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Patriots Unfiltered 8/29: 53-Man Roster Reaction, Jacoby Brissett Named Starter, State of the Patriots · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 2: All Right, Welcome the Patriots unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 2: at you Let's Stadium.
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  Speaker 3: Nailed it, Yeah, nailed it.
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  Speaker 2: I got the day right. So we're starting off on
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  Speaker 2: the right foot. It is deuced Paul Evan, myself, Matt
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  Speaker 2: and the booth and we're coming here after the big
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  Speaker 2: news broke this morning by Adam Schefter and in Rappaport
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  Speaker 2: that Jake Jake Jacoby Brissette jakeset Kobe Brissett is the
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  Speaker 2: starting quarterback for at least week one and probably for
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  Speaker 2: a few weeks after that anyway. And then Gerard Mayo
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  Speaker 2: came and addressed the media, uh and reiterated what the
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  Speaker 2: breaking news was for a couple of minutes. And now
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  Speaker 2: we know it's not a secret anymore. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: think anyone's surprised. I'm disappointed me too, but not surprised.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody.
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  Speaker 3: So what do we think, guys? I usually let Paul
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  Speaker 3: go first. That's why I was.
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  Speaker 4: I'm disappointed. If if you guys insist I was, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I had obviously this is the way it was trending,
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  Speaker 4: and this is what we all thought was going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: But you can hope to be wrong. And I was
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  Speaker 4: hoping I was wrong.
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  Speaker 3: I was.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to see May. I totally understand the reasoning,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the the you know, shortcomings of the rest
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  Speaker 4: of the offense, you know, offensive line and receivers and
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  Speaker 4: all that. But I thought that that May was making
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  Speaker 4: a lot of progress, and I thought he was pushing
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  Speaker 4: to play sooner than later. But I could be patient.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, unfortunate part now is you don't really get to
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  Speaker 5: see May anymore, like until he gets a start, if
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  Speaker 5: he gets to start, you know, like that, that's what's
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  Speaker 5: disappointing to me. Well, it was fun watching We're all
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  Speaker 5: working on our Drake Maine impressions. As you might be
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  Speaker 5: able to.
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  Speaker 4: Tell, Mike will have the best one because he's better
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  Speaker 4: at it.
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  Speaker 5: And intensely he does. He doesn't do that and intensely
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  Speaker 5: it kind of throws.
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  Speaker 3: Me off and I'm asking him a question because he
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  Speaker 3: stares at me like just like that. Yeah, not a
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  Speaker 3: big deal.
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  Speaker 5: At all, but it just so that that was Look,
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  Speaker 5: that was the funnest part of the summer, right, watching
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  Speaker 5: him play and develop and stuff. So no, we don't
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  Speaker 5: we don't get to watch practice anyway. So I guess
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  Speaker 5: it's not that big of a deal. But but that's
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  Speaker 5: what you're not gonna Se're gonna seehim on the sidelines
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  Speaker 5: now or maybe some mop up team time when the
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  Speaker 5: Patriots are blowing teams out and you know you just
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  Speaker 5: have to wait for those.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I was pretty fired up after the press conference. I'm
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  Speaker 3: not gonna lie I was, and then I you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's good that we had a couple of hours to
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  Speaker 3: kind of let it take a maatgerate but before we
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  Speaker 3: came on the show, because really, at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the day, the reasons why I was mad had absolutely
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  Speaker 3: nothing to do with football, and they were all selfish
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  Speaker 3: and you're gonna hear a lot of that today. I
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  Speaker 3: am sure that there's gonna be critiques of the press
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  Speaker 3: conference and how it was handled and the whole situation,
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  Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, none of that
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  Speaker 3: really matters, and it was the right football decision to
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  Speaker 3: start the season off with Jakobe were set. The one
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  Speaker 3: thing that didn't make me feel great, and I understand
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  Speaker 3: he kind of had to say it was him saying
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  Speaker 3: for the season and then kind of doubling down on that.
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  Speaker 3: I just felt like it was sort of ignoring the
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  Speaker 3: elephant in the room, What would.
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  Speaker 2: What would be the better way to explain it.
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  Speaker 3: That Jacoby breseets our quarterback for now, for.
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  Speaker 4: Now, and we'll just say he's our quarterback. He's our quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: But I understand why he wanted to put his support
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  Speaker 3: behind Jacoby. But you drafted Drake May third overall for
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  Speaker 3: a reason, and he has even to all of us
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  Speaker 3: that he should play this season. Like, I don't think
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  Speaker 3: we're in the red shirt ear conversation anymore with Drake May,
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  Speaker 3: So that piece of it makes me worried that they
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  Speaker 3: might look at that piece of it a little bit different. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, even yesterday when he wasn't telling us what
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  Speaker 2: he was going to do, he kind of did when
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  Speaker 2: he said what's good right now may not be good
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  Speaker 2: a few weeks from now, right Yeah, you know, so
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  Speaker 2: who I guess he could be talking about other positions,
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  Speaker 2: but I think we all assume he's talking about the quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: That's how I took that yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: And I feel like he can't lose. It's like they're
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  Speaker 5: either gonna win with Jacoby Brissett or you're gonna get
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  Speaker 5: to see Drake May right. I mean, I know there'll
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  Speaker 5: be some timing, but generally that's yeah. I mean, they's
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  Speaker 5: not gonna keep rolling Jacoby Brissett out and they're terrible.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I mean that will be the only really
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  Speaker 5: bad case in right.
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  Speaker 3: But like, barring them being four or five and zero,
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  Speaker 3: you're still going to Drake May when he's ready like that.
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  Speaker 3: That's sort of where I I you know, Ryan Fitzpatrick
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  Speaker 3: was I think three and three with Miami something like that,
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  Speaker 3: and they were in the hunt and they were playing
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  Speaker 3: pretty well, and they still made the change to Tua, right,
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  Speaker 3: And I just feel like that's that's the one thing
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  Speaker 3: that I was a little bit dead the decision was
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  Speaker 3: was we all could have seen that coming from a
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  Speaker 3: mile away that day we're gonna name Jacobe with the starter,
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  Speaker 3: But it just feels to me like you have to
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  Speaker 3: acknowledge the fact that Drake is still the future of
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  Speaker 3: this team. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing I would say that I disagree a
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  Speaker 2: little bit, at least for me personally. I didn't see
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  Speaker 2: it a mile away. I thought there was a good
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  Speaker 2: chance that they were gonna tell us that Drake May
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  Speaker 2: was going to start Week one.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but we were just out there.
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  Speaker 3: I practice it all summer long, and it never wavered.
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  Speaker 4: You're not giving up yet, are you?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: I was still in play. They haven't played yet.
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  Speaker 3: That's true.
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  Speaker 4: I know, I know how you operate.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 4: That's true.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, not wrong until you're wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, mathematically out of it ye, yeah, they still have
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  Speaker 2: day left. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it never waivered. Like even Jacoby said it after
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  Speaker 3: when we talked to him in the locker room. He
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  Speaker 3: was with the ones all summer, Drake said it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he's taken one's.
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  Speaker 2: You're right. And the question I have now is now
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  Speaker 2: that Jacoby is going to be the starter, he's going
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  Speaker 2: to get the reps this week to get ready for Cincinnati,
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  Speaker 2: how do you give May enough preach, you know, during
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  Speaker 2: the season now where you're getting ready every week for
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  Speaker 2: another team, where you know, okay, now's the time.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what they asked him in the locker room today,
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  Speaker 5: was you know, what's your kind of plan now? I
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  Speaker 5: mean it's I mean he clearly didn't have a firm answer.
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  Speaker 5: He talked about some scout team reps and you know,
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  Speaker 5: working with some of the younger players and trying to
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  Speaker 5: help them develop and you know, making the most of
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  Speaker 5: his second team opportunities. So I I mean, it's a
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  Speaker 5: great question, and especially if they care about him as
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  Speaker 5: much as we think that they should, like he needs
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  Speaker 5: to be developed. Still, it can't just be and now
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  Speaker 5: Drake goes in, like you would hope that there's going
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  Speaker 5: to be some real competitive chances to get him in
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  Speaker 5: and really try.
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  Speaker 4: And I think there will be. I think they'll probably
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  Speaker 4: do stuff. Let's you know, and I hate talking like
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  Speaker 4: this because it sounds so negative and defeatist, but let's
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  Speaker 4: sort of try to be as realistic as possible. Like,
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  Speaker 4: let's say it doesn't get off to a great start,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't know how many weeks that would be.
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  Speaker 4: You know, let's just say four, because I think you
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  Speaker 4: break it up into quarters. Let's they're one in three
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  Speaker 4: or zero and four or something. You know, at some
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  Speaker 4: point that's gonna say to them, Okay, you know this
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  Speaker 4: isn't working. We're gonna need to go to the rookie.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think, as Mike said, you can just say, Okay, Drake,
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  Speaker 4: may you're starting this week. No, you need to treat
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  Speaker 4: the week. You know, at some point, like Brissette gets
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  Speaker 4: some of the reps and may get some of the reps,
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  Speaker 4: and it's a process. And maybe you do that for
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  Speaker 4: a week or two and then you prepare May for
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  Speaker 4: the whole week and he starts like, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if that's week five, I don't know if it's week eight.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what week it is. Yeah, but you
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  Speaker 4: can't just say it's percent percent percent getting all the
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  Speaker 4: first team reps and then okay, it's not working with him.
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  Speaker 4: May's in there this week. You have to get him
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  Speaker 4: reps too.
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  Speaker 5: I practice advocate putting May in in games that are
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  Speaker 5: not really you know, I'm not saying that they're getting
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  Speaker 5: blown out, but.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, let's just that people say San Francisco, like, let's
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  Speaker 4: say the second half goes the way that a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people think it's going to go. Does he get
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  Speaker 4: his feet wet there and then start the next week.
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  Speaker 2: I was just about to say, you know, could we
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  Speaker 2: be maybe we're being thrown the biggest curveball at all
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  Speaker 2: where yes, Jacoby's our starter, but we're going to find
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  Speaker 2: spots to put May in during games. Yeah, not necessarily
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  Speaker 2: a platoon like first half second half Michigan did with Brady.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't see that, you know, I'm not telling you, well,
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  Speaker 4: that's different.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, well far betch.
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  Speaker 2: But let's let's just say you're playing Cincinnati and you
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  Speaker 2: get to the second half and it's three nothing. They're
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  Speaker 2: winning and our defense is doing good. All we're going
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  Speaker 2: to do is score a couple of touchdowns. We can
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  Speaker 2: win this game. But Jacoby is not doing anything.
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  Speaker 3: Is there a chance? Is there a chance?
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  Speaker 5: I don't think there is, But I think about that
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  Speaker 5: happening here, and I imagine that there's gonna be some
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  Speaker 5: fans that are going to be chanting just like that,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I mean that that's going to probably start
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  Speaker 5: to build. Is I think that That's what I'm looking for.
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  Speaker 5: Is the season goes on, it's how does the the
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  Speaker 5: you know, the roar build for the fans of wanting
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  Speaker 5: to see him, Like how ineffective or effective is the offense?
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  Speaker 5: If the offense is really ineffective and the defense is
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  Speaker 5: keeping a minute like they had the last couple of years,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I can easily see.
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  Speaker 2: A situation, no doubt, if the if the offense is
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  Speaker 2: spark and the defense is playing fairly well and they're
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  Speaker 2: at home, the Drake may chance will be audible.
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  Speaker 3: I honestly I'm sure that that will happen, but I
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  Speaker 3: almost feel like I would be clamoring for him more
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  Speaker 3: if it was going well. Because if it's if the
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  Speaker 3: protection isn't terrible and this offensive line is coming together
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  Speaker 3: and it's not as terrible as we all gone well
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  Speaker 3: on the scoreboard, it doesn't it's irrelevant to No, it
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  Speaker 3: isn't it is because I think if they're scoring points,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think people will be that impatient. I would
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  Speaker 3: say that people like me that are Drake may guys
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  Speaker 3: will say, well, it'd be even better if you have
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  Speaker 3: Drake No.
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  Speaker 2: But but you hear what I'm saying, like, if there's
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  Speaker 2: scoring points that it's like, Okay, he's seeing the offense,
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  Speaker 2: he's you know, doing that whole learning from the bench
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  Speaker 2: thing and and all that. I don't think it's people
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  Speaker 2: would be as impatient if, like in my scenario where
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  Speaker 2: we just can't score points and the defense is keeping
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  Speaker 2: us in games again and it's just not fair. I
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  Speaker 2: hear what you're Let's give the offense a chance. And
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  Speaker 2: I feel bad for Jacoby Brissett that we're talking this way,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, but if.
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  Speaker 3: The offense is a train wreck and they're not scoring
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  Speaker 3: points and Jacoby's under siege and he can't get the
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  Speaker 3: ball off. Why would you want to put Drake May
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  Speaker 3: into that situation? Well, again, you.
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  Speaker 2: Have to have context. Why is he under siege? Is
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  Speaker 2: the under siege because he's not making decisions?
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Like, you know what, like a better quarterback can sometimes
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  Speaker 2: help the offensive line.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would just be for me, I would just
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  Speaker 3: be much more inclined to put Drake May in there
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  Speaker 3: if it actually looks better than what we thought it was.
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  Speaker 2: So the offense is a little bit more ready for me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I get what you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: And I think if that was the case, maybe there'd
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  Speaker 2: be more of a push to start in week one
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  Speaker 2: if it looked good. So let me let's let's hit
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  Speaker 2: on that topic a little bit. This morning, I'm listening
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  Speaker 2: to one of Paul's shows and Michael Holly was the
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  Speaker 2: fill in host, and he was he was on the
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  Speaker 2: side where everybody else on the show was, you know,
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  Speaker 2: this offensive line is the worst in the league. It's
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  Speaker 2: a train wreck. Blah blah blah. He was saying, Listen,
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  Speaker 2: it's not that bad. Washington looked bad obviously, because but
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  Speaker 2: it was mistakes. It wasn't that they couldn't block anyone.
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  Speaker 2: It said they were making stupid mistakes. They have enough talent.
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  Speaker 2: This is his words, that they can block people. David
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  Speaker 2: Andrews can block people, Big Mike can block people. You know,
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  Speaker 2: even Leyden Robinson Waiting has the talent to block people.
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  Speaker 2: He said, it's not that bad, you know.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't think it was that bad against Washington
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  Speaker 4: other than all the obvious mistakes with the penalties, right,
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  Speaker 4: it was that bad against Philadelphia and.
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  Speaker 2: The joint practice, Oh yeah, no doubt.
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  Speaker 4: When the only time they played against starters it was
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  Speaker 4: a trainer. I think it was fourteen sacks. Yeah, like
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  Speaker 4: they couldn't block. It wasn't just mistakes. I agreed with
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  Speaker 4: the panel in that discussion. Not Michael.
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  Speaker 5: I got another good view of that. The Eagles put
• 13:35
  Speaker 5: out this whole, like fifteen minute video of their whole
• 13:38
  Speaker 5: preseason in training camp, and they had some video from
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  Speaker 5: training camp with Brandon Graham miked up and chirping the
• 13:43
  Speaker 5: whole time of the Patriots. It was just interesting we
• 13:45
  Speaker 5: put out our video of miked up. I think Peppers
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  Speaker 5: was micd up, but getting to see Brondon Grahm chirping
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  Speaker 5: at everybody, and he had a couple flying off the
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  Speaker 5: edge and oh, I got you know, the same thing
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  Speaker 5: Pep had. It's just interesting. But yeah, I agree with Paul.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's why I just want to
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  Speaker 5: get going, like I just want to get a game, like,
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  Speaker 5: let's just get one under our belt. That's why I
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  Speaker 5: was okay with Jacobe. Let's see what these real problems are.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, if those two guys off the edges are
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  Speaker 5: you know, cousin havoc against our tackles as a Hendrickson.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm with you to an extent, Fred Pubber, I'm
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  Speaker 4: not sure how good it is, but you can play
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  Speaker 4: like this is. They are NFL players and they can
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  Speaker 4: play the game like it's not all fill ins. Like
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  Speaker 4: to your point, Andrews in a one ye will be
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  Speaker 4: out there. I don't know who the other three will
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  Speaker 4: be right now, because I know, like like Girodmeo yesterday
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  Speaker 4: said that it looks like Citiso avoided a serious injury.
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  Speaker 4: That doesn't mean he's gonna be able to play right
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  Speaker 4: against Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 3: He hasn't been practicing, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And Vederian Lowe, you know, is not Pradon. So I
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  Speaker 4: don't know who's actually going to be out there, but
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  Speaker 4: if it's chokes A Kora four, yeah, we don't think
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  Speaker 4: he's played all that well, but he's an NFL player,
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  Speaker 4: they should you know, I don't anticipate this being like
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  Speaker 4: one of those ten sacks games that man, this was embarrassing, right,
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  Speaker 4: So I'm sort of in the middle. I don't necessarily
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  Speaker 4: think it's just gonna be fine. Yeah, but I also
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  Speaker 4: don't think it's gonna be completely derailed. You can't run
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  Speaker 4: an offense because your offensive line couldn't run.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, third and lungs to be scary, Like, I think
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  Speaker 5: that's you know where you're gonna get concerned.
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  Speaker 4: You're gonna get a lot of screens.
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  Speaker 5: But then that's that was the other point I was
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: gonna make is that they're gonna they're gonna try to
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: avoid their weaknesses and they're gonna try to attack the other,
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: you know, the defense's weaknesses. So how does it all
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: come together? You know, it's just it's such a you know,
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: there's a chemistry to it that you don't really have
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: any idea of. And that's every NFL team right now.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: It's you know, last year, they used a lot of
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: screens and quick passes and they just didn't work that well.
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was another reason to me, like not the
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: main reason to maybe not go with Drake may to
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: start the year, because putting him out there to throw
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: screens in quick game is it's not helping him develop.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: Like it's just, yes, that might be how they need
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: to win games right now, but that's not you know,
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: him reading defenses and going through progressions and you know.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: Doing all that kind of stuff.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: So how valuable are those types of reps really if
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: you are an offense that is just focused on scheming
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: to avoid pressure, Like that's literally all you're able to
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: do offensively. Is like what we've seen in the last
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: couple of years. The tape against Washington was better than
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: I thought it was watching live. That's not to say
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: it was good with the offensive line against the Commanders,
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: but watching live, I felt like the Eagles joint practice
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: where I was like this was felt like the quarterbacks
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: were under siege, like Jacobe gets hurt like instantly on
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: you know, how can you say it's a good game
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: when the starting quarterback is already injured from playing behind
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: this line? When you watched it back. They were under
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: pressure on seven of their twenty six dropbacks between Brissett
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: and May. That's not terrible. That's that's not terrible. But
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: a penalties and quarterbacks.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: They're yeah, they're non starters.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: So that's why I'm just over the qualifiers the preseason
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: and who was playing and who wasn't. It's like, let's
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: just get real concrete information. There ones are ones. It's
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: a real game. There's tackling to the ground, the whole deal,
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: you know. And then that Monday you say, all right,
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: this is what it's this is where we're starting from,
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: and all.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Right, we should go over some of the personal moves
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: guys coming and going, uh, Mike do.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: So I did?
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: I did color coded, So there was there was a
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: bunch of movement to be well, I guess we didn't
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: even run down the four guys that they signed off waivers,
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: which was Trey Jacobs. Is that right, Evan?
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: You talked to Tray Trey Jacobs as well as Zachary Thomas,
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: and then they signed Eric Johnson, a linebacker, as well
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: as one.
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: More where's the last one?
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: Curtis Jacobs.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: Curtis Jacobs and Eric Johnson Yeah, the two defense, So
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: two guys on defense, two offensive linemen. Jacobs is a tackle.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: I was watching some of him. He played some left
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: tackle for Denver and then Tom there you go, Polly Uh.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: And then reportedly they've signed h Bryan Hudson, a center
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: who was with Detroit in training kids.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: That sounds like a practice squad.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: Practice practice squad, practice squad guy. And it does look
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: like the guys that they released yesterday, which included Jalenrager.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: Kind of surprised a little bit on him being one
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: of the release guys. Isaiah. We don't know about Isaiah
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Olden yet. We're still waiting to hear on him. But
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: Jalen Rager is back, as well as Uh.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: Tristan Tristan hill Reger, and Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan, they
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: were all in the locker room. We don't know what
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: their status will be.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Yea practice on the practice squad.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's gonna be a disappointing conversation for somebody like
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: you know, Rager, especially who kind of signs. We all
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: kind of felt like, I mean, I felt like you
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: would make it over Booty, but maybe Age at the
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: end of the day, maybe it's you know, a little
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: bit un potential.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: So I just like I had a and I don't
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: know if this is right, but my theory on that
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: was the four guys they released, Tristan Hill, Jalen Rager,
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: Michael Jordan, the three of them, they don't have to
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: clear waivers. Yeah, they're all veterans, so you can release
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: them and you can say we have plans for you
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: stick around. We got to wait and then, you know,
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: sometimes that happens like Brian Hoyer did that, you know,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: one year, and I think the Colts gave him ten
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: million dollars so he signed with with the Colts and
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: he ended up leaving. But Bolden would be the only
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: one of those four guys that had to clear waivers, correct,
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: So I think if they had put Booty, you know,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: if it was rigor over Booty might to you a point.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Now you got to worry about the waiver process. Maybe
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: he clears, and I don't know, but just you know,
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: second year receiver, maybe he doesn't. Maybe someone's you know,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: looking for wide receiver depth and they take a shot
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: at him, whereas they're not necessarily doing that with Reger,
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: who they're going to have to give some money to
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: because otherwise he's just going to stay here where he's
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: already comfortable.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Mike, you mentioned, you know, it might have been a
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: you know, a difficult conversation, and you know made me think, Paul,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: you were talking, we were talking earlier last night, the
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Patriots had their Premiere, which is their you know, main
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: fundraising event where everybody comes. It's a mandatory event for
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: all the players and coaches to attend. And you know,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Gerard get introduced by Devin mccordy, who was the MC.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: And you know, Devin was kind of making fun of
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Gerard a little bit because he was kind of walking
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: slow getting up there. And you mentioned and I kind
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: of agree, like, I'll bet you this was a tough
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: week for Gerard Mail. You know, forget about just making
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: the starting quarterback decision, but having to make all these
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: first time that, you know, having to look guys in
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: the face who worked their butts off all, you know,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: since the spring and say you know, you're you're not
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: good enough to make the team. I'll bet you that
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: was tough for him, having you know, done it the
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: first time. I'll bet you that he insisted on doing
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: it himself, you know, so I bet you that kind
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: of war on him over the week.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: It seemed like yesterday and yesterday's press conference that was
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: almost the tone. Like the way he came up, I
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: think was like, good afternoon, it's still you were like, yeah,
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: you can tell it's you know, it's tough, and I mean,
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: let's face it, as we said on last year, i mean, yeah,
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: you're the rubbers meeting the road now in terms of
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: being an NFL head coach and everything that comes with
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: that and all the hard decisions and all the responsibility
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: that lands with you that you made these decisions and
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: when you say things and what you don't say and
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: all those things. Just you know, it's a it's a
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: constant battle for these guys, and I think they're probably
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: excited to just get away from all these decisions and
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: get into the regular season, like we said, and you know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: and then it's about the games, and I mean, who
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: knows what it's going to be like, but you know,
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: then you just kind of focus on, right, we're on
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: this game, and then you know we're onto Cincinnati, that
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: old thing. So but yeah, I agree totally. I mean,
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: this is this is it. I mean, it's a really
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: really hard job. There's a reason why, you know, it's
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: it's you're at the forefront of this whole organization making
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: decisions and he's new at it.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely seemed like yesterday because somebody asked him,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: why didn't you just tell the team yesterday about the
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: starting quarterback decision, because he said he had already made
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: the decision, and it I thought he was genuine when
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: he said, this has been kind of an hectic morning,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: like this has not been all sunshines and rainbows for
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: me the last twenty four hours, and I kind of
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: seemed like you wanted to just take a breath for
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: a second and just reset from move from cuts to.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Now, you know, worrying about who's starting.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: And it's not like he can just like go over
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: the speakerphone and say, you know, like in school, all right,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: we're going to have a class assembly now and everybody gather.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: You know, it's there's a little bit more to it,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: so you know, we had to get everybody in one
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: place and tell everybody in person. So you're involved in
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: making all these cuts at the same time. So this
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: was probably, you know, the first big thing where Gerard said, oh,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: you know, this is being a head coach.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: In the NFL.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: It's moving part.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there could be a lot of things happening at
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: the same time, so you know, for what that's worth.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: You know, a lot of people criticize how it was
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: handled today. I thought it was infit efficient, but you know,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: who knows what's going on behind the scenes. You know,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I'm sure this was a lot for a first time
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: head coach today.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said earlier, if you were if you're
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: critiquing them for that, then you're just being selfish. Yeah,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: like you're just mad that you like selfish. Like I'm
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: fully selfish too.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: If we're gonna leak it, I'd rather have Patriots dot
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Com leak it than Adam Schefter. But I get how
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: that works. I get how it works. But all I
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: can say is once it leaked, and just send out
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: a tweet that this is the decision. You don't need
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: to have a press conference after that.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was good that we got to go in
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: and talk to Jakobe and Drake, both of those guys
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: in the locker room right after. So it's a little
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: bit of this new setup now where you know the
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: guys are Actually it's going to.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Be a problem right before.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Why that they're that May and Brissett's locker are right
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: next to each other. You're gonna have the media always
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: over there. It's gonna be tough for those two guys.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: My guess is, Well, the starting quarterback, my guess will
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: go on Wednesdays in the media work room like they
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: always tap down, So you're not really dealing with one
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: of those guys, I guess. So now to your point,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: the backup is going to be a story.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Right, They're going to go to after him every game.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: The backup is going to be a story.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: They got to go to Drake and be like, so
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: pretty rough game for the offense on Kobe's like time.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: But even if it's May starting or sets a story.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one of those things where Bill Bill
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: would never let Drake May talk right now, right Drake
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: May would be you know, Aaron would be running after me. No, no,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: you know right like there, No Drake May until he's
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: starting would be the rule. And now we'll see if
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: they're that strict about it, because I would be like,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: there's all he's going to say is going to hurt himself.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: There's no good that's going to come from him talking.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know, what do you mean.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: No, I don't know. I don't know if that works.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Not letting him talk or letting him talk, not.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: Letting him talk. Like I heard like people and I
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: know what it different to you a point, like it's
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: different with a rookie, Like part of it is that
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: he's a rookie, and I get that, But like I
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: heard an argument on the radio, the Patriots botched this
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: whole Matthew Judon thing because they let him talk, And
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: I'm like, who the f of the Patriot like to say,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: who can talk? Like Matthew Judon is a veteran in
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: this league, like you think Gered Mayo had the ability
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: to say you can't talk right now. Again, I know
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: it's different with a veteran as opposed to a rookie,
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: but I don't think that's a road you want to
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: be going down.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Well, particularly a guy like that. But I think with
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: a rookie, Bill would say you're not talking.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: You know, keep a lid on it for a little bit,
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Like you're not talking is different than keep a lid
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: on it.
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: He intimidated the players for the most part, to not
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: not talk. But I don't think that's the way they
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: want to do business. I don't think that's the way
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: Mayo wants to go about this. I agree, and I
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: think that if you just say don't talk, I don't
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: think that works.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Well, he's not required to talk, like during training camp,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Judon's required like they're required to make Judne available.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Players are required to be available.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: They are, but he's a Drake would be required to
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: be available during the week after games if you don't
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: in the game.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, like that. Yeah, I'm not talking necessarily
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: after a game. But their response there they are required
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: to be available.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: That's the whole h On Lynch thing. Like I'm just
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: here so I don't get fined, right, Like there's there
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: is a minimum requirement. Now, no one here, no one
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: in well. I don't think no one in this media
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: corps is gonna call someone out and say, like, listen,
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: I've been in the locker room every day and uh,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: you know, I haven't seen Leyden Robinson, Jimmy Collins since
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: the first since the first week. I don't think people
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: are going.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: To do that, but they will if it's Drake may
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: But I do.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Think that people are going to want to talk to
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Drake May. Yeah, pick, I don't. I don't think you
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: can just blanket. I totally get the point, but I
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: don't think you can just blank it tell someone you
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: can't talk.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like slippery slow build.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: Bill definitely intimidated people, you know, the players into sort
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: of being careful, especially the young guys. I don't think
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: that's the case anymore, that it would.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Be our suggestion to you that you do not speak.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: You know, we wouldn't went on anything to happen.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: You know, why are you doing? Because we can just
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: make fun of Italians every time we want morel You
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: heard them, just.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Mob guys, mob guys.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Oh so now all Italians mobbed up.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I didn't say that, you did.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: I didn't say that.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, got it.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Let's be honest.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: That's it.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: That's fine. You like Goodfellas, you like that movie.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: I do like good Fellas. It's a good movie.
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: Good oil Boys, Get Jump.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Doesn't insult you good Fellas.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: No, it's good movie.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: All right. Web radio at pages dot com is the
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: email address eight five five pass five hundred is the
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: a stick and hotline? What else do we have? Anything else?
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Before we talked about personnel, we talked about the quarterback decision.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: People care about the practice squad doing care. I don't
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: think we well Mike cares well, I'm glad Jennings because
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: we didn't. But we didn't have that on Tuesday, right, Yeah,
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: these are show we like to be the show of record.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think the official ones that were signed
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: Terrell Jennings, Matt Landers, Mitchell Willcox, Liam Fournette, Dell, Kevin Harris,
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: A J. Thomas, and then we're assuming Brian Hudson and
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: Jalen Rager, Tristan Hill and maybe Bolden who.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: Was one more, and there was seven guys that they officially.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: Jatham Russell as well.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I was thinking about, you know, I know it's not fair,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: but how things have changed where none of our guys
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: who got released were picked up by another team and
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: we picked up four players on waivers. You know that
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: used to not be the way, right.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Well, the four players is a lot. Yeah, looks for Carolina.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a little surprised about four players and like,
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: no offense meant whatsoever to Eric Johnson, But like, is
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Eric Johnson really better than Tristan Hill? Like, is that
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: that's really like a player? You felt like that's an upgrade,
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: like he's played a little bit more in the league maybe,
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: so like there's a little bit more experience there. But
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: we're not talking about one of these veteran guys that
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: was a cap casualty someplace else that has something left
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: in the tank, like or anything like that. I those ones,
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know. They obviously see something in him, but
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: it was like you're kind of moving the deck chairs.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: You guys know these rules, I think a little bit
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: better than I do. Like, so the practice squad elevations,
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: yes to a game, So how many is a player allowed?
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Three?
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: So can you elevate Tristan Hill to the active roster
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: the first three weeks of the season and then at
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: that point if you yeah, you know, because the guys
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: I should point out the guys that are on that
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: would claim no waivers, the four you know, the two
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Jacobs and Johnson and who's the.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Other guy I don't know, Zach Thomas.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Zach Thomas's I forget of fame linebacker.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Linebacker.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: So those four guys are required to remain on the
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Patriots active roster for at least three weeks, yes, so
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: they don't have to be active for the game. They
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: just have to be on the active roster, so they
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: could be game day in actives. And to Evan's point,
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: is Tristan Hill probably in a better position to help
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: the team right now than Eric Johnson. So can you
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: have Eric Johnson one of the inactives and elevate Tristan
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Hill from the practice squad? Probably can do that. Probably
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: can do that until you're sort of determining what those
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: guys can do.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was thinking now with the wide receivers as well.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Reager active, Javon Baker inactive, correct as an example.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: And I wanted to bring that up because just like
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: every year we do this with the receivers. Last year
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: it was Keasehawan Boody that healthy scratch every single week
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: got people up in arms.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Baker.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: There's a chance that we that Javon Baker is healthy scratch.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: There's a chance that Baker and Booty could be unactive.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Sure, and Jalen Raager elevated to return kicks activated,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: you know, as more like a return man than anything,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: And that would be I wouldn't be surprised.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Like I would say, you know, based on what we've
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: seen in the practice. You know, Polk Douglas, Thornton, and
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: Osborne will be active. Yeah in Week one. Barring an
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: injury between now and then, those four guys will I
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: would be pretty comfortable saying they'll be active after that.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, maybe you have a fifth guy active, maybe
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: maybe the other guys are inactive.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: You know, we were talking about the foot. The football
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: decision of making may Ja Kobe the starting quarterback is
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: a good one. You know, it's hard to argue with
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: the football reasoning behind that considering the state of the offense.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: And to further I think emphasize that is, do we
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: know who the best receiver on this team is right now?
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Who don't like in terms of.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Like, oh he's a w R one, like no, forget
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: about but who's the I have a guy that I
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: would pick, but I don't know who it is, right,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, I would say Douglas, but I don't know.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Doesn't that further illustrate the fact that we have no
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: idea what this offense is and we have no idea
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: if we started may what we would be inserting him into.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not just even it's that and they don't
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: know how they're going to move the ball, right.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: That doesn't make sense. You know, I'm kidding.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: I'm kidding inside Joe.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, they don't even know how they're going to move
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: the ball right now?
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: Like what are you good at?
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Right you know? Who are your go to guys? You know,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: how are you going to run the ball? Are you
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: going to be able to run the ball? Exactly? Like
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: they don't know any of these things. And uh, you know,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: I look at the first month of the season for
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Alex van Pell like this is a information gathering time
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: frame right now, where when you get Drake May in there,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: you better know what your identity is offense, Like how
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: are we going to move the ball, how are we
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: going to score points? What are we good at? Like
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: you don't know any of those things right now.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Only there's two things I know. David Andrews can play center,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: and Remandre Stevenson is a good running back.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: That's pretty much like.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: If I were to speculate, though, I think the tight
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: ends are going to be heavily involved. I think those two,
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: you know, it seems like Henry's back at practice and
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: him and Hooper and you know running the ball with
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: Ramandre and Gibson, like those four guys, like even just
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: kind of leaving the wide receivers out of it. I
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: think that those four guys are really big parts of
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: their plan, and well, yeah, they're gonna have to try
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: to supplement in the receivers and hope that you know
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: those guys are are.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, we know who the people who are going to
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: be involved, but we don't know like what it's going
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: to look like. I mean, is Hunter Henry going.
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: To play a week one he's back out there?
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I don't know. You know, you would
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: hope that he is, because at least we have a
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: little bit of a record of what he looks like,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: but we don't know what he looks like in this offense.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: Right, But you do know with Hooper a little bit,
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: and I think he's he was a lot more effective
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: I thought this summer than I thought he might be.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: It's hard to take the cheese on a t E
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: two again. I know we've been doing that the last
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: few seasons with those guys, But I just think those
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: guys are gonna be kind of the engine to this
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: to this offense more so than the receivers, at least
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: early on, and you hope they can get to a
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: place where those receivers can be an engine to them.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: But I think he really trusts Hooper. I think he
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: trusts Henry, and I think those are the guys he's
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: he's really going to be looking to the most.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. I feel like those guys getting targeted
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: further down the field in this offense than maybe the
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: past Patriots offenses where they were kind of just chain
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: movers and that sort of thing. You saw a lot
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: of you know, slot fade seam type things, crossing routes
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: like stuff off of play action. That's gonna get those
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: guys more involved in the explosives instead of just you know,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: it's third and six and we need seven yards out
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: of hunter.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: Henry, Hey, how was your responses? I liked your tweet
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: yesterday with Taekwon Thornton of like, you know, Evan put
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: a little cut up of just you know, like Taekwon
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: creating some separation downfield various plays got the pre which
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: seems like that's like you throw.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: It in and run. I like the like couple of
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: people that he's not opening any of these clips, like okay,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: ball noverall he's.
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: The only is that your bio?
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: That's good?
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: I know, Ball go learn nowhere, go learn what NFL opens.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: This isn't this is in high school where like, guys
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: are ten yards of separation, right.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Uh, let's go line eight five five pass five hundred.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Brad's in Ohio. What's up, Brad?
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: Hey, guys? How are you doing this morning?
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: Pretty good?
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: Good?
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: Interesting?
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, always good information. It's good to see you all
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: and doing well and stuff and the cups from football,
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: but that's even better.
• 35:49
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: So that being said, just a couple of thoughts I have,
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: in my opinion, our best case scenario would that Jacoby
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: comes out, wins two games and then we lose four
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: in a row. I know that sounds hypothetical, but that
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: would kind of culminate in whether Alex van Pelt would
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: under would feel like the offensive Taylor could be tailored
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: more to Drake with RPOs by then, you know, knowing
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: how our offensive line would play and the receivers have
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: done up to that point. So like week eight, maybe
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: it's my first dot, And then what reason would it
• 36:37
  Speaker 7: be for the change? Do you think would it be
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: Jacoby's back quarterback play? Alex Van Pelt ready for the
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: playmaker at quarterback given his offense and the players around him,
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: or there's a better Yeah, there's a better or expected
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: chance for the wide receivers and the line to be better,
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: or all the above.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean any or all of the
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: above could be Brad, And thanks for the call. I
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: mean what will what will you know? Why will the
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: change be made? The first thing is, well, Drake's ready,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: because that's what we're waiting for. But that goes back
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: to our earlier conversation. How are they going to get
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Drake Maddy ready when you're getting set ready every game?
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: So that's going to be a challenge to the coaches
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: to get Drake ready because that has to be part
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: of their job description right now, is getting that third
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: overall pick ready to play football? And how are you
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: going to do it now? I don't know. I don't
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: know the iman of that.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: I would say it's kind of nice at this point
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: to have a bunch of quarterback guys like you've got
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: TC McCartney. You know, you've got well what's his face back?
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: I can do like you have the coaching infrastructure to
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: kind of give Drake a tutor, you know, like you
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: have enough guys where it's not Matt Patricia. Guys I
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: can't coordinate the offense right now. I got to run
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: over to the offensive line, you know, like compairing it.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: It's an extreme comparison that was, you know, kind of
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: ridiculous a couple of years ago, but it just makes
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: you feel like there's gonna be eyes on him. It's
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: not like gonna be Jacoby's working directly with Alex van
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: Pelt and they're getting ready for the game plan, and
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: you know, Drake's on an island, just kind of sitting
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: there with his thumb and his ear waiting for like,
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: you know, how is.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: He going to get reps with Jalen Polk? And you know,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: the starters of the offense who if he does go in,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: are the guys who's going to have to play with Well, I.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: Think they've I mean i've seen you know, an effort
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: with Polk at least, and Baker I mean to a
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: lesser extent, But for those guys really seem to be
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: working on their chemistry. And I mean Polk was always
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: kind of with both groups. It wasn't you know, I
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: don't think that there's that much separation between Really, to me,
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: it's more about what the top offensive line was and
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: how protected is he going to be? But I think
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: Drake worked with pretty much every receiver. I mean I
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: don't I don't remember a lot like with Thornton and
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: Henry really maybe some of the lesser guys.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: But that's going to change. If he's like regular season mode,
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: he's working against the first defense, running the other team's
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: place a lot. Now, you don't have to do it
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: that way. I wouldn't personally. I would have Joe Milton
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: do that.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: I'm sure they will.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's generally what the backup quarterback does. And
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: he's working with secondary receivers.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: He's not working with you know, And I think that
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: at some point, you know, I just think they're going
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: to look at the offense week five and it's it's
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: just not going to be doing much and they're going
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: to say, after that game, Okay, this is May's week
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: starting Monday, it's all about Drake May.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: More predictions from Freddy.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: It's all about Drake May. And he's going to get
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: every rep and we're just going to get May ready
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: for this next game.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: It'd be an interesting conversation to have with like Andy Reid,
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: you know, like how.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: Did how do you do? How do you do it.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't there an injury there that prompted Mahomes
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: to come in.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: No, No, he played the last game just because they
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: had already clinched everything, so he played.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: Alex Smith played in the playoffs.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Yeah, So, like, how did Andy Reider even
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: against US?
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I think that is that year or
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: that might be a different year. Never mind.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Andy Reid, how did you do it?
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: How did you know these other punny of teams do this?
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: You know, maybe Brian Floor isn't the best one to
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: ask about how to develop a.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: Young quarterback and.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Terrorize him, but you know they did something similar to
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: and I hope Paul that they do not use Drake
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: May as the scouts, you.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying, right, Yeah, generally how it's done.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: I hope they don't do that.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: I think that's why they probably kept Joe Milton around
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: is to not have to do that.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: But it's a good question.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: I still feel like I'm on the side of you
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: go to a when he's ready, you go to Drake
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: May's number one, but number two is when they're ready
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: for him. Like, I I don't think that if the offense. Obviously,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: we have to see why the offense isn't moving the
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: ball and why they're not being successful. But if it's
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: the reasons that we think that it's going to be
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: mainly the offensive line, I'm not putting him in there
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: behind that line. I'm not doing it well.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think in a good case scenario is
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: there's what if it's kind of like the summer where
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: Brissette was like missing guys downfield and you're like, you know,
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: we got something here, but like he just isn't hitting
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: these guys.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: And he's not really see change right now.
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: Then it's like the perfect kind of like let's get drink,
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: Like we just need that kick in the pants to
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: get you know, over that hump and make some explosive
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: plays downfield. We got a guy that can throw the
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: ball there. Let's see what it looks like with him.
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's like perfect scenario where you feel like
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: you got something there, but you just are maybe lacking
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: that explosiveness that you hope.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's it's so hard to predict. But
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: you mentioned, okay, there was a play to be had
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: and Jacoby just couldn't couple of but also there's the
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: factor of, you know, a quarterback who could extend a
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: play and make a play that isn't there happen, Yeah,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: which you can't tell that by just watching. When when
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: would that have been you know, occurred if Drake May
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: was on the field. The only way to know that
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: is to get him out on the field. And you
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: know it's so it's they've got their work cut out
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: for him, the coaches.
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, the clocks start as soon as the season starts. Like,
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: he's just I think everyone that covers this team is
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: kind of in the same boat of hes just he's
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: got to play this year. Is there anybody really out
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: there making an impassion case that he shouldn't play this year.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: I've heard a few people say, you know, red shirt
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: the year, but most people.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Not since camp. Yeah, most that was more of a
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: before camp.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: You know, he's kind of most people are saying he's
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: got to get in there at some point, and no, sooner,
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: sooner the bad.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: What if it's all mop up time?
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Though?
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: Like what if Jacoby is the starter of seventeen games?
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: Is that worth anything?
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Again?
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: No, not to me, it's not.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Ye, how's the other team playing you know, like if
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: it's garbage time and he's getting garbage stats, then we're
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: getting garbage looks.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, I wouldn't say it's worth nothing.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: No, it's it's good to get into a game. It's
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: not like the other team's going to put in there.
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: It's just kind of my fear.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: It's just kind of an extension of the preseason.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I mean. It's just it's a worry that.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: If it's like if you're telling like Fred had a
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: scenario early in the show about it's a close game
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: and you're just not doing anything on offense, that to me,
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: he's not mop up.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: No, that's not a mop up.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: Like even if he comes in the game in the
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: fourth quarter, putting him in to win, you're putting him
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: in to try to jump stut the offense. I don't
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: envision that happening.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: You're ting him well, I mean, how many times do
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: you put him in last year with this offense where
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: it was six nothing or the only one that reference
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: by the way.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: I don't think that you can do that.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: That to me is but mop up is we're down
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: thirty eight to three and it's early fourth quarter. We're
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: gonna put Drake out there to get his feet wet,
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: give him some experience. I don't think there's Evans right.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: It's not nothing, but it's it's kind of an extension
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: of the preseason. It's not as meaningful as real.
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: It's it's real time. Set the table for next year,
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: like it needs to be set.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: But come out.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: That's all he got was mop up and blowouts. I
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: wouldn't feel like we learned anything. I would be he
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: would not be fun to do the show.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: I would be extreme critical if he doesn't play it
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: breaking down that's an unacceptable Yeah, absolutely unacceptable. If he
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: doesn't like he's shown. He almost played week one like
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: it was a real conversation. I think.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's any way in hell he doesn't
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: play this year.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: No me neither. Unless Jakobe were said seven and oh
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: or something crazy.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: I was going to say, what's the what's the amount
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: of wins that it would take that you would be
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: satisfied if Drake may didn't play at all? Literally like
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: playoff team, they would they would have to be nine
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: to ten wins.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's maybe even more.
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: And they would have to happen early too. You know
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: it couldn't be like bad start and then you get
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: to ten like you got to start out hot.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Is there any chance that you know, uh, they're two
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: and four and then they put in May and it
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: looks worse.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: Sure, oh god, yes, yeah, possible that the rookie is
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: not as prepared to play as the nine year vet.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So then what happens develop I'm not talking
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: about I'm not talking about people who you know, but
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: like with the media and fans, then what happens.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Well, people on my side of the street would say, well,
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: this is Josh Allen his rookie season, right, and he's
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: going to learn the lumps now, and he's gonna, you know,
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: learn mistakes and hopefully I can't make that throw, right, Yeah,
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: and then you learn from things like that and then
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: it kind of goes like this starting in year two,
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: like that would be the hope.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: But it's going to take people to explain that to
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: some people.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: You know, that's what that's what we do.
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: He knows ball.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: Sorry, he's a ball mower.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, get it right. You could also
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: say no, either way, you do a crack, you do crack.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: I'm also appreciated you getting my two a jail and
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: hurts reference.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well the other first of all college he watches
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: one or two college games every year and becomes an
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: authority on the one guy who flashes like say lad
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: maconky Okay.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: But that was the one game I thought maybe you
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: guys would have watched.
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, oh, the playoff game.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a national champions national championship game pulled. You know.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I tuned into the Alabama game. Usually usually that's the
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: game that's on.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's probably gonna be a little bit right now,
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: four o'clock sec on.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: I'm going to try to watch more college football this year, Guys,
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: I kind of say this every No, I'm really trying,
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: Like I did some preliminary like he's coming out because
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: he knows back in your heart. Someone said college football,
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: and Barth was like, well, but but I have some guys,
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: you know, like I just I think what will help
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: me watch more is if I have some guys already
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: that I'm kind of curious about. And then again and
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: I can look at it and be like, all right,
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna look at this guy, you know, if Texas
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: is playing or where, you know, like.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: Doing it all right? You just gotta watch it. And
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: you see a guy flash and then you right and
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: you and you feel like you invented the guy, only
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: to find out he's projected as like the eleventh overall.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: Like I told you, nothing gets so.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Like maybe you were like watching the a SEC championship
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: game in twenty twenty two and you text Alex Bart
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: and you say, hey, I know I'm supposed to be
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: watching Josh Downs, but like, who's this quarterback? Because he's
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: damn good. Then like a year and a half later,
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: he gets drafted by the Patriots, like something like that's.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: Good, that's fine, I mean, but it feels like inform.
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: It just feels so overwhelming though, because there's so much
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: college football and the Patriots are one team, and you know,
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: it's so hard, like.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: It is that actually early in the year, like you're
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: wasting your Sunday.
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean wasting I don't work Sunday.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: But to do both, like it's this is a really
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: this is a really good weekend for college football. There's
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: some good matchups, like right out of.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: The show ahead Tim and West for Tim, Oh, I'm sorry,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Timmy you there?
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  Speaker 9: Oh can you hear me?
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: He Tim?
• 47:43
  Speaker 9: Hey moving into we I this morning, and I.
• 47:48
  Speaker 10: Tormally disagreed with those guys that are all a bad
• 47:51
  Speaker 10: MC phobe being the starter. But I don't feel comfortable
• 47:54
  Speaker 10: putting a break behind this offensive line at all. And
• 47:59
  Speaker 10: I think the biggest regret this team would out if
• 48:02
  Speaker 10: he had some you know, severe either season ending injury
• 48:05
  Speaker 10: or worse. Yeah, that's the worst case scenario thing.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: But Tim, can I just ask your something real quick? Tim,
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: do you really think that there's like more of a
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: risk of like worse than a season ending injury like
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: behind this offensive line than any other? Like, I mean,
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you that I think there's more of
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: a risk of him getting sacked behind this offensive line
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: than say Kansas City's. But I don't think there's any
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: bigger of a risk for like a career ending injury, right,
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: Like that's a fluke.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Like there's more of a chance of him getting a
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: career ending injury just running down the field and having
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: one of those non contact injuries.
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: I agree, you know, I agree, planner of fresh items
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: or something?
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: All right, Tim, thanks for the call. Tim Boots here,
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• 52:18
  Speaker 13: You know, just like I told you guys a few
• 52:19
  Speaker 13: days ago, there was a you know, it's a process
• 52:22
  Speaker 13: as far as selecting who the starting quarterback is. Uh,
• 52:25
  Speaker 13: we have decided or I have decided that Jacoby Brissett
• 52:28
  Speaker 13: will be our starting quarterback UH this season now and
• 52:31
  Speaker 13: saying that as an organization, we're one hundred percent behind Jacoby.
• 52:35
  Speaker 13: There is no you know, you got a guy right here,
• 52:38
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• 52:39
  Speaker 13: behind Jacoby. And I had an opportunity to talk to Drake,
• 52:44
  Speaker 13: I had an opportunity to talk to Jacoby separately and
• 52:46
  Speaker 13: also together, and I feel like we're all on the
• 52:49
  Speaker 13: same page from an organizational perspective, said, you know that
• 52:54
  Speaker 13: you had the.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: Decision, and that was your decision.
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: What ultimately led you to Jacob percent?
• 52:59
  Speaker 13: There are a lot of actors that led to this choice.
• 53:02
  Speaker 13: I think, you know, the hard part is thinking in
• 53:04
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• 53:12
  Speaker 5: To start this season.
• 53:17
  Speaker 13: I don't I don't want to get into hypotheticals. You know,
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• 53:22
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• 53:24
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• 53:26
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• 56:41
  Speaker 5: I just have no confidence that the Patriots are going
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: to be able to expose any of these, you know
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: weaknesses you see statistically like red zone like we saw
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: last week. That was a terrible red zone defense too.
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: It didn't really matter, no I did.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: We got two red zone touchdowns?
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: Yes, so true.
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: I mean we need to have an intervention right now.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: It's never good enough, josh us say, I'm tired of
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: getting sad.
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: That was just as funny today as it was yesterday.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Red zone, well, you know probably you know they did.
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: They stopped him. I mean they were able to score
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: twice in the red zone. I mean you don't go
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: from like zero for seven to like five for five,
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: like it usually doesn't work. That week, there was progress.
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: Last week they had two red zone touchdowns. Alex telling
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: he doesn't listen to me.
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: Kevin Aris broke like six tackles, got it.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: On one play that was like the first play.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: He's like, did we throw it into the end zone?
• 57:30
  Speaker 11: Really hard?
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: Why do you?
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, style points?
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: It's got to be a you know what you're no
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: longer allowed to do. You're no longer allowed to make
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: fun of me with my boys, Felgrian Mass, because you
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: are a wanna bee Felgrin Mass. You want to find
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: something to pick up.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: No, they had to come from twenty eight three down.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: I mean they didn't.
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: They didn't throw the ball into the They got red
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: zone scores, but they didn't throw it into.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: The lead right away in the Super Bowl.
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: Except it's unacceptable. I demand dominance and excellence and perfecttion.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: That's another great moment from.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: All right. Welcome back to Patriots Unfiltered. It's Evan Paul
• 58:07
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• 58:11
  Speaker 4: You know if that might have been a little clip
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: that we played coming in. Yeah, that might have been
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: the origin of sneaky negative.
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: Duce early in the early.
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: Thre like just not really accepting some positivity.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: Well, what year was that, because that could have.
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: Been any time? It was twenty twenty three. Sounded like last.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: Year, because I thought the origin was I'm still so
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: sick of twelve and four seasons.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: That sounded like the Matt Patricia year, Kevin Harris, Arizona,
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: Matt Brady's.
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know last year, I think right, we just
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: said it was twenty twenty three.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: No, I mean that was what we were just talking. Yeah,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: but sick of the twelve and four, Yeah, sick at
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: twelve and four.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: That was when he first came in. Yeah, Like I'm
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: just I'm really excited.
• 58:51
  Speaker 11: Twelve and four September, Section second, twenty twenty one.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Twenty one.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just wanted to see something different.
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: That was from twenty five.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: No, when you said I'm sick of twelve and four
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: was twenty twenty one?
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: All right? Right right, I'm going to take the blame
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: for this. I derailed it.
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: Well, you guys are right though. I mean after those
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: two red zone touchdowns that at the offense last year
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: got back on track and they were really good.
• 59:11
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: I'm still telling you he was twenty twenty two.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: But you could have interchanged either of those two. It
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: didn't really matter.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 4: Haven't heard from him in a while, mister Cream.
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: If the cap is crap, would you prefer the NFL
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: moves to a hard cap like the NHL. I personally
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: think it would be a lot more transparent at the fanbase,
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: for the fan base and media.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, the the NHL cap is not crap. That's
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: a legit cap, and you know, the numbers are there
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: and you can't exceed it, and you can't you know,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: play around. You know, funny that you bring it up
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: on this this day. Pretty major cap adjustment being made
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: as we speak by the Cleveland Browns somehow managing to
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: maneuver money around with Deshaun Watson's cumbersome contract to create
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: over thirty five million dollars in cap space. Tough.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they figured it out.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: I thought you're gonna talk about Swayman. Doesn't Swayman want
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: he wants his ten mil.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: No, So the argument to be made there is would
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: you rather have it like the NHL and have it
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: be you know, completely transparent, so you know whatever. Yeah,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: five year, ten million dollar contract is two million a
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: year and that's you know, that's all you know, That's
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: what it is. It's a cap hit is two million
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: every year, no matter what he gets paid, that's the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: cap hit. And you can't exceed it. You can't say, well,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: we're going to pay them six million this year because
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: we have more space, so we have more space later.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: It doesn't work that way. You can't do it like
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: you can't in the NH in the NFL, which one
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: would you rather have?
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: NFL?
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: I think I would rather have it the way the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: NFL is. It's way too.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: Serious of a question from the Donut, I don't know
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: what the heck's going on.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: In his world.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: Was like, I agree with that, and I like the
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: fact that you can play around with the cap and
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: it doesn't really affect how teams are structured. I the
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: NHL cap.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: Pisses me off too restrictive, because it's way too restrictive.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: Like the Bruins last year had to keep players in
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: Providence because they literally couldn't afford to bring them up
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: to the Bruins and pay the money to pay them,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: and so the fans in the team had to suffer
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: and not watch the best possible product because they couldn't
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: use the cap to you know, they didn't have that back.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: And I know this isn't about the NHL. Like the
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: only loophole that I'm aware of with the NHL is
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: that long term. Yeah, a lot of good teams do it.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: When you know you're going to make the playoffs and
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: you have a good player that's injured, you can do that. Yeah,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: like Tampa Bay end of a couple of years ago.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: As Evan just said, knowing you know, I can go
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: through the regular season without two.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: Really important put.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: Him on long term I are saved that money on
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: the cap and then I have them back for the playoffs.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: That's that's a big time loophole.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was I can't remember who it was in
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: the Bruins, one of their centers who's like their best
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: face off guy. They couldn't win a face off to
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: save their life for like a month straight, and they
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: had to keep the guy in Providence because they literally
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: couldn't afford to put him on the NHL roster. So,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: I you know, it's just things like that to me,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: I don't like about the NHL cap, Like you should
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: want the fans to get the best possible product on
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: the ice. I'm not saying it should be a no
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: cap league, but it just it should be better than that.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: Mark Conchetta rights in two things all, why can't it
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: Why can't it be mop up duty when the Patriots
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: are up thirty eight three?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: Well that was what Mike said, Yeah, Mike, Mike threw
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: that out there earlier.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: Absolutely likelihood of that happening is zero percent. No, I'm
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: just kidding.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: Once it could happen, could happen.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: You never know regarding someone like Reager, and if he
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: gets promoted from practice squad for the first few weeks
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: as a veteran, does the practice squad promotion in week
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: one stop him getting the full salary salary for a
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: season guaranteed. I don't know.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: He does not have his salary guaranteed because he wasn't
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: on the he's not on the week one right roster
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: for the whole week. But if he gets elevated, he
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: does get like, it's not a practice squad salary. You
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: get a bump, you get a game day check. Right,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: that's probably better.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: It's like twelve grand a week somewhere in that area.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: For well, he'll get close.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: He'll get twenty three because he's a veteran, so like
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: guys that have all.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: Just peanuts now.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: Also, I also it's like two hundred and fifty dollars.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know the details of this, but I also
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: would I would guess that a lot of teams when
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: they have, you know, veterans like Reager, who's fifty year
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: something like that, Veterans like that, I think get paid
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: as if they're on their active roster in a lot
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: of cases. I'm not telling you that that is the
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: case for like Tristan Hill and Reager, but I'm saying
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of teams do
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: it that way.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: Let's see. Jacob in Rochester writes in I understand many
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: of the things that everyone on the show and in
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: the media has said about concerns about Drake May starting this,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: including the offensive line and not knowing what's happening behind
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: closed doors when they review film, But I can I
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: can't help but have a gut reaction that I'm not
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: really excited about watching games nearly as much with Brissette
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: as the quarterback. Seeing May footwork, pocket presence and other
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: warts it all was far more exciting to watch than
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: anything I've seen from the offense since Tom Brady left.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: So true, totally, so true. Like I mean, it's I
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: mean even I said, I think last show, like even
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: in the preseason game, when you were like, all right,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: all right, let's go, you know it's it's you understand,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: you're just kind of an holding pattern right now, waiting
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: for for the Drake.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's totally fair. I mean, the touchdown that ever
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: never was to kJ Osborne was the most exciting Patriots
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: play on offense I've seen since Brady, and it didn't
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: even count and it was still I mean, it's a
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: totally fair point.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: None of us are Where would you put the mac
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: Jones to Farrell Brown catch and run touch?
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: Oh that's tough ball.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: That's not the fact that this is. That's the list
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: is not great.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: The only real big Plague can remember is is Matt
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 5: Marcus Jones walk off against the Jets like you know otherwise?
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: Oh and that wasn't even a play. Yeah, that was
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: a punt return.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: Punt return.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: I'd say mac Jones's best touchdown pass was probably weak
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: one Can Born against the Eagles. I would say that's
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: probably his best touchdown pass that moment there. I was like,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: maybe there's a chance in his moments.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: I want to hunter Henry against Cleveland, it wasn't.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: Even the ones Born against Cleveland.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: Was reasonably promising the first half of his rookie year. Yea,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: the one again that I would.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: That was probably his best throat.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: That Born went up the scene against Cleveland jumped up.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: We remember when Fred said that he.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: Had question Henry over the years.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: Now, I'll take credit for that quote, right, even though
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: he take it out of content.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: As Roger Clemens would say.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: Nolan from California, writes in I gotta say, for selfish reasons,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: I'm very disappointed with the decision. I under I think
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: he means I understand preseason is preseason, and I don't
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: know behind the scenes, but I was very impressed by Drake,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: and I was with Fred and thought he would start
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: week one.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: We were all impressed, like he's gonna play and you're
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: gonna have plenty of Drake May in your lives soon.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: And we're all a little disappointed.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: But just did you squeeze first?
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: Try to be a little patient. Yeah, I'm telling myself
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: that just as much as I'm telling everybody else.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: Oh, I know, it's gonna be hard for you though, Like,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: you know, start a second quarter, second half in Cleveland
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: and you're like or Cincinnati, and yeah, I guess we're
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: going to Kobe in the second too, you know.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: But I get that mentality too, Like, yeah, me too.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: You know, this is just the lack of buzz because
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: you don't get to see you you're just kind of
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: waiting for the real And even if Brisette plays really well,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: like I think realistically people are looking at this season
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: as a rebuilding season. And even if he plays well
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: like it's not necessarily helping you for the future.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but but maybe there's a little bit of a
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: silver lining that, you know, if there are some guys
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: that that starts to shine a little bit around, that's
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: what you gotta hope. Imagine this guy, you know, imagine
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: Thornton having this good year with with you know, Drake,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: or imagine Douglas having this great second year with Drake,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: or you know those kind of things.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: If it's Polk and Douglas, you know, sort of excelling. Yeah,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: like Brissette and you know, let's even extrapolid a little bit.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: And somehow you get Wallace and Robinson on the offensive line, right,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: they're protecting Brissette. Well, well, not yet something to be
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: encouraged about David.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: At Bethlehem, Brissett will be under siege. The old line
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: is porous, which is a problem for a pocket passer.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: May is mobile, can run and run plays that Brissett can't.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: That's why May should play sooner and his arm in
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: accuracy is better. Play the better player, and it shouldn't
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: be controversial.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: It's not controversial he is the better player. But I
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: can understand, like Girodmeo said, it it's the long term
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: versus the short term, And to me, he was fighting
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: his own inner demon with this, being like the competitor
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: in him wanted to put the best player out there
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: in Week one, but he knew that that wasn't the
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: best for Drake May's long term development. And at the
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: end of the day, that has to win out right now, like,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: it's not about Week one in Cincinnati, it's about getting
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: him to a point where he's the quarterback for the
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: next decade of the Patriots. And if this is going
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: to help put in the right direction, then that's what
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: they're doing.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: I'd be really curious to well, I am curious, but
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: I love to find out who on the coaching squad
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: had what opinion about this whole thing.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: Seems pretty clear to me that Alex vann Pelt wanted
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: to play Jacoby the whole time.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Why do you say it was pretty clear to you just.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: By his comments, Like he told us, was the last
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: week that he spoke to us, and he said, who's
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: the starter. He's the starter. He said, there's specific things
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: that he does better right now than Drake May, and
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: there's a certain way to bring along rookie quarterbacks and
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: he's never seen NFL defenses before, and he doesn't have
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: all the tools at his disposal to handle pressure and
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: all these different type of things. And Jacoby is just
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: better at him than those things. And I would say
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: the last thing just the system, Like I don't think
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: that they're fully ready to put Drake May under center
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: in a regular season.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: And everything he says is true, but in a team
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: that doesn't really have playoff aspirations, whenever you put Drake
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: May in, that's gonna be the first time he sees
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: NFL defenses. So yeah, like I could see if this
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: was a playoff ready team, and you know, even with
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: Jacobe P said they should make the playoffs, that's not
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: the case here. You know where we're starting from the
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: ground floor. So I think it takes a little bit
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: of you know, credence away from what AVP is saying.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think he's he's mostly just worried about
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: the build up of pressure and how that can impact Well, that's.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: Up to the coaches to believe that pressure.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: Well pressure like in terms of like defenses getting pressure.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but like that's like if let's just say that,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: you know, they aren't looking good week five six, we
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: put in Drake May you don't think teams are gonna
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: come at him with the kitchen sink.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: Of course they are, and they should.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: It's not gonna be any easier firm in week six
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: and as it is in week one.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: No, but maybe the offensive line is a little bit
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: better equipped to handle settled now.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: Fair enough, that's what you're hoping.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: Fair enough.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: You're hoping that the rest of it is progressed a
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: little bit fair enough.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: I think though, Paul is just going back to your
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 5: practice squad or you know, backup reps thing. Do you
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: think that there's value going against the Patriots defense even
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: if you are maybe running someone else's stuff, Like, can
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: you still get you know, are you still learning? Are
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: you still just trying to give a look?
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're real.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: I think you can still learn. But I was just
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: I was sort of attacking it from Fred's point of view,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: as at some point he needs to play and work
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: with the players that he's going to be in the
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: game with in practice and if he's like with the
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: twos quote unquote, and you're giving a scout look, well
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: to Mario Douglas and Jalen Polk and Taekwon Thornton probably
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: can kJ Osborne are not recent. He's running someone else's offense,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: That's what I would be more. But he's running it
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: with guys that aren't going to be in the game
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: that too, He's gonna be with Matt Landers, right, like
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: those are the guys that are gonna be running the
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: other team's place.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: I would be more worried about the terminology and like
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: the scheme and all that kind of stuff. Like now,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: now you're that's a good point. Now you're learning two
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: different languages. It's like, now you have English and Spanish
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: in your head, and it's like, okay, well, it just
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: he doesn't need to worry about running scout team like
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: you just it shouldn't be his problem to worry about.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: He needs to worry about Drake May and the new Patriots.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: Craig and Charlotte. Admittedly, I didn't want the Pats to
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: draft Drake May. I wanted them to trade down and
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: get more assets. But watching him through the preseason and
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: listening to him interact with the media, I'm with Paul
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: in that I just find him really likable and I
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: think he's made enough progress for him to be out
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: there I even found myself a little disappointed with this
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: morning's news. I think I'm with most of you now
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: that I'm okay with Jacoby if he starts out the
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: year and helps work through the early growing pains of
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: the team while Drake has more time. I guess the
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: part that worries me a bit is Mayo saying Jacoby
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: is our starter for the season, the quotes if the
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: plan is for him to sit out the whole year. Well,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: then I asked, Paul, does this fit your definition of tanking?
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: Do you think Mayo is considering the whole year? I
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: kind of don't love this transparency Mayo keeps trying to provide.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think he meant that.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: No, I don't think he did either, But I don't
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: think it's tanking. Like even if it happens like he's
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: playing the guy, he thinks like the nine year guy
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: should have a better chance to win games. Yeah, Like
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: that's the opposite of tanking, do you know what I mean? Right? Like,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: I think we can all say we see from a
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: skill standpoint that Drake may is better than Jacoby were set.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: But I think probably three of us, maybe Evan wouldn't
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: agree with this you gotta figure that Brissette is more
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: prepared to play in a game right now than May is. Sure,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: I think he's more prepared to play, So I don't
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: know how that's tanking if you played Brissette.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: But could some of that been alleviated if they had
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: gotten him a little bit more ready during the preseason.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: That's a fair argument. But like I just I made
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: this comment because I was with Andy this morning, Andy
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: and Fitzie on their podcast.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: I think it's hard to imagine any rookie, especially at
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: that position, entering the league and being fully prepared to play.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: Like it's just hard to It's hard for me to
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: fathom with all that goes into that mentally and experience wise,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: the knowledge of the coverages and the systems and the
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: protections and everything, that someone is really quote unquote ready
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: to go, sight unseen, never played, he's ready to go.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: I think you know you you can't or you have
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: to admit that the situation this offense is is a disgrace.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: Like nothing has been done over the last few years,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: No since Brady left to really like things have been done,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: but nothing has worked to get this offense in four
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: years to a state where you could get a rookie
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: quarterback and insert him into a functional offense. Oh like
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: we're starting different, I know, but we're starting from scratch.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: The state of the offensive line, the fact we don't
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: even know who the best wide receiver is on this team,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: the fact that we really only have one tight end
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: that we know, you know, can play at this point.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: That's that's the reason why Drake May isn't starting.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: It's not my reason why, but I get it. I
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: get's you.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean?
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say two like even the people that
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 5: you know, you don't know exactly how Michael and when
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 5: you is going to fit into this scheme and what
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 5: you know mean.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: When you doesn't even know what position he's playing.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is ridiculous.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: That's another one that I wanted to defend my shows
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: on Okay, my boy Mike de So gave me some information.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: So I heard them talking on the radio because we
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: were talking about, you know, some very critical comments that
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: Mike Lombardi had about the Patriots and all that. The
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: weight game, right, so you're talking about how much weight
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: he gained and they said that he was three sixty
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: And then I think Felder followed that up, saying, you know,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: I actually heard three eighty. Right, So someone, Mike.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: And win you he's not three hundred and eighty pounds.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: He was anyway, he was, he was at the start
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: of the spring anyway.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: Not now.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: Someone asked Michael, I know, because he's I'm not going
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: to get into it. He was asked in the locker room.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: They said on the radio that you gained eighty pounds.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: That's not what they said on my shows. They didn't
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: say he gained eighty pounds. They said he was One
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: person said three sixty. Another person said three eighty. Right,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: he hasn't been three hundred pounds, probably since high school. Yeah,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: he didn't gain eighty pounds.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: And they were talking about Lombardi like Bari reported eighty.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: He said three sixty. He said he was three sixty,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: So in order to have gained eighty pounds, he was
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: too eighty. Yeah, I mean, when was when was the
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: last time Michael won? You weighed two hundred and eighty pounds?
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: No, I mean I listened to them, but that's.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: Not what they said on the radio.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, eighty pounds would have been like four hundred pounds.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's not the same arning clip, and Lombardi
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: did not say eighty pounds. Yea, he said three eighty.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: I think he said three sixty.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: Weller Felger said three eighty after the clip. But I
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: don't know. I'm not telling you what he actually weighs.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: I'm just telling you they didn't say he gained eighty pounds, right,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: they were telling you what he allegedly weighed. Yeah, that's
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: and I don't think those two things are the same.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: Jazz from Virginia. What are your thoughts on J. T.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: O'Sullivan's the QB School critique of May's preseason performance against
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: the Command and he was very critical of May's pocket movement.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: Did you see that?
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: Yes, I watch all of his stuff. I try I
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: try to watch it. After I watched, I do my
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: review because I don't want to like, you know, then
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: you've got to hees like, oh, like that's just JT. O.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: Sullivan's very much so.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: I would say that all of his critiques are fair.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: They don't. Some of the things that he was critiquing
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: don't bother me as much as they bother him.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: But he does have a tendency to drift into pressure
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: in the pocket or just like create more problems for himself.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: Than he has to.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: But I'd say the one thing that I always go
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: back to is that guys like JT. Want these quarterbacks
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: to be mechanically perfect, right, Like they look at Tom
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: Brady and they're like, that's how every quarterback should look.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: And some quarterbacks just have different styles, like they don't
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: all look like that. And the comparison that I made
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: when I wrote about it on Monday and after further
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: review was like, if you had told somebody to uh
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: mechanically be like Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes, then a
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: quarterback coach would say absolutely not, Like that's broken, Like
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: why would you You can't throw the ball. Patrick Mahomes
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: throws the ball off one foot all the time he's
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: falling away you know, you know, fade away jump shots
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: like these types of things, Like you wouldn't tell a
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: young quarterback in like middle school to throw the ball
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: like Patrick Mahomes. So with Drake May, some of the
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: stuff that he does in the pocket with his footwork
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: might not work for JT. O Sullivan no offense, but
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: they would work for somebody with Drake May's talent. So
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: I agree with a lot of his critiques. I'm just
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: not sure if it's something that I'm looking at now
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: as like a fatal.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: Flaw, like he can't play in the laitue because of this.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: I wrote it during the game on the block, so
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: it's verified. I'm not making this up now. So I said,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: I thought that he had a good game, I said,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: but in the pocket I thought his awareness I had
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a problem with, because you know,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: you can't throw the ball if you can't follow through.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: And like I said, in the block, that's a good
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: way to get your hand hurt, your arm hurt, coming
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: down on somebody's helmet. And that happened at least twice.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: And that was and that was JT's thing, which is
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 5: drifting into trouble, you know, and I and I and
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: I also wondered, you know, part of our discussion about
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: the offensive line, and there was you know, a little
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: bit kind of related to Drake and going, you know,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: moving into where guys are. The thing that bugged me
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: a little bit. That just was the weird throws commentary,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: which was something that O'Sullivan said that he kind of
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 5: noticed on Drake May's college film A couple throws the
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: other night where you were kind of like, where was
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: that one going? You know, we've seen a couple of
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: those over the summer. I don't mean this like I'm
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: going to say this right now, and I don't want
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 5: it to be like taken, but he's like the opposite
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 5: of Tom Brady in some ways. Right now the video
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: of the Paul and I did with Josh McDaniels where
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 5: everything was functionally perfect, like from foot placement to pocket
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 5: movement to accuracy, and you know, and we always said
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: Brady wasn't you know, he didn't probably have the canon
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 5: that Drake May has been gifted with. So it's almost
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: can you get Drake made? To that point? It's JT said, too,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: Look it's a young kid. It's he's been three weeks.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 5: He's made strides, I would say, but it's just I
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 5: think it was a reminder like he's still got a
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 5: ways to go, and there's a lot of nuance to
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 5: the quarterback position that it makes me appreciate because we
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: can watch Drake May and be like that was pretty
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: cool watching Drake May out there, But then you realize
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 5: all the little things that he's going to have to
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: do to really attain that elite level, and you know,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 5: just to make it easier around himself. I think that
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 5: was the biggest thing that overall was just understanding where
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 5: the pressure is gonna come. Know, the like the little
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 5: slide step that that you know, Baldy threw down the
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: field to Baker was a great example earlier in the
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 5: preseason of subtle pop take the step boom, it's there,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 5: you know. So I just think it's a process. I
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: didn't get over overwhelmed with it, but it's great.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: He never stopped working on it. H's and that's I
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: mean we saw like in ten years in he's got
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: the towel under his arm and he never stopped trying
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: to perfect that technique.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's goy learned to stay in the center of
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: the pocket. That's the biggest thing with with Drake May
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: And when you have to move off your sp you
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: always want to get back to center. And I think
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: sometimes what happens with him is that he'll move off
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: his spot and then he'll keep climbing the pocket and
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: then he'll get into the line of scrimmage and then
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: that's when the deflected passes and things like that happen.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: And the last thing is just when one step or
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: two steps will do, don't make five, right, Like, if
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: you just feel a little bit of pressure coming off
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: your right hand side, that doesn't mean that you need
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: to take five steps to the left. Maybe it's only
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: two steps to the left, and those little things just
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: quieting down his feet a little bit, To just make
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: a subtle pocket movement instead of demonstrative pocket movement where
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: now all of a sudden you're running into pressure, you're
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: causing issues for yourself, can go a long way.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: So I like his.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: Presence. I think he's poisoned the pocket. I don't think
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: he's afraid back there by any means, And I do
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: actually think that he senses pressure pretty well. But right
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: now it's just kind of a work in progress to
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: get him to just kind of quiet down his feet.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: No in Toronto, And this makes a lot of sense
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: to me. How much easier was Drod Mayo's decision May
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: by the fact that May is not as fun to
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: chant as Zappi.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: It's only one syllable, May May man. It is hard
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: to mean Drake May Drake May.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: I feel like Drake is It's gonna be it's gonna
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 4: be we want Drake play may play, may play may right.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be we want Drake.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: I think we want I like that.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: We who doesn't love the Drake.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: So if it's bad with Brissette while they start yelling
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: may day.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: May Day, well that means I know, well, we got
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 5: to be careful with that, because that means you're about
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: to crash.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: So that's why it's going. It's a twofer.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: I would I would just suggest too, like with with
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 4: regard like the J. T. O. Sullivan thing, and you know,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 4: I don't you know, I don't watch a ton of
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: those things, but Mike and Evan both had talked to
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: me about what what he had said. Just as a
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: fan like I would try not to be too sensitive,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: you know, like no one comes in and just as
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: like flawless, like there's gonna be things that people are
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: gonna You're gonna see things about Drake may that you're
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: not gonna like, because you see things about everybody that
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 4: you that is not perfect. So when someone points something out,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't immediately do the patriot reaction, the patriot fan
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: reaction and immediately just start lashing out wrong no, you
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: like defend the wall, like just sort of roll with it,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: like like Mic.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: Didn't hear a ton of that. I think a lot
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: of people thought it was warranty critical.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: But I'm just saying that, and I would suggest to
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: continue doing it.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: It's gonna it's gonna flip because in the past we
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: would pick that one negative thing that the person said
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: and highlight that. Now it's gonna be we're gonna be
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: looking for that one positive they say it. Well.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: Plus, I would also say, there's a lot of people
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: out there that think it's crazy to think about playing
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: Drake May right now, and those are the people that
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: are saying, yep, that's why. So he's like, so there's
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: agendas involved. I would just say, like, you'll I don't
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 4: know about agendas, but I think you'll enjoy your process
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: a little bit more if you do it like the
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: way Mike has been talking since the start of camp
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: about I've seen enough. You have a guy with physical
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: skills that you haven't had for a while.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so just.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 4: Enjoy and watch the development and don't just like it's
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: got to be all or nothing. He's got to be perfect.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: He's got to be a perfect specimen or I don't
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: like him.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: That's the funny thing, Paul, is because JT did plenty
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 5: of videos on Matt two which we watched, and never
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 5: in Max videos were there what was in Drakes which
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: is I mean, look at this throw. I mean just
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 5: the talent, you know, like because there are those moments
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 5: in that video too, where you know the shot that
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 5: Osbourne like where he just takes a moment to praise
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 5: the pure athletic talent and gifts of this player. You
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 5: never really got that with the Mac video. So I
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 5: find it easier to kind of cling on to those
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 5: and say, you know, look, he's already ahead of the game.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 4: The touchdown throw right, the touchdown pass to Kevin Harris,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 4: like Olosky really broke that down, And I thought Olaski
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: overblew it a little bit, like why was he west?
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: But I would the baby was asleep. It was unbelievable,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: like just as pure because if you watch that play
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: the way he's explaining it, you're thinking, for sure, this
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: is a pick six. And if again, I know I
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: hate to go back and pick on you know QB
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: two in Jacksonville, but that's a pick six. Yeah, if
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: Mac Jones throws it.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: It's still the ball is still going there.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 4: You had to get that ball there quickly in order
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: because that that's that was a corner who's driving on
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: the ball, and he recognized it and didn't get there
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: in time.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I actually didn't like that throw.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 4: I didn't love it either, But it just shows you
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 4: the physical skills. I told you live that's not that's
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: not one you want to make a living doing. I
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 4: think was exactly what I said to you. Yeah, I
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: just like the one that he remember, the one over
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: in the middle. He kind of jumped when he threw it.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: He was like on his tiptoes, like to your point
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: about like throwing in traffic, just kind of like he
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: was a little toesy.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was one that uh, you know, JT often
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: says that there's just too much going on, Like there's
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: just too many moving parts. And if you're gonna be
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: a really efficient, accurate thrower, that's consistent with accuracy, you're quiet,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: like you don't have all these different moving limbs and
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: things like that, and uh, and that can tend to
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: happen with Drake May but you know, he he's he's
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: over there.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 4: That guy.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: He'll he'll harp on you know, the sprays, like we
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: call him like the Taekwon, like on the slant that
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: he's just nowhere near him and it's like, yeah, like
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: that's not a good throw, but it's one throw out
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: of twenty that he made. So like if that if
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: every once in a while, you know, let's call it,
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: two or three times a game he has one of
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: those like complete just air mails, but then he throws
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: a forty eight touch yard touchdown on the next play.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: Then I don't really care like about the air like
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: why are we so worried about it.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 5: The wrong way? Like one of the first the first game, right.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when Mac would make throws where he would like
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: drive the ball into a tight window because oh my god.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: JT. O. Sullivan would be like, there you go.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: Mac would be like happy for Mac that Mac made
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: an actual NFL throw. And now at Drake May He's like,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: well he he missed the wide open slamt by ten feet,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: Like what are we doing?
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: Uh? Joel and Ottawa, I'm mainly worried this. I'm mainly
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: worried this season will be like twenty twenty where the
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: season was lost quite early. But the team refused to
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: play Stidham enrolled with Newton. We have nothing to lose.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: If we are zero to four or one and five,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: fans will get so restless in the media will be
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: all over Mayo if he continues to send out a
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: set with no chance to win. I'm I'm all for
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: the first overall pick next year, but I want to
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: see a glimpse of may.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: I kind of just disagree with the notion that there's
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: nothing to lose.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 4: If he's not ready, you lose a lot.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: There's everything to lose, Like if he's not ready to exactly,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: if he's not ready to play and you break him
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: by playing him too early, well then then we're screwed.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: Like then you're starting from scratch again. Like the one
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: thing that you can say is that they've gotten him
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: to a decent place at this point, and the worst
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: thing that could happen is regression. Like if he goes
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: back to with his you know, we're talking all this
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: footwork stuff, but it's so much better already than it
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: was at North Carolina. And if he goes back to
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: the way it was at North Carolina and he regresses,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: then then you might not have a quarterback like, then
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: you're starting all over again.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: Okay, but I'm just saying, like, there's plenty to lose
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: if you don't think he's ready, right right, you know,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: and I'm not telling you he is or he is,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: and I'm telling you they think he's not. So if
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: they continue to think that and all of a sudden,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: you want why are you shugging?
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 5: He shivered.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: Plus that was a little bit seymore.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: Again, if they're being honest, do they think he's not
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: ready or the team's ready for him?
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: Like I don't really understand the whole team not ready
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 4: for anything about it? If I know what, I just don't.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: If you have no idea how good or bad the
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: offense is, like.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 4: I don't have any idea how good about the offense
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 4: is with Jacoby Brissett either.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: Well, but at least you're not putting in Drake May And.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't get that. I don't, you know. I'm
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: just I get that they don't think he's ready, and
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: I'm willing to be patient. But if they don't think
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: he's ready, and then you know, you don't just say
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 4: well he's ready. Now we're one in five, right, and
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 4: now he's not ready? Still right, Like that's counterproduct. How
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 4: are you going I can't do damn.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what we talked about at the outset. How
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: are you going to get him ready? That's the question.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I would love to train coaches get paid for Andy.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: Reid and all these other coaches that have done this
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: with the rookie quarterbacks and not necessarily fully red shirted them.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: But like Elliot Wolf, I'm sure has resources Jackson to
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: start right away.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: He started during his rookie year, his rookie.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: Year, and so that would be like, what made you
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: think he was ready?
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they ran they ran a gimmick offense.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's true. But you know, like in Green Bay,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: you know they did this twice. So Elliott Wolf like,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: go call your people in Green Bay and say, what
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: did you do with Aaron Rodgers for the entire season
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: when he was sitting behind Brett Farv You know.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: Like those are the people you got asked.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 5: I wanted you to fire back on Felger with that
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 5: one because the Jordan Love one. Oh, because they had
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 5: a Hall of Fame quarterback. It's the same, It's not
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 5: the same situation.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought about And the other thing that I
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 4: keep talking about with Jordan Love that no one else
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 4: brings up is like, so this is great now the
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 4: way they did it, so you think it was ideal
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 4: to let him play one season and have to give
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 4: him that contract. That's what you were looking to do
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: off of one season, which really, let's when you really
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 4: break it down, was kind of a half a season
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: because he wasn't the same guy the whole year.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 5: He threw in the Atlanta thing with Farv two, he's
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 5: like Farve status for sure, Atlanta.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: That has nothing to do with anything like nineteen ninety
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: two and he was the second round picker.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 4: Wasn't a guy that was clean, Like people didn't even
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: know who Brett Farv was.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 5: The whole point of that book by Ron Wolf, The
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 5: Packer Way, was that when he got that job, he
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 5: had had his eye on Brett Faarr forever and he
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 5: went and got him. And that was the whole plan.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 5: And this whole thing about oh the Packer Way and
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 5: sitting guys, it's just yeah, you had a Hall of
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 5: Fame court. It doesn't It just doesn't make sense. And
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 5: people just saying it great to the same thing.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: And that's what Elliott wol like, Oh that was our
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: way it worked.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: It was also with Jordan Love to just like comparing
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: them as prospects, Jordan Love was in a turnover machine
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: in college, and I did not like I think his
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: last year in college. I think I want to say
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: he threw like twenty picks or something like that, like
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: Drake May had didn't throw twenty picks over two years
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: at North Carolina. So with Jordan Love, it was less
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: like everybody makes it out to be, like he was
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: this toolsy guy that was raw and it was decision
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: making like Drake May doesn't have a decision making problem.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: He's got footwork issues and some mechanical things that they
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: need to tweak with, but he makes usually pretty solid decisions.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: Like he doesn't throw a ton of interceptions. Yeah, Jordan Love,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: if he had played in the NFL year one, would
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: have thrown thirty interceptions Like that's not gonna happen.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: Gone, Yeah, Chris with a tian I'm fine with Jakobe
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: starting for the year. I expect May to see time
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: at some point, hopefully sooner rather than later. The more
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: REPSI gets, the better I look at this year as
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: nothing more than a building block for him. And the team.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable to me that the team is going into
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: yet another season without at least an average left tackle.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: Incredible really, so yep, it is it is.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I have a bigger rant on this with the
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: whole like, to me, the person to blame for this
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: with Drake May as Elliott Wolf.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 4: Like Elliot Wolf didn't do a good.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: Enough job with this offensive line in the off season.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: And if they had done a better job putting together
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: an offensive line with the resources that they had in
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: the off season, then I really believe that Drake May
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: would be playing against Cincinnati, And that to me is
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: where it is right now. I actually think their receivers
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: are a little bit better this year than they have been.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, like Juju and DeVante Parker last year. We're
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: horrible for this team. At least you have some young
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: guys now that you feel a little bit optimistic about.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: I have some upside, But to me, this is this
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: really comes down to the fact that he never really
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: stood a chance to play because they were always going
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: to come to this conclusion.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 4: Well, especially if they were going to do you know,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: like Fred's theory of like, well, we don't know what
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 4: it's supposed to look like, but you don't know what
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: it's supposed to look like because you don't have any
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 4: players that you can you know, have any track record, right,
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 4: and that makes it even worse. Like, I mean, I
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: look at Washington and they have a new offensive coordinator
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 4: in Cliff Kingsbury. I don't know what that offense is
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 4: supposed to look like. But Jayden Daniels is starting quarterback.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: They have a terrible offensive line. It's ranked I think
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 4: twenty eighth in those same rankings that ranked the Patriots
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: last he's playing.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I looked up their depth chart today because
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: that we were trying to remember their receivers.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 4: Terry McLaurin.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: Literally the only other good player on that offense besides
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: as Jayden Daniels is Terry McLaurin. Like, that offense is
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: just as bad as the one here right now.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 4: I admittedly they do have a number one guy, yeah,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: but I mean that's it.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, rookie left tackle and they took in the third round.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they traded Jehan Dotson, who is an okay
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: number two receiver. They have Brian Robbinson the running back,
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: who's like a decent running back but Remandery is a
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: decent running back, So like they really it's not very
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: all that different between those two teams, Jay and Minnesota.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: After may said I'm gonna this is gonna be a
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: problem all season.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: Between May and Mayo, you have issues.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be a problem anyway.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: He has a little thing goes around.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, after Mayo said what's best for the team today
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: may not be what's best for the team later in
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: the season, I knew it was gonna be Jacoby. How
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: much do you think that a VP influenced the decision?
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: Since Jacoby already has played in his scheme, I just
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: don't know how make and get better in the offense
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: without playing in it. Sounds like may already knows more
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: about reading a defense than mac ten, So that's a
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: positive for me. But going back to the question, do
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: you think that had a lot of weight the fact
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: that Van Pel could say, at least you know, Jacoby
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: knows the offense, and that goes to his comment about
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: he has the tools or he knows how to use
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: the tools to get into out of trouble, And you
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: know how much of that weigh in the decision?
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: I could probably I think That's probably the only thing
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: that you could say that Jacoby has over Drake May
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: at this point is is just that I mean, like
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 3: they in the game on Sunday Night and the past,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: Antonio Gibson, it's a hot read, like you know, blitzer unblocked,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: free runner. Does Drake May know that that blitz is coming?
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 3: Like does he does he id that? And does he
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: get the ball out to the hot and like it
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: turned out to be a more successful play because Washington
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: busted the coverage. So I'm not trying to like make
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 3: too big of a deal of it, but the question
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: is does he know that that? Would like would Drake
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: May react in the same way or would he be
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: a deer in the headlights and not nowhere to go
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 3: at the ball?
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 4: Good good play to sort of bring up too, because
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of people would be like, let's
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 4: says there's a blitz and ends up sacking Jacoby Brissett,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: And people would say like, oh, well, that's a play
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 4: that may might have been able to get out of
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 4: the pocket to make a play, but they're not going
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 4: to count plays like this that Perssett understands and knows
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 4: what's coming. And there is no chance for a sack
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 4: because he knew where it was coming from and he
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 4: got rid of the ball that maybe may wouldn't have understood, right,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 4: Like that's a good example. Yeah, you know, both sides
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 4: of the equations.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 5: I just think there's also just value that Jacoby Brissett has,
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 5: you know, started against this defense in twenty twenty two.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 5: I mean he's played against this team, you know, like
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 5: he knows what they do. I mean it's you know,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 5: so it's that that to me is as much as
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 5: understanding the schemes and all that, it's it's just experienced too.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 5: You know, this guy has won games in the league,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 5: and you know you have to trust him a little bit.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I thought that that played that Gibson
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: and the game like that's like teach tape of how
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: to handle pressure.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 4: Like that's a really good play.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: Like you put that up on the board and you're
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 3: the young quarterbacks and you're like, see, like we have
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: three guys over here. If he comes, then then the
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: quarterback's hot. If he doesn't come, then you should be
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: protected and you should have it blocked as soon as
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: that linebacker comes to Kobe's a Like, I know, I'm hot,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: and like that instantaneous type of stuff might not happen
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: with a young quarterback like that was. I understand that
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: it's a swing pass into the flat and it doesn't
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 3: sound like it's it's much, but that those types of
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: things are not easy to do.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 5: What about the one where where he was where May
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: was hot on Thornton and went to Thornton.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not one hundred percent sure he knew he
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: was hot. Yeah, so that that that one was different
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: like to me or in the game against the Eagles,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: it was it was host juke. It's the same concept
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: in the game against the Eagles where he tucked it
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: and ran because he didn't throw the off coverage hitch
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: and this one, I felt like he got off coverage,
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: he knew that he had to hitch there, and he
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: was like, well, last week, I screwed this up, so
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: this week I'm going to do it right. And it
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: just coincidentally kind of worked out that they blitzed. But
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: maybe he did and I'll give him that.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, when you're looking at the trunk of
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: the stem, you gotta worry about the branches.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 4: Did you stack them?
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 4: Ran leak.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't seen that about your favorite beasting?
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 4: Is that?
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 5: What are you getting into? That?
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: Is that? No? No, I did get I stepped on
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: another hornets.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 4: Nest another Saturday. This has happened multiple times.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I got my Freddy.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 4: I worry about you arms.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: He's just stomping around legs.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: I worry about So you got like multiple stinks, like
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: twenty beastings. I got attacked.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we need like we need you. The season started.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: Luckily. I'm not allergic to it, but I am swollen
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: and itchy.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 5: So what they get just on the armor.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: Arm and legs?
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Freddy, can you not step on hornets nest?
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: It's a jungle out there. Everything out there wants to
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: kill you. You know. It's terrible.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 5: Mosquitos they get the Triple League.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of b's around.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: Here in Plymouth. They've vaccinated the whole outdoors.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 4: Because of that's the place where you can't go outside
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 4: the outside.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: Because because this new mosquito willness they've got going on cephalitis.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: Rodrigos writes in the question is mainly for Evan, but
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: hope everyone shines in. Can we really for certain say
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: that we can't play may behind this offensive line when
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: we haven't even seen the starting line yet, or is
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: what we saw in preseason games likely going to be
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: the starting line.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 3: Well, it is probably going to be most of the
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 3: starting line. You can play may behind the starting line.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 3: But I'm you know, I think we're all kind of
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 3: an agreement. I would just rather see what it looks
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 3: like for a couple of weeks in the regular season,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: and it looks like it did in the Eagles joint practice,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: I don't want to play him in that situation. If
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 3: it looks a little bit better than that, then you
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 3: start to feel a little bit better about him going
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: out there. And you know, to the point we were
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 3: just making, if he advances in terms of how to
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: handle pre snap looks and things like that to anticipate
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 3: pressure a little bit better, then that would make me
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 3: feel a little bit better. But the whole point of
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 3: sitting him right now, to me is to see what
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 3: it looks like like. You don't know what it's gonna
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: look like. So instead of throwing him into the unknown,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: at least if you throw him into a situation where
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 3: you are like, we know this might not be great,
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: at least you know ahead of time.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 5: What was The line out there today was Chukes, Ukes Leverage,
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 5: Andrews Robinson on one.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the latest, uh Scott and Virginia. Since we
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: all know sitting May has to do with the O line.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: What checklist does the O line need to meet for
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: everyone to feel comfortable starting May? If blocking is fine
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: but penalties are constant, I'd still be okay starting putting
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: May in.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 4: I'm okay putting May in whenever, Like that's not an
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 4: impediment to me. I guess I'm I.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 5: I think it's just going to be hard to say, Okay,
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 5: they're okay now like that. It's just hard to say
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 5: they you know, you just have. It's a feel and
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 5: a trust in you.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 4: Know, so if you're waiting for that, you might never
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 4: be able to put them in right like you might
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: feel good put like that. That's sort of what PFF
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 4: graded them out as the top line.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 5: All right, we're we're good, we can put them in there.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 3: That's sort of where I have come with it from
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: sneaky snarky. I like it. I like it, but Paul,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 3: because like I'm like in the middle, because you can't
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 3: wait forever, Like if you're gonna sit here and wait
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 3: for Will Campbell to come down and save your offensive line.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 3: But what if Will Campbell ends up being a bus
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 3: like then I don't.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 4: I don't thinking what the kids are go out there
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 4: and rerunning for his life either, And I understand that.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 4: I just I don't necessarily think that's gonna happen. And
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 4: I don't want to sound like Mike and it'll be fine.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that. I think there are issues with
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 4: the offensive line. I think, and I've said this many times,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 4: there's some value in playing behind you know, less than
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 4: optimal offensive line. There's there's some value to be gained
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 4: by that, and you know, to do all the stuff
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 4: that Evan's talking about and recognizing where pressure is going
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 4: to come from. I don't think it's just going to
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 4: be five guys just losing their one on one battle
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 4: every play and not what's going to happen, right, do
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Yeah? Now it doesn't happen
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 4: to any offense.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: And lostep with Michael Holly.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 4: No, he thinks it's good. I don't.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: He just thinks.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 4: I think there's pressure that you're going to have deal
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 4: with it, learn learn from it, understand how to play well.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 4: You know, this guy's coming off the backside, and that
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 4: guy is going to be coming free. Like, I think
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 4: there's a value to that to learn that. You know,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 4: you can watch it on film and say, oh, this
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 4: guy came here, this guy be how do you handle it?
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 4: You know, under fire? How do you how do you
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 4: deal with that?
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: Learn more from your failures than you do usee.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 4: That's my feeling. I'm not out there under any illusion
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 4: that all of a sudden he's gonna you know, if
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 4: he played seventeen games, you know, Drake May's going to
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 4: go out there and get sackific ten times for the
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 4: whole season. I don't think that's going to happen. Iron
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 4: sharp iron, he's going to get sacked more than Brissett would.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 5: I've heard that iron though not aluminum iron ion, right,
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 5: And he taught me that right.
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  Speaker 3: For what it's worth, he did also play behind a
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: terrible offensive line in North Carolina, and.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 4: Like I understand say people said that led to him
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 4: is bad.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: I said, for what it's worth, because it's college and
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: it's the ACC and it's not it's not NFL football.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 3: But he played behind a bad offensive line for all
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 3: of last year. At North Carolina, Like talking to his
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: coaches down there, they said that was probably the biggest
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 3: reason why. You know, the year before they go to
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: the a SEC Championship game, he's a SC Player of
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: the Year, all these accolades, all these awards, and then
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: last year they took a huge step back, and they
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: said a big reason probably was the offensive line.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: Uh Reno in Tennessee. I know I was expecting Jacoby
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: to start the season, but I'm still pretty mad. I
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: don't think they ever intended on having him compete to
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: start the season, which begs the question why lead us
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: on like they did? Drag this out for nothing. I
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: agree with Evan in a sense, I don't care to
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: watch Jakobe play at all. How is how are they
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: going to get May ready to start sitting on the bench.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: What's the difference than what he was doing in preseason
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: watching film and taking second team reps. I understand the
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: argument the team isn't ready for him, but I'm still
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: bummed we have to wait.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 5: I've got a little bit of a take development on
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 5: this one, and it's maybe it's not even a take,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 5: but I just I think that this is a little
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 5: bit of Mayo's inexperience and wanting to take from Bill competition,
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 5: and I think that that's something that you should always
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 5: preach on, you know, for your team, we want to
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 5: foster competition. But it's also a unique situation. So one
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 5: one Handy's saying competition, it's a competition, but what you're
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 5: kind of seeing is that it's not a competition. So
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 5: it's I just I think it's a little bit of
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 5: Mayo's inexperience and not knowing how exactly to I just
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 5: think it's coach paint the picture.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 4: Don't you want to try to create a culture of
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 4: competition and draining.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody should be competing.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 4: I think it was taken super literally about that position
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 4: for obvious reasons. I don't think anybody took it wrong,
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 4: not making fun of anybody, but I never really thought
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 4: it was a competition. I said that the day that
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 4: we did our first first day, I didn't think there
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 4: was any chance.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: All success is earned, but.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 4: It's rented, not owned.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 3: That was a good one. I liked that one.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 4: You remember that one.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: I liked that Christians in Virginia on the a State
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: House Christian what's up, hey, guys, I.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 14: Know Paul just said, don't complain or don't be so sensitive.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 14: But having been at the Commander's game, I gotta say
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 14: I felt a little bit frustrated, and I was wondering
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 14: your take on the athletes interactions with the fans. You know,
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 14: I understand it's probably frustrating for them, feeling like they're
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 14: gonna do with a bunch of drug people yelling at them,
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 14: But at the same time, like little Timmy's sitting over
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 14: here year with this jersey waiting to get signed, and
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 14: the only person I saw I was sitting in the
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 14: front two rows. The only player that I saw interact
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 14: with any fans, just from my point of view, was
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 14: Bailey's happy, And it was kind of like, I'm not
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 14: expecting anyone to act like they're running for president, but
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 14: I just wanted to get you guys' opinion on that,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 14: especially when the date of our team and the play
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 14: isn't really the best. You know, you kind of hope
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 14: that there's a few other factors that you can maybe
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 14: lean on a little bit to entertain the people that
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 14: are coming out and sport the team.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: All right, thanks, thanks Christian. I mean, this is an
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: age old fan complaint when guys don't sign.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 4: You know, during the game. Yeah, so I think it
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 4: was after, but I just I was just game day.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 4: I would just say that.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 3: We have nothing to do with that, right, Like we
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: get these questions in the mail bag all the time too,
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 3: of like people getting mad at like not mad at
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: us necessarily, but like thinking that we have any sort
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 3: of poll to get any of this done, Like this
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 3: is not yea, I'm sorry, but like we have no
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: And what.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 4: I was mentioning not being sensitive about, was if the
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 4: people are critiquing the play of Drake, may don't necessarily
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 4: like do what we normally do and say, Okay, he's again,
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 4: he's again. You don't cross him off the list. He's
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 4: a hater. No, Like, you know, listen to it and
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 4: just determine for yourself. Oh that's actually a good point.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 4: Oh well, I don't. I don't agree with that point.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 4: There's plenty of like the Yulowski's of the world that
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 4: I take some of the things and I say, oh,
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 4: well that that made a lot of sense. I take
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 4: some others and I'm like, I don't really see it
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 4: that way, but I don't hate the guy for life.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 4: That's what I was saying, try not to be so sensitive.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: About Yeah, Bill and Vista California. What's up, Billy? Yeahs?
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 9: First time, long time. Last night I dreamt that Drake
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 9: got the nods at the start position. Woke up come
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 9: at me, surprised when I found out D Kobe was
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 9: the starter. I'm not really mad, more or less disappointed.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 4: Not even mad. Yeah, sounds like my fast just disappointed.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 3: What happened Bill?
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: You there?
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 9: I mean, speaking of matter disappointment. Do you guys take
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 9: anything away from Gard's pressor this morning, from his body
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 9: language and a little protein but beeing like, I don't know, Jacobi,
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 9: wasn't really the way you wanted to go?
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, did I take it?
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 4: I didn't take anything away from today Earlier I.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: Thought it was an inefficient way to handle the whole situation.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: But I do wonder, like what forces are behind telling
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: drive you gotta do it this way, You got to
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: do it that way, You gotta do it this way.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: You got to do a press release, you got to
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 2: do a press conference. You can't do you can't tweet
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: it out, you can't. I just wonder like, at some point,
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: and I'm talking to you, draw this is do what
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: you want to do. You're the head coach. Don't let
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: anyone tell you how to do things and what to do.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: You've got instincts. You've been in the league a long
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: time as a pro, You've seen press conferences, You've seen
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: other coaches do what you want to do.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 4: Don't you know how you're telling them what to do.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm telling him to do. I'm telling him how
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: to do it his way. Whatever you think is right,
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: that's what you should do. Don't don't worry about all
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: this other garbage.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 5: Usually Fred only goes to camera to the fans when
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 5: they need a kick the fourth wall.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 3: I love when he breaks the fourth He made a
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 3: fantastic I think there's way too many voices in his
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 3: head right now. Yeah, just my opinion, but I think
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 3: that he is leaning on a VP with the offensive
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 3: stuff and McAdoo because it's not really his area expertise.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 3: So he's got to take their input. He's got input
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 3: from Elliott, He's got input from all directions. And it's
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: like the end of the day, you're the head coach
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 3: of the football team, like you make a decision. Yeah,
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 3: And even today he said, We've I've decided.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do believe this was his decision.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 5: I don't doubt that, but I think Evan's got a
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 5: good point. I clocked that too. We're being conscious of
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 5: the wieze and the eyes and who's making the dis.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 3: Right, because it's one thing to say we're collaborative, but
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 3: the buck has to stop. And when it comes to
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 3: the ross and who you know that who's actually playing
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: in the game, who's starting at quarterback, That's got to
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 3: be him. It can't be coming from upstairs.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: We need more mic drops from Gerard. That's it. That's it.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 4: Now goes back to another country heard from now. I
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: got to listen to Kurse.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: Let's see. Cody writes in hearing Paul mentioned on Tuesday,
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: saying something along the lines of he's not so sure
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: they will play may as early as everyone thinks. I
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: thought Paul was trolling. After hearing Mayo today, I think
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: Paul is onto something. If Jacoby is playing game manager,
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: no turnover ball, seems like he will maybe have a
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: lengthy leash.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 4: I don't think that has anything to do with it.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 4: I think it's all about may Yeah, but it's the
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 4: thing that's going to make it really difficult for us
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 4: who's to assess, like, yeah, we get ready ines you're
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 4: talking about even if you were watched every rep of
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 4: every practice. Who is to assess the mental acuity? Like,
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 4: how do you know if he made the right read
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 4: every time or called the play properly in the huddle?
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 4: For all you know, every guy's like every play is
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 4: getting botched as they're calling it, and then someone's got
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 4: to correct David Andrews, No, no, actually, Drake, it's this
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 4: like who knows. There's no way we have of knowing that.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah. He did say something funny after the game on
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 3: Sunday night that he tends to talk too fast, and
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 3: he said, I even do it with you guys in
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: front of the media. And he said that sometimes I'll
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 3: get into the huddle and then guys will be like Drake, like, yeah,
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 3: he does talk fast, you know, take a breath. So
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that it's that big you.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 4: Think when he calls the play, he starts.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 5: With the year. Yeah, he's listening.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 4: He looks that should be his cadence. He like stares
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 4: holes eyes and say.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: You love it.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: Kendall's in North Carolina hate Kendall. Hey, kend Hey, you
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: just called what's up Kendle there?
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 9: You uh real quick?
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: This one.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 9: Just to early look on the Bengals dfense or whatnot.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 9: How do you like a wide receiver matchups? Appreciate it?
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 3: Okay, we have wide receiver matchups against their secondary.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: Next week is when we get into Bengals week. Just
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: start breaking down their roster against Star and what the
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: matchups might be and all that. So I'm not prepared.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 4: Speaking for myself, let me make some indecision there with Chase.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 3: Let me just say that he didn't show up to practices.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 4: He was at practice, but didn't practice practice.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would just say this. I think I said
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 5: on Tuesday show, going back a little bit, looking at
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 5: Cleveland's matchup, which is you know how alex Vin Pelton
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 5: those guys viewed Cincinnati, who they played twice every year.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 5: I said, they ran the ball forty times in two
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 5: of the last three games. Take it for what it's worth.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 5: I mean to me, that sounds like you know, we're
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 5: we're gonna want to run Romandre Gibson play action a
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 5: lot of that.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. The players have a little
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: bit of free time this weekend, kind of reset, get
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: ready for next week. They'll be back in on Monday, obviously.
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  Speaker 2: Jerid Mail will have a press conference Monday morning, I believe,
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  Speaker 2: and we will be back on air on Tuesday, Catch
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  Speaker 2: twenty two about half an hour in thirty. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: Alex Barth, he's been sitting in his hole for like
• 1:55:35
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  Speaker 3: This is what he said. He wanted to do what
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 4: So we do three shows next week, he used, next week.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we're back to our in season schedule next week.
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  Speaker 4: Can't wait.
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  Speaker 2: People should be excited about that.
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  Speaker 4: We have any surprises, not that I'm aware of, unless
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  Speaker 3: No, nothing, Drake May is gonna start Actually, yes.
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