history before they were born. I do that
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  Speaker 2: all the time. I did that all the time when
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  Speaker 2: I was younger. So I give Ryan a lot of
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  Speaker 2: credit for knowing the history, not only of the teams
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  Speaker 2: you root for or support, just just in general. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I know that, But really.
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  Speaker 1: As winning ninety three, right, that's that's a common fact
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  Speaker 1: that the Knicks and not winning nineteen ninety three.
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  Speaker 2: Despite that, that's correct. Please will you tell Governor Hokell
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  Speaker 2: that the Knicks not win in nineteen ninety three?
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  Speaker 1: All right, I got on a more serious note though,
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  Speaker 1: so he he explodes that he just deconstructs the roster.
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  Speaker 1: But if you listen back to any of the Terminello's
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  Speaker 1: takes when Sterns was being hired, you warned all about
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  Speaker 1: all of us about this lily.
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  Speaker 2: Well again even in January this year when when he
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  Speaker 2: was putting this horrible roster together. We commented on it
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  Speaker 2: in January, and you know, you you put you combine
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  Speaker 2: that the getting rid of Alonso, in my opinion, one
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  Speaker 2: of besides trading Tom Seaver, probably the one of the
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  Speaker 2: worst uh non signings in that's history. If you want
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  Speaker 2: to put Strawberry there, you can. But that was more
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  Speaker 2: Strawberry had to go. You know, he had his issues.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, and Strawberry now says, you know, because
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  Speaker 2: he had an addiction issue, you know, said that was
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  Speaker 2: the worst mistake I ever made, you know, leaving. But
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  Speaker 2: again that life happens. But you put together this roster,
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  Speaker 2: they had too many of the same guys or playing
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  Speaker 2: out a position, and you combine that with all the
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  Speaker 2: injuries they've had. You know, with Toto, they're thirty one
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  Speaker 2: and thirty one, and in this day and age, thirty
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  Speaker 2: one and thirty one, five hundred puts you in the
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  Speaker 2: playoff race because you know, you know you have a chance.
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  Speaker 1: To instead Jared Young, right, who's in the.
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  Speaker 2: Well and Jarrett Young has done a good job for
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  Speaker 2: what Jarrett Young does. They're three and sixteen without without
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  Speaker 2: Sodo tells you how tells you how good Soda was
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  Speaker 2: right there. They've only had Bashett, Lindor and Solo together
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  Speaker 2: nine games all year, so Mendoza had his three best
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  Speaker 2: players for total of nine games. Freddy Peralta, who I
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  Speaker 2: always thought was okay, I never I mean he had
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  Speaker 2: to me, I know, wow factor. I think he was
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  Speaker 2: a third last year in the SYNG voting. Good for him,
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  Speaker 2: he's been he's been bad. They'll trade him by trade
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  Speaker 2: deadline and hopefully they get a prospect that'll contribute. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know now.
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  Speaker 1: What I'm interested to see is you know what I'm
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  Speaker 1: thinking is and I talked to Ryan about this earlier.
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  Speaker 1: You should have just followed line with the Phillies and
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  Speaker 1: the Red Sox if you knew this was gonna happen
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  Speaker 1: at some point. Pull the trigger at uh, pull the trigger,
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  Speaker 1: you know when these other teams did not in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of at the end of June, when it's pretty
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  Speaker 1: much done. I don't know it.
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  Speaker 3: Just when you're twelve games under five that rubs.
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  Speaker 2: Me the wrong way.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, like it's almost like the uh really Randolph firing,
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  Speaker 1: even though it was more dramatic, but yeah, they were
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  Speaker 1: out of it than too, and they fired him.
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  Speaker 3: But also, to oh waits credit, they were only I
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  Speaker 3: believe a game under five hundred when they pulled the
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  Speaker 3: plug on Randolph and all.
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  Speaker 2: Now, well they got I get yeah, I remember, but
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  Speaker 2: rand they lost the playoffs spot on the last day
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  Speaker 2: of the season, so they were in it all summer.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this team was seven and four and then
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  Speaker 2: lost twelve games in a row. And remember Soto missed
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  Speaker 2: all twelve of those game that they lost. H Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they could have done it then. You know. Obviously everybody
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  Speaker 2: was shocked when Alex Cora was fired. The Phillies had
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  Speaker 2: the Phillies when they fired Thompson, that was not a
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  Speaker 2: head scratcher because, unlike the Mets, when a lot of
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  Speaker 2: guys hurt the Phillies had nobody hurt. They were just
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  Speaker 2: playing lousy again. I don't know if if Thompson had
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  Speaker 2: stayed as manager at the Phillies would have gone thirty
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  Speaker 2: six and seventeen like they've had the last fifty three.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. But the Phillies have a very good team.
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  Speaker 2: They have a very good pitching staff. They have a
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  Speaker 2: great closer and the guy pitching tonight, the former Met
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  Speaker 2: that wanted to come back to the Mets. He took
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  Speaker 2: the eighteen year excuse me, the eighteen million dollar contract,
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  Speaker 2: the five year deal that the Phillies offered him back
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  Speaker 2: to Wilpond. This was Remember this was a year before
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  Speaker 2: Willpon sold And you want to an eighteen million dollars
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  Speaker 2: is nothing, especially now, which is almost Yeah, it is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: More success, I mean he was great as a Met,
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  Speaker 1: I thought, but he has had more success with the Phillies.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's gotten better.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they did not, and look to Wheeler's credit, he
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  Speaker 3: pitched well on the Mets, there's no denying that part.
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  Speaker 3: Did he pitch like a cy young candidate though for
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  Speaker 3: the Blue and Orange? Absolutely not. And when we look
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  Speaker 3: back in five or so years. When his career comes
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  Speaker 3: to a close, we're all gonna remember him as a
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  Speaker 3: Philadelphia Affilly, more likely than not, just based off of
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  Speaker 3: the amount of success he had there alone, the fact
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  Speaker 3: that he was able to make help his group in
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty two to the World Series in a year
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  Speaker 3: where there was a very competitive National League Eastern Division.
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  Speaker 3: But then also they were the perfect Cinderell underdog to
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  Speaker 3: root for. I mean, even as a fan of a
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  Speaker 3: division rival, I could somehow safely say that. But you
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  Speaker 3: also have to give credit to the Phills where it's due,
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  Speaker 3: because they knew the timing was right to pull the
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  Speaker 3: plug on Girardi back in twenty two, replace him with
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  Speaker 3: Rob Thompson back then, and really the same thing this season.
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  Speaker 3: They knew when the time was right to just pull
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  Speaker 3: the cord on Rob Thompson. Thank you for your service
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  Speaker 3: to this great organization, but we're replacing you with Don
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  Speaker 3: Mattigley and turn up. It has given them the jolt
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  Speaker 3: that they needed. And when he was fired, I was
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  Speaker 3: very same with Alexqurett two. When both of them were gone,
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  Speaker 3: I was very surprised that Mendoza was not one to
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  Speaker 3: follow because Rice was also right after the twelve games.
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  Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium when I saw Cork go fire or wherever
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  Speaker 1: I was, I remember, It's like, wow, cork got fired
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  Speaker 1: and they they just won the debt that day, which
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  Speaker 1: is even more interesting. But let me ask you, guys
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  Speaker 1: this the David Peterson trades. You say, Ryan is not
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  Speaker 1: gonna be the only one that we see, So let
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  Speaker 1: me get lose all take on that two. Is this
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a fire sale? Are they going to trade?
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  Speaker 2: Said?
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  Speaker 1: Who are they gonna trade? Now?
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  Speaker 2: Louis Well, I mean, I'll tell you the two guys
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  Speaker 2: who they can get the most for is Luke Weaver
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  Speaker 2: and Devin william I mean, Weaver's been spectacular, not good.
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  Speaker 2: He's been spectacular. It's a shame that that the Mets
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  Speaker 2: aren't in it. This is probably as good as he's
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  Speaker 2: ever pitched. So people are gonna call wonder boy Sterns
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  Speaker 2: about him. And with the exception of that one game
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  Speaker 2: where he gave up four runs with no without recording
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  Speaker 2: and out, and there was one other bad game, Williams
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  Speaker 2: has been very good. And there's a shorte of pitching,
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  Speaker 2: there's a shorte of relief pitching. So I think they'll
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  Speaker 2: be calling the Mets possibly for them. But Williams has,
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  Speaker 2: you know, make seventeen million dollars a year and has
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  Speaker 2: two years left on his deal. Weaver has one year
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  Speaker 2: left on his deal. I would not trade either one
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  Speaker 2: of them. These are the guys I would dump, and
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  Speaker 2: I know you can't get a lot of a lot
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  Speaker 2: for them in return. Mark Fiandos, he had a very
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  Speaker 2: good year two years ago, which was really his first,
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  Speaker 2: his first full year. His body language stinks. He can't
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: hit right handed pitching. He hits left handed pitching very well.
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  Speaker 2: He can't what's his position? If you said to me,
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  Speaker 2: who would you if you have to keep one of
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  Speaker 2: these two on the roster, Vientos or or Baby, who's
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  Speaker 2: been a disappointment. I still think you probably might get long,
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  Speaker 2: you might get lucky, and Baby might develop into the
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  Speaker 2: player we thought he was going to be. I would
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  Speaker 2: get rid, I would get rid of I get rid
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  Speaker 2: of Vientos. They're gonna have to eat Simeon's contract, and
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: you talk about one of the worst trades in Mets history.
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  Speaker 2: Not so much that Brandon Nemo is tearing up the
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  Speaker 2: American League. He's not, but he's he should still be
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  Speaker 2: on the Mets, or if the Mets were going to
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  Speaker 2: trade him, they needed to trade him for somebody who
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: Toll League knows was washed up. Marcus Simeon is washed up,
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  Speaker 2: and the Mets have him for another two years after
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  Speaker 2: this one that he was supposed to and uh tighten
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  Speaker 2: the defense, and he did up until the last week.
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  Speaker 2: Now we find out that he's playing with an injury
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  Speaker 2: and now he's on He's on the UH on the
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  Speaker 2: I L. But he can't be the Mets second basement
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  Speaker 2: going forward. Uh, Steve Comin' is gonna have to eat
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  Speaker 2: that money, Lewis, Robert I told you in January. This
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  Speaker 2: is I mean, this is no surprise. Yeah, he he
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  Speaker 2: hit thirty eight home runs a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 2: But he's got a bad back. He's always injured. They're
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  Speaker 2: gonna have to eat that money. You have to again,
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  Speaker 2: you can't. You can't in New York coaches, you and me, Louis.
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  Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you this, the bechet rumors true false?
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  Speaker 1: What are we thinking as far as as far as
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: does he really want to opt out or is that.
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  Speaker 2: Just Alex He has a one year he has a
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  Speaker 2: even though he had a three year deal. He has
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  Speaker 2: a one year deal. He's been he unless he bats
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  Speaker 2: two twenty and he's been coming on. He's opting out.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, Cody Bellenser, I believe has
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  Speaker 2: an opt out after his next year. He's opting out.
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  Speaker 2: These guys are opting But the only thing that might
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  Speaker 2: change that, there's one factor that might change that moving
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  Speaker 2: forward that in the past all these guys opted out.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: We don't know what the new collective bargaining agreement's going
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: to look like. The owners don't want any more these
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: fifteen year deals or twelve year deals or ten year deals.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: They want to do what the NHL did in the
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: last collective bargain agreement starting this year. In the NHL
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  Speaker 2: after July first, the longest contract I believe is seven years,
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  Speaker 2: so I know that in the latest proposal the Major
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  Speaker 2: league owners want to limit that to five or six years.
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  Speaker 2: So they all opt and I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: People are on the MLBPA Instagram, but they've been sharing
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  Speaker 1: their side.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like it's getting pretty ugly, and we're not
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  Speaker 2: even it is. Yeah, it's it's getting pretty ugly. So
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  Speaker 2: that might change. All these guys from moping out because
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  Speaker 2: they may not get the long term forty five million
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  Speaker 2: dollar deal at now.
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  Speaker 1: Is that why they locked up the young kids in Detroit? Uh,
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  Speaker 1: locking up their kid and then Griffin in uh, Pirate
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  Speaker 1: in the in Pittsburgh. They're locking up now because they
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  Speaker 1: know it could be different next year. Is that what
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  Speaker 1: the reasoning is?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it could be. I mean the Brave did that
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: a couple of years ago with with a you know,
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  Speaker 2: Ronald Couna junior, and that was a smart move. And
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: I think they did that. They might have done that
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  Speaker 2: with Alvis. I'm not sure. I think they did it
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  Speaker 2: with a couple of their pictures. Yeah, that's a smart move.
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  Speaker 2: You're basically giving them term, but you're getting a yearly
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  Speaker 2: average discount on what you're paying these guys. So again
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  Speaker 2: that that's the only thing we don't know about to
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  Speaker 2: opt out. But if everything stays the same, all these
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  Speaker 2: guys who have opt outs, unless they they are batting
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  Speaker 2: two ten, Uh, they're all opting out.
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  Speaker 1: They are see that'll be a big free agent market.
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  Speaker 1: Then if that's the case, all right, Uh, let's switch
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  Speaker 1: gears for a moment. I mean, the Yanks are going
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  Speaker 1: to be steady I know they lost yesterday. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if feel like talking about them, because what you're
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  Speaker 1: passionate about is what the Islanders did today. And when
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  Speaker 1: I saw that anders Lee. You know, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if this signing bumps out enders Lee, but Lou, if
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  Speaker 1: they don't resign anders Lee, that that I'd be very sad.
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  Speaker 1: He needs to be brought back. In addition to Tony
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  Speaker 1: Deally Angelo right.
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  Speaker 2: Alex, I love anders Lee. He was an outstanding on
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  Speaker 2: Islander and uh is Ryan alf Ryan is still on
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  Speaker 2: the line or not, But uh, unless it's a one
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  Speaker 2: year deal, I think we see the end of anders Lee.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they, I really do. He was a terrific Islander,
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  Speaker 2: but this is a business. They signed Tommy DiAngelo two years,
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  Speaker 2: nine million, four point five million a year for the
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  Speaker 2: next two years. He's a right handed defense in which
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: the league has a shortage of He had did a
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: very good job list with the Islanders or in a
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  Speaker 2: league where you need as many puck moving defensemen out
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  Speaker 2: of your ends as possible. And I think we've seen again.
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  Speaker 2: I could be wrong, because the Islanders' cap space is
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: not unlimited. It's limited, and I think you might see
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  Speaker 2: the end of anders Lee as as an Islander.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they had their time times with him, they had
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: their changes with him, that's for sure. And of course
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: one of the things I always say is if he
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  Speaker 1: was healthy during any of those Cup runs, they would
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  Speaker 1: have won the Cup with him. Just unfortunate because the
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: injury hit him and it just.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the when when he broke his uh, you know,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: when he broke his fuller, broke his ankle and miscos
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: in that playoff that was the second year they were
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: in a conference fall in most game set in the
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Tampa Yeah, they would have beat they would have beaten
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Montreal probably in five games, and he would have been uh,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: the commissioner would have been would have been handing Andrews
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: lead at Stanley Cup.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: But is this signing effect?
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Obviously last year the NHL draft went to the Islanders
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: and they got the king of the crop with Matt Schaeffer.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know, is McKenna the next big one to
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: get drafted tonight? Is that who everybody's eyes are on.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Well, let's see either McKenna, who I think that the
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: least will pick. He's Canadian is Toronto a Stenberg, the
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Swedish kid who can play left wing or right wing.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: And I've seen him play a little, but i've seen
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: McKenna play. But I saw Stenberg in the World's Championships
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: about a month ago. Alex he put a move on
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: and you know he's playing against men that was NHL worthy.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: So they're gonna they'll probably be drafted in the top
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: top four, top two. The mckennae will probably go one,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Stenburgh will go two. They're saying that there could be
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: a defenseman that goes too, to San Jose. I don't
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: think so. Buffalo is looking for a defenseman at four.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: The Rangers pick five. I don't think the Rangers are
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: trading that pick. Maybe they'll trade the second pick in
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: the first round, the twenty six pick. You know, there's
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: a rumor going around that that they might trade the
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: twenty sixth pick in Lonfournier for Mason McTavish, a twenty
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: three year old that plays for the Ducks. I don't know.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the smartest thing to do
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: or not, but there's gonna be There's gonna be a
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: lot of movement. Does Austin Matthews get traded in the
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: next week before the July, first free agency period starts.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: We've already seen, We've already seen potential free agents taken
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: off the board. Alex Tuck, his rights were traded to
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: the Capitals. They quickly signed him to an eight year deal.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: The same thing with Jordan Cairo of the Saint Louis Blues,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: who was always an Islander target. You know, he was traded,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: so we could see a couple of more of those
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: type of things. Even tonight, Well, the Islanders traded their
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: thirteenth pick for an established player. Maybe maybe. I mean,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: let's face it, the Islander's two greatest assets are Soroken
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: and and Matthew Schaeffer.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Now that's the other most hated GM in the city
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: because I think turned his right up. There is Chris Jury,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: and he of course trades Brett Barrard, and you know,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I really felt for that kid because he was sent up,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: he was sent down, he was throwing this. I mean,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: they didn't have a consistent plan for him whatsoever, Louis.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: It just was I think the kids got potential. So
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: he goes to Montreal and I guess that's a big
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: move in a sense because now I think the Ranger
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: got a draft pick. But I mean, should Ranger fans
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: be excited today?
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if you should be excited because
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: they do have the fifth pick, so they should get
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: somebody who's almost NHL ready, or they might get somebody that,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: as they say, plug and play, somebody will draft tonight
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: and we'll be on the roster on on the opening day.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Uh roster. Could that happen? Yeah, that that can happen,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: but we'll have to you know, we'll have to see
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: what happens happens tonight. Uh. Again, the Rangers are under,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: you know, under a lot of pressure. And don't think
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: the fact that they're the team that that probably had
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: their offices down the whole all the way from the
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Ranger offices. Don't think that doesn't put pressure on the
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Ranger organization because they're both on by the same by
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: the same guy. He didn't get fired on the parade stage.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I thought, don't want to do that. I was, I
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: was way off on that. So you know, look, you're right,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: the pressure is on the Rangers. I mean, if you
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: just over the garden now and see all the memorabilia,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: the banners, I'll take twenty twenty six NBA champions if
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I'm a Ranger player looking at that, I'd be as
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: motivated as Jackson Dart across the river, because I think
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Dart's pretty motivated that he saw the Knicks.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Do this and he wants to do something like that
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: for the Giants. But anyway, if if I'm a player
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: of the.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Rangers, I look at that and I say, wait a minute,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: we should have that scaffold, we should have that banner
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: up there, you know what I mean. So maybe they'll
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: motivate them a lot more. So we'll see.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, they're going to be aware of it,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: that's for sure. I also think that the Devils are
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: going to be very active in the next two three weeks.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I mean they traded you know, Simon minche Nimic the
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: other day for you know, some future draft picks to
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Calgary and you know, they need a goalie. Will they
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: be involved in the Clutterbuck situation and that's the big
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: thing now, all of all these American players want to
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: leave Canada. We'll see if that, if that is a trend.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: You know, Brady could Chook going to Florida. Yes, they
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: got multiple draft picks Otherwood did, but that's a great trade.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: A great trade for Florida. And you know, Brady could chook.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: You know, he's he He drove the trade. He gave
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: him a short list of we was going to go
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: and Florida is one of them. And let's face it,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: everybody knows he was gonna live in Florida because of
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: his brother. And I think, you know, as we said
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: earlier in the season, when we knew that Florida was
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: going to miss the playoffs, the best thing for Laura
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: to reboot and get back to be a Stanley Cup
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: contender was having these two months off that they didn't play.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, the last three years they play an additional
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: six months of knockdown, drag out playoff hockey. They played.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: They played twelve extra a series that knocks the hell
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: out of you physically. You know, it'll have Barkoff from
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: the whole season, one of the best players in the world.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Back Matthew Kachuck, who miss half the season, is going
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: to be there from day one. Now they have Brady.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: There's some questions about will Sergey Barbrowski be their goaltender,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: will they go after Jordan Bennington. I don't think Jordan
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Binnington even now is as good as a thirty seven
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: year old Bobrowski. I know he didn't have a good year,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: but needed did the Florida Panthers. So will will the
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Devil's get involved with some of these goalies? Will they
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: trade Markstrom? Who has you know, Jacob Markson starts a
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: two year extension this year. He was not good for
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: the for the Devils last year. I'm surprised that Sheldon
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Keith is still the coach. I thought he would be fired,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: but I would say he's now on a very short leash.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: But uh, I think the next month is going to
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: be something that's going to be very interesting for all
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: three teams. And I think this weekend is going to
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: be interesting. Tonight might be interesting.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Well, Louis will have to see now a couple of
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: cultural things before we wrap up here. And you know,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I'm an avid Fanatics guy. I promote them a lot.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: But Modell's could be coming back. Can you believe this?
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I was listening. You know, you were on
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: there the other night with mister Idell and mister Modell
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Mitchell Modell, who was a big supporter of NETS basketball
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: when when I was with the Nets organization. Uh, yeah,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I guess he wants to come back with with I guess, uh,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: some brick and mortar stores and some online business. So
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: we'll have to wait and see. But obviously Modell's this
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: was a staple when it came to sporting goods in
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: the in the Northeast where I got my.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: First skate Louis as people now know.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I heard, I heard you say that on
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: the on the broadcast that when I was listening.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: So we'll see. But the other cultural thing is unless
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: it's changed now with all the weather whatever's Uh, there's
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: like og On Andobi scheduled to throughout the first pitch
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Sunday for the Mets.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: That's pretty cool that it will.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Be at City Field with.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: They have celebrities now, Alex they are the kings.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Of New York right now, there's no doubt about it.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: So absolutely, and they should. They should soak it all
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: in because there's no guarantee. Uh, you know, you gotta
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: get another shot at it, So definitely soak it in
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: And uh and following following arms and I'm gonna upload
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: a conversation I had with a woman in horse racing,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Amber Farcas. I met her up at Saratoga, and she's
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: got quite a story in horse racing. But I bring
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: that up because if there are any avid horse racing face,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: you got to get up to the big A this weekend.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: It's the final meets for Aqueduct after one hundred and
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: thirty two years, Louis, I mean, it's.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Gonna be a ten week surprise. Yeah, you're right, one
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: hundred and thirty two years. I'm surprised that hasn't gotten
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: more notoriety in the metropolitan area.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: And you know, I got to post it on Instagram too,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: But Bellamy Road's gonna have a race named in his honor.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: And of course people that may not know Bellamy Road
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: won the wo Memorial and he was George Steinberner's horse,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: and now he's got a race named after him in
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: this final weekend. So I think that's pretty cool. And
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: you know, as you know, we've had a deep history
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: with Nyris since two thousand and three. My dad and
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I and I got to see a lot of jockeys
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: when I was up in Saratoga a few weeks ago.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, it just it will be an emotional weekend
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: because I spent a lot of winters there. But I
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: think the Rasino kind of pushed them out. I really
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: feel like that was the case here.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I could be wrong, but now you're probably right, Alex.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: And the thing is nothing stays the same. You know
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: you heard the big media thing this week north of
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: the border Hockey Night in Canada after seventy four years
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: is is no no more Hockey Night in Canada. You know,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: an institution and that's gone. All Canadian hockey will be.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: You have to have streaming or cable. No more, no
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: more hockey on CBC. So nothing stays the same.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Nope, nope, nothing except we always get Tominado's take that
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: never changes, so that's always a good thing.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I I appreciate that, Alex, thank you so much
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: real quick. The Bucks trading at the Koupo to Boston,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of it, I really don't.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's gonna help Boston that much
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: or well, we won't know until down the road. And
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: how much is gonna help Milwaukee, I mean to Miami.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know how much's gonna help Miami. Obviously Boston
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: was in on it, and uh they had Jalen Brown
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: in on it, and now it looks like that the
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: fact that they put Brown out there, Brown looks like
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: he's going to be traded somewhere sooner than later because
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: uh that rift of being you know, dangled out there
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: for a nettakupo is uh uh you know that wound
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: is it's fresh. Yeah, so uh you know, so I
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: They won, and I tell you if they if Kyrie
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: doesn't get stept on, that changes the Wholes Conference semifinals.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely absolutely does. Remember they were down to nothing.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Then that's robbed to nothing in that series. One thing
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: before I forget and I'm jumping jumping on one last
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: thing and then then you could we could we can
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: wrap this up. Last week, I made I misspoke when
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I said the Carolina Panthers like the Carolina Hurricanes. Uh
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: where the eighth the eighth different in the Stanley Cup
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: champion the last eight years. I got that mixed up.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: I meant I meant to say the Knicks for the
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: eighth different champion in the last eight years. So I
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: just wanted to clear that up. I know last week
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: we did the we did the podcast slagh that night,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: so uh maybe I uh uh was a little a
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: little tied at that.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Time, maybe so well, louis always a pleasure getting you
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: on Toterminilo's take, and a lot has happened, but for
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: now I'm Alex Garrett. That's Terminiello's take at one look
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: up Alex Media and uh, I'm sure we're talking before
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Happy Fourth of July.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: But we're almost there, Lous, We're almost at the fourth
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: America's coming. I'm looking forward to it. Alex, thank you
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: so much, as always a pleasure.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: My friend. Talk to you soon.