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Go-To Fisting Hole: The Force Awakens Teaser & Walking Dead Telltale · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  [Music] welcome to multiple
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  nerdgasm your destination for all things
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  nerdy so I hope you all enjoyed our last week throwback episode uh this time
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  we're back for another live episode that's right well well it's live as
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  really live pre-taped and pre-edited where do we get Live Well it's live now
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  but by the time anyone hears it it's not live it's it's not something it's not
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  something we recorded 3 4 years ago no it's no but it will be something we
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  recorded three or four weeks ago by the time people hear it well that's not true
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  still it's as live as we've ever been yeah we've never been more
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  live it was crazy going back and listening to that what we used to sound
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  like I know sound quality ter all used to be in the same room yeah it's very
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  different when we're in the same room we talk over each other a lot more and we
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  laugh a lot more because we're looking at each other's facial
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  expressions yeah we can't do that now so we just let each other talk and easy to
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  get the one thing yeah and now we're talking over each other now but that's
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  the weird thing we're talking over each other more back then when we could see
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  each other yeah that's because um I think when you're sitting across the
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  table from each other two people can be having a conversation and then two the
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  two other people can kind of continue to talk whereas on Skype you can't do that
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  like no cuz you as as evidenced by the last five minutes as soon as two people
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  start talking at the same time no one knows what's going on anymore but and
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  then everyone just stops that's right so I think as weird as we thought it was
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  going to be Skype helped a bit except for right now obviously where
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  it's causing problems yeah this is a disaster but other than that it's been great
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  thanks now I know we've got a lot in the spreadsheet here for us to discuss but
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  should we just get into Star Wars sure
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  yeah I mean Dave's not here so I guess we can talk about it all we
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  want so I guess you all saw the trailer yeah I think if anyone listening hasn't
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  seen the trailer then you need to unsubscribe to this podcast like
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  honestly if it's been 2 weeks since that trailer dropped and you haven't watched
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  it then you're not enough of a nerd to enjoy this podcast so we can't make you
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  stop listening but if you listen from now on you'll know that you're doing so
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  against our Express wishes yeah yeah so
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  there's there's a new Star Wars uh I was actually refreshing the page the apple
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  trailers page a little bit um the day before it came out waiting for it cuz
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  they didn't say what time it was going to come out um and then I ended up
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  watching it first thing in the morning and I was pretty disappointed
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  the first time I watched it I got to say interesting I watched it a few times
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  in quick succession and I got excited by
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  it yeah and I mean that I got excited oh I I see what you're implying there Luke
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  uh you you got erected y I guess is what you're saying yes yeah interesting yeah
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  uh no I was excited too although not erect um because at my age it's uh you
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  know sometimes it's it's a bit hard to get there but um you do what you can yeah you know
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  um but um you know the over 50s it's just it's just been hard it's been hard
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  to achieve and maintain sorry how old are you if I can
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  segue into something else real quick I I did something today that I haven't done
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  since I was a child right right and that's that I accidentally got soap in my
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  urethra is any have you done that recently it is so incredibly pain not
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  recently neither had I and I I ducked home from work cuz I had a meeting off
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  site and then I ducked home cuz I needed to pick something up and I was like [ __ ]
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  it I'm going to have a quick shower and I think it was because I was R [ __ ] I'm
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  going to wash inside my P but I think I don't know my technique
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  was off or something but I got soap in my Ure thr and [ __ ] did it hurt how did
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  you get it out just well that's the thing that's the thing how the [ __ ] do
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  you flush out your dick hole I was trying it I was just like my
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  plan after a kind of a failed attempt to to wash it out was to just drink a
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  fuckload for the rest of the day and just spend the rest of the day slowly
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  peeing myself back to health
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  [ __ ] freak well it is a little strange maybe we need to have a docking special
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  edition episode I mean we can't talk about docking without Dave
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  right yeah I would have I mean we need him well the request specifically was
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  for Dave to do a segment on docking right well that is specific yeah exactly
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  I mean I'm glad people are getting getting interested but you know like I
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  mean we've got a lot of really important things to say about docking too so
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  whoever said that yeah it's a little insensitive okay well I don't want to say who
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  is so yeah well I um I emplore you not
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  to all right fine but yeah it's an official request from a listener so um
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  let's add that to the um 100th episode list yeah all right good point good
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  point all right so back to um R2-D2 on a beach
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  ball yeah yeah yeah that I wasn't too excited about someone was done got a
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  tattoo of it yep y so that that's uh I just posted that in the show notes yeah
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  I don't know man look here go ahead mat well I think the main problem the first
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  time I saw it was I had some issues with the trailer buffering and I was forced
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  to watch the little Droid soccer ball
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  guy about five times so basically I saw the start where it's just the desert and
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  I was like okay cool that's tne and then the Stormtrooper guy pops up and I was
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  like right I don't know what that's about at all and then cuts the little
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  Droid and then it would freeze and then yeah about five times I had to go g go
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  back to the start cuz it's yeah well that's not ideal look I'll admit it I
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  was I was on board from the start and I was psyched and I loved it and I was
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  really excited and you know I'm not letting myself get
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  too invested in this because you know like it might just it might be a [ __ ]
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  movie might just be an average movie I don't know yeah you know I did like the
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  the Star Trek reboot I thought that was pretty good if it's if it's even that good I'll be
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  happy and I mean this is like they've only just finished principal photography
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  right and I assume they've been working on some effects in the time being but
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  probably most of that will be done now so what we saw was just a a little taste
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  of what's already been done and I'm sure that's a tiny tiny fragment of of you
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  know what they're working on really yeah we have year and 13 days until we get to
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  see this movie yeah 17th and to clarify I mean I was
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  disappointed in the trailer I think I was I wanted too much from the trailer
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  and uh I guess well the two things that put me off the most were the little
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  Droid and also the new lightsaber all right well I've got I've got com on that
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  lightsaber made sense to yeah me too in a world where everyone who wields a
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  lifesaber lightsaber eventually gets their hand cut off I think a hilt is a
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  really smart
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  addition well yes except the I mean the
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  way that they get their hands chopped off that we've seen it wouldn't protect
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  against and as far as I can tell when you when two lightsabers hit each other
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  they don't slide they kind of stick so it's I don't know it's I mean my
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  understanding of or my my observations of lightsabers in the film so far in the
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  do I don't know yeah I don't well I don't see I don't see how it has any use
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  and the other thing is although um Steven colar did a little segment where
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  he he explained around he explained why he thinks this this isn't an issue um
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  but if you look at the way it works it's sticks out from the side so if if
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  another lightsaber did slide down the blade of your lightsaber it would just
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  cut through the handle and his ex you know what I mean
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  like yeah I see what you're saying and he pointed out
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  well the um the blade doesn't come from the the openings on the side it comes
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  from inside it's all part of the same beam and it gets split so the beam the
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  beam continues inside the metal so the the three prongs are linked and so if
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  you were to cut down through the metal you would just hit lightsaber yeah
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  that's how that's how lasers work yeah I'm sure of it yeah well that except
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  we've also seen lightsabers get chopped in half before so I don't know and you
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  know what it doesn't [ __ ] matter it just I saw it and I went oh I'm not
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  entirely sure they've put that much thought into it no I my first thought
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  was just oh I'm not a lightsaber gimmick I didn't we didn't need that like
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  so I didn't mind it I I don't see in context in context it might be fine it
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  was just a thing that I didn't it didn't need it I don't think and I think to put
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  it to not show a whole lot of anything but to show that I think was a bit I
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  don't know it might not even look like that this is so early and it's just a
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  teaser not an actual trailer um and might I remind you do you know
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  what for anyone who was disappointed with this teaser because they expected more from
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  it can I tell you what was a great trailer what film had an absolutely
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  stunning fantastic trailer please go ahead The Phantom Menace I know I knew
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  right like that trailer gave me [ __ ] goose bumps every time I watched it yeah
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  and that was like seeing seeing that movie
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  was I don't I've got no metaphor but um you're right I and I did think that as
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  well I remember I was like oh remember when I saw the trailer for The Phantom
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  men I was so excited and H that didn't work out so maybe this is for the best
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  yeah that's right look I mean here's here's what I took away from from this
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  trailer number one the world of star Star Wars is populated by women and
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  minorities you know which just highlights the differences between
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  making a film in the late 7s and making film in 2014 no problem with that I
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  didn't even notice that but you're right there was that's all that was in the
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  trailer yeah that's right um there's drama even in the photography of this in
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  a way that the prequels didn't have like yeah that shot of the troops in the
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  carrier and that camera's handheld and there's kind of this kind of kinetic
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  energy before they you know I mean it was like a it was like the Normandy
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  Landing or something when that yeah door came down like That's so exciting like I
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  don't know where they're going or whether they're good guys or bad guys I
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  know nothing about the context but it was just dramatic and exciting and
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  there's nothing like that in the prequels nothing at all yeah yeah
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  agreed I think my favorite scene in that teaser trailer was the x-wings oh yeah
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  and then just that close on the guy's face that just took me straight back to
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  Empire Strikes Back yeah Oscar Isaac's too he's a great actor mhm I did wonder
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  if it just reminds me so much of West Jansen in the Empire it's just and that
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  part just made me I don't know I know I shouldn't be getting excited looking
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  forward to this but I am and I've been let down so many times one other thing
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  one other thing that was a bit I don't know it I was
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  like I I didn't pick up on that's what it was until later but there's no space
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  in the trailer at all all of the the ships are like so
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  interesting the x-wings are flying above like a a body of water of some kind and
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  then the the Falcon is in the atmosphere of it looks like TN cuz it's sand but
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  that there was no space which I don't know I like would
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  have expected there to be some maybe but I guess it just depends on what they're
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  working on first so one thing I just appear occurred to me and I think it's
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  ABS why they they on tatto yeah that the other thing I don't know just forget it
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  well it's a planet in the middle of might be tat it could just be a desert I
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  mean the way that planets work in the Star Wars universe is that every planet
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  only has one terrain so if anyone from the Star Wars world ever came to the
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  planet Earth their first thought would be holy [ __ ] this one planet has
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  multiple terrains what is this look this area here is like tne but look it's the
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  forest Moon of Endor over here
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  yeah now look to me this trailer the takeaways from this trailer are look
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  we've got new characters we've got new robots but we've also got ships you'll
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  recognize characters you know that you'll recognize old and
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  new yeah I mean that's what that's what I want I just got one the other thing
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  yeah I wanted to see some of the some of the stars as well that was that was one
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  other thing I wanted I wanted to see I wanted to see what mark will look like
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  you want to see Carrie fish's old wrinkled body in the slave girl costume
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  no I want to see I want to know what she looks like in this film I was there's a
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  lot of leaked well not leaked there's a bunch of photos of Mark Hamill with a
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  beard with a hood on with like a a robe on and I think most of them are
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  photoshopped but I was expecting a bit of that in the trailer as well and when
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  I didn't get it I was a bit like oh yeah I mean I'm assuming I like what
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  they showed I'm assuming that there's going to be like one scene where
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  whichever the characters are in this movie go
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  somewhere and are greeted by the elderly cast yeah you know and I'm kind of
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  hoping that it's that too because I really don't want this to be K Kingdom
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  of the Crystal Skull and like old Han Solo is following them everywhere yeah I
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  know what you mean I I'm sure we'll see probably the
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  next trailer will probably W be out in about 6 yeah they say that this they say
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  that the trailer will be out uh is going to premiere in Age of Ultron oh okay so
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  may yes so we've got about 6 months before that trailer and then another six
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  months or so before the film okay well look at least we'll have something to
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  chew on in the meantime yeah and I mean it's okay I I'm I'm aware of I'm
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  self-aware enough to know that I was just expecting more from it and that and
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  I watched it again a couple times afterwards I'm like no it's fine it's
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  just a couple of things that make me go I don't know because of the lightsaber
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  and the the Droid I don't know seemed a bit prequal to
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  me yeah we'll see I I will I'll give you the Droid no I don't want it I see no
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  point in having a soccer ball drawing yeah I don't I just don't understand why
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  that what is that why is that I it possibly an homage to a great old
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  science fiction movie called Dark Star oh yeah if anyone's seen that where
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  they're actually they're correct where there's a literal beach ball right I'm
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  okay with that only people that have seen Dark Star know what I'm talking
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  about and everyone else is going there's a beach ball and what what
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  what the alien in the movie is played by literally a beach ball right it's CU
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  darkar cuz Dan benon wrote Alien and um yeah the plots are actually very similar
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  I've heard you see I know a fair bit about darkar I've actually never seen it
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  I should watch it well rather than watching Dark Star you should watch the
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  documentary on Dark Star on the making of it you see pretty much the whole
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  movie right okay uh but it also gives you like a really good insight into how
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  they put it together because it's a student film that they made at Uni right
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  and um they were doing so well that halfway through it the director I think
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  it's is it cronenburg shopped it around to some local cinemas and they bought it
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  kind of like a pre-sale and said yeah we'll play play this once it comes out
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  and here's some money and they use that money to finish it off and make it a bit
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  better a bit longer yeah right Co cool absolute classic but the whole trucker
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  in space thing that everyone equates to alien is from this too right well yeah
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  okay same rer well sort of if you watch the behind the scenes for alien they um
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  there's a bit of conflicting opinion on the um origins of all the the good bits
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  of alien if you yeah sure absolutely but there's also and I think we may have
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  even talked about on this podcast there's there's an old movie from the
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  early 50s and I think it's called it the creature from Bas or something like that
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  which is the exact plot of alien right like a a ship picks up a distress signal
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  they check out another ship it's abandoned except for an alien creature
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  which then hops onto their ship and then systematically kills the crew one by one
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  and they they even kill it in the last scene by shooting it at the airlock well
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  I mean that's how you kill stuff in space yeah that's how I do it yeah it's
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  easy way to do it yeah well that's that's how uh that's how they're going
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  to have to do it on their way to Mars hey Luke did they call you did you
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  get the call uh not yet but they're they're probably busy just designing a few
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  things they don't need me there yet well but you you should go into training now
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  though Luke just start yeah going for a run in the morning or you know yourside
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  down on the Seesaw yeah yeah um and please fill the paperwork out this time
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  yeah don't just pay the 30 bucks and leave it at that all right yeah so for
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  those who don't understand what the [ __ ] we're talking about which NASA yeah NASA
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  have announced and I mean I think they've talked about this before but
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  this is kind of a bit more official um they're sending people to Mars there
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  well they're planning to send people to Mars and there's a timeline uh and um
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  some pretty exciting imagery I found the imagery to be exciting I would agree but
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  you know what's the most exciting part about this for me is that this is NASA
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  this is not some private Enterprise M you know funded by billionaires this is
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  NASA really kicking it up a notch and it's just really inspiring to know that
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  somebody is taking this space exploration seriously again yeah yeah
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  because I mean a lot of people have said oh you know it's all very well for them
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  to say that but NASA's as much as um they say they're crippled by funding
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  they're more crippled by the fact that they need to make all their different
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  parts relevant within the organization and you know they had a perfectly
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  they've had a perfectly good plan to send people to Mars years ago and and it
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  all just fell fell apart because every division needs to have their say and
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  it's it's there's too much bureaucracy and all this kind of stuff and you know
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  maybe that's true but like they've done so much [ __ ]
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  awesome stuff and it just I don't know I just like who the [ __ ] else is going to
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  do it like you said there's all these private companies and and companies like like
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  SpaceX now they can launch stuff into space like better than anybody ever has
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  before but that's all that they do they don't do anything else so you know that
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  that's good take that away from NASA and let NASA do the the the kind of
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  groundbreaking sciencey [ __ ] stuff like you know cuz we don't have the
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  technology to do it yet so I think rather than people saying oh you know
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  the private companies will get their first I think personally I think it's
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  more likely that the private companies will take care of the stuff that NASA
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  would have had to worry about before and they can go well here you go build the
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  rockets that get us up there and we'll focus on the the human transport uh like
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  that the Orion vessels the um mhm the new human Transportation vessels and stuff like
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  that like I don't know is anyone else slightly creeped out by the use of the
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  word human in this context I I don't know why I know NASA tweeted we're
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  sending humans to Mars and like not we're sending people to Mars you know
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  what I mean not we're sending as to Mars we're sending humans to Mars I don't
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  know it's just too I
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  agree it it also it takes away like kind of it's not vague at all they're like
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  they're saying no no humans we're sending humans people can't go oh they
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  mean they just mean another probe or theyan you know they mean whatever no
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  humans right but but humans as opposed to what but I know you mean probes but
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  like humans to me implies What could they send you know what I mean yeah
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  right sending bonobos I think what we really need to we need to have some
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  [ __ ] deadline like they did for getting to the Moon Yeah well yeah no no
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  you're absolutely we're going there by the end of the decade we need that well
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  the only reason we went to the moon is because we had to beat Russia well sorry
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  America had to beat Russia like and let let's all right America bring throw get
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  out there Australia we want we challenge you to a race
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  tomorrow yeah and the winner I they going to win but the winner will get a
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  Borderlands Tales of Borderlands uh yeah
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  key you want this game get on it buddy that's the competition first first
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  country to make human landing on Mars but I love this picture right so they
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  we'll put this in the show notes they put this image up which is is I mean
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  it's it's propaganda I guess of sorts it's says Journey to Mars with this
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  fancy Mars you know like the Little Star Trek looking a very it's very Star Trek
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  looking like this is like it's science fiction this image and it's got it says
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  technology exploration science and it's
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  all like Earth with stuff flying over towards Mars and it's got International
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  Space Station um space station launch system uh what we solar electric
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  propulsion asteroid redirect Mission orbiters
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  Landers like uh what does that say that text is too blood Mars transfer
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  spacecraft Mars transfer spacecraft in space
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  habitat that's what it says but those three words Mars transfer spacecraft
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  like that's exciting yeah the fact that they and they've drawn a little picture of
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  it what I'm nervous about is the asteroid redirect Mission yeah so
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  they're going to the like in um 2020 something they're going to attempt send
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  robots to redirect an asteroid into orbit around the moon so that they can
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  they can then send people up in the new
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  um transport shuttle sh they're going to put asteroids in orbit around the Moon
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  yeah they're going to the biggest and most impressive juggling act the world
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  yeah I know well they did just land a I mean obviously will that be visible from
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  Earth I [ __ ] hope so that would be cool yeah imagine looking up at the moon
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  and seeing these Little Orbits did just land a little thing on a comet which I
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  guess was good practice although I mean yeah yeah so I don't know yeah we don't
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  need to go to it anymore it's also kind of terrifying cuz if it doesn't work the
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  moon's a lot yeah the moon's not too far away so well I mean it is but it isn't
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  were you worrying they're going to [ __ ] up the moon no they're going to launch
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  it's going to skip past the moon straight into us all right yeah so I
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  don't know but yeah I mean this is this is just cool man man like yeah I don't
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  know there's a little picture of Hubble on there as well we've got it all in
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  there all the cool stuff and
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  um yeah 2030 something they reckon sending they'll send people over not too
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  far away no I mean we might still be alive yeah theoretically yeah you know
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  all going well we'll still be alive well let's hope so we're not going to be that
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  old no that's what I mean but I mean impotent but you know that's true
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  all going well well stop with the SL
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  yeah I just can't yeah try tobasco
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  sauce tried it oh yeah well there's some probably there's some things in the UK
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  you might not be able to try anymore that's true a whole bunch of sex acts
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  have just been banned in the UK not across the board in
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  pornography but it's pretty funny what's what's up for Banning now but they can't
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  show this in pornography at all you want to hear the list you want to hear the
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  list of things that you're not allowed to watch in the I do and this this this
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  includes things you're now not allowed to buy on DVD and watch On
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  Demand um and here's the list spanking caning whipping penetration by
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  objects quote associated with violence quite no well that means that's kind of
• 26:23
  vague and specific at the same time I think it means no Bill
• 26:27
  Cosby um there's a game called St tro where there's a dildo gun so that's now
• 26:32
  associated with violence so no dildos is that now physical and verbal
• 26:38
  abuse uh water sports role playing as
• 26:43
  non-adults physical restraint humiliation female ejaculation
• 26:49
  strangulation face sitting and
• 26:53
  fisting that's interesting the female ejaculation thing is
• 26:59
  because I mean I I know there's debate over whether what it is and what it
• 27:04
  isn't um but that's interesting that can be for another podcast but yeah I'm you
• 27:10
  know you don't want to go into it they haven't banned male ejaculation no
• 27:15
  that's what I'm saying yeah yeah yeah I just uh I don't know well like I said I
• 27:20
  mean some people there as far as I'm aware there's some uh some discussion
• 27:26
  around what female ejaculation is and whether it's you know a thing or not but
• 27:31
  uh by me yeah it's interesting that they're taking that stance and just chucking it
• 27:37
  on the list there yeah that's right it just seemed out of place with a lot of
• 27:42
  the other things that are on the yeah cuz everything there seems to be about
• 27:45
  violence or or kind of negative things whereas I don't know I like it it's not
• 27:51
  just whipping it's aggressive wh yeah that's right so you can't spank you
• 27:55
  can't cane but you're allowed to whip as long as it's not aggressive yes unless
• 27:59
  your whipping transcends into spanking or caning physical or verbal abuse
• 28:04
  regardless of if consensual well I I assume that that applies to everything
• 28:09
  because surely it's all consensual well yeah go a good point
• 28:15
  like only one of them says regardless of consent but I'm I'm assuming that
• 28:20
  spanking without consent is always been frowned upon surely fisting without consent for
• 28:26
  example would be yeah yeah yeah it's just an interesting
• 28:32
  list and I just I mean that one just stands out to me as as odd like they
• 28:37
  kind of taking a stance when they put that on there you know what I mean yeah
• 28:42
  yeah oh interesting and so what what is what happens if um if I watch that in
• 28:48
  the UK well I think it's going to be a matter of um you know DVDs being pulled from
• 28:54
  shelves and uh online services being or it just to sell it well I mean there's
• 29:01
  guidelines about that kind of stuff here that are kind of ignored as well like
• 29:05
  xrated content is actually banned here in Australia but you can go into a sex
• 29:10
  shop and buy an XR DVD um right off the shelf but chances
• 29:15
  are every 6 months that shop will probably be raided by the cops you know
• 29:20
  so they know it happens but it just continues yeah I know it's it's you are
• 29:26
  able to buy in the ACT that's why I moved here originally yeah that's
• 29:30
  right but some things like this role playing as non adults that's been the
• 29:34
  law here for quite some time yeah you're not to depict you're not allowed to
• 29:38
  depict pedophilia in porn even if it's over 18s playing
• 29:43
  playing that does make sense absolutely
• 29:46
  yeah um yeah I like this um this dominatrix says I mean why ban face
• 29:53
  sitting what's so dangerous about it that's probably a bad example it's a out
• 29:59
  of all the things she could have chosen to get up on her high horse about yeah
• 30:03
  yeah exactly or High face
• 30:07
  about uh its power is symbolic Woman On Top
• 30:12
  unattainable wow sitting on my face slightly more attainable than sitting
• 30:17
  you know across the room yeah that's right oh I loving this quote from the
• 30:23
  append from the Independent by um Director Erica last who said we need to
• 30:27
  rethink what is offensive dangerous and what is in fact normal human nature and
• 30:31
  it's like well I mean yeah that's true but I mean I don't know if fisting is
• 30:36
  just human nature you know what I mean like I I agree with the sentiment but
• 30:41
  I'm not sure about the specifics of it it's like I have the fist stuff it's
• 30:44
  [ __ ] human nature human nature you try not fisting obviously we all go home
• 30:49
  and piss on our wives but we don't want to watch other people do it I mean I
• 30:53
  want to watch other people piss on my wife but that's only because I've got
• 30:56
  certain issues that's right that I'm working
• 31:01
  through I mean physical or verbal abuse I mean that's one thing but consensual
• 31:06
  who wants to see that
• 31:10
  yeah yeah oh the final three listed fall under AE the bbfc views as potentially
• 31:15
  life endangering okay strangulation face sitting and fisting fisting yeah yeah
• 31:21
  like if assume there's stuff in your butt that you don't want to
• 31:25
  break I assume well are we hang on fisting fting what fisting
• 31:30
  anything I mean I obviously I went there cuz I I don't have F I don't have
• 31:35
  anything else to be you know before you've ever fisted
• 31:40
  his butts then that's kind of you go to fisting hle is it you know yeah I I you
• 31:44
  I work with what I know is the episode called goto fisting hole does
• 31:50
  it but yeah well I guess it applies to all fisting and um yeah humiliation I
• 31:56
  mean look what kind of Nanny state do we live in where I can't just relax and
• 32:01
  unwind at the end of the day by just watching One consensual adult fist another
• 32:07
  consent yeah yeah who's humiliated by it
• 32:12
  yeah and covered in
• 32:16
  Piss pretending to be a
• 32:22
  child no I do agree with that one the role playing as not adults because if
• 32:26
  I'm watching a um you know a pornographic film where um you know say
• 32:29
  a grown man is having sex with a child I want that child to be a real child and I
• 32:33
  don't want to be tricked by someone who's over 18 you know what I mean yeah
• 32:36
  absolutely so I agree with that that's false advertising for anything yeah yeah
• 32:42
  y well um I don't know uh if any of you
• 32:46
  listeners have been sorry I I should reord that we start again now some of
• 32:53
  the listeners have been more than kind and headed over to the iTunes page to
• 32:58
  give us a positive review and we really appreciate that um and I don't know just
• 33:03
  I should probably give you a warning I've taken a a page out of the book of
• 33:07
  um of some hotels in the UK and I've added to the terms and conditions on our
• 33:11
  website MH um if someone were to leave as a negative review on iTunes they will
• 33:17
  be fined several hundred
• 33:21
  oh it's an interesting that's great okay yeah so how does that work
• 33:28
  well I mean I I I I got the idea from um from a British Hotel uh the Broadway
• 33:35
  Hotel uh where Tony and Jen Jenkins stayed one night um they weren't happy
• 33:40
  with their stay and they took to Trip Advisor and left a review where they
• 33:45
  said the hotel was a filthy dirty rotten stinking H H powerful words so yeah I
• 33:52
  mean not the best review not the best review so they then found
• 33:58
  that they had been charged um a fee uh on top you know on their credit
• 34:04
  card um from the hotel because according to the terms and conditions in their
• 34:09
  booking document it says despite the fact that repeat customers and couples
• 34:13
  love our hotel your friends and family may not for every bad review left on any
• 34:18
  website the group organizer will be charged a maximum of £100 per review
• 34:24
  wow that some I mean um I mean I'm
• 34:29
  actually they've been told you can't do that now yeah I'm pretty sure just
• 34:34
  putting something in the teas and sees doesn't mean it just becomes law no the
• 34:39
  British that says the hotel has now altered its terms of service after local officials
• 34:44
  complained um and local politician says our trading standards team became aware
• 34:48
  of the issue last week as a result we've spoken to the hotel owner and asked for
• 34:51
  the policy to be removed which has now happened W now my question is this a new policy
• 34:56
  that I had in place or they been doing this making money of this for a while
• 35:00
  why why did they feel it was necessary to put that in there and actually I I'll
• 35:05
  this isn't the first case of this that I've read about either um I think and
• 35:09
  that's not just a little bit of a bad review that's like like these guys
• 35:13
  clearly didn't have a good time no that's right they yeah they were obviously
• 35:17
  um yeah thought the place was a [ __ ] hole yeah um and and I mean it's
• 35:23
  obviously worked against the hotel because now everybody knows like this
• 35:27
  could have just been a a bad review that most people probably wouldn't have seen
• 35:30
  and not worried about it but now the whole world knows about it because they
• 35:35
  try to charge the money for it I don't know it's just such a weird thing so and
• 35:39
  obviously I was joking if you want to leave as a negative review I don't
• 35:41
  [ __ ] care go on no don't I'll just go please don't yeah
• 35:48
  good point yeah I'll just flag it as inappropriate you can do that
• 35:53
  right I can get us banned off iTunes please don't get us banned from iTunes
• 36:00
  yeah please don't but yeah uh yeah I just this isn't the first
• 36:05
  um article I've read about hotels doing this I thought it was really interesting
• 36:09
  um and hopefully it goes away cuz that's [ __ ] stupid I mean that's really just the
• 36:16
  kind of business way of saying well [ __ ] you yeah that's right by the way we know
• 36:22
  it's [ __ ] but if you tell anyone we'll charge you $100 or P1 which is about $200
• 36:28
  that's [ __ ] fing a
• 36:35
  [ __ ] go go on where where are you seg
• 36:39
  going to now where you go with
• 36:43
  this did you know I I saw this article the other day oh the other week um and I
• 36:49
  just didn't know about this Ashton
• 36:52
  coocher um is a [ __ ] no no he he was
• 36:57
  dating a girl um and this is actually he was already famous at this time uh I
• 37:03
  believe like he he was he was in Hollywood he was acting and everything
• 37:06
  um so I don't know I don't know why I mean obviously I don't follow his career
• 37:11
  or all that but this is kind of interesting story U he had a girlfriend
• 37:14
  who was murdered um and he he went he he was trying to get hold of her and he
• 37:19
  couldn't so he went ran to her house and like looked in the window and saw what
• 37:23
  he thought was red wine spilled on the floor and thought ah she just got the
• 37:27
  shits and you know had a few drinks or whatever or come back later and um yeah
• 37:33
  it turns out no she'd been murdered and that was her
• 37:36
  blood Jesus yeah oh yeah like that's
• 37:42
  [ __ ] up I didn't know that yeah that is [ __ ] up not not just that she'd
• 37:46
  been murdered too but stabbed so repeatedly through the neck that her
• 37:49
  head was almost severed from her body yeah that's hardore oh God yeah I mean
• 37:56
  does this happen often enough that that we don't don't hear about and I'm not
• 37:59
  sure why well I mean it did happen often in the sense that it was a uh a serial
• 38:03
  killer yeah well that's the other thing too there's this serial killer that I
• 38:06
  didn't know about I mean it wasn't that long ago was it 2001 2001 but bear in
• 38:11
  mind that he didn't get arrested until 2008 [ __ ] hell and assuming that he killed people
• 38:17
  before that too and that she wasn't necessarily the first one yeah no that's
• 38:22
  uh that's a lot of people being killed apparently he was a local handyman and
• 38:26
  he would just start fixing stuff for people whether they wanted stuff fixed
• 38:29
  or not and then uh he'd fix them [ __ ] hell you think this would be a story
• 38:34
  that we would have heard her 201 did we just completely miss this well I mean
• 38:38
  like I said I don't follow you know Ashton cooa that closely but you keep
• 38:42
  saying that but yeah you know an awful lot about him but I know who he is and I
• 38:48
  mean I mean the story if I I'm sure if I saw this I would have been like Jesus
• 38:52
  Christ like that's full on yeah and it seems like um like this article is on
• 38:58
  Gawker and it the way that it's been framed the article is from um the 19th
• 39:02
  of November this year it seems like nobody knew about this yeah like it it's
• 39:07
  it kind of I guess was hushed because I mean probably I mean you know really
• 39:11
  it's it's a sad thing and it's it's horrible it's just I don't know it seems
• 39:15
  strange that this serial killer murdering Ashton cooch's girlfriend was
• 39:19
  a was like went under the radar yeah for for what uh six years she
• 39:25
  also dated Vin Diesel yeah I mean
• 39:32
  [ __ ] and jery sister who I have no idea who that is should I know who that is
• 39:36
  he's in a lot of stuff but he's not really a household name but you'd know
• 39:40
  him if you saw him okay yeah anyway I just I thought that
• 39:44
  was really interesting and not only that that led me um I think possibly from the
• 39:48
  comments on that article led me to another story that apparently I mean
• 39:53
  this comment a buzzfeed Loop that Matt disappeared into for a night
• 39:58
  Yeah well yeah um this one this one is
• 40:02
  is more questionable but um I like I mean List you can I'll put some links in
• 40:07
  the show notes and you can Google this and I mean enough people are talking
• 40:11
  about it I guess like it's an urban legend of if nothing else but apparently
• 40:16
  allegedly uh once while filming flipper here in Australia Jessica Alba when she
• 40:23
  was a Teen um was kidnapped after be receiving threatening phone calls and
• 40:29
  and being harassed by somebody um she was kidnapped from set um went missing
• 40:36
  for for quite a a while and then was found bound and gagged in the trunk of a
• 40:41
  car and they never caught the person who
• 40:44
  who did it now like I said I can't find any news articles or any legit links
• 40:51
  about it all I can find is a bunch of anecdotal like stories where people say
• 40:56
  there is an interview in a magazine where she mentions it it's so weird and
• 41:02
  in this article that you've sent us that we'll obviously put in the show notes
• 41:06
  it's just 50 things you didn't know about Jessica Alba I mean and this could
• 41:10
  be any 50 facts about that was the best source I could
• 41:14
  find scrolling down that okay so number 11 is in 1994 she landed her oil on a TV
• 41:21
  show called flipper number 12 Jessica was kidnapped she was found in the trunk
• 41:27
  of a car then number 13 she also appeared in Beverly Hills 90210 and it's
• 41:33
  like sorry go back there you you really do need to give me a bit more information on
• 41:37
  that whose [ __ ] car was she found in like check that
• 41:44
  out yeah so like I said I couldn't find too much on it if any of listeners have
• 41:47
  any more information on that only because I find it interesting actually
• 41:50
  that um something like that is is not you know kind of more widely reported
• 41:56
  consider she a big star now you know and considering that fact number 26 is
• 42:00
  Jessica's nickname ISS yeah who [ __ ] cares about that
• 42:05
  like yeah go back to the one where they found her tied and gagged in the trunk
• 42:10
  of someone's car yeah when she was like 14 years old yeah so such a strange
• 42:16
  story to have literally like no coverage unless it might just be an urban legend
• 42:21
  maybe it's [ __ ] and the reason that I can't find anything is that that all
• 42:24
  of the sources just link to each other and like if you look there's Yahoo
• 42:28
  answers where people say was Jessica Alba really kidnapped and then someone's
• 42:31
  like yeah she was like you know she'd
• 42:36
  still be in my car if it wasn't for you
• 42:39
  kids yeah so um I don't know some some
• 42:43
  dodgy Australian may have attempted to abduct Jessica Alba might have saved us
• 42:49
  from the Fantastic Four films failed now but seriously yeah if anyone
• 42:55
  knows any more about that I just let us know cuz it would be interesting more
• 42:59
  hear say you want you want more people that are not involved to weigh on this
• 43:05
  and in fact actually if you if there are any other interesting celebrity stories
• 43:08
  like that like send them in cuz I you know we talk about this [ __ ] can I just
• 43:12
  say though I've I've just followed this up by just going to Yahoo and says is it
• 43:15
  true that Jessica RBA has been kidnapped right um and I'm not going to go into
• 43:20
  detail because I'm I'm just going to make you wait while I sit and read this
• 43:24
  but just glancing at the second comment starts with the phrase I've been doing
• 43:29
  some extensive research on Jessica ala for a paper I'm writing in my English
• 43:33
  class now even without reading ahead what the [ __ ] yeah why are you writing a
• 43:40
  paper on Jessica Alber at all let alone for your English class and what kind of
• 43:46
  extensive research are you doing yeah see and I mean I got I got no problem
• 43:52
  with Jessica I quite like Jessica Alber in certain things like you know she was
• 43:56
  good in um ID don't the boot of a
• 44:01
  car I meant Idle Hands I first saw her in and I liked that film um and then
• 44:07
  obviously she's gone on to do you know shitty stuff later on but she was cool
• 44:13
  can I just can I read you the um but I don't want to write a paper about her I
• 44:18
  don't want to write a paper about it yeah please do so on Yahoo ansers is it
• 44:21
  true that Jesse Graber was kidnapped it's then got related questions on the side which are
• 44:27
  um has Jessica Alba gotten uglier um is it true that Jessica Alba
• 44:34
  slept with people to get her roles in movies oh and what bikini posters should
• 44:39
  I get Jessica Alba or Shakira oh so these are depressing
• 44:44
  questions that people need answer if they're the two options Jessica Alba but
• 44:49
  of course I followed through to What bikini poster should I get Jessica
• 44:52
  Albert or Shakira here are the answers the order yeah Shakira right Jessica Alba if
• 44:59
  I must answer well you must you don't have
• 45:04
  to um I'm a girl but I think you should
• 45:08
  go get one of Jessica Alba right then
• 45:11
  there's I hate bikini posters and then the final response
• 45:18
  you're posting this in the parenting session a section for parents of
• 45:23
  adolescence oh Jesus I love Yahoo is that's great see I'd like to do more
• 45:29
  stuff with Y anwers but I feel like I'm ripping off like maim bam and all those
• 45:33
  others maybe but I don't care I'm going ahead2 is it true Jessica Alber slip
• 45:38
  with people get her roles in previous Movies answer number one unlikely she's
• 45:42
  too good-looking to need to sleep with people to get what she wants uh
• 45:48
  right then I'm looking down not true Jessica Alba would never do
• 45:55
  that then there's this one actresses today don't do the cast Casting Couch
• 46:00
  thing anymore don't they yeah I'm sure that's true too
• 46:04
  yeah then there's I hope not considering the crap she stars
• 46:09
  in Zing all right yeah well obviously she doesn't do it anymore wellow I would think
• 46:16
  not then there's this one she's a great actress great is in all caps don't
• 46:22
  believe everything you hear all right and then there's this I
• 46:27
  don't believe great she's
• 46:32
  hot what is Jessica
• 46:37
  Alba I never thought we'd talk about Jessica Alber on this podcast I just
• 46:41
  want to say yeah what is she doing now I know that she um she did that staring
• 46:46
  competition um which was pretty cool I don't know what you're [ __ ] talking
• 46:51
  about didn't she do a staring competition on webcam with people I
• 46:55
  thought that was a pretty cool thing for her to do you know who did do a bit of a steering
• 46:59
  competition lately who's that shy abuff oh my God oh my God all right let's do
• 47:06
  this play the jingle yeah yeah who says
• 47:10
  play the jingle now oh yeah yeah um I I guess I'll um give it a go cue the
• 47:15
  jingle
• 47:21
  [Music] Maddie that's actually one of my favorite Jingles that I've done done the
• 47:27
  sh of buff jingle it is a great jingle yeah it was until I remembered uh some
• 47:31
  of the older Jingles like dwarf watch yeah that's right oh man there's a I got
• 47:36
  a folder full of old Jingles we should just do a remember that jingle segment
• 47:40
  at some point so we can revisit them definitely well why doesn't a 100th
• 47:43
  episode play yeah in fact you know what 100th episode needs to just be wall
• 47:49
  toall segments yep all right and we bring back everything we do MIM y we do
• 47:55
  kundun mhm we do you know everything just everything
• 48:00
  and we we play all the jingles mhm everything that has a jingle needs to
• 48:04
  recur so we need to do a Willam defo yeah it's got to be some Willam defo
• 48:08
  news y there's got to be some Sasquatch news someone's got to have some bu
• 48:14
  remorse yep yep yeah all right cool well I'll basically I'll go through the
• 48:20
  folder work out what Jingles we've got and then we know what we have to do yeah
• 48:24
  yeah build the episode backwards so who wants to talk about sh yeah please
• 48:28
  please I think we luk you were you've got quite a bit of backstory here why
• 48:33
  don't you get it started yeah I don't really have backstory I
• 48:38
  know says everyone else Shai's come out and said um remember when Shai went a
• 48:43
  bit nuts and had his that one performance art
• 48:48
  remember where he just sat in the room and said come in do whatever you want to
• 48:52
  me he won't speak and he won't do anything he just sit there and take it yep
• 48:57
  well he's now come out and said that uh during this time he was
• 49:02
  raped on Valentine's Day yeah here is what he said he said one
• 49:08
  woman came in with her boyfriend who was outside the door when this happened
• 49:12
  whipped my legs for 10 minutes and then stripped my clothing and proceeded to
• 49:15
  rape me there were hundreds of people in line when she walked out with disbled
• 49:20
  hair and smudged lipstick disheveled hair sorry oh and then he said that it was especially
• 49:25
  distressing because was supposed to have a date with his girlfriend later um
• 49:30
  although I mean I don't I just don't understand like I'm not quite sure why
• 49:35
  that makes the rap worse that's what I mean like no it would have been all
• 49:39
  right would been all right to had a
• 49:44
  date just I I don't really know what to make of this because I thought the whole
• 49:49
  point of this performance art if you can
• 49:53
  call it that um was that people were supposed to do literally anything they
• 49:59
  wanted to him and he was just going to sit there and cop it like didn't he say
• 50:03
  like come andit him with me with a crowbar and yeah
• 50:07
  like and and then I I mean someone else
• 50:13
  one of the other artists I forget who it was has come out and defended him to say
• 50:16
  look this actually did happen and when they worked out what was happening they
• 50:20
  came in to stop it and she ran out and I'm sort of that's leading me to
• 50:25
  believe that maybe it not so much a rape as uh she was going along with it he
• 50:32
  then said stop there was a bit of a and then she left
• 50:35
  which well there's a lot of spec a lot spe yeah I I don't really want to weigh
• 50:41
  in on this look I just think we know literally no details and
• 50:46
  also shab buff I mean it it could also
• 50:50
  just be not true you know like yeah but it's I mean it's interesting I mean is
• 50:55
  he really just going to stand there and and be like well I said I wasn't going
• 50:59
  to move so I guess I I guess I have to [ __ ] her now
• 51:05
  like I don't know it seems like it's
• 51:09
  it's not quite the same as you know a
• 51:13
  horrific rape you know like he could have done something we're on we're on thin ice
• 51:19
  here even just discussing this I mean if if you swapped genders around we'd be
• 51:24
  we'd be saying like no that's not on yeah you're right actually and if it
• 51:28
  wasn't shy AB buff we'd be saying the same thing too probably no no no but I
• 51:31
  would I'd still be saying the same thing because even if the genders were swapped
• 51:34
  right if it was a woman doing the performance art and somebody did that
• 51:37
  and they just were like wow well I can't do anything no come on like I'm not
• 51:43
  saying again not saying it's okay I'm just saying that to say that well you
• 51:49
  know I I said I wasn't going to protest so I couldn't protest doesn't that's not
• 51:53
  quite right you know what I'm saying like no no no but his attitude is fun
• 51:58
  it's it's you you don't have to have said no for it to be raped you just have
• 52:03
  to have not consented I agree like I think no person when they're stripping
• 52:07
  somebody off who hasn't kind of been into it or whatever is confused at all
• 52:12
  about whether or not the person's consenting sure so it doesn't become
• 52:16
  less rape because he didn't fight back or try to overpower her I agree but in
• 52:21
  any way that that you know if you get mugged and you don't try to bash the
• 52:24
  dude it's still a mugging you're right I you're right I'm not I'm not disagree
• 52:27
  with that at all I'm just saying I it's just very strange that he didn't do
• 52:31
  something you know what I mean is it though it's [ __ ] sh well and and yeah
• 52:36
  there you go the thing was already weird to begin with but I've got to say and I
• 52:40
  don't I don't want to victim blame here but no no no but but Shia is if if you
• 52:47
  are shy La buff and you say I'm going to [ __ ] put a bag over my head stand in
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  a room and why I want people to come in and do literally whatever they want to
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  me I'm surprised one person [ __ ] him yeah I mean that's what I would have
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  done just just cause yeah you know what I mean I would have abused that body
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  man cuz [ __ ] him you know yeah [ __ ] you sh I mean yeah if if it if it really
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  happened then that's awful I just it's just very strange here's one thing I
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  find very weird about it he's also said so um news of it sort of traveled
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  through the line and so if news have this traveled through the line we would
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  have heard about it before that's true well this wouldn't be somebody that's coming
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  out a year ler think someone would have mentioned it I don't know I I mean a I'm
• 53:32
  not even sure I really believe it was shy buff with the with the hood on no
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  people filmed people filmed um yeah people actually took photos you can look
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  up but wasn't he there for like a week like saying we don't believe it all that
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  he had just come and fill in I don't know maybe like I just don't know how much of this
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  is all still part of the performance art yeah including this article perhaps I
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  don't know purely speculation well did you see what he actually did when he
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  went and met the uh journalist oh yeah he went cuz this was all done via email
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  and then they decided to meet in person but they didn't want to take their sort
• 54:14
  of relationship they built up online they didn't want to ruin that so they
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  sat in a room with GoPros on their head and stared at each other for an hour
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  didn't say anything yeah he's a weirdo that's for sure and that's the other
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  thing it's not like he's not pressing charges or anything he's just tell he's
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  just mentioned this now he's just oh by the way uh some chick raped me while I
• 54:36
  was doing that like he's just he's odd I'll give him that yeah my girlfriend
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  wasn't very happy about it yeah and again like as far as I'm aware it's not
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  he's not looking to sue anybody or press charges or or anything like that he's
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  just it's just something that came up in the interview and he was like oh yeah
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  sorry I didn't mention that like h very strange well I've just I've just clicked
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  on a link called why did they just let shuff's rapist walk away if it loads in
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  time while we're still talking I'll uh no it's not loading forget it forget I
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  even said it no well I want to know I've let you all down I've let you all down
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  [Music] yeah um did you want to talk about
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  Dragon Age a bit we can talk about it but I haven't played it much um I I
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  haven't actually played it all right well I haven't played it a huge amount
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  I'm enjoying it but I guess we could talk about it later
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  have you got have you got stuff to say Luke I've only played the first 10
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  minutes and then went I need to give this more time and walked away from it
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  that's exactly what I did I'm going to try and play it over oh I need to give
• 55:37
  this more time I'm going to walk away well I have a pile of other games
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  I've got Grand Theft Auto 5 which I'm happy I brought that from Target when I
• 55:47
  did because you can't buy yeah do we want to talk about
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  that I think so banned has it there's
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  Target no the game still available for sale but Target and Kart have pulled it from their
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  shelves because there was an online petition about it was I don't know
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  glorifying violence against is that just here in Australia or is that worldwide
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  because like point out that in other countries Kmart SES guns it's Australia
• 56:14
  it's just Australia okay yeah yeah a sex a sex worker start a predition because
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  in the game you can actually have sex with a prostitute kill her and get your money
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  back okay you've been able to do relas in everything of Grand Theft Auto game
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  since G Theft Auto 3 yeah look I mean you
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  know obviously we I would don't encourage people to do that in real life
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  but I mean the game's been on sale for for what like how long yeah over a year
• 56:42
  now and no one's and it was just one petition and then now Target's like
• 56:47
  pulling it off the shelves and then Kmart's doing the same thing just
• 56:49
  baffles me how this is they've already made their money from I don't understand
• 56:53
  why this is happening they're not losing money they've made their money from the
• 56:58
  Xbox One version's out now right so or the the next gen one but really everyone
• 57:03
  who wanted it everyone who wanted it went out and got it two weeks ago when
• 57:06
  it came I just I don't know it's just such a strange thing like like why the
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  [ __ ] do they care now it's such a weird decision and what about all the other
• 57:14
  games I mean it's not the only G it's in a higher resolution now than it's ever
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  been before maybe it's maybe they've only just noticed I think a part of it
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  came from you can actually play the game in first person now ah and so I haven't
• 57:26
  tried it yet but you actually can pick up a prostitute in game and have sex
• 57:30
  with her in first person oh okay and I've been playing Grand Theft Auto since
• 57:36
  Grand Theft Auto one I still have not tried to hijack a car and kill
• 57:40
  anyone have you well I mean if you play properly you're supposed to try to avoid
• 57:45
  that yeah but I always go on little Rampages when I play them I mean that's
• 57:48
  all I do in them really I don't play the for story cuz it's it doesn't interest
• 57:51
  me I us no I haven't played it since San Andreas yeah Vice City was really good
• 57:57
  but San Andreas lost me Vice City is probably my favorite in
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  series yeah I mean I prefer the other Rockstar Games you know like red dead
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  and that kind of the same gameplay but just kind of better stories I I just
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  don't really care what like inner city [ __ ] are doing yeah crimes and [ __ ]
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  I just don't give a [ __ ] yeah I don't know I'm I'm playing through it again I
• 58:23
  I was disappointed with red dead that you couldn't [ __ ] Prost
• 58:26
  there were so many prostitutes in that game I don't mean just generally
• 58:30
  speaking I think every game you should be able to [ __ ] prostitutes I mean there
• 58:33
  were prostitutes everywhere like every Pub you went into there was prostitutes
• 58:37
  no joh Maron was a good family that's true that's true well I mean other
• 58:41
  people did you know murdered them and and and um slept with them yeah cuz
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  there was a thing about Red Dead in particular where one of the recurring um
• 58:52
  events when you go into town uh is some guy will be attempting to murder a
• 58:58
  prostitute and he like for I don't know he wants his money back or something and
• 59:02
  then he like stabs her and you can either stand there and watch it or
• 59:05
  intervene and um people were saying yeah but then well there's there's also the
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  mission where that woman runs away and you've got the option of helping her
• 59:16
  Escape or hog tiing her and taking her back to her abusive husband I
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  mean no I mean I understand the argument
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  but it's a game set in an era where that
• 59:29
  happened so yeah I don't you know like yeah obviously I don't think people
• 59:34
  should be going around and doing that now but they did at the time and that's
• 59:37
  when the game is set so I know I do but I don't understand you
• 59:43
  know like can we not we not one thing to say stop buying these buying these games
• 59:49
  for your children if you don't want to play violent games just don't buy
• 59:53
  violent games yeah yeah you're so maladjusted that you can't tell the
• 59:58
  difference between playing a game in real life then just stay the [ __ ] away
• 1:00:01
  from him yeah and if you don't want to see a game you don't want to see women
• 1:00:04
  being treated differently don't buy a game that's set you know 100 years ago
• 1:00:10
  yeah or 200 years ago whenever the [ __ ] Red Dead said like Yeah Yeah by uh Grand
• 1:00:16
  Theft Auto where women are treated with utter respect all right
• 1:00:22
  okay all right then uh you make you make a good point there um
• 1:00:26
  I would track my previous statement maybe there is a problem now I
• 1:00:32
  don't know it's just yeah but it's but there's as a lot of people are coming at
• 1:00:36
  saying it's not that game is not it's not about violence against women it's
• 1:00:40
  about violence against everyone it's like that hatred game that that everyone
• 1:00:44
  got upset about the trailer saying it's it's oh they it's like you kill blacks
• 1:00:48
  you kill whites too you kill everybody like they just yeah you kill everyone in
• 1:00:52
  that game I don't think that's a good game and I don't think be released but I
• 1:00:55
  don't see is particular I can't wait to play it it looks racist or sexist at all
• 1:00:59
  yeah yeah I'm going to kill indiscriminately that's the point of it
• 1:01:03
  though I know no like I If your argument was that you know killing
• 1:01:07
  indiscriminately is not something you should make a game about well that's one
• 1:01:09
  thing and you can have that opinion that's fine but if you or if the game
• 1:01:13
  literally go out and kill blacks or go out and kill women yeah that's pretty
• 1:01:17
  [ __ ] but that's not what the game is yeah don't misrepresent the game just to
• 1:01:22
  to put people off it like if if you've got a legitimate criticism of the game
• 1:01:26
  that's good like you know you're welcome to it I just
• 1:01:30
  think you know don't try and make it
• 1:01:34
  something it's not it's like it's weird we can't do anything anymore Dan
• 1:01:41
  no and like quite honestly now that I'm thinking about it I mean like you know
• 1:01:45
  not not that killing women is good but like you kill one woman in a game and
• 1:01:49
  there's newspaper articles everywhere every other game that's ever been
• 1:01:53
  invented you kill dozens and hundreds of men
• 1:01:56
  yeah yeah I know but there is a I mean again this is proba not a discussion we
• 1:02:02
  want to get too deeply into but there is an attitude that um White Men Can't Be
• 1:02:08
  oppressed or or you know like um discriminated against because we damn
• 1:02:12
  [ __ ] right we can't well that's what I'm saying because we we hold the power
• 1:02:16
  in the world you know what I mean so so it's it's not the same thing but then
• 1:02:20
  that's a double standard sort of so um but like but also I kind of see where
• 1:02:24
  they're coming from so it's confusing and I'm I don't like we to talk about
• 1:02:31
  this you know when somebody if somebody puts forward an argument that that women
• 1:02:36
  are being discriminated against and you disagree with them but you can't
• 1:02:40
  disagree with them because like you're hating on women even
• 1:02:44
  though you just disagree with their argument that kind of thing it's like
• 1:02:49
  man I agree with you so much that I'm not even going to weigh in in this
• 1:02:52
  conversation CU I know whatever I say will uh it will just not be right yeah
• 1:02:59
  yeah let's just let's uh uh let's let's move on there must be something else for
• 1:03:04
  us to discuss that we can't get in trouble for uh well I finished um well
• 1:03:07
  the only things left in the um spreadsheet is stuff about pedophiles and
• 1:03:14
  technology or um Matt finishing the walking dead so I think we should opt
• 1:03:18
  for that yeah I um I've finally played through season one of The Walking Dead
• 1:03:23
  the game not the not the TV series I've oh I've given up on the TV series um
• 1:03:28
  yeah so have I midseason 3 I think I stopped about
• 1:03:32
  midseason that's exactly where I stopped well there you go and that's not where
• 1:03:37
  it became boring that's just where I became aware that it wasn't ever going to stop being
• 1:03:42
  boring and the same thing happened every season with that it sort of gets to the
• 1:03:47
  middle slows down a bit then it picks up at the end and it's just nevering cycle
• 1:03:50
  so I just went I don't want to put myself anymore yeah I don't care and I'm
• 1:03:53
  kind of happy to not care now like I'm not invested in it so I think I'm just
• 1:03:57
  going to stay away um but the game uh the game well the games I guess how
• 1:04:02
  depending on how you look at them I played through the whole first season
• 1:04:04
  finally I played through the first three and I finished them off
• 1:04:09
  um and I like them have you guys played
• 1:04:12
  them no I haven't actually um I've yes I've played through the first one I
• 1:04:17
  haven't played the second one but I oh no sorry I got up to episode four I
• 1:04:21
  haven't finished episode five well I'm not going to spoil the plot or anything
• 1:04:24
  but I'll just talk about few things cuz I you know I talked about the Fable game
• 1:04:27
  as well um The Telltale Game um I I'll just I guess I just talk about Telltale
• 1:04:33
  Games in general I like them but I feel
• 1:04:38
  like they're not they're not really adventure games
• 1:04:43
  anymore it's a graphic Noel and it's it's kind of like you know you had Mony
• 1:04:49
  monke yeah it is you had Monkey Island right and then they Telltale got the
• 1:04:53
  license to do the sequels to Monkey Island and made adventure games based on
• 1:04:57
  Monkey Island and that were adventure games we solved puzzles and you had to
• 1:05:01
  find you know the key to open the door and all that kind of jazz and and they
• 1:05:06
  were cool and then they did the salmon Max ones and then they were also cool
• 1:05:09
  although as everything went along they all got simpler and simpler and simpler
• 1:05:12
  and now the Walking Dead I feel like every puzzle in that game was basically
• 1:05:19
  oh this car's got no Petrol in it look around oh there's a gas can over there
• 1:05:24
  I'll put that in the car okay I sold the puzzle like yeah yeah it's and the thing
• 1:05:29
  about it is it's not like with the like the sem Max games where you can travel
• 1:05:32
  to different areas you want you're in this area until you hover your mouth
• 1:05:37
  over the spot it's fair it's pretty much on Rails like as far as the puzzles in
• 1:05:42
  that go like you've got a li like a very limited scope as far as you know like
• 1:05:47
  how how challenged you're going to be as far as unless I'm some kind of [ __ ]
• 1:05:51
  Adventure game genius and people do you know in which case I apologize but no I
• 1:05:56
  just found but in saying all of this it's still I still eny I did I did I
• 1:06:00
  just I just I realized afterwards that I'm like this isn't an adventure game
• 1:06:04
  it's just kind of an interactive story really like um which is fine it's just
• 1:06:08
  yeah it just no I get annoyed with that I I know what you mean and I'm annoyed
• 1:06:13
  with any game that does that like if there's a mission and I've got to
• 1:06:17
  actually do a mission fine but if it's just minial tasks that I have to perform
• 1:06:22
  then [ __ ] off just let me progress and apparently I mean I don't like I said I
• 1:06:27
  only played through it the once and I haven't looked into this too deeply but
• 1:06:30
  I've from what I understand the decisions that you make don't actually make that much
• 1:06:36
  difference um because I think it just uh it's just who's who Le so I don't know
• 1:06:43
  it's just it's interesting because I mean I'm not sure you could alter the
• 1:06:46
  plot much in Monkey Island either though to be fair no no no no no no I'm yeah no
• 1:06:51
  I'm not suggesting that I'm just saying that they've taken away the puzzles to
• 1:06:54
  make this Interactive story where you can control the story but apparently
• 1:06:58
  what they've actually done is created the illusion of you controlling the
• 1:07:01
  story when in actual fact not a whole lot changes but then they've done a
• 1:07:06
  pretty good job if that's the case you know because cuz I I it does a really
• 1:07:11
  good job of stressing you out when you have to make a decision I found like no
• 1:07:16
  no no no like like for example all this stuff's going on then it comes up and
• 1:07:19
  it's like like you going to shoot her or not kind of thing and it's like oh [ __ ]
• 1:07:24
  like I don't know like what do I do and then and like there there are times
• 1:07:29
  where you have to make pretty big decisions and and you've got the little
• 1:07:32
  timer I mean you've got like what 10 seconds to decide and yeah it becomes
• 1:07:37
  very intense and it really does feel like whether whether it's true or not it
• 1:07:40
  does feel like like you're making a big decision I enjoyed it it's just I
• 1:07:45
  realized that it's not really an adventure game no it's it's it's an
• 1:07:50
  interactive story yeah and that's fine and I'm I'm wondering if tales of the
• 1:07:55
  Borderlands is the same I assume it is cuz that seems to be the way they're
• 1:07:58
  going and that's fine as I would like less QuickTime events I don't like those
• 1:08:03
  they happened quite a lot in The Walking Dead as well and like I mentioned in
• 1:08:07
  Fable I got frustrated by them
• 1:08:11
  um but I guess I guess I think they're put sort of putting them in to try and
• 1:08:16
  keep that as yeah if people like them then fine like don't listen to me if I'm
• 1:08:20
  the only one saying it but I just I could do without them if it's going to
• 1:08:24
  be an interactive story I could do without them that because I get relaxed
• 1:08:26
  and I'm enjoying the story and then it's like oh by the way mash the button I'm like oh
• 1:08:32
  [ __ ] always comes at a time when I'm not ready for it quickly find the keyboard
• 1:08:37
  and yep yeah yeah anyway I recommend them if anyone hasn't played them they
• 1:08:42
  they are very good but yeah they're not I don't know they're not adventure games
• 1:08:45
  in the strictest sense although actually now that I think about it the the
• 1:08:49
  episode where there the train had more Adventure game kind of stuff in it so I
• 1:08:54
  don't know maybe it's just the episodes at the later ones I really didn't feel
• 1:08:58
  like there was much puzzle solving going on and I was kind of just um walking
• 1:09:03
  through a movie and then interacting with the people and then stuff happened
• 1:09:08
  it was yeah but still thumbs up I enjoyed it oh and the ending made me
• 1:09:13
  very me very upset so good job guys oh yeah it's good as then you were like
• 1:09:20
  really moved yeah yeah it did they did a really good job I thought of um well I
• 1:09:25
  think i' I know I've got it on Steam but they've just released episode one and
• 1:09:29
  season one and two on the Xbox one so I probably consider getting two on the
• 1:09:33
  Xbox One to see how it plays because I'm um interested in how how they do it with
• 1:09:39
  the controller and plus achievements yes and I've set myself a goal of hitting
• 1:09:43
  200,000 by the end of the year all right of course you have I have 55,000 more to
• 1:09:49
  go getting training by the end of the year reaching for that rainbow that's not
• 1:09:54
  long that's that's not long and 55,000 is quite a lot you have to buy a few
• 1:09:59
  games oh I've got the games oh okay you just need to plan yeah maybe if you were
• 1:10:04
  single Luke [ __ ] good luck Des Destiny the crew Lego Batman maybe if I
• 1:10:10
  was signal I might have to yeah oh um any listeners who I mean it
• 1:10:17
  might be too late by the time this is out but [ __ ] Packa tickets are on
• 1:10:20
  sale go get them quickly hurry if you haven't got them uh 2015 pack tickets
• 1:10:26
  I've got y I got mine Dan and we've only got 11 months until we're there what
• 1:10:32
  what do you think we'll see if we can get your media pass and then and then you won't come
• 1:10:38
  anyway no I'll come if it's for free you still come down for the weekend what and
• 1:10:42
  just hang out outside wait 10 hours for you guys to
• 1:10:48
  come out and just watch you go through your show bags and then wave goodbyes
• 1:10:51
  you go off to an Afterparty I'm also not invited to I'm out
• 1:10:58
  yeah well yeah if you're um if you haven't got tickets yet and you didn't
• 1:11:02
  realize they on sale go get them because yeah they sell it really quickly um and
• 1:11:07
  there was a lot of upset over the the the Boston one selling out so quickly
• 1:11:13
  because they didn't announce get over it yeah I know they didn't announce the
• 1:11:17
  time and then people complain when they do announce the time because the
• 1:11:20
  scalpers can prepare and then people complain when they don't announce the
• 1:11:22
  time because the scalpers get in there because they've been waiting and I don't
• 1:11:26
  know no one's happy ever so yeah on the
• 1:11:29
  internet nobody wins exactly no but I've got my tickets so I'm happy but I'm
• 1:11:35
  really hoping they don't sell more tickets than they did oh agreed because
• 1:11:39
  I think it was a great amount of people this year it was always busy but never
• 1:11:45
  crowded you always got into what you wanted so keep it the same as this year
• 1:11:49
  yeah I got into Luke yep um so if anyone wants to come
• 1:11:55
  get into me just pick up I just checked um all as of today which is Thursday um
• 1:12:01
  all badges are still available so 3 days and individual days are all still
• 1:12:05
  available so um but get in because it did sell out I think um this year's did
• 1:12:12
  so I'm sure it will eventually that's all for this week thank you for
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