Latest / Sid & Friends In The Morning / Marly Hornik | Executive Director at RealAmerica.Vote Details Report on 2020 NYC Mayoral Election
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Molly Hornick, and she started talking to me about voting
- 0:05Speaker 1: and numbers that didn't add up from Hamdanni, and I
- 0:08Speaker 1: yelled at her. I said, listen, I don't want to
- 0:11Speaker 1: talk about this stuff because it takes the onus up
- 0:15Speaker 1: of the many, many, many real New Yorkers who actually
- 0:19Speaker 1: live here that voted for that guy. I don't believe
- 0:23Speaker 1: that he won because they flew in a bunch of
- 0:25Speaker 1: Muslims or because he stole a bunch of votes. I
- 0:30Speaker 1: really believe that he won because New Yorkers are morons
- 0:33Speaker 1: and they were excited about the priest stuff, and they're
- 0:36Speaker 1: enjoying hating on the Jews, and I don't want that
- 0:39Speaker 1: to go away. So my peer is when we start
- 0:41Speaker 1: talking about, well, the numbers and they cheated, then we
- 0:45Speaker 1: start making excuses for what is becoming a dumber and
- 0:50Speaker 1: more hateful society. But if there is some impropriety going on,
- 0:56Speaker 1: some cheating going on, then it's my responsibility to tell
- 1:01Speaker 1: that story as well. And Molly Hornick, you're at the
- 1:04Speaker 1: very very top of that. Excuse me. So, first of all,
- 1:08Speaker 1: good morning. Second of all, Vicki Palladino, the Great Queen's Councilwoman,
- 1:13Speaker 1: is looking forward to having you won. I guess have
- 1:15Speaker 1: you reached out to her to talk to her about this?
- 1:18Speaker 2: Yeah, I've spoken with her a little bit about it. Yep,
- 1:20Speaker 2: I've met her a bunch of times. She's an incredible force,
- 1:23Speaker 2: amazing woman she is.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Yes, So what is the message you want to deliver
- 1:28Speaker 1: this morning? What happened with mom Donnie? Where all this
- 1:31Speaker 1: research is coming into play right about now?
- 1:34Speaker 3: Right?
- 1:35Speaker 2: So, actually, I really appreciate the way you framed this
- 1:38Speaker 2: because I actually don't know whether mum Donnie won the
- 1:42Speaker 2: mayoral race, and I'm not here to say that he didn't.
- 1:45Speaker 2: The problem we uncovered is that the New York City
- 1:48Speaker 2: and the New York State boards of Elections have no
- 1:51Speaker 2: idea if Mum Donnie won the mayoral election either. And
- 1:55Speaker 2: that's where the rubber meets the road here. And that's
- 1:58Speaker 2: because it's actually the very opening of the United States
- 2:02Speaker 2: Constitution says, we choose the representatives. That way we maintain
- 2:07Speaker 2: control over the laws we must obey. And that is
- 2:12Speaker 2: done by the state of New York and all the
- 2:15Speaker 2: other states promising to qualify every voter according to state law.
- 2:21Speaker 2: So we asked a simple question at Realamerica dot vote.
- 2:24Speaker 2: We said, let's look at the twenty twenty five mayoral race,
- 2:27Speaker 2: let's look at their official records. Did they or did
- 2:31Speaker 2: they not qualify the voters, Because again, it's not about
- 2:35Speaker 2: Mamdannie exactly. I mean, I think a lot of people
- 2:38Speaker 2: really don't like the guy. A lot of people across
- 2:40Speaker 2: the country are worried about the guy. But the question is,
- 2:43Speaker 2: did the election officials make sure we chose this mayor.
- 2:48Speaker 1: That's a fair question. So what did the DOTA actually
- 2:51Speaker 1: tell you?
- 2:52Speaker 2: Well, the shocking news said, and nobody better than you
- 2:55Speaker 2: to break this story, seven per of the voters in
- 3:01Speaker 2: that election do not exist.
- 3:04Speaker 1: They don't exist.
- 3:05Speaker 3: They don't exist.
- 3:06Speaker 1: They could be dead. I just don't exist.
- 3:09Speaker 2: No, they don't exist. They never existed. They don't exist now,
- 3:14Speaker 2: they won't exist in the future. They're not they're not
- 3:17Speaker 2: in utero, they're not dead. They don't exist. The President
- 3:20Speaker 2: actually talked about this last Thursday in his speech. He said,
- 3:24Speaker 2: we're finding voters who don't exist. Well, we're finding the
- 3:27Speaker 2: votes that they voted in Mamdannie's.
- 3:31Speaker 1: Election and they all went to him.
- 3:33Speaker 3: Well I don't know.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Well, that's that's part.
- 3:35Speaker 3: Of the and neither does the New York City part
- 3:37Speaker 3: of election.
- 3:37Speaker 1: We need to know some of those people that don't
- 3:39Speaker 1: exist vote. If a Cuomo was Sliwa right, maybe even
- 3:42Speaker 1: Eric Adams, I don't know, and we all don't imagine
- 3:44Speaker 1: it was Mum Donnie though, yes.
- 3:46Speaker 3: Yes, it's difficult to know.
- 3:48Speaker 2: But we also found that six percent of the voters
- 3:51Speaker 2: have Social Security numbers that the SSA, the official government website,
- 3:56Speaker 2: calls impossible and invalid. So they have fake Social Security numbers.
- 4:01Speaker 2: But they're voting in New York City and New York
- 4:04Speaker 2: State elections.
- 4:05Speaker 1: And do you think these are people here? Do you
- 4:08Speaker 1: think these are foreign entities like the President made the
- 4:11Speaker 1: case for China last Thursday night, who is taking advantage
- 4:15Speaker 1: of some of these flaws?
- 4:17Speaker 2: There is probably a lot of different people taking advantage
- 4:20Speaker 2: of these issues. I don't know exactly who is creating
- 4:24Speaker 2: these problems, but I know who was responsible for preventing
- 4:28Speaker 2: these people from voting.
- 4:30Speaker 3: That is the election officials.
- 4:32Speaker 2: They have a constitutional requirement under the United States and
- 4:36Speaker 2: the New York State constitutions, under the Voting Rights Act.
- 4:39Speaker 2: They are culpable here. And I want to say, you know,
- 4:42Speaker 2: I want people to know right away that all of
- 4:44Speaker 2: this is in the hands right now of the United
- 4:46Speaker 2: States Attorney for the Northern District, John Sarcone and the
- 4:50Speaker 2: FBI Field office in Albany. They are aggressively investigating this
- 4:55Speaker 2: issue and they are prepared to prosecute good.
- 4:58Speaker 1: Actually, John star Cone, which is out to me quite
- 5:00Speaker 1: a bit to come on the program I deal on with.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Text back, John, if you're listening to get back to
- 5:03Speaker 1: I promise, I'm glad to hear that you want on site.
- 5:05Speaker 3: Great patriots.
- 5:07Speaker 1: So, but you're not saying here, not saying you're not
- 5:10Speaker 1: even intimating that the mayor is involved in any of this.
- 5:13Speaker 1: You're placing the blame on the Board of Elections. You're
- 5:16Speaker 1: not saying the mayor is in cohoots with them, are you.
- 5:18Speaker 2: Look, if you're a candidate or a party, you have
- 5:21Speaker 2: an interest in votes, right. If you get enough of them,
- 5:25Speaker 2: then you know, you go from being Joe on the
- 5:27Speaker 2: street to all of a sudden, you have the power
- 5:29Speaker 2: of life and death over the constituents in that district.
- 5:32Speaker 2: You have the right to order people around, and you
- 5:35Speaker 2: have the right you have a monopoly on force against
- 5:37Speaker 2: those people. So there's always an incentive to cheat. That's eternal.
- 5:43Speaker 2: You can never take that away unless you could somehow
- 5:46Speaker 2: make men into angels.
- 5:48Speaker 1: They were saying, if you added up Cuomo Ensley was
- 5:51Speaker 1: numbers because curtises were so pathetic, I'm donnie still with
- 5:55Speaker 1: have one and looking at the difference between Cuomo, who
- 5:59Speaker 1: actually did it decent job, got about forty percent of
- 6:01Speaker 1: the vote, and Mamdani, if you assume that ma'mdanni got
- 6:05Speaker 1: every one. I'm not defending Mamdania. Nobody hates some more
- 6:09Speaker 1: than me, You know that, nobody. But if you assume
- 6:11Speaker 1: that ma'mdanni got every one of that seven percent, he
- 6:15Speaker 1: still wins.
- 6:16Speaker 2: Right, So here's the issue. His margin of victory is
- 6:19Speaker 2: two hundred and seven thousand votes. We found over two
- 6:23Speaker 2: hundred and thirty thousand votes, and we have another one
- 6:26Speaker 2: point two million voters to study. So out of two
- 6:30Speaker 2: point two million voters, we studied about a million of them,
- 6:33Speaker 2: and we found more votes that are apparently illegal than
- 6:37Speaker 2: his margin of victory. Again, the issue is not whether
- 6:41Speaker 2: or not mmdanni one. The issue is whether or not
- 6:43Speaker 2: the boards of elections in New York are actually counting
- 6:47Speaker 2: fair elections so that we are properly represented as we
- 6:51Speaker 2: are constitutionally granted, I think it's both.
- 6:54Speaker 1: I think Mumdani absolutely won, absolutely, because I've never seen
- 6:59Speaker 1: an audience so ent thus about a candidate like I
- 7:01Speaker 1: did last year. I mean, I taught to people on
- 7:03Speaker 1: the street they couldn't wait the vote for this guy.
- 7:05Speaker 1: And I think the Board of Elections was derelict in
- 7:08Speaker 1: their duty. It's both, you know. You look what happened
- 7:10Speaker 1: in New Jersey yesterday with their governor, Mikey Mohammad Cheryl right,
- 7:13Speaker 1: she admitted this sixty six hundred votes out there, only
- 7:17Speaker 1: four hundred took advantage, but there was nearly seven thousand
- 7:21Speaker 1: votes to be had. That was New Jersey yesterday. It's
- 7:24Speaker 1: not just New York. It's going on all over the country.
- 7:26Speaker 3: Agreed.
- 7:26Speaker 2: And I want to bring you back too, because I
- 7:28Speaker 2: have a major lawsuit in Albany in the Northern District
- 7:32Speaker 2: right now, a civil rights lawsuit against Tis James and
- 7:36Speaker 2: the New York State Board of Elections. And among the
- 7:38Speaker 2: many many things we cite in that lawsuit, we caught
- 7:44Speaker 2: them counting four hundred and thirty five thousand votes in
- 7:49Speaker 2: elections without any voter associated at all in their records.
- 7:54Speaker 2: So their records don't show that anyone cast those votes,
- 7:57Speaker 2: But they counted four hundred and thirty five thousand votes
- 7:59Speaker 2: and that's for twenty twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four.
- 8:03Speaker 2: So it's not like this just you know, slam hit
- 8:06Speaker 2: us with the Mamdani issue and maybe they didn't do
- 8:09Speaker 2: the right thing in twenty twenty five. This is a
- 8:12Speaker 2: chronic thing and we have been trying to get redress
- 8:15Speaker 2: on this for five years.
- 8:17Speaker 1: White Tis James in that lawsuit, what's what are you
- 8:20Speaker 1: saying that she was guilty of?
- 8:21Speaker 2: Well, actually it's a First Amendment lawsuit because when New
- 8:25Speaker 2: York Citizens Audit, my first organization was going all over
- 8:28Speaker 2: the state. We actually I trained two thousand people. We
- 8:31Speaker 2: went to over five hundred towns in New York State
- 8:33Speaker 2: and reported the anomalies we found inside of the New
- 8:37Speaker 2: York voter rolls. And what happened was the state Board
- 8:40Speaker 2: of Elections they started sending letters around and accusing us
- 8:43Speaker 2: of being liars and saying, you know, no one's ever
- 8:46Speaker 2: seen the data, this is unequivocally false. And then Tis James,
- 8:50Speaker 2: she joined in the party. She actually on the front
- 8:53Speaker 2: page of news Day, the French page of the Times Union.
- 8:56Speaker 2: This is where we This is where I found out
- 8:58Speaker 2: I was under a criminal investigation and she opened an
- 9:01Speaker 2: investigation into us under the.
- 9:02Speaker 3: Ku Klux Klan Act.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Wow.
- 9:05Speaker 2: So we said, hey, you know, it looks like there's
- 9:07Speaker 2: about six million problems in the voter roles. Are y'all
- 9:10Speaker 2: going to fix it? And they just retaliated. So this
- 9:13Speaker 2: is a major civil rights lawsuit and they have been
- 9:17Speaker 2: trying to get rid of uh, you know, these auditors,
- 9:20Speaker 2: these these processes for years and finally we've got this
- 9:24Speaker 2: in the hands of a criminal prosecutor.
- 9:26Speaker 1: Uh.
- 9:27Speaker 3: The federal federal US attorney is.
- 9:30Speaker 1: Uh, Todd Blanche. Are we're going to see something like this?
- 9:32Speaker 1: Is that too above the pigweight? Probably?
- 9:34Speaker 2: No way, This is this is huge news. And actually
- 9:37Speaker 2: this is just the tip of the iceberg. We want
- 9:39Speaker 2: to run entire elections. We want to run Zelden's complete
- 9:44Speaker 2: election it.
- 9:45Speaker 1: All over again.
- 9:46Speaker 3: No no, no, no, not rerun the election.
- 9:49Speaker 2: We want to We want to ask the same question there,
- 9:51Speaker 2: sure did the state qualify those voters? Did they qualify
- 9:55Speaker 2: the voters for Chuck Schumer, for Letitia James, for Kathy
- 9:58Speaker 2: Hokeel for AOC Maybe they did, but let's find out, right,
- 10:03Speaker 2: because if they didn't, then we need to fix this problem.
- 10:07Speaker 1: Moving dad. Sure, well you're not if you wanted meter
- 10:10Speaker 1: on fam may or you're certainly not giving me any
- 10:13Speaker 1: motivation to do that because I'm not gonna win anyway.
- 10:16Speaker 1: Now you're telling me they're gonna cheat too.
- 10:17Speaker 3: No, we're gonna fix it. That's why we're here.
- 10:20Speaker 1: Okay, So then as you wrap up this very important conversation,
- 10:23Speaker 1: you're terrific money, Thank you so much. Realistically, I know
- 10:27Speaker 1: you got John sarcon on the case and maybe he
- 10:29Speaker 1: gets the Attorney General at some point I don't know,
- 10:31Speaker 1: But realistically, when can something like this be fixed?
- 10:36Speaker 3: Well, that is a great question.
- 10:38Speaker 2: And I know that John Sarcone and the FBI office
- 10:41Speaker 2: up there, they are aggressively investigating this. They want to
- 10:44Speaker 2: fix it as quickly as possible. And there is a
- 10:47Speaker 2: lot of precedent for this because when election officials don't
- 10:52Speaker 2: qualify voters, they certify false tallies, which is a federal
- 10:56Speaker 2: crime that people have gone to prison for since eight Wow.
- 11:01Speaker 1: Where can people find out more about all this data
- 11:03Speaker 1: and what you guys are doing every day?
- 11:04Speaker 2: Realamerica Dot Vote is the website you can follow me
- 11:08Speaker 2: on x Marley Hornick one or Real America vote on X.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Great job, Molly Hornic. Good to see you. I see
- 11:14Speaker 1: what every event now, I see you everywhere. Now you're inside.
- 11:17Speaker 2: I was stalking you because I knew that you really
- 11:20Speaker 2: wanted to report the story.
- 11:21Speaker 1: Oh I did. I did, and you did a great
- 11:22Speaker 1: job of doing that. So thank you so much, Thank you.
- 11:24Speaker 1: We'll see you soon. That is Mally Hornic. Everybody one
- 11:27Speaker 1: more time, Wheel America dot dot vote and find out
- 11:31Speaker 1: exactly what's going on and why there are issues seemingly
- 11:34Speaker 1: still all over the country right here in New York City.
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