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- 0:00Speaker 1: Every fall, thousands of students showed up. They moved into apartments,
- 0:04Speaker 1: unpacked their things, and prepped for the upcoming semester. It
- 0:08Speaker 1: was a college town where the biggest worry was when
- 0:11Speaker 1: your next assignment was due, or whether your roommate would
- 0:14Speaker 1: get along with you. But in nineteen ninety someone was
- 0:17Speaker 1: already in the trees nearby watching. He had come from
- 0:21Speaker 1: elsewhere carrying something no one could have imagined, and by
- 0:25Speaker 1: the time the first week of classes was over, five
- 0:28Speaker 1: students were dead, and the man responsible was closer than
- 0:32Speaker 1: anyone thought. This is the story of the Gainesville Ripper. Crime, conspiracy, cults,
- 0:39Speaker 1: serial killers, and murder all things that I left to consume.
- 0:41Speaker 1: And I know you do, do you sick tisted, beautiful,
- 0:44Speaker 1: intellectually minded freak? And today we are talking about a
- 0:48Speaker 1: very infamous killer that I think a lot of people
- 0:50Speaker 1: don't know about, and he is the killer that inspired
- 0:54Speaker 1: the franchise screen. So, without further adue, let's unbuckle our seatbelts,
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- 3:12Speaker 1: for sponsoring the video and supporting the channel, and let's
- 3:14Speaker 1: get back to it. Danny Harold Rolling was born on
- 3:17Speaker 1: May twenty sixth, nineteen fifty four, in Shreveport, Louisiana, and
- 3:21Speaker 1: his parents, James and Claudia, had married roughly a year earlier,
- 3:25Speaker 1: when Claudia was in her late teen slash early twenties,
- 3:28Speaker 1: and it only took James about two weeks of marriage
- 3:31Speaker 1: to show Claudia who he really was, and the violence
- 3:34Speaker 1: started almost before their life together had a chance to begin. Now,
- 3:37Speaker 1: James Rolling was a police officer on the Shreveport Force,
- 3:41Speaker 1: and he carried a badge professionally and brought the authority
- 3:44Speaker 1: that came with it into his home every single night.
- 3:48Speaker 1: To the outside world, he was, you know, law enforcement,
- 3:51Speaker 1: but behind closed doors he was the very thing people
- 3:54Speaker 1: call law enforcement about. And when Claudia found out she
- 3:58Speaker 1: was pregnant, James didn't celebrate. James resented the pregnancy and
- 4:03Speaker 1: told Claudia the child was her own doing. Don't think
- 4:06Speaker 1: that's how that works, James. I think it takes dud
- 4:09Speaker 1: to dango. James, you idiot, And he said that he
- 4:12Speaker 1: never asked for it and didn't want it. There's these
- 4:16Speaker 1: crazy things called condoms. James look him up. And when
- 4:19Speaker 1: Danny finally arrived, that resentment didn't fade away with time,
- 4:23Speaker 1: and Claudia and James would go on to have another child.
- 4:27Speaker 1: He did not learn his lesson, and his name would
- 4:29Speaker 1: be Kevin. So Danny had a younger brother named Kevin,
- 4:32Speaker 1: and Kevin's arrival didn't make things any better with James.
- 4:36Speaker 1: It just gave him two targets instead of one, or
- 4:39Speaker 1: actually three targets instead of one, since he was a
- 4:41Speaker 1: jackass to his own wife now. Claudia left James again
- 4:44Speaker 1: and again across the span of the marriage, and she
- 4:47Speaker 1: would disappear for weeks, sometimes even months, in an attempt
- 4:51Speaker 1: to build real resistance between herself and her violent husband.
- 4:55Speaker 1: But no matter how long she stayed gone, she always
- 4:58Speaker 1: came back, and every time she returned, the cycle picked
- 5:02Speaker 1: up exactly where it had left off. So James just
- 5:04Speaker 1: ran the household through control and violence, and neither had
- 5:08Speaker 1: a limit, unfortunately, and he would beat Claudia regularly and
- 5:12Speaker 1: put hands on both boys from the time they were toddlers,
- 5:16Speaker 1: and the triggers for his violence were very unpredictable and absurd,
- 5:20Speaker 1: and something even as minor as the way one of
- 5:23Speaker 1: the boys was breathing could set him off. And on
- 5:26Speaker 1: the days when his fists stayed down, his mouth took
- 5:29Speaker 1: over because he was verbally abusive as well, so James
- 5:32Speaker 1: would just lay into Danny with words instead, calling him
- 5:35Speaker 1: unwanted and telling him he should never have existed, so
- 5:39Speaker 1: there was no version of daily life where the boys
- 5:42Speaker 1: felt safe in their own home, which is incredibly sad.
- 5:45Speaker 1: And being a cop just gave James tools that most
- 5:48Speaker 1: abusive fathers didn't have, and he made sure to use
- 5:51Speaker 1: every single one of them. And one time he threw
- 5:54Speaker 1: Danny to the ground and snapped a pair of handcuffs
- 5:56Speaker 1: on him, and then he called in his fellow officers,
- 6:00Speaker 1: who came and took the boy away, and all Danny
- 6:03Speaker 1: had done was embarrass his father, and James had his
- 6:06Speaker 1: own son hauled off like a suspect for it. Guy's
- 6:10Speaker 1: ego is as fragile as an eggshell, so normal childhood
- 6:14Speaker 1: milestones didn't exist under this roof. Birthdays went uncelebrated, and
- 6:19Speaker 1: so did every holiday, and the small rituals that most
- 6:23Speaker 1: families build a childhood around were just stripped away entirely.
- 6:27Speaker 1: And when Danny brought home a puppy at one point,
- 6:29Speaker 1: James directed his violence at the animal. This guy's just
- 6:33Speaker 1: the megapiece of shit, and he would keep at it
- 6:36Speaker 1: day after day until one day the dog actually passed
- 6:39Speaker 1: away in Danny's arms, and Claudia's suffering went well beyond
- 6:44Speaker 1: the routine beatings as well, and she ended up in
- 6:46Speaker 1: the hospital at least once that we know of, telling
- 6:49Speaker 1: the staff that James had put a razor blade in
- 6:51Speaker 1: her hand and made her turn it on herself. And
- 6:55Speaker 1: through it all she could see what was happening to
- 6:58Speaker 1: her older son, and she tried to Danny in front
- 7:00Speaker 1: of a psychologist, someone who could evaluate and maybe even
- 7:04Speaker 1: help him, but James shut down every single attempt that
- 7:07Speaker 1: she made, and according to him, there was no problem.
- 7:10Speaker 1: Danny was just going through something and sooner or later
- 7:14Speaker 1: he would snap out of it on his own. Now,
- 7:16Speaker 1: the professionals who did manage to observe Danny at school
- 7:19Speaker 1: saw something different, and school counselors flagged him before he
- 7:24Speaker 1: finished the third grade, noting aggression and an inability to
- 7:27Speaker 1: control his impulses, similar to his father, because sometimes history
- 7:32Speaker 1: repeats itself in these cases, and his behavior problems bled
- 7:36Speaker 1: into his academics and he fell behind in the classroom.
- 7:39Speaker 1: Still without parental cooperation at home, those assessments pretty much
- 7:44Speaker 1: went nowhere, and Danny's teenage years brought an escalation of
- 7:47Speaker 1: his behavior on every front, and he would start drinking
- 7:51Speaker 1: and using drugs early into his teens and police even
- 7:54Speaker 1: arrested him at least twice for alcohol alone, and he
- 7:57Speaker 1: would run away from home repeatedly, likely a vain attempt
- 8:01Speaker 1: to get away from his abusive father on any terms
- 8:04Speaker 1: he could find. But he also began creeping out to
- 8:07Speaker 1: windows at night, peeping in to watch girls as they untressed,
- 8:13Speaker 1: and he was caught doing it more than once, but
- 8:15Speaker 1: the behavior didn't stop, and it started to become a compulsion.
- 8:19Speaker 1: So Danny's kind of becoming creep at this point, and
- 8:23Speaker 1: crime just kind of caught his attention while he was young,
- 8:27Speaker 1: and he moved from shoplifting and petty theft to breaking
- 8:31Speaker 1: into homes, and police picked him up multiple times, leading
- 8:34Speaker 1: to his stints in one juvenile facility after another, but
- 8:38Speaker 1: still none of it slowed him down, and each criminal
- 8:41Speaker 1: release only brought on worse behavior, and Danny eventually dropped
- 8:45Speaker 1: out of high school entirely and unable to shake his
- 8:48Speaker 1: behavioral issues. He never gained footing that might have offered
- 8:51Speaker 1: him another path, and he left with no diploma, a
- 8:55Speaker 1: juvenile record, and a childhood that handed him almost nothing
- 8:58Speaker 1: positive to carry forward. Everything that happened while growing up
- 9:02Speaker 1: inside that house followed him out the door and it
- 9:05Speaker 1: showed itself plainly in his volatility with authority and his
- 9:09Speaker 1: inability to connect with anyone around him. So, after dropping
- 9:13Speaker 1: out of high school, Danny joined the US Air Force,
- 9:16Speaker 1: but the military didn't hold him long, and within a
- 9:19Speaker 1: year he picked up a drug possession charge and got
- 9:21Speaker 1: written up for disobeying orders, and in nineteen seventy two,
- 9:25Speaker 1: the Air Force discharged him and he was back in
- 9:27Speaker 1: Shreveport with nothing to show for it. And upon his
- 9:30Speaker 1: return he landed at his grandfather's place, and for a
- 9:33Speaker 1: short while things seemed to kind of level out, and
- 9:36Speaker 1: he started attending church regularly, and it seemed that something
- 9:40Speaker 1: resembling stability started to take shape around him for the
- 9:44Speaker 1: very first time in his life. But substances kept pulling
- 9:47Speaker 1: him away, and the drinking that had started in his
- 9:50Speaker 1: teens never really stopped, and the drug use that ended
- 9:53Speaker 1: his military career carried right along with it. And just
- 9:57Speaker 1: like everything else, work never really stuck either. Danny couldn't
- 10:00Speaker 1: hold a job any longer than he could hold an address,
- 10:04Speaker 1: always moving before anything had a chance to even take root.
- 10:07Speaker 1: But in his time at church, Danny met a young
- 10:11Speaker 1: woman named oh Math Holco and the two were married
- 10:14Speaker 1: on September sixth, nineteen seventy four, at the United Pentecostal
- 10:18Speaker 1: Church in Shreveport. Now she was nineteen and the couple
- 10:22Speaker 1: had a daughter together pretty soon after, and Danny resorted
- 10:25Speaker 1: to alcohol in marijuana to try and handle the pressures
- 10:28Speaker 1: of marriage and fatherhood, and the voyeurism that had started
- 10:32Speaker 1: in his teenage years managed to return even while the
- 10:35Speaker 1: marriage was still intact, and that abuse that he had
- 10:38Speaker 1: grown up with became the abuse he handed down, unfortunately,
- 10:43Speaker 1: and he drove oh Math away with the same sort
- 10:46Speaker 1: of violence that had been constant in his own childhood.
- 10:49Speaker 1: So she would leave and the divorce would be finalized.
- 10:52Speaker 1: So at this point, troubled by disturbing thoughts and a
- 10:54Speaker 1: habit of peeking into windows, as we know, Danny went
- 10:58Speaker 1: downhill after this divorce, and this is when he would
- 11:01Speaker 1: commit what is believed to be his first essay. And
- 11:05Speaker 1: the resemblance of the woman to o'mather was unmistakable, and
- 11:09Speaker 1: whatever restraint that had once kept him at the edges
- 11:12Speaker 1: of other people's lives, watching from the dark, was now gone.
- 11:16Speaker 1: And from that point forward he followed a grim pattern,
- 11:20Speaker 1: and he crossed the country by himself, robbing people and
- 11:24Speaker 1: sexual assaulting women along the way. And the robbery started
- 11:27Speaker 1: not long after his marriage dissolved, and two Win Dixie
- 11:31Speaker 1: supermarkets were among his targets, along with a string of
- 11:34Speaker 1: other stores. And these weren't, by any means sophisticated jobs,
- 11:38Speaker 1: and they weren't hard to trace back to him. And
- 11:41Speaker 1: by the end of the decade, his robbery spree had
- 11:43Speaker 1: stretched across state lines, and he hit targets throughout the South,
- 11:47Speaker 1: moving fast and recklessly enough that law enforcement eventually caught up,
- 11:51Speaker 1: and in nineteen seventy nine he was locked up in Jackson,
- 11:54Speaker 1: Georgia for armed robbery, and he walked out of prison
- 11:57Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty four and was just back to Robin
- 12:00Speaker 1: within months. In the nineteen eighties, repeated the cycle on
- 12:03Speaker 1: a wider scale, and Alabama locked him up for armed
- 12:07Speaker 1: robbery as well, and so did Mississippi, and the charge
- 12:11Speaker 1: never changed, and neither did rolling. Why I don't understand,
- 12:14Speaker 1: like there are multiple charges, Just lock him up for life.
- 12:17Speaker 1: He's just going to keep Robin shit the what is happening?
- 12:20Speaker 1: But he would serve his time, walk out and pick
- 12:23Speaker 1: up exactly where he left off, and by his mid thirties.
- 12:27Speaker 1: Rolling had spent the majority of his adult life either
- 12:29Speaker 1: locked up or running from the consequences of what he
- 12:32Speaker 1: had done. Well free, and he had no home, no
- 12:35Speaker 1: family willing to claim him, and a criminal record that
- 12:38Speaker 1: stretched across several states. So in November of nineteen eighty nine,
- 12:43Speaker 1: Julie Grissom was twenty four years old and living in Shreveport, Louisiana,
- 12:47Speaker 1: as well as her father, William Grissom, who also went
- 12:50Speaker 1: by the name Tom. Now Tom's eight year old grandson
- 12:54Speaker 1: Sean rounded out a tight family circle, and a year earlier,
- 12:58Speaker 1: Julie had fallen in love with a man named Hal Carter,
- 13:01Speaker 1: and the two talked about getting married, though they couldn't
- 13:04Speaker 1: agree on the timeline, and Carter wanted to date for
- 13:07Speaker 1: three years first, while Julie pushed for one, and they
- 13:11Speaker 1: settled onto but before the wedding could happen, the relationship
- 13:14Speaker 1: ended over timing. But the way Carter remembered, Julie had
- 13:18Speaker 1: nothing to do with how things fell apart. Same quote.
- 13:21Speaker 1: She'd opened that door, and she had this smile like
- 13:25Speaker 1: she had just been waiting for me, and she could
- 13:27Speaker 1: hardly bear to wait any longer. She just made people
- 13:30Speaker 1: feel good about themselves. And during this time, Rolling was
- 13:34Speaker 1: back in Shreveport and working at a restaurant, and he'd
- 13:37Speaker 1: been fired from the job for repeated absences, losing the
- 13:40Speaker 1: last thread of structure holding his daily life together basically,
- 13:44Speaker 1: and it is believed that he saw Julie at her
- 13:46Speaker 1: department store job in a local mall and marked her
- 13:49Speaker 1: as a target. So on November fourth, nineteen eighty nine,
- 13:53Speaker 1: just hours after Rolling had been fired from the restaurant, Tom, Julie,
- 13:58Speaker 1: and Sean Grissom were stepped to death inside Tom's home
- 14:02Speaker 1: while preparing for dinner. So Shreveport officers responded to Tom's
- 14:06Speaker 1: residence and discovered the three victims dead inside, and the
- 14:10Speaker 1: scene was violent and organized in ways that unsettled investigators,
- 14:15Speaker 1: and all three of them died from knife wounds, and
- 14:18Speaker 1: Julie was assaulted during the attack, and later Danny would
- 14:23Speaker 1: wash her body and stage it in a deliberate position
- 14:26Speaker 1: before leaving. Now, at this point there was no immediate
- 14:28Speaker 1: suspects and no witnesses and no clear motive tying anyone
- 14:33Speaker 1: to the family, so the investigation went nowhere and Roling's
- 14:37Speaker 1: name didn't surface at all during the initial investigation, and
- 14:40Speaker 1: instead suspicion landed on the wrong person entirely, and investigators
- 14:45Speaker 1: zeroed in on how Carter, the ex boyfriend, and the
- 14:49Speaker 1: weight of that suspicion followed him for years, because I mean,
- 14:53Speaker 1: usually in these scenarios they look at people that are
- 14:55Speaker 1: actually close to the family, especially when they're this violent
- 14:59Speaker 1: and seeming random. But six months after the Grisome murders
- 15:02Speaker 1: in May of nineteen ninety, Rolling turned on the man
- 15:05Speaker 1: who had shaped him, and he showed up and shot
- 15:08Speaker 1: his father multiple times. So James would naturally collapse, bleeding badly,
- 15:14Speaker 1: but he would not die, and he survived the shooting,
- 15:18Speaker 1: though the damage was permanent and James lost the use
- 15:21Speaker 1: of one eye and one ear, injuries he would carry
- 15:25Speaker 1: for the rest of his life. So after he shot
- 15:27Speaker 1: his father, Danny left and cut a path from Louisiana
- 15:31Speaker 1: into Florida, burglarizing businesses and houses and stealing whatever vehicles
- 15:36Speaker 1: he needed to keep moving forward, and he would go
- 15:38Speaker 1: on to assault another woman by August in Sarasota, Florida,
- 15:43Speaker 1: and then he kept moving north. So Rolling had made
- 15:46Speaker 1: his way through Florida and reached Gainesville right as the
- 15:49Speaker 1: fall semester at University of Florida was getting underway, and
- 15:52Speaker 1: more than three fourths of the university's thirty four thousand
- 15:55Speaker 1: students lived off campus, scattered across apartment complexes throughout city,
- 16:00Speaker 1: and classes were set to begin around when Rolling arrived,
- 16:04Speaker 1: and he set up camp in the woods near the university,
- 16:07Speaker 1: living out of the trees with whatever he'd carried or
- 16:10Speaker 1: stolen along the way. And to anyone who might have
- 16:13Speaker 1: noticed him, he was just, you know, another drifter, and
- 16:16Speaker 1: the students moving into the apartments that week didn't seem
- 16:19Speaker 1: to really notice him at all. And Christina or Christy
- 16:22Speaker 1: Powell was seventeen years old from Jacksonville, and she was
- 16:26Speaker 1: someone who found the bright side of things without being
- 16:29Speaker 1: told to look for it, and she wanted to design
- 16:32Speaker 1: homes for people who couldn't afford them. And Christie's best
- 16:35Speaker 1: friend was headed to New York for college, and she
- 16:37Speaker 1: refused to make it about the goodbye, and her friend
- 16:39Speaker 1: dreaded the separation, but Christie kept steering the conversation toward
- 16:43Speaker 1: all the trips they would take back and forth, and
- 16:45Speaker 1: she really cared for her friend and made plans to
- 16:49Speaker 1: stay close. And Christie's roommate was eighteen year old Sonya
- 16:52Speaker 1: Larson of Deerfield Beach who had dreams of becoming a teacher,
- 16:57Speaker 1: and she loved children and carried that warmth into every
- 17:00Speaker 1: relationship that she had, and she was physically affectionate, always
- 17:03Speaker 1: reaching for a hug or holding a friend's hand. And
- 17:06Speaker 1: Sonia carried a boldness that showed up in unexpected places,
- 17:10Speaker 1: even teaching one of her friends how to drive. So
- 17:13Speaker 1: both Christy and Sonia lived in the apartment together on
- 17:16Speaker 1: the southwest side of Gainesville, and they were just settling
- 17:19Speaker 1: into their first days of the semester when Rolling chose
- 17:22Speaker 1: their home, and on August twenty fourth, nineteen ninety Rolling
- 17:26Speaker 1: would enter their apartment and kill both of them, and
- 17:30Speaker 1: their bodies weren't discovered until Sunday, August twenty six, roughly
- 17:34Speaker 1: forty eight to seventy two, hours after they had passed away.
- 17:38Speaker 1: And Christie's mother and father called multiple times as the
- 17:41Speaker 1: first day of classes approached, and their daughter just never
- 17:44Speaker 1: picked up, and when they couldn't get through, they called
- 17:47Speaker 1: the police and asked them to check on her, and
- 17:50Speaker 1: officers opened the door and found her body in the
- 17:52Speaker 1: living room, and Sonya would be upstairs in a bedroom
- 17:55Speaker 1: on the second floor, and one of them was unclothed
- 17:58Speaker 1: while the other was partly cloth and Lieutenant Sadie Darnell,
- 18:01Speaker 1: a Gainsville police spokesperson, confirmed those details and the bodies
- 18:06Speaker 1: had also been posed and both victims showed signs of mutilation,
- 18:11Speaker 1: and Danny was still not a suspect at this point.
- 18:15Speaker 1: And then there was Krista Lee Hoyt, and she was
- 18:18Speaker 1: eighteen years old and from Gainesville, and her nickname was Glowworm,
- 18:22Speaker 1: which stuck with her because of her warm spirit, because
- 18:25Speaker 1: she just seemed to draw people towards her, and those
- 18:28Speaker 1: in her orbit appeared to remain close. And Christa's hobbies
- 18:31Speaker 1: included cooking, camping, swimming, and racquetball. And a scholarship covered
- 18:36Speaker 1: her tuition at Santa Fe Community College, and she held
- 18:39Speaker 1: a job as a records clerk at the Alachua County
- 18:42Speaker 1: Sheriff's office because she actually wanted to work crime scenes
- 18:45Speaker 1: for a living, and she took her future very seriously
- 18:48Speaker 1: and was meticulous with her grades, and after exams she
- 18:52Speaker 1: convinced herself she had bombed, sometimes crying over it, only
- 18:56Speaker 1: to find out later that she had done almost better.
- 18:59Speaker 1: Than everyone else. But on Sunday, August twenty six, the
- 19:02Speaker 1: same day Christi and Sonia were found, Christa didn't show
- 19:06Speaker 1: up for her shift at the Sheriff's office and deputies
- 19:09Speaker 1: went to check on her because that was not like
- 19:11Speaker 1: her at all, not to show up, and unfortunately, they
- 19:14Speaker 1: would find her body inside her apartment in southwest Gainsville,
- 19:18Speaker 1: roughly two miles from the complex where the first two
- 19:21Speaker 1: victims had been discovered, and the discovery came about eight
- 19:25Speaker 1: hours after the first and Lieutenant Spencer Man told the
- 19:28Speaker 1: press that Christa's body showed signs of trauma, but he
- 19:31Speaker 1: would not go into detail, and the full extent of
- 19:34Speaker 1: what was done to her included a STA wound in
- 19:38Speaker 1: the back assault dition an additional mutilation, and the connection
- 19:44Speaker 1: between the scenes was becoming impossible to ignore, and according
- 19:48Speaker 1: to Gainesville's son, what tied the two crime scenes together
- 19:52Speaker 1: was the way the victim's bodies had been mutilated. Now
- 19:55Speaker 1: by the end of August, the city understood what it
- 19:58Speaker 1: was dealing with, and Gainesville Police Chief Wayland Clifton addressed
- 20:01Speaker 1: the press directly saying, quote, the two crimes could have
- 20:04Speaker 1: been done by the same individual. The method of operation
- 20:07Speaker 1: in these cases are similar, and State University System Chancellor
- 20:12Speaker 1: Charles Reid when further saying, quote, it looks like it's
- 20:15Speaker 1: part of a serial killer. It's a community problem. It's
- 20:18Speaker 1: not just a university problem, unquote. And Governor Bob Martinez
- 20:23Speaker 1: cautioned young people against staying alone. And the FBI was
- 20:26Speaker 1: already working alongside local investigators, and Martinez had sent the
- 20:30Speaker 1: state police mobile crime lab to the city and at
- 20:33Speaker 1: the crime scenes, investigators recovered biological evidence left behind by
- 20:37Speaker 1: the killer, including Seaman and Saliva, and students on campus
- 20:42Speaker 1: couldn't help making a connection to a name Florida knew
- 20:45Speaker 1: all too well, and that was Ted Bundy, because Ted
- 20:48Speaker 1: Bundy had been executed just a few months earlier at
- 20:51Speaker 1: this point, on January twenty fourth, nineteen eighty nine, Jana Walters,
- 20:56Speaker 1: an eighteen year old freshman from Longwood, Florida, spoke for
- 20:59Speaker 1: a lot of the saying, quote, that's what we're all saying.
- 21:02Speaker 1: It's another Ted Bundy on the loose, some sicko. It's
- 21:05Speaker 1: frightening really unquote. And parents across the state flooded the
- 21:09Speaker 1: university in local police with phone calls, and university President
- 21:14Speaker 1: John Lombardi and his administration fielded calls all day trying
- 21:18Speaker 1: to convince parents their children were safe, which no, they're not.
- 21:24Speaker 1: What are you saying? There's a literal serial killer on
- 21:27Speaker 1: the loose. But because most incoming students still didn't have
- 21:31Speaker 1: working phone lines, the university opened a free phone bank
- 21:34Speaker 1: and urged everyone to remain on campus where they could
- 21:37Speaker 1: be reached. So three young women were dead in the
- 21:40Speaker 1: same neighborhood within forty eight hours, and hundreds of students
- 21:44Speaker 1: packed up and left Gainesville entirely. Don't blame them. And
- 21:48Speaker 1: the ones who remained bunched together in large groups at night,
- 21:51Speaker 1: and more than a few kept baseball bats with an
- 21:53Speaker 1: arm's reach while they tried to sleep. And Menuel to
- 21:56Speaker 1: Boada had spent most of his life pushing through things
- 21:59Speaker 1: that would have stopped many people. He lost his father
- 22:02Speaker 1: as a teenager, but he kept going and his grades dipped,
- 22:06Speaker 1: but then he brought him back up and he graduated
- 22:08Speaker 1: with honors from high school, where he played football and
- 22:11Speaker 1: wanted to be an architect. And Tracy Paulus was twenty
- 22:15Speaker 1: three and had enrolled again at the University of Florida,
- 22:17Speaker 1: picking up the degree she had left unfinished and she
- 22:21Speaker 1: wanted to become a lawyer, and she'd been salutatorian and
- 22:23Speaker 1: homecoming queen at her high school, graduating in nineteen eighty four,
- 22:27Speaker 1: and friends and family described her as smart, beautiful, and
- 22:31Speaker 1: very well spoken. And Tracy's older sister, Laurie Lay, was
- 22:34Speaker 1: two years ahead of her and the two of them
- 22:37Speaker 1: had a special bond, and before Tracy left for Gainesville,
- 22:40Speaker 1: Laurie called her, quote, Trace, I had this feeling You're
- 22:44Speaker 1: going to go to Gainesville and I'm not going to
- 22:46Speaker 1: see you again unquote, and Tracy responded, quote, what why
- 22:51Speaker 1: do you say stuff like that to me? You're freaking
- 22:53Speaker 1: me out. Stop. I'm going to be fine unquote. So
- 22:56Speaker 1: Manuel and Tracy had gone to the same high school
- 22:59Speaker 1: in Miami, now splitting an apartment at the Gatorwood complex
- 23:02Speaker 1: in Gainesville, and on August twenty eighth, nineteen ninety two,
- 23:06Speaker 1: days after the first three bodies were found, their bodies
- 23:10Speaker 1: were discovered inside that apartment. So investigators established a command
- 23:14Speaker 1: post in the gap between Gaiorwood and the location where
- 23:17Speaker 1: Christa's body had been discovered, roughly two miles apart, and officially,
- 23:22Speaker 1: police would not confirm a link to the three earlier victims,
- 23:26Speaker 1: though they acknowledged they were treating the two new deaths
- 23:29Speaker 1: as a probable double homicide. And Manuel was the only
- 23:32Speaker 1: male victim across the five killings, and because of that,
- 23:36Speaker 1: it's possible that Rolling hadn't come for him, but he
- 23:39Speaker 1: was in the apartment when Rolling forced his way inside,
- 23:42Speaker 1: and Rolling would attack Manuel when he was in bed,
- 23:46Speaker 1: but Manuel would put up a fight, but unfortunately he
- 23:49Speaker 1: would succumb to multiple wounds. And then during that attack,
- 23:53Speaker 1: Tracy would hear the commotion go see what was going on,
- 23:56Speaker 1: and she would see Manuel either dying or dead on
- 24:00Speaker 1: the floor, so she would run back to her room
- 24:02Speaker 1: and barricade the door, but unfortunately Rolling would get in
- 24:06Speaker 1: and that is where he would do the same to
- 24:08Speaker 1: her and also assault her. And after investigators discovered their bodies,
- 24:13Speaker 1: they would contact the family, specifically Laurie, and Laurie was
- 24:18Speaker 1: with her husband when she found out and they booked
- 24:20Speaker 1: a flight home to Miami immediately, and at the family
- 24:24Speaker 1: home afterward, Tracy's family and friends gathered and Laurie noticed
- 24:28Speaker 1: that every young man who walked through the door had
- 24:30Speaker 1: been in love with Tracy at some point, saying quote
- 24:34Speaker 1: either when we were seven, eight, twelve, fifteen, twenty, whatever
- 24:37Speaker 1: it was, and I got a nice interior chuckle about that,
- 24:40Speaker 1: because that's who she was unquote. So five students were
- 24:45Speaker 1: dead in four days. A city of college kids had
- 24:48Speaker 1: become the most frightened place in Florida. So the investigation
- 24:52Speaker 1: stretch beyond Gainesville Police and the Elichow County Sheriff's office,
- 24:57Speaker 1: drawing agents from law enforcement agency's statewide, and one of
- 25:00Speaker 1: them was Dawn Mainz, a retired Florida Department of Law
- 25:04Speaker 1: Enforcement or FDL investigator who had graduated from the University
- 25:09Speaker 1: of Florida in nineteen seventy three. And the case drew
- 25:12Speaker 1: national media coverage and generated a staggering paper trail, and
- 25:16Speaker 1: by the time the investigation wound down, the task force
- 25:19Speaker 1: had produced nearly seven thousand reports totally roughly one hundred
- 25:23Speaker 1: thousand pages, and investigators noted a pattern across all three
- 25:27Speaker 1: crime scenes. The killer had entered through back doors, and
- 25:31Speaker 1: every home sat near a wooded area that provided natural cover.
- 25:35Speaker 1: And Mainz would describe the final specifics saying, quote, this
- 25:38Speaker 1: killer had a style about him. He would draw the
- 25:41Speaker 1: victims to the edge of the bed and then leave
- 25:44Speaker 1: them in a spread equal position as their final resting place. Unquote,
- 25:48Speaker 1: just an absolute monster, like as if literally murdering someone
- 25:54Speaker 1: as horrible enough, you have to desecrate their body by
- 25:59Speaker 1: putting them in the position I just you know, deepest
- 26:01Speaker 1: hole in the ground, bury him, you know. But in
- 26:05Speaker 1: the immediate aftermath, investigators didn't have a profile that pointed
- 26:08Speaker 1: anywhere really useful, but what they had instead were tips,
- 26:12Speaker 1: and the tips pointed to someone named Edward Humphrey. Now,
- 26:16Speaker 1: Humphrey was a University of Florida student in his late teens,
- 26:20Speaker 1: so a car accident had left visible scars on his face,
- 26:24Speaker 1: and he carried knives on him, and he had stopped
- 26:26Speaker 1: taking medication prescribed for a mental health disorder, and several
- 26:30Speaker 1: tipsters flagged him by name shortly after the murders, and
- 26:34Speaker 1: within days of the killings, Humphrey was behind bars on
- 26:37Speaker 1: a million dollar bond, just off of tips because they
- 26:41Speaker 1: don't have any proof that he's actually been to these
- 26:43Speaker 1: places or done anything, and a search of his home
- 26:45Speaker 1: turned up magazines about knives, guns and girls, but the
- 26:49Speaker 1: physical evidence seemed to engine his direction without ever arriving,
- 26:53Speaker 1: and Mains explained the problem, saying, quote, we have a
- 26:56Speaker 1: lot of physical evidence that, according to our technology at
- 26:59Speaker 1: the time, placed Ed at some of the scenes, some fiber,
- 27:03Speaker 1: some hares. They couldn't say definitively it was Ed's hair,
- 27:07Speaker 1: but they couldn't say it wasn't so circumstantial. But seaman
- 27:11Speaker 1: recovered at all three Gainesville crime scenes revealed the killer
- 27:14Speaker 1: had type B blood and Humphrey's blood was Type A.
- 27:19Speaker 1: News outlets were already telling the public that the prime
- 27:22Speaker 1: suspect was locked up, but that was not the case,
- 27:26Speaker 1: and Humphrey had also been arrested for assaulting his grandmother,
- 27:29Speaker 1: which only deepened public suspicion, despite him having a completely
- 27:33Speaker 1: different blood type, and the ordeal consumed his life and
- 27:36Speaker 1: his families, and his brother, George told the New York Times, quote,
- 27:40Speaker 1: my brother wasn't well off mentally to begin with, and
- 27:43Speaker 1: this has rattled him to his foundations unquote. And Humphrey
- 27:47Speaker 1: was eventually released from jail ten months after the grandmother assault,
- 27:51Speaker 1: and his emotional instability and record of violent outbursts had
- 27:55Speaker 1: made him look like a suspect, but the truth was
- 27:57Speaker 1: simpler wrong placed at the long time, and State Attorney
- 28:02Speaker 1: Rod Smith acknowledged what happened, saying, quote, it was the
- 28:05Speaker 1: desperation of the time and the need to get that guy.
- 28:08Speaker 1: We made a mistake unquote. So on September seventh, nineteen
- 28:12Speaker 1: ninety ten, days after the last bodies were discovered, Rolling
- 28:16Speaker 1: walked into a Wing Dixie supermarket in Ocala, Florida, with
- 28:19Speaker 1: a pistol, and a witness told the Acellistar banner. He shouted, quote,
- 28:24Speaker 1: this is a robbery, get your money out, unquote, and
- 28:27Speaker 1: officers arrived fast and caught Rolling after a short pursuit
- 28:31Speaker 1: and arresting. Officer Ken Rain remembered Rolling's reactions, saying, quote, unquote, boy,
- 28:36Speaker 1: you guys are good now. Ocana sits in Marion County,
- 28:39Speaker 1: about forty miles south of Gainesville, a different jurisdiction that
- 28:43Speaker 1: had no reason to make a connection between a supermarket
- 28:46Speaker 1: hold up and the serial murder case in Alachua County.
- 28:50Speaker 1: So Rolling was booked into Marion County jail on armed
- 28:53Speaker 1: robbery charges, and he would later be convicted on a
- 28:56Speaker 1: separate federal bank robbery charge and transferred to Florida a prison.
- 29:00Speaker 1: So the man that investigators across the stage were hunting
- 29:04Speaker 1: was already now behind bars, and nobody knew it. So
- 29:09Speaker 1: in August nineteen ninety, a woman named Cindy Jarusich, going
- 29:12Speaker 1: by Cindy Dobbin at the time, caught a news broadcast
- 29:16Speaker 1: about the Gainesville killings while driving through the Florida Panhandle,
- 29:19Speaker 1: and one name hit her the moment she heard the report,
- 29:23Speaker 1: Danny Rolling. Now Danny was someone she knew from her
- 29:26Speaker 1: church back in Louisiana, and Rolling had once told Cindy
- 29:30Speaker 1: and her family something she hadn't forgotten, quote one day,
- 29:34Speaker 1: I'm going to leave this town and I'm going to
- 29:36Speaker 1: go where the girls are beautiful and I can just
- 29:38Speaker 1: lay in the sun and watch beautiful women all day unquote.
- 29:42Speaker 1: And her then husband, Stephen Dobbin, had told her something worse.
- 29:46Speaker 1: Rolling had confided in Dobbin that he had a problem,
- 29:50Speaker 1: and when Cindy asked what kind of problem, Dobbin answered,
- 29:53Speaker 1: quote unquote, he likes to stick knives into people. And
- 29:57Speaker 1: at first she tried to dismiss the can, but the
- 30:01Speaker 1: Shreveport triple homicide from November nineteen eighty nine and what
- 30:04Speaker 1: was happening in Gainesville looked too much alike, and Cindy
- 30:08Speaker 1: could not shake the feeling so in November of nineteen ninety,
- 30:11Speaker 1: she picked up the phone and called crime stopper saying, quote,
- 30:15Speaker 1: I think there's one guy y'all need to investigate, Danny
- 30:18Speaker 1: Rowling unquote, and the call cracked the case wide open.
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- 31:58Speaker 1: back to it. So FDL investigator Don Maines traveled to
- 32:01Speaker 1: Shreveport and examined the evidence from the Grisom murders, and
- 32:05Speaker 1: the way Julie Grissom's body had been arranged matched what
- 32:08Speaker 1: investigators had seen at several of the Gainesville crime scenes
- 32:12Speaker 1: and tape residue marked her skin and someone had wiped
- 32:14Speaker 1: her body down with vinegar, a detail that was similar
- 32:17Speaker 1: to soap that had been found on the Florida victims.
- 32:20Speaker 1: And when the Shreveport perpetrator's body fluids came back as
- 32:24Speaker 1: type B blood, it lined up with all three Gainesville
- 32:27Speaker 1: crime scenes, and Mainz called it a revelation, and investigators
- 32:32Speaker 1: confirmed that Rolling himself also carried type B blood, linking
- 32:36Speaker 1: two crime sprees across two states to a single suspect.
- 32:40Speaker 1: And meanwhile, a separate thread of evidence had been sitting
- 32:42Speaker 1: in storage since August and the same day investigators discovered
- 32:46Speaker 1: Christa's body, a bank was robbed about a half a
- 32:49Speaker 1: mile from her apartment, and one of the tellers managed
- 32:52Speaker 1: to get a red die pack into the money before
- 32:54Speaker 1: it left the counter. Later that evening, an officer spotted
- 32:57Speaker 1: a figure disappearing into a nearby tree line and follow
- 33:00Speaker 1: the trail to a campsite, and whoever had been there
- 33:03Speaker 1: was now gone, but the campsite was not empty and
- 33:06Speaker 1: left behind where a screwdriver, the die marked money bag,
- 33:10Speaker 1: and a gun and a cassette player with a tape
- 33:13Speaker 1: still inside it. And at the time no one connected
- 33:16Speaker 1: the robbery to the murders, and the presence of a
- 33:19Speaker 1: firearm at the campsite seemed to rule out a connection
- 33:22Speaker 1: since no gun had been used in the student murders,
- 33:25Speaker 1: and the tape sat in an evidence locker for months unplayed,
- 33:30Speaker 1: which is crazy to me, and Rolling's record of armed
- 33:33Speaker 1: robbery convictions changed the picture, and investigators went back and
- 33:37Speaker 1: looked at the bank job from the day Christa's body
- 33:39Speaker 1: was found with fresh eyes, and they pulled the cassette
- 33:42Speaker 1: player from storage and finally pressed play. Now on the tape,
- 33:47Speaker 1: a man talked and sang, and in one of those
- 33:50Speaker 1: songs you could hear quote mystery rider, what's your name?
- 33:55Speaker 1: You're a killer, a drifter gone insane unquote. Between songs,
- 33:59Speaker 1: he spoke to family members, circling back to how his
- 34:02Speaker 1: life had gone off course, and according to state Attorney Smith,
- 34:06Speaker 1: Rolling also went into detail about the best method for
- 34:10Speaker 1: killing a deer, and somewhere on the tape, the voice
- 34:13Speaker 1: identified itself by name Danny Harold Rolling, and Detective Lagrain
- 34:18Speaker 1: Hewitt remembered the moment, saying, quote that was exciting. It
- 34:22Speaker 1: didn't matter what the lyrics were or what he was saying.
- 34:24Speaker 1: At that point, unquote, and Maines saw it differently, saying, quote,
- 34:28Speaker 1: if we had played the tape before, we would have
- 34:30Speaker 1: had this guy three months ago. But for some reason, somehow,
- 34:33Speaker 1: that tape escaped us, and I'll freely admit it. And
- 34:38Speaker 1: DNA evidence gave investigators what they needed, and in May
- 34:41Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, Rolling was publicly identified as the prime
- 34:45Speaker 1: suspect in the Gainesville murders, and the formal charge came
- 34:49Speaker 1: six months later, five counts of first degree murder. An
- 34:53Speaker 1: inside Florida State Prison, a Rolling found an unlikely ally
- 34:57Speaker 1: in Bobby Lewis, a death row inmate. Now Lewis told
- 35:00Speaker 1: authorities that Rolling had walked him through the killings in
- 35:03Speaker 1: detail and said he wanted to come clean, and Lewis
- 35:07Speaker 1: had his own reasons for cooperating with them because he
- 35:09Speaker 1: was serving a life sentence for killing a drug dealer
- 35:11Speaker 1: in Jacksonville in the nineteen seventies and was looking for
- 35:14Speaker 1: a reduction and what Lewis put down on paper filled
- 35:18Speaker 1: five pages of specifics about the murders, and FDLI investigator
- 35:22Speaker 1: Hewitt said the letter contained details only the killer could
- 35:26Speaker 1: have known, and investigators arranged to sit down, but Rolling
- 35:29Speaker 1: had a condition he would only do it if Lewis
- 35:32Speaker 1: sat in the room and did the talking for him.
- 35:35Speaker 1: So Rolling leaned on Lewis in a way that went
- 35:38Speaker 1: beyond the interviews. He became very codependent with him, and
- 35:42Speaker 1: he said he needed Bobby's support and asked not to
- 35:46Speaker 1: be separated from him. So the arrangement proceeded, and investigators
- 35:49Speaker 1: posed the questions and Lewis gave the answers, and Rolling
- 35:53Speaker 1: confirmed or denied each one. It was like a translator
- 35:57Speaker 1: who didn't need to be Translator's a really weird situation.
- 36:00Speaker 1: Lewis became something between a confidant and a confessor, the
- 36:04Speaker 1: one person Rolling trusted enough to speak through. And the
- 36:07Speaker 1: affirmations Rolling gave were captured on recording, and as Hewitt
- 36:11Speaker 1: put it, quote, it was important because he was participating
- 36:14Speaker 1: in the confession unquote. And the session ended up producing
- 36:18Speaker 1: details that hadn't surfaced before, and one of them was
- 36:20Speaker 1: after killing Christa Hoyt, Rolling went back he was worried
- 36:25Speaker 1: his wallet might still be inside her apartment. The decapitation
- 36:29Speaker 1: happened on that return trip and was not part of
- 36:32Speaker 1: the original attack, and that's when they learned what happened
- 36:35Speaker 1: inside Tracy and Manuel's apartment, that Tracy heard the struggle
- 36:38Speaker 1: in Manuel's room and came to see what was happening,
- 36:41Speaker 1: but the sight of Rolling sent her running back toward
- 36:43Speaker 1: her room, and she got the door shut and tried
- 36:46Speaker 1: to lock it, but Rolling forced his way through. And
- 36:48Speaker 1: ABC News reporter John don Van reported that Tracy confronted
- 36:52Speaker 1: Rolling directly, and she asked him, quote, You're the one,
- 36:56Speaker 1: aren't you, unquote, and Rolling replied quote unquote, yeah, I'm
- 37:00Speaker 1: the one, and Lewis, after hearing everything Rolling described, said, quote,
- 37:05Speaker 1: I've never been told nothing in reality. I've never read
- 37:08Speaker 1: nothing in a Stephen King novel that comes close to
- 37:12Speaker 1: what the reality is of what this man did unquote.
- 37:16Speaker 1: And despite confessing to the five Gainesville murders, Rolling refused
- 37:20Speaker 1: to admit to the Shreveport killings. During the interviews, and
- 37:23Speaker 1: as the questions continued, Rolling introduced a different explanation for
- 37:27Speaker 1: what he'd done, and he claimed he had quote unquote,
- 37:31Speaker 1: dealt with different personalities all my life and described two
- 37:35Speaker 1: alter egos, and he called the first one you nad
- 37:39Speaker 1: his own name reversed genius and described it as a
- 37:43Speaker 1: bad presence, but not an evil one. I beg to differ,
- 37:46Speaker 1: and the other he called Gemini, which Rolling cast as
- 37:50Speaker 1: the truly dangerous one and the personality he held responsible
- 37:54Speaker 1: for the murders. Isn't that convenient for Rolling? Isn't it
- 38:00Speaker 1: fell bullshit? To be honest? And Rolling had lifted that
- 38:03Speaker 1: name from The Exorcist IIE, a movie he walked shortly
- 38:05Speaker 1: before the murders, and in the film, an evil spirit
- 38:08Speaker 1: named Gemini is responsible for a string of killings. In
- 38:12Speaker 1: State Attorney Rod Smith had no patience for the explanation luckily, saying, quote,
- 38:17Speaker 1: Danny committed these crimes for one reason only, he loved it.
- 38:22Speaker 1: And Rolling also told investigators something else. He had aspired
- 38:25Speaker 1: to be a superstar in the mold of Ted Bundy,
- 38:29Speaker 1: and in an interview with the Gainesville Son, Smith said
- 38:32Speaker 1: Rolling fell short of that goal, crediting a deliberate effort
- 38:36Speaker 1: by authorities to center the victims and their families instead
- 38:40Speaker 1: of their killer. And clinical psychologist Harry Kropp first evaluated
- 38:44Speaker 1: Rolling in January nineteen ninety one after the Okalla armed
- 38:48Speaker 1: robbery arrest, and Crop's evaluation uncovered what he called end
- 38:52Speaker 1: quote incredible amount of underlying anger unquote, along with a
- 38:56Speaker 1: borderline personality disorder, and the symptoms included violent mood swings,
- 39:01Speaker 1: impulsive and self destructive behavior, narcissism, and anti social feelings. Quote,
- 39:07Speaker 1: but he rejected Rolling's claim of quote unquote multiple personalities,
- 39:11Speaker 1: saying quote, I didn't buy it. This was Danny looking
- 39:14Speaker 1: for something that would make what happened more dramatic and
- 39:17Speaker 1: minimize his own culpability by saying the devil made me
- 39:21Speaker 1: do it unquote. So by November nineteen ninety one, Rolling
- 39:25Speaker 1: had been formally charged with five counts of first degree
- 39:27Speaker 1: murder for the Gainesville killings, and he pleaded not guilty
- 39:31Speaker 1: to all of them. And the prosecution was led by
- 39:33Speaker 1: state Attorney Rod Smith, and Rolling's lead defense attorney was
- 39:37Speaker 1: Rick Parker, and Smith's case rested on the evidence. The
- 39:40Speaker 1: investigation had already assembled the DNA, the recorded confessions, and
- 39:44Speaker 1: the forensic trail from campsite to crime scenes, and the
- 39:48Speaker 1: defense couldn't argue the facts away, so Parker built his
- 39:51Speaker 1: strategy around the penalty and the Supreme courts nineteen eighty
- 39:55Speaker 1: two decision in Ettings versus Oklahoma required capital juries to
- 39:59Speaker 1: cons or a dependent's history of abuse and deprivation when
- 40:03Speaker 1: deciding between life and death, regardless of whether that history
- 40:07Speaker 1: excused the crime, and Parker planned to put Rolling's childhood
- 40:11Speaker 1: on trial instead. In my opinion, the child innocent, you know,
- 40:16Speaker 1: the child pretty innocent in this case. The adult fully
- 40:21Speaker 1: culpable put him in a hole. I think personally, I
- 40:24Speaker 1: don't know now. Parker's mitigation case would lay bare the
- 40:27Speaker 1: Rolling household from the beginning, beatings that started so young,
- 40:31Speaker 1: a father who weaponized his badge against his own family,
- 40:34Speaker 1: a mental illness that went unaddressed because James Rolling blocked
- 40:38Speaker 1: every attempt to get his son evaluated fair, and the
- 40:41Speaker 1: defense would present Rolling's psychological profile as evidence of damage,
- 40:45Speaker 1: not as an excuse. Definitely damage damage, for sure. I
- 40:50Speaker 1: think there's a little bit of nature and nurture in
- 40:52Speaker 1: there for sure. However, while awaiting trial, Rolling's admission went
- 40:57Speaker 1: beyond Gainesville, and he had also confessed to killing three
- 41:00Speaker 1: members of the Grisom family in Shreveport, Louisiana in November
- 41:05Speaker 1: of nineteen eighty nine, which put his confirmed total at
- 41:08Speaker 1: now eight victims, and no separate charges were filed in
- 41:11Speaker 1: Louisiana for those killings, and he would face justice only
- 41:15Speaker 1: in Florida. So Rolling's trial opened in February of nineteen
- 41:18Speaker 1: ninety four, more than three years after the murders, and
- 41:22Speaker 1: on February fifteenth, the day set for trial to begin,
- 41:25Speaker 1: Rolling stood up and changed his plate, and he actually
- 41:29Speaker 1: entered guilty pleas on every murder count and on the
- 41:32Speaker 1: additional charges connected to them. And he was thirty nine
- 41:35Speaker 1: years old at the time, and his confession had already
- 41:38Speaker 1: been specific, and Rolling had shown investigators where he buried
- 41:42Speaker 1: the murder weapon near his campsite, along with jewelry he
- 41:45Speaker 1: had actually taken from the victims and the tools he
- 41:48Speaker 1: used to pry open their doors. Because Rolling pleaded guilty
- 41:52Speaker 1: before any jury were seated, the question of whether he
- 41:55Speaker 1: committed the murders was settled on the spot, so testimony
- 41:58Speaker 1: about the crimes, the crimes, photographs, and physical evidence never
- 42:02Speaker 1: reached the jury. So Rolling's plea eliminated the need for
- 42:06Speaker 1: a guilt phase and pushed the trial straight into penalty proceedings,
- 42:10Speaker 1: and prosecutors sought the death penalty on all five counts.
- 42:13Speaker 1: Five young people had been murdered mutilated in their homes
- 42:19Speaker 1: across four days, and the crime scenes showed pre planning,
- 42:23Speaker 1: control and cruelty that went far beyond what was necessary
- 42:28Speaker 1: to kill, and Rolling had shown no remorse in any
- 42:31Speaker 1: of his recorded statements. And as we know, the defense
- 42:34Speaker 1: countered with Rolling's life and the abuse that followed. And
- 42:37Speaker 1: the argument wasn't that Rolling was innocent, just that the
- 42:40Speaker 1: jury should understand what built him before deciding whether the
- 42:44Speaker 1: state should kill him. But Rolling would address the court
- 42:48Speaker 1: himself saying quote, I've been running from first one thing
- 42:52Speaker 1: and then another all my life, whether from problems at home,
- 42:55Speaker 1: or with the law, or from myself unquote. And Rolling
- 42:59Speaker 1: cast an himself as a victim of violence, not as
- 43:02Speaker 1: someone who had chosen it. And still that distinction carried
- 43:06Speaker 1: no weight with the court when it came to a
- 43:08Speaker 1: sign responsibility, and on April twentieth, nineteen ninety four, Rolling
- 43:12Speaker 1: was formally sentenced to death on all five counts of
- 43:15Speaker 1: first degree murder. The jury took about six hours over
- 43:18Speaker 1: two days to reach its recommendation, juriors deciding twelve to
- 43:21Speaker 1: nothing that Danny Rowling should die in the electric chair.
- 43:24Speaker 1: And Anne garn Christa Hoyt's mother, attended every session of
- 43:28Speaker 1: the trial, and she said she did it to honor
- 43:31Speaker 1: the victim's courage. And after the jury's recommendation. She told
- 43:34Speaker 1: reporters quote unquote, we got what we prayed for. It's
- 43:37Speaker 1: partial relief. And Anne Paula's Tracy Pollis's cousin, described the
- 43:42Speaker 1: moment the recommendation came down, saying, quote, when I heard
- 43:45Speaker 1: the verdict, I just started crying that a big smile
- 43:48Speaker 1: came on my face unquote. And victim advocates Laura Nutson
- 43:52Speaker 1: said the families understood that no recommendation could return what
- 43:55Speaker 1: they had lost, but what it did give them was
- 43:58Speaker 1: a certainty that Rolling wouldn't take another life. So Rolling
- 44:01Speaker 1: arrived on Florida's death row already carrying a reputation that
- 44:05Speaker 1: preceded him because he had confessed and pleaded guilty and
- 44:08Speaker 1: had been sentenced to die. And this caught the eye
- 44:11Speaker 1: of Sondra London, a freelance journalist best known for writing
- 44:14Speaker 1: a book about G. J. Shaeffer, her ex boyfriend and
- 44:18Speaker 1: a suspected serial killer. So London began correspondence with Rolling,
- 44:21Speaker 1: and the relationship quickly turned into something else entirely, and
- 44:24Speaker 1: she described meeting him in prison saying, quote, standing before
- 44:28Speaker 1: my hungry eyes was one gorgeous hunk of a man. Unquote.
- 44:32Speaker 1: Clearly she has a type. That's all I'm going to say.
- 44:35Speaker 1: Rolling described the relationship his own way, saying quote deep
- 44:39Speaker 1: as the Amazon River and just as wild unquote disgusting.
- 44:43Speaker 1: I hate this grouse. So it started as those letters
- 44:47Speaker 1: became an engagement and a jointly written book, The Making
- 44:51Speaker 1: of a Serial Killer, The Real Story of the Gainesville Murders,
- 44:55Speaker 1: and prosecutors moved to block the profits, and a state
- 44:58Speaker 1: used the Son of Sam law, designed to stop convicted
- 45:01Speaker 1: criminals from cashing in on their own stories, to go
- 45:04Speaker 1: after them, which thank god that exists. Also, I need
- 45:06Speaker 1: to do a video on the Son of Sam, because
- 45:07Speaker 1: that one is freaking crazy. And a judge sided with
- 45:11Speaker 1: the prosecutors in nineteen ninety eight, ordering twenty thousand dollars
- 45:14Speaker 1: in profits tied to London's Gainsville Ripper publication turned over
- 45:18Speaker 1: to the state, and Rolling spent years writing from his
- 45:21Speaker 1: cell and not just to London, though in one letter
- 45:24Speaker 1: went to the Associated Press in two thousand, running seventeen
- 45:27Speaker 1: pages in which Rolling argued that a quote mangy dog
- 45:31Speaker 1: gets more consideration unquote than the prisoners looks like they're
- 45:35Speaker 1: doing their job right over at Florida State. Am I right?
- 45:38Speaker 1: And then two years later he wrote again saying, quote,
- 45:41Speaker 1: I assure you I am not a salivating ogre granted
- 45:44Speaker 1: times past. The dark era of long ago Doctor Jekyl
- 45:48Speaker 1: and mister Hyde did strike up and down the corridors
- 45:52Speaker 1: of insanity. Unquote, I don't care, shut up, shut up.
- 45:57Speaker 1: Take the pen out of this guy's hand. And he
- 45:58Speaker 1: eventually told these associated press quote I do deserve to die,
- 46:03Speaker 1: but do I want to die? No? I want to live.
- 46:06Speaker 1: Life is difficult to give up on. Quote you should
- 46:09Speaker 1: have thought of that before you took the life of
- 46:12Speaker 1: eight innocent, beautiful human beings. You piece of shit. And
- 46:17Speaker 1: his legal team filed appeals challenging the death sentence, and
- 46:20Speaker 1: his central argument was that Lewis had effectively been working
- 46:23Speaker 1: for the prosecution, using their friendship to extract statements that
- 46:27Speaker 1: should never have been admitted as evidence, and the courts
- 46:30Speaker 1: rejected every challenge, luckily so. On October twenty fifth, two
- 46:34Speaker 1: thousand and six, more than sixteen years after the killings
- 46:37Speaker 1: that had empty Gainesville of its sense of safety, Rolling
- 46:41Speaker 1: faced his death by lethal injection at Florida State Prison,
- 46:45Speaker 1: and at the time he was fifty two years old,
- 46:48Speaker 1: and in his final hours he was calm and cooperative,
- 46:51Speaker 1: and his brother Kevin visited with a pastor and the
- 46:54Speaker 1: three of them sat together for several hours, and Kevin
- 46:57Speaker 1: was the same younger brother who had grown up under
- 46:59Speaker 1: their father fists alongside Danny and before the injection, Rolling
- 47:03Speaker 1: saying a hymn, and he was pronounced dead at six
- 47:06Speaker 1: thirteen pm Eastern time. Sixty two inmates had been executed
- 47:10Speaker 1: since Florida resumed the death penalty in nineteen seventy nine,
- 47:14Speaker 1: and Rolling was the third put to death that year,
- 47:16Speaker 1: and Christa's stepmother, Diana Hoyt, watched the execution occur and
- 47:21Speaker 1: she spoke on the execution saying, quote, this is a
- 47:24Speaker 1: tough thing, but is a necessary thing to go through.
- 47:28Speaker 1: It is very hard for us to see someone else die,
- 47:31Speaker 1: but he deserves it. And Sean Grissom's brother was also
- 47:35Speaker 1: heard from that day Becausehawn had just been eight years
- 47:38Speaker 1: old when he was killed by Rolling alongside his grandfather
- 47:42Speaker 1: and aunt in Shreveport, and he said, quote, my brother
- 47:45Speaker 1: would have been twenty five and now Danny Rolling paid
- 47:49Speaker 1: for what he did. And Rolling himself had actually released
- 47:52Speaker 1: a written statement before the execution, and it was a
- 47:55Speaker 1: confession more direct than anything he had ever offered investigators
- 47:58Speaker 1: at the time of his arrest, saying quote, I and
- 48:02Speaker 1: I alone am guilty. It was my hand that took
- 48:05Speaker 1: those precious lights out of this old dark world unquote.
- 48:10Speaker 1: It was only dark because of you, Ganny Rolling And
- 48:13Speaker 1: outside the prison, a crowd had gathered in a field,
- 48:15Speaker 1: split between those who opposed the execution and those who
- 48:19Speaker 1: supported it, and the scene was similar to the crowds
- 48:21Speaker 1: that had gathered for Ted Bundy's execution in the same
- 48:25Speaker 1: death chamber in nineteen eighty nine. And the families of
- 48:28Speaker 1: the Rollings five Gainesville victims ran a joint advertisement in
- 48:33Speaker 1: the Gainesville Sun, and it was addressed to the community
- 48:35Speaker 1: that had held them up through years of investigation, trials, appeals,
- 48:39Speaker 1: and grief, saying, quote, we hope you will remember August
- 48:43Speaker 1: nineteen ninety and the years that followed without any sense
- 48:46Speaker 1: of community shame for what has happened here. You turned
- 48:50Speaker 1: a blemish into a rose unquote. And in the months
- 48:53Speaker 1: after the murders, a memorial took shape on Southwest thirty
- 48:56Speaker 1: fourth Street in Gainesville, and in two thousand the city
- 48:59Speaker 1: added five palm trees along the street, one representing each
- 49:03Speaker 1: victim with individual name plaques, and on the nearby thirty
- 49:07Speaker 1: fourth Street wall, someone painted a mural which was a
- 49:10Speaker 1: black background covered in red hearts and the five names
- 49:13Speaker 1: written in white and the word remember. And Sadie Darnell,
- 49:17Speaker 1: who later became sheriff and has since retired, held the
- 49:20Speaker 1: role of public information officer for Gainesville Police during the killings,
- 49:23Speaker 1: and she was the person who had to face the
- 49:25Speaker 1: victim's families and deliver updates in those first terrible days,
- 49:29Speaker 1: and she reflected on what the experience had demanded of
- 49:32Speaker 1: a department that had never faced anything like it, saying, quote,
- 49:35Speaker 1: for that to happen in a medium sized community or
- 49:38Speaker 1: medium sized police department was totally unexpected. We had to
- 49:42Speaker 1: deal with it without any preparation and any sense of
- 49:45Speaker 1: having been through it before, unquote. But the killings didn't
- 49:49Speaker 1: fracture Gainesville, and instead they pulled the community together, and
- 49:54Speaker 1: neighbors started escorting each other to their cars after dark,
- 49:57Speaker 1: and porch lights stayed on through the night across the city.
- 50:00Speaker 1: And one thing Darnell pointed to was the choice by
- 50:03Speaker 1: then University of Florida President John Lembardy to keep holding
- 50:07Speaker 1: classes and playing football games in the weeks that followed,
- 50:10Speaker 1: same quote. It was a brilliant thing to do because
- 50:12Speaker 1: it started the healing process of her community. It was
- 50:15Speaker 1: a start a return to normalcy, a different normalcy, unquote.
- 50:19Speaker 1: And there was also changes that had an impact on
- 50:21Speaker 1: safety policies and how security worked at Florida colleges with
- 50:25Speaker 1: improvements to campus lighting, access controls to dorms, and expanded
- 50:29Speaker 1: security patrols. And they also had a much needed conversation
- 50:33Speaker 1: about how student housing existed outside of campus security before
- 50:37Speaker 1: nineteen ninety and institutions in Florida were influenced to look
- 50:40Speaker 1: differently at the liability and duty they have to care
- 50:44Speaker 1: for students who lived off campus. And at nineteen ninety four,
- 50:47Speaker 1: ABC News ran an episode of its documentary series Turning Point,
- 50:51Speaker 1: focused on the Gainesville Ripper case, and most people who
- 50:54Speaker 1: watched it turned it off and went about their evening,
- 50:57Speaker 1: but Kevin Williamson did not. Now. Williamson, a screenwriter, happened
- 51:01Speaker 1: to be watching it by himself while looking after someone
- 51:03Speaker 1: else's house, and part way through the broadcast, he looked
- 51:07Speaker 1: up and saw a window standing open, and he was
- 51:10Speaker 1: certain he hadn't left it that way, and he got
- 51:12Speaker 1: a friend on the phone and pulled a knife from
- 51:14Speaker 1: the kitchen and searched every room in a house for intruders,
- 51:18Speaker 1: And once the house was clear, the conversation with his
- 51:21Speaker 1: friend shifted to horror movies and they got into the
- 51:24Speaker 1: genre's unwritten rules, what separated the great horror films from
- 51:27Speaker 1: the forgettable ones, And one idea that lodged into Williamson's
- 51:32Speaker 1: head was that someone could be standing right outside your
- 51:35Speaker 1: window watching you, and you would never know it. And
- 51:39Speaker 1: by the time the call ended, the seed of a
- 51:41Speaker 1: screenplay had planted itself, and Williamson wrote a script he
- 51:45Speaker 1: originally called Woodsboro Murders, but it eventually became the movie
- 51:50Speaker 1: We All Know to be Scream, directed by Wes Craven,
- 51:54Speaker 1: which hit theaters in December of nineteen ninety six. And
- 51:57Speaker 1: the connection between Rolling and the film's killer, Ghostface, is loose,
- 52:03Speaker 1: and Scream never retells Rolling's crimes directly, but Ghostface watched
- 52:07Speaker 1: his victims before he struck, posed their bodies and turned
- 52:11Speaker 1: each murder into a spectacle, and the fictional town of
- 52:14Speaker 1: Woodsboro also erupted into the same kind of media firestorm
- 52:18Speaker 1: that had consumed Gainesville in nineteen ninety and screen became
- 52:21Speaker 1: one of the most successful horror films ever made and
- 52:24Speaker 1: launched a franchise that is still producing sequels three decades later.
- 52:28Speaker 1: But regardless of the film's success and the story of
- 52:31Speaker 1: the man who inspired it, we must properly remember the
- 52:35Speaker 1: victims because that is the most important part of all
- 52:39Speaker 1: of this. And the Grisom family in Louisiana were deeply
- 52:42Speaker 1: loved and any loss of a child is devastating, and
- 52:46Speaker 1: I want to remember Tom and Julie and Sean, and
- 52:49Speaker 1: the Gainesville victims had bright aspirations and futures ahead of them,
- 52:54Speaker 1: had so much more life to live. Christina Powell wants
- 52:57Speaker 1: to design affordable homes, Sonia Larson wanted to teach children,
- 53:01Speaker 1: and Krista Hoyt wanted to investigate crime scenes, and Manuel
- 53:04Speaker 1: Tabawata wanted to become an architect, and Tracy Paulis wanted
- 53:08Speaker 1: to practice law. They were seventeen, eighteen, eighteen, twenty three,
- 53:12Speaker 1: and twenty three, respectively, and five palm trees stand on
- 53:16Speaker 1: thirty fourth Street in Gainesville, one for each of them,
- 53:18Speaker 1: in a city that chose to remember them. For who
- 53:22Speaker 1: they were, and that is how I will remember them
- 53:24Speaker 1: as well what I hope you do too, And that
- 53:27Speaker 1: is where I want to leave this video. As always,
- 53:29Speaker 1: my heart goes out to the families and to the victims.
- 53:32Speaker 1: And if you guys would like me to deep dive
- 53:34Speaker 1: into any other cases, please let me know in the
- 53:36Speaker 1: comments below. I always read them. And until then, please
- 53:39Speaker 1: be safe out there and I will see your beautiful
- 53:41Speaker 1: face all right. Bye.