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The DiCecco Daily Special: Uar Bernard's Mentor Explains Why Nigerian Prospect Is "Built For This" · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: What's happened to everyone? Welcome into a special edition of
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Speaker 1: The check O Daily. I'm your host, Eagles Beat reporter
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Speaker 1: Andrew de Checko, and look, this is a very special episode.
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Speaker 1: And it's a special episode because I'm joined by NFL consultant,
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Speaker 1: founder of sack House. You may know him as the
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Speaker 1: Sax Sense, and that would be Javon Gobiy, who's been
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Speaker 1: kind enough to join me for a few minutes. Javan,
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you carving out.
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Speaker 2: A few minutes, and I appreciate appreciate an opportunity to
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Speaker 2: get on here Andrew the lovely stude man, so I'm
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Speaker 2: so excited about him.
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Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate that. And what the folks should know
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Speaker 1: is that you and I never stopped working because once
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Speaker 1: I caught wind of the testing numbers at the HBCU
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Speaker 1: Showcase and IPP Pro Day, I told myself I got
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Speaker 1: to learn more about who ar Bernard? So what did
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Speaker 1: I do? You and I got in contact and it
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Speaker 1: was Easter Sun where we got on a call always
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Speaker 1: yeah and yeah. So we're always working and you provided
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Speaker 1: some really good background and we're gonna get a little
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Speaker 1: bit deeper into that. But first a little bit about yourself.
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Speaker 2: Sure, So I h man, I think this this year
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Speaker 2: fourteen for me twelve or fourteen, I lose com man.
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Speaker 2: But I've been so fortunately blessed over the past twelve
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Speaker 2: years to work with just so many phenomenal guys man.
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Speaker 2: And you know, I truly don't like to take any
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Speaker 2: credit for all the work that I've done because these
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Speaker 2: guys have made it easy.
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Speaker 3: But it's been fun.
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Speaker 2: But I've been super blessed again work with so many
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Speaker 2: great guys over the years, you know, some pro bowlers,
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Speaker 2: even Hall of.
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Speaker 3: Famers, and it's been a fun ride.
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Speaker 2: When I got into training not too long after I
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Speaker 2: got out of college, and I like to think I
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Speaker 2: said before that my college teammates were my first clients
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Speaker 2: because I was always the teammate that was bringing guys
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Speaker 2: in later on after the day after practice and put
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Speaker 2: us some extra work on the weekends. So you know,
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Speaker 2: I feel like I've always really had those intelligibles to
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Speaker 2: do the things that I do now, and teaching always
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Speaker 2: been a passion of mind. So I'm just super blessed
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Speaker 2: to get a chance to teach the system, and the
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Speaker 2: system self develops a great path, rushes Man.
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Speaker 3: So again, it's been fun.
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Speaker 1: And you've been involved with the International Player Pathway Program
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Speaker 1: for I believe you told me four years now what
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Speaker 1: was your entry into that?
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Speaker 3: Correct.
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Speaker 2: So I've been a consulting NFL for about five years
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Speaker 2: now and the IVP program is one of the programs
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Speaker 2: that I work across. And yeah, our goal is we
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Speaker 2: want to continue to find international talent. So I'm on
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Speaker 2: the board of selecting the guys that we choose to
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Speaker 2: come and do our pro Day I'm sorry, pro DA
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Speaker 2: training and then from there get opportunity to participate in
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Speaker 2: Combine every year. So it's been fun, man, and each year,
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Speaker 2: you know, we found a bunch of great guys.
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Speaker 3: But this this is a really special year.
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Speaker 2: And I think we knew months and months ago that
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Speaker 2: we probably be at this point, and so you know,
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Speaker 2: I love the fact that we got a chance to
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Speaker 2: see this come to fruition.
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Speaker 1: So by now, folks probably know a little bit about
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Speaker 1: the seventh round pick who or Bernard, but you have
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Speaker 1: a very unique insight into that. So if you wouldn't
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Speaker 1: mind providing a little bit of background into r and
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Speaker 1: his upbringing and things like that, because it's truly a
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Speaker 1: remarkable story.
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Speaker 2: Sure, So look, I want to start off with this, Andrew,
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Speaker 2: because I've seen so many posts where one of his
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Speaker 2: teammates is helping him put on the helmet and they're like,
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Speaker 2: you don't know how to put on the himet. The
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Speaker 2: guys go wearing a helmet for the past two and
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Speaker 2: that months. Everybody knows who plays football. If you have
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Speaker 2: your gloves, it's hard to strap up, so he knows
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Speaker 2: how to put on him people, let's start with that.
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Speaker 2: But now it's been a great journey over the past
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Speaker 2: six months getting to know Or again. Like you said,
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Speaker 2: I got an opportunity to meet him last year in October.
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Speaker 2: So with the with the NFL IPP program, we host
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Speaker 2: a regional combine out of London every year at the
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Speaker 2: NFL Academy. And Or was actually founded two years ago.
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Speaker 2: He just wasn't old enough to hear of the program,
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Speaker 2: so he kind of was just waiting in a whole
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Speaker 2: for a year. And then this pass he had the
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Speaker 2: opportunity with a retest again, and you know, I thought
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Speaker 2: there was no doubt that he'd get a chance to
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Speaker 2: to you know, to to participate and come out in
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Speaker 2: Florida and train for twelve weeks and to prepare for
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Speaker 2: the International Showcase. But again it's been a blessing, like
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Speaker 2: to really get to know who are amongst all the
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Speaker 2: rest of the guys in our group, but to get
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Speaker 2: to know his background and where he's come from, and
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Speaker 2: you know what motivates him.
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Speaker 3: Like, the dude literally came from absolutely nothing.
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Speaker 2: And you know, one of the things he told me
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Speaker 2: early on was, you know, he he his family didn't
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Speaker 2: have anything, and you know, he didn't really become an
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Speaker 2: athlete until he started to learn how to hunt. You know,
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Speaker 2: he had to literally go hunt food and that's what
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Speaker 2: got him into sports, you know, just getting up running
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Speaker 2: and being physical. So that's where it started for him.
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Speaker 2: And you know one thing that I thought was very
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Speaker 2: intriguing as well is he expressed that a lot of
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Speaker 2: days that they didn't have foods, they would just eat cornville. So,
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Speaker 2: like I said, the dude really comes from absolutely nothing.
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Speaker 2: And you know, he really earned every opportunity that he
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Speaker 2: has today. And you know, I know that business, you
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Speaker 2: know what comes great praise and gloria. That's always screwed
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Speaker 2: me as well. A lot of people, you know, may
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Speaker 2: not believe he deserves this opportunity, but I'm telling you
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Speaker 2: with the opportunity that he that he's had to maximize
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Speaker 2: to get to this point. He's killed it and you
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Speaker 2: know and overachieved ten thousand times. So I'm super excited
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Speaker 2: for him. But he's a great guy, you know, huge personality,
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Speaker 2: So I can't wait for you know, Eagles fans just
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Speaker 2: continue to get to know him as a person. But
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Speaker 2: he loves music, he loves food, He's a goofster, you know,
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Speaker 2: he loves the joke. And again, I think he's gonna
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Speaker 2: be a great pro for years to come. And you know,
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Speaker 2: he's in a great situation with Clint Hurt and you know,
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Speaker 2: great defense with Vic. So I'm super excited for him
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Speaker 2: and we should expect big things that are out of Uar,
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Speaker 2: you know, within the next couple of years.
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Speaker 1: I'm a big music guy myself. What kind of music
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Speaker 1: is he into?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he likes it all, which surprised me. He likes
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Speaker 3: it all.
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Speaker 2: You know, he likes his traditionally No, so Burna Boy
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Speaker 2: is you know, famous artist out of Nigeria, so you
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Speaker 2: know that's I know, that's one of his guys for sure.
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Speaker 3: He loves Burnaba.
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Speaker 2: But now he basked in a little bit of everything Man,
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Speaker 2: he was from, you know, so we had a chance
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Speaker 2: to host him this year in our reach out programs.
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Speaker 2: He was with us training for twelve weeks preparing for
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Speaker 2: the showcase in Man. A little bit of country. He
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Speaker 2: bobbed his head to a little bit of rock music
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Speaker 2: and some rap music. So now he a fun god
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Speaker 2: man And like I said, he's really got a lot
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Speaker 2: of energy and he is a true leader.
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Speaker 3: So that's what I'm excited to.
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Speaker 2: See how he continues to grow to that role as
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Speaker 2: it gets more experience.
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Speaker 1: And when we last spoke on the phone, you said
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Speaker 1: that he was looking for a Nigerian place in Philadelphia
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Speaker 1: because he was craving food, that kind of food.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, any luck he found.
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Speaker 2: I don't know the name of the place, but he
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Speaker 2: told me that it might have been someone in the personnel.
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Speaker 2: Somebody gave him some recommendation. So he did find something,
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Speaker 2: so he was excited about He said it was phenomenal.
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Speaker 2: So I'm sure he'll be back there again. But again
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Speaker 2: whatever locals places you know, send it to him, spam him,
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Speaker 2: and I'm pretty sure he loved to be there because
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Speaker 2: again he's a big foodie and you know, I know
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Speaker 2: him eating the tradition of food.
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Speaker 3: It's always important to him.
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Speaker 1: And obviously he's no stranger to adversity. You mentioned this,
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Speaker 1: and he did in his post draft availability via zoom
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Speaker 1: that he lost his father at an and you mentioned
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Speaker 1: he came up with the you know, with his upbringing
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Speaker 1: and things like that, he was in a position where
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Speaker 1: he could change the lives of his family. And I
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Speaker 1: think that coming into this situation where everything's totally new,
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Speaker 1: he's no stranger to adversity.
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Speaker 2: Sure, And I think that's why he's really built for this,
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Speaker 2: because again, this is an adjustment for him, living in
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Speaker 2: my Jara his entire life and spending absolutely no time
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Speaker 2: in the States up until January, right, So everything is
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Speaker 2: an adjustment for him. But I don't think any of
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Speaker 2: this is harder than the things that he grew up enduring.
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Speaker 2: So he'll be fine, man. That's That's one thing he
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Speaker 2: did tell me expressed about his dad when I met
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Speaker 2: him and interviewed him early on in October of last year.
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Speaker 2: And you know, from day one when we started our
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Speaker 2: prejift program, he was like, Coach, I'm not going back
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Speaker 2: to my jail. He's like, whatever it takes, I'm not
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Speaker 2: going back and you know, I could feel the energy
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Speaker 2: radiating off him.
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Speaker 3: He has that area, man, and he earned every single thing.
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Speaker 3: But no, he has no.
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Speaker 2: Rookie to adversity and he's very resilient. So again that's
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Speaker 2: what people should expect out of him. And that's why
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Speaker 2: I believe that he's going to be, you know, one
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Speaker 2: of the great eagles for a long time because again,
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Speaker 2: how he looks at life is these experiences in our
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Speaker 2: heart when he's gone through. So now it's just all
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Speaker 2: about him figuring it out and I have no doubt
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Speaker 2: that it will.
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Speaker 1: So he says to you, coach, I'm not going back
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Speaker 1: to Nigeria. What was your reaction.
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Speaker 3: He gave me goosebumps.
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Speaker 2: Honestly, it gave me goosebump because I can feel, you know,
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Speaker 2: the desperation when he told me this, and uh, you
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Speaker 2: know again I can relate to him. You know, I
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Speaker 2: grew up inner city South Florida, growing up in Miami
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Speaker 2: and had a lot of.
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Speaker 3: Challenges with myself.
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Speaker 2: So I really saw myself in him, and uh, that's
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Speaker 2: why I believe in Dif from day one.
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Speaker 3: So I have no doubts he's He's never some great stuff.
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Speaker 1: Now, how did he first get onto your radar because
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Speaker 1: you said when he did, he still was a be
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Speaker 1: I believe you said two years younger than the required
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Speaker 1: age for the combine.
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Speaker 3: Sure, so I got to give some pops to market man.
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Speaker 2: Market is our international scout, and you know, we got
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Speaker 2: a lot of guys who actually work on that side
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Speaker 2: for Pat long, but no, Martin's our international scout and
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Speaker 2: Mark founded him.
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Speaker 3: And you know, he was a former basketball player. I
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Speaker 3: joke around with him.
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Speaker 2: I'd imagine if he was, you know, a really good player,
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Speaker 2: he'd still be playing basketball. And I joke around and
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Speaker 2: I'm like, were you out there just getting rebounds? Like,
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Speaker 2: just be honest, were you shoogaring the ball? You just
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Speaker 2: getting rebounds? But he was, you know, playing basketball growing up.
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Speaker 2: Clearly he don't look like a basketball player, so you know,
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Speaker 2: it worked out perfect him to get this opportunity. But
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Speaker 2: ye know, Mark actually founded him a while back, you know,
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Speaker 2: and we host the some some regional camps in Africa
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Speaker 2: every year, so that's where he was first found. And
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Speaker 2: again from that day he never looked back. And like
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Speaker 2: I said, that was the interesting thing. He was not
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Speaker 2: old enough, but he had a year to kind of
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Speaker 2: develop his own sense of what he thought football was,
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Speaker 2: and so he put it in a lot of work,
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Speaker 2: you know, right, So again he's not coming from a
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Speaker 2: guy who was off the street who did nothing and
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Speaker 2: got drafted.
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Speaker 3: Like he trained himself.
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Speaker 2: He had a trainer, you know, a local trainer of again,
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Speaker 2: whatever their perception was, he did speaking vigility stuff. So
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Speaker 2: you know, he he was introduced to you know, weights
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Speaker 2: and in football, you know, in his own capacity, and
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Speaker 2: which was great because by the time he got a
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Speaker 2: chance to work us started in October, he had no bad.
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Speaker 3: Habits and for him, it's just getting the reps.
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Speaker 2: So I'm excited by, like say, for him to be
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Speaker 2: in the room with Jalen Carter, Jordan Davids and those
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Speaker 2: guys and then to talk about striking blocks and being
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Speaker 2: nasty and you know, the physical tackles.
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Speaker 3: He's gonna fit in well with everyone.
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Speaker 1: And were you staying in contact with U are during
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Speaker 1: that year period sort of holding period while he was
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Speaker 1: training and was you know it wasn't quite old enough yet.
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Speaker 1: But before that that training combine, sure.
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Speaker 3: It was limited, you know, his limit communication. You know,
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Speaker 3: he would reach out to me on Instagram.
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Speaker 2: He wanted videos you know, and just asked me for
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Speaker 2: clips and drills and things that he could do to just.
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Speaker 3: Work in the meantime.
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Speaker 2: So you know, he was able to take all of
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Speaker 2: those different things and work on it, and which gave
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Speaker 2: him a great foundation, you know, from a guy who
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Speaker 2: had never played the sport. So you know, I'm excited
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Speaker 2: for him. He got a clean slate and his mows
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Speaker 2: and great stuff.
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Speaker 1: Now six foot four, three hundred and six pounds, six
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Speaker 1: percent body fat, and he moves well for his size.
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Speaker 1: How did you and who really arrived on defensive tackle
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Speaker 1: for him? Because with that kind of athleticism and traits,
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Speaker 1: you would think that he could play right tackle or
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Speaker 1: he could play a number of different positions.
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Speaker 3: Sure, so he was a line of coming off safe
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Speaker 3: and sizes.
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Speaker 2: And again, I've been blessed to work with so many
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Speaker 2: great guys over the years, from from man from Nick
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Speaker 2: Bonito being one of the top pass rusers in the
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Speaker 2: NFL today to Jaylen Phillips, who was you know just
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Speaker 2: recently with the Eagles, to you know, Greg Russo and
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Speaker 2: and just so many guys over the year. So you know,
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Speaker 2: I think he fit physically and agility wise, he fit
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Speaker 2: amongst some of the top guys who played now, so
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Speaker 2: I thought it was pretty pretty pretty evident. You know,
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Speaker 2: when I got a chance to meet him and work
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Speaker 2: with that, he did a defensive you know, we did
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Speaker 2: a difens alignment, and you know, I think he can
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Speaker 2: be a guy who's versatile playing different schemes as he
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Speaker 2: continues to learn the game.
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Speaker 3: But I think right now what the strengths are just.
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Speaker 2: Being mean and physical, and again he does move well enough,
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Speaker 2: so he'll be a defensive tackle, you know, the start
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Speaker 2: off as NFL here.
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Speaker 1: Now, I think back to the phone conversation that we
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Speaker 1: had back in April where you shared with me this
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Speaker 1: story from the pre training combine in October from October
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Speaker 1: in London. You have to share that story again.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, like it.
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Speaker 2: It's so crazy, man, because again I was excited the
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Speaker 2: day of the showcase because I went up to a
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Speaker 2: bunch of my guys who you know, were scouting around
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Speaker 2: the NFL, and I'm like, this guy's looking on the
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Speaker 2: show and I felt good knowing that he was going
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Speaker 2: to do it, because not only you know, we got
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Speaker 2: a chance to identify him back in October, but I
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Speaker 2: had a chance to you know, prepare him for this moment.
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Speaker 2: And I was a guy who leading the divers aligned drill,
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Speaker 2: so it couldn't have been even you know, a seamless
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Speaker 2: opportunity for him to you know, not only be developed
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Speaker 2: by the guy who's evaluating and putting me through the things.
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Speaker 2: So it was a great opportunity. But yeah, we evaluated
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Speaker 2: him back in October. And you know how this the
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Speaker 2: NFL sponsored by NIKI. They sent us a bunch of
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Speaker 2: gear for the guys and he was in size eighth
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Speaker 2: and a half shoot, so.
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Speaker 3: We had fleets in the size, but somehow order got
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Speaker 3: mixed up.
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Speaker 2: We did not have any shoes, so we were trying
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Speaker 2: to figure out how we can work around the testing,
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Speaker 2: right because we're there to test, to evaluate them through testing.
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Speaker 2: So he was able to do all the on field stuff, forties,
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Speaker 2: you know, broad all the different things. So when it
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Speaker 2: came time to do divert and the bench press all
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Speaker 2: this indoor stuff, he didn't have any shoes, so he
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Speaker 2: often just do it in socks. And I was like, well,
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Speaker 2: this should be interesting, you know, see what he can
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Speaker 2: do in socks and man, back in October, this dude
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Speaker 2: jumped in thirty eight verb so what he did in
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Speaker 2: late March was, you know, just just a true testament
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Speaker 2: of the work and that he's putting over you know,
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Speaker 2: his time of learning the game. But also you know
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Speaker 2: with the guys at X three, you know who will
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Speaker 2: work with him on the strength, condition to side and
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Speaker 2: the work that they put in. Because he was again
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Speaker 2: jumping thirty eight in October, he did thirty five reps
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Speaker 2: on the bench. Like interestingly enough, he did thirty one
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Speaker 2: at the combine, but he stopped like he could have one.
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Speaker 2: We pretested two weeks before that he was doing forty
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Speaker 2: on the bench. Like our goal going into this was
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Speaker 2: he was going to be the first guy ever at
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Speaker 2: a NFL combine to be in the forty forty club,
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Speaker 2: and the forty forty club was going to be forty
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Speaker 2: reps on the bench. And took forty reps on the
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Speaker 2: bench and forty vert and he missed the vert by
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Speaker 2: and then she jumped at thirty nine, and again he
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Speaker 2: just he led up on the bench and I think
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Speaker 2: you know, he he he was super excited. He was
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Speaker 2: giving all his energy out there, but he could have
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Speaker 2: definitely done more. Man So again, what you've seen is
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Speaker 2: not even close to the best that you're going to say,
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Speaker 2: who are because he has five six, seven levels to
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Speaker 2: grow as an athlete. You know, he's only been doing
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Speaker 2: this really from a professional standpoint for the past what
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Speaker 2: three three and a half four months, So again, once
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Speaker 2: he gets an offseason under his belt and works on
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Speaker 2: some more things, he's going to be more explosive.
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Speaker 3: So it's gonna get spooky spooky and Philip.
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Speaker 1: Now in working with him, Javon, what did you perceive
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Speaker 1: to be the for that initial hurdle that you had
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Speaker 1: to clear when you started working together.
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Speaker 3: I think for him it wasn't anything physical.
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Speaker 2: I think it was really just him adjusting being away
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Speaker 2: from home, like that was really one of the biggest things,
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Speaker 2: because physically, you know, again he compares to some of
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Speaker 2: the best. Mentally, again, I think he has some challenges
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Speaker 2: with adjusting being away from home and still to this day,
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Speaker 2: like this dude has had the greatest opportunity over the
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Speaker 2: past a couple of weeks to get drafted.
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Speaker 3: He hadn't even had an.
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Speaker 2: Opportunity to go back home and see his family, So
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Speaker 2: you know, I know that's a lot on him, but no,
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Speaker 2: I don't think that there was much of anything.
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Speaker 3: Man.
15:55
Speaker 2: He came in with a clean slate, great dude, humble, hungry,
15:58
Speaker 2: and that he wanted he want to work for everything
16:00
Speaker 2: he had, So for him, it was really just adjusting.
16:03
Speaker 2: So another funny story, he had never eaten port before.
16:06
Speaker 2: And we have, you know, a chef who would come
16:09
Speaker 2: out of cook for our guys every day during pre
16:12
Speaker 2: jaft and I don't remember what the meal was, but
16:14
Speaker 2: it was something that had pork, and he had never
16:16
Speaker 2: eaten port. And he had like a stomach bug for
16:18
Speaker 2: like two days and he was just out of it.
16:21
Speaker 2: And it was funny because, like I said, he loves food.
16:24
Speaker 2: And one day we had pancakes for breakfast. I'm like,
16:27
Speaker 2: how did you enjoy that? And he was like, I
16:28
Speaker 2: hated it. I was like, you hated pancakes, that's unheard of.
16:32
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, what do you typically eat
16:33
Speaker 2: for breakfast? And he was like, I drink bread. I
16:36
Speaker 2: drink tea and eat bread. So that's why that's crazy.
16:39
Speaker 2: Like my son's going to get on that regiment tomorrow
16:42
Speaker 2: drinking bread and look like that. But nah, man, he,
16:46
Speaker 2: like I said, he he had some adjustments with the food, right.
16:49
Speaker 2: He loves he told me it's traditional food is Joel
16:51
Speaker 2: off rice and beef. You know, that's traditionally what he
16:55
Speaker 2: eats on the regular. So again, things like that, which
16:57
Speaker 2: would be an adjustment for all of us, are some
16:59
Speaker 2: things that you know he'll continue to grow in. And
17:01
Speaker 2: I told him it's a lot of great food in Philly,
17:03
Speaker 2: so he'll find some stuff. So guys find some other food,
17:06
Speaker 2: not just not jeering food, but put them on some stuff.
17:08
Speaker 2: He gotta get a Philig steak. You know, he don't
17:10
Speaker 2: know what he's missing, man, So it's gonna be fun.
17:12
Speaker 2: But now he's he's he's a fool lover for.
17:14
Speaker 1: Sure, so am I. So I look forward to having
17:16
Speaker 1: those conversations with him during the season. But but what
17:20
Speaker 1: did you mentioned poor Javon? But what did his diet
17:23
Speaker 1: evolve into when he started working with you?
17:26
Speaker 2: Sure, so he was on a really strict guy because
17:29
Speaker 2: in our free draft program, our goals. We want to
17:31
Speaker 2: train these guys by track athletes, right, everybody wants to
17:33
Speaker 2: run fast. So what he did in pre draft will
17:36
Speaker 2: be a little different than what he does going throughout
17:39
Speaker 2: the rest of his off season now that he won't
17:41
Speaker 2: have to do with testing him.
17:42
Speaker 3: But he was a little bit of everything. Man.
17:44
Speaker 2: He told me that predominantly back in our year, he
17:47
Speaker 2: only ate beef, chicken and excuse me and fish.
17:51
Speaker 3: Those are the only things, you know, three proteins that
17:53
Speaker 3: he would eat.
17:54
Speaker 2: But he ain't little bit of everything man from from
17:56
Speaker 2: I want to say, yeah, excuse me, maceroni. At some
17:59
Speaker 2: point as potatoes, he had some steak, and you know,
18:03
Speaker 2: you got to opportune to eat a lot of different food.
18:05
Speaker 3: You know, we had a great chef by the name
18:06
Speaker 3: of Miron Uh.
18:07
Speaker 2: You know, Ron's from Jamaica, so you know he saws
18:10
Speaker 2: it up real good and man and put a little
18:12
Speaker 2: Ribbean swing on it. So he had opportunity to try
18:14
Speaker 2: some good things and he found some things that he
18:16
Speaker 2: did like.
18:17
Speaker 3: But again it's all new to him, so it'll take
18:19
Speaker 3: them a job.
18:20
Speaker 1: So you'll have to set the scene for us. The
18:22
Speaker 1: training took place at X three performance in Fort Myers.
18:25
Speaker 1: I know that that's sort of a hub for ipp players.
18:28
Speaker 1: Jordan Malata, you mentioned trains there and visited frequently. What
18:32
Speaker 1: did the training consist of? How many days and what
18:35
Speaker 1: were the hours?
18:36
Speaker 2: Oh man, it was a it was a nine to
18:38
Speaker 2: five literally, like these guys got in they were introduced
18:41
Speaker 2: what it means to be a pro real quick and
18:43
Speaker 2: that's one thing we talked about when we evaluated these
18:45
Speaker 2: guys in London was that, you know, it's a huge
18:48
Speaker 2: workload to be a you know, to be a professional athlete.
18:52
Speaker 3: So they got introduced real quickly.
18:53
Speaker 2: And it was six days a week and these guys
18:55
Speaker 2: are rooming from eight am to five pm. And their
18:58
Speaker 2: days were a little bit longer than the guys in
19:01
Speaker 2: our in our prejift program, you know, coming out of college,
19:05
Speaker 2: because for them, we were starting from scratch. So we
19:07
Speaker 2: literally watched film every day, we got on the board
19:10
Speaker 2: and chalk talk every day. So you know, their days
19:12
Speaker 2: were much longer than everybody else because you know, they
19:15
Speaker 2: were starting from a negative and we just needed to
19:17
Speaker 2: catch up.
19:17
Speaker 3: So it was a lot of long days.
19:19
Speaker 2: And they got real monotonous for about twelve and a
19:22
Speaker 2: half weeks, like by them that week before the combine,
19:24
Speaker 2: like they were itching and he was itching, man, he
19:26
Speaker 2: was ready to get out there. And you know he
19:28
Speaker 2: had been seeing the same people for weeks and eating
19:31
Speaker 2: the same foods for a couple of weeks.
19:33
Speaker 3: Men, and they got real monotonous.
19:35
Speaker 2: But it was you know, it was composed of all
19:37
Speaker 2: of the different answer learter trainings that it takes to
19:39
Speaker 2: be professional, from speeding, agility, to strength and condition and
19:43
Speaker 2: to recovery. You know, that's one thing that actually provides.
19:46
Speaker 2: They have a great recovery staff and these guys had
19:49
Speaker 2: access to that day in and day out, so from
19:51
Speaker 2: massages to the whole nine, from infrared signed us to
19:55
Speaker 2: you know, tubs and the whole nine. Man, so he
19:58
Speaker 2: got a chance to you know, get recovery every single
20:00
Speaker 2: day as well as the position of trending and that
20:03
Speaker 2: was a huge part of this process for.
20:05
Speaker 3: Him again just continue to learn the game of football.
20:07
Speaker 3: So it was twelve.
20:09
Speaker 2: Weeks, nine to five, six days a week, and it
20:13
Speaker 2: was stuff. You know, they went through a real camp
20:16
Speaker 2: and I actually, ironic got I just got out the
20:19
Speaker 2: phone with Josh before we started this meeting and he
20:21
Speaker 2: said that, you know, he was very thankful that a
20:25
Speaker 2: lot of the things that we did in our camp
20:26
Speaker 2: with atter he got is translated to him being with
20:29
Speaker 2: the Eagles.
20:29
Speaker 3: Now, so it will seedless. Man. It was it was
20:31
Speaker 3: a lot, but you know it paid off now.
20:34
Speaker 1: I imagine for someone who's never played football before, the
20:36
Speaker 1: hand usage and alignment is probably the most daunting aspect
20:40
Speaker 1: of that position. How did you go about simulating that
20:43
Speaker 1: in training?
20:44
Speaker 3: Oh? Man, we struck.
20:46
Speaker 2: We struck the sleds every day. That was one of
20:49
Speaker 2: the things we got. We got one of those. It's
20:51
Speaker 2: a new sled, but it's an old foul sled, right,
20:53
Speaker 2: and it's a sled that really focusing on driving power
20:57
Speaker 2: through the ground. So one of the there's different types
21:00
Speaker 2: of sled. So for all my football enthusiasm and defensive
21:02
Speaker 2: line lovers, you got plenty different sleds, right. We got
21:05
Speaker 2: sleds where we have to really focus on driving through
21:08
Speaker 2: our hips. That we have certain sleds that really focus
21:10
Speaker 2: on extension and disengaging. So the sled that we started
21:14
Speaker 2: off with was a ground sled and it was low
21:16
Speaker 2: to the ground and they had to really focus on
21:19
Speaker 2: striking through the hips locking out of their hands. And
21:22
Speaker 2: this sled was not retractable, so it wasn't moving. So
21:26
Speaker 2: that's the thing that we joked about earlier. He was like,
21:28
Speaker 2: I'm so glad that we hit that hard sled.
21:30
Speaker 3: Josh.
21:31
Speaker 2: He said, I'm so glad that we hit that hard
21:33
Speaker 2: sled because when I got here easy, So that was
21:36
Speaker 2: one thing that I knew would be a transition from
21:39
Speaker 2: never striking blocks.
21:40
Speaker 3: So that was one thing we did day one. Again,
21:43
Speaker 3: we went six days a week, so some days were
21:45
Speaker 3: low impacts, some days were you know, high intense. But well,
21:48
Speaker 3: that's one thing we did ever, We were striking blocks.
21:50
Speaker 2: So that's that's one thing you got to be able
21:51
Speaker 2: to do in the field as a DEVS alignment is
21:53
Speaker 2: you know, oulder gap.
21:56
Speaker 3: Integertary and you know, be able to get off blocks. Man.
21:59
Speaker 2: So every so I'm so happy that they had a
22:02
Speaker 2: chance to do that because they rolled right over to
22:04
Speaker 2: you know what they're doing now.
22:05
Speaker 1: With eagles, and he was striking trees as well, right.
22:09
Speaker 3: Hey, with his bare hands. Bro.
22:10
Speaker 2: Like I said, we have the luxuriest strike sleds. We
22:13
Speaker 2: even wear gloves sometimes, but man, just do with striking trees.
22:17
Speaker 2: And they blew my mind and me seeing those videos of.
22:20
Speaker 3: Him, you know, the year prior to them coming to
22:21
Speaker 3: the word work with us, I knew he was going
22:23
Speaker 3: to be good.
22:23
Speaker 2: Because anybody who's willing to do that, you want to
22:26
Speaker 2: be successful, and that's what the NFL wants. We want
22:28
Speaker 2: guys who want to be great, and you know who
22:30
Speaker 2: are willing to put lay everything out on the line
22:32
Speaker 2: to be successful.
22:32
Speaker 3: So he fits perfectly with what we do.
22:36
Speaker 1: I understand that Jordan Mylta was present pretty often at
22:39
Speaker 1: X three during who Are Josh's training? What was his
22:43
Speaker 1: message to those guys?
22:46
Speaker 2: Sure, Now, Jordan was was a great asset to those guys, man,
22:50
Speaker 2: and I'm sure they'd give a lot of credit to
22:52
Speaker 2: him really just through you know, getting through that process.
22:55
Speaker 2: But he really just talked about what it meant to
22:58
Speaker 2: be a pro and just winning every single day, you know,
23:00
Speaker 2: and not taking this thing for granted. And I don't
23:02
Speaker 2: think that's something he had to explain to them because
23:04
Speaker 2: between Josh and u R again, they were super motivated
23:08
Speaker 2: on their own.
23:09
Speaker 3: But you know, like I said, it was.
23:10
Speaker 2: Some long dog days and again his experience being an
23:14
Speaker 2: ig P alum was phenomenal, you know, and to really
23:17
Speaker 2: give them some insight on how to get through it.
23:19
Speaker 2: So again, he was vital to this process with them,
23:22
Speaker 2: and they loved working with him, you know, he was
23:24
Speaker 2: he was able to teach them offense from a different perspective, right,
23:27
Speaker 2: And that's one of the things that we went into
23:29
Speaker 2: this year.
23:29
Speaker 3: Starting the program.
23:31
Speaker 2: I go with I wanted them to learn offense first,
23:34
Speaker 2: and once they learned the basically of offense, the fundamentals
23:36
Speaker 2: of blocking schemes, then I would teach them how to
23:38
Speaker 2: attack it.
23:39
Speaker 3: And Jordan played a huge part of that.
23:41
Speaker 2: Every day man coming in and you know, working with
23:43
Speaker 2: those guys, get up some pass sets and you know,
23:45
Speaker 2: some different angles, and again it really accelerated, you know,
23:48
Speaker 2: their learning curves.
23:49
Speaker 3: So he did a great job at them.
23:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think you also have to look at
23:55
Speaker 1: just the pre draft process and Clint Hurt leading up
23:58
Speaker 1: to the draft. Did you have any contact with Clint
24:01
Speaker 1: because I know that he went out to Florida to
24:04
Speaker 1: work out who are and Josh prior to the draft?
24:09
Speaker 3: Sure? No, so I did that. We didn't speak prior
24:11
Speaker 3: to the draft. I got a chance to work with Clinton.
24:14
Speaker 3: He had in the Senior Bowl.
24:15
Speaker 2: So I'm one of DEEPCS alignment, you know, I'm sorry,
24:16
Speaker 2: DEFs A line coaches have worked with the Senior Bowl
24:18
Speaker 2: and so I got a chance to work with him,
24:20
Speaker 2: and you know, this is my first opportunity to get
24:22
Speaker 2: to know him, and I loved it, you know, and
24:24
Speaker 2: he he he is exactly what needs fiery guy, you know,
24:30
Speaker 2: he embodies the fundamentals of what it takes to be
24:32
Speaker 2: a dominant defense alignment. So again, a great guy and
24:35
Speaker 2: it couldn't be a great situation for But no, we
24:37
Speaker 2: didn't speak up until the draft. But I got a
24:39
Speaker 2: chance to work with him before. And you know, I'll
24:42
Speaker 2: go up to training camp at some point as we
24:45
Speaker 2: get started and get opportunity to work with him and
24:47
Speaker 2: the guys and you know, really kind of help, you know,
24:49
Speaker 2: make sure that there's REGREWITTI but to what you know
24:51
Speaker 2: Clint is doing and what we'll continue to do the offseason.
24:54
Speaker 3: So I'm so excited to get out there to Philly.
24:56
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, reach out. When you do, we'll have to
24:58
Speaker 1: grab lunch or something out there.
25:00
Speaker 2: Now, I'm I'm all for I'm on Forard Man. They
25:01
Speaker 2: say you're the man with a plan, Drew, So you
25:03
Speaker 2: take me.
25:05
Speaker 1: So let's fast forward day three of the NFL Draft.
25:09
Speaker 1: That's coming to the latter stages of draft weekend. Where
25:12
Speaker 1: are you when? Who are here?
25:14
Speaker 3: Is his name called? So?
25:16
Speaker 2: I was at home my family, right. I had been
25:19
Speaker 2: in Fort Myers for the past three and a half months.
25:21
Speaker 2: So my wife was like, you ain't gonna nowhere, But
25:23
Speaker 2: I wanted to be there. I wanted to you know,
25:25
Speaker 2: be expending time at the draft, but I was home,
25:27
Speaker 2: man in front of the TV, locked in popcorn an
25:30
Speaker 2: of soda, and my heart dropped, man, and I just
25:34
Speaker 2: there was so many different emotions at that moment, and
25:37
Speaker 2: I was just so elated for him, and it meant
25:39
Speaker 2: so much to me to really have front row seats
25:42
Speaker 2: over the past three and a half months to you know,
25:44
Speaker 2: his success.
25:45
Speaker 3: Man.
25:45
Speaker 2: So I was so excited, and we talked a little
25:47
Speaker 2: bit later on that evening and he was just so overwhelmed,
25:50
Speaker 2: and you know, it was cool seeing him that way,
25:52
Speaker 2: and you know, I was so excited.
25:54
Speaker 3: For him, man, But it was a great moment we
25:55
Speaker 3: shared for Shure.
25:57
Speaker 1: Now, if there were ever a player a place to
25:59
Speaker 1: land for someone who's never played football before, it would
26:03
Speaker 1: be in Philadelphia. They really pride themselves on player development.
26:06
Speaker 1: They have the infrastructure in place, and I'm sure you
26:08
Speaker 1: saw Howie Roseman's draft call. They're going to rally around
26:11
Speaker 1: him and they're going to surround him with a lot
26:13
Speaker 1: of support. And I go back to what you said earlier,
26:18
Speaker 1: you have a lot of confidence that you are going
26:20
Speaker 1: to be able to see this through. It's going to
26:22
Speaker 1: be a process. But what gives you that confidence that
26:24
Speaker 1: he's going to be able to sort of defy the odds.
26:27
Speaker 2: Again, it's just the cloth he's cut from a different cloth,
26:30
Speaker 2: and you know it would it might have been unfortunate
26:33
Speaker 2: growing up, but it's prepared him for the man he's
26:36
Speaker 2: going to continue to be. So I have one hundred
26:39
Speaker 2: percent confidence in him, just based off who he is
26:41
Speaker 2: and get all that.
26:42
Speaker 3: He's endured and all that he's worked for.
26:45
Speaker 2: So I'm excited for him because he really is one
26:48
Speaker 2: of those guys and like I said, he compares to
26:50
Speaker 2: all the greats, you know, and all of the greats
26:52
Speaker 2: had to say, you know, same story at some point,
26:55
Speaker 2: you know, started off and just wanted to be great
26:57
Speaker 2: and want to learn. And what's more, and you know,
27:00
Speaker 2: not only you know is he changing his whole life,
27:01
Speaker 2: but he has like his village and his country you know,
27:04
Speaker 2: on his back, and you know he takes that with
27:06
Speaker 2: great pride and he knows that this opportunity is way
27:09
Speaker 2: bigger than just for him, but just everyone he represents.
27:13
Speaker 3: So now I'm excited for him, and he's going to
27:15
Speaker 3: do good stuff.
27:16
Speaker 1: Now, Rookie Minnie camp is typically an orientation around the NFL,
27:19
Speaker 1: but it was really special for Leurs the first time
27:22
Speaker 1: he stepped on an NFL field at first football practice.
27:25
Speaker 1: Did you hear from him? Did he give you any
27:27
Speaker 1: feedback on those two days went.
27:29
Speaker 3: For He told me it was artist hit.
27:30
Speaker 2: It was a hard day, and you know, we spoke
27:33
Speaker 2: day one, man and but he was like, you know,
27:35
Speaker 2: I'm just excited to be here and I'm so thankful.
27:37
Speaker 3: So for him, it's like, you know, it.
27:39
Speaker 2: Was challenging because again it's the adjustment of learning defense
27:43
Speaker 2: and learning you know, defensive calls in the verbiage that
27:46
Speaker 2: goes along with what they do in Philly because it changes.
27:49
Speaker 3: Everywhere you go.
27:49
Speaker 2: And that was one thing that I was intentional about
27:52
Speaker 2: up into this process. You know, I put a cap
27:55
Speaker 2: on what I was going to share with them because
27:59
Speaker 2: it changes then where you go, and I didn't want
28:01
Speaker 2: to confuse him or anyone else. But we talked about
28:04
Speaker 2: the fundamentals of all defense, and you know, from there
28:07
Speaker 2: I was I was confident that cleanning those guys can you.
28:09
Speaker 3: Know, get him up to speed.
28:10
Speaker 2: But we spoke day one and he he was excited
28:13
Speaker 2: to be out there, and he talked about it.
28:14
Speaker 3: You know it was challenging for him.
28:16
Speaker 2: Again, just continue being the first time, you know, just
28:19
Speaker 2: the pace and what does that look like?
28:21
Speaker 3: And you know what does it mean to go full speed?
28:23
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28:25
Speaker 3: So you know, good things just for him, just to
28:28
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28:29
Speaker 2: His goal is just continue to stack consecutive the day,
28:32
Speaker 2: so it'll keep doing it all.
28:34
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Speaker 1: Now, we were out there for the first day and
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Speaker 1: he clearly got a lot of one on one attention
32:17
Speaker 1: and a lot of work because they're only I believe
32:20
Speaker 1: three defensive linemen. There there was who are there was
32:22
Speaker 1: a tryout player and Gabe Hall who's been on the
32:25
Speaker 1: Eagles for a couple of years. So he got really
32:27
Speaker 1: invaluable coaching from Clint Hurt. I would imagine those those
32:30
Speaker 1: two days.
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Speaker 3: Sure he did, and he loves Clint Man.
32:35
Speaker 2: He couldn't have been with a better coach, and you know,
32:37
Speaker 2: I know their relationship will continue to grow and clinical
32:40
Speaker 2: continue to pour into him as he does with all
32:42
Speaker 2: his naps alignments. So again he's in a great community
32:45
Speaker 2: of guys. So I'm excited about that.
32:47
Speaker 1: Now, as far as you're concerned, will you and Clint
32:49
Speaker 1: sort of be in contact in between you know, OTA's
32:53
Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp and then that gap where the NFL
32:55
Speaker 1: goes dark for a month and a half until a
32:58
Speaker 1: training camp.
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Speaker 3: Sure? Yeah, and that's the goal, you know.
33:02
Speaker 2: I I'll coortinuite to just be a resource for him,
33:04
Speaker 2: especially we are, and just continue to work alongside Clinton,
33:08
Speaker 2: make sure that there's a congruency, like I said, between
33:10
Speaker 2: you know what he needs to continue to work on,
33:12
Speaker 2: you know, outside of the building, and then continue to
33:14
Speaker 2: help him learn the playbooking just to fund the ins
33:17
Speaker 2: and outs of what you know, play deeps the line
33:19
Speaker 2: so well worked side outside of the next couple bunch
33:21
Speaker 2: of shit.
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Speaker 1: You also mentioned Josh, and I'm very particular. I always
33:25
Speaker 1: have to make sure I get the pronunciation right on
33:27
Speaker 1: last names. Is it we room or is it we're
33:30
Speaker 1: where Josh were where? Okay, good, we got it. Everybody
33:34
Speaker 1: could hear it. And that's how you say, So, how
33:36
Speaker 1: did he first get on your radar.
33:39
Speaker 3: Same thing man we Josh was founding out of camp.
33:42
Speaker 2: Josh is a former rugby player, so you know, he
33:45
Speaker 2: was one of the guys that we evaluated in London
33:46
Speaker 2: last year who had a little more experience because he
33:49
Speaker 2: played a you know sport It's not football, but it
33:52
Speaker 2: you know, translated into physicality, you know, some speed stuff.
33:55
Speaker 3: So Josh is another.
33:57
Speaker 2: Guy that I'm so high on and I'm so excited
34:00
Speaker 2: for it because I think he truly has an opportunity
34:03
Speaker 2: to be, you know, really successful and excel because Josh
34:07
Speaker 2: is a He's cut from a different cloth as well,
34:09
Speaker 2: and you know, has a great family background, family down
34:13
Speaker 2: that He's a super inquisitive, intelligent guy. He's from Kenya,
34:17
Speaker 2: so they're from you know, Joshua wat from different different places.
34:19
Speaker 2: But again, super great guy, student of the game. It's
34:23
Speaker 2: so funny that you know, he watched so much of
34:25
Speaker 2: Nolan Smith's film leading up until, you know, leading up
34:29
Speaker 2: into the combine for him to get drafted to I'm
34:31
Speaker 2: sorry to sign to the Eagles.
34:32
Speaker 3: And you know, again we spoke earlier. You know, he
34:35
Speaker 3: told me.
34:35
Speaker 2: Been practicing with Nolan and just how you know, gracious
34:39
Speaker 2: he is at this opportunity that he had to get
34:41
Speaker 2: studying this guy's film for weeks.
34:43
Speaker 3: So now josh is another one who Eagles.
34:46
Speaker 2: Fans should expect big things from because he's going to
34:48
Speaker 2: be a really good, really good football player over time.
34:51
Speaker 2: He's super explosive, six' four way IN i think about
34:55
Speaker 2: two point fifty ran four to four from striking. Blocks
35:00
Speaker 2: and So Josh Joshua world is definitely a name to
35:04
Speaker 2: consider and just continue to get to know because he's
35:06
Speaker 2: going to be a standout as.
35:07
Speaker 1: Well what was it About nolan's film that he was
35:10
Speaker 1: particularly drawn?
35:10
Speaker 3: To it was the body, size.
35:12
Speaker 2: Right he felt that they had similar metrics and he
35:16
Speaker 2: wanted to just continue to. Learn you, know he watched
35:19
Speaker 2: All demons in, linement all guys From Jeff simmons To Nolan, smith,
35:23
Speaker 2: right two different body, types two different positions on the,
35:26
Speaker 2: line because you can really, learn you, know.
35:28
Speaker 3: Different things from everybody and how they approach.
35:30
Speaker 2: It so he got opportunity to watch a lot of,
35:32
Speaker 2: guys but he really enjoyed Watching Nola smith just because
35:35
Speaker 2: of what his game looked like To, josh like what
35:39
Speaker 2: that looked like to.
35:40
Speaker 3: Him and then body size and. Measurables he thought that.
35:42
Speaker 2: He kind of fits some of the same, mold being
35:44
Speaker 2: six to, four super twitchy and, explosive and they really
35:47
Speaker 2: do have a lot of similar in Tangible SO i
35:49
Speaker 2: think that that's a great uh guy going to learn
35:52
Speaker 2: from over the Next over the next a couple of,
35:54
Speaker 2: years that.
35:55
Speaker 1: Phenomenal they trained together and you could see on social
35:58
Speaker 1: media that they were really happy and absorbing the moment
36:02
Speaker 1: alongside each other joining THE. Nfl how did they push
36:05
Speaker 1: each other in training.
36:08
Speaker 3: Every?
36:09
Speaker 2: Day and that's one thing THAT i enjoyed is that
36:12
Speaker 2: they brought the energy and they competed.
36:14
Speaker 3: Day in and day out at, everything.
36:15
Speaker 2: Right they competed in the weight room from, lifts they
36:18
Speaker 2: competed when it came down to you, know the skilled
36:21
Speaker 2: drills that we're doing auxillary, drills and they competed day
36:24
Speaker 2: in and day, out and they really did push each.
36:26
Speaker 2: Other so we really had no surprise, that you, know
36:28
Speaker 2: those two for sure would get this opportunity just because
36:31
Speaker 2: of how the. Works and, Again bernard's a natural born
36:35
Speaker 2: leader And joshua is a guy who has a lot
36:40
Speaker 2: of things to. Say he's again he's very, intelligent and you,
36:46
Speaker 2: know he's very humble and he's also.
36:48
Speaker 3: Fired.
36:48
Speaker 2: Right he may not come off as that type of,
36:51
Speaker 2: guy but he has that in this thing like he's
36:53
Speaker 2: a very, fiery you, know put his hands on your
36:56
Speaker 2: urgent type of.
36:57
Speaker 3: Guy SO i can't wait to see that.
36:59
Speaker 1: Chance, now last thing for, You, javon AND i do
37:02
Speaker 1: appreciate being so gracious with your. Time you either worked
37:05
Speaker 1: with or still work With Josh ushe a former ego
37:09
Speaker 1: who is now with The Miami. Dolphins BUT i very
37:12
Speaker 1: much enjoyed covering. Him he was a pleasure to cover
37:15
Speaker 1: and a great. Guy are you still working with? Him
37:18
Speaker 1: what's he up?
37:19
Speaker 3: To?
37:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Man. Josh josh is one of my, guys,
37:22
Speaker 2: man because he's A South florida, kid. Right we grew
37:24
Speaker 2: up in the same. City so you, KNOW i love
37:27
Speaker 2: all my, guys but My South florida, guys the guys
37:29
Speaker 2: who grew up WHERE i grew. Up you, KNOW i
37:30
Speaker 2: got a near, place dear place in my heart for these, guys,
37:33
Speaker 2: man because you, KNOW i feel LIKE i am done
37:35
Speaker 2: and we represent you know what it means.
37:37
Speaker 3: To grow up In. Miami but, nah, Man josh is still. Rolling.
37:39
Speaker 2: Man i'm glad that you know he got another opportunity
37:41
Speaker 2: to seek the guy In hunt And josh it was
37:44
Speaker 2: some great.
37:44
Speaker 3: Stuff.
37:44
Speaker 2: Man he you, know he has some good time In.
37:47
Speaker 2: Philly but Now, josh he's he's a he's a great.
37:50
Speaker 2: Bro and, uh you, KNOW i suspect you suspected the
37:52
Speaker 2: good things from him as. Well and another one one
37:55
Speaker 2: of my guys who's a great addition Is John John
37:58
Speaker 2: gunnard J. G.
37:59
Speaker 1: Man oh, yeah, yeah he's a guy who worked with.
38:02
Speaker 2: Him he's a great addition man To philly and he's
38:05
Speaker 2: going to bring so much balance to that locker room
38:07
Speaker 2: because he's a great.
38:08
Speaker 3: Bro he's gonna be a great vet to all those young.
38:10
Speaker 2: Guys and you, Know john was one of the vets
38:14
Speaker 2: to another one of my, Clients Dallas turner out In,
38:17
Speaker 2: minnesota and you, Know dallas spoke so highly of.
38:20
Speaker 3: Him and you, know AGAIN i got an opportunity to
38:22
Speaker 3: start working with J. G maybebout four or five years.
38:24
Speaker 3: Ago he was still In. Houston but he's a great
38:27
Speaker 3: guy AND.
38:27
Speaker 2: I, think you, know added him to that room in
38:29
Speaker 2: that locker room is just going to accelerate. It AND
38:32
Speaker 2: i Think eagles be right back to the, contention no.
38:34
Speaker 2: Doubt from a defensive standpoint and hunting after the. Quarterback
38:37
Speaker 2: they're going to be right back where they left off
38:39
Speaker 2: a few years.
38:39
Speaker 1: Ago will you be working With Jonathan grenard before training?
38:43
Speaker 3: Camp?
38:44
Speaker 2: Oh, always, man. Always john's a guy who wants to
38:46
Speaker 2: put in, work and you, know he's a student of
38:48
Speaker 2: the game and he's always trying to get. Better so you,
38:50
Speaker 2: Know i'm pretty Sure i'll see it on some point.
38:51
Speaker 1: Offseason AND i still feel like THERE'S i know that
38:54
Speaker 1: he's been in the league for a. While he turns
38:55
Speaker 1: twenty nine this, month but to, me watching him, play
38:59
Speaker 1: you can attest to this better than. ANYONE i still
39:01
Speaker 1: feel like there's another level that he could.
39:02
Speaker 2: Reach oh, yeah trust, me we have not seen the
39:05
Speaker 2: best Of John. Gnard his best football is ahead of
39:08
Speaker 2: him AND i guarantee. That AND i think this scheme and,
39:10
Speaker 2: System i'm, sorry this scheme is a system you know
39:13
Speaker 2: UNDER VICI i think he's going to do great things
39:15
Speaker 2: and playing collectively with a great group of guys is
39:18
Speaker 2: just going to elevate his. Game so, again expect another
39:21
Speaker 2: propos about.
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Speaker 1: All, right and when next time you speak to Josh,
39:26
Speaker 1: usha please tell him THAT i, said.
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Speaker 3: HELLO i, GOTCHA i got, you all?
39:30
Speaker 1: Right, well there's all the insight you can imagine ON. U.
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Speaker 1: R bernard And JOSHUA wereu To Philadelphia, eagles and there's
39:37
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of eyes on them in training
39:38
Speaker 1: camp That i'm sure a lot of intrigue with both respective.
39:42
Speaker 1: Players SO i hope you enjoyed that special edition Of
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Speaker 1: The Checko daily For Javon. Gopi I'm Andrew decheco And
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Speaker 1: i'll catch you all on the next.
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Speaker 2: One