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Best of Chuck in the Morning 8-10 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: the Morning on your home for the Super Bowl champion
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  Speaker 2: Well, great morning to you all. Welcome into the radio
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  Speaker 2: show here on this Monday. It is Chuck and Buck
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  Speaker 2: in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
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  Speaker 2: We are set for another Monday here from the lovely
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  Speaker 2: Virginia Mason Athletics Center, another Seahawks training camp day for
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  Speaker 2: you as we get closer and closer to preseason games.
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  Speaker 2: Preseason action which starts on Thursday and for the Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: will begin on Saturday at home against Dallas Moore. On
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  Speaker 2: that coming up a little bit later on here in
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  Speaker 2: the segment when we look through head lines and tell
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  Speaker 2: you what is on tap. Good morning to you all.
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  Speaker 2: Hope you had a great weekend. Chuck Powell, Ashley Ryan
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  Speaker 2: with you as we get this Monday started a brand
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  Speaker 2: new week. We got a lot of baseball things to
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  Speaker 2: cry over. So we'll get to that here in a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. I'll just say this, it is kind of
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  Speaker 2: weird to Ashley over the course of training camp to
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  Speaker 2: sort of see how the days are getting shorter. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we actually have like artificial lights on here this morning
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  Speaker 2: to start the show at six o'clock. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: we started off when I was driving here and it
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  Speaker 2: would still be a little bit light as I was
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  Speaker 2: leaving the house to get here, and that was just
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  Speaker 2: a couple short weeks ago, and here I am this morning,
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, we're doing this by candlelight here today.
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  Speaker 3: That does seem kind of romantic, though very romantic.
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  Speaker 2: Terry, Ryan and I have got lost in your other's
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  Speaker 2: eyes this morning.
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  Speaker 4: Well that's nice.
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  Speaker 3: I like that for you guys. It's a great way
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  Speaker 3: to stay art off on Monday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they put there's a light on, which feels weird.
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  Speaker 4: That is crazy to me. Yeah, it's like it change
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  Speaker 4: is real fast.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just keep it, just keep it dark, just keep
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  Speaker 2: it dark. Like the light is reminding me. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and then there are lights on the field already, so
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  Speaker 2: the practice field, and so yeah, it's changing, it's changing,
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  Speaker 2: ye know. Things change, Ashley. If you don't change with them,
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  Speaker 2: you get left behind.
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  Speaker 4: I think I heard someone say that once. Is it
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  Speaker 4: like or that was more like life moves.
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  Speaker 2: Real fast, kind of in the same.
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  Speaker 4: Ball the ballpark, though.
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  Speaker 3: I like it and it was inspirational before, and I
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  Speaker 3: feel inspired again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. A lot of wise people, a lot of wise
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  Speaker 2: people say a lot of the same things, and they
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  Speaker 2: just say, I'm a little bit differently, man, what happened?
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  Speaker 4: Well, that makes sense. Yeah, a lot of people have
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  Speaker 4: a lot of wise thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: How was your weekend? Everything good?
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  Speaker 4: Everything was great.
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  Speaker 3: It was relaxing, it was productive, it was yeh, can't complain.
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  Speaker 4: What about yours?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, it was pretty yeah, I think so.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Friday was yeah, I'm trying to remember. Friday was kind
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  Speaker 2: of boring, Saturday was kind of alcohol y, and then
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  Speaker 2: Sunday was you don't get ready to go back to
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  Speaker 2: work kind of stuff. That's kind of the way the
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  Speaker 2: work weekend works. But here we sit on this Monday
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  Speaker 2: ready to let it rip again, and we got an
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  Speaker 2: awful lot of things here to discuss with you today,
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  Speaker 2: and it probably begins and ends with our baseball team.
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  Speaker 2: My goodness, what a what a tale of two weekends
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  Speaker 2: because certainly, and I get the frustration from a lot
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  Speaker 2: of Mariners fans, they just want the organization to deliver
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  Speaker 2: them at least a World Series participant, and certainly at
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  Speaker 2: some point a World Series champion. And when you've waited
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  Speaker 2: fifty years and you're carrying the moniker of the only
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  Speaker 2: team in the sport that has never gotten to the
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  Speaker 2: finish line of a Major League Baseball season, Yeah, there's
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  Speaker 2: this mountain of resentment that certainly has built up, even
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  Speaker 2: though you do have to admit that along the way,
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  Speaker 2: you've enjoyed some things and you've grown to love some
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  Speaker 2: things about this organization. And one of the real issues is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the promotions and the bobbleheads and the ceremonies,
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  Speaker 2: and the way too much attention paid to the mid
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  Speaker 2: nineties team with Junior and Bunior and Edgar, and they
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  Speaker 2: can't get past it, even though they never even made
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  Speaker 2: it to the World Series. It's a bone of contention
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  Speaker 2: for a lot of people out there, and I get it.
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  Speaker 2: I understand where you're coming from. That said, and I
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  Speaker 2: think Softy talked about it a lot. Last week. I
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  Speaker 2: talked about it. Ian and I talked about it here
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  Speaker 2: at our set last Friday. I mean, you can't really
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  Speaker 2: blame a personal public relations staff for stop trying to
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  Speaker 2: make their organizem look good. To stop job, yeah, to
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  Speaker 2: stop trying to get people to come into the ballpark
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  Speaker 2: even when the team is struggling. And I certainly you
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  Speaker 2: can't blame an organization. And it's fifty years of history
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  Speaker 2: and they have put together some history from putting together
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  Speaker 2: at some point in the season some type of ceremony,
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  Speaker 2: which is what occurred over the weekend. And quite frankly,
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  Speaker 2: it was spectacular.
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  Speaker 4: It did a wonderful job with it Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was almost perfect, the way that it
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  Speaker 2: was constructed, the precision with which was executed, the number
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  Speaker 2: of former players that they got to participate, the joy
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  Speaker 2: and the players that were on the field, and how
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  Speaker 2: much they certainly seem to not just enjoy it, but
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  Speaker 2: seem to love it. They Rick riz announcement that he's
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  Speaker 2: going into the Hall of Fame, and the fact that
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  Speaker 2: most of the players, it seemed, were elated for the announcer,
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  Speaker 2: the broadcaster of the team to get into the Hall
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  Speaker 2: of Fame. I mean it was amazing. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: did not grow up here. I did not have the
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  Speaker 2: fifty years that a lot of you, or if you're
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  Speaker 2: not fifty years old, you've known the Mariners your entire life.
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  Speaker 2: So I didn't have a lifetime of it or fifty
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  Speaker 2: years of it to fall back on. I certainly, as
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  Speaker 2: a baseball fan, know a lot about baseball history. I
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  Speaker 2: knew all the players that were being introduced on Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: even if I didn't watch them on a game by
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  Speaker 2: game basis like so many of you did. And so
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  Speaker 2: certainly the ceremony was just amazing. And I was even
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  Speaker 2: brought Ashley to tiers about six times. Now four of
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  Speaker 2: them were because OFZ, but I was brought to tears
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  Speaker 2: like six times, or at least at least brought to
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  Speaker 2: emotions of on kind during the ceremony. And so we
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  Speaker 2: got to first give them credit for what was pretty
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  Speaker 2: difficult circumstances. This team that was supposed to go to
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  Speaker 2: the World Series, according to a lot of different experts,
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  Speaker 2: not just me Twitter followers, not just me, but supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be really good this year even if they didn't
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  Speaker 2: go to a World Series. We weren't supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: four games under five hundred heading into the weekend this weekend,
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  Speaker 2: that's for sure. I mean they were counting on this
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  Speaker 2: team being good. That's why they scheduled it for August,
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  Speaker 2: because they weren't expecting the team to be at its
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  Speaker 2: lowest moment while they were trying to celebrate fifty years
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  Speaker 2: of Mariner's history. But if you did separate yourself from
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  Speaker 2: the way that the active team is playing and disappointing
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  Speaker 2: us with every game that they take the field, and
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  Speaker 2: could just enjoy the ceremony on Saturday, there way Actually
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  Speaker 2: you couldn't have enjoyed what you watched Saturday before the game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was awesome, and I also was
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  Speaker 3: got emotional.
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  Speaker 4: I mean just watching it.
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  Speaker 3: We sat outside and got to enjoy the one. It
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  Speaker 3: was a nice day on Saturday, so anyone at the
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  Speaker 3: ballpark was having a great you know, just the weather
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  Speaker 3: was perfect.
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  Speaker 4: And then you've got this introduction.
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  Speaker 3: And I was I found myself on the edge of
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  Speaker 3: my seat several times too, because like, when a Rod
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  Speaker 3: came out, are people gonnaoo him?
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  Speaker 4: How are they going to receive him? I was very
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  Speaker 4: curious about that.
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  Speaker 3: And then you know when they had the Big four
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  Speaker 3: walk out from center field, I mean, how could you
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  Speaker 3: not get a little emotional watching the four of them
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  Speaker 3: walk out together and then with the Rick Rizz thing.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the whole thing was so well done, and
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  Speaker 3: it is amazing to me. I understand the frustration with
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  Speaker 3: the way this team is playing.
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  Speaker 4: I get it.
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  Speaker 3: I am a lifelong Mariners fan. I am frustrated. I
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  Speaker 3: am also able to separate what happened before the game
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  Speaker 3: on Saturday with the actual on play performance, and it
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  Speaker 3: seems like a lot of people can't. Their frustration is
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  Speaker 3: just so great it takes over every aspect of Mariners baseball. Well,
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  Speaker 3: the last fifty years are still something to be celebrated.
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  Speaker 3: And does that mean that you know, we're good with
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  Speaker 3: just celebrating the last fifty years and not trying to
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  Speaker 3: accomplish more.
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  Speaker 4: No, not at all.
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  Speaker 3: I was hoping that all of it was going to
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  Speaker 3: translate to something on the field and these guys were
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  Speaker 3: going to get a kick in the butt that they needed,
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  Speaker 3: and it didn't work well.
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  Speaker 2: Even Alvin Davis, who was chosen to speak on behalf
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  Speaker 2: of the players brought this team up, tried to use
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  Speaker 2: it as a motivational tool. And that's not just a
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  Speaker 2: former Mariner. That's mister Mariner, and he has a role
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  Speaker 2: in the organization and he's with them every spring training
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  Speaker 2: and he's become a mentor and an advisor to nearly
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  Speaker 2: everyone on this roster. But he used part of his
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  Speaker 2: speech to motivate the troops. So the two do get entwined.
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  Speaker 2: There's no question about it. And I'm not sitting here
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  Speaker 2: offering any kind of criticism because, as I said, I've
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  Speaker 2: been here a fifth of the time. Some of you
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  Speaker 2: have been following this team as closely as you have,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll be honest, I got done with Friday's frustration,
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  Speaker 2: and all I really did Friday night was to make
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  Speaker 2: sure I'm in front of the television to watch the Mariners.
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  Speaker 2: That was like my motivation for the evening, And as
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  Speaker 2: soon as the game was over on another lackluster offensive performance,
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  Speaker 2: I turned it off completely, forgot about the home runner,
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  Speaker 2: talked about it all week long. You know, have two friends,
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  Speaker 2: people that I consider friends, that are involved in the
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  Speaker 2: home run derby itself, and I chose not to go.
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  Speaker 2: I chose not to go to either of the event.
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  Speaker 2: Part of it was certainly, hey, this is a lifer.
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  Speaker 2: This is your weekend, not somebody that moved here eleven
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  Speaker 2: years ago. This is your weekend. And then part of
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  Speaker 2: it also was Ashley Man this interm marriage between how
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  Speaker 2: frustrated I am with the team and having to sit
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  Speaker 2: there and watch ceremonies. I was just exhausted from it,
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  Speaker 2: and and so I didn't go at ten and then,
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  Speaker 2: believe it or not, I was so disappointed with Friday
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  Speaker 2: Night and the result of Friday Night, I just turned
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  Speaker 2: it off. I turned it to The Agency, which is
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  Speaker 2: a show that Ashley turned me on too, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna fall asleep to this and get a good
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  Speaker 2: night's sleep tonight. That's what I'm gonna do. And so
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  Speaker 2: I turned that on, got into bed, and that was
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  Speaker 2: the end of my Friday. And I didn't even remember
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  Speaker 2: until I saw your personal tweets in the morning talking
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  Speaker 2: about how great the home run derby was. But even
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  Speaker 2: that was was sensational from what I gather, I did
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  Speaker 2: not watch it, but I mean when a pitcher hits
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  Speaker 2: three home runs and Bucky starts it.
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  Speaker 4: Off, you know, yeah, it was fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And and he gets this big giant embrace from
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  Speaker 2: Buner and Griffy as he's coming off the field for
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  Speaker 2: goodness sake, because I think there was a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of it, are we gonna is anybody gonna hit a
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  Speaker 2: home run?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 2: I think there was a little bit of that, and
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  Speaker 2: for him to get it started, and so that was
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  Speaker 2: even a spectacular event. It turned out better than I think.
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  Speaker 2: I was there when the at spring training, when the
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  Speaker 2: pr staff, when the figureheads were discussing whether or not
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  Speaker 2: it was a good idea or not. Yeah, I was there,
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  Speaker 2: and whether or not they would feel they could get
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  Speaker 2: full participation, if they could get six or seven old
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  Speaker 2: timers to come back and participate. So there was some
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  Speaker 2: apprehension as to whether or not to even do it
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  Speaker 2: before the season got underway, and considering how apprehensive they
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  Speaker 2: were at the time, and then how well it turned out,
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  Speaker 2: even that was a successful event which allowed the Mariner
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  Speaker 2: fan to kind of forget about the team woes on
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  Speaker 2: a Friday night and they really enjoyed themselves Saturday, same thing,
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  Speaker 2: really enjoyed themselves, plus of a ceremony once again by
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  Speaker 2: an organization that does that story sort of thing so well.
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  Speaker 2: But it just does get measured against the frustration with
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  Speaker 2: how poorly this team has played all season long, and
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  Speaker 2: right now Ashley, they're playing as bad as they have
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  Speaker 2: at any point this season.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's ugly, I mean, and that I do feel like.
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  Speaker 3: It's you know, when you go to when you're dealing
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  Speaker 3: with difficult parts of your life or different things where
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  Speaker 3: there's a stress in one and then there's you know,
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  Speaker 3: other things you've got to focus on. They tell you
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  Speaker 3: to compartmentalize. Right, you've got to focus. You've got to
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  Speaker 3: come to work and you've got to put your workout on,
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  Speaker 3: and you've got to be president at work, and you've
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  Speaker 3: got to get this stuff done. You can't let the
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  Speaker 3: other stuff affect what you're doing at work. That's how
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  Speaker 3: I feel about the Mariners. I am compartmentalizing. I am
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  Speaker 3: looking at that stuff and it gives me at the
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  Speaker 3: actual game and I get a terrible taste in my mouth.
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  Speaker 3: I have ended every game all week, all weekend long
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  Speaker 3: like ugh, gross, I hate this, Like, at what point are.
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  Speaker 4: We going to figure it out? You would see glimpses
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  Speaker 4: of these moments.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, these guys wanted that Cal Rawley George Kirby
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  Speaker 3: where they're both going for the ball in foul territory.
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  Speaker 3: They want to win, but something is happening and it's
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  Speaker 3: not coming together. But I compartmentalize that, and then you know,
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  Speaker 3: these celebrations over the weekend, and that home run derby
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  Speaker 3: was so well done. The guys looked like they were
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  Speaker 3: having the best time. I had had texted with Ryan
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  Speaker 3: and with Bucky. Both of them said it was so
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  Speaker 3: much fun to be there and they just loved it.
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  Speaker 3: And it is a cool thing for people who have
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  Speaker 3: played on this team to be able to come together
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  Speaker 3: and have a reunion of sorts and celebrate the fact
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  Speaker 3: that they all played for this team and it isn't
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  Speaker 3: about what is happening on the field. Was it hard
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  Speaker 3: to get yourself motivated to go watch the home run
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  Speaker 3: derby on Friday?
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  Speaker 4: After that game? Yeah, it was a little rough, but
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  Speaker 4: I turned it on and they did such a great job.
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  Speaker 3: By the end of it, I was like, all right,
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  Speaker 3: kind of you know, just it left me with a
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  Speaker 3: not a good taste in my mouth as terms of
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  Speaker 3: the on field product, But like I was, I genuinely enjoyed.
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  Speaker 3: It was out there DJing and you know, I just
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  Speaker 3: thought they did a great job with it.
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  Speaker 2: You had to separate it in order to enjoy it.
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  Speaker 2: But it was hard to separate it. Yeah, Like I said,
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  Speaker 2: I could have been in attendance, and I don't have
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  Speaker 2: the fifty years you guys have. I could have been
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  Speaker 2: in attendance for either of the nights, both of the nights,
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  Speaker 2: and there was something about it like I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 2: do it. I'm I mean, they're right now. I just
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to be a
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  Speaker 2: part of that, even as somebody that is just watching.
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  Speaker 2: And then as the game, as the events came on,
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  Speaker 2: I was even reluctant to do that. Like on Friday,
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  Speaker 2: I was reluctant to go and even watch it. I
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  Speaker 2: mean Friday, I didn't even think about it when the
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  Speaker 2: game was over, and Saturday I was even reluctant to
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  Speaker 2: even turn it on. And that's that's the truth. But
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  Speaker 2: then once I did, it's like, my goodness, they this
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  Speaker 2: is just an asterclass on how to do a ceremony.
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  Speaker 2: This is spectacular. And I'm glad that I did. And
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  Speaker 2: I know you were glad you watched the home run derby,
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  Speaker 2: So you gotta be able to separate the two, and
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  Speaker 2: I hope that you were able to because I think
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  Speaker 2: you would have enjoyed both of the events Friday and Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: If that were the case, I think you would have
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  Speaker 2: enjoyed them thoroughly. But it certainly does not take away
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  Speaker 2: from what happened on the field. Once again, not just
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  Speaker 2: offensive woes, but just an offensive drought is taking place
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  Speaker 2: right now with this team. They've had offensive woes all
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  Speaker 2: season long. They are in the midst of an absolute
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  Speaker 2: drought right now, and it does not look like they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna turn it around. Doesn't mean they won't. Baseball's crazy,
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean they won't. I mean, we've watched them
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  Speaker 2: go on twelve game winning streaks pulled out of the
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  Speaker 2: fire before here in the last five years. But that's
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  Speaker 2: probably what it's gonna take at this stage in the process.
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  Speaker 2: You're probably gonna have to have like a miracle twelve
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  Speaker 2: game run like nineteen ninety five in order to pull
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  Speaker 2: this thing off right now. And I'm not saying they're
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  Speaker 2: not capable, but it's as low a point as they've
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  Speaker 2: certainly been at all season long. Seven games under five
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  Speaker 2: hundred for the first time this season, and all the
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  Speaker 2: things that they have not done well this season, those
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  Speaker 2: areas that they have come up short all season long,
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  Speaker 2: they're worse at right now today than at any point
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  Speaker 2: this year. So it's looking very grim. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: hard for me to sort of put a shine on
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  Speaker 2: it in any other way. But it's it stinks when
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  Speaker 2: you can have a ceremony like you had on Saturday,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: a feel good fifty years celebration for an organization that
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: has never gone to the World Series, and you can
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: somehow distract people from remembering a lot of the negatives
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: about this organization, particularly what's going on right now, and
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: then for a moment, for an hour, you provide this
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: tremendous feel great, not feel good, feel great celebration that
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: allows everybody to kind of forget about the way that
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: the team's playing right now. And then that same magical evening,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Ashley ends with the players getting booed unmercifully and having
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: things thrown on the field for how terrible they are
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the It's just a terrible feeling. It's
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: an awful feeling. I mean, you mentioned like, do you
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: even want to watch the game on Sunday? I didn't
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: want to, but I was like, but I have to.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: And this is my problem. I keep coming back every
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: time because I do feel like this team does have
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: what it takes if they could just find that spark.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: But where is that spark coming from? And how often
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: is it that we think we're gonna see that spark?
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: And there's always something, I mean, Josh Naylor single handily
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: trying to will the team to a win. You just think, Okay,
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: you see this guy out here, he's gonna he's going
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: to try to help you get this win.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: But then nobody else can do anything.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: And I'm just isn't that crazy? Yeah? I just like
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: every game it's like that.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: It's exactly and that's what's so frustrating. Like, and I
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: know that they're frustrated. I know that they're not like, well,
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Josh is going to do it first guys, We're fine,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: we don't need to do it.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: That's not what's happening.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: But it is just baffling that you can watch this
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: team over and over and over and over again and
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: you're just watching the same thing. And I kind of
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: started to think to myself, well, am I the insane
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: one here?
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I am? Yeah? Yeah, Cole Young was yesterday. Cole Young
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: did everything right, tremendous defense, tremendous hitting. Last night and
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: no one else, none of the other eight picked him up.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: And so that's the type of season that it's been,
• 19:40
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• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Tampa sweeps the Mariners over the weekend, so four to one.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: The loss on Sunday. We'll recaptain that in Mariners Morning
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: after here at the bottom of the hour. The team
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: has the day off. They head to New York to
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: take on the Yankees starting tomorrow. We'll have more of
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: a preview on that front on tomorrow's show. Fifty six
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: and sixty three means they're seven games under five hundred
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: for the first time this year. This is the new
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: official low point. But they do have a shovel and
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: they keep digging deeper. Four games out in the division,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: which is still still easily surpassed with the amount of
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: times that they amount of games that they have remaining
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: but certainly they are not playing like a team that
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: is about ready to gel three and a half games
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: out in the wild card. As well, the Mariners weekend
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: filled with the trementous you know, smiles and nostalgia and
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: all those good things, also highlighted Rick riz being announced
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: as the next member of the Mariners Hall of Fame,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: and it was of course great to see that Seahawks
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: training camp. We will discuss that today quite a bit.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell's gonna join us at seven five, Emmanuel Henderson's
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: gonna join us one of the rookies at six forty
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: five this morning. But it is game week, so a
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: little different to twinge to our coverage here this week.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys will be in town Saturday to start
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: the preseason. Of course, preseason football games get started on Thursday.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Seahawks don't ploy though, until Saturday. Second episode of Hard
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Knocks tomorrow. I have a feeling we're gonna learn a
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: little bit more about Jadarian Price's injury that is keeping
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: them out of practice quite a bit. We'll also ask
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Greg about that, and we got to find out what's
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: going on with this Terry and Arnold's story, because this
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: is this is a significant piece of this weekend's training
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: camp news former detroit lyon former first round draft pick,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: somebody that the Lions wanted to build defense around. But
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: he's facing charges that could send him away to prison
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: for life.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Eight of them. Eight charges.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: There's that. So what's going on? Why are the Seahawks
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: doing this? We'll talk about that later on in the show.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: And of course Husky's camp continues as well as we
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: count the days till the start of the season, the
• 22:22
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• 22:26
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• 22:32
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• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, then you probably had a really crappy weekend.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he enjoyed the weather. You maybe got outside, had
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: a nice meal of food in the sunshine.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: That's always fun, super important to have a meal of
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: food in the sun.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I love having meals of food in the sun, or
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: even better in the shade while the sun is out.
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: We that's an even better experience.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: We ate a meal of food out while watching the
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: fiftieth celebration on Saturday.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, look at you. I don't have to tell
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: you though, I know you're gonna come through it.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, red Wine, it was great.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Ah perfect? Well, Uh it is uh Chuck in the
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: morning Sports Radio ninety three point three KJR FM, and
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell is going to be joining us at seven
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: oh five uh here this morning, so we'll get his
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: thoughts on what we missed over the weekend with training camp,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: updates on Chadarian Price, what's going on with Terry and
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Arnold uh and more. We also have your headlines at
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: the top of the hour as well. But joining us
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: now here from Seahawks training camp one of the rookies.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Uh, I'm just getting way too old
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: because you look way too young. Emanuel Henderson. This is
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: and I think it's my old eyes. I really do so.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: But it's good to meet you. Uh and thanks for
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: coming on with us. We appreciate it, yes, sir, no problem.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: All right. How's it going so far?
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: Amazing?
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, other than getting carted at every bar you go to, to, Uh, well,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: first pro camp. Uh So tell us what surprised you
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: about it thus far?
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: Really just the small details of fundamental you know, they
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: take that to a different level here in the big leagues,
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: I'd probably say, but you know, everything's been going amazing,
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: you know, gain getting getting opportunity to go out and
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: compete easing every day and get better and grow every day.
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: So it's been amazing so far.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, very good, Very good. Nobody's been a jerk to
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: you at this point.
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  Speaker 7: Everybody's been cool.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: We got a great group of guys you know, in
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: the room. So it's been going amazing.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: All right. Great Emmanuel Henderson, our guest Kansas wide receiver,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: slash kick returner, slash h demon on special teams. That's
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: how you've been described to us. What is it about
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: special teams that you love so much? Because you gotta
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: love it if you're gonna play it as fiercely as
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: you play it.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: I'm well, definitely, you know, I want to be here
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: today without suppocal to you know, so I gotta you know,
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: coming in as a young guy, you know, I gotta
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: embrace it, you know, find a way to get on
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: his team, you know, and just do anything possible to
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: help this team win for sure.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: So what is it that what do you feel is
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: the key to being great at special teams.
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: You know, just taking those small details. You know, seriously,
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: a lot of people might look over on special teams,
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: you know, think it's you know, not cool or nothing
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: like that. But I feel like it's not opportunity to
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: get on the field and you know, show what you're
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: gonna do.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: But you were a huge recruit coming out of high school,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: so obviously you got some athletic ability here and some
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: ability to catch the football. From what I understand, you
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: transferred to Kansas so that you could show pro scouts
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: that ability. Do you feel like you accomplished.
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: That one hundred percent? You know, I feel like I
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: want to be here without it.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: So how are you being used? Then? In practice? Are
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: you getting full wide receiver reps? And then then you
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: go to special teams?
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: Saye, I've been doing both.
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: I've been getting some special team words and receiver work
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: at the same time. So it's been going good.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Very good, very good. Who is in the receiver room
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: the guy that's helping you out the most?
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: I want to just say one guy.
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: You know, I lean on all the guys or the
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: guys in there, you know, they all pitch in and
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: throw little tips hand to help me out.
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: So you know, I apply autumn guys for help me
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: for sure?
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: All right? Are you able to withstand Devin Witherspoon's trash
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: talk is gone all right for you? Well?
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: Definitely.
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: You know it's part of football. You know, he can't
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: let it get to your head. So at the end
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: of the day, you just go out there playing ball.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Is it part of football? Do you have to trash
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: talk to your teammates?
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: It's gonna happen, so, you know, I feel like it
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: helps you keep your cool for the game, so you
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: be prepared.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Are you good at it?
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: Definitely?
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Ok? Is there also a level though, like you probably
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: were the best in high school and then you get
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: to college and maybe we're the second best trash talker
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: and then you get to the pros. Are they even
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: better at this level?
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: Definitely, you know, they definitely better at this level.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, very good. Manuel Henderson, Junior, our guest here on
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Chuck in the mornings here at the Seahawks training camp.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Are a right, so hard knocks? How has that been
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: for you? You Are you getting family at home to
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: watch the episode every Tuesday?
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: Well, definitely know my fan watched the first episode. You know,
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: they really enjoy watching it, you know, being crazy, you know,
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: seeing all the cameras and stuff everywhere you go. So yeah,
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: it's been a great, great experience.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: That's different. Well, definitely what about practice now leading to
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: a game on Saturday? How much have things changed here
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: in the last couple of days as you get ready
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: for game prep? Uh?
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: This is my first time. So this was my first week,
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: my first game week for the NFL. So we finish,
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: see how I go today?
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, so it hasn't been mentioned to this point. Definitely
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: nothing over the weekend, just simple training camp. But today
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: you start game prep I think so, yes, sir, okay,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: all right, and you have no idea what to expect
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: that one? What did it look like at Kansas when
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: you start prep? What started on Monday?
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: Started Monday?
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: You know, we just start putting a little in game install,
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: you know, working on you know, certain concepts you know
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: we wanted may I want to put in for the
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: game for sure?
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: All right? Did you end up a Jayawk basketball fan
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: through all that?
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: Definitely?
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: You know I support the basketball team there in Kansas.
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: You know, we had a good organization there and you know, but.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: You were at Alabama long are you more of an
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Alabama basketball Kansas BASKETBA.
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: I'm from Alabama, so I'd probably say, yeah, I love Alabama,
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: So I.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Think that's fair. I think Kansas would understand.
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I like I love both schools.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Still, okay, I don't think Bill self's feelings will be
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: all right. Well, tell us a little bit about you.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: What are your likes dislikes? Give us our listeners a
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: little idea about what makes Emmanuel Henderson junior Emmanuel Henderson junior.
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: Oh me, you know something I like besides football? You know,
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: I love fishing. Okay, any free time I can get,
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: you know, back on my fish, salt water, fresh water,
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: any type of fishing.
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: I love it.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Are you good?
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: I am?
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Is it a boat or on the.
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: Docks either, I do it all definitely okay.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: And your favorite type of fish to catch?
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: I love if I'm DC fishing red snapper for sure.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, do you eat it? Because I know a lot
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: of feed it. I had an old co host and
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: he fished. He loved fishing, and he hates fish.
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I love it, okay, you know at the time.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, catch me one then I love it too.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: All right, man, great to meet you have a great camp,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: all right, and have a great game. Go impress these people,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: all right, Emmanuel Henderson, jun you're joining us right here
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: at our set. Greg Bell is going to join us
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: next plus your headline Sports Radio ninety three point three
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  Speaker 2: kh A r F.
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  Speaker 8: M two balls, two strikes, both runners in motion, slant
• 29:29
  Speaker 8: center field, Mallas sets up shy on the track. The
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  Speaker 8: Rays sweep the Mariners. Man the USS Mariner has taken
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: on some serious water. It is continuing to sing a
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: three and six home stand for the MS. They get
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: swept by Tampa Bay.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Aaron Goldsmith with some cold heart truth right there on
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Mariners TV yesterday as the MS do get swept by
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the first place in the American League, Tampa Bay Rays,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: And things look pretty deep leak right now for the
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: local baseball squad. Seven games under five hundred for the
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: first time this year, four games out of first place,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: three and a half games out of the wild card,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: but still a lot of games to be played, time
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: to make up that deficit, but not a lot of hope.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: And I'll share that hope with you as somebody that's
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: been mostly optimistic about this team for the majority of
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: the season. And that is how Are they suddenly gonna
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: start playing good baseball, because I really don't think they've
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: played it for more than a couple of games here
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: and there at any point this season. So how does
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: it get started? Who kick starts it? What gets it going?
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: A three Young run Cole Young homer that seemed to
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: save them from the abyss a few weeks ago, another
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: one from Dom Canzone not long ago, a dramatic four
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: to two win in their last win that they pulled
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: off against the Tigers, that couldn't get them going. It's
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: hard for me to believe that there's something that will
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: at this stage, and I think I speak on behalf
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: of a lot of Mariner fans out there. Great morning
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: to you all here on this Monday. It's Ashley Ryan
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: and Chuck Powell with you as reroll into our seven
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: o'clock hour. Greg Bell's going to join us here at
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: seven oh five with the latest from Seahawks camp and
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: there's a lot to discuss, and of course most of
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: the show is going to be spent talking some Mariners
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: baseball today because we got a lot of things to
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: get to the bottom of. But first let me get
• 31:33
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• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Seahawks training camp. And this is going to be pretty controversial, Ashley.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, I don't know, Maybe maybe alert
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: all of the networks because I'm breaking news here this morning. Uh,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Seahawks rookie Emmanuel Henderson Junior is only six years old?
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: What?
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't even think it's allowed by NFL rules,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: But six six and a half seven at the most.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: There's no way that that man is twenty one years old.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: There's just no way. Sat down here at our set
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: and he's got really long legs. He's like six foot one,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: but he's got really long legs. So sitting there, he
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: looked like a little kid sitting across the table from me,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: and somebody glued a little tiny beard on his face.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: My goodness, that's the youngest professional athlete I've seen to
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: this day.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Or it's just the oldest you've been when you've seen
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: a professional athlete.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: That could be it too.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: It's a combination of both.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Maybe what I had to look at in the mirror
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: this morning compared to what I looked across the set
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: and saw, but my goodness, that guy looks six. I mean,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I would have guessed if you would have said, is
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: that guy going to be going to prom this weekend
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: or is that guy going to debut make his first
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: preseason four football game this Saturday, I'd have been all
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: in on prom. He is one young looking kid, all right.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Seahawks training camp continues here. We'll talk with Greg Bell
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: about Emmanuel Henderson Junior and the controversial fact that he's
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: here at age seven. We will also get you ready
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: for game day on Saturday against the Cowboys, and we
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: got a couple of other things to talk about with
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Greg from the National Football League. Couple of interesting things.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Luther Burden, who the Bears are expecting to have a
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: big breakout this year in the second year, Well, he's
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: going to miss the rest of the preseason with an injury,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: and whenever they declare that, that probably threatens his opening
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: day status as well. Laramie Tunsel's going to be out
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: for a long time for the Washington Commanders had biceps
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: surgery over the weekend. Their starting left tackle is going
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: to miss the majority of the season. And congratulations to
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: all of those that got into the Hall of Fame
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: this weekend. Another phenomenal ceremony on Saturday, which included the
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: stand up routine of top rank comedian Adam Vinnettieri, who
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: decided to call out all of his teammates on Saturday,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: which was fantastic. As I mentioned with the Mariners, they
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: did lose to the Tampa Bay Rays, not once, not twice,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: but three times this weekend, so they are seven games
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: under five hundred. They get set for a brand new
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: series on the road against the New York Yankees starting tomorrow.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: The Mariners weekend, despite the losing, in terms of nostalgia,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: an overwhelming success, just great events. The home run derby
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: ended up being a great event, and so did the
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: fifty player celebration on the field on Saturday, which included
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Rick Riz being named to the Mariners Hall of Fame.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: So con glad congratulations to Riz. Also congratulations to North
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Carolina they won the Little League Softball World Series over
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: the weekend. All right, let's talk to Greg Bell.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: As part of our continuing NFL coverage for the twelfth Man.
• 34:57
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  Speaker 2: Greg, I don't want to show you up this morning.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know you do a great job covering
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: the beat, but you obviously missed one, so I want
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: you to have it first. The Seahawks have a six
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: and a half year old on their roster. His name
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: is Emmanuel Anderson Junior. You can go ahead and report.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: That excellent on jor he is. He's very Oh my gosh,
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: he's very He looks slight in his uniform too, but
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: he's oh you want to receive.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: But yeah, how how does the guy that slight hold
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: up out there? Especially at the age of six. It's incredible.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: He runs away from everyone. It's like, is that what
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: it is for the playground at recess? Yeah?
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: He does.
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: He runs outside as a gunner and kickoff, kickoff return,
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: and he just runs away from everybody. That's just them
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: over right now.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, is he living up to the hype
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: about him? I mean, we got other things to get to,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: but since we're all on the subject, is he living
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: up to the hype about what kind of a special
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: team's demon he actually has been reported to be.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean it's I guess it's relative hype of
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: a special teams demon. But they did draft him for
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: special teams and he was that at Kansas. He was
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: a kick returner and kick coverage gunner guy. They lost
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: their gunner, Drake Young and free agency to the Raiders,
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: and that's one of the reasons they've drafted him. And
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: he has spent a lot of time in turning camp
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: with Jay Harbough on the special teams and I've talked
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: to before at least spent the first twenty minutes of
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: practice or so on special teams. And that's Emmanuel Henderson's
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: time to make the team, and he most likely will,
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: and he most likely will be on probably all four
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: kicker He blocked four field goals I think it was
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: in college in one season. There's yeah there, Well that
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: was Ricky White actually, the UNLV wide receiver block four
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: field goals one season. So there are players in the
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: especially a Super Bowl champion team, you have to have
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: players like that who round out the roster and make
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: special teams and if they're good enough that you've drafted
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: for special teams. That means one fewer player, a starter
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: or a veteran that you can have to put on
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: special teams that you can then preserve is snap counts
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: and it's possibility to get injured. So it is a
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: factor of being a successful team that just won it
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: all that you're drafting players for special teams.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Greg bellis with US our Seahawks Insider here on this
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Monday morning. A lot of things to get to, so
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: let's get to the heart of the big hot topics
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: coming out of the weekend. Let's start with rookie first
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: round pick Jadarian Price. He's been sidelined in practice. What
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: do we know about that?
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: Miss Friday? Miss Saturday? And McDonald after the scrimming Saturday
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: night said upper leg soreness is what we're going with.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: That's what he said, kind of jokingly. He said, it's minor,
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: a couple of days thing he thinks, and they're resting
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: him because it's early August instead of plowing him through it.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: That is their word now, But of course noticeable. That's
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: your top rookie first round pick and the guy who's
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: to be the heir for Kenneth Walker's not on the field,
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: so Ifmanuel Wilson's got more run with the ones along
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: with George Hallani and Wilson was prominent in the practice
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: on both Friday and Saturday. He even before Jenari and
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: Price's injury, Wilson was starting the carve out a role
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: with the first team offense in short yardage drills, in scrimmages.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: He's I mentioned he's more of a plotting plagu' is
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: the wrong word because that makes him sound slow. He's
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: more of a plowing, bruising, physical type runner. And indeed,
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: after the practice Saturday, McDonald said it's his physicality that
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: he brings a different element in among the other running backs.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: That's not Price's game. Hailani is more of a pass
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: catching pass blocker, but the guy if they want two
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: yards or three yards on third down. It looks like
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: Emmanuel Wilson's going to have this role this year.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell with us our Seahawks insider follow at g
• 39:07
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• 39:11
  Speaker 2: dot com. Get your subscription today. Maybe the bigger story,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: the even bigger story is the interest being reported that
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks have in former Lion and currently under investigation
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: for a crime that could lead to a long prison sentence.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Terry and Arnold, formerly of the Detroit Lions, what is
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: going on there?
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: Well, he has eight phony charges against him for kidnapping
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: and other charges in Florida that you're right, could put
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: him in prison for his life. My read on this
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: the second This reported visit is the second one. His
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: agent said last month that the Seahawks are one of
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: the teams that Arnold visited. First round pick Tyler had
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: a position that is such a premium in this lead.
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: First it was due diligence, but now he is indeed
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: visited for a second time. I have to think the Seahawks,
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: John Schneider and their personnel staff have a read on
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: where this is going and believe that he may be exonerated.
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: There's just no way you bring in a guy that
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: you think is about to be suspended or even worse
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: for him, thrown in prison and just play it out
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: till he gets thrown in prison. I don't see that
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: being the case here. So the Seahawks are doing investigations
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: that to me must have led to them believing there
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: is a decent chance that he will be exonerating, and
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: they want to be at the front of the line
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: and the inside track if and when that happens. This doesn't,
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: on the surface, feel like a Mike McDonald acquisition. All
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: this feels like a Pete Carroll reclamation project. Right. Carroll
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: wanted to bring everybody on and thought his personality could
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: fix anyone came from anywhere. This doesn't seem like Mike
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: McDonald's got the tea to me. Again, I frankly know
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: not very much other than what we've all read about
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: the situation and the jurisprudence and the legal process in
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: Florida going on. But I have to think the Seahawks
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: have more information before they would make this kind of interest.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know that this slips into editorial and
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: not reporting, but my goodness, Like, you've just got such
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: a good thing, great thing going here, and it's because
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: you are seemingly avoiding guys because Arnold, I mean, yeah,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: maybe maybe he had very little to do with this
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: and there's a big misunderstanding and the courtroom's gonna laugh
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: it off. Oh I'm sorry you went through this, mister Arnold.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: But he had a bit of a reputation as being
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: sort of a problem child with the Lions. There were
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: reports that his defensive coordinator couldn't get him to shut
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: up on the field and it was driving him crazy
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: and called him out by name and the press this
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: past season. It just feels like, why would you decide
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: to change the way that you're doing now what you're
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: doing now, which is finding character as much as athletic ability,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: as much as talent, as much as skill. It just
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: does not feel like something that that they've done to
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: get them in this World champion position in the first place,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: does it?
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: It doesn't. And it is chasing edges though. I mean,
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: this is an edge, this is a okay and they're
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: trying to get into. They're trying to be in the
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: front of the line if he gets exonerated, period. And
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: this reminds me a lot of the Quinton Dunbar. I've
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: been around enough to remember Quinton Dunbar and them signing
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: him when he was under charges in Florida. That didn't
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: work out very well and he didn't play well. He
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: was still in trouble in Florida and other things came out.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: I remember dealing with the Browood County Prosecutor in Florida,
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: over that case. So this reminds me of that on
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: the surface. But again I'm talking a little out of
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: times because I don't know anything more than we've already read.
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: But first round pick at the cornerback position. If for
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: some reason he was exonerated and the Seahawks had the
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: inside track and he'd visited twice, they could snap him
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: up and sign him before everybody else in the league
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: got back on him, and then the Seahawks would have
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: two first round picks starting a cornerback in their defense.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: Now that's way down the line, of course, but that
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: has to be the thinking here that the Seahawks have
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: been covered something and more than just an agent telling them.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: But they've done some digging to figure out that there
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: might be an exoneration down the road. Here, they will
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: let this play out, and I can't imagine they would
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: sign it. I don't believe they would sign him at
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: this stage. I would think something else would have to
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: happen in a positive direction toward him be an exonerator
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: before they would do it. But it also speaks to
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: this league. Their bottom line job is to win games.
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: Jase Edges find the way to improve football sense. This
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: perhaps could do that. I mean, I was there when
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: they drafted Frank Cark, who got kicked off the Michigan team.
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: After the GM John Schnender said, I'll never draft a
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: player with amestic violence history. Football wins out, and it's
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: sad to say sometimes, but football ultimately wins out.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Does it say anything about not being satisfied with Josh
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Job right now?
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: No. I think it says we're going to stockpile all
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: the talent we possibly can pursue, and if we have
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: three starters like we did last year, so be it.
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: I mean they had what they believe were three starters
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: with Witherspoon, Job and Woolan well and got two expenses.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: They let him go. Neiamiyah Pritchett has been that third
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: defensive back so far, and when they go Nickel. But
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: if they can add a first round pick, then we'll
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: have Job and two first round picks as our cornerbacks.
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: I believe it's nothing more than that.
• 44:44
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  Speaker 2: seven o five to talk Seahawks football, and right now
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: we're in the midst of Seahawks training camp. You spent
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: some time talking about AJ Finley, writing about AJ Finley
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: over the weekend. Why was he a focus of yours.
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: Because he was a story of Saturday eight's practice almost
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: a year to the day that the same event last year,
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: the FanFest. Last summer, AJ Finley ripped his knee out,
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: had reconstructive knee surgery, missed the entire year. When guys
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: have surgeries and then a long rehab of twelve months,
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: including many offseason months, they give him the choice. The
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: NFL Players Association does not require that. They don't allow
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: teams to say you must rehab.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: At our facility.
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: A lot of times guys go back to their colleges
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: and doctors and physical therapists and rehab specialists that they've
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: worked with in the fast and they trust and it's
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: close to their home. Well. AJ Finley, who's from the Southeast,
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: stayed in Seattle, and then the entire rehab was in
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: the Seahawks facility. Said he made it a goal to
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: go out to practice at least twice a week during
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: last season, even though he was grinding through rehab. And
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: McDonald and the Seahawks noticed all of that and they said, yeah,
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: that impressed us. And then Saturday, he intercepts the pass
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: from Sam Donald Jack and Smith and Jiggby was running
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: an out route and they were doing a simulated overtime
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: eleven on eleven early in practice, and Smith and Jiggab
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: fell down coming out of his break and aj Finley,
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: coming over from safety, was the only guy there in
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: the passes hit him right in the chest because Smith
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: and jigg was on the ground. He Finley runs to
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: the other end. The whole defense is running the other
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: end with them celebrating. And then when he got to
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: the simin and they looked like they had won the
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl again. And the place the defensive players they knew,
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: they knew that this was a year to almost a
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: year of the day and the same event that his
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: career was in jeopardy. And when you're as he said,
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: and McDonald said after the practice Saturday, when you're in
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: his type of position bottom and the roster, trying to
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: make the team and stick the third or fourth fifth safety,
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: and things like that happened, you can be done. And
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: the teams often cut you, and the Seahawks didn't cut
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: him for some of the reasons, like I mentioned, and
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: that was by far the feel good stories. Mike McDonald said,
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: how could you not be incredibly happy for him? He
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: broke the team down at the end of the scrimmage
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: in the team huddle, and yeah, that was It was
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: aj Finley night for sure.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Great. All right, So it's game week Saturday, Dallas
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Cowboys preseason opener. How does that change practice this week?
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: Well, let's taper off a little bit, especially the guys,
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: the bulk of the team that's going to play, the
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: younger players and the backup players. So the practice I
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: wouldn't think will be as intense starting Thursday Friday, especially
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: Wednesday Thursday Friday. I don't expect the starters to play
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: much at all the entire preseason. A Super Bowl champion
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: doesn't need to see the starters going out and hey,
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: let's see what they look like. It does say, though,
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: that Jenarian Price may not play as much as he
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: would have depending on this injury, and they won't force
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: him into a lot of playing time with coming off
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: if he does come back to practice at all this week,
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: So that could be the one change because of Price's injury.
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: Otherwise he would play a lot. But it's the preseason, Chuck,
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: They're not You're not going to see the people that
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: are going to be playing on the regular season very much.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: At all, Right, no doubt about that. Yeah, So yeah,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: we got all week to look forward to that. Anything else,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: anything else catch your eye fan Fest on Saturday that
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: we should mention here before we preview your show today.
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: MONTOI Foster. We had him on our show last week.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: He's a Michigan State product. Michigan State was his only
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: big time offer come out of Lakewood State Edward High
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: School in suburban Cleveland. He was a high school substitute
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: teacher in a real estate agent last fall. He's got
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: a chance to make the team every day he does something.
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: I wrote a story about it in the News Tribune
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: about how he was in a Cleveland gym during last
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: Seahawks season, unsigned out of football, and a dude just
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: walked up to him randomly at like some Planet Fitness
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: type of gym and said, Hey, I heard you played
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: and you were in Seahawks training camp this summer. I
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: can throw balls to you if you want to stay sharp.
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: And this imposters like some random dude walked up to
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: what turned out Jake Dostele as a quarterback of some
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: repute in Northeast Ohio high school football ten years ago
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: and now Jake Dostell is his private trainer and made
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: him ready for the Seahawks call December when they signed
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: him to the practice squad. Well, ah he goes on
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: the practice squad, runs all the way through the Super Bowl,
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: is on the field. His parents got to come to
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. He got a ring, and now he's packed.
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: They signed him back for the preseason with a chance
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: to make the team and he just keeps doing every
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: day he shows up. Saturday was another great practice. Elijah Royo.
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: I mentioned the tight ends in this offense with Brian Fleury.
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: The second year tight end. Elijah Royo is now healthy.
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: He didn't have only fifteen catches as a rookie second
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: round pick last year. He's having a really strong camp
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: in an offense that's going to feature tight ends.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: All right, what do we have on the Greg Bell
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: radio show here today?
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: Really good interview with Anthony Bradford that I taped on
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: Friday that you'll hear at eleven o'clock today. The player
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: that for everyone seems to love to hate. It's kind
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: of odd that a Super Bowl champion as a people
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: just love the rip him online for miss blocked. He
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: talked to me about that. I watched him carry his
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: three month old daughter in his left arm signing autographs
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: and his right and he was just beaming after practice
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: on Friday holding his daughter. He's married to his grade
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: school sweetheart he met in Muskegon, Michigan. They had their
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: first child three months ago. He's in the final year
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: of his contract. If those people that love to rip
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: him they'd seen him with his daughter, if they talk
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: to him, they might not be so apt to rip
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: him as they do. The Seahawks love them some, Anthony
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: Bradford more than a lot of you listening. Do you're
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: gonna hear from him at eleven o'clock?
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: All right, sounds great, Thank you sir, We appreciate it.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: We'll see in a little bit happy Monday.
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: All right, Greg bell Our Seahawks end signer. A segment
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: brought to you by The Emerald Queen Casino and of
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: course catch Greg's show today at ten o'clock till noon
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: right here on KJR. Coming up next. Well, it was
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: as bad a weekend as you could have as a team.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: The Mariners, scoring four times in three games, getting swept
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: by the Tampa Bay Rays, and falling to the lowest
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: point in the standings that they've been at the entire season.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: So now would the organization consider a managerial change? We'll
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: discuss at next Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: R FM. Let's give them to talk about.
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: How about love, love, love love, I love us, give
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: it out.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Uh, it's time for talk of camp, giving you something
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: to talk about every single day here out at Seahawks
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Training Camp, Virginia Mason Athletics Center. And yes we have
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: the dawn has broken, the morning has broken, uh, and
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: we are getting ready for another practice game week here
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: for the Seahawks, and certainly after FanFest on Saturday. There
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: are a lot of players that are creating some hype
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: around these here parts. And then the Judarian Price injury
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: which he sat for a couple practices, that's generating a
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: lot of conversation. But I think the talk of camp
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: this morning has nothing to do with anyone on the
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: active roster. The talk of camp are all the stories
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: that are swirling around whether or not the Seahawks are interested.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Actually we know that they are interested, just how interested
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks are in adding Terryan Arnold. That has been
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: a huge topic of conversation throughout the course of the weekend.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: For those of you, uh who may not be in
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: the know, maybe you're just getting around to you know,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: you went hiking and just came down from a mountain
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: and you're like, what are you talking about? Terry and Arnold?
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Who's that? Is that that guy from the Lions that
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: got arrested. Yes, that's the guy from the Lions that
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: got arrested. That's who we're talking about here, And not
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: exactly for jaywalking. This is a guy that is right
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: now facing eight different counts. He's not in jail, but
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: he's facing eight different counts that could, if tacked together,
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: put him in prison for the rest of his life.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: And yet there might be enough wiggle room in there
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: for some misinformation or maybe he's got enough distance from
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: the criminals themselves. That's created a little bit of a
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: window that organizations are keeping aware of a young cornerback
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: who was a first round draft selection just a couple
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: of years ago out of Alabama and so certainly worthy
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: of having on your roster, and a couple of teams
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: have brought him in. It's for interviews. The Seahawks have
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: done it twice, Okay, so they found out a little
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: bit about him, and now they brought him back in
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: and so obviously whatever they heard the first time around
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: did not scare them off. As they're trying to find
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: out more information about Terry and Arnold, why he's involved
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: in this, what his involvement is in this, and just
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: collect kind of character of a person that he is.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: But the information seems stacked against him certainly, and they're
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: trying to get to the bottom of that. Greg Bell,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: our Seahawks insider, was with us at seven o five
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: this morning and I asked him about the Seahawks reported
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: interests in Terry and Arnold.
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: Well, he has eight phony charges against him for kidnapping
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: and other charges in Florida that you're right, could put
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: him in prison for his life. My read on this
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: the second this reported visit is the second one. His
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: agent said last month that the Seahawks were one of
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: the teams that Arnold visited. First round pick Dyla had
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: a position that is such a premium in this league.
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: First it was due diligence, but now if he is
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: an he's visited for a second time. I have to
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: think the Seahawks, John Schneider and their personnel staff have
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: a read on where this is going and believe that
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: he may be exonerated. There's just no way you bring
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: in a guy that you think is about to be
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: suspended or even worse for him, thrown in prison and
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: just play it out till he gets thrown in prison.
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: I don't see that being the case here. So the
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: Seahawks are doing investigations that to me must have led
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: to them believing there is a decent chance that he
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: will be exonerating and they want to be at the
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: front of the line and the inside track if and
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: when that happens. This doesn't, on the surface, feel like
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: a Mike McDonald acquisition. All this feels like a Pete
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: Carroll reclamation project. Right. Carroll wanted to bring everybody on
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: and thought his personality could fix anyone came from anywhere.
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: This doesn't seem like Mike McDonald's got the tea to
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: me again, I frankly know not very much other than
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: what we've all read about the situation and the jurisprudence
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: and the legal process Florida going on. But I have
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: to think the Seahawks have more information before they would
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: make this kind of interest.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell with us earlier in the show today. If
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: you want to hear the entire conversation, and there was
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: more on Arnold, you could check that out at ninety
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: three to three kjar dot com as part of our podcast. So, Ashley,
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: here are the allegations against Terry and Arnold, and they
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: do not read will. Prosecutors allege Arnold orchestrated a plot
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: to retaliate against three individuals he suspected of stealing from him.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: Investigators claim Arnold's associates lured the victim to an apartment
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: where they were beaten, pistol whipped, and held at gunpoint
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: while the attack was allegedly streamed directly to Arnold, who
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: sat in the comfort of his own home and watched
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: all of this go down. While Arnold was not physically
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: present at the apartment during the assault, prosecutors argue he
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: set the events in motion and communicated instructions and then,
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: like a warrior, watched it all from the comfort of
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: his own home. Not good, No, And.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: I'm actually even surprised that they'd even bring him in
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: because I just wouldn't want to mess with any of that,
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: because it sounds like a messy situation. It doesn't sound
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: like anything that's going to be resolved soon, and I
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: would just want to steer clear of it.
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: We don't need any distractions or anything.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: And then if you bring him in before anything's been cleared,
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, that isn't going to be a great look.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: And then that's more of a distraction when you're trying
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: to defend a super Bowl championship.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: I don't like it.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I could see where he could get off,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I mean, we've watched enough
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: of these type of movies, and I have a feeling
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: this is what got Terry and Arnold in trouble in
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: the first place. He's watched too many movies. Yeah, maybe, yeah,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: And so we've seen these where we've seen this in life,
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: not just in movies where yeah, he seemed to be involved,
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: But do you have anything to make the charges stick?
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: I could see very easily where they might not since
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: he wasn't even there present. And maybe you don't have
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: a copy of the tape, or you don't have this
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: or that. Maybe the people that he hired wouldn't throw
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: him under the bus. You might not have a witness,
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: You might not have enough to make these charges stick,
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: especially since they are so aggressive that we're talking about
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: if they all stuck, he's never going to see another
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: day of freedom. So I can see why an organization
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: says they got some inside information these charges aren't gonna stick.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: He is going to be a free man and then
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: go from there. But obviously, Ashley, there was some involvement here.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's something ugly enough, like do you really
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: want to be associated with this person in an organization
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: that's on top of the world right now? And one
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: of the reasons that you've not only got into the
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: top of the mountain in two short years under Mike McDonald,
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: but one of the main reasons is because you readdressed
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: how you're going to draft, you put character a lot
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: higher on your list of players that you want to
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: draw to Seattle than ever before, and it's worked like
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: a charm. Why would you mess with that that recipe
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: at all to bring in a cornerback who, by the way,
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: has not exactly taken the league by storm in Detroit.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: I watched plenty of Lions games, and he sometimes is
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: more of a detriment on the field than he is
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: a benefit on the field and also someone that the
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Lions did not hesitate Ashley. They cut him almost immediately
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: because of this, and he has had some behavioral issues
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: with the Lions in the past to begin with. So
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know why you would mess with your recipe
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: right now, but make no mistake about it, we are first,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, Greg said it like, they just want to
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: make sure they're in line if in fact that this
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: is a big, you know, a big mistake, like Terry
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: and Arnold is innocent of this, they want to be
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: in the line and they are at the front of
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: the line for if Terry and Arnold is a free
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: man going forward, that they've already made their impression on
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: him to bring him here in Seattle and help their secondary.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: I don't like it. I don't like any of it.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what I don again, as I said,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: I just don't. Yeah, we don't need that distraction. We're
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: trying to defend a Super Bowl championship. That's gonna be
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: hard enough. We've got I mean, just even in our
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: own division. We've got enough stuff to worry about, and
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: we don't need someone that will come in and just
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: the off the field things that he's dealing with are
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: a bigger distraction. That just seems like, as you said,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: recipe for disaster.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: No thanks, Yeah, I mean anybody in life has been
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: mistaken for somebody that you know, Hey, was that you
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: that I just saw that ran out of the bank,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: like no, I was getting a jump at juice across
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: the street. I got a thousand people that can vouch
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: for that, like mistaken identity type thing. That's about the
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: only thing where if we found out that it was
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: just total mistaken identity, there was somebody that looked just
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: like Terry ar Yeah, who was or whose name was
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: Terry and Arnold? Or he thought he was watching you
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: know his uh he thought it was a joke like
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: the Michael Douglas movie The Game, Like he thought they
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: were just scaring them. And then the next thing, you know,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: he's like, oh my gosh, they're beating those poor people.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: Oh this is terrible. Stop this now. Unless it's someone
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: like that, then I don't see why this organization riding
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: as high as they're riding right now would be interested
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: in this type of character. I don't care how talented
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: he is. You have proven here in a very short
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: period of time that we are going to prioritize things differently.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: We don't want Malik McDowell's anymore, and we don't want
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Terry and Arnolds anymore. We don't even want Jamal Adams
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: and he wasn't a criminal, but we don't even want
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: an attitude like Jamal Adams around the facility anymore. So
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: why don't we just say, hey, Terryan, I hope that
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: you don't You're not nearly as guilty as you look
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: right now, and I hope for your sake that if
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: you are innocent, that you don't spend any time behind bars.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Other than that it's been nice to meet you. We'll
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: continue with our Super Bowl Championship thing we've got going
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: here right now.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just say that, write in a letter.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: And honestly, I don't blame the team for doing their
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: due diligence and checking it out, but I think you
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: could have probably done a lot of research and found
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: out what's going on without having him out for multiple visits.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: I think you could have done I mean, just looked
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: at the charges and talked to his representation and talk
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: to various people without ever even having him out for
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: two visits.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Two visits seems weird. Yeahright, doing your due diligence, kicking
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: the tires, doing your investigation, meeting him once, hearing his
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: side of the story. Hey, that I guess I can
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: go with. But for them to be at the front
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: of the line in case there's a in case there's
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: a loophole that Yeah, no, the guilty Terry and Arnold
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: isn't going to be charged. So he's just too much
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: of a talent to pass up. That I don't want
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: anything to do with and I don't think that they
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: should have anything more to do with him either. All right,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: Coming up next on the program, speaking of the talk
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: of camp, there are talks of camp everywhere. We're getting
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: ready for the preseason week. People are now starting to,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: you know, dissect their fantasy football plan for this upcoming year.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: And there are a lot of really interesting stories that
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: came out over the weekend that are declaring who the
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: talks of camp are in other NFL camps. So we're
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: gonna spend some time on that This Morning Sports Radio
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: ninety three point three KJRFM. I do really love Dick
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: and Julia's relationship. It's really come together it's really blossom.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: It seems like they've gotten so close.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's such good friends. They got each other's backs.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: They do and at and T apparently has both of
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: theirs as well, which is nice.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, she has a great story to tell and
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: Dick's just always been.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: There for Yes, it's the impression I get as well.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good morning to you, and happy Monday to you all. Yes,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: coming off a terrific weekend, nice chilly mornings, it's like
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: ideal conditions out here right now as far as I'm concerned.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: Of course, I am the founder president a breeze club,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: so I love a good breeze. I like a good
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: overcast morning. And so I'm sitting out here in my
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: jacket and my cracking hat here at Seahawks training camp
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: and just loving live right now, Ashley, really am.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: I am in the studio with my parka over my legs,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: and it's actually a little warm, which is unusual because
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: usually my fingers are like almost purple because it's so
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: cold in here. So I almost kind of want to
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: turn the AC up so that I can feel what
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: you're feeling.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: Oh, feels like that'd be more magical.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but not everybody goes for a good chill,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: chilly morning with a breeze in the summer. Maybe you
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: wouldn't like it. I don't know, if you're already all
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: bundled up, maybe you wouldn't like it out here. I
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't like being hot all the time,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: so I really do embrace those mornings where I come
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: outside and I'm like, oh, it's cool down.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: I hate when you come out in the morning and
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: it's still warm.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll be back in studio tomorrow, so it's a
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: bad time to make this suggestion. But do you everythink it?
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: Just like, you know, put my face like drawing it
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: on a volleyball and have it in there in the
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: seat at the studio so it kind of feels like
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: you're out here with me.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: I can safely say I have never thought of that,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: but I would not be opposed to it.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well next year, Yeah.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: Something to look forward to, something to plan ahead for next.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Year when we're completely blinded and caught off guard by
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: training camp comes right exactly. Yeah, you couldn't put that
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: plan together, all right. ABC's of the m's coming your
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: way a little later on this hour. Of course, the
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Mariner's coming off a very interesting weekend, very nostalgic, very warm,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: you know, great history, great ceremonies, certainly, But we've already
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: talked about that a couple of times. Let's talk about
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: the other side, the ugliness of how this team has
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: played this season and how they find themselves right now
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: in a big battle. I mean, they don't have a
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: hole that too big to overcome. They can overcome it,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: but they also seem to be in this shallow hole
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: holding a shovel. They are digging the hole deeper for
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: themselves at a time we were hoping they would have
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: dug themselves out of this, and they're getting ready to
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: go on the road for what you might argue is
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: the roughest road trip they've had so far this season.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: At the Yankees, at the Astros, at the Brewers over
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: the course of the next nine games, and they have
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: been playing horrible baseball on the road this year. It
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: was at home where they found their sanctuary, and yet
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: you played like garbage at home here as of late
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: as well. So it just hasn't turned around. It just hasn't.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: We've isolated certain moments in certain games that they pulled
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: out and we circled them and thought to ourselves, that's
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: the turning point, and it didn't end up being a
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: turning point. They've played well for two three days at
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: a time, but we have not seen them play well
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: for a week or more at a time this entire season.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: Everybody in baseball does that at least once during the
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: course of the year. The Colorado Rockies went on a
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: two week tear not long ago. But this team just
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: has not found its groove this entire season. Even Stella
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: got her groove back.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: God, come on, guys.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: You would think that the Mariners could as well. It
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: just hasn't happened. And we're running out of time, Ashley,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: for that to happen.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: And on Friday, when we talked about it before going
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: into a series where we were swept by the Rays,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: I even remember saying, I haven't given up on this
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: team being able to do it, but I've given up
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: on thinking these special moments are going to translate into
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: something bigger. Yeah, Because I mean, we have no proof
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: that they are able to turn that into anything, which
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: is I think the most disappointing part for me. Honestly,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: I think you know the amount of times we've said,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: as you were pointing out early, you know, the Dom
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: home run, the Cole Young home run. There was There's
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: been three or four times in the last month and
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: a half where we've been like, that's it, that was
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: the moment, and nothing happens, and I just cannot figure
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: it out. And I watch this team and I still
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: keep turning on every game thinking to myself, Okay, well,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: I know they can do it.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: Like I know they have the skill to be able
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: to do this.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, you're looking at their stats after the game
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: and how many people were oh for four or oh
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: for three, and you know, just disappointing that way. You're thinking,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: I know these guys could do it if they could
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: put it together. But I just don't know that I
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: have the faith that they can put it together because
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: they're just not showing up day in and day out.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: I'm on the other side of that fence now as
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: of this weekend, I'm on the side of the fence
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: of I know you have time to come back from this,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: and I know you're capable of coming back from this,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: but I now am on the other side. I don't
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: think you're going to do it. And that's the first
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: time I've been here all season one. Yeah, and it's
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: very frustrating. And I saw a very frustrated Jerry Depoto
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: get interviewed Friday by MLB Network And that was before
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: three straight losses to the Tampa Bay Rays where you
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: could not create any offense. And the Tampa bay Rays
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: can pitch, there's no question about it. But they're not.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, you weren't. You weren't going up against you know, uh,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Nolan Ryan, Michael, Mike Scott, you know, and Joe Sambido
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: to pull out a name from the past. You weren't
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: going up against one of the greatest rotations of all
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: time this past weekend and you still could not summon
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: any kind of offense whatsoever. So I am I'm on
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: the side of thinking they're you know, they're probably not
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: going to come back. They're probably not going to get
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: this done this year. And frankly, they lead the league
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: in players sad faces lingering in the dugout long after
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: another disappointing loss. It was Brian wu who the cameras
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: captured on Sunday. We've seen it numerous times. I think
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: they're at a loss. I don't think they can figure
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: it out. I think that they are as mystified as
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: I am as to why this team is not in
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: much better position than what they are right now and
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: not getting better, actually getting worse. For them to have
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: performed this poorly offensively this year, I just never saw
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: it coming. I thought this was going to be a
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: year where they were going to win the division quite
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: easily and that we wouldn't have all of this consternation,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: hand ringing, wondering when they were going to break out.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: I didn't think we were going to have that type
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: of a year. I never said they were going to
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: guarantee you win the World Series. I don't even think
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: I picked them to win the World Series. But I
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: did pick them to get to the World Series, that's
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: for sure. But I did, and I was very firm
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: on this. I did think that this was going to
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: be a year where Mariner fans could have just enjoyed
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: a year and not spend the entire season wondering when
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: they're going to snap out of some long funk. Well,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: we're in a four and a half month funk, and
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: a four and a half month funk probably means that
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: is who you are, and that is grossly disappointing at
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: this stage.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you and Bucky have always said, you know,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: there's you're gonna win forty games, You're gonna lose forty games,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: and then the other ones are kind of showing you
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: who you are.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: Right, There's gonna be some you're gonna win.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: By luck, and some you're gonna win by bad luck,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: and then it's the others that you're gonna really get
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: a sense of who this team is. And I have
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: no sense of who this team is at all, not
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: from the short from the losses, none of it.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: I don't not short sample size anymore. This is a
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: large sample size of playing this way. Yeah, so the
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: outliers have been the good moments. Frankly yea, and so well,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: so we start the blame game. I mean, I know
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: that that's going on. It'll go into the offseason, and
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: I know that a lot of people are gonna ask
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: for heads and call for heads and firings. And I
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: have already stayed in that I would have fired Dan
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: Wilson coming out of the All Star break, and I
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: still think, well, I know I would do that today.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: I would do that today to try to create some
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: sort of fire, some sort of inspiration. Logan Gilbert told
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: Softy and Faint, if somebody did that, I'd be really angry. Well, good,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: get angry. Let's get some people angry, then let's shake
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: things up a little bit. Hard to defend Kevin Seitzer,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, I thought he did a terrific job
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: a year ago. But it's hard to defend him right
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: now when this offense has been bad for four and
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: a half months. Even Edgar, even the great figure that
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: Edgar is in this organization, this isn't the first time
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: that they decided you're not the right guy for the job.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: So I mean, there's really no defense if you decided
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: to overturn your offensive game plan for the rest of
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: the season to try to create some sort of spark
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: or fire. I don't know if I would sit there
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: and stroke Kevin Seitzer's hair and tell them they did
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: you wrong, Like, You've had plenty of time to get
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: this offense going this year and it just hasn't happened.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: And I mean, I think about that as people start
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: doing the blame game, and I said, I'm gonna be
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: bullish about this and I will remain this way into
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: the offseason. I look, I don't defend Jerry to Poto,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: as I've been accused of because there's some sort of
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: personal relationship between Jerry and I. I just happen to
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: think he's a really good executive who's done some dumb things.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: But I think this team should have won more than
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: what it has in the last five years. And I
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: certainly think they should have won more. I think that, yeah,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: he doesn't he doesn't ace every test, but we should
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: be in a championship window. We should have been competing
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: in a championship this year. And I think he and
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: Justin and their ability to draft and developed and the
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: farm system that they've created once into the best farm
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: system in the sport, and then again those guys are
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: being used now and now we've got them again. I
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: think those are the things that an executive does. Now.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: I came down on hard on him. I think he's
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: had some bad moments and press conferences that I've come
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: down hard on him. I came down hard on him
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: for a number of years for not making that move
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: at the trading deadline and protecting your prospects too much.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: You can't fall in love with all of them. I
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: don't know how many times that I've told Ashley and
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: Bucky that you can't fall in love with all of
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: your prospects all the time. Well, they've loosened up on
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: that a little bit. They even traded for two rentals
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: at the end of last trading deadline and another one
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: this year in Taylor Ward, which is something they wouldn't
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: do in the past. So they loosened up on that.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: In the offseason, they traded away two of their top
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: what fifteen prospects to get Brendan Donovan. So they have
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: changed some of the things that I hated about them
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: and criticized harshly, oh by the way, over the course
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: of the years. And then maybe the thing that I
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: criticized the most, I wanted Jerry out of the offensive room.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: I didn't want him to determine how this team should
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: approach its offense. And I and I beat that trum
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: for a number of years until the point where Jerry
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: absolutely took himself out of that. You don't hire someone
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: as accomplished as Kevin Sitzer and then bring Edgar Martinez
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: back out of retirement again if you're gonna sit there
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: and fiddle with everything that they do and still try
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: to be a big voice about how the offense is
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: gonna operate in your organization. He handed that thing over
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: to those two guys, absolutely handed it over to them,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: and you're not getting the results you got him last year,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: but you're not getting the results from that one year later.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna I mean, Jerry's got some blame
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: in all of this, but I'm not gonna lay the
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: blame at the feet of a guy that you know,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: cleared his hands of the offense and handed it off
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: to two accomplished offensive mines and offensive coaches. I'm also
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: not gonna blame Jerry Depoto because cal Raley hit won
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: sixty this year. That's the biggest factor as to why
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: this team's seven games under five hundred. We all love
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: cal nobody more so than this show in the entire town.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: And yet his won sixty batting average and thirteen home
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: runs and twenty six runs scored. Do you realize how
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: paltry a number that is twenty six runs scored? A
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: part time player scores twenty six runs in a season
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: at this type of this and our aircraft carrier sixty
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: Homer cal No face of the franchise, superstar contract extension
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: that guy has scored twenty six runs this year. That
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: is impossible to believe. I'm not gonna blame Jerry to predict.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: Impossible to predict. You're absolutely right, Ashley, and I'm not
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: gonna blame Jerry for that. Should Jerry have traded cal
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: Raley this offseason, could you imagine burn the city down
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: had cal Raley been traded. But he's supposed to foresee
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: that happening. Josh Naylor got extended. We all wanted Josh
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: Naylor to be extended, right, yep. Hey, the organizations. The
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: organization identified Luis Castillo, Julio Rodriguez, cal Raleigh, Josh Naylor
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: and paid them, paid them market value for their services
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: to keep them as the nucleus of this team. And so,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: of course the organization doesn't wildly spend and should spend more.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: We all want them to do that, But the guys
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: that they chose to spend money on are probably the
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: biggest problem right now with the team in twenty twenty six.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: Josh Naylor was great the other night. He's the only
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: one that was great, But he was great the other night.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: But for the most part this season, he's been a
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: major disappointment. Cow's been a colossal disappointment, and Luis Castillo
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: had to spend most of the season trying to justify
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: his spot in the rotation. No, that's that's spending money.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: And yet those guys that you spent that money on
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: none of them stepped up. Julio has been better than
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: I hate to even lump Julio in with these other guys,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: he's been better than the other three and for most
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: of the season, but he's still not been the player
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: that we thought that he was going to be. And
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: so he's still not become the player that we all
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: think that he can become. Let's put it that way.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: So look, look, I don't know, I mean to me,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: the front office certainly take some blame in this, but
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: the players take the most blame. Where did you go?
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: Why did you play this way? And then who do
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: you blame? Or I'm not firing Cal Raley, I'm not
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: firing Josh Naylor. I'm not firing Julio Rodriguez. That'd be insanity.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: I'm not you know, I may have fired Luis Castillo,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: meaning I would have traded him, which I tried to
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: do the last couple of off seasons in my crystal
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: Ball fore casts. But I'm I'm certainly not going to
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: blame Jerry Depoto and Justin Hollander because Cal Raleigh, Josh Naylor,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: and Julio Rodriguez weren't the players that they should have
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: been this year. Those should have been three things that
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: you could have counted on this entire season. So if
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: I want to shake things up without disrupting all the
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: good slash great that this organization has going for it
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: right now, to me, that needle landed on Dan Wilson
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: because his job, Jerry and Justin's job is to give
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: us a roster that can win a World Series. That's
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: their job. And by all accounts, and I mean almost
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: all accounts, not all, almost all accounts national pundits, Las
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: Vegas me, it looked like it looked like we had
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: the roster to contend for a World Series this year. Yes,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: Jerry and Justin take on some blame for that. The
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: most blame goes to the players, not Dan Wilson, but
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: the middle ground and all of that is. I'm gonna
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: blame the coaches and the manager if I personally believe
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: that the roster should have gotten the job done this year,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: and it fell this far short. I'm not gonna blame
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: the front office. I'm gonna blame the coaches because their
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: job is to get the most out of the talent
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: that was provided. And my goodness, when you have this
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: many guys. We even had a Dom can Zone breakout
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: and a Cole Young breakout and an Emerson Hancock breakout
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: this year, and still because of the offensive woes this year,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: because most of the guys you were counting on, we're
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: either unhealthy and unavailable or just bad this season. Man,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: I'm blaming the players, but I'm gonna blame the coaches
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: more than I'm gonna blame the roster construction because I
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: believed in the roster construction at the time, and I
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: believe that the go between in between who we got
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: and can we get the most out of them that
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: rests more on the coaching staff than it does on
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: the front office. That's just where I sit. That's the
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: way I believe about it. And so no, I'm not
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: gonna call for Jerry's head this offseason or Justin's had
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: this offseason. But I have already gone on record as
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: to calling for Dan's job on this show. And I
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: would add if Kevin Seitzer doesn't make the flight to
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: New York. I understand why Ashley, because his job is
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: to get this team to hit. He's got proven veteran
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: players that can hit, and none of them have hit. Right.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: Thing is, there's so many people that are mad at
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: Jerry Well, he put this roster together. He did put
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: this roster together, and this roster should be performing better
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: than they're performing. So if you're not going to get
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: rid of all the players, which you're not gonna do,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: and the only other option is to get is to
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: get rid of the people who are in everyday contact
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: trying to help this team perform. And if his team
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: is underperforming, then you have to look at the people
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: are responsible for trying to get them to perform, and
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: that would be Dan and that would be his coaching staff.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: And I don't like to say that anyone should lose
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: their job, but I'm still in the same position of
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: saying I just don't know how you defend him keeping it.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: I understand the you know what Logan said, the players
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: love him. I think that's great.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: I love him.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: I grew up as a Mariners fan. The last thing
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: I would I want Dan to be a rousing success,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: but it's hard to look at this and think that
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: that's anything close to it.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, even ownership, which we all know they've got a
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: history of being cheap, we all know that. But even
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: what they did spend on those guys are not coming through.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: You know. I actually read an email or a tweet
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: going after Ryan Divish about how we should have never
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: got rid of Hora Polonko. Horiy Polonko's in one forty
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: this year and being paid twenty five million dollars a year.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you couldn't have had that on your payroll.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: It's that's worse than ref Snyder. So money, spending money,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: jobs of money might make you feel better, but it
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: doesn't solve anything. Juan Soto is making seventy million dollars
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: a year to play on the worst team in the
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: National League. Yeah he made a huge difference, didn't he.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, I want them to spend more, but I
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: also don't think this comes down on ownership because the
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: guys that they did spend on have been our most
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: disappointing players this season. So to me, if we're gonna
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: play some blame game, you know where mine goes, it
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: would be the players first. But then the coaches have
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: the responsibility to take the players that they're given and
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: make them better. Can anyone argue that the guys we
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: had on this roster were made better by their experience
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: here as a collective, some of them, No, Cole Young
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: got better, Dom Canzone got better. But I don't think
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: anybody can argue that Cal that our our players were
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  Speaker 2: better than they should have been. You know, yeah, And
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  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody can argue that those players that
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  Speaker 2: we kept were bad players. If you want to argue
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: for res Nider, fine, even though his history suggests otherwise.
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  Speaker 2: But Cal Raley, Josh Naylor, you all wanted them back.
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  Speaker 2: There would have been anarchy if we got rid of
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  Speaker 2: Cal Rawley, because Jerry should have seen that coming. In
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  Speaker 2: total anarchy. So that's where I'm at, and I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: be bullish about it for the rest of the sea
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  Speaker 2: in an end of the off season as well. Just
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  Speaker 2: Obviously we're not gonna blow it off, not with all
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  Speaker 2: this stuff to talk about.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: We left all of the letter p pus for Panela.
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  Speaker 2: What was your reaction when you saw Sweet Lou come
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  Speaker 2: out onto the field.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, I just loved it. I love him
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  Speaker 3: so much. I wanted him to kick some dirt or
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  Speaker 3: run over and grab a base and throw it.
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  Speaker 4: But I just loved seeing him.
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  Speaker 2: It was great, and it's so great, like like Junior
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  Speaker 2: even wanted to get over there and like hug him
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  Speaker 2: like that. I mean, he was a task master. He was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he was terrifying for goodness sake, and those
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  Speaker 2: hardest teachers that you had are always your favorites when
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  Speaker 2: you grow up. And maybe you didn't want, you know,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: mister Baker in the sixth grade, but he ended up
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  Speaker 2: he looked back on it like he was the best
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  Speaker 2: for me.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of the way it works. And Sweet Lou
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  Speaker 2: that's an interesting nickname for a guy that could be
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  Speaker 2: terrifying at times. But there's no denying how much all
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  Speaker 2: those players loved him, including Dan. I mean, it's it's
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  Speaker 2: very obvious. It's as obvious as the nose on your face. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's just great. Yah, Q is for quality. You know,
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  Speaker 2: if I will come down since you want me to
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: on Jerry Depoto and Justin Hollander. Man am I tired
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: of waiting around for the three run homer like this
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: time has no ability to create offense in any other
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  Speaker 2: way than to hit home runs, and Aaron brings it
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  Speaker 2: up every single game, And maybe you're right, maybe you're
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  Speaker 2: right to to bring it up during the course of
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  Speaker 2: the broadcast. But I'll tell you what. We've misfaced the
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  Speaker 2: team that hit more home runs than us this weekend,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: and that's not even part of their game plan. You know,
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  Speaker 2: they struck out nineteen times to our twenty six. They
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  Speaker 2: had fourteen hits yesterday without a single home run to
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: our four yesterday. They put the ball in play, they
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: put pressure on the defense. And I'm not saying that
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: you have to build your team that way. I think
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  Speaker 2: you should try to build it around power if you can.
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  Speaker 2: I realize the shortcut, the cheat code that a power
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  Speaker 2: hitting team has in this sport, and it probably does
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  Speaker 2: win in the playoffs. But I want to get to
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: the playoffs, and this team without the home run doesn't
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: seem to have an answer. Dan Wilson doesn't seem to
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: have another plan at all for scoring runs, and is
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: it due to roster construction or is it due to
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: you just only know how to wait around for the
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: three run homer and hope the pitching holds the team
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  Speaker 2: to two runs or more that particular day. But the
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee Brewers have been winning a lot of baseball games lately,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: and they do it in old school ways. They put
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: the ball in play, they run the bases hard, and
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  Speaker 2: that results in more offense than what we the waiting
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  Speaker 2: around for the three run homer team can create. And
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  Speaker 2: not just on a not just for the aggregate of
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  Speaker 2: the entire season either. I'm just talking from a day
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  Speaker 2: to day basis. I just think it gives you a
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  Speaker 2: better chance to be able to have more than one
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  Speaker 2: way to score runs. Does that not seem like it
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: would behoove the organization to either stack a few more
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: players like that or do a little more coaching that
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: lends itself to that sort of manufacture of runs. Because
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  Speaker 2: that's what the Rays did to us this weekend. That's
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: what the Brewers do for one hundred and sixty two
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  Speaker 2: games every year. And the Brewers seem to get into
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: the playoffs without any difficulty every single year. Now, once
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: they get to the playoffs, they're vulnerable because they can't
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  Speaker 2: hit the home run and they usually get knocked out
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  Speaker 2: in one round. But man, get into the playoffs every
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: damn year, and then we'll take our chances with whether
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: or not or pitching in our small ball on occasion
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about that's all I want to be
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  Speaker 2: as a small ball team, but on occasion that we
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: might be able to scratch out a playoff win with
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: small ball, that just all that says to me is
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: at least we're trying to scratch out a playoff win.
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  Speaker 4: I would love that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't. We have one way of winning. We
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: have one way of scoring runs on this team and
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: a manager that doesn't even try to do it any
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  Speaker 2: other way. I mean, we had a situation, what was
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: a Friday night cold Emerson. We had two guys on
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: and you could have bunted, and Emerson's shown that he
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: can bunt and he's hitting under two hundred, but nope,
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  Speaker 2: let's swing away.
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  Speaker 3: I mean same yesterday with Taylor Ward on the last
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: at bat. I mean we had two on and he's
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: you know, gets out of the warning track. I I
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: and it's I do think that I'm probably partly not
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: me personally, but fans and people like me who are
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: watching till the end, just like, well, all we need
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: is a three run home run.
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  Speaker 4: Here and we can win.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, because that's what happens in so many games.
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  Speaker 3: And I still continue to think that they can do it.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know why.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's one thing. If you're the Cleveland Indians,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: the Albert Bello Cleveland Indians, and you you got all
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: stars up and down your lineup, that one picks up
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: another guy on a nightly basis. That's not what this
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: team has been this season. And yet there's no adjustment
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: made and there never is. We just strike out a lot,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: hope to get a walk in a single and then
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: if a guy it's a three run omer, we got
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: a chance to win. And if he doesn't, then we
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: don't win. I mean, I'd like to see them become
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: a little more versatile in the offseason. Maybe bring in
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: just a couple of scrappers that just put the ball
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  Speaker 2: in play. That's what I want over waiting for our
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: nine guys in our lineup to maybe come through in
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: that one moment that you got two guys on base,
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: we had a three run in the seventh or we
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: don't score runs tonight. That's kind of the way it feels. Finally,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: R is for Rucker. I brought it up over the weekend,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: so I'm bringing it up now. I just I think
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: the most astonishing thing that I've watched this entire baseball
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: season is Dan Wilson's faith in Michael Rutger. Just astonishing.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: I put him in in a one run game the
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: other day. Yeah, and somebody threw some stats. I guess
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: he's had you know, I mean, I guess I know
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: he's had better stats than what for Air and Bizardo
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: have had. Place, right, but go one layer deeper, please,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: on all of these sports topics, go back and look
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: at it. Trust me, go back and look at it.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: Look at what his ERA is in games where you're
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: blowing people out, which is what he should be, is
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: a mop up guy. And then games where he's brought
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: into the game when it's close. The e R is
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: about seven in close games, and then it's about perfect
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: and mop up games. You know, he should not be
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: pitching in high leverage situations, and he's not. He doesn't
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: have the stuff, he's not accustomed to it. And obviously
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: when the when the pressure gets ramped up, he doesn't
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: perform as well.
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  Speaker 4: Sure doesn't seem like it.
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  Speaker 3: And I even was it yesterday when you win and
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: I go, oh good, it's Recer time.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he you know, he gave up two unearned runs.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: I get that. I get that. Had Brenda Donovan made
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: the play, then maybe he breezes through the inning. But
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: he also gave up three hits in the inning.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: It just it's just mind mind boggling to me that
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: he continues to be used. And and that's not a
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: fifth inning or sixth inning is not yet a high
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: leverage situation technically, But for a team struggling to score runs, man,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: you need a zero posted at that point. And maybe
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: for Aaron Bizardo can't get it done, but they at
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: least have a more of a track record of being
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: able to get it done than what he does. Yeah,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: and you ended up not even using for air in
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: the course of that day. And I would also point out,
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: let's go ahead and put it in here s is for spire.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: Do we really feel good about that now that he decided?
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, we could have used him this weekend. Do
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: we all agree with that?
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And we decided that now we had to exact revenge,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: and it cost our second best relief pitcher of the
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: weekend series, time and place. Time and Place fellas the
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: thing important right now is to get this team on
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: the right track, not to try to have teammates back
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: in a bean ball war. It's just not It wasn't
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: the appropriate time for it, and it did not unlock
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: some sort of special chemistry either. We haven't won since
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: it happened.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: No, I was hopeful that it sure did not. Yeah,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, we love the and it wasn't that moment.
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  Speaker 3: It was the whole game I thought was gonna mean
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: more and it didn't.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right, right, Yeah, but that I mean we
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: won that game where we have not won since.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 4: Because they cannot continue anything over.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, one last thing to close this out. Next.
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