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Litia Garr Talks SLOMW, Let's Marry Harry, And All The DRAMA! · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, we have an incredible interview with Latia coming up.
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  Speaker 1: We're so excited to have her talk a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about Taylor Frankie Paul, her role on The Secret Lives.
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  Speaker 2: Of Mormon Wives.
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  Speaker 1: She's pretty close to that community. But we also wanted
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  Speaker 1: to let you know that we did record this interview
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  Speaker 1: before the breaking news that Taylor Frankie Paul is stepping
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  Speaker 1: away from The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. We hope
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  Speaker 1: you enjoy this interview of us catching up with Latia.
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  Speaker 1: She gives us some good tea.
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  Speaker 3: This is the Ben and Ashley I, Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 3: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back to Almost Famous. It's Ben and Ashley, and
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  Speaker 4: we are so excited because today we get to talk
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  Speaker 4: to one of our favorites. In fact, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: about you, Ash, but she'd probably fall in my top five.
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  Speaker 4: She made a season happen that was really not.
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  Speaker 5: Even a season. Ben, top five is a really powerful ranking. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Of the past few years, you're a big player.
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  Speaker 4: Think about it this way. That season, if we're honest, was, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it was fine. It aired, would be the credit I
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  Speaker 4: would give it. It made television.
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  Speaker 5: And that is important these days.
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  Speaker 2: Which is more, yeah, which is more than they can
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  Speaker 2: say for some.
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  Speaker 4: She left Bachelor Nation a few years ago, but she's
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  Speaker 4: still popping up on our screens over on the Secret
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  Speaker 4: Lives of Morven Wise. We're going to talk about that.
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  Speaker 4: And her cousin recently made a huge splash. We got
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  Speaker 4: to talk to her right here. You can go back
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  Speaker 4: and listen to that episode on Let's Marry Harry. There's
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  Speaker 4: a lot to talk about. Come on now. It's Letia Garr.
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  Speaker 5: Come on now.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, guys.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, Letia. Thanks for coming back.
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  Speaker 1: I will never be able to hear the expression come
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  Speaker 1: on now without hearing you.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm happy about that.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, that is so nice.
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  Speaker 2: I feel the same, and I don't know if I'm
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  Speaker 2: happy about it. I think I could take a few
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  Speaker 2: years off of hearing it, but it was a good moment.
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  Speaker 6: I like it.
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  Speaker 4: Ashley, there's a few lines that stand out to me.
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  Speaker 4: I won't even say it again through this whole episode, Latia,
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  Speaker 4: because you're sick of it, but Becca Kufrin had one
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  Speaker 4: too that really lasted for a while. What was that?
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  Speaker 5: It was, oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: Do the thing. Let's do the thing.
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  Speaker 5: Let's do the damn thing. Do the damn thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That was a good one. Latia, you really did. And
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't blowing smoke. Your season did air. Grant was
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  Speaker 4: the lead of your season. We're going to talk about
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  Speaker 4: Grant today because you have interacted with him or at
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  Speaker 4: least distantly on social media and, Grant has been on
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  Speaker 4: the show before. He will be at the, I believe
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  Speaker 4: he's invited to the Bachelor Nation cruise. So I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to get to meet him in person there. But first off,
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  Speaker 4: I want to talk, you were just recently on Secret
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  Speaker 4: Lives of Mormon Wives. That's been making the headlines recently.
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  Speaker 4: What's your take on everything kind of surrounding that show
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  Speaker 4: right now?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, so we're going to just start with the easy questions.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're just going to dive in.
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  Speaker 5: You think those are easy? Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. No, I think it's so sad what's happening
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  Speaker 2: over there. It seems like they are trying to right
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  Speaker 2: the ship, some of them, and I'm supportive of.
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  Speaker 6: The children.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Which feels like a polarizing thing to say, but
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  Speaker 2: that's how I feel. I hope that everyone gets healthy
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  Speaker 2: soon and a minimum for the kids. I don't know. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy over there. It's, and I'm telling you like
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  Speaker 2: more stuff happens off of that show than on it.
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  Speaker 2: So I, if you think that the show is crazy,
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  Speaker 2: real life is crazier.
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  Speaker 5: So you think that they're editing out stuff because it
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  Speaker 5: just would be too bad.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But I don't, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not there specifically. Like I can't speak to exactly
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  Speaker 2: what happened. I just, it has been that way the
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  Speaker 2: whole time.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: In my opinion.
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  Speaker 4: It's interesting for me because I'm not like a reality
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  Speaker 4: television person. And so I'm kind of catching up behind
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  Speaker 4: all the time. But you were obviously on The Bachelor.
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  Speaker 4: You made a huge splash on that show. And then
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  Speaker 4: I think it was during The Bachelor. I could be
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  Speaker 4: wrong about this, but somebody like mentioned, oh, yeah. And
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  Speaker 4: you're also friends with or you're associated with the women
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  Speaker 4: on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. And immediately following that,
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  Speaker 4: the two worlds collided like headfirst into each other. And you,
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  Speaker 4: in a lot of ways, not stuck in the middle
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  Speaker 4: because there wasn't like controversy surrounding you there. but you
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  Speaker 4: were like your two worlds like hit. And now all
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  Speaker 4: of a sudden you're involved in two of the most
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  Speaker 4: talked about shows on television. Was that weird for you?
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  Speaker 4: Did you see it coming? Did it happen out of nowhere?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's probably pretty similar to your
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  Speaker 2: experience being the bachelor, Ben, like everything feels really big
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  Speaker 2: when it's happening to you, right? Like when it's in
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  Speaker 2: my backyard and everyone lives 15 minutes from my house,
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  Speaker 2: everything feels big, but when like CNN and like all of,
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  Speaker 2: and it's every time I open my phone, there's like
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  Speaker 2: a million opinions about this stuff that is so local
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  Speaker 2: to me. It is so wild.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's insane. I don't think that I saw it coming,
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  Speaker 2: but it's like, I grew up in this place. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm just like floored every time anyone is interested in it.
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  Speaker 2: Cause it all seems so normal to me the lifestyle
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  Speaker 2: at least obviously everything that has transpired in the past
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  Speaker 2: 18 months is like not normal in any way shape
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  Speaker 2: or form no matter what religion you're.
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  Speaker 6: In but I think that.
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  Speaker 2: It has been interesting it has not been boring as
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  Speaker 2: far as life experience I think it's been pretty cool
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  Speaker 2: for me because I don't have my life being blown
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  Speaker 2: apart or you know picked to pieces but It's definitely
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  Speaker 2: challenging for the people who do it. And I think
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  Speaker 2: for one season of The Bachelor, you can do it
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  Speaker 2: and it's so fun. But to do it over and
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  Speaker 2: over and over again, season over season over season, and
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  Speaker 2: it's their real life is, I'm so happy that I
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  Speaker 2: just had to do my one season.
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  Speaker 1: How close are you to the girls? Like actually proximity,
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  Speaker 1: like location-wise?
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  Speaker 2: I'm the closest with Miranda.
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  Speaker 6: Miranda's one of my best friends.
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  Speaker 2: We talk on the phone probably for a few hours
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  Speaker 2: every day and see each other. Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm closest with Miranda.
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  Speaker 1: And now, do you think that since there are so
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  Speaker 1: many departures from the show, you would ever be asked
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  Speaker 1: to be more? I know that you've been in the
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  Speaker 1: background of some scenes. You've never really had like a
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  Speaker 1: real speaking scene. Do you think that they would try
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  Speaker 1: to integrate you into as like a friend of Miranda?
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  Speaker 6: No, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: As in like, no, they wouldn't or no, I'm making
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  Speaker 1: it clear I wouldn't do it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't I don't think they would. I think
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  Speaker 2: they pretty are firmly are like basing everything around moms,
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  Speaker 2: like being a mom or being divorced. And I'm 0
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  Speaker 2: for 2 on those. I yeah, I'll take my clean,
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  Speaker 2: my clean, uninteresting, boring life a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, same here.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not willing to change that to be on
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  Speaker 2: the show is the other part of it, which I
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  Speaker 2: think there are plenty of other people that are absolutely
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  Speaker 2: willing and wanting to do those things.
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  Speaker 6: So I'll let them do it.
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  Speaker 4: There's an interesting... Before we kind of dive in, because
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot to talk to you about. And it is.
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  Speaker 4: I'm curious because so much of it you haven't actually pursued.
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  Speaker 4: It is the randomness of two worlds colliding and then
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  Speaker 4: the controversy surrounding so many people within these two worlds. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: we'll get into the Taylor-Frankie-Paul stuff and how that season
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  Speaker 4: never even aired. And the last season to ever air
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  Speaker 4: on television is a season that you're a part of.
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  Speaker 4: And it probably feels like a lifetime ago for you.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't know how to phrase this without... maybe
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  Speaker 4: coming off a little bit weird, but the Secret Lives
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  Speaker 4: of Mormon Wives show is how people now in the
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  Speaker 4: world are viewing Mormonism. That is a tradition that you
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  Speaker 4: have been a part of and that you are a
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  Speaker 4: part of. You made a comment, and I really wasn't
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  Speaker 4: even going to bring it up, but you made a
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  Speaker 4: comment like, you're used to this. This is the world
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  Speaker 4: you grow up in. But I'm wondering, is this what
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  Speaker 4: you see on the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives?
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  Speaker 2: I have.
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  Speaker 4: people close to me that are a part of the
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  Speaker 4: Mormon religion who this is not their life. This is
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  Speaker 4: not how day-to-day operates. Can you speak a little bit
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  Speaker 4: to that and what we're watching and what's reality and
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  Speaker 4: what's true and where this whole thing falls in the
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  Speaker 4: midst of a faith that you practice and hold on to?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that the dynamics in as far as
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  Speaker 2: having like getting married very young, having a lot of
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  Speaker 2: children very young, staying where you're, you know, you're blooming
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  Speaker 2: where you're planted, kind of just everybody staying in Utah.
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  Speaker 2: Those are things that are normal to me. And the
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  Speaker 2: issues that come with getting married very, very early from
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  Speaker 2: being like raised in a very religious, conservative environment. area
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  Speaker 2: and also like in, you know, each individual family. I
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  Speaker 2: think the issues that come up that I see people
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  Speaker 2: talk about a lot online, as far as our religion,
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  Speaker 2: just mainly how young everybody is, how many kids everybody
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  Speaker 2: has and why marriages struggle because nobody knows who they are. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: they don't have an identity outside of a religion or
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  Speaker 2: their marriage. Those are common things. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 2: obviously domestic violence, cheating, lying, like Just like the fighting
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  Speaker 2: is not normal. Like I would say those are the intense.
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  Speaker 2: of what our religion kind of stands for and encourages
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  Speaker 2: and promotes. I think that our religion is really, really
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  Speaker 2: based around family and around building communities. So I think
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  Speaker 2: those words are mentioned a lot on the show. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think that I see those things show up necessarily,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't think that those things make very good TV.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't, I'm trying to boil down the answer
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  Speaker 2: to your question. I think the problems that people are
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  Speaker 2: facing on that show are very common for my religion.
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  Speaker 6: I think that.
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  Speaker 2: The execution of those things is what's missing on the show,
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  Speaker 2: but it's also what makes it interesting and real. Like,
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  Speaker 2: And I, yeah, I also don't think that getting married
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  Speaker 2: young is exclusive to being Mormon or having kids young
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  Speaker 2: is exclusive to, you know, our religion either. So it's
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  Speaker 2: obviously very prevalent and a big part of our culture,
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  Speaker 2: but there are other amazing things. And also I'm 33
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not married. And that's also a very common thing.
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  Speaker 2: Like in our religion, it's just, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Has it affected the church though?
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  Speaker 2: I mean. I mean, it doesn't, no, it doesn't affect
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  Speaker 2: day to day. Like For the average member of the church,
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  Speaker 2: I think when they bring it up outside of Utah,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of a hot button of like, oh, do
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  Speaker 2: you know any people from the show? But in terms
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  Speaker 2: of like what we teach and like how anything is
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  Speaker 2: like approached or spoken about in like church meetings, not
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  Speaker 2: at all. It's exactly the same.
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  Speaker 1: When they initially picked Taylor to be Bachelorette, And coming
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  Speaker 1: off the heels of like so closely to your season,
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  Speaker 1: what were your thoughts, especially since you knew her a
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  Speaker 1: bit personally?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I was excited for Taylor. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 6: Ben knows this. Ashley, you know this. You've been in
• 11:51
  Speaker 6: it for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: It's like such an incredible opportunity, not I think just
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  Speaker 2: to find love, but it's like of self-discovery. And like
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  Speaker 2: being on a TV show, especially being the lead, you
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: find out so many things about yourself that you would
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  Speaker 2: never imagine. find out and you find them out so much.
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  Speaker 2: I have learned so much about myself from that. So
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  Speaker 2: I was excited for Taylor in that way. And she
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  Speaker 2: already was really good TV and really interesting. I think
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  Speaker 2: she's a good person. So I was excited for her.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's disappointing that it got wasted. I think
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  Speaker 2: she wasted it as a bummer.
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  Speaker 4: You mentioned that she's a good person. And I think
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  Speaker 4: that right now is not a narrative that makes the headlines.
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  Speaker 4: Like you said, you always have to look a little
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  Speaker 4: deeper than the headlines. And we only get the spark
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  Speaker 4: notes of controversy and of the things that are coming
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  Speaker 4: up in court hearings. Can you speak a little bit
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  Speaker 4: to what you know about her, kind of how she
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  Speaker 4: is as a person, maybe how she's doing now? Because
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  Speaker 4: recently the headlines were announced that she– failed drug tests.
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  Speaker 4: I don't even know if that's been proven, but it's
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  Speaker 4: allegedly that she failed a drug test, which means her
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  Speaker 4: time with her kids are going to be shortened. And
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  Speaker 4: so I think that we just, and we've talked about
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  Speaker 4: it here, Latia, where it feels like Taylor just isn't
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  Speaker 4: in the place to be a lead of a show
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  Speaker 4: like this with the pressures that it is. And now
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  Speaker 4: that she did it, everything is compounding on her. And I,
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  Speaker 4: I'm a fan. I don't know her. I've met her
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  Speaker 4: in passing, but I am worried about her because I
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  Speaker 4: felt like I was at a pretty stable place when
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  Speaker 4: I was the lead of the show. And it crushed
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  Speaker 4: me at times to where like I was sitting in
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  Speaker 4: my bed being like, I don't know how to take
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  Speaker 4: the next step in life. Not let alone being a dad,
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  Speaker 4: having the kids and having consistent negative things said.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, um, So I don't know Taylor super well,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know enough about her right now to
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  Speaker 2: comment on her state of being. I'm looking at the
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  Speaker 2: same stuff that you're looking at. As far as her
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  Speaker 2: being a good person, I think that just because your
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  Speaker 2: actions don't necessarily match all the time doesn't mean that
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  Speaker 2: it's not true because everybody is imperfect. And so I
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  Speaker 2: would love to just extend the grace to her that
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  Speaker 2: she's a good person doing the best she can. And
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  Speaker 2: I would not wish the scrutiny that she goes through
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  Speaker 2: on anyone. And I don't think, and I think it's
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  Speaker 2: pretty obvious that she's not doing well and she's struggling.
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  Speaker 2: I think she's pretty vocal about that. But I think
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  Speaker 2: that it's exactly what you said. It's compounding pressure over
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  Speaker 2: and over and over again. And coupled with like saying, yes,
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  Speaker 2: like accepting responsibility and making commitments I think that's the
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: part that is such a bummer about it to me
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  Speaker 2: is because, you know, the crew and everybody that works
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  Speaker 2: on bachelor and what everybody puts on hold to make
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  Speaker 2: the show happen. And so I think it's just, and
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  Speaker 2: it's the same thing with secret lives. It's just, you know,
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  Speaker 2: people put everything on hold to make it come together.
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  Speaker 2: And if it all falls apart from one person, I
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  Speaker 2: think that's partly like for secret lives due to poor planning. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I just think there are many people that could lead
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  Speaker 2: the show and, We're focusing on one person who's not
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  Speaker 2: doing well and isn't capable of doing it right now.
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  Speaker 2: And then, obviously, that's the format for Bachelor. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: my advice would be to pick someone who's ready to
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: be a lead. But that's a tough thing to test for,
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: you know?
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  Speaker 1: Did you kind of know going into her Bachelorette season
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  Speaker 1: that it was going to be a slop show and
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: she probably wasn't going to end up with who she picked?
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  Speaker 1: Just based on her status going into it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 2: based on her recent pattern of behavior, it didn't seem
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  Speaker 2: like she was ready to settle down and be married
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  Speaker 2: to one person that wasn't Dakota. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think that's like a hot take either.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, I know.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm just saying knowing personally, like if we were
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  Speaker 1: to go back to last September when she left her filming.
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  Speaker 2: The whole set of Secret Lives is about her and Dakota.
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  Speaker 2: So I think any story of her finding love with
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  Speaker 2: someone else was a bit of a stretch.
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  Speaker 6: And putting.
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  Speaker 2: Faith in something that they hadn't seen anything, like they
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  Speaker 2: hadn't seen any evidence that she could move on from Dakota.
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  Speaker 2: So it was interesting that they picked a show they
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  Speaker 2: put millions of dollars into to get her off of that.
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  Speaker 6: But I mean, she's entertaining TV.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing is at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: is it about her finding love or is it about
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: like creating an interesting season of The Bachelor? And I
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: think it's probably a very interesting season. even if she
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: didn't end up with the guy.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't want to sound like a snot, but
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  Speaker 1: I actually feel like she offended the franchise. And I
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: sound like I'm on my high horse there, being like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm married and have children for the franchise, so I
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  Speaker 1: can say this.
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  Speaker 5: But that's not what I mean. I just mean like, she.
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  Speaker 1: Going into it could have had the greatest of intentions,
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  Speaker 1: even though everything was a little sloppy. The fact that
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  Speaker 1: she got home and then cheated on the guy willy
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: nilly with not one, but possibly two guys. And then said,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: I'll just have my lawyer break up with him.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: Like just a little bit offended.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: I hate to be the guy she was engaged to
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: watching that scene for sure. Yeah. That it doesn't feel
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: good at all.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: Well, And it's, I mean, even from my own experience
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: and Latia, I don't, we'll get into your season and
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: grant here in a second. I have a lot of
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: curiosity surrounding that, but you know, obviously that relationship for
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: me didn't work, but it was like very hard that
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: it didn't work at the time. Like it was very
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: real to me. And it was.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Didn't you want.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: It to work?
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: Like you wanted it.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: You're like this great for a multitude of reasons because like,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: everyone's relying on it, the fan base, whatever, but also
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: you have real feelings for that person. You've grown close
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: to them and it's such a special, unique experience. Like
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: how great would this be? And I think every relationship
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: anyone ever has, they're like, wouldn't that be great if
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: I didn't have to date ever again? And it's just
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: you and me. But yeah, no, that was not present.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: I'm actually surprised too, with how like pop culture moves today,
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: that there hasn't been more of an uproar that, Hey, show,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: that is about love. You chose somebody that you knew
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: was not willing to go through this process looking for love.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: Like you not only crossed the fourth wall there, you
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: put somebody up that was not ready.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: It's not just Taylor's fault there.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: No, the show said yes to it. And it was
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: because she makes good TV.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: And it was because Taylor gave them exactly more of what,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: she does on the other show that they love so
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: i i and these people make tv for a living
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: so not i mean i'm not coming for anyone specific
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: but the writing was on the wall i don't think
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: anyone's shocked that it crashed and burns it's just unfortunate
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: that it was.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Such a burn yeah and it's sad i mean it
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: is like you said yeah i mean i think it's
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: been our sentiment You know, we want Taylor to be
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: well just as a human from what we know. But goodness,
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: there's kids involved. And when there's kids involved, I think
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: it's just all of a sudden becomes elevated. And then,
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: you know, lives are being affected and passed around and
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: changed because of the behaviors of adults. Speaking of behaviors
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: of adults and speaking of people ready to find love,
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: Grant was the lead of your season.
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: So true. Yeah.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: Recently, you and Grant have had an interaction on social media.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: We had Julianne on the show months ago when she
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: kind of announced her new boyfriend.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: It was interesting. She made it seem like they were married,
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: but they definitely weren't.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: No, no. At the time, her boyfriend, we were like,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: you're definitely married. And she kind of like hinted at
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: maybe we are, but they're not. She felt for Grant,
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: which I think, goodness, if I had a serious relationship
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: with somebody And somebody interviewed them afterwards and they're like,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: I want Ben to be okay because I feel for him.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Like he's missing the mark here in life. I would
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: listen to that and feel so small and so bad.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: What's your sentiment towards Grant now? I think would be
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: the best way to summarize all that I just said
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: was when you think about Grant Ellis and your time
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: on the show and how he's out there talking to people,
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: what's your feelings towards the man?
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: Oh, I'm rooting for him.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Goodness gracious no I'm I I'm being facetious just because
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: of what you just said but yeah I think that
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: um he's learning he's doing his best and I think
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: that he's a good guy and you know he doesn't
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: always deliver everything that he wants to say in the
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: way that would work best for him or for anyone
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: else I think he just is figuring it out just
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: like we all are and I definitely just like you
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: know put my head in my hands a little bit
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: sometimes when I see his stuff but it's like I
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: mean yeah will you ask me the question again sorry
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I'm like so I actually have so many thoughts about
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: it I'm like what exactly was the question because I'm
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: like said Juliana and then I'm like I can comment
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: on her thing I can comment on Grant's thing I
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: just think Um, he's a good guy.
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: Um, bless his heart.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: And like, we're, it's all, it's all good. Like it's all,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: and that's, it's going to make him feel small too,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: but that's honestly how I feel. Like it's not, and
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I don't mean it in any kind of like passive
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: aggressive patronizing way. I like, that's, I mean, authentically how
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I feel. He says things that piss me off still online.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: He says things about my family, says things about me.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: But I don't think that he means anything by it.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of times he just kind of
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: wants to generate a little bit of buzz and attention
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: or it's just generally his feelings and he doesn't care
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: to filter them.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: But isn't the pursuit of garnering attention and saying things
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: that are out there or just like that make you
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: put your heads in their hands, isn't that behavior that
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: you say, hey, I would like you to stop it?
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: Oh, I have.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: I think his first message to me was just basically
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: like mending fences. And that was like a few months ago.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: He talked about it on a different podcast.
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: Someone sent me a clip.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I think it was on Rachel and Charity's podcast. And
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: he just reached out to me and said, hey, sorry
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: for how everything went down and hope you're doing well.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Sorry about everything I said about Mormons and your family.
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: And I just said, no worries.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Like, he had said something that was offensive a few
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: days before he wrote that message. I was like, it's mess.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: It's stuff like this that keeps happening is that is
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: what makes me mad. But if you can, you know,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: stay in line, we're all good. Okay.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: Well, we got to get into the hairy part.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Your cousin, your cousin, Amber ends up winning.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: Harry Josie season of marry Harry. Let's marry Harry, which.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Is funny about that is that they, so two of
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: the bachelor producers had reached out to go on Harry's show.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: They wanted you to go on Harry's show because bachelor
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: production was heavily involved in creating this show.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Some of the producers, some of the producers, uh, so
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: like some of the crew that were on bachelor, uh,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: were on, um, let's marry Harry. And so some of the,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: during the casting process, one of them had reached out
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: and had been like, he's serious. Harry's serious about getting married,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: but you're the girl, you're the serious girl. You're the
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: serious about marriage girl. Um, I didn't buy it, but
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I was like, my cousin is in the casting process.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: And I think she actually like personality wise would actually
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: like be a good fit. Okay.
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: Then she made it on. And, um, And then they
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: got married.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: Isn't that so nuts?
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: What are the odds?
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: So did they get married? Just tell us cousin to cousin.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I was at the wedding. I have the, like, I
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: have a video of their vows on, on my phone.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: So like, to me, it was, it was real.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: But it wasn't civil. Like it, it was like a,
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: a ceremony, but it wasn't like legally.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Apparently they didn't file it. Like you can take the
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: license and then something like that. But I, yeah, I
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: don't know. I, I guess it wasn't real because they
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: didn't ever file it, but it wasn't anything from, it
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: seemed real from where I was sitting.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: But did she sign a piece of paper?
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Supposedly when I talked to her, she was saying
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: that the show told her, hey, if we file it,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: it becomes public. And that is true. So like, maybe
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: that was their out the whole time. If we file
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: the paperwork, it becomes public. And so people would know
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: who he chooses and we want to file it after
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: the show airs. but in her mind, she was married
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: to Harry.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: She didn't have possession of that certificate. So in her mind,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: she had signed it and taken it away. And the
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: show is called let's marry Harry. So she's like, I mean,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: you told me that I was married. You put me
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: in a wedding dress and I said, like, you know.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Where have we gotten to guys as a world where
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: we're now making a joke of the sacred, uh, vows
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: of marriage and commitment to marriage to where we're like
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: yeah that wasn't actually real we just threw you in
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: a dress had you share share these things and then
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: it's not actually a marriage.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Very quick baby to me because i think the show
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: would have been just as interesting if it wasn't ending
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: in a marriage.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah they didn't need to do marriage.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Is a little bit of a reach i don't think
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: like people are gonna watch girls fight over a man
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: whether they're getting married at the end or not yeah.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: So then after this finale and she was all upset
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: and just days later talks to Ben and is obviously upset.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Then Grant goes on line somewhere and says that your
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: cousin ended up pulling similar moves as you after your finale?
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: Tell us about it.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Well, he said I was like coaching. He's like, oh,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I could tell that you coached her.
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: Because I was having flashbacks. I was like, okay.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I don't know. Like, I'm like, it's just
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: like him making it about himself and commenting on it.
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: And it's okay.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you both got embarrassed by girls that you
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: were mean to.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: Like, it's true.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: That is something that you can connect on. I think
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: it's like silly. We didn't coach. Amber and I are
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: very different people. And we have very different experiences with
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: different men. So, yeah. I was very, I encouraged her
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: to definitely say everything that she wanted to say and
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: get it all out there. But I wasn't coaching her.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: And also I'm like, you guys saw her. You think
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: that girl could be coached?
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: That's what I mean. Like in those moments, no shot.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: Those moments are authentic. Yeah. So then you also wrote
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: back to him saying something like, yeah, la la la la,
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: don't delete this the way you usually do. Does he
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: like to delete things on Instagram when he gets schooled?
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: He'll like leave a comment and then delete it. He
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: did it on, he does it on Chase's videos sometimes
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: where he'll like leave a comment and then delete it
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: and then leave a different one. And so I was
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: just teasing him because I knew he was going to
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: have second thoughts.
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: Stand on it, bud. Say it with your chest.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: You know, I, being going through this process myself. And
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: I had, I think I would argue had the best
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: cast of women of all time. I just, I'm, I
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: think they're awesome. I had a great group. Um, but there,
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, I really wanted them to be like, Hey,
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: at least I'm glad I came. Like, he's, he's not
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: my guy. He's a little weird, but like, I'm least
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: like gave it a good shot and he, you know,
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: it didn't work out. You get a pretty good picture
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: of what women after the show you could, um, like
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: you wouldn't want to mess with. Like, not that I
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: mess with any of them. I was very like excited
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: about all the women I had. There was nobody that
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: was like, Hey, they, they are this or they are
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: that like none of that. There's no hard feelings, right?
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Like Jojo, incredible person had no hard feelings. And she
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: was like, you know, sad for two months and then
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: got married, you would definitely be somebody I would never
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: mess with. Like I would a hundred percent be like, Hey, uh, yeah,
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: she like yelled at me at the final thing. And
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: that got a little messy. I'm not saying a word
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: about that girl. Like she will crush me if I like,
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: so why is he like, how does he like that
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: takes some, that takes some guts. It feels like for him. Yeah,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, stupidity.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: One of the two, maybe a good mix of both.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Who knows? I think that like it's also, though, at
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, like I'm very honest and direct,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: but it's not much deeper than that. Like, I'll tell
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: you exactly what I think you need to hear in
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: whatever moment. But after that, it's like, I'm not holding grudges.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing big vendettas. And he, I think knows that.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: So when he steps out of line, I'm happy to
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: just invite him back where, you know, we can all
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: be friends again. Um, but in, you know, he will
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: step back out and then he just gets reminded, I guess.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned before your podcast, uh, with Chase, you
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: mentioned Chase and he was your co-host on your podcast.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: What's up with the podcast? We haven't seen anything come out.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: No, I know the lovely lawyers at, um, ABC and
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Warner Brothers let us know that they were not excited
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: about our podcast and invited us to stop making episodes.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: Invited us to stop. This is why we don't mess
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: with Latia. She's going to be amazing like that.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so good.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: And just to let the audience know, if they didn't know, um,
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: your podcast with Chase, he's also from house, um, Mormon wives. Sorry.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: I always like to call it Mormon. Mormon wives. Um,
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: and it was, it was going to be recapping those episodes, right?
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was just like a little bit of advice,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: a little bit of pop culture discussion.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: You still under contract with ABC though. And Warner.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not under contract anymore.
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: Um, So technically we could.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Maybe. Maybe we will.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Ashley, Latia, I apologize for doing this like you're not here.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: I'm sitting here going, how in the world was she
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: not our bachelorette?
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: I know. You would have been unbelievable.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: Like, was that ever even a thought, Latia?
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: I went to L.A.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: I met with her.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Like, I mean, along with, you know. a dozen of
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: the other finest candidates that they could muster up.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: But you know what the brutal truth of it is.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: It's that his season didn't do well enough. So you
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: weren't big enough.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I think like the past, like five seasons didn't.
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: Do well enough.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, really besides Joey's, you know?
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: Joey's season was a diamond in the rough over the
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: past few years.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: If I was your interviewer, I'd say, Latia, do you
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: want to meet somebody? Would be my first question for
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: you if you're going to be The Bachelorette. Do you
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: want to find love?
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Of course I do.
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: I love love.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: And then my next question for you would be, and
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: I'm asking this genuinely, is are you single?
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: I'm so single.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. Why?
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: Like, I don't get that. Like, how... How have you
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: gotten off of all these dating shows? You've put out
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: to the world, hey, I want to meet someone. Well,
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: it's only been the one. She's only been on one
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: dating show. I guess one show, yes. But you've put
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: out to the world now, hey, I want to meet somebody.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: I'm open to it. And nobody has came through into
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: your life.
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: It keeps me up at night, Ben.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: I wish I knew.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Maybe I need to be less available. Maybe I need
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: to say I'm not looking for love, and then it will.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: magically materialize. I don't know. I don't know.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: On Mormon wives, they make it seem like there's a
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: pretty small dating pool in Utah is, does it feel small?
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Yes. A hundred percent. I don't really date a ton
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: in Utah. I think I, I mostly date people out
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: of state. Yeah. Yeah.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Are people asking you out on dates?
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: They do sometimes. And it's, Awesome.
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: I love it when they do that.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: But you're like, you're not taking them up on it
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: or do you?
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm going. Oh yeah. I'm going on dates. I
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: just think it just takes a lot, you know, to
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: be special and be in a relationship.
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: Like it takes a lot.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: If I can do it, you can do it.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Same.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: That's what I think.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: That's what I think.
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: It's not hard. If Ben can do it, I can
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: do it.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: No, let's see it. You are just a genius. You're
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: a diamond.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't want to keep saying diamond in the rough,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: but like you would have been a wonderful lead in
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: every single way. You check all the boxes. And oh
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: my gosh, it's your problem is that there's not enough
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: guys that match your quality.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good reason.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sticking with that.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Okay. That's my reason.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: I think that's when you go to bed tonight, Latia,
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: and you lay your head on your pillow. You remember
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: those words. that Ashley just shared and spoke over you,
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: is that there's just not enough guys that match your quality.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: But there are those guys. There are.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Maybe I need to adjust my quality then, huh?
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: No, you just have to find the few out there. Somehow,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: you know what? You know, oh, question. So, did you
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: see how dominant.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: That trailer, that tease for Chris Harrison's new show is? Yes,
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: a lot of people said that. It looks like I
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: was so proud of them for putting it together.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: He's cute.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: And, you know, he's Christian.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: It's more about like old school marriage values or trying
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: to bring it back to like what the master may
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: have been 20 something years ago.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: What if you were the lead of that 10 years ago? Okay.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: 10 years ago and same 11 years ago. So back
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: to what it was 11 years ago. What do you
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: think if they were to ever ask you to be
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: the lead of that show? Because you are, you know,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: you have, you're a woman of faith.
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: Is it a faith-based dating show?
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: It's not 100%, but yes.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Okay. I mean, I'm definitely open for sure. I think
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: I love Chris Harrison. I think that he brought something
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: special and awesome to Bachelor that it has been missing.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Not to say anything wrong against Jesse because I also
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: love Jesse.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: Definitely nothing wrong against Jesse. No, not at all.
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: And it's probably a multitude of things.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: It's not the only change that's been made in 11 years.
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: I would.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to watch it and to like, I'll have
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: a better answer, but of course, a hundred percent.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I'm looking for love. I'm looking for something fun and
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: new opportunities. A hundred percent.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Well, I think what I would envision is the conversation
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: that you and Grant had, I remember at your hometown
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: that like on the surface spoken to your family and
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: your faith traditions and how you guys operate would be
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: a consistent thing throughout the what Chris's new show is doing.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: And so those conversations would not just end after an hour.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: They would, they would exist in entirety through the whole thing.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: And then at the end, you guys could say, yes,
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: I'm into this or I'm not. And that's okay. But
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: you at least know, and it's not like a, all
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: of a sudden you're getting slapped across the face with, Hey,
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: and this is how my family lives. Take it or not.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: You have two hours to decide. And I think that's important,
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: especially in dating. It kind of feels like what dating is.
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: A hundred percent.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I think too, one thing that I'm would be excited about,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: about this show is that because the faith part is
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: kind of addressed in the beginning, that that's part of
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: what everyone's doing. It wouldn't be this huge anomaly. Like
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: it was like, I feel like my entire arc was like,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: She's great, but she's Mormon. Everybody like be careful because
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: she's crazy. Like, so I think that getting that kind
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: of like novelty out of the way and just being like,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I love God. Crazy, I know. But if we can
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: also move past that, I'm a person with a lot
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: of other things that are interesting and unique about me.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: So I think that would be something fun. And I
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: don't only date Mormon guys. That's the other thing that
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: I always keep saying. So I would be interested and
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: excited to meet. Guys from different places and different backgrounds
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: with different beliefs.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: Guys not to, you know, make fun.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: But do we think that ABC may have invited The
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Vow to stop promoting that teaser?
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Yes, I 100% think they've invited The Vow to stop.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: And I don't think Fox is going to respond immediately.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: I'm like, no.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: And if I'm them, I'm like, way to kick us
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: when we're down. Literally, like he's been waiting for this.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: It's like at their lowest moment comes out with an
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: awesome show. Yeah.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: Somehow Chris Harrison has the perfect timing yet again to say, hey,
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: we're just going to film this show, have it in
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: the back pocket. And then right when The Bachelor has
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: not aired. For a year.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: What's that?
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Everybody misses old bachelor and we don't have a season.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: I know. Hi guys.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: It was a little bit of a karmic. Hello.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Goodness gracious. It's hilarious. And he knows what he's doing.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: He does. He's good at it. Latia, as we close
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: up here, we really did mean it. And I know
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: that grant season did what it did and, I know
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: Let's Marry Harry did what it did, and I know
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: the headlines of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives do what
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: they do. But for you personally, for people that just
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: want to engage in your life and celebrate you and
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: support you, how can they best do that right now?
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: What is going on in your world that you would
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: want to tell everybody out there listening, this is what's
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: going on, this is who I am, and this is
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: where you can help me out?
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: Um, well, I'm Latia. I'm a Pisces.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: You can.
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Um, yeah, I'm still just figuring it all out, but
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I'm definitely open to love. Ask me on a date
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: if you're normal and cool and fun. And that's dangerous.
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: Click my links, you.
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: Know, click the links. That is how you support us.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: That's how you support me.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah all right lucia you've your joy you're a brilliant
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: gem and we love having you here thank you for
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: giving us so much today like you are kind of
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: involved in a lot of things that we talk about
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: here No.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm involved in everything and I gave nothing.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but it's fun to talk to you guys.
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: I always love chatting.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me on.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: We're going to have to find more ways to get
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: you back here because you are good at this.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: We should recap the vow.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: That would be terrific because we would recap the vow
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: with the person that's going to lead the second season
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: of the vow as the first female lead of it
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: and we would have her right here with us, Ashley.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: Latia, don't tease us.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: We would actually love to have you be our third one.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, let's do it.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: Let's book it on the calendar. Hey, Latia, you are great.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: We wish you the best. Keep being you. And we
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: look forward to more updates and more headlines that you
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: are somehow associated with after doing nothing to be associated
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: with them. Hey, this has been the Almost Famous Podcast.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: Until next time, I've been Ben.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: I've been Ashley. See you guys.
• 40:44
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• 40:47
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