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Exes Dating Exes and The Italian Curse with Tammy Pescatelli · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 2: Tammy Pascatelli. I have a friend of mine. I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to say old friend because we are old, but
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  Speaker 2: I mean many year long friend, fellow funny female standup comic.
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  Speaker 5: I'll take it.
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  Speaker 2: Boy mom, married, Italian, blue eyed delight, Tammy Pascatelli. Welcome
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  Speaker 5: Thank you, my friend. It's been a long time.
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  Speaker 2: hard for us to get together. But we do talk
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  Speaker 2: on the phone.
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  Speaker 5: We do talk on the phone. But I do like
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  Speaker 5: coming to the studio because I get here just enough
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  Speaker 5: to see the growth. And I'm so proud of your
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  Speaker 5: empire that you're building. I mean, literally, you were the
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And the person never bothers to go listen themselves.
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  Speaker 2: That's how Hollywood works. It's really, if you're in a position,
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  Speaker 2: the EP or whatever, you can squash that. Any guest,
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  Speaker 2: any guest star, any acting choice, whatever, it could come
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  Speaker 2: down to just the one person. Well, it's the truth.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, and yet it does seem that that's just
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  Speaker 5: for women of our generation of comedy because the men
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  Speaker 5: have been naked in the streets with guns and they
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  Speaker 5: get rebooked and put on big movie posters and everything else.
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  Speaker 2: But who was naked in the street with a gun?
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  Speaker 5: That was Martin Lawrence. But, you know, I was never
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  Speaker 5: on Chelsea lately because the girl who was a booker
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  Speaker 5: Even though I was always nice to Chelsea when I
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  Speaker 5: would see her at the store. She probably doesn't remember
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  Speaker 5: me at all now. But I remember there was a
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  Speaker 5: girl who was a booker that Chelsea brought from Denver.
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  Speaker 5: And I had.
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  Speaker 5: Like I have hypoglycemia. If you don't get me something
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  Speaker 5: to eat, I I'm not like Cy from Real Housewives
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  Speaker 5: of New York. Like I it's not because I'm hungry.
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  Speaker 5: It's because I'm going to pass out and you're not
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  Speaker 5: going to get anything out of me for like a
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  Speaker 5: day and a half. I'm more like Julia Roberts.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 5: Or what was it? Gosh, now it's going to kill me.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I mean. When she's with Arnell. No,
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  Speaker 5: when they're all in their steel magnolias.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yes. Get her her juice. Drink her juice, Shelby.
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  Speaker 2: I'm okay, Mama. Drink her juice. I'm okay, Mama.
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  Speaker 5: I'm okay, Mama. I don't even do impressions, but... So
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  Speaker 5: I was doing tons of press in Denver. And we
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  Speaker 5: were from that was at the time when you should
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  Speaker 5: do it from 745 a.m. until two o'clock in the afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: Which you would have to do. And I remember at
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  Speaker 2: Comedy Works back in those days, if if I if
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  Speaker 2: you didn't come in the day before to do all
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  Speaker 2: the press, they were like, don't even bother coming. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I do have to say, as comedians, that is
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  Speaker 2: one of the wonderful things that came out came out
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  Speaker 2: of covid. Because we don't have to go anymore. We
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  Speaker 2: don't really have to do the morning radio and the
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  Speaker 2: morning TV shows anymore. I just talked about it with
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  Speaker 2: Chris Frangiola. And the morning TV shows were like, good,
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  Speaker 2: we don't really want you anyway. No one was selling
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  Speaker 2: tickets off of it. But anyway, so you had to
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  Speaker 2: do 6 a.m.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it was crazy. And don't forget, I came
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  Speaker 5: in from L.A., got in, whatever. And I was literally
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  Speaker 5: about to have an episode. And I was like, I'm hungry.
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  Speaker 5: And the girl goes, I have to do the next one.
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  Speaker 5: And then she kept going after the next one. And
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  Speaker 5: then finally, I was like, Pull over. I have to
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  Speaker 5: get something to eat. And I explained it. I said,
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  Speaker 5: you know, this is what's going on on hypoglycemia. And
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  Speaker 5: I'm like literally eating it like a little squirrel with nuts.
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  Speaker 5: Cut to, I find out that she's in charge. She
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  Speaker 5: wasn't in charge of the booking. Well, I couldn't get
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  Speaker 5: on the show.
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  Speaker 2: She wasn't in charge of the booking, but she was
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  Speaker 2: very high up as far as being right in the
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  Speaker 2: mix of things. So she definitely could have shared an
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  Speaker 2: unflattering story. That could have been forget it.
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  Speaker 5: And I didn't mean anything by it, but I think
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  Speaker 5: I heard, you know, that's when I really learned, though,
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  Speaker 5: because I'm a loud Italian. I'm I'm more of a
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  Speaker 5: man than I am a woman. Like I'm a broad,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and I didn't know how to gently say.
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  Speaker 5: Pardon me, but I have the, you know, I was like,
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  Speaker 5: pull over because, you know, I didn't realize that people
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  Speaker 5: were so sensitive towards now. Now there's a whole generation.
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  Speaker 5: You have to be very careful.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 5: If you correct them on anything, you know, they spit
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  Speaker 5: in your coffee.
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  Speaker 2: Like you have to be careful. But also with the
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  Speaker 2: way social media is, is anyone can do a TikTok about, okay,
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  Speaker 2: let me tell you about the time I had to
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  Speaker 2: take Tammy Pescatelli to radio in Buffalo. Yeah. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and then it doesn't matter. And even I just saw
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  Speaker 2: an interview, a clip of a small interview with this
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  Speaker 2: young kid. It's like a it's it's the dark side
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  Speaker 2: of comedy. And it's a small clip of an upcoming episode.
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  Speaker 2: And he's talking about Ellen. And he was this young
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  Speaker 2: kid that I guess she kind of picked up from obscurity, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: And she was going to, like, make him a stand
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  Speaker 2: up or I don't know what dance, make him do something.
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  Speaker 2: And then he's like, and when it didn't work out,
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  Speaker 2: you know. My mom and I never heard from Ellen again.
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  Speaker 2: And thank God, some of the comments are like, that's
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  Speaker 2: how showbiz works. And that's how things work. Did you
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  Speaker 2: think that she was going to be your best friend
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  Speaker 2: and carry you around? Like, was she going to like.
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  Speaker 5: Get a baby Bjorn and carry you around?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like what... I mean, listen, I know she doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have a great rep or whatever, but it does come
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  Speaker 2: to a point where it's like... Anyone now can just
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  Speaker 2: say a story and it's like, yeah, you know, have
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  Speaker 2: you always been pleasant? I was talking to Josh Wolf
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  Speaker 2: on the phone and I go, I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: else anybody has on me. But, you know, like I've joked,
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  Speaker 2: maybe I didn't have eye contact with someone in an elevator.
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  Speaker 2: And then people wrote, am I supposed to have eye
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  Speaker 2: contact with someone in an elevator? I'm like, well, if
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  Speaker 2: I don't, someone's going to do a TikTok about it.
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  Speaker 2: So you better believe me.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, hi, how are you?
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  Speaker 2: And then when I had eye contact with someone on
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  Speaker 2: a Sephora, they did put it in the comments. They
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  Speaker 2: were like, she looked at me in the eye, hoping
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  Speaker 2: that someone would recognize her. I'm like, oh my God,
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  Speaker 2: I can't. So anyway, Josh was like, there is someone
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  Speaker 2: in at American Airlines is many, many years ago. I
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  Speaker 2: think it still haunts him to this day where he
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  Speaker 2: was very frustrated with the customer service. And so I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: so you're saying there's someone at American Airlines that could
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  Speaker 2: emerge and like ruin your life. He's like, yes, even
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  Speaker 2: though I called the next day, tried to find the
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  Speaker 2: person to apologize. I know that there is someone at
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  Speaker 2: American Airlines that I'm not pleased with how I spoke
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  Speaker 2: to You know, and I'm like, so everyone thinks we
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  Speaker 2: have it so easy as stars, but I'm sure if
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  Speaker 2: you're just sitting at your home, you've had the pleasure
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  Speaker 2: of being annoyed with customer service and not having it
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  Speaker 2: possibly haunt you and get you canceled.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why I think I'm not, don't have the
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  Speaker 5: career that I always thought I wanted to have because
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  Speaker 5: God is protecting me from my evil doings. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I'll never forget there was a time that I was getting,
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  Speaker 5: I was on a flight home to Cleveland. I'm from
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  Speaker 5: Cleveland originally. I'm getting my luggage. And this man helped
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  Speaker 5: me with my luggage. And he goes, I said, oh,
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  Speaker 5: thank you so much. And he goes, oh, you're nice today.
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  Speaker 5: And I said, what do you mean? And he said, well,
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  Speaker 5: I was on a flight with you once. I'd just
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  Speaker 5: seen you on this. I saw you in Dennis Miller.
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  Speaker 5: That's how long ago it was. I know who I am, OK?
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  Speaker 5: I'm lucky that I still have a career, let alone
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  Speaker 5: who cares what level it is. The car is beautiful.
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  Speaker 5: Where did you end up going for it?
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  Speaker 3: This exclusive place that Dada's connections with. they have more
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  Speaker 3: cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
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  Speaker 5: You have to put me in touch what's it called it's.
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  Speaker 3: Dune adl where dune adl there's an accent on the
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  Speaker 3: deal cars lift please you're going past oh kimmage no
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  Speaker 3: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
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  Speaker 2: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
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  Speaker 2: filed against me.
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  Speaker 5: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
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  Speaker 5: what would you.
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  Speaker 6: Do if it was given back? Where did that need
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  Speaker 6: come from where you thought that you had to succeed
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  Speaker 6: in order to feel loved?
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  Speaker 2: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
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  Speaker 2: home dad. What happens next? When I came in, he
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  Speaker 2: started crying.
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  Speaker 6: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
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  Speaker 6: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
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  Speaker 6: happens next.
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  Speaker 5: I decided to risk it all.
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  Speaker 6: Only one question matters. What happens next?
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  Speaker 5: And I said, well, he goes, and you weren't very
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  Speaker 5: nice that day. I said hi to you and you
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  Speaker 5: didn't really even say anything. And I only remembered by
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  Speaker 5: the grace of God because the day I was doing
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  Speaker 5: the Dennis Miller show, my grandfather had died and they
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  Speaker 5: told me on the way to do the show. So
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  Speaker 5: I literally and what a great gentleman Dennis was. Dennis
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  Speaker 5: allowed the car to take me home, get my stuff
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  Speaker 5: and catch a red eye to get it. So I
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  Speaker 5: was trying not to cry in public. because my grandfather
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  Speaker 5: had died that day. But if he wouldn't have told
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  Speaker 5: me specifically that, and then I was like, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 5: I guess people do have these things in their head
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  Speaker 5: because they have an interaction with you, and you're allowed
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  Speaker 5: to be human.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know what that person, what call they
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  Speaker 2: just got, what was going on in their life, and
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  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. And part of our thing
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  Speaker 2: as a stand-up is, yeah, you could be in a
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  Speaker 2: fight with your husband, seeing something awful, and then you
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  Speaker 2: have to be like... Our Father who art in heaven,
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  Speaker 2: hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: How you guys doing? Welcome to Hilarities.
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  Speaker 1: It's the truth.
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  Speaker 2: So great to be here. Tell the funny stories about
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  Speaker 2: your funny life. And, like, you have to do it.
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  Speaker 2: You can't be, like, you know.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm blessed to do it because guess what? It
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  Speaker 5: might be the last time someone laughs. You don't know
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  Speaker 5: what's going on in people's lives. Like, I have to
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  Speaker 5: remind myself when all these people, look, I've been around
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  Speaker 5: for a long time. I'm an OG.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: We are the generation of women that made it, we
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  Speaker 5: suffered all the indignities and the sexual harassment and me
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  Speaker 5: staying in condos with convicted rapists for comedy condos to
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  Speaker 5: work and you're not complaining because you're afraid you're not
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  Speaker 5: gonna work. And I get that I don't have as
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  Speaker 5: many followers and things like that, but I also remember
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  Speaker 5: that what you do can't be quantified. Laughter is only
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  Speaker 5: quantified in Hollywood. Sitting in the rest of the country,
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  Speaker 5: those people who show up and laugh, they just want
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  Speaker 5: to laugh. So it might be the last time that
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  Speaker 5: they get a chance to laugh. We don't know what's
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  Speaker 5: going on in people's lives. So it's wonderful to be
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  Speaker 5: able to do that. But I have to talk myself
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  Speaker 5: through it a lot.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Well, let's get into some
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  Speaker 2: juicy topics. Okay. Okay. So, TJ Holmes and Amy Robach.
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  Speaker 2: They had the scandal. They were, you know, both married,
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  Speaker 2: had an affair, both got fired. And then I said,
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  Speaker 2: when are they going to get their podcast? Of course,
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  Speaker 2: they got their podcast together. And they're on the red
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  Speaker 2: carpet at the iHeart Christmas thing. And you know what?
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  Speaker 2: I just did a photo. I just screen grabbed this
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  Speaker 2: one on the red carpet because... When I do the
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  Speaker 2: red carpet, and there's only been a few times, like
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: my husband's been with me, most of the times he's like,
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: who cares? Because then they're like, okay, could you get
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: the guy out of the photo?
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: Whatever.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: But when I see two people on the red carpet together,
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: I think they must plan, we're going to do, we're
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: going to giggle and do sweet nothings.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: There's no way that when.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: You had all the whole ride over here and, you know,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: and as you're getting ready to tell the funny stories
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: and everything, and you're going to save it for when
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: you're on the red carpet to be like, to be like, right.
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: She's gone. Someone's there.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: What?
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: Because they have a whole branding that they have to read.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: America doesn't love this right now.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: OK, well, it's getting juicier. So according to their their
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: opening episode, which is good, they talked about the affair.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: I have not heard it.
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: Great.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: But I do think that's the way you start off.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: a launch of a podcast hello rachel this part was
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: said she i don't think he was suicidal but at
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: one point i guess she couldn't get a hold of
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: him or something and she was afraid the firing was
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: so bad and so detrimental to um tj holmes she
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: was worried that he had killed himself after the good
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: morning america firing.
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: So she worried about maybe the fact that he had
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: lost his family that shows you how she that she's
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: thinking career this man lost his family she didn't care
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: about her family She only cared about her job.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: That's what she was focused on. Well, now, I don't
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: know because I don't want to talk too much about
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: something we haven't heard.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: We're doing what we're talking about.
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: We haven't heard.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: We're looking out at TMZ.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: It might be very compelling and we might be very sympathetic.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: But also today, the juiciest of scoops, allegedly, okay, this
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: is an exclusive from page six, so maybe it's not
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: an alleged. This is the happy ending we didn't see coming.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: The ex-spouses of the scandalous news couple, T.J. Holmes and
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Amy Robach, have gotten closer. Page Six has exclusively learned
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: that Marilee, T.J. 's wife, and Andrew Hsu, married to Amy,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: are dating, according to multiple sources.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: I hope so. I hope they ride it all the
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: way to the bank, because these two... TJ and Amy,
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: they have to stick together now. They have no choice.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: They don't want to. They'll have to wait and quietly
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: fade away. They have at least a two-year contract.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: With each other. That's it. And with iHeart, probably.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: But yes, just for themselves. They know it. Somebody sat
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: them down from PR, from crisis PR, and said, hey,
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: you guys got to stay together at least two years
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: so it looks like it's real. You can't look like
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: you're a homewrecker and then show up in people's homes
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: every day. It's just not going to happen.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Well, they're not showing up in people's homes. They're showing
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: up in people's ears.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: Well, but it's still their homes.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: And I mean, I'm sure the goal is to make
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: the podcast a huge success.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: They should have called it Homeswrecker.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Have a great chemistry. Have a great following. And, you know,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: then they launch it to a TV because they have
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: TV experience, obviously.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: But no one was going to give them that TV
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: show after the scandal. But you're right. If they can
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: make this work and it's super successful for a year
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: or so, I wouldn't be surprised if then they did
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: return to TV.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: And you know what?
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Listen— But you're right. They'd have to stay together.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: It's not— Everybody's got their, I will never be the
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: conscious uncoupling type, okay?
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: Like, that's just not going to happen. You're going to
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: hear me screaming and people are going to have a
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: lot of stories to talk about. God forbid my husband
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: ever wanted to leave. But, yeah, so if they want
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: to do it that way and however it works for them,
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: and I hope Andrew and, for me, I lay with
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: Andrew and Marilee. Yeah.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm on that team. Well, of course, it
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: always reminds me of, looks like we made it. Shania Twain. Yes,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: it does. Shania Twain. It's the classic story. She and
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: her husband were married for a long time. which is
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: why she wrote the song. Looks like we made it
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: because she was like going to show you guys all
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: we made it. Well, they didn't make it because he
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: was making it with her best friend who was also
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: her assistant. They got together and then she and the
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: best friend slash assistant's husband, they got together. And I
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: believe both couples are still together with each other. Are
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: they still?
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: I think Mutt is still with the other one, but
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: I don't know about if Shania is.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: He was cuter, though.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: Who?
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: Her assistant's man? Yeah, the assistant's man was cuter.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Than her man?
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: Than Mutt, than the original.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: What a last name.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: That was his first name.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, really? That's awful.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, he's German. There was some kind of, like,
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: it might have been short for Helmut.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Also big switcheroo in the O.C., Real Housewives of OC,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Shannon Bedore, divorced from David Bedore, was dating John Jansen.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: And she talked all about him on the show. And
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: she said he's the love of her life. And she's like,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: when I fight with John, it is devastating. We have
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: normal fights that paralyze me. And they're like, well, it
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: doesn't sound like a normal fight if you're paralyzed. But
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: she said, I've never loved someone like this. And they,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: you know, break up. And well, what happened was, of course, because.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: You're so crazy that you can't have an argument with someone.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: When are people going to wake up if you can't
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: just have a discussion or an argument with someone and
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: that person has to become apoplectic? Who's going to stay
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: with you? That's a sudden move right there. Yeah. That's
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: a very Sutton.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Sutton from Beverly Hills. Yeah. Yeah. So they were dating,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: you know, it was always like we're on off friends, whatever.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Then she, this is all, you know, allegedly was talking
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: crap about Alexis, Alexis Bellino, who used to be on
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Real Housewives of OC. She was talking crap about her
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: who happened to be at the same restaurant she was at.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: She then took an Uber home, and then realized as
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: she got out of the Uber, she didn't have her phone.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: This is all what I've heard. And so she didn't
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: have her phone, I'm assuming, to call another Uber to
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: go get it back at the... Okay, that makes sense.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: So she then got in her car to go back
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: to the restaurant, and that is when she hit someone's home.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: with her car, no one was hurt.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: And did the fake dog walk.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: And then parked, and then the car stopped running and
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: then she got out of the car and was walking
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: the dog and then the police came and then they
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: realized that she was intoxicated and she got a DUI.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: So now people are wondering, was that rumor of her
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: talking about Alexis Bellino, did it have anything to do
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: with that? She suspected that Alexis Bellino and John Jansen
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: were more than friends or acquaintances. Shortly after that, they
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: were seen at the Quiet Woman in a group setting,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: but they were sitting next to each other. And now
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: People has confirmed they are, in fact, dating. And I
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: don't know if it's confirmed that Alexis Bellino is coming
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: back to the show, but Tamara, who... Was best friends
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: with Shannon, then not best friends with her when she
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: was on the show, then became best friends again. And
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: then Tamara, Vicki, and Shannon did the Trace Amigos comedy show.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: At the Irvine Improv and at the Tempe Improv where
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: they wore mariachi outfits and sang the song. You saw
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: the video?
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: I saw it.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: We are here to whoop it up. It's what we got.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: We're the Tres Amigas. Anyway, they sold out. People wanted
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: to come, and it was fun, and it was great.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: But now, Tamara said, when I was at the variety
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: thing last week for Reality Show Women, she said on
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: the red carpet, I'm not speaking to Shannon. And she
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: also took a photo with Alexis Bellino. So now Tamara
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: is hanging out with Alexis Bellino. Shannon feels like, oh,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: my gosh. And Alexis's ex-husband, Jim Bellino, sued Tamara, Shannon,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: and myself. Which I cannot talk about the results of that.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: But that is a fact.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: Well, if you write it down, I'll talk about it.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Well, no. That is a fact. It is all over.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: It is all settled over for all three of us.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I remember that story.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: But not that Alexis had something to do with it
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: because they were going through a divorce at the time.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: That's not her fault.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: But.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is going to get people watching Real
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Housewives of OC. I know I won't be missing an episode.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: But my God. Or, or is Tamara realizing that doing
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: gigs at improvs across the country is not.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: What it's cracked up to be?
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: And she was like, how the fuck do I get
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: out of the Tres Amigas tour with Vicky? And also,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: when you split it, I was like, okay, we know
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: what we make on the.
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: Road, right?
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Even if they sell out VIP. And merch. You've got
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: three people, and then you've got another guy coming to
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: interview them. Then you have hair and makeup, which we
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: do our own, but they don't.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: And hotel, flights, everything.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. Irvine makes sense to go, okay?
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: You can only do Irvine once a year. Anytime else
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: you have to get on a plane with multiple people,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: it is not a huge moneymaker. And so I think
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: it was a lot of things.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: And maybe he won't let Teddy in.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I heard that, too. She wouldn't let Teddy come. So
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: that means you've got to have security.
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Your own security.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: Because the improv has their own security, but you've got
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: to have special no-Teddy security.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: And you can't hire from Teddy's husband's company security.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: You've got to find another.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: So they're going to gouge you. So that's a lot
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: of money. They've got a lot of overhead.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: They have a lot of overhead. So maybe Tamara's just like, look.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I don't even care. I just want to get out
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: of the trance. I don't know the truth. I have
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: no insight. I'm watching this as I see it. But
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: then I heard from somebody else who said, I heard
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: from Alexis myself. Now, this is a DM. Doesn't mean
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: it's true. That this is blown out of proportion and
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: it's not a serious thing. Here's what I'll tell you.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: It's not a serious relationship between her and John.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: Well, here's what I know. This is because I'm not.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: I love your explanation caught me completely up. And I
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: know enough about the Bravo universe to catch it. But
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: no one is a rube anymore. When I first did,
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: I did one of the first reality TV shows, Last
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: Comic Standing, where we had to live in the house.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: And I watched it like, yay, at the beginning. And
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: then by the time the editing and we were into
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: the finals, I was hiding in my house with the
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: curtains pulled and no lights on because I didn't know
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: what kind of edit I was going to get. These
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: people are so savvy. They know that sitting next to
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: each other is either a statement or a storyline. So
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: none of this is by accident. This is either it's
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: real where there's smoke, there's fire, or it's a real
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: for the TV show.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Well, what's interesting is one thing Shanna Bedore constantly said
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: in the season was she was so upset that Heather
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Dubrow and the other women were talking about her relationship.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: And she was like, well, you know what? Now that
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: you've talked about it, it's done. It's not just taking
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: off her mic. It's done. John Jansen's going to break
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: up with me. My life is over, but it's fine.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: It's fine. My life is over. My relationship's over. It's fine.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: It's fine. It's fine. And the women, like Emily and stuff,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: were like... You spread the rumors about yourself. You talked
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: about it to every single one of us late at night.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: And so you put it out there. And then what?
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: We're not supposed to talk to each other when you've... Like,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: have you ever had a friend that's like, do not
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: tell a soul, do not tell a soul, and you
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: don't tell a soul, and it's real juicy shit. And
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: then like six months later, you're sitting and you realize...
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: that she told all three of you the same thing.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: And you're like, we could have been fucking talking about this. Yeah,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: for sure. Like, what? Like, we missed out on all
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: of this. We could have analyzed and discussed it. Basically,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: that's what happened. And they're like, this is a reality show.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: And whether you tell us late at night on the
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: phone or whatever, it's out there. And we did discuss it.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: But you discussed it. You shared all this stuff late
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: night on the phones and don't remember what you're saying
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: because whatever reason. And so, but she goes, but he's
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: a very private person. He's a very private person. That's
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: what she'd say on the show. But then what would
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: be frustrating is that Heather Dubrow, I remember, would say, well,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: she told me that he loves the limelight. He loves
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: being on TV. And I don't think that's a negative thing.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I think if you're a reality star and you find
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: a guy like a Louis who is with Teresa, he's
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: very comfortable there.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: He likes it.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean he doesn't love her. It means that
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: she found a good match that's going to go to
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: the shit with her and be there with bells on.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean it's a bad thing.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: Just as long as he doesn't wear red, because then
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: you won't be able to find Louis. He's gone. And
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: I don't care what you say. You can write me.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: You can't. Listen, as beautiful as Teresa is, she can't
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: find someone to powder him. I mean, good Christ.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that... I think it's hard to find
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: a guy that's willing to do this stuff. But I
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: think that there's another theory. She's a beautiful girl, she's
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: very attractive. Okay. And she has a nice personality. She
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: has a nice personality and I'm sure they get along
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: and met or whatever. And so it could be a
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: real thing or, or if she is Now, she had
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: an engagement after her divorce. She had an engagement with
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: a guy for a number of years.
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: She was with him and then engaged. They broke up
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: just recently. And they went on below deck together and stuff. So,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: she no longer is married and she no longer has
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: the fiancé. Okay. And I don't know what his finances were,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: but she's single.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: She meets John Jansen. The Harry Dubin of the OC.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Okay. Or the Slade Smiley or whatever of yesteryear.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: But now Slade's been with Gretchen for 10 years or whatever. But,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: you know, does she, is she savvy enough? To see him,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: have a little conversation with him and flirt and go,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I wonder if this could be more because knowing it
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: doesn't take a genius to realize. If I start dating
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Shannon Bedore's ex-boyfriend and they're even remotely thinking about bringing
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: me back, which they were. Yeah. I am back in
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: even if this... is a short lived thing. I'm back.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Even if it ended tomorrow and they start filming three
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: weeks later, there's going to be so much shit that
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: they can talk about that happened in the two weeks
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: of them dating that will fill up the months of
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: juicy conversations at Nobu. Oh, for sure.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: And look, I mean, I think that if it, let's
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: just pretend that he does like the limelight, but maybe
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Shannon was saying, I don't want to talk about it
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: because she wasn't sure if he really liked her.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: For her. Right.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: Maybe she thought he was using her for the limelight.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: And then now he's with Alexis. But Alexis is gorgeous, too.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: So who knows? I mean, I love when these there's
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: nobody else in these towns. I mean, when they kept
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: bringing Harry Dubin, they keep bringing this guy. There's nobody else.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: The Southern Charm people, they keep sleeping with each other.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: There's nobody else left. You're not on an island. This
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: is not like, this isn't Love Island.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I think it is.
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: Can't you ship people in maybe?
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that is kind of the thing with,
• 31:55
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• 32:04
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Okay, so we'll call Rachel. But even before she
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  Speaker 5: That just sounds like she parachuted out of a thing
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  Speaker 2: Oh, good. And then she went all the way down.
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  Speaker 5: Remember those Gucci sunglasses they gave her in the tent?
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• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Why don't you tell?
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: Full disclosure, I'm friends with Margaret. I love her. I
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: love her, what she stands for.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I love her, too. I like her a lot, too.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: I love her lines.
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: I love her relationship with her husband, her mother. She's
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: just a good person. If you called Margaret and said,
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: I had nowhere to stay, she would find a place
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: for you to stay. Yeah. I know Melissa because of
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: Joe Gorga. Joe was doing stand-up, and I got a
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: call about sitting and writing with Joe, and we tried,
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: and we did a couple shows together, and Joe does
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: his own thing. And Joe is fully Joey on stage.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: He's Joey Gorga.
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: And, you know, he just really– I think he's a
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: great guy. I think they're a good couple. I just
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: think that he comes at things– I know a million–
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: if you grew up in an Italian neighborhood or if
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: you grew up around Italians, there's a million Joey Gorgas
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: who just want to be– they just want to have fun.
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: They just want to all love, eat. He wants to
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: show off his hot wife.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Yeah.
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's it.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: It's like typical.
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, I used to know Jacqueline. I used to
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: know– I did a show with– The Caroline Manzo I did.
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: I don't know any of the new ones. The young
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: ones I love. They're so cute. They're feisty.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Do you think that there's any help for Teresa and
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Joe Gorga to make amends?
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: No, not right now. Not as long as Louie's in
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: the picture. just from, you know, and I don't know
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: that from him. I just, in my, as a Sicilian,
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: there are people that they don't talk to for decades.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: We are huge at not speaking. I'll never forget my
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: grandfather died and my mother stood in the doorway between
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: the kitchen and the living room between his brother and sister,
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: my two great, my great aunt and my great uncle,
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: because they weren't speaking. So, but she didn't want to
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: offend either one. So she stood in the middle. so
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: she could give them both equality. We're a culture that
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: is crazy based on respect and disrespect. And once you
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: feel so disrespected, and I think that having Melissa in
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: the mix really probably threw Teresa off. We come from
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: a culture that you were, you know, like the OnlyFans.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: You're never going to see any of these broads on
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: the OnlyFans, at least none of the OGs, you know,
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: the older ones. Because we come from you know, a
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: lady in the streets and a freak in a sheet,
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: you can be whatever you want, but they're not going
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: to do, they're not going to do like Leah McSweeney
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: with her.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, I have a photo of her.
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: Hold on.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: Her bunghole hanging out.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Wait, here we go. This is her, this is her page.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I love it from the back. Leah McSweeney, just to
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: remind you guys, she was on Real Housewives of New
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: York for two seasons. She participated in the reality reckoning
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: variety article that went nowhere and And so then she
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: joined OnlyFans and bragged about how she made more in
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: one week on OnlyFans than she did on Real Housewives.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: And I don't mean to be a bitch, but that's
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: actually nothing to brag about. Because the people I know,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: the people that we hear about that make a lot
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: on OnlyFans, it's not worth bragging about unless you make
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: over $ 100, 000.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: See your kid's backpack right there? You know, all that
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: money you're going to have to save for therapy. That's it.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: That's her kid's backpack right there. Listen, there's a lot
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: of young ones I love.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I think the Leah McSweeney story, her life story, is
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: pretty depressing. She's not going to like me saying this, but...
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: hopefully she doesn't listen to Juicy Scope. Because, you know,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: so she struggled with drugs and with alcohol.
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: She got something happened where somehow she was drunk or arrested. Anyway,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: she fell. She sued NYPD. And she got enough money
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: to start the married to the mob sweatshirt fashion.
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: Cute clothing line.
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: It was cute. I mean, listen, before anybody else was
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: doing it.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, fine. She got that. She has a daughter. Seems
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: like a delight. And then she gets on the show.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: And she's like, I was sober all these years, but
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: now I'm going to drink. So we see her drunk
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: for the first season. Then she's like, now I'm sober
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: and I'm converting from Catholicism to Judaism.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: And just, I think just to piss off the mom,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: but whatever she goes to be. And now, and then
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: she thinks that she's, she's suing Bravo or whatever about they,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: she's suing for the American disabilities act. She's saying that they,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: this is all my understanding. And I, I am not
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: saying everything I say is factual. So relax. But that
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: what I remember reading is that she's suing saying because
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: she was bipolar and they didn't act properly. That's the
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: stance the attorneys are taking. Meanwhile, she joins OnlyFans and
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: she says, I made more. Now, my understanding is when
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: you're in the first couple years of Housewives, you don't
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: make a lot, maybe $ 6, 000 an episode. So she made $ 6, 000
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: in a week. I know that is a lot to
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: the average American, but that is not, you're killing it
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: on OnlyFans.
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: Well, it's not in New York anyway, by the way.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: But it's not, you're killing it on OnlyFans. You're not.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: Listen, I would like her to win as a person.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: But I just think this photo, like, I cannot believe
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: that this is what she posted.
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: What's bizarre to me is that.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: And that's for $ 15.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. Is it really her? Does anybody
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: know that?
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: You know what?
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I did see this around. It could
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: have been. You know what? Let me know. I know
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: she joined OnlyFans. If this was mocked up, I will
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: do a correction on Tuesday.
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: Only because there's a couple apps that can take the
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: background out to at least make that... Listen, I saw.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: This several places, so I kind of would be surprised.
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: She's gorgeous. She's a beautiful girl. She had a great personality.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: And she's like, this is empowering to me. So good.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: You know what? You're right. And she's probably like, I'd
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: rather do this. I'm not going to get on another
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: reality show, and I don't want to. What other job
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: can I get that can make this if I've been
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: banned from reality TV? But I do feel like, is
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: that all there is, just being a reality star or OnlyFans? Like,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: there's no other skills worth trying to do.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: As a woman? You and I both, we probably were
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: there at the same time. I used to go over
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: to the Playboy Mansion on Sundays. to do the movies
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: and the stuff. We would do the pool in the
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: day and movies at night, right? And I could go
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: to some of the parties. It was fun. And half
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: a few, listen, they changed the, trampolines. They pulled them
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: out of there because of me, because I'm the one
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: who really fell off the trampoline.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: You did? What happened?
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I got drop kicked by one of the broads
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: because she didn't like what I said during the show.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Wait, go back and tell the story. It's a real story.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Tell the story.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: I used it in my act early on.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Well, I'd like to hear it.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: They used to come to the comedy store all the time.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Half and the girls.
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: Half and the girls. And then he had a big
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: golf outing and he wanted me to be the headliner
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: for it.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: So we all did a show and then Only a
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: few of us could go back to the party. It
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: was one of the first times that I really.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Kind of went. Approximately what year is this? So I
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: used to.
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: Go before I was a comic in 2000 and like 2000, 2001.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: But when I fell off the trampoline, it was before
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: I ever did any Tonight Show or anything. So I'd
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: say it was 2003. Okay. And I got drunk. And
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: when I get drunk, that's why I don't drink because
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: I call myself Terry Pescatelli. I don't know who I am.
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: I'm like a crazy person. And I said this, I'm
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: a tough broad. I'm an athlete's daughter. I grew up
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: with all boys. So I'm like competitive, like, okay, let's
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: do backflips. Let's do gymnastics. I was a cheerleader. Let's
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: do this. And this girl apparently didn't like one of
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: the things because I used to talk about in my
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: act class and dignity. And They had offered me Funny
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: Women of Playboy in the, like, the 90s.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: I remember that. I remember being in my parents' bedroom,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: because I think my dad always had a subscription, and
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: seeing Funny Women of Comedy. And who was the girl?
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: So it was Felicia Michaels. It was Margaret Cho. It was,
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: who did Madonna Date, allegedly?
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: And she's a great actress. Sandra Bernhardt.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: I don't remember who else.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: No, there was Rhonda. Rhonda Shear. Rhonda Shear.
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: So I, they had offered.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I don't think it was Margaret Cho.
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: I think.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: I feel like this was a little bit of a
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: little older than Margaret because Margaret's like my age. I
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: do not think it was Margaret Cho. No way.
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: It was 1995.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you this. At 1995, there's no way it
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: was Margaret Cho. Okay. But all those other names, I
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: believe you're correct. I definitely remember Rhonda Shearer.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: Here's what I know for me. 1995, I get a
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: call saying they're interested in you. Now, I've been doing
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: comedy professionally one year.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: One year.
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: I left the radio station. I'm like, they offered me $ 25, 000. What?
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: I hadn't even made $ 25, 000 the year before being a
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: full-time comic. But I'm a good Catholic girl. My father
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: was there. My brothers, I thought, how would they react?
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: My brother's playing college football. There's their sister. And beyond that,
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: in my brain, now this is where the difference lies.
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: This is why I probably don't have a better career.
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: I kept thinking, I don't want anybody to think I
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: got ahead by showing my tits. Like I didn't. A
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: lot of young women now are so smart with it.
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: Like they always make a man feel like they're on
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: the precipice of a blowjob and then it moves things further,
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: you know, but I didn't want that. I wanted people
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: to just see me on my merit.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: What a dummy.
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: I should have really just Plus, it would be nice
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: to have the pictures of that body because I had
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: real 34 full cup C. I mean, I still had
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: this nose. Let's not pretend. But that was my whole joke.
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: Like if I'd had plastic surgery, don't you think I'd
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: have had my nose fixed first? I wish I would
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: have had that body.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Well, I remember seeing that magazine. I just really remember Rhonda.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Who then went on– she was a stand-up, but then
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: she went on to make a ton of money like
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: on QVC.
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: Told me I should– I did one show with her
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: in Vegas. We had to wear– it was a pajama
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: jammy jam.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, I remember that.
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: And I wouldn't– I wore like big old fartsy pajamas,
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: you know, the kind like you wear with the hot
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: cocoa and Christmas.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was trying to do the sexy, funny thing.
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: But I remember seeing that and I, you know, now
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: I was 25. If it was around then or maybe this.
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: Same age, right? Yeah.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: And I was like, I thought it was great. And
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, my God, I think I would
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: do this. Because I want to say they weren't totally naked.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Were they completely naked?
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: Everything for me to get to 25 grand, you had
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: to be completely naked. And it just didn't. I didn't.
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: I just literally didn't.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: It didn't.
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: There was a big difference when I grew up that
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: we slut shamed a lot. Like it just was what
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: it was.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: It was different. We just did. We can't even say
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: the word slutty now. You just say sex positive. Yeah.
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: Like we did.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: You could fuck every guy on the football team and
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: it would be like, you know what? She is so
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: sex positive. How great that she's owning her vagina. But
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: in our day, you were a big old slut.
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: And you could do it. You just had to be
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: quiet about it. You couldn't tell anybody. You could do
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: it on the sly. So I didn't do it. But
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: then he just, I don't know if he kept, I
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: think he was just fascinated by no. Okay. And then,
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: you know, I think that sometimes when you're funny and
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: you're confident, I've always known who I am.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Wait, get back to the trampoline.
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: So that's what I'm saying. So he would have me
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: be at these parties.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: So I'm at the party and have really liked me,
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: but not in that way.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Not in a sexual way.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: I'm not blonde.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: But he got a kick out of me.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Like a lot of. Like a dad. Yeah.
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: Like he would, like all the old, you know, when
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: he had a. All those guys.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Came in there. James Caan. Yeah. And come over and.
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: Say, Tom, can you believe this one's with tits like that?
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: She's a comic. And I just go, you know what
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: I mean? Like, hi. My dad loves you. So she
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: got mad because I used to do these jokes about like,
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: just because you get your, it's old. Just because you
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: get your boobs done doesn't mean you have to show everybody.
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: And then you're going to cry because. When you can't
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: find a good man, you're gonna be like, I can't
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: find a good man. And the joke was, yeah, because
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: you're a whore. Again, 2000, like way back then, those times.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: And I.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: Guess I upset her. And I was like, hey, look
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: at me. And Eleanor Kerrigan was there from the comedy story.
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: And now she's, I'm like, hey, look at me. And
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: this girl comes and drop kicks me, right? How do
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: you drop kick?
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: She kicked you?
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like flying Walenda, like right into me, like in
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: a WWE. And I went flying off and rolled down
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: the hill. And it was by where the peacocks were, right?
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: And I was drunk. You have to remember, I'm also drunk.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: And I'm stuck in the mud. I'm 25. I'm like,
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: I think I'm. And no, at that time, I'm not 25.
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: At that time, I'm 32. The 25 was when they
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: offered me that. So I rolled really well. But then
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: I couldn't walk for three days. And then the joke was,
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: you can talk about class and self-respect and dignity all
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: you want. But when you can't walk, After going to
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: a party at the Playboy Mansion for three days, nobody
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: believes it has anything to do with an unfortunate trampoline accident.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but then they pulled the trampoline. It's all my
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: fault because he was afraid I was going to sue him.
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: I still have the card from the flowers he sent me.
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: And it said, you're classy, broad, hope your back feels better.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Interesting that it was about a trampoline fear of being
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: sued about trampolines.
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: Well, because somebody else would have sued him.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Well, it all goes back to... Real Housewives of OC,
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: there's a whole... My people know what I'm talking about.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: I'm not even going to mention it. Looking back... It
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: has to do with this a little bit. There's so
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: much history here. Okay.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Okay. So.
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: So, anyway.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: Boy, that was the tangent. I'm sorry. No, but I
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: love hearing the Italian thing because when the Melissa, Joe,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: and Teresa riff of the wedding and all that stuff,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: we would talk about it. And I have, through marriage...
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: knew of an East Coast Italian family. And I'm like,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: is this an East Coast Italian way of dealing with
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: stuff that is different than the Irish way.
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: Oh, yes.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, different than the Jewish way,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: different than that, like, you know what I mean? Culturally
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: different than the Mexican way. Like, and I think that's
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: what's so interesting about America. But I also think families
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: deal with with stuff differently. They deal with the dysfunction differently.
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: Yes. And, you know, look, I feel like you should
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: I should almost stop it like they do football tape.
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: When that's when it's playing and go, OK, pause. You
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: see right here. This is when she walks in the
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: room and she doesn't make eye contact or she did
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: make it and she just did like this. And then
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: you're like, oh, my God, you gave me a look
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: like that. That's why Dolores keeps her mouth shut. That's
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: why a lot of people were saying, like, Dolores is boring.
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: That's because she doesn't know what to say, because she's
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: such a good friend to everybody, probably. And she doesn't
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: want to tell anybody's business. And there are probably stories.
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: That would curl your toes that we can't– that we
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: don't know. You know what I mean?
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: I might know a couple. But that literally you just
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: can't– you can't say. You know what I mean? And
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: the other.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Thing, let's remind everybody that Louis– Husband number two, Louis,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: he's not Italian.
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: He's not Italian. He's not Italian.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, his interpretation of thing, you know, he's
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: coming from a different angle, too.
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's doing the block. He's blocking. He's doing that
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: block off. Do you ever see this? Do you see
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: that big rapper, Nardo, whose security punched out a 14-year-old kid? No,
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: but— Yeah, because he just came up for an autograph.
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: That's what Louis is doing. Louis is blocking people and
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: creating problems. I also think that there's a huge dynamic
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: between sister-in-laws in an Italian family.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: What is that dynamic?
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: Well, I think Teresa being an original sister, like I'm
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: the— my brother, I mean, I talk about in my act now,
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: my brother, he's been married four or five times. There's
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: constantly drama. If there was a reality show at our
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: house with him in it with his wives, it literally
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: I would seem like the craziest person in the world
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: because it's the conversation that he tells them. He tells
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: them all the resentment of all the years and all
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: the stuff. So I think that the you know, I
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: think I think Teresa was like the queen and she
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: didn't tell her parents she did anything wrong. Everything was Teresa, Teresa, Teresa.
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: And then Joe probably, you know, he's the little brother
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: and this beautiful girl comes in. And I mean, God bless,
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: you know, Teresa's beautiful. But her hairline was not where
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: it is now. When she first came on, she looked
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: like she'd just come off the boat from Italy. Like
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: when we used to laugh when my cousins would come
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: from Italy, we used to have to Americanize them. You
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: had to do it. everybody had to get waxed and
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: shaved and, you know, pressed out. That's how it worked originally.
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: Now they're beautiful in the, in the fashion and everything
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: comes from there first. But I think there was just constant. Look,
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, instead of the, we didn't also remember. That's
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: the thing. Like I love, I love Paige DeSorbo and Hannah,
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: their giggly squad and all that stuff, because that's a
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: culture they're learning to embrace each other and, and lift
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: women up. Look, Heather, Heather, We're friends, but we chose
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: to be friends. I guarantee you there were gigs that
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: you and I both don't know that it was either
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: going to be me or you. That's how it was.
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: We were not allowed to be friends with other women.
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: Our generation was a constant competition.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Because it was only going to be one of us.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: I've said that too.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Like if there was a lineup at the comedy store
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: or the improv, there's 10 comics of the night. There's
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: going to be seven white guys- one or two black
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: guys and one woman. And that's it. That was the
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: demographic every night. Right. So it would be very rare
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: that there'd be even two women on the bill the night.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: So one thing that made sense was when some people
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: would start to just produce their own shows, like Pretty
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: Funny Women with Lisa Sunstead and start doing stuff like
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: that because at least we could all be on the
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: show together, you know, and get a spot.
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: They never put you on the road on the road. Never, never, never, never.
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: It was always, I was the only girl, three, you know,
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: a headliner, a feature, an emcee, and whatever. I worked
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: my way all the way up, but it was always
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: just one woman on the thing.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: You guys ready for a lady? Ready for a woman?
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: I used to hate that. I used to go crazy.
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: The other thing is that you have to have a
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: little bit of an ego to be in this industry
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: or in reality or whatever. And that's not how women
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: were trained before. To be like, especially coming, look at
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: our generation, like your mother, my mother, they might've had
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: great personalities, but they weren't like shoving front runner people.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: The other thing culturally too about Italians versus like Irish
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: Americans or whatever is the gift giving is something that
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: we did not experience in my family.
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: Are you saying that because I just gave you some gifts?
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: She did just give me a gift. She shows up
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: with two gifts. A bracelet that says trust and earrings. Well,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: the earrings. The earrings.
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: Guess what?
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: But the gift, the gift giving is lovely. And it's
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: also can be scrutinized if it's not good enough. Like
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: for coming to christenings and parties and weddings. And like
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: I saw from this Italian side of the family. A
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: lot of discussion and nitpicking and kind of shit talking
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: if the gift was not.
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: Up to par. I'm going to send you. I found
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: some of my grandmother's diaries, which were completely boring. However,
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: she did have every dollar. Everyone had ever given my father, me,
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: or my brother. She must have got it from my mother.
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: So it would be like Aunt Maria.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Gave $ 20 for the fifth birthday. Yeah. Gave $ 40 for
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: the sixth birthday.
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: So she could give the exact amount back to those kids.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: To whoever was on the.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: And then so she could count that she had given...
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: you know, a certain amount of money to all of the,
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: for the weddings and they better at least match it
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: and they better cover their plate. It's a very, it's
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: a culture that I love and I love every aspect
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: of it, but I had to deprogram myself. I literally
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: had to go to therapy to remove, sorry to hit this.
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: I had to remove, look at, cause that's God trying to,
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: but I.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: Also, I also think that is why the, the, the
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: real housewives audience is, Is fascinated and confused. Because I
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: think the answer, to me, my opinion, the answer is
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: in the culture. The answer is in the culture why
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: they have their issues. In my opinion. No, it really is.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: And then, of course, exasperated by fame. You have the
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: culture and then you have let's be famous and jealousy
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: and looks and all of that along with it. And
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: on reality TV. And it's really hard. To me, live
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: for and infamy. And when you do go back to
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: those old episodes, you're like, whoa, you do see differently
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: as a viewer, too. So I just find it fascinating.
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: Well, it is fascinating because every Italian, basically, who has
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: ever been on reality TV has been investigated. What some
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: got in trouble, Teresa, Mike's situation, the... Gravanos on mob wives.
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: But look at even me. Do you know that I literally,
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: since I spoke my truth about people lifting my material
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: that I've been audited every year for seven years, that's
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: almost illegal. If they do it one more year, I
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: can sue the government.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Are you serious?
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: They've not found one problem. But ever since I spoke out,
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: Against like it just so it I think that there's
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: a tendency that people were not.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: Because you spoke out because you because people are lifting
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: material lifting, meaning taking your jokes, stealing your jokes.
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: Whether it was in whether it was on purpose or not.
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: It just got to a certain point. But also Cosby
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: tried to sue me, too.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: That was Bill Cosby did.
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, because I brought him into the whole thing
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: because I said at least he knocked his victims out
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: first again. that was way before me too.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: And was this before he was even?
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: Before he was prosecuted. So I got a cease and
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: desist and everything.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: So you said that before. Who was the guy that
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: got it going?
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: Right about the same time as.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: My friend. What was his name? He starts with a T. No.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: It's an H. You're right. Hannibal.
• 59:33
  Speaker 6: Hannibal. Yeah.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: He's my friend. Hannibal... Did a set or it was
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: his show.
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: Probably around the same time.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: And that's when he was like, and we're just going
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: to all like to act like this didn't happen. And
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: that went viral in this day and age, a clip
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: of it that someone took from the audience. And that
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: is what truly got him reinvestigated and everything and everybody
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: coming forward and everybody talking about it.
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: And right in between there, in the middle of it.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: They were very litigious to the fact that, you know, look,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: I don't have jello pop. I'm doing this podcast about
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: crime and comedy. And I won't even cover it because
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't have jello pudding money. I can't
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: afford to say the wrong thing. I probably should shut
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: up right now if I had any brains in my head.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: I'd probably just shut up.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Well, I think at this point, you're saying fact now.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: It's all been proven that he has drugged women. Yeah.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: So he was convicted of that. So now you can
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: say it. But when you were saying it, it was
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: prior to that. And that's why they were trying to
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: shut you up.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: When they say the streets talk, they talk. And they
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: usually tell the truth.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: It's not anything new.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Things.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: Right. When something comes out in the world, like, for example,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: all this ditty stuff, we're not going to talk about
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: it because I don't get you or me in trouble.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: But that's not.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I have it. I have it here.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: But I was like, it's just so dark and awful.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: But just all this stuff is new. All this stuff.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: Like when you watch these shows. And Bethany's trying to
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: talk about the reality tricks. They've been doing that. When
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: we had Last Comic Standing, and it was a voting show,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: don't forget. We lived in a house, and then they
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: were supposed to vote for us, right? They created scenes.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: They talk about three women. I was the bitch. Kathleen
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: Madigan was the oddball. And they made Bonnie McFarland seem
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: like she was a whore, which she wasn't, but she's brilliant.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: But that was the position for women on reality TV
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: back then, if you remember. Seven guys who were all
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: what they were, who we loved, those guys. But there
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: was a scene with me that looked like I was
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: plotting against somebody. And if you look at it, I
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: have two different outfit on. Like, here's me like in this.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Wait, were you on the first season?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: Second. We had 18 million viewers. It blew up.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: Wait, who was?
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: I don't want to brag, but I had 320 MySpace followers.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Who was your? 320,000 you mean. Who was your winner?
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: John Heffron. Very funny. Okay.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Gary Goleman. And the year before was the Vietnamese guy
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: that won.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: Dat Phan won.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: But, you know, they did a lot of things. Reality
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: has been the executives at NBC turned their backs on
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: us on the upfronts because they didn't. believe in the
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: reality the scripted division they turn their backs they don't
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: want to talk to.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Us you know when we started talking early in the
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: show I meant to tell you this there was this
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: thing that I did at the Groundlings where these two
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: guys were going to do a pilot presentation of a
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: sitcom that they wrote and they're like can you play
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: the girl that works at the hardware store or whatever
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, sure, thinking if this gets picked up,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: I'll be able to get them right. So anyway, so
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: they have all these executives come to see like this
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: read through or whatever, not a read through, see it
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: acted out of these two weird guys that work at
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: a hardware store. And we all think it goes great.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: We practiced and did it and everyone got laughs and
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: all these suits are there. And after it's over, and
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: I go, well, that went really well, don't you think?
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: And they're like, it's dead. It's never gonna happen. And
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: I go, why? And they were like, we looked out,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: the two guys who were like the main company groundlings
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: at this time. I was in the Sunday show, which
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: is like the B team. And there was an executive
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: there that was trying to get into the Sunday show.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: And the main people voted on that. which people from
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: level four would get into Sunday show. And they didn't
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: vote him in. And he was very pissed and weird
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: and vocal and angry about it to the point where
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: like he made a stink. And now he is the
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: decision maker. Yeah. And they were right. Went nowhere. And
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: that's why I say how it could just be one
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: person where it's like, Yeah.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: You don't even know.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm sure. I'm going to get you back now.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: I have death by paper cuts. That's the name of
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: my new book that I'm writing. Because it's, I mean,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: I once put a drink down on, I was at
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: NBC doing a development deal and I put my drink
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: down like this on what I thought was a coaster.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: But it wasn't.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: And the guy was like, ah! And it was like
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: this antique, this piece of this fossil that he had
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: picked up. And I'm like, okay, I guess that meeting's over.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: We're done. There's a million stories I can tell you why.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: And then there's probably a million more.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Why not?
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: That's why it's hard when I love the reality stuff.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: I really do. But when they're complaining and they're trying
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: to do this reckoning and stuff, you came to the
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: table with your personality, right? You didn't come with a talent.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: So sometimes the personalities don't show and they had to
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: do tweaks to get it out. I do think that
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: some of it's ridiculous. You don't, you know, you don't
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: ply people with alcohol. But then again, you know, you're
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: going to be on TV. So don't drink the alcohol.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: You know, I know that I literally... One time on
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: a third show Saturday called myself Terry Pescatelli. Thanks for coming.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: I'm Terry Pescatelli. I never drink and go on stage again. Okay.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: My name is Tammy, by the way, if people don't know.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, really? Yes. Good for you. Okay, a little follow-up
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: on the Michael Orr. This is from The Blind Side.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: I've talked about this. You know the movie From the
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Blind Side, how it was based on a real story.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: The Chewies, we thought they adopted him. He went to Mississippi.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: He became an NFL player. And now he's come forward
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: and he was suing and saying, you didn't really adopt
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: me and I didn't get my fair share of the movie.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: The Tuohys came back and said, you, along with our
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: two kids and ourselves, we each got the exact same amount, $ 138, 000
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: for the movie. That's it. You know, that's what we
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: agreed to. That's what the life rights. You know, you
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: sign this thing and you don't know what's going to
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: be Oscars and this and that. That's what they got.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: So he's saying all this awful stuff about them a
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: couple months ago, you know, that they didn't care and
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: that they did this conservative shit. conservatorship. And they said, well,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: that's because he was over 18.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: You can't adapt an adult.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He was over 18 when he was playing football
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: in the high school. And, and then, you know, well,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: this is what, well, the movie was not, it was
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: based on a true story. So if it showed him,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: you know, like it didn't have to be completely real. Like,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: so people want to do that smarter. So now it
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: comes out that the two E's are showing text messages and,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: in which he threatened them and said, give me $ 10
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: million right now or I'm going to go to the
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: press and say all this stuff about you and it's
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: going to look horrible.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: And they still were like, you know, whatever. And then
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: he said, now that you didn't respond.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: Michael, Michael, I got a gun in my purse, Michael.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: I have. I have lunch with the president of the PTA,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: the ARA, and the AARP.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: Is that from the movie?
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: I don't remember what she said.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Something like that. Yeah, she was like the district attorney.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: And she taught him how to play football. And, of course,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: then we find out, no, he knew how to play
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: football before. He was already playing there. Okay, fine. Who cares?
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: That's the movie. Anyway, he then says, now that you
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: didn't get back to me, now it's going to be
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: $ 15 million.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's extortion.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: So- I think we get the picture now. I mean, yeah. Like,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: so I don't know where all his money went. People
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: think that this could be caused from CTE. which is
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: the brain injury that happens to football players sometimes. And
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: maybe that is why he's acting this way. I think
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: he could have run out of money. I think, I
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: think it could be a lot of things. It's just
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: really sad because we love the story. And I truly
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: believe these families exist and they do treat these children
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: that they did not give birth to as their own.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: And they still said, we still love him. We still
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: want to make up with him. But because this lawsuit
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: now is here, we've got to share the evidence of
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: him trying to extort us.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: And they immediately, when he first came out with it,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: they weren't even going to cancel Sandra Bullock.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: They were like... I know. What does that have to do.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: Her partner died of ALS.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: Wait, and when she won the Academy Award for The
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: Blind Side was about a week after when Jesse James
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: was cheating on her.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: With multiple porn stars.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so she was like all of, it was just
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: all crazy.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: For the one, yeah, which is so sad because now
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: you like, have you ever looked back at things in
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: your life? I have, and there's been some like Times where, unfortunately,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: there was this amazing thing happening in my career that
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: may never happen again. And at the same time, an
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: awful thing was happening personally. And it bums me out
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: that they were happening at the same time Cause I'm like, fuck,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: you know, that overshadowed that great thing that may never happen.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: And that's exactly what happened to her.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: Well, that's what it's like being Italian, by the way.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: That's what it's like being Italian. Cause you can never
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: focus on the good. Okay. That, that's now you've just explained. That's,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: that's the problem right there. That's, that's, yes, that's right there. So,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: but yeah, no, that's exactly with, with them. I think
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: the other thing that kind of bums me out with
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: this whole story is that it reminds me, again, when
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: I talk about my brother and everything, people think that
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: you're on television and that you literally have a tree
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: in your backyard that you're picking money off of.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: So true.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: They never count your bills. They only count your checks.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: They don't understand what it takes to maintain money. That
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: you have an agent, a manager, attorneys figure things out.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: You have travel. You have this. The government takes this.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: Because I pay all my taxes and it's all completely correct.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: But they never think about that. They only think the money.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: And it's sad that even he didn't really wasn't fully
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: present to understand. Now, do I think that they probably,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 5: the husband and wife, could have given their $ 138, 000 combined
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 5: to him? They could have. But not $ 10 million.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: But also at the time, he was making millions of
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: dollars as an NFL player. So I think they were like,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: this is fine.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 5: Well, I'd give them that and be like, if that's
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: what you want, take it. Because we really don't even
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: want to be part of this story anymore. You can
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 5: have it. But the truth is, is that look, like...
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: Where does he think $ 10 million? That movie didn't make
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: $ 10 million that went to them.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: Right. They didn't go to them. They sold their life
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: story and their lifelikeness. Yeah. It's the studio then that
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: made all that money. And yeah, they didn't profit. They
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: were already wealthy. They already had their... food franchises and stuff.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: Which is great. So they were like, I love that
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: the story is so inspiring and you guys are going
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: to make a movie out of it. Great. They probably
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: didn't negotiate hard enough for themselves because they didn't need
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: the money. And also, they're not movie people. So whatever
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: attorney they got might have not known to put in
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: the contract. And if it gets to this amount of millions,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: then they get an extra bonus. And the way people
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: do back end now, people don't always.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: They didn't know if Sandra Bullock was going to play.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: That or me. It could have been on Lifetime.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 5: Right. It could have gone nowhere.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: To the shed with me. Yeah. But it's true. Like,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: they didn't know that it was going to be such
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: a hit. You know, nobody does about these things. It's heartbreaking.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 5: It's heartbreaking that people just count your money.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: And also because it was a beautiful story. And these
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: families do exist. You know, and I've talked about my
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: really good friend who is a mom of two football players.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: And she was very, not didn't like officially adopt them,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: but had boys stay at her house and worked with
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: their moms to make it a better environment for them
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: to succeed in school. She was that person that's like,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: they can live here. And she kept in touch with them.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: And she says, my son and my grandchild and all
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: of that. So it's like I don't want people to
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: think that this can't exist because it can. Oh, it
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: totally can. And it's beautiful and it comes from really
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: good hearts, you know. And just because the people are
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: white and wealthy does not mean that their heart wasn't
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: in the right place, you know.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: Just the fact that he made it to the NFL,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: he had to have a support system that really helped.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, I always think that I see that Travis
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: Kelsey's mom before Taylor– Just the story last year, can
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: you imagine being the mom whose sons are playing each
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 5: other in the Super Bowl?
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: Like she has to have a jersey cut in half
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 5: and sewn together because she knows it's both her kids' dreams,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: but only one of them is going to be the winner.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: Like that's got to be heartbreaking as a mother.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: I can relate because my son, Drake, who's 21, and
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: my other son, who's 17, he's almost 18. They were,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: we were playing pickleball and they were, each took a cousin.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: So they were playing against each other. And I literally said, wow.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: Who do I pick? I know how it feels to
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: be the Kelsey mama. Oh, you should. I did not
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: know who to root for. I didn't know if I
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: want to go for the little one.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: See.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: Or the firstborn. Do I go for the heir or
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: the spare?
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 5: Well, if the spare gets the fair haired.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: Taylor.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: I think he won all the way around that.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: So I know what it's like to have two boys
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: I didn't know I was talking to someone who had
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: really lived this.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, I've lived it.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: I just want to ask you. So how were you
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: able to navigate post the pickleball? The extravaganza that was
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: the pickleball.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: Well, luckily we went to lunch after and once everyone
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: was fed, no one cares or remembers because they're boys.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: So it's all good.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: They've recovered.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: They've recovered and they're not jealous or anything as long
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: as food was part of the afternoon. I honestly don't
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: even remember who won.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: I do. You called me and complained about it. No,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: I'm just kidding. You didn't at all.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: Okay. I thought this was interesting. Cardi B and Offset,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: who I believe they're married. They definitely have two kids together.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: And yesterday they unfollowed each other. And of course, the
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: fans figured it out. And listen, if you're mad at
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: somebody and you don't want to see them going out
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: because you're taking a break from them, you can mute them.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: By unfollowing is you want the fans to know that
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: some shit has gone down and you are pissed. Yes.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: And you want them to turn on your husband, ex-friend,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: business partner, whatever. Yep.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: But when you hit that unfollow button, it's like literally saying,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: let the games begin.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: You know, it really is like, all right, let's see
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: how this goes down. You want to cheat on me?
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: Let's see how this shit works right now. See if
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 5: you can handle it. Now, what I will say is, again,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: that's generational. This generation unfollows each other. We followed each other.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: You want to cheat on me, I'm going to follow
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: you everywhere and find where you go and what you're doing.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 5: It's just, it's the adaptation.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: In real life, in real life, yeah.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 5: Switch cars with your best friend and buy a wig
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 5: and drive past their uncle's house. Like, we did everything.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 5: It's interesting. These two have always fascinated me. She was really,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: talk about reality show. I mean, she was on Love
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 5: and Hip Hop New York. Super dynamic personality, super dynamic personality.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: They barely they didn't even show any of her musical stuff,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 5: none of it. And so she was just destined to
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 5: be a personality out there. So it's amazing to see
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 5: the level. That she's gone to.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: And that, you know, a lot of people don't pop
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: like that from reality. I mean, there's only been like
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: a handful of people that have like really gone on
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: and done something. Her being the biggest for music, but
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: like Elizabeth Hasselbeck.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: She was probably the only, like, she came from Survivor
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: and she was a regular on The View. Now she's
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: done and over it. We don't hear from her. That's fine.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: But she definitely hit a level of success that she
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: would have never gotten that, would have never been discovered
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: had she not gone the Survivor route. So it's like,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: I do see why people do reality TV and I
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: don't think they shouldn't because you definitely can emerge and
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: do other things.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, she definitely... I mean, I think Cardi, I'm glad. Again,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 5: I like to say that. I'd like to see her win.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: Elizabeth Hasselbeck, I remember with her on Survivor because I
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: watched it because she was just fading away. They had
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: her on that show and she was getting skinny. She
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 5: started out tiny.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: Like I think if you're ever going to go on
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: one of those shows where they put you on an island, you.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: Have to eat. Fatten yourself up.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: Eat, eat, eat. You have to show up like you
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 5: can't even move.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you have to be in a bikini.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: So you want to look kind of good.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 6: So what?
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: Then you get development. Then you get all those deals
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 5: because you got skinny people. You could be the spokesperson for,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: you know, Ozempic Stone. They'll come up with something. Like,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 5: did you take Ozempic? No, I just banged my head
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: against a rock and I felt passed out and didn't eat.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know what it is.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Okay, this is juicy. Okay, Real Housewives
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: of Salt Lake City. We've talked about Monica. Monica is
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: the new girl who is in a lawsuit with Heather Gay,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: who's the owner of the beauty lab. Before she got
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: on the show, she got some Botox and she did
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: not pay her bill. And then Heather Gay's company sued her.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: She had a different name. So when Heather wasn't even
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: aware that this new girl that was on the show
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: was the person that she was in this lawsuit with
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: for $ 4, 000. And once it became.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: Then she countersued and said that the Botox wasn't good.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: Yet then Heather's people presented text messages in which she
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: wrote and said, I love my Botox. I never look better.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: I'm telling everybody to go to the beauty lab. But
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: really what got her hired was that she had an
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: affair with her husband's sister's husband, brother-in-law that way. Yeah. Okay.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: And they have found him. And here he is.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: He's hot.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: He's a hot fire department chief. He's a Utah fire
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: department chief. And from what I read, and this is,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: I think this is from The Sun, it was revealed,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: and Bravo Snark and all these people have picked up.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: But what they revealed, what I read was, I was
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: thinking that he stayed married to the sister. And I
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: was like, wow. this kind of sucks that this story
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: is out. Because if they were going to try to
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: make this family work, I'm almost happy to hear that
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: they didn't stay together. I think it makes Monica's story
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: less awful, honestly. Because he, not that it was her fault,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: I just felt bad that if this couple... We're going
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: to forgive each other if she was going to forgive
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: him for the affair and they're trying to stay together.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: And then the mistress, ex-sister-in-law goes on the show. We
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: knew we would find him. We knew we would find him.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: But from what I read is no, that marriage ended
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 5: Well, I know that exact story in real life.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: I know that.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 5: I mean, not them, but I know I had this friend.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 5: I'm going to try to make sure that I say
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 5: she got very sick. She had brain cancer. Her sister-in-law
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 5: came in, her brother's wife, to be the caregiver, okay?
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 5: The sister-in-law and the husband of the sick woman had
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 5: an affair. It blew the entire family up. The two
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 5: of them went off together for a little bit. It
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: didn't work out. Eventually, the woman dies. It's just a
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: big— it' s a sad story. But the hardest part was the
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: parents— The parents of the brother and sister whose spouse
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 5: is cheated together, they don't know what to do. They
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: still have to interact with the grandchildren. Both of their
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: kids are miserable. I mean, it's a horrible thing what
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: they did.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: And both of them.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: Have kids that their exes, their grandparents have to deal with.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: So here we are just posting it right out. And
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: by the way, is that when Monica got the Botox
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: from Heather's place?
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, she looks gorgeous.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: She looks fantastic there.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: I feel that's another tough one.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's hot. People have affairs. It happens. They
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: found him. I'm glad I'm not the one that found him.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: I did not want to search and find it. Hopefully,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: the ex-sister-in-law and his ex-wife has gone on to live
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: a happy life. And recovered from the fact that her
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: husband cheated with her sister-in-law. And hopefully Monica's ex-husband is
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: living a nice thing. But I mean, it is fascinating
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: that you cheat within your own family. And it's like,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: also that the fact that you brought this... I just
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: thought between her ex-husband and the fire chief's ex-wife, that brother-sister, like...
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: It was like you, you know, like they're like, it
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: was your wife. Well, it was your husband. Well, it
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: was your wife. Well, it was your husband. Like, I
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: hope that their brother-sister relationship can come back if it
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: was good before. I hope it could come back now
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: that they're both divorced. Yeah. And be like, let's be
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: real careful about who we bring in and make sure
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: that these people are not attracted to each other. Forget it.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: Thanksgiving is off. We are never sharing a house together
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: for a ski weekend. No way. Never. We are never
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: going to the shore house. We are never getting in
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: a houseboat. We are never getting in anywhere that has
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: a basement where the two of them could go down
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: and get extra Diet Cokes and have a quickie.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: I can't live that life. I can't live. I have
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 5: dated cheaters. I've had all that stuff in my life,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 5: but I can't live that. I can't– my husband, thank God,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: I love him and I trust him as much as
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: I'm going to trust somebody. I'll never– you know. But
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 5: I can't live where I'm afraid to go to the
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 5: bathroom because I'm afraid that you guys are going to
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 5: be blowing each other while I'm going to pee. You
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: know what I mean? Like I can't live that way.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 5: You can't sleep. I don't care how much your toes
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 5: are curled. If your fists are balled up, it doesn't work.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: It just doesn't work.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: That's a fun expression. I don't really understand it.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 5: You know how you're always nervous? They curl your toes
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 5: because you're in love and you're having sex.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, you curl your toes from fucking.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and sex. But if your fists are balled up.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: Is that an old Italian thing?
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 5: Your fists being balled up?
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: No, what you just said. Is that a Terry Pascatelli?
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: A Terry Pascatelli.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 5: It's probably Terry. It's probably the drunken part of me.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 5: Am I Rachel Raquel?
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: No. Anyway, I just loved this. Kaylee Coco. Is Coco Coco?
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: How do you say it? Quoco. Quoco. Say you say it.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: Says wearing faux bangs in 2013 SAG Awards was the
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: worst thing I've ever done. It's an exclusive by people.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: There's an amazing photo of her. And I just want
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: to say. I don't think I've loved a woman more
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: that has talked about a hair mistake from 10 years ago.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: And I, too. It wasn't on the red carpet. But
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: I will tell you my faux bang story.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 5: I'd love to hear it.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: Okay. There was a kiosk in the mall. And this
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: probably would have been.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 5: Oh, I've seen those hair kiosks.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: I remember the office I was in. I was at
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: Chelsea lately. It was the original studio. So it had
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: to be like before like 2012. Okay. Somewhere. So it's
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: around this time. And I, you know, went and they
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: had the fake ponies and all this and the bangs
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: and You know, I put it on and I was like, oh,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: my God, I look so, like, chic because I don't
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: have bangs and I don't want to cut bangs because
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: of this weird, like, side cowlick thing. So bangs, like,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: never really worked. Like, I could do, like, a side bang,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: but it never really worked. So I'm like, I think
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: I'm jamming. I think it looks really good.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: By the way, that's not even real hair probably, right?
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, no. It was like you can't curl it. It
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: says don't curl.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: So.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: I like in my office, which my desk looked out
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: and we always had the doors open. Like we always
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: had our doors open in these, these offices at Chelsea Lately.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: And I decided to wear it on Monday to the office.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if it was Tom or EP
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: or Chelsea. I don't know which one saw it first.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: But they told the other to say, something fucking died
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: on Heather's head. You need to go check.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: It out.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I went to the writers' meeting
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: or not. But thank God I realized that day it's
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: a mistake because Chelsea or Tom or both called me out.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: And I was like, all right. Took them out and
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: never wore them again and never wore them on the
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: round table, thank God. But I can see why people
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: did it. And I want to know, have you found
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: successful faux bangs 10 years later? Because obviously this was
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: a mistake. Yeah. And it looks like a really bad wig.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 5: Well, at least they were fake because I once cut
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 5: them in.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: That's horrible. What made you do that?
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 5: Watching Shannon Doherty on 90210.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: It's all her fault.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: God bless her. I hope she's healthy. But, I mean,
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 5: it's all her fault. She looks so cute with those bangs.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 5: They were straight across Brenda. They look so beautiful.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 7: I remember Heather Dubrow of Real Housewives of O.C., Like
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 7: was getting ready for the reunion and somebody doing her
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 7: hair talked her into the bangs.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: So she comes out with the bangs and Andy's like, oh, okay,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: you have bangs, you know? And she's like, yes, you know,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: and whatever. And then Terry, her husband, comes out. We're
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: going to bring the husbands out. And that's the first
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: time he sees her with the bangs. And he's like, oh. Um,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: and we went, we were, I was like friendly with
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: them at that point. And we like went out to
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: dinner after that. And I go, okay, now the bangs
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: are growing and she's looking. And I go, it doesn't
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: seem like you're too thrilled with the bangs. And he's like, well,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: my God, you know, my wife has a perfect face.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: You don't put bangs on a perfect face like that,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: which I thought was really sweet. But like, I just think, yeah,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: so those are two things. Lessons to be learned. Be
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: careful with the bangs. Not for everyone.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 5: I had the one little clip and it just kept
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 5: sliding down. It's like I'm holding it back to say
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 5: hello to people.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: Amazing. Okay, last thing to talk about. Kristen Cavallari is
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: getting a lot of press off of this. She basically said,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: you know, there's nothing wrong. It doesn't, quote, She's getting
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: slammed for this. It doesn't fucking matter when you sleep
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: with a guy or not. Basically, she says, I've talked
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: to dating experts or whatever, and they said 90% of
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: their best couples boned on the first or second date.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: So if there's chemistry, go for it. It doesn't matter.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean your relationship is going to be more
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: likely to happen or not happen if you wait. And
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: so people are... She's getting slammed for it. What is
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: your thought? Why who, though? Just by people in the comments.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because look.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: Not that people are like marching on Washington. They're writing
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: from their phone and taking a shit. Well, first of all, look, again,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: it's all we had the rules.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: If they didn't call you by Wednesday, you couldn't go
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: on a date on Saturday.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: You know, that's how I got. I hooked in. Peter
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: was the rules. Really? The first and only time I
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: used it. So should I be mad?
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 5: You got scammed.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: Those two women got divorced, remember? Yeah, you guys. I've
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: talked about it, you guys. It's a classic book. It's
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: from the 90s. It's called The Rules. And these two
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: women who were happily married got together and interviewed their
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: grandmothers or something and created a book. No, no.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 5: Maybe it was a book. I think it was an article.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: I guess they did the rules to get married. I
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: don't know. But they created the rules, which did work
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: when the book came out because there was no texting
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: and there was no iPhones. So you could... A guy
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: could leave a message on your voicemail and you could technically,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: or your answering machine even, because voicemail you could call
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: and check it. But an answering machine, you had to
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: physically be back in your house to press it and
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: see that someone called. So it would be easier to
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: play hard to get, which was the guy calls you
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: and you're not home because you're out dating other men
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: living your life.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 5: Let me explain what hard to get was. It was
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 5: not giving it up on the first night. That's what
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 5: it meant. It meant that you treated yourself as if
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 5: you were special and they were lucky to get you.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 5: So that was a different thing. Or, you know, like
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 5: you didn't, if they called you on Wednesday and said,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 5: do you want to do something on Saturday?
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: You didn't go. You had to. Yeah.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 5: They said, even if you're not doing anything, make it
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: seem like you're doing something.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: It totally worked. For me.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 5: That's great.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: I got it. I read it. I met Peter. And
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: I was like, and I remember he, I was driving
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: home from work. Don't mean to brag, but I did
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: have a cell phone. And because it was like 1999
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: Cost you $ 17 a minute to make the phone call
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 5: from it. But okay.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: And he's like, so do you want to go to
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: movie night? Do you want to, you know, well. He
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: would not have said, I love you. We had not said,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: am I your boyfriend, girlfriend? Yeah. And I was like, oh, well,
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: I can't tonight. I have plans. And I did. I
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: had plans to go to this charity event that I
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: think Shannon Bedore had something to do with, believe it
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: or not, from Real Housewives of Boise. Because she was like,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: I create charities. I don't know. And it was called
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: like the Bachelor Ball or whatever. Yeah. I figured he
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: could figure out that that was happening because there were
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: guys he knew. But I was going. I was going
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: with this guy. And I kind of felt like I
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: was sort of cheating on him. But the rules said,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: if you didn't ask me before Wednesday, this guy asked me.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: So it was like you dressed up and we went.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: And I did make out with the guy. But he left.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: Peter calls me at 7 a.m. that morning.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: Hi.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: Hi.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 5: Sneaky butt.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: To see if some dude's over. And I go, hi.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: And he goes, what are you doing? Oh, nothing, just
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: waking up. And he's like, would you like to go
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: to breakfast? And I go, okay. He's like, all right,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: I'll be there in a half hour.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 5: Hysterical.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: So we went to breakfast and then we went rollerblading.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: And hung out the whole day.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 5: And then he locked it down.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: And then he locked it down. Yeah. He's not going
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: to have me go to another bachelor ball. But, and
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: then I remember, so everything's working out. We're doing great.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: And then we go to visit my sister in Palm Springs,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: looking to where her husband and she lived. And they
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: were just married at that time. And she starts joking,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: completely revealing the secret of the rules. Stop.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 5: Talking about the rules. You weren't supposed to tell anybody.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 7: I know.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: And then she goes.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 5: The first rule of rule club is you don't tell
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 5: anybody the rules.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: And he goes, oh, I was wondering why this girl
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: wasn't calling me back. Oh. Because you're not supposed to
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: call them back right away.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 5: Wow, what a hater.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: You're supposed to act like you're busy. You're doing shit.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 5: No, I had a friend that sent herself flowers. That's
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 5: what it said. You're supposed to send yourself flowers so
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 5: they show up and mysteriously there are some roses that
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 5: just are being delivered. I didn't do that because I
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 5: didn't have the money. I probably could have if I
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: would have had money, but no. Yeah, you had to.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: But see, it's like.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 5: When people say to me about comedy, like, what do you,
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 5: that they're being comedians who have advice, I said, do
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 5: you want to be funny or do you want to
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 5: be famous? It's two separate things. Do you want to
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 5: just date or are you trying to get married? There's
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 5: two different things.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 5: Like, what Kristen is saying is not wrong, but she's
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 5: already been married. She's just in the time of her
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 5: life probably to have fun. You know, I think that
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 5: there are certain things to those rules that stay no
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 5: matter what year it is.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think there is an element that is inherent
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: to men. that they have a competitiveness.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they want what somebody else has.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: 100% they do. And I think that it's a different time.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: Women just haven't realized that and they're being like, well,
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: I'll come over. I'll send you nudes. I'll do this.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: There's no mystique. One of the things that Leah McSweeney
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: said and one of the things like, I've sent so
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: many losers nudes for free. Why not make money off
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: the nudes? Why is it a standard that you're just
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: sending nudes to people that you're not in a relationship with?
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  Speaker 2: Sending the nudes, I think, is worse than just sleeping
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  Speaker 2: with someone on the first date. Because what are you
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: getting out of that?
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  Speaker 5: Just put it on your business card. We don't even
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 5: have business cards anymore, but why don't you just pass
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 5: those out? Why don't you put it on your profile picture?
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  Speaker 5: I think that's easier.
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  Speaker 2: So realize that... Guys may not even realize it because
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: the sex has come so easy to them. They might
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: not even realize that they are competitive beings, you know,
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  Speaker 2: but they are. They are about business. They are about
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: sports and they will be about you. So make it
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of a challenge and that will kind
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  Speaker 2: of incite them.
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  Speaker 5: I learned that from the rules, but I also learned it.
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  Speaker 5: I lived in L.A. has these, you know, the weird
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  Speaker 5: enclaves of people. Sometimes and I moved into a eight
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  Speaker 5: unit apartment building that was I'd like to call it
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 5: a stripper colony because it was myself and a young
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  Speaker 5: black attorney and then strippers of different different times in
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 5: their career. Like we had this one I used to
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  Speaker 5: call Magda because she was old. She'd go get the
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  Speaker 5: she'd go get the mail with her boobs just swinging
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  Speaker 5: in the wind. She'd lay naked and she'd go dance
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  Speaker 5: in Henderson on the weekends. Then we had this beautiful
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 5: one that was like, the first time I met her,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 5: she handed me this bag. She goes, my boyfriend's coming.
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  Speaker 5: Can you hold this for me? I don't know what
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 5: it is. It was her luggage. She had actually just
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 5: come from, she had went off with a Sultan in Dubai. Oh,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 5: she's one of those girls. And she came back and
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 5: opened up her bag and she had like $ 10, 000 in cash. Meanwhile,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 5: this has been in my house the whole time. One
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 5: collected pets. One had like, she was so beautiful, but-
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: Her house was like, there was flying birds and free-form
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 5: rabbits and two dogs. I mean, it was insane. But
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 5: those women, who I probably wouldn't have been friends with
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 5: at home. I'll just be honest. Like, we wouldn't have
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 5: had the same circle of friends. But in Los Angeles,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 5: we were the same friends. And comics have Mondays off.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 5: And so do strippers. They really taught me. I mean, again,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: you know, I was like, hey, how you doing? I
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 5: was flirting like Joey from Friends. They taught me about mystique,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 5: have a little bit of mystery, like what they were
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 5: in the sex business, but they weren't just tossing it
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 5: out there every time. So they taught me about, look,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 5: if you're too excited to be with them, they don't
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 5: want you. The guy at the strip club goes for
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 5: the stripper that doesn't pay attention to him.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: True.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 5: And it was so funny. I learned so much about
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 5: That feminine wiles, because my mother didn't have a mother.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 5: Her mother died when she was young. So I didn't
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 5: learn girly things. And they taught me how to be
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 5: a girl. And so the first guy that I was like, oh,
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 5: I'll be just blow off was my husband afterwards.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 6: See? Yeah.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: I blew him off.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 5: I was dating other guys, not sleeping.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: But look, it worked for both of us.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I showed up at a party with another guy.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: When I met my husband for the first time, I
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: was on a date with someone else and I knew
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: he was going to be there. And I said that
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go. I'm going to keep the date.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 5: See, I think they want something that you just already showed.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 5: It's like you pulled up in a nice car already.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 5: I mean, like nobody wants the person who's just sitting
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 5: there waiting for him.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 5: Then eventually they want you to wait for him. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: Well, I loved connecting with you. Tammy, you have a podcast.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: I do. Tell us about that because I think that
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: sounds right up the Juicy Scoop alley.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 5: So it's crime and comedy. I do it with my best,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 5: best friend. I've talked to you about her before, Laura.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 5: Laura Parks, she used to be a police officer. She's
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 5: retired now. I used to go on ride-alongs with her
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 5: to just see her. But we started talking about all
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 5: this stuff that's going on, because we're lucky that as
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 5: young girls traveling around, we didn't get murdered. Apparently in
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 5: the 80s, there were serial killers everywhere. I happened to stay,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 5: I mentioned earlier, with a guy who was a star
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 5: search winner, Vince Champ. And he actually victimized a woman
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 5: the night that he stayed with me. And I had
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 5: to be interviewed by law enforcement because.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: They thought he was my boyfriend. Stayed with you while
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: you were doing stand-up?
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 5: Well, in the condo. We weren't, I didn't know him.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 5: And condos used to just throw people in. There were
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 5: flap houses. I didn't know him from Adam. I didn't
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 5: even work with him. We were just crossing like, you know,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 5: I was leaving and he was coming, but we ended
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 5: up staying in the same apartment that night. Right. I
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 5: don't want to say this word because I don't want
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 5: your algorithm to go off. But, you know, he victimized
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 5: a woman.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 5: And I might have already said the word and messed
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 5: it up for you. I apologize. So the night that
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 5: I was there, but I didn't know anything about it.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 5: And the law enforcement thought I was his girlfriend because
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 5: women weren't on the road. And they're like, why are
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 5: you in an apartment with this guy? And like, that's
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: just where they put us. But I was also dating
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 5: the guy who cheated on me. So it took a
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 5: little while for them because they were like, you're you're
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 5: can I just say the word that your boyfriend's a rapist?
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: And I was like, oh, my God, I thought he
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 5: was cheating on me. I didn't realize they were talking
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 5: about him. I thought they were talking about my boyfriend
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 5: at home. So it was a little bit of a.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 5: Three's Company thing. But Laura and I talk about all
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 5: these crimes in comedy because not making fun of it,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 5: we really just laugh at ourselves. But there's been so much.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 5: I mean, from Phil Hartman to literally Roscoe Arbuckle, you know,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 5: Fatty Arbuckle. He was the first big, big name. He
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 5: used to make a million dollars a week in the
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 5: 1920s and a million dollars a picture in the 1920s.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 5: And there was a woman who died at one of
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 5: his parties. Alcohol was in prohibition and he stood trial
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 5: three times for her murder. So there's a lot of stories.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, I love that.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 5: So it's called The Cop and the Comedian, a true
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 5: friendship crime podcast.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: I love it. And then where can they follow you
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: for your dates and everything? What's your Instagram?
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 5: At Tammy Pescatelli, not Terry, Tammy.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: Go see Tammy. She's such a great stand up and
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: you have lots of dates and you're always out there
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: and listen to her podcast. Enjoy. Thank you, girl. Thank
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: you for my Italian jewelry.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 4: Christmas shopping has already started in our house. My daughter
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 4: is so organised, already planning Christmas gifts from Macaulay. Hair
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 4: care for her aunt and a fab fragrance for her bestie.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 4: But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I'm
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 4: an early bird, buying one present a week from now
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 4: till Christmas, which makes budgeting less stressful. I can buy
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 4: in-store or online from Macaulay.ie for home delivery or free
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 4: click and collect.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: So easy.
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  Speaker 4: Gifts they'll cherish at prices you'll love.