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Sandy Hook (Pt. 1) · Conspiracy! The Show

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Speaker 1: Adam, Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy the Show.
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Speaker 3: I'm Adam Todd Brown. It's ten o'clock in the morning.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so early.
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Speaker 3: The conspiracy theorist should not have to have to see
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Speaker 3: the sun like this when it's the beginning of its
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Speaker 3: arc in the sky.
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Speaker 1: No, this isn't what we have aluminum foil over our
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Speaker 1: windows for. Yeah, I mean, god damn sure.
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Speaker 3: We spent almost fourteen dollars CIA proofing the whole apartment,
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Speaker 3: much much to Angie and Winter's chagrin.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, neither of them like it much. But it'll
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Speaker 2: be fine. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it's very early, but at least we're talking
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Speaker 1: about lighthearted subject matter.
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Speaker 2: Sandy Hook, the Sandy Hook massacre, more like Sandy Hoax. Whoa, yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's what.
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Speaker 1: That's what one of the documentaries about it is called
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Speaker 1: Sandy Hoax.
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Speaker 2: Oh Jesus Christ.
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Speaker 3: Again, the like the pr of these people is always
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Speaker 3: just so terrible.
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Speaker 2: It's just like you have no.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it's catchy because it's so on
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Speaker 3: the nose and bad, but it's just like yesh man.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Uh, the theories around this are there's so many.
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Speaker 1: We're making this a two part episode. Yeah, we're basically
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Speaker 1: there's there's a few articles out there that pose questions
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Speaker 1: about Sandy Hook, and they all come up to around
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Speaker 1: thirty questions.
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Speaker 2: So we're gonna run through those questions.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a really, it's like at fifty cents
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Speaker 3: with the dead kids. You guys, I'm gonna really have
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Speaker 3: to I'm really have to like rock myself out of
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Speaker 3: the chair to get through these rifts today.
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a that's what fuck? She said.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So yeah, we're talking about Sandy Hook. We'll go
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Speaker 1: through the official story first, which isn't really there's not
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Speaker 1: that much to Sandy Hook. Adam Lanza, twenty years old,
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Speaker 1: shows up and just shoots a bunch of kids. It
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Speaker 1: was twenty six kids to adults.
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Speaker 3: There never seems to be like an ideological message.
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Speaker 2: He doesn't really have a manifesto.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we never heard much about motive. Yeah, he killed
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Speaker 1: his mom, so we don't know if it's related to that. Maybe, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but yeah, you never hear much about motive. You just
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Speaker 1: you didn't hear a lot of details about this after
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Speaker 1: it happened, And I think that's what lends people to
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Speaker 1: think it's some sort of false flag operation, because it's
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Speaker 1: still false flag month.
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Speaker 2: It's still false flag months. We're talking false flag operations.
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Speaker 1: Maybe Yeah, so yeah, it was at an elementary school
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Speaker 1: in Newtown, Connecticut ovs. Prior to those shootings, he shot
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Speaker 1: and killed his mother at their home. As authorities arrived,
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Speaker 1: he committed suicide by shooting himself in the head. That
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Speaker 1: part I forgot somehow. I was always like, where's his
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Speaker 1: trial and we're talking about this off area.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Iam just like, well, fucking why haven't we
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Speaker 3: done something about this?
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Speaker 1: And now that explains it. Yeah, itself in the head.
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Speaker 2: That is clean as a clean. That clears that right
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Speaker 2: up for me. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It was the deadliest mass shooting at a high school
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Speaker 1: or grade school in the US, fourth deadliest mass shooting overall.
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Speaker 1: I wonder if it's still fourth after because one characteristic
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Speaker 1: of Sandy Hook is especially the conspiracy part. All the
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Speaker 1: information comes from the first day. Yeah, and people just
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Speaker 1: formed their conspiracies around that and then never followed up.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and so yeah, I don't I don't know
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Speaker 1: if this has been just like an.
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Speaker 2: Army of little four chan elves that are like, why
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Speaker 2: are the tarps like that?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what is the deadliest is that
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Speaker 3: is it?
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Speaker 2: Is it pulse or is it a is Vegas?
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Speaker 1: Probably Vegas? I think Vegas now, yeah, but I don't
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Speaker 1: know when this website when the yeah.
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Speaker 2: When this article is written.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean if there, if you did go
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Speaker 3: back and update that, like you know, statistic you would
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Speaker 3: that would be like a full time job for that
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Speaker 3: editor to just go back and just reclbrate shooting statistics.
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Speaker 3: This one shooting just intutally before we kind of get
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Speaker 3: into it, this one never made sense to me as
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Speaker 3: a false flag. I mean the my Irish tour guide
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Speaker 3: that I think I talked about on the last episode
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Speaker 3: was like it's Obama getting to get to take your
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Speaker 3: guns away or whatever.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you got Vegas and.
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Speaker 3: It's like, well, if the Trumpet minister it was gonna
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Speaker 3: do a false flag, it would have goten a Muslim
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Speaker 3: guy to do it to justify the travel band or whatever.
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Speaker 3: And it's just like this just kind of seems to
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Speaker 3: happen sometimes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing.
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Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing against the idea that this
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Speaker 1: might be a false flag operation. Is nothing came of it? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's not like they took our guns. It's not like,
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Speaker 1: I mean they this.
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Speaker 3: Is a lot of work to do to be like, oops,
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Speaker 3: they still got guns.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there was no.
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Speaker 1: That's the thing with a false flag operation, there has
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Speaker 1: to be that payoff, and we don't really see that
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Speaker 1: with this. Yeah, but we'll go through the specifics, all
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Speaker 1: you crazy motherfuckers out there.
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Speaker 2: Things.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that is that was almost more while it's
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Speaker 3: just like Congress can be so gridlock that even kids
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Speaker 3: getting shot can do nothing, and they're just like, we
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Speaker 3: thought for sure this was gonna be the thing. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's probably that that could be. I mean, yeah, I
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Speaker 3: don't I don't really buy it, but I mean it was,
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Speaker 3: that would be kind of amazing.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure it was still a Republican controlled House and Senate. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: for most of the time under Obama, right, I think
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Speaker 1: except for the first two years. Yeah, yeah, because I
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Speaker 1: mean he was black. So they're not Republicans aren't gonna Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they're not gonna give up both houses that easy. Uh.
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Speaker 1: So let's go through. There's a an article. There's a
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Speaker 1: few different articles. The one we're gonna be working from
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Speaker 1: today is from the always reputable freedom hyphen articles dot
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Speaker 1: Tools for Freedom, dot com.
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Speaker 2: Slash store, dot fuck.
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Speaker 1: And the article is called Sandy Hook third Anniversary hoodwinked.
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Speaker 2: How clever. It's like, if you're gonna when you're choosing a.
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Speaker 3: Verb for the title of your all these dead kids
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Speaker 3: were fucking killed for a lie article, maybe don't go
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Speaker 3: so whimsical and old timey.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really weird choice. Yeah, it's like.
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Speaker 3: How nineteen fifties the Joker would describe what he did
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Speaker 3: to Batman, you know, just like maybe, uh, just a.
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Speaker 1: It seems that there's something about conspiracy theorists. They love puns, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: a little bit. They can line up a pun where
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Speaker 1: they're just like.
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Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia bamboozled the CIA to do nine to eleven,
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Speaker 3: just like okay, or they just that one I believe trick.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I mean, but yeah and this one. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Sandy Hoax is the other thing you see all the time.
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Speaker 1: There's a documentary called Sandy Hoax. So we're going to
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Speaker 1: go through the thirty three questions people have about Sandy Hook,
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Speaker 1: methodically debunking each one.
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Speaker 2: Along the way.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because this is why I don't think either of
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Speaker 1: us went into this thinking, oh, yeah, this might be
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Speaker 1: a false flag.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
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Speaker 3: I will also full disclosure to say that I didn't
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Speaker 3: want to think it was a false flag.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
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Speaker 1: You don't want to believe your government would kill a
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Speaker 1: bunch of children.
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Speaker 3: You want to think that they're thens yep, that this
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Speaker 3: is like just too obvious and evil, you know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. So let's go through the first question
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Speaker 1: they have. Why was a Facebook web page for the
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Speaker 1: alleged alleged dead teacher Victoria Soto of Sandy Hook Elementary
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Speaker 1: School posted.
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Speaker 2: Before the event occurred.
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Speaker 1: That does seem weird, And what they're saying is basically
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Speaker 1: on when did this shooting happened? December fourteenth, So this
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Speaker 1: theory basically says on December tenth, a memorial page for
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Speaker 1: Victoria Soto went up.
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Speaker 2: And on paper, that sounds that sounds bad, It does
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Speaker 2: sound creepy.
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Speaker 1: But but the thing about Facebook pages is that date
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Speaker 1: they're created, that doesn't mean that's what it was called
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Speaker 1: on that day. This basically was just a person who
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Speaker 1: had a spare Facebook page around and changed the name. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: which that when you change the name on a Facebook
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Speaker 1: page without changing the URL. It just it changes everything
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Speaker 1: and it looks like it was created in the past.
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Speaker 1: You like, take out edits because if it was called
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Speaker 1: like Will Smith fan page before, Yeah, and you change
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Speaker 1: it to that, you're not going to want to leave
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Speaker 1: the traces that, Oh we just repurposed our Will Smith
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Speaker 1: fan page into a memorial page for a dead Sandy
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Speaker 1: Hook teacher.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you go delete all the summertime the posts and.
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Speaker 2: I would leave those. Summertime was the jam.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So number two question, why was the United Wait
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Speaker 1: charity web page for Sandy Hook posted before the event occurred.
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Speaker 1: There's a really great Salon dot com article that debunks
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Speaker 1: some of these questions, and this is actually a really
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Speaker 1: common glitch for Google when you do date restricted searches.
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Speaker 1: The Salon dot com article shows a bunch of examples.
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Speaker 1: One of them they show there's a Fox News story
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Speaker 1: on the Sandy Hook shooting that Google says is from
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Speaker 1: October first, nineteen eighty.
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Speaker 3: Three, which is wonderful. Yeah, that's way back there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, if conservatives knew way back then that Sandy
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Speaker 1: Hook was gonna happen, they should have fucking done something.
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Speaker 3: Well, first, of all that they would have learned that
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Speaker 3: there was going to be a black president and they
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Speaker 3: would have gone def con one on that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that probably changed everything there. Yeah, all plans off
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Speaker 1: the table. So that's that's the second question. And the
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Speaker 1: third one is kind of along the same lines. It's
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Speaker 1: never been really addressed, but I do have an answer
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Speaker 1: for it. The third ques question, how did the Arlington
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Speaker 1: Red Devils, which is a school in Ohio? How did
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Speaker 1: the Arlington Red Devil's website post the book talking with
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Speaker 1: children students about the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting on twelve ten,
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Speaker 1: twenty twelve, which was contained in the page URL four
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Speaker 1: days before the event occurred. If this were some kind
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Speaker 1: of technical glitch, then how did Google's bots manage to
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Speaker 1: record a pat cashed page for twelve thirteen, twenty twelve,
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Speaker 1: still one day before the Sandy Hook shooting happened?
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Speaker 2: Why? That was my record? Scratch this one.
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Speaker 1: I didn't find anything debunking it, but I think I
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Speaker 1: know the story here. Okay, with any CMS, any content
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Speaker 1: management system WordPress, any of those that you upload articles to,
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Speaker 1: you can manipulate that posted date. Yeah, and there's reasons
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Speaker 1: why you would want to do it. My guess here
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Speaker 1: is they wanted this on their page for search reasons,
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Speaker 1: so people could search it. But it's also probably the
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Speaker 1: kind of thing where you don't want it to be your.
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Speaker 2: First blog post. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so.
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Speaker 1: In that case you would backdate it, so it buries
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Speaker 1: it a couple of days back on the page. Definitely,
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Speaker 1: people can still find it, and I'm sure there's probably
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Speaker 1: search result benefits to being one of the earliest to
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Speaker 1: go up, so you might, yeah, you might, you might
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Speaker 1: for that reason.
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Speaker 3: And then you know, maybe some of some of some
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Speaker 3: of this like little like you know, technical uh fucking
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Speaker 3: labeling issues like fuck with the cache system yeah on Google.
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Speaker 3: So that seems fairly uh yeah. And again if there's
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Speaker 3: if if you're gonna convince me that something is a
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Speaker 3: false flag, I don't like article dating issues is like
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Speaker 3: not not enough.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is one where it seems like they have
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Speaker 1: a really like they have like a wealth of evidence,
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Speaker 1: and then when you start getting into it, it's like
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Speaker 1: there's an explanation for fucking everything. Yeah, which is comforting
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Speaker 1: because oh yeah, I'm fine know when the grays are
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Speaker 1: running the earth and that we made a deal with
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Speaker 1: him in the seventies.
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Speaker 3: But I'm not fine with this. No, yeah, this is
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Speaker 3: this would be bad.
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Speaker 2: It is a lot. It's it's it's a lot. I
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Speaker 2: mean on the one end, I mean I.
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Speaker 3: Can walk around believing aliens are real, which I do,
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Speaker 3: but walking around just like oh Man, Obama really didn't
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Speaker 3: want us to have those guns.
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Speaker 2: He really didn't know oh Man.
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Speaker 1: On the one hand, though, if this was a false
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Speaker 1: flag operation, one of the ways people describe it, there
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Speaker 1: are no dead kids, so that would be cool. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that part would be if they just pretended to kill kids.
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Speaker 1: But I don't think that's what happened.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, cool, because I like, I've I I have a
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Speaker 3: friend from from Newtown and it just he's just like.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're there, certainly were it was the whole thing. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: My I dated a girl once whose friend took the
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Speaker 1: principal job at Sandy Hook once they demolished it and
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Speaker 1: rebuilt it.
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Speaker 3: Oh really, Yeah that would be intense. Yeah, that's those
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Speaker 3: are a fuck has some big shoes to fill.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: It's like a comedy club in Arizona where the manager
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Speaker 3: killed himself and then they had like reopened or whatever.
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Speaker 3: And I worked two years later and They're just like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: that was in that She's just like the new manage
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Speaker 3: and I'm just.
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Speaker 2: Like, did she kill herself at the club? The manager? No,
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Speaker 2: I think it was at a motelity room. Wow, that
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Speaker 2: would have been dope.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, sorry about that nameless comedy club. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: I just remember thinking, like, what a fucking to be. Like,
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Speaker 3: all right, team, good to see everybody again. Yeah, so
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Speaker 3: doors open six point thirty. We're gonna try to have
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Speaker 3: the room reset last headliner to keep the time tight.
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Speaker 3: One thing, make sure those apron strings were tied. I mean,
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Speaker 3: it is part of it, and it's just like.
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Speaker 2: Just that would be so fucking grim. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Question number four, This one is stupid. How did John Trentacosta,
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Speaker 1: whose house was next to the lands Is with a
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Speaker 1: lot of activity occurring there at the time, who was
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Speaker 1: CEO of the local Newtown Bank, start a victims fund
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Speaker 1: on the same day so quickly after the event, after receiving,
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Speaker 1: in his words, countless request to do so. Also, is
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Speaker 1: it just a coincidence that Trenacosta was also a member
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Speaker 1: of a new council of the New York Federal Reserve,
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Speaker 1: The Community Depository Institution's Advisory council. Well for that last question, yeah, probably, Yeah, yeah, definitely.
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Speaker 3: That's one of these things where a committee or something
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Speaker 3: has so many words in it it's just amounts to
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Speaker 3: meaning nothing. Yeah, Community Depository, Institution advisory. What the fucking
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Speaker 3: shit is that.
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Speaker 2: Just the New York Federal Reserve, not the whole shebang. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like, I don't how did this move
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Speaker 3: the needle on the global economy? How did this help you,
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Speaker 3: like change like the the return rates of a CD
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Speaker 3: or whatever the fuck it is.
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Speaker 1: And that guy obviously knows a thing or two about
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Speaker 1: handling and distributing money. Yeah, so in a situation like this,
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Speaker 1: he's probably the person you're gonna turn to in the
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Speaker 1: community to collect all the donations. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I imagine if a bunch of kids get shot, you
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Speaker 3: act pretty fast. You're not like, I'll get it done
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Speaker 3: next Monday. You're just like, well, okay, well in the
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Speaker 3: midnight all to get this done. Yeah, there's another for
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Speaker 3: altruistic reasons, just for the good press. But I'll give
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Speaker 3: a shit it fucking happened. Yeah, it's fine.
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Speaker 1: There's another question I think we get to in the
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Speaker 1: second episode that's the exact same thing. It's just someone
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Speaker 1: heard about the tragedy and made a snap decision and
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Speaker 1: people interpreted it as conspiracy theory.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is where this is where we're at
16:21
Speaker 3: with societies, where where when you see any any good deed,
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Speaker 3: you're like, they did that so quickly, they didn't even
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Speaker 3: instagram it.
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Speaker 2: This must have been a conspiracy.
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Speaker 1: So this guy, Yeah, I don't I don't even really
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Speaker 1: get the point of this question.
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Speaker 3: They're just they want to because you see thirty three
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Speaker 3: questions and you're like, fuck not all thirty three of
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Speaker 3: them are bullshit, you know, and you kind of scam
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Speaker 3: scam scam, and you're like, yeah, I don't know, I'm tired.
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Speaker 3: I guess I guess there was a fucking I guess
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Speaker 3: they did kill kids to try to unsuccessfully take our guns.
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Speaker 3: It's just it's just the whole thing. It's like, you
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Speaker 3: bobar people with enough shit, you exhaust their critical thinking
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Speaker 3: and annihilate the truth. This is like any kind of
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Speaker 3: propaganda strategy. Yeah, thanksfully, that's where you have your loyal,
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Speaker 3: very incoherent, tired hosts exactly debunk them one by one
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Speaker 3: for you.
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Speaker 2: We are here to save you, America.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Question number five according to various researchers, why was
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Speaker 1: the Newtown community seated with new families in the years
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Speaker 1: leading up to the event. One thing that is weird
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Speaker 1: is all the parents of kids who were killed in
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Speaker 1: Newtown had just moved there, like within that year.
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Speaker 2: Interesting.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that part's interesting. But we watched a documentary
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Speaker 1: for this also. I don't know if you watched it all.
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Speaker 1: You didn't need to. After I got through it, I
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Speaker 1: honestly felt bad making you watch it. Yeah, but it
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Speaker 1: was this documentary by a woman named Sophia Smallstorm, and
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Speaker 1: she's one of the leading Sandy Hook conspiracy theorists.
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Speaker 2: And she points out in this not one of the
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Speaker 2: leading video editors.
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Speaker 3: I'll say that absolutely not a real aesthetically upsetting peace
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Speaker 3: the media.
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Speaker 1: She struggles with the video works. You get an editor
18:05
Speaker 1: on that. I could probably edit up a better Sandy Hook.
18:08
Speaker 1: We should edit our own conspiracy documentary together. I still
18:12
Speaker 1: have to spread our own conspiracy.
18:14
Speaker 2: I know. Yeah.
18:15
Speaker 3: I just really think, like, do you ever see someone
18:17
Speaker 3: doing something that you have no idea how to do?
18:20
Speaker 3: But you're like, I, if you gave me three days,
18:23
Speaker 3: I could be so much better at this than you.
18:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I feel about video editing.
18:26
Speaker 3: I know, like vaguely how to do it, and I like,
18:29
Speaker 3: I looked at it and I'm like, I can kind
18:30
Speaker 3: of understand.
18:31
Speaker 2: I'm just like, do I.
18:31
Speaker 3: See these I'm just like, I I know I would
18:34
Speaker 3: be better than you with this.
18:36
Speaker 2: This is this cannot possibly be this hard.
18:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a thing I'd like to learn, because whenever
18:41
Speaker 1: I have a video edited, the person's like, all right,
18:44
Speaker 1: I'll get it back to you in eight weeks. Oh,
18:46
Speaker 1: like I cannot take that long. I know, I know,
18:48
Speaker 1: rendering is a bitch, but it overnight.
18:51
Speaker 2: Yeah jesus.
18:52
Speaker 1: Uh So the thing she brings up in this documentary
18:57
Speaker 1: is that new Town is con it's part of the
19:01
Speaker 1: Transition Movement. Now I will see that the Transition Movement
19:07
Speaker 1: is a weird fucking thing. It's basically this series of
19:11
Speaker 1: communities around the United States, and if you read their
19:16
Speaker 1: like their motto or their mission statement, it's all really
19:19
Speaker 1: environmental based and like not making an impact on the earth.
19:24
Speaker 1: But it's tied to like the High Faith religion, which
19:30
Speaker 1: I don't even know what they what they do.
19:31
Speaker 2: I've never even heard of that one.
19:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's and all of that's really weird, but
19:36
Speaker 1: also all of that explains why people would be moving
19:39
Speaker 1: to that town free.
19:40
Speaker 2: And there are just places like that. I forget the
19:41
Speaker 2: exact city.
19:42
Speaker 3: There's a city kind of in between where I'm from,
19:44
Speaker 3: the Elan Empire of California and San Diego. I think
19:46
Speaker 3: I think it's referring to Hemmet where people call it
19:49
Speaker 3: the land of the newlywed and the nearly dead, and
19:52
Speaker 3: there are just these kind of towns where it's just like, yeah,
19:55
Speaker 3: it's like if you want to start a family and
19:57
Speaker 3: get a starter home and you know, get a little
19:59
Speaker 3: job or whatever you commute you know, an Horati Dumacula from,
20:02
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, you can get a house for you
20:04
Speaker 3: can put ten thousand dollars down and have a fucking house.
20:07
Speaker 3: And these are just places where you kind of like
20:09
Speaker 3: it's and it's either that or just people who are
20:11
Speaker 3: running out of money or just barely have enough and
20:13
Speaker 3: try to start a life. Like there are just places
20:14
Speaker 3: like that, and it seems like it was one of
20:15
Speaker 3: those towns.
20:16
Speaker 2: Yeah.
20:16
Speaker 1: They mentioned that also in the documentary, that it's a
20:18
Speaker 1: destination town. It's a place where people want to move
20:21
Speaker 1: and want to live. Connecticut has a great fucking school system.
20:25
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and you probably, I mean just from place
20:28
Speaker 1: the wrong bat move into this town for the school system.
20:30
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, yeah, well yeah, look at you look at
20:33
Speaker 1: those fucking even just pictures of the town morning afterwards.
20:36
Speaker 3: You like, that's like it's like a very cute little town.
20:38
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah, and it's just like, okay, what a
20:41
Speaker 3: house is only how much?
20:41
Speaker 2: That's pretty? We could do that, right, Carol? Okay, yeah,
20:44
Speaker 2: it's funny.
20:45
Speaker 3: You know, we've got it. Open up an Amazon warehouse.
20:47
Speaker 3: That's another thing that people do. Who's fucking is that?
20:50
Speaker 3: Did they decide where that Amazon warehouse is going?
20:52
Speaker 2: No?
20:52
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I just know that as I've
20:55
Speaker 3: had a lot of friends work took the one out
20:56
Speaker 3: in uh sam ord Diino. But it's just or wherever
20:58
Speaker 3: whatever and whatever fuck that area. But it's just like
21:02
Speaker 3: that's you know, there's always something like like oh yeah, no,
21:04
Speaker 3: there's just all these jobs that are never gonna go away.
21:06
Speaker 2: Let's go, yeah, exactly, let's go kids. Question number six.
21:12
Speaker 1: According to Wolfgang, how Big was the other big uh
21:17
Speaker 1: vampire that and also he's like the other main Sandy
21:21
Speaker 1: Hook conspiracy theorist. There's Sophia Smallstorm, and Wolfgang how Big.
21:26
Speaker 2: And this is question number six.
21:28
Speaker 1: According to Wolfgang how Big, why were sixteen state troopers
21:31
Speaker 1: pre positioned forty five to sixty minutes before the alleged shooting?
21:35
Speaker 1: Now that's a good question, but I've never found in
21:38
Speaker 1: all the researching I did, I didn't find any corroboration
21:42
Speaker 1: for that, Yeah, to show that there were actually there's
21:46
Speaker 1: no state troopers preposition.
21:47
Speaker 3: There, you know, like helico after news cam screenshots or
21:51
Speaker 3: whatever the fuck?
21:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because like then my question is, well, why were
21:56
Speaker 1: you there forty five to sixty minutes early? Why did
21:58
Speaker 1: you fucking know?
21:59
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, shoot up Sandy Hook, Wolfgang Albig.
22:02
Speaker 3: If your name's like goofy, why don't you take a
22:04
Speaker 3: nom de plume if you're trying to fucking expose the
22:07
Speaker 3: tyrannies of a radical government?
22:09
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that's kind of the one question I
22:12
Speaker 1: couldn't find anything for on either side. I couldn't find
22:15
Speaker 1: anyone else making that argument, and I couldn't find anyone
22:18
Speaker 1: debunking it.
22:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean it's like, if you're claiming it,
22:21
Speaker 3: it's the burden of proof is on you. So yeah,
22:24
Speaker 3: if you just said, this is just a line of
22:26
Speaker 3: text without any kind of picture, fucking police report or anything.
22:30
Speaker 2: It's just like, okay, Yeah.
22:32
Speaker 1: The question number seven, why did the media keep switching
22:36
Speaker 1: its narrative as the story unfolded regarding the actual weapon used.
22:41
Speaker 1: Finally they settled upon a rifle. But how could a
22:44
Speaker 1: rifle kill twenty six people in such quick succession? I
22:47
Speaker 1: have a lot of thoughts on this. Yeah, first of all,
22:50
Speaker 1: the changing stories, that's just going to be the media
22:52
Speaker 1: getting conflicting reports from people.
22:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's a twenty vur newcycle. It's not like, oh, okay,
22:58
Speaker 3: this happened at three pm and you don't hear about
23:00
Speaker 3: it until you know, Dan rather than a six, it's like, uh,
23:04
Speaker 3: fucking I'm on the ground here. I heard somebody say
23:07
Speaker 3: the word shotgun, you know, and it's just like, that's
23:10
Speaker 3: what it is.
23:10
Speaker 1: For a second, and they there are There is video
23:13
Speaker 1: of them pulling a shotgun out of his car, and
23:16
Speaker 1: I would agree that a shotgun couldn't kill that many
23:18
Speaker 1: people in that short amount of time. But he didn't
23:20
Speaker 1: use a shotgun. He took an AR fifteen assault rifle
23:23
Speaker 1: or semi automatic. It's a semi automatic weapon, So you
23:26
Speaker 1: can get a lot of shots off in a short
23:28
Speaker 1: amount of time if you have a lot of clips.
23:30
Speaker 1: And the thing about I always see, like they say,
23:34
Speaker 1: how could a rifle kill twenty six people in such
23:36
Speaker 1: quick succession? I always see the other way it's framed
23:40
Speaker 1: is how could he kill that many frantic kids in
23:43
Speaker 1: that amount of time? And I super disagree with the
23:46
Speaker 1: notion that those kids would have been frantic and running
23:48
Speaker 1: around when this happened. Kids are gonna freeze in a
23:51
Speaker 1: situation like that, oh for sure. Yeah, Like you're you
23:55
Speaker 1: see a look of terror on your teacher's face and
23:58
Speaker 1: you're sitting in your desk, You're just gonna a fucking
24:00
Speaker 1: kind of lock in place.
24:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's your go to, you know, for guidance
24:04
Speaker 2: or whatever.
24:04
Speaker 1: And you know, a kid's fight or flight reflex isn't
24:08
Speaker 1: as advanced as an adult. So I feel like he probably,
24:12
Speaker 1: as opposed to having frantic kids running around, had a
24:14
Speaker 1: bunch of passive victims who are just kind of sitting
24:17
Speaker 1: there looking at him, hoping for the best. So that's
24:21
Speaker 1: how he was able to kill that many people. He
24:22
Speaker 1: was shooting kids. They're dumb, they don't know to run.
24:26
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and it's like you think about it when
24:27
Speaker 3: you got scared as a kid, you just I would
24:29
Speaker 3: just like stand there and piss my pants, you know.
24:31
Speaker 2: Yeah.
24:32
Speaker 1: There was a really good dog that lived across the
24:34
Speaker 1: alley from me for a long time as a kid,
24:36
Speaker 1: but whenever I would go outside, it would come up
24:38
Speaker 1: to the fence and start barking. So I was always
24:40
Speaker 1: scared of it. And then one time I went outside
24:43
Speaker 1: not wearing shoes, by the way, so I couldn't run.
24:46
Speaker 1: I go outside and look in the gates open, and
24:48
Speaker 1: the dog's just running toward me, and I'm like, I'm
24:50
Speaker 1: gonna fucking die right now.
24:52
Speaker 2: And I didn't do shit. I do it there and
24:54
Speaker 2: let it happen.
24:55
Speaker 1: And the dog just came up and knocked me over
24:57
Speaker 1: and started licking my face and shit.
24:59
Speaker 2: So it was fine. But I didn't know to ron.
25:01
Speaker 1: I didn't know to like fucking think to kick the
25:04
Speaker 1: dog in the neck or something.
25:06
Speaker 2: While the way, You're like, do I punch it in
25:08
Speaker 2: a nose? Or is that a shark? Yeah, rub its stomach.
25:12
Speaker 2: You don't know.
25:13
Speaker 1: If you rub a shark's stomach, you'll fucking what if
25:16
Speaker 1: you can get a shark on its back and give
25:18
Speaker 1: it a little belly rub.
25:19
Speaker 2: You're good.
25:20
Speaker 3: You can get away from a shark. I know that
25:21
Speaker 3: if you try it, try it, I will. Don't fucking
25:25
Speaker 3: think I won't. But I learned just through anecdotal data
25:29
Speaker 3: with my buddy Ryan's pug, if you turn a pug
25:31
Speaker 3: upside down, they're just shitty lungs don't get enough oxygen
25:35
Speaker 3: and they calm down. So if his pug was being
25:37
Speaker 3: as bad as you, just pick it up and just
25:38
Speaker 3: you know, invert it and just like you know.
25:40
Speaker 1: I think it's something with how they're bred. They have
25:42
Speaker 1: like bad breathing problems.
25:44
Speaker 3: Oh, they're just like horribly fucking unhappy creatures. It seems like, yeah,
25:48
Speaker 3: they were just put together for our amusement. Yeah yeah, yeah,
25:51
Speaker 3: very miserable lives in general.
25:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, good times, Yeah, so fun, good puppies.
25:57
Speaker 1: Question number eight, If I'd known Actor and Sandy Hook
26:02
Speaker 1: witness Gene Rosen keep changing his story about how he
26:06
Speaker 1: encountered the six kids who allegedly came to him in
26:10
Speaker 1: different interviews. He variously claims he found the kids just
26:13
Speaker 1: after feeding his cats in the loft, just after going
26:16
Speaker 1: to breakfast, and just after coming home. From breakfast. Okay,
26:20
Speaker 1: right off the bat, those three things are not that different. Yeah, yeah,
26:22
Speaker 1: you could do all of that and one fell swoop.
26:25
Speaker 1: His testimony completely conflicts with that of the school bus
26:28
Speaker 1: driver and the official report. There is also a video
26:31
Speaker 1: of him near the firehouse walking around slowly. Whoa plus
26:35
Speaker 1: video of him rehearsing his lines with the cameraman.
26:38
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, if I'm gonna be on camera, and I
26:41
Speaker 3: know that, like in this kind of a high pressure situation. Look,
26:44
Speaker 3: let's say we're right here and then a plane flies
26:48
Speaker 3: into the Bank of America building, you know, and like
26:50
Speaker 3: being we're on the ground or whatever, and some news
26:52
Speaker 3: reporters just like, okay, we're got you guys are gonna
26:54
Speaker 3: be on in five And I'm just like, okay, what
26:55
Speaker 3: if the fuck I might say, ye, he saw the
26:57
Speaker 3: plane and this is terrible and I'm so sorry. Yeah,
26:59
Speaker 3: you know it's the I don't think that's a particularly
27:01
Speaker 3: weird thing. Yeah, I don't think it's signs of a conspiracy.
27:05
Speaker 2: You definitely don't want to misspeak after the horrible a
27:08
Speaker 2: mass shooting.
27:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, otherwise people will turn it into a conspiracy theory.
27:12
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what's frustrating about this is all of
27:15
Speaker 1: this The entirety of this theory is kind of based
27:19
Speaker 1: around people's snap reactions in the first few minutes after
27:24
Speaker 1: what happened. Yeah, like it's all, why are people talking
27:26
Speaker 1: this way? Because a fucking trauma just happened.
27:29
Speaker 3: And like the kind of like you know, inconsistencies of detail.
27:33
Speaker 3: I got robbed in San Francisco. I was opening for
27:37
Speaker 3: another comedian and at this like theater downtown.
27:41
Speaker 2: We had a rental car.
27:42
Speaker 3: He had all this camera cause he had so much
27:44
Speaker 3: camera clipment in this car, like fifteen thousand dollars with
27:46
Speaker 3: this stuff. After the show, we go, we walk down
27:48
Speaker 3: the street, we go to a Diana were hanging out
27:50
Speaker 3: with some of the audience members, some of his friends
27:51
Speaker 3: in town. And we walk back and we see these
27:55
Speaker 3: two guys running up the hill, are like kind of
27:58
Speaker 3: briskly walking up the hill to their car, and they've
28:00
Speaker 3: got suitcases. And I look and I was like, those
28:01
Speaker 3: are our fucking suitcases, ship, you know, And we're like, hey,
28:05
Speaker 3: what the fuck, those are our suitcases? And they start
28:07
Speaker 3: running into the car, right yeah, and uh, and we
28:10
Speaker 3: were like chase, and we're trying to block the car.
28:12
Speaker 2: And one just goes, hey, yo, shoot him, shoot him.
28:14
Speaker 3: And I know this guy doesn't have a gun. We
28:16
Speaker 3: both know this guy doesn't have a gun. But we're
28:17
Speaker 3: just like, okay, you stole the ship. I'm not gonna
28:21
Speaker 3: die over this camera.
28:23
Speaker 2: Go back.
28:23
Speaker 3: The windows are smashed, everything's taken, you know. And uh,
28:27
Speaker 3: the police police come and uh they asked us to
28:31
Speaker 3: give a report and all that, and uh, I'm just
28:33
Speaker 3: like and they're like, who could you get a look
28:35
Speaker 3: at the suspects?
28:35
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, it was a it was
28:37
Speaker 2: it was two black guys. It was uh, it was
28:39
Speaker 2: two and they're kind of both tall and wearing white shirts.
28:42
Speaker 3: And then I realized I was talking to Max and
28:44
Speaker 3: he was just like, no, it was it was a
28:46
Speaker 3: black guy and a white guy.
28:47
Speaker 2: We're just dressed up.
28:48
Speaker 3: And I just I just I feel racist that I
28:51
Speaker 3: remember it as two black guys. It's a pretty stressful,
28:53
Speaker 3: like a couple of forty five seconds. But it's just
28:55
Speaker 3: like I get like that. I was, and I it
28:57
Speaker 3: was kind of a thing because I was like that
28:59
Speaker 3: shit happened to me.
29:00
Speaker 2: I get it. I was just like, oh yeah, And
29:01
Speaker 2: then I thought about it. I was like, it was
29:03
Speaker 2: a black guy in WAG. It was like a very
29:04
Speaker 2: TV interracial gang. And that's kind of cool.
29:07
Speaker 1: That's the kind of thing that if that was a
29:09
Speaker 1: really big crime that caught national attention, you saying that
29:13
Speaker 1: would forever go down in history.
29:15
Speaker 3: Totally that how do they make a transition skinned man?
29:21
Speaker 2: This as soon as he had fled, he changed color
29:24
Speaker 2: like a like an octopus.
29:27
Speaker 1: So that, yeah, that that's I think a lot of
29:30
Speaker 1: what happened with the Sandy Hook conspiracy. People heard shit
29:33
Speaker 1: like that and formed their opinion around it. As for
29:37
Speaker 1: this Rosen guy, first of all, he's not the Gene
29:39
Speaker 1: Rosen that's a member of SAG. That guy is seven
29:42
Speaker 1: years younger than this Gene Rosen.
29:43
Speaker 3: He just had the same name as a dude that
29:46
Speaker 3: was like a featured extra in Law and Order SVU exactly.
29:50
Speaker 1: And uh, there's a Salon dot com article that debunks
29:53
Speaker 1: a lot of these and this is a quote from
29:54
Speaker 1: the that article. Rosen did invite the bus driver inside,
29:58
Speaker 1: and she helped him contact her p parents. An early
30:01
Speaker 1: AP report erroneously reported that he sat with the kids
30:05
Speaker 1: for hours, but he told us that the children were
30:08
Speaker 1: only inside his house for thirty five minutes he did
30:11
Speaker 1: call their parents. Four parents came right away, and Rosen
30:14
Speaker 1: took the remaining two to the fire station. Rosen is
30:17
Speaker 1: not a member of SAG. That's a different gene Rosen,
30:20
Speaker 1: who is seven years younger.
30:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like this story this one, uh question nine
30:27
Speaker 2: also kind of bothers me.
30:28
Speaker 1: How was a skinny, nineteen year old boy with no
30:31
Speaker 1: military training capable of killing twenty six people clean while
30:35
Speaker 1: injuring none and in parenthes he's trained. Military veterans have
30:39
Speaker 1: claimed it was highly unlikely or even impossible for someone
30:42
Speaker 1: with the weight of Adam Lanza to execute that many
30:45
Speaker 1: people in so short a time. He only had like
30:47
Speaker 1: a rifle and two handguns. Yeah, anyone could carry that.
30:51
Speaker 2: Yeah.
30:52
Speaker 3: And it's like, I mean, I'm sure it was. I'm
30:53
Speaker 3: sure he was getting his fucking shrimp dick blown back
30:56
Speaker 3: by the rifle. But it's like, you know, he clearly
30:59
Speaker 3: practiced shooting a little little bit, like yeah, And the.
31:02
Speaker 1: Thing about him being so skinny and oh, a person
31:05
Speaker 1: couldn't carry that many guns. That's always the kind of
31:08
Speaker 1: thing that is inevitably followed up on YouTube by some
31:12
Speaker 1: well meaning gun enthusiast going nah, look and then he
31:15
Speaker 1: pulls like eight ak forty seven Yeah, yeah, yeah, and
31:19
Speaker 1: you're like.
31:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I get it. Yeah he can carry that
31:22
Speaker 2: many guns. Oh dude, Yeah, I love those guys. Yeah,
31:25
Speaker 2: those are the best.
31:26
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, just pulling them out of their fucking armpits.
31:28
Speaker 2: Just guns every.
31:29
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the darreninger in the beard, you know, reaches
31:34
Speaker 3: behind your ear, pulls out a gun like yeah.
31:38
Speaker 1: This next question, this is an interesting one. Why was
31:41
Speaker 1: there no evidence of blood? A total of twenty six
31:45
Speaker 1: fatalities children an adult would produce at least a conservative estimate,
31:49
Speaker 1: twenty gallons of blood.
31:50
Speaker 3: Man, it's such a fucked up thing to like, let's
31:53
Speaker 3: do the blood math. Yeah, just shooting who was running
31:55
Speaker 3: those numbers for this? I mean, it's need to get
31:58
Speaker 3: that specific. Yeah, it's interesting, but I'm so yeah. I mean,
32:00
Speaker 3: I guess you gotta you gotta go over everything. And
32:02
Speaker 3: I don't fault you for looking into it, but it's
32:04
Speaker 3: just like, okay, so that's about It's about a pint
32:07
Speaker 3: per kid, and you're just.
32:08
Speaker 1: Like, fuck.
32:11
Speaker 2: Uh.
32:11
Speaker 1: This would require a concerted blood cleanup. Blood is considered
32:15
Speaker 1: a biohazard in this type of situation. Yeah, when Sophia
32:18
Speaker 1: small storm Mass who did the cleanup. All the departments
32:21
Speaker 1: were ignorant of it and even claimed that no one
32:23
Speaker 1: did the cleanup. Okay, for one thing, I'm assuming when
32:27
Speaker 1: the company who was tapped to do the cleanup was
32:29
Speaker 1: finally picked, I don't think they would have sent a
32:32
Speaker 1: memo around and said, hey, here's the company that's cleaning
32:35
Speaker 1: up the blood. But it did. Actually someone looked into
32:38
Speaker 1: it a little deeper. Clean Harbors Incorporated clean Up the Blood. Okay, America.
32:43
Speaker 1: The name of the company is a boring ass.
32:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know those guys are like, yeah, man,
32:49
Speaker 3: I had like three like decomposing dead guy like old
32:52
Speaker 3: old people. This was an interesting day. Is this a
32:55
Speaker 3: change of pace for us? You know, we got to
32:56
Speaker 3: be on the sunshine at the school and.
32:59
Speaker 1: The thing about no blood evidence and no crime scene photos,
33:02
Speaker 1: which comes up a few different times. Yeah, that actually
33:06
Speaker 1: makes me feel like it's not a false flag operation.
33:09
Speaker 2: Oh, because if.
33:10
Speaker 1: You can fake all of this shit, you can fake
33:12
Speaker 1: pictures of dead kids, so certainly like.
33:14
Speaker 2: They would be able to just whip up some evidence
33:17
Speaker 2: of that.
33:17
Speaker 3: And it's like, what gives the deal? I'm sure there
33:20
Speaker 3: are I'm sure somebody took pictures. I don't think they're
33:22
Speaker 3: in public circulation. It's like the pictures of.
33:24
Speaker 2: Uh, pictures of dead kids I've been lying or whatever.
33:26
Speaker 3: It's like, if you is that not giving him more
33:29
Speaker 3: satisfaction to his legacy, whatever his perverted goals were to
33:33
Speaker 3: have these horrible images that are just circular, you know,
33:35
Speaker 3: And it's just like, yeah, why would you? Yeah, I
33:38
Speaker 3: mean if the family wants to see it, like, yeah,
33:39
Speaker 3: this is I mean, I know it's tough. He's really
33:41
Speaker 3: gone here he is, but it's like that doesn't need
33:43
Speaker 3: to be out there for fortun to photoshop.
33:45
Speaker 1: Right. We didn't see images of dead kids after Oklahoma
33:48
Speaker 1: City either. No, there was a fucking nursery in there. Yeah,
33:51
Speaker 1: some kids died.
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Speaker 2: It's like they're not going to show you. I don't.
33:54
Speaker 1: I actually can't think of any tragedy where really graphic
33:59
Speaker 1: images of victims stick out in my mind.
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Speaker 2: I don't remember.
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Speaker 1: I really, like I remember surveillance footage from Columbine, like
34:06
Speaker 1: when they set the fire and when they're doing the shooting. Yeah,
34:09
Speaker 1: but I don't remember really grizzly crime scene photos from Columbine.
34:13
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it made sure like I would grave,
34:15
Speaker 3: but that's a whole different kind of thing.
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Speaker 1: And that's really that's like a thing that leaked. Yeah, yeah,
34:19
Speaker 1: and anything else. But this like when do you ever
34:22
Speaker 1: see Yeah, it's not really done. No, I mean I guess,
34:26
Speaker 1: I guess the black doll you murder. But any kind
34:28
Speaker 1: of like a mass like terrorist event that's not just
34:31
Speaker 1: some kind of like isolated you know, like yeah, serial
34:34
Speaker 1: killer thing or just killing two three people or whatever,
34:37
Speaker 1: it's like.
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Speaker 2: Even yeah, yeah, we got it.
34:40
Speaker 1: Uh, this is this next question is kind of similar.
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Speaker 1: Where are the alleged six hundred plus children of Sandy
34:47
Speaker 1: Hook Elementary School? Why is there absolutely no photo or
34:51
Speaker 1: video evidence of any dead bodies? Why did coroner and
34:54
Speaker 1: chief medical Examiner Wayne Carver say the following This.
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Speaker 2: Is a quote.
34:58
Speaker 1: Uh, we did not bring the bodies and the families
35:01
Speaker 1: into contact. We took pictures of them, of their facial features.
35:05
Speaker 1: It's easier for the families when you do that. There
35:07
Speaker 1: is a time and place for the up close and
35:09
Speaker 1: personal and the grieving process. But to accomplish this, we
35:12
Speaker 1: thought it would be best to do it this way.
35:15
Speaker 1: And you can control a situation depending on the photographer,
35:18
Speaker 1: and I have very good photographers, so people. This is
35:22
Speaker 1: another one that is very much built on Oh he
35:25
Speaker 1: said that day one and yeah, we're never gonna look
35:29
Speaker 1: into this again.
35:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, this, dude, just again, not this is this is
35:33
Speaker 3: the super Bowl for the blood clean up guys or
35:35
Speaker 3: the yeah, like like Morge Photographer where it's just like, hey, man,
35:39
Speaker 3: I know you're in a small town in Connecticut, but
35:42
Speaker 3: it's just like you're it's you gotta tell that, and
35:44
Speaker 3: he's just like, fucking uh, Yeah, it's tough for people
35:47
Speaker 3: to see dead people, so we we've got to.
35:49
Speaker 2: Take careful pictures of them. And they're like, what are
35:51
Speaker 2: you being careful about?
35:54
Speaker 1: And what they're assuming is because like what he's saying is, no,
35:58
Speaker 1: we didn't let the parents walk into an active crime
36:00
Speaker 1: scene and go look at their dead kids.
36:02
Speaker 2: And why would you.
36:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, every fucking TV show you see where someone dies,
36:08
Speaker 1: the person running up is like, let me see the body,
36:11
Speaker 1: and the police are like, no, stand back. I'm sure
36:14
Speaker 1: it was like that with this also. And he's not
36:17
Speaker 1: saying they're never gonna see their kids. He's just saying,
36:20
Speaker 1: on this day, we didn't let the parents go in
36:22
Speaker 1: and look at pictures of the kids. I'm sure they
36:24
Speaker 1: were reunited at the morgue or at the funeral home. Yeah,
36:28
Speaker 1: Like they didn't just bury these kids at sea. Afterwards,
36:32
Speaker 1: they went back to their parents eventually, and there were
36:34
Speaker 1: funerals and shit. But he says this on day one
36:37
Speaker 1: and people are like, see, it's crazy, so fucking crazy.
36:41
Speaker 1: And as far as the pictures, there are pictures of
36:47
Speaker 1: kids evacuating Sandy Hook.
36:50
Speaker 3: There are tons, and to look at them, they're pretty rough.
36:53
Speaker 2: You don't really want to see him, but yeah.
36:55
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to see six year old
36:57
Speaker 1: screaming in terror as their teachers lead them away from
37:01
Speaker 1: a disaster.
37:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, check it out.
37:03
Speaker 1: But yeah, there are lots of pictures of kids fleeing
37:06
Speaker 1: Sandy Hook.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
37:07
Speaker 1: There's a website called metabunk dot org that has also
37:11
Speaker 1: a really great set of debunking, Like they have a
37:17
Speaker 1: bunch of links to different debunks of these Sandy Hook conspiracies.
37:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then meta metabunk. We'll tell you why Meta
37:26
Speaker 3: Bunk's full of shit.
37:30
Speaker 1: According to the question twelve, we're getting close to the
37:34
Speaker 1: end before we're gonna do two episodes.
37:35
Speaker 2: We already said that.
37:36
Speaker 1: But yeah, according to Wolfgang how Big, why do the
37:39
Speaker 1: record show no social Security numbers for the dead students.
37:43
Speaker 1: Now that would absolutely be some smoking gun shit if
37:46
Speaker 1: it was true. There are social security kids that same
37:50
Speaker 1: website metabunk dot org. They you can see their social
37:56
Speaker 1: security records right on that website.
37:58
Speaker 2: You can.
37:58
Speaker 3: They have to vote, so you can get cast your
38:01
Speaker 3: ballad for Hillary Clinton.
38:03
Speaker 1: They have all of the kids' social security records. The
38:07
Speaker 1: short answer is that when this happened, Wolfgang how Big
38:11
Speaker 1: and his team used one of these those bullshit type
38:15
Speaker 1: anyone's name and find information about them type websites. Yeah, yeah,
38:20
Speaker 1: to find these kids' social security numbers. And it wasn't there.
38:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course not.
38:24
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean this is a nationwide false flag operation.
38:29
Speaker 1: So this metabunk website looked into it further. They actually
38:34
Speaker 1: found the social security records for all these kids.
38:37
Speaker 3: So that's an easy one to answer. Is it is
38:41
Speaker 3: always the funniest with these where it's just.
38:43
Speaker 2: Like, well, why didn't the Yeah they did. Yeah.
38:48
Speaker 1: There's another one coming right after this question, which is
38:52
Speaker 1: question thirteen. According to Wolfgang how Big, why do the
38:56
Speaker 1: records show no report of actual shots fired?
38:59
Speaker 2: This?
38:59
Speaker 1: I could find anything addressing this, but this guy gets
39:02
Speaker 1: that schools are designed to protect you from nuclear war.
39:05
Speaker 1: Yeah right, they are pretty fucking insulated.
39:08
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
39:09
Speaker 1: I don't know the makeup of Sandy Hook, but it
39:11
Speaker 1: doesn't look like the kind of place where the schools
39:13
Speaker 1: are right next to the houses. Like, it's not Manhattan.
39:16
Speaker 1: There's not a school and then a bunch of row
39:19
Speaker 1: houses next to it. It's fucking new Town, Connecticut. And
39:24
Speaker 1: there's a good chance if they were shooting happening in
39:26
Speaker 1: that school, people weren't gonna fucking hear it outside, and
39:29
Speaker 1: the teachers inside were probably trying to protect the kids.
39:33
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean you gotta imagine it's in the
39:34
Speaker 3: middle of the grounds, you know, which is like you
39:36
Speaker 3: got a whole like soccer field and parking lot, and
39:40
Speaker 3: it's you know, three hundred meters from anything. And then
39:43
Speaker 3: you know, I mean this high school, I went to it,
39:44
Speaker 3: just all fucking cinderblocks, and it was Yeah, you couldn't
39:46
Speaker 3: hear shit.
39:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, every school is designed to also act as a
39:51
Speaker 1: fallout shelter. That's a They have to be designed that
39:55
Speaker 1: way because we have to go somewhere in the event
39:58
Speaker 1: of a nuclear war. So yeah, you're not gonna hear
40:01
Speaker 1: shit happening inside the school.
40:03
Speaker 2: I mean, that's my opinion on it.
40:06
Speaker 1: Anyway, find it anywhere, But it seems like that would
40:08
Speaker 1: be a decent answer.
40:09
Speaker 3: And that's again not like a deal breaker for me. Yeah.
40:13
Speaker 3: Question number fourteen, this is another really easy one. According
40:16
Speaker 3: to Wolfgang how Big, why does the Sandy Hook shooting
40:20
Speaker 3: crime not exist on the FBI twenty twelve crime report?
40:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. It's on there.
40:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, even Snopes, who I have a very troubled relationship with.
40:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just posted it. It's on Snopes. You can see.
40:35
Speaker 2: You can gi crime report from that year. Can go
40:38
Speaker 2: look at it.
40:39
Speaker 1: And I promise you those twenty some murders they report
40:43
Speaker 1: and saying in Newtown, Connecticut were that there wasn't a
40:46
Speaker 1: fucking serial killer on the loose that year. Also, this
40:50
Speaker 1: one is great question fifteen because this has been one
40:54
Speaker 1: that forever people have been.
40:55
Speaker 2: Like, oh see see question fifteen.
40:59
Speaker 1: According to Wolfgang how Big, why does the tax assessor's
41:02
Speaker 1: website show the victims families got free houses on Christmas
41:07
Speaker 1: Day when all government offices are closed. It is that
41:12
Speaker 1: metabunk covered this one. Also, basically before twenty ten, you
41:17
Speaker 1: didn't have to list the sale price on a deed
41:20
Speaker 1: for a house. So this metabunk dot org site pulled
41:25
Speaker 1: pretty much everyone's house record in Newtown, Connecticut, and they
41:29
Speaker 1: all show zero dollars for sale price. They also pulled
41:33
Speaker 1: the house record of Wolfgang how Big.
41:36
Speaker 2: His shows zero dollars. That's too funny.
41:39
Speaker 1: And or no, his show's ten dollars because there was
41:42
Speaker 1: some difference in where he bought his house that you
41:45
Speaker 1: had to list something, so they list ten dollars on his.
41:48
Speaker 1: But the guy who first started this rumor, his house
41:52
Speaker 1: record also shows zero dollars sold. So it seems like
41:55
Speaker 1: a really crazy smoking gun.
41:57
Speaker 3: Oh they gave him as I was, gonn give them
42:00
Speaker 3: all the backstory so they could kill their fake kids.
42:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, and none of that.
42:04
Speaker 1: It's just a fucking glitch with how deeds used to
42:08
Speaker 1: be written, and I think they kind of still are.
42:11
Speaker 1: I think there was just one minor change after twenty ten.
42:13
Speaker 2: I have something all.
42:15
Speaker 3: Conspiracies could just be dismissed with like real estate law.
42:19
Speaker 2: That would be so great.
42:22
Speaker 1: And this is the last question we'll do before we
42:25
Speaker 1: break for the second episode. Why were all the ambulances
42:30
Speaker 1: parked at the firehouse away from the crime scene except
42:33
Speaker 1: one On Dickinson Drive, which was also too far removed
42:35
Speaker 1: to be helpful. Why were so few EMTs allowed in
42:38
Speaker 1: the school? I don't know, man, I don't fucking plan disasters. Yeah, yeah,
42:44
Speaker 1: I'm assuming there was something with access. There were a
42:46
Speaker 1: lot of personnel trying to get in and out of
42:48
Speaker 1: the school.
42:49
Speaker 3: It seems like everyone was pretty clearly you know, deceased
42:52
Speaker 3: at this point.
42:53
Speaker 2: Yeah.
42:54
Speaker 1: I don't know how many EMTs they wanted trampling through
42:57
Speaker 1: that crime scene.
42:57
Speaker 3: Because i mean, you don't know if you're going to
42:59
Speaker 3: disturb some piece of eavange. So maybe there's another shooter
43:01
Speaker 3: and this is a whole thing that's gonna happen all
43:02
Speaker 3: over the count you know.
43:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's if you go out and look, you
43:05
Speaker 1: can find a list of the EMTs that were in
43:07
Speaker 1: the building, some of them like right away, because people
43:10
Speaker 1: forget some police officers are trained as medical officers.
43:15
Speaker 2: Also, yeah, they did double up on shit.
43:17
Speaker 1: So just the fact that there weren't clearly EMTs there,
43:21
Speaker 1: there were most likely or there were police officers there
43:24
Speaker 1: with medical training pretty much right away.
43:26
Speaker 3: And I'm sure like in a situation like this, you
43:28
Speaker 3: kind of have to triage. I mean, it's Unfortunately we
43:30
Speaker 3: have to be like, all right, well, we need to
43:32
Speaker 3: make sure there's no ware active shooters, and we got
43:33
Speaker 3: to send the police in and they also they'll be
43:35
Speaker 3: able to do a little bit of preliminary first aid
43:37
Speaker 3: on some people that may still be injured and hanging on,
43:39
Speaker 3: and then you know, the EMTs. You guys got to
43:41
Speaker 3: go in and the fire department's got to keep the
43:43
Speaker 3: exits open or whatever the fuck it is. But there's
43:45
Speaker 3: a there's a procedure involved in this.
43:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's the first sixteen questions. We're gonna We're
43:51
Speaker 1: gonna wrap up and finish this episode technically in two
43:56
Speaker 1: weeks because next week is our Russian apartment bombing.
43:59
Speaker 2: Episode, which is hell, your goddamn mine. That one is
44:03
Speaker 2: pretty fucking upsetting.
44:04
Speaker 1: Pretty fucking dark, And then we'll be back in two
44:07
Speaker 1: weeks with part two to this. That way, people who
44:09
Speaker 1: are listening for free don't get fucked out of getting
44:12
Speaker 1: part two like we did with the JFK conspiracy.
44:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, there will be a guy for two weeks who's like, oh, right,
44:16
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it's fake, but I mean Connor Adam
44:19
Speaker 3: to fully convince me.
44:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, So let the mystery build for two weeks and
44:23
Speaker 1: we'll be back to finish this episode off. Do we
44:26
Speaker 1: have anything to plug?
44:27
Speaker 3: What a cliffhanger? Does feel weird to plug stuff on
44:29
Speaker 3: this episode? Does feel weird to be like, Oh, listen
44:32
Speaker 3: to Mean Boys. They got a lot of jokes about
44:34
Speaker 3: dead kids on that podcast.
44:35
Speaker 1: I'm doing clean jokes at a preschool soon. Come check that.
44:39
Speaker 2: Out, are you? Oh no, I thought that was real
44:40
Speaker 2: For a second.
44:41
Speaker 3: I was like, Adam, you shouldn't even be allowed to
44:43
Speaker 3: go to a preschool in a non mascot capacity.
44:46
Speaker 2: That's very true.
44:48
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I don't even know. I don't know what
44:50
Speaker 1: I have to plug. Darkest Hours second Friday of every month,
44:53
Speaker 1: Westside Comedy Theater in Santa Monica, And I'll be announcing
44:57
Speaker 1: some dates soon. Now that I'm cutting back on pot cast,
45:00
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do more goddamn comedy.
45:02
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you gotta get a little tour coming up.
45:04
Speaker 3: We got a little tour coming up, Mean Boys Tour.
45:06
Speaker 3: By the time there's that, we'll probably have those dates.
45:08
Speaker 2: Locks.
45:08
Speaker 3: We got the skates and we're just details are fun
45:10
Speaker 3: in the place. Meanboys podcast dot com slash shows for
45:13
Speaker 3: those conomicspad dot com for all your conomic expad needs.
45:16
Speaker 2: I guess nice. Uh And yeah, that's it.
45:19
Speaker 1: We're gonna wrap this up and then we'll be back
45:21
Speaker 1: with part two of this episode. Let's get the fuck
45:23
Speaker 1: out of here, Connor say goodbye.
45:25
Speaker 2: Goodbye everybody. Goodbye everybody. We love you.