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Mary Ann and the Town that Dreaded the Sad Trombone · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Beyond any terror you have imagined.
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  Speaker 2: A nightmare.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 4: Unlike anything you have witnessed.
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  Speaker 2: Is born.
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  Speaker 5: Hi, my name is Andrew Robinson, and you are listening
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  Speaker 5: to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 1: The unholy is unleashed.
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  Speaker 5: The following feature has been rated R by the Motion
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  Speaker 5: Picture Association of America. It is intended for mature audiences
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  Speaker 5: and parental discretion is advised.
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  Speaker 6: It's showtime, folks. Enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 7: Our nuclear reactor, pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 8: Aren't instruments fun?
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  Speaker 9: Okay, I think you've just crossed my threshold.
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  Speaker 8: What?
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  Speaker 7: Watch a horror movie right there on my TV.
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  Speaker 9: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Misty.
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  Speaker 9: And I'm Jake. And we're coming to you live via
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  Speaker 9: digital recording from the Bastion of Awesomeness. Yeah. For this
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  Speaker 9: very special Horror Club episode. This is the Horror Club
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  Speaker 9: Bastion chapter. I think we did this last time. We've
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  Speaker 9: done a few. Definitely we've done a lot of horror
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  Speaker 9: movies over the years. But I think since we officially
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  Speaker 9: made it Horror Club, we did Wolf Girl.
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  Speaker 7: Wolf Girl.
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  Speaker 9: That was one of the official entries.
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  Speaker 3: Does that mean ours is going to be a Patreon episode?
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  Speaker 9: They should all be on Patreon anyway. But this one
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  Speaker 9: I was going to do as a special promo to
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  Speaker 9: tell people they should be joining the Horror Club so
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  Speaker 9: they can experience all the wonders of the Horror Club.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, they're going to be let down if we are
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  Speaker 3: your introduction.
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  Speaker 9: It's like with where we talk about horror movies, except
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  Speaker 9: probably not these two.
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  Speaker 8: Well, never mind that.
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  Speaker 9: It is drastically different from one episode to the next,
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  Speaker 9: I have to say. Because every episode, when we change people,
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  Speaker 9: it's just such a different vibe.
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  Speaker 8: We're the lowbrow crowd.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know that any of us are more not lowbrow,
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  Speaker 9: but everybody's just so different. It's always kind of in
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  Speaker 9: that way with the show. I like it. I think
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  Speaker 9: it mixes things up. I like just having different people
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  Speaker 9: to talk to. Keeps you on your toes. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 9: think it gives people the variety. Because variety is the
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  Speaker 9: spice of life.
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  Speaker 3: Your baby Yoda covered toes.
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  Speaker 9: Yes, we're here to talk about a horror movie, but
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  Speaker 9: mostly we're looking at Wall of Yodas. There's baby Yoda.
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  Speaker 9: We discussed it on the last episode at the Bastion,
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  Speaker 9: but good lord, there's more Yodas since last time.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm wearing my baby Yoda socks and my baby
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  Speaker 3: Yoda gym jams. My baby Yoda gym jams have pants pockets.
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  Speaker 9: You're next to a mountain of baby yodas. I'm not exaggerating.
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  Speaker 9: It's a mountain. And she won't let me sit over
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  Speaker 9: there because I'm too close to them and I might
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  Speaker 9: touch them.
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  Speaker 3: You might.
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  Speaker 8: I don't want that. I don't know where you've been.
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  Speaker 9: I'm infected with COVID.
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  Speaker 8: I know.
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  Speaker 3: All the more reason to stay on that side of
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  Speaker 3: the room.
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  Speaker 9: Some of them came from China. They're fine.
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  Speaker 3: At least five of them came from China. They were
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  Speaker 3: all properly quarantined. Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 9: They've already had it in their finest. Once you're past it,
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  Speaker 9: you're invincible.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, Lord. I might have had it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know. They told me I did.
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  Speaker 7: And for all the nerds, yes, Misty knows that it's
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  Speaker 7: not Baby Yoda, that the child is actually.
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  Speaker 3: Grogu or whatever.
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  Speaker 7: Grogu, but she refuses to call him Grogu.
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  Speaker 9: I think we're all still kind of just calling him
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  Speaker 9: Baby Yoda because he's Baby Yoda. I figured eventually they're
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  Speaker 9: going to have to give him a name, but, I mean...
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  Speaker 9: I like that everybody just went with it and the
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  Speaker 9: nerds weren't as nitpicky about that. Because I'm like, look,
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  Speaker 9: if everybody calls it that, that's what it is. Anybody
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  Speaker 9: that wants to play the Frankenstein monster game with, I'm
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  Speaker 9: just like, but most people just call that big green
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  Speaker 9: lurking dude.
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  Speaker 7: Frankenstein.
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  Speaker 9: Frankenstein. That's just fine. That's what it is. Now, technically, okay,
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  Speaker 9: read the novel. Yeah, okay, whatever. But if most people
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  Speaker 9: in the world are calling it Frankenstein, then we... We
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  Speaker 9: made up the language, and the language says his name's Frankenstein.
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  Speaker 9: And that's a Baby Yoda.
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  Speaker 3: I bought a book today that is a retelling of
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  Speaker 3: the story of Frankenstein.
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  Speaker 9: Featuring Baby Yoda.
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  Speaker 3: That would be the most awesome thing that's ever existed.
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  Speaker 3: But it's retold as a child's book, so it's just like.
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  Speaker 9: I'm on board with that.
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  Speaker 3: And I bought a book that's like the mummy, but
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  Speaker 3: like retold as a kid's book.
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  Speaker 9: I think I've seen some versions of those, but yeah,
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  Speaker 9: I like... Again, my brain works as though I'm a child,
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  Speaker 9: so it's best that most things are made for children
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  Speaker 9: if I'm going to interact with them. So, how's it going? Eh.
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  Speaker 3: We're coming off the busy. Well, actually, this year wasn't
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  Speaker 3: that bad.
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  Speaker 9: Because the world was shut down.
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  Speaker 8: Which you think would have... I was prepared.
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  Speaker 9: Although, yeah, considering... We won't go into specifics, but considering
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  Speaker 9: what you do, I would assume in the shutdown world,
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  Speaker 9: you would be way more pressed... And craziness and insanity
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  Speaker 9: and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't that bad, but it was still more than
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  Speaker 3: I liked to deal with. So now we're just coming down.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't watch a lot. We've been re-watching the first
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  Speaker 3: season of Sherlock.
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  Speaker 9: It's so good.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know what else we watched.
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  Speaker 3: We haven't done a show for a long time. I
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  Speaker 3: was introduced to the fact that there is a Christmas
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  Speaker 3: special that took place. Well, actually, it was Rudolph and
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  Speaker 3: Frosty in July or some.
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  Speaker 9: Shit like that. Oh, yeah. I remember watching that one.
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  Speaker 8: I'd never seen it before.
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  Speaker 9: Wasn't that just like the holidays? Like, they go looking
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  Speaker 9: for people that are the holidays people.
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  Speaker 3: No, they go to a circus.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, Lord. Maybe this is a different one.
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  Speaker 3: Frosty and his family want to go to the circus,
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  Speaker 3: and the ice cream guy who brings all his ice
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  Speaker 3: cream in a hot air balloon to the North Pole
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  Speaker 3: to keep it cold, which sounds ridiculous. Maybe I haven't
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  Speaker 3: seen this. Apparently his girlfriend that he loves works for
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  Speaker 3: the circus, so he decides that if he can get
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  Speaker 3: Rudolph and Frosty as sideshow attractions for his circus, it
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  Speaker 3: will make the circus prosper and the.
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  Speaker 8: Woman will love him.
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  Speaker 9: It's not his circus.
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  Speaker 8: It's his girlfriend. He's the ice cream guy. Family, business, whatever.
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  Speaker 7: The mom runs the circus. The girl that he's in
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  Speaker 7: love with is a performer in the circus, and he
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  Speaker 7: does work as an ice cream man, bringing ice cream
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  Speaker 7: to the circus, but he's trying to impress her and
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  Speaker 7: trying to help them basically keep their circus afloat.
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  Speaker 3: Well, there's a bad guy who has snow dragons, and
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  Speaker 3: that's all I fucking need in my life, snow dragons.
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  Speaker 9: When did this come out exactly?
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  Speaker 3: I think it was 79?
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  Speaker 9: He had flying snakes too.
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  Speaker 8: Flying fucking snakes. He had a sled like Santa Claus.
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  Speaker 9: Was it like a Rankin and Bass?
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  Speaker 8: Yes, it was. It had the same animation style.
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  Speaker 9: How the hell have I not? It's weird.
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  Speaker 3: There's like this bad wizard guy who was fucking amazing
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  Speaker 3: who had snow dragons and he had a sled like
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  Speaker 3: Santa Claus with snakes that led it.
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  Speaker 8: Holy shit.
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  Speaker 9: Yep. How have I not seen this? Because now I
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  Speaker 9: need to go find it.
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  Speaker 7: It's so silly because they've just got They got collars
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  Speaker 7: around them, but they're snakes, so you would think that
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  Speaker 7: they would just wiggle out of the collars.
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  Speaker 10: And not be able to pull its legs.
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  Speaker 9: No, because they don't have hands.
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  Speaker 3: It was a mid-air snake Rudolph battle.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.
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  Speaker 3: Rudolph has to fight the snakes.
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  Speaker 7: They're flying snakes, so they're, like, flying around. But they
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  Speaker 7: don't have wings, so they're just, like, snakes in the air.
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  Speaker 9: Well, Rudolph doesn't have wings. You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 7: When I say flying snakes, people think snakes with wings.
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  Speaker 9: Like flying toasters. Yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 8: But.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I guess the holidays is just the Rudolph Shiny
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  Speaker 9: New Year because that's the one with the caveman, right?
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  Speaker 9: That one was always weird too, but not that level
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  Speaker 9: of weird.
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  Speaker 3: Boyfriend kept complaining every five minutes.
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  Speaker 8: There's a lot of songs in this. There's a lot
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  Speaker 8: of songs.
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  Speaker 9: See, I forget that with the other. Even the Rudolph
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  Speaker 9: was on this year and I watched it and I
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  Speaker 9: was just like, Yeah, I forget some of these weird
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  Speaker 9: songs that they break into.
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  Speaker 3: There was a big, like, Shelley Winters was one of
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  Speaker 3: the voices in this? Ethel Merman?
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  Speaker 9: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 8: Who's that other guy who was in a lot of stuff,
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  Speaker 8: who's a kid actor, was probably in a lot of
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  Speaker 8: stuff with Shirley Temple, He was a guy.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, is it freaking... Tully Savalas?
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  Speaker 8: What the fuck?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: Yes, that's exactly who I was thinking of.
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  Speaker 7: I'm fucking up. Wasn't he in... Oh, wait, no, you're
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  Speaker 7: thinking Shirley Temple. I was thinking Annie.
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  Speaker 9: That's still not Daddy Warbucks. Daddy Savalas is Daddy Warbucks.
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  Speaker 9: He's got the sucker in his mouth.
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  Speaker 7: You're like, hey, baby.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, dude, I can't remember. You won't miss those days
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  Speaker 9: being an orphan.
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  Speaker 8: He had a brother.
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  Speaker 7: I can't remember shit.
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  Speaker 8: I think he had a brother.
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  Speaker 9: I'm trying to think who it is. You know my
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  Speaker 9: brain doesn't work anymore.
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  Speaker 8: You're usually pretty good at this game.
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  Speaker 9: I know, but I have to think a really long time.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I'll give up.
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  Speaker 7: You guys got smartphones.
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  Speaker 9: I know, but mine's in my pocket, and then I
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  Speaker 9: have to move and get to it.
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  Speaker 7: I guess I've got mine in my hand, so I
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  Speaker 7: should probably.
• 10:52
  Speaker 9: Mickey Rooney.
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  Speaker 8: Mickey Rooney. Jesus.
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  Speaker 9: I'm pretty sure that was right. He was in a
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  Speaker 9: lot of stuff with Judy Garland when they were older.
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  Speaker 11: Or not really older.
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  Speaker 3: Did I say Judy Garland, or did I say Shirley Temple?
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  Speaker 9: You said Shirley Temple.
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  Speaker 8: I got it way off.
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  Speaker 9: I think both, actually.
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  Speaker 7: You said Shirley Temple, which is why I thought of it.
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  Speaker 9: But I was thinking Judy Garland.
• 11:10
  Speaker 7: Lil' Orphan Annie. Which somehow led to Teddy Smalls.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, God. I'm just trying to picture that Annie. People
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  Speaker 9: were like shooting at him and stuff. He was like
• 11:23
  Speaker 9: ducking out of the way.
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  Speaker 8: But yes.
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  Speaker 7: Charles Bronson is. Teddy Smalls in. Teddy Wormux versus Lil'
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  Speaker 7: Orphan Annie.
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  Speaker 9: You made me mad.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, we haven't watched a lot. Because, like I said,
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  Speaker 3: we've just been.
• 11:39
  Speaker 8: We've watched a lot.
• 11:40
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 11:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we went back and watched Lord of Illusions, which
• 11:44
  Speaker 7: you'd never seen.
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  Speaker 8: That was pretty impressive.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Better than I thought it would be.
• 11:49
  Speaker 7: And there were some other movies that we saw that
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  Speaker 7: I can't remember that you'd never seen that we watched
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  Speaker 7: that I don't even remember. That you'd never seen.
• 11:59
  Speaker 9: Oh, oh!
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 12:00
  Speaker 7: Fucking Escape from L.A. Watch that. How'd you like that one?
• 12:04
  Speaker 9: That's... You know, I'll be the first to put several
• 12:11
  Speaker 9: Carpenter movies at the top of the best movies ever list.
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  Speaker 9: And then he does some other stuff, too. Escape from L.A.
• 12:19
  Speaker 9: is a weird... That's the thing. I would watch it now.
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  Speaker 9: It is entertaining.
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  Speaker 7: It's entertaining.
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  Speaker 9: But not in the same way most of his other
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  Speaker 9: better known things are.
• 12:29
  Speaker 7: It's so fucking corny.
• 12:30
  Speaker 9: You're just like, what the fuck?
• 12:32
  Speaker 7: Is going on in this movie go back and watch
• 12:35
  Speaker 7: it now and the cg is so fucking bad.
• 12:38
  Speaker 9: I mean it was right at that point of them
• 12:40
  Speaker 9: like we can probably use cg for this yeah and
• 12:43
  Speaker 9: in the 90s you were like oh that kind of
• 12:45
  Speaker 9: looks cool that kind of looks.
• 12:46
  Speaker 7: Real and then you go back and watch it now
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  Speaker 7: like on a high def tv and you're like dude
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  Speaker 7: looks fucking horrible looks like you made it in my
• 12:54
  Speaker 7: living room right now exactly i've seen better stuff done
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  Speaker 7: on computer.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah. They made a lot of strange choices in that movie.
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  Speaker 7: That was a weird movie.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: What else did we watch that I made you sit
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  Speaker 7: down and watch?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I know we sat down and
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  Speaker 3: played a game.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: We played a game. We sat down and played a
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  Speaker 7: board game for once.
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  Speaker 3: I guess there is kind of a board.
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  Speaker 7: It is a board game.
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  Speaker 3: Did you see my post about it?
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  Speaker 9: I might have.
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  Speaker 7: So, when we were on the quest for looking for
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  Speaker 7: Baby Yodas and stuff.
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  Speaker 9: Maybe I didn't. I.
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  Speaker 7: Went through the gaming aisle and just happened to see it.
• 13:35
  Speaker 7: And Noah and Misty's love for choose-your-own-adventure books and stuff
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  Speaker 7: like that. They have a choose-your-own-adventure board game.
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  Speaker 9: No.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So we got it. Which one's that one? I can't
• 13:48
  Speaker 7: even read it from here.
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: House of Danger?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, House of Danger.
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  Speaker 9: I'm looking at the choose-your-own-adventure and the box looks just
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  Speaker 9: like one of the old choose-your-own-adventure books. House of Danger. Yeah,
• 13:58
  Speaker 9: it's pretty fun. Based on the book by... R.A. Montgomery.
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  Speaker 8: Who passed away last year, maybe?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe the year before? I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: Where were you when this took place?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, if I was going to take anybody out, why
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  Speaker 3: would it be the creator? I don't know if he
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  Speaker 3: actually created. You just seemed.
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  Speaker 9: Really familiar with his death. I thought you were coming
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  Speaker 9: clean on something.
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  Speaker 8: No, because I just remember being pretty sad about it.
• 14:23
  Speaker 9: I do like these dogs in the instruction booklet.
• 14:25
  Speaker 8: You see the art around the side of the box?
• 14:26
  Speaker 12: Look at the.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, Lord. There's some sort of monkey dudes. Dobermans?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 14:34
  Speaker 9: This is a lady with gloves. And a dude who's
• 14:38
  Speaker 9: going to punch you. It's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 7: It kind of plays a little bit like....
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  Speaker 8: Like reading the book.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it plays a little bit like reading the book,
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  Speaker 7: but there's kind of... There's like a weird board that
• 14:49
  Speaker 7: you have, and you have these.
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  Speaker 7: This scale that you kind of move up on that's
• 14:55
  Speaker 7: for your psychic abilities, because... In the book, or in
• 14:58
  Speaker 7: the game.
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  Speaker 9: There's a danger meter.
• 14:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah, in the game you play this psychic detective.
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  Speaker 8: You know.
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  Speaker 3: And I was wrong, he died six years ago, so
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  Speaker 3: I am even less accountable.
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  Speaker 9: So you say. That was just your good cover.
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  Speaker 7: But yeah, you have cards that you draw, and of
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  Speaker 7: course you die like you did in the book, but
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  Speaker 7: at least you save.
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  Speaker 9: Your place where your finger is and you turn back.
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  Speaker 7: This thing says keep the card, like it'll say keep
• 15:20
  Speaker 7: this card out because in the rules it's like you're
• 15:22
  Speaker 7: gonna die. So just It'll have kind of a place card.
• 15:27
  Speaker 7: A place card, yeah. Where you can go back and
• 15:30
  Speaker 7: pick up on your adventure.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: You can collect certain items to help you on your way.
• 15:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you do that. There's several chapters. We've played through
• 15:38
  Speaker 7: it a couple nights. Are we on the last chapter?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, we've gone through four of five chapters.
• 15:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but we actually need to go back.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Because we didn't realize how vital it was to go back.
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  Speaker 8: Because once you get to the end of a chapter,
• 15:49
  Speaker 8: it gives you the option.
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  Speaker 3: To go back.
• 15:51
  Speaker 9: Yeah. Take other paths kind of thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, sit this card here. if you want to
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  Speaker 3: go investigate more things and possibly collect more items to
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: help you.
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  Speaker 7: When we first started playing it, we were just trying
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: to get through the chapters. And then as we got
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  Speaker 7: further into it, we realized that you actually kind of
• 16:08
  Speaker 7: need to go through each chapter, go through each challenge.
• 16:11
  Speaker 7: Cause it offers you like side, like side quests, side challenges. Like,
• 16:16
  Speaker 7: do you choose to fight the lab assistant? If so,
• 16:23
  Speaker 7: roll the die, and depending on what your danger meter is,
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: and if you have any enhancers, like if you've got
• 16:29
  Speaker 7: a pistol, or a pocket knife, or a length of pipe,
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: or something that increases.
• 16:36
  Speaker 8: Flare gun.
• 16:37
  Speaker 7: Anything that increases your damage, then it helps you with
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: your roll. But there's some things that you need to...
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: certain items that you have to collect throughout the game,
• 16:48
  Speaker 7: like keys, briefcase, papers, ID cards, stuff like that, that
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: if you don't collect it as you get further on
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: in the game, further into the chapters, it'll be like,
• 16:59
  Speaker 7: did you collect the key card from Chapter 1?
• 17:01
  Speaker 9: Damn it.
• 17:03
  Speaker 7: No, we didn't. Well, you're shit out of luck because
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: you can't do this challenge, so go do this challenge instead.
• 17:09
  Speaker 7: So it's one of those things where we're going to
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: have to go back through and really just kind of
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: do everything, all the little side quests.
• 17:15
  Speaker 9: I've kind of given up on board games for years now.
• 17:18
  Speaker 9: Mostly because there's nobody to play it. I had to.
• 17:20
  Speaker 9: But I got so sick of them back when we
• 17:22
  Speaker 9: did play them that I just got burned out.
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: You can actually play that by yourself though.
• 17:24
  Speaker 9: This one, yeah, this one actually seems kind of cool.
• 17:26
  Speaker 9: And I really, I like this skeleton dude. He's wearing
• 17:29
  Speaker 9: a robe and he has a sword.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: There are some really cool cards in there because a
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: lot of the cards have art on them.
• 17:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 17:34
  Speaker 9: I'm on board with the cool artwork.
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: But it's, it's one of those that you can play
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: by yourself.
• 17:40
  Speaker 8: Uh, Literally.
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: And Misty and I play it. I mean, both of
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: us play it together. So we'll take turns reading the
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: cards and take turns making our decisions on, you know,
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: do you want to crawl into the open grave or
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: do you want to crawl up the ladder?
• 17:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah. Of course.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: That was not a good decision, was it? No. I mean,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: that was a decision I made that killed us.
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: We died. So, you know.
• 18:02
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah. I would almost play that.
• 18:04
  Speaker 12: It's awesome.
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: There's two of them out that are right now. There
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: are two of them that are out right now. One
• 18:09
  Speaker 7: of them is.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: That's not listed on the box.
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, one of them is that one and the other one,
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: I don't remember what the other one is. You could
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: probably look it up.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: I could, but... But we're not going to.
• 18:19
  Speaker 8: No, we're not.
• 18:20
  Speaker 9: Lazy.
• 18:21
  Speaker 8: Your homework should you choose to accept.
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 18:24
  Speaker 8: To look this game up.
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: But it's been a while since we played board games.
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: We used to play cards a lot, but I just
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: got tired of beating me at cards all the time.
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: It just wasn't any fun.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Well, this way we can lose together.
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, this way we can lose together.
• 18:36
  Speaker 9: That does even things out a little bit.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: There have been occasions where we have sat and read
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Choose Your Own Adventure books together, and I have given.
• 18:42
  Speaker 8: You the options.
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we have. But I usually fall asleep.
• 18:45
  Speaker 9: You do.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: That's what my voice does.
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: Most things. That's why I plan accordingly when I watch stuff.
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: Well, any time we have time to do that, it's
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: at night, which is usually.
• 18:55
  Speaker 9: When I sleep, so.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: No, I did catch you once because I bought one
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: when we were out somewhere, so I was reading it
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: to you in the car so you could not fall asleep.
• 19:02
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah. Let's hope.
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I couldn't fall asleep in that one.
• 19:07
  Speaker 9: Well, I watched something, but I have a specific tie-in
• 19:10
  Speaker 9: for Jay.
• 19:13
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 19:14
  Speaker 9: So, this one, they worked out because it was this morning,
• 19:19
  Speaker 9: so I wasn't sleepy because I just woke up. Which
• 19:21
  Speaker 9: has usually become my go-to now.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's never stopped me.
• 19:24
  Speaker 9: I like, well, yeah, I'm not saying I don't ever,
• 19:26
  Speaker 9: but I've got a better chance if like I just
• 19:28
  Speaker 9: woke up of being like, hey, let's watch a movie now. So,
• 19:32
  Speaker 9: and you know, there's always like, I've got, I know
• 19:35
  Speaker 9: this will be weird to you, stacks of movies. I
• 19:37
  Speaker 9: know you don't know what that's like.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you can't see them from here.
• 19:40
  Speaker 9: But I've got stacks of movies that I bought because
• 19:42
  Speaker 9: it was cheap and I meant to get around to
• 19:44
  Speaker 9: and I haven't watched. But many is the time I
• 19:46
  Speaker 9: will be sitting there amongst all these new movies I
• 19:49
  Speaker 9: haven't seen and be like, you know what i want
• 19:50
  Speaker 9: to watch and i go back it's we we have
• 19:52
  Speaker 9: our like our comfort movies we just you know i've
• 19:56
  Speaker 9: got a million things i need to watch but i
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: want to watch this thing i've already seen a whole
• 19:59
  Speaker 9: bunch but sometimes.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Clueless because i can never pass by clueless.
• 20:03
  Speaker 9: Oh no i mean i'm all on board with some
• 20:05
  Speaker 9: clueless but.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: How many times is boyfriend halfway seen clueless I don't know.
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: I usually get up early in the room.
• 20:11
  Speaker 9: He just hears you quoting it most of the movie
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: at this point. This was, and I didn't really think
• 20:17
  Speaker 9: about it because I avoided most. We're post Christmas now
• 20:20
  Speaker 9: and we're into the new year. Look, we survived. We're
• 20:23
  Speaker 9: in 2021.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Same shit as before.
• 20:25
  Speaker 9: Maybe not.
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: Except for yes.
• 20:27
  Speaker 9: Hopefully better. Anyway, so, but it's funny because most stuff
• 20:31
  Speaker 9: like every year I tell myself I'm going to watch
• 20:34
  Speaker 9: Christmasy stuff because I know I'm not going to watch
• 20:36
  Speaker 9: it the rest of the time. But I never want
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: to start too early because I get sick of Christmas
• 20:39
  Speaker 9: real quick. And then once it happens, I'm like, whatever,
• 20:43
  Speaker 9: I'm done now. So there's a very small window when
• 20:45
  Speaker 9: I watch Santa Girl. And other than that, there was
• 20:50
  Speaker 9: one other one I tried to start and I just
• 20:52
  Speaker 9: kind of fell asleep and didn't go back. So I
• 20:53
  Speaker 9: was like, I really didn't watch a lot of Christmassy
• 20:55
  Speaker 9: stuff this year. And then I got to the one
• 20:58
  Speaker 9: I wanted to watch this morning and I went, technically
• 20:59
  Speaker 9: it's a Christmas movie. Today I watched Die Hard 2.
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: I know Die Hard 1 is.
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: See, that's the thing. Everybody wants to have the little
• 21:08
  Speaker 9: Die Hard argument every December. Let's have a weird battle
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: on the internet.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Everybody who says that Die Hard is not a Christmas
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: movie is fucking wrong.
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: I said it. I don't care.
• 21:19
  Speaker 9: I mean, I don't care. It is because it takes
• 21:22
  Speaker 9: place at Christmas. It doesn't focus around Santa Claus or anything,
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: but I mean... I don't remember. He says ho, ho,
• 21:28
  Speaker 9: ho when he writes it in blood, so that's almost
• 21:31
  Speaker 9: the same.
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: I don't remember the second one.
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: But the second one is essentially the same setup. It's
• 21:36
  Speaker 9: him going to... Before, he was going to see his
• 21:39
  Speaker 9: wife because it was Christmas and visit the kids.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Is the second one the one that has Jeremy Irons?
• 21:43
  Speaker 9: No, that's the third one, and I am on... But
• 21:45
  Speaker 9: that's kind of what made me think of this, because
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: in the last episode, I was referencing a song from
• 21:49
  Speaker 9: the third movie... And then I, well, connected to the
• 21:53
  Speaker 9: third movie there. And I was thinking, man, I love
• 21:56
  Speaker 9: that movie. And then I was like, I haven't watched
• 21:58
  Speaker 9: that one or the second one in forever. And then
• 22:00
  Speaker 9: this morning that reoccurred to me. I was like, did
• 22:02
  Speaker 9: I just talk myself into watching Die Hard 2? It
• 22:05
  Speaker 9: did not take a whole lot of talking. That's the
• 22:07
  Speaker 9: Rennie Harlan one. It's the one in the airport the
• 22:09
  Speaker 9: whole time, essentially. And it's pretty good. Like, it holds up. Like,
• 22:15
  Speaker 9: Rennie Harlan has made a lot of questionable decisions in
• 22:17
  Speaker 9: his life as well, movie-wise.
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: Or personal.
• 22:20
  Speaker 9: I don't know him that well. But that one, maybe,
• 22:23
  Speaker 9: arguably his best movie. He's done a couple of decent ones,
• 22:27
  Speaker 9: but Die Hard 2 is pretty solid. I was surprised
• 22:31
  Speaker 9: how much I still kind of like the story. And
• 22:35
  Speaker 9: even as ridiculous as it is shoving him back into
• 22:37
  Speaker 9: one of these scenarios, it doesn't seem as far-fetched because
• 22:41
  Speaker 9: he's doing it to himself the whole time. Like, he
• 22:43
  Speaker 9: keeps getting himself further and further into this. Last time, he, like,
• 22:46
  Speaker 9: accidentally got roped into it. This time he's a cop
• 22:49
  Speaker 9: and he's just like, hey, that guy looks like he's
• 22:51
  Speaker 9: up to something. I'm going to go see what he's doing.
• 22:53
  Speaker 9: And then he's trying to save his wife the whole time.
• 22:56
  Speaker 9: So it doesn't seem as far-fetched the more I watched
• 22:59
  Speaker 9: it and thought about it this time.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Just got John Amos.
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: That's the other thing. We'll get to the other forgotten
• 23:05
  Speaker 9: people that I had no idea were in there. Or
• 23:07
  Speaker 9: I knew and I'd forgotten since last time I watched
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: it because it's been a long damn time. But my
• 23:12
  Speaker 9: specific go-to question for you, Jay.
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 23:15
  Speaker 9: Because... Again, we don't have to go into the specifics
• 23:18
  Speaker 9: of anyone's outside life. But at some point in your life,
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: you've held a torch. I know at least one of
• 23:25
  Speaker 9: our listeners likes that you have torch stories. But in
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: this movie, the bad guys, the terrorists.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Hold on, which kind of torch are we talking about?
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: Like, in a cave torch?
• 23:38
  Speaker 9: No, no. This is a.
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: Like you're going to weld something? Like a blowtorch?
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: Are we talking about a blowtorch? Are we talking about
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: a flamethrower?
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: No, I mean, this is like a full-on, what looks
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: like an arc welding torch of some sort.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: I was picturing him like that.
• 23:52
  Speaker 9: Like him going spelunking with a torch?
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: No, I was picturing a stick with.
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: An oily rag wrapped around it.
• 23:58
  Speaker 9: Was he dressed like Indiana Jones? That's the way I
• 24:03
  Speaker 9: picture everybody when they have a torch. But anyway, so
• 24:06
  Speaker 9: the bad guys take over this church. And they add
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: spoilers if you haven't seen Die Hard 2. They take
• 24:11
  Speaker 9: over this church and that's how they're going to take
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: over the airport because it's right next to the airport.
• 24:15
  Speaker 9: And they're like stealing, they're cutting into the cables, going
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: to the airport to like take over their equipment that
• 24:21
  Speaker 9: gets to the planes and blah, blah, whatever. Yeah. Anyway,
• 24:25
  Speaker 9: so they go out to the big power boxes sitting
• 24:27
  Speaker 9: next to the thing. Now, the first time they cut
• 24:29
  Speaker 9: to it, I'm like, okay, it makes sense. He's like,
• 24:32
  Speaker 9: they're locked up as they should be. So people can't
• 24:34
  Speaker 9: just bust into him. So he's using a torch to
• 24:36
  Speaker 9: like cut his way into this thing. That made sense. Fine.
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: Whatever.
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: I didn't question much. When they come back to this
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: person later, he's using what I think is that same
• 24:46
  Speaker 9: torch to connect up the electronics. I went back and
• 24:51
  Speaker 9: watched it again. That second time they cut to him,
• 24:53
  Speaker 9: he's got the torch going, there's sparks coming off of it,
• 24:57
  Speaker 9: and then suddenly the power comes on and he hits
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: a something and they're connected. Now what the hell would
• 25:03
  Speaker 9: you use a torch for to connect things?
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: Like an oxyacetylene torch?
• 25:10
  Speaker 9: It's a big, like the flame is like huge. No, no.
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: I mean, I was like, I know. That's what I
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: was going to say. I know just enough about electronics
• 25:18
  Speaker 9: to know you can solder wires, but I don't think
• 25:21
  Speaker 9: you'd use that kind of a torch.
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: Oxysettling torch to cut right through it.
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: That's what I'm saying.
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: Melt everything.
• 25:26
  Speaker 9: How would you do anything but destroy everything in that
• 25:29
  Speaker 9: box with a torch? Yeah. I, yeah. I had torch questions.
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: I've never seen the second Die Hard.
• 25:37
  Speaker 9: It's fun. I liked it.
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: But if it's an oxyacetylene torch, which is like the wand,
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: like a brass wand, and it's got a torch head,
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: and it's got a flame about that big. It's got
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: two lines. It's got an oxygen line and an acetylene line.
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: So you've got two different tanks. It runs to an
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: oxygen tank and an acetylene tank. You can braze with those,
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: but you have to have a brazing tip. And usually
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: when you braze, the flame's only about that big. Uh,
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: and that's used for, uh, used for welding. But, uh,
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: as far as soldering, you would use a soldering iron,
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: not an acetylene torch.
• 26:12
  Speaker 9: You would just tear up everything.
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: You know, there's a lot of times there's things in
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: movies where you're just like, uh.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: That's not real.
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: That's not real.
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: So.
• 26:21
  Speaker 9: Well, I mean, I do that with a lot of stuff,
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: but that one was just enough that like, no, I
• 26:24
  Speaker 9: will let a lot of stuff slide. Like, I'm just like, eh,
• 26:26
  Speaker 9: it's a movie. Who cares? But that one just seemed
• 26:29
  Speaker 9: so weird that I was like, what the fuck would
• 26:31
  Speaker 9: you be? I think I said it out loud to
• 26:33
  Speaker 9: myself cause I'm sitting there. watching the movie and i'm
• 26:36
  Speaker 9: just like why would you be using a torch to
• 26:38
  Speaker 9: connect wires or whatever he's doing to hot wire this
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: thing and get them on the grid and i was
• 26:44
  Speaker 9: just like what the.
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: Hell are you doing it's funny because like anytime i've
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: got a friend that works in computers he works in
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: uh well i guess geez i guess he he does
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: uh security for government stuff now uh but he's always
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: been into computers and he was into like uh not
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: really into hacking but kind of he's one of those
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: guys that likes hacking you know but i don't think
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: he actually hacks stuff you know we'll say for his
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: benefit that he doesn't hack stuff but anyways uh his
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: biggest pet peeve is like watching any kind of movie
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: that has computer stuff in it like hackers where he
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: they're talking about cool movies they're talking about yeah this
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: and it's It's got a PCI bus and all this
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: other stuff. It's him going off through the whole movie
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: about how stupid.
• 27:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, most movies. And that stuff doesn't age very well. No,
• 27:37
  Speaker 9: but it was the 90s. When you watch Johnny Mnemonic now,
• 27:40
  Speaker 9: you're just like, wait, wait. How much storage is he
• 27:44
  Speaker 9: putting in his brain? Because I've got ten times that
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: in my phone. Or a hundred times that in my phone.
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: He's downloading one gig into his brain.
• 27:52
  Speaker 9: It's going to leak. You know? He has to get memories.
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: Out of his head to fit that one megabyte into
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: his head.
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: 1,000 bytes.
• 28:03
  Speaker 9: I saw something the other day. It was on, again,
• 28:05
  Speaker 9: probably some meme or some bullshit online. But it was
• 28:08
  Speaker 9: funny because they said, in movies, hacking equals typing really fast. Oh, yeah.
• 28:12
  Speaker 9: As long as you're making fast clicking noises, you're a hacker.
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you're hacking. Hacking all kinds of stuff.
• 28:18
  Speaker 9: That was kind of the takeaway on this as well.
• 28:20
  Speaker 9: I was just like, I don't think that person knows
• 28:22
  Speaker 9: what the hell they're doing with that torch.
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: You know, sometimes Hollywood just writes stuff. They're just kind
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: of like, you know what? Just do this.
• 28:28
  Speaker 9: Just use your torch to make electronics work.
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: How many people are going to bitch about it? Not
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: that many people.
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: Us.
• 28:34
  Speaker 9: But then they did a really quick close-up. Just enough
• 28:38
  Speaker 9: I had to check later and make sure I was right.
• 28:40
  Speaker 9: And then it kind of made sense why this person
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: with the torch didn't know what the hell they were doing.
• 28:44
  Speaker 9: They cut really close to him as he was like,
• 28:46
  Speaker 9: all right, you're on line or whatever the hell he
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: said when they zoomed in on him. And I was like,
• 28:50
  Speaker 9: was that John Leguizamo? A young, pre-everything. I went back
• 28:57
  Speaker 9: and I was like, did I already know who he
• 28:58
  Speaker 9: was by then? But he was only done a handful
• 29:01
  Speaker 9: of things, period. So this was probably like a big
• 29:03
  Speaker 9: break for him. So yeah, young.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: I don't really remember him before Romeo and Juliet.
• 29:08
  Speaker 9: See, that's what I was thinking. I already knew who
• 29:10
  Speaker 9: he was by then. I was thinking there was something else, too.
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: There was a few things that I was like, where
• 29:15
  Speaker 9: did I know him from? I guess maybe just stand-up,
• 29:17
  Speaker 9: because he had pretty big stand-up specials by that time. Stand-up.
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: I think the first time I saw him was like.
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: Jeez, I don't even remember. Could have been The Pest.
• 29:30
  Speaker 9: That was even later.
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: Was that later?
• 29:32
  Speaker 9: That was just the point everyone turned on him.
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: What about when he played in Spawn? He was in Spawn.
• 29:40
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah, The Violator.
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: The Violator, yeah.
• 29:42
  Speaker 9: That's an odd casting choice, too. I like John Leguizamo
• 29:45
  Speaker 9: more than most people, but even at the time, I
• 29:48
  Speaker 9: was like, wait, he's playing The Violator? Yeah. That makes
• 29:52
  Speaker 9: no sense.
• 29:53
  Speaker 13: I don't know.
• 29:55
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
• 29:55
  Speaker 7: They should remake that movie. Spawn needs to be remade.
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: Yeah, because the animated one was great.
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: The animated one was awesome.
• 30:01
  Speaker 9: I thought, yeah. I thought, okay, finally, we're going to
• 30:04
  Speaker 9: get one. Well, it was like a year later. They
• 30:05
  Speaker 9: made a live action. I was like, that's cool. And
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: then I was like, oh, what the hell is this? Yeah. So, yeah. But, yeah,
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: young John Leguizamo.
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: And they tried to bring out the live action. McFarlane
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: figures that just didn't really sell. Were they McFarlane? Did
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: McFarlane do the live-action one?
• 30:22
  Speaker 9: He probably did, because that guy got himself involved in
• 30:26
  Speaker 9: everything toy-wise for a long time there, so that would
• 30:28
  Speaker 9: not surprise me. Yeah. The other interesting one that I
• 30:32
  Speaker 9: feel like last time I watched it, he's in it
• 30:35
  Speaker 9: a little more, so it's not like you ID'd him,
• 30:37
  Speaker 9: but I was like, hey, look, it's little Robert Patrick.
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: The year before, he.
• 30:42
  Speaker 9: Was asking people, have you seen this boy? He was
• 30:45
  Speaker 9: there with his... weird baby-looking face, because I'm so used
• 30:49
  Speaker 9: to being the old dude on Scorpion now, that seeing
• 30:52
  Speaker 9: little Robert Patrick, this was kind of fun. He's just
• 30:55
  Speaker 9: a terrorist. He's one of the side dudes. He has
• 30:58
  Speaker 9: one kind of scene where he has a line, and
• 31:01
  Speaker 9: he shoots some people. But yeah, other than that, he's
• 31:05
  Speaker 9: gone pretty quick. Just weird people popping up as terrorists
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: in this movie. Alright. Well, I think... We'll take our
• 31:15
  Speaker 9: break here. When we come back, we've got not just
• 31:18
  Speaker 9: a movie, but a special tie-in reason that I'm sure
• 31:22
  Speaker 9: you're well aware of.
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: We'll be back.
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: In the town that dreaded.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Sundown We'll get to see the morning light.
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: In the town that dreaded sundown, baby.
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: Hungry? Thirsty?
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: The refreshment stand is open with everything to satisfy your
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: taste buds.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Here's the menu.
• 31:53
  Speaker 9: Try McCain Deep and Delicious Coconut Cream Pie. Made with
• 31:56
  Speaker 9: real cream and topped with toasted coconut shavings. McCain.
• 31:59
  Speaker 14: Long Live Pie.
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: So Misty, you like horror.
• 32:09
  Speaker 9: I do.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: It's my favorite.
• 32:11
  Speaker 9: I think most people are into that. And if they are,
• 32:14
  Speaker 9: they should be joining up on the old Meltdown Horror Club.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I will take you to a place where my friends foregather.
• 32:21
  Speaker 9: There you will find stories of.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: Such blood-curdling terror that will make your toes curl and
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: your hair reach up towards the sky.
• 32:32
  Speaker 9: Well, yes, all they have to do is go to MovieMeltdown.com,
• 32:35
  Speaker 9: click on the Meltdown Horror Club link that's right there
• 32:38
  Speaker 9: on the right-hand side, and join the club.
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: Hells yeah.
• 32:41
  Speaker 9: And then they can hear... Exclusive episodes. All about horror.
• 32:45
  Speaker 9: All about whatever crazy movies we're watching. And at this point,
• 32:49
  Speaker 9: they get to help us pick the next movie that
• 32:51
  Speaker 9: we watch.
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: Awesome.
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: Them and Satan. And or the evil forces that live
• 32:57
  Speaker 9: inside the 20-sided die that I now use to choose
• 33:00
  Speaker 9: what our next horror movie is going to be. But
• 33:02
  Speaker 9: you put things on the list and then we go
• 33:04
  Speaker 9: to the evil forces that live in the die and
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: they tell us what the next movie is. It's pretty fun.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Sounds pretty exciting.
• 33:10
  Speaker 9: I think we're having fun with it, and you can
• 33:12
  Speaker 9: be part of that fun. Go to MovieMeltdown.com, join the
• 33:16
  Speaker 9: Meltdown Horror Club, and get in on the action.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: The most fun you'll ever have being scared.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: The ships stake out a neighborhood and find that trouble
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: comes in small packages.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Hey, slow down and stop! I can't!
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: Then, all your favorites are back in a brand new movie.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: They're at sea!
• 33:39
  Speaker 9: Maybe we can be rescued!
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: Rescue from Gilligan's Island. Bob Denver and members of the
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: original Gilligan cast. Saturday on NBC.
• 33:51
  Speaker 12: This is Dawn Wells.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: You might remember me, Marianna Gilligan's Island.
• 33:54
  Speaker 9: You are listening to Movie Meltdown.
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: It's time for Sofa Theater.
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: Samuel P.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Fuller, age 24. Linda Mae Jenkins, age 19. Brutally attacked
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: March 3rd, 1946. Howard W. Turner, 29. Emmalou Cook, 17.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Bodies discovered in a wooded area on March 24th. Roy Allen, 17.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Peggy Loomis, 15. Both found dead April 14th in Spring
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Lake Park. Floyd Reed, age 34, murdered in his home
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: on May 3rd.
• 34:36
  Speaker 9: Mrs.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Reed shot twice, but survived. This man's identity is unknown.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: He was believed to be between 30 and 40 years old.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: He wore a white hood and was known only as
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the Phantom Killer. World War II had just ended. In Texarkana, Arkansas,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: boys had come home to their families. Husbands reunited with
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: their wives. It was a happy, peaceful time until the
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: phantom killer struck. For four months, he held an entire
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: city in the icy grip of terror.
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: Now, Charles B.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Pierce brings this incredible, shocking, and true story to the
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: screen in The Town That Dreaded Sundown. Starring Academy Award
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: winner Ben Johnson as Captain J.D. Morales of the Texas Rangers.
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: We got a cold-blooded killer here.
• 35:33
  Speaker 13: A man who nobody sees.
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: A phantom who, so far, hasn't made any mistakes.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Andrew Pryne as Deputy Norman Ramsey of the Texarkana Sheriff's Department.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: The only thing we really do know is that we've
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: got a very strange person on our hands.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: The town that dreaded sundown.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: A true story.
• 36:03
  Speaker 15: There's a disturbance in this one-horse town that's shaking every soul.
• 36:12
  Speaker 15: All the dogs run loose and every man.
• 36:16
  Speaker 9: Is on patrol.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: While the deacons keep us cold With a summon and
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: a worship song There's an evil that walks these moral.
• 36:40
  Speaker 13: Grounds In the town that dreaded sundown.
• 36:55
  Speaker 9: So, we're back.
• 36:58
  Speaker 8: Oh my god, we're back already.
• 37:01
  Speaker 9: This week's Silver Theater feature is The Town That Dreaded Sundown.
• 37:05
  Speaker 8: I honestly don't know the last time I was more disappointed.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: In a movie.
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: Also known as The Film That Dreaded... Plot?
• 37:12
  Speaker 9: Excitement?
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: I was going to say a genre. Is it a comedy?
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: Is it a horror movie?
• 37:22
  Speaker 9: Is it a drama?
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: Is it a procedural?
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: Is it a documentary?
• 37:26
  Speaker 9: Is it a movie? Question mark. The year is 1976.
• 37:32
  Speaker 9: The director is Charles B. Pierce. And they plot, according
• 37:35
  Speaker 9: to IMDb, the story of a hooded berserk killer who
• 37:41
  Speaker 9: terrorized the border town of Texarkana, Arkansas. I thought Texarkana
• 37:47
  Speaker 9: covered it all, but. In 1946, leaving no less than
• 37:51
  Speaker 9: five murder victims in his wake, he was never caught
• 37:56
  Speaker 9: based on one of America's most baffling murder cases. Spoiler alert,
• 38:01
  Speaker 9: we're going to ruin the hell out of this.
• 38:04
  Speaker 8: Did you say it was Arkansas or Texas?
• 38:05
  Speaker 9: According to this, it says Arkansas.
• 38:07
  Speaker 8: It's Texas.
• 38:08
  Speaker 9: Well, even IMDB is wrong about this movie.
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: If it takes place on the Texas-Arkansas border, it could
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: either be in Texas or Arkansas, just like how things are.
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: Either in Kentucky or Indiana, and they call it Kentuckiana.
• 38:23
  Speaker 9: Sometimes they stand in one spot and they're in two
• 38:26
  Speaker 9: places at the same time.
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: There you go. Sometimes we have shit that happens over
• 38:30
  Speaker 7: here that carries on in Louisville. So, yes, either way,
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: big deal. Not that important.
• 38:37
  Speaker 9: Not the least of our worries moving into this.
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: Least of the problems with this movie.
• 38:43
  Speaker 9: See, that's the thing. I've heard about this movie for years.
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: And I've always heard good things.
• 38:48
  Speaker 9: Movie geek, horror geek. It's like, this has been around forever.
• 38:52
  Speaker 9: I always saw the VHS cover. It's another one of
• 38:55
  Speaker 9: those I've been like, I need to get to that.
• 38:57
  Speaker 9: And just hadn't got to. And unfortunately, the reason that
• 39:02
  Speaker 9: brought it to our attention was we just recently, very
• 39:06
  Speaker 9: recently as we're recording this, lost Dawn Wells.
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: Who we love.
• 39:10
  Speaker 8: She was beautiful.
• 39:11
  Speaker 9: She was awesome. She was very nice. And she put
• 39:14
  Speaker 9: up with me asking her weird questions.
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: And she liked my hair.
• 39:17
  Speaker 9: And she touched your hair a lot.
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: She was all up on it. Caught me off guard.
• 39:20
  Speaker 8: All up in my personal space. Anybody else, I would
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: have had a problem with it.
• 39:23
  Speaker 9: Not marrying no she's awesome.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: She can all up in my personal space i don't care.
• 39:28
  Speaker 9: So yes we we i mentioned that online yeah the
• 39:33
  Speaker 9: other day i was like it it's one of those
• 39:34
  Speaker 9: it was a little further but she hadn't been anywhere
• 39:37
  Speaker 9: in our area other than that so we made our
• 39:40
  Speaker 9: trip there specifically to see i don't even know that
• 39:43
  Speaker 9: anybody else was there like it was not a huge
• 39:45
  Speaker 9: show When was this? And I feel like we did
• 39:47
  Speaker 9: not see a ton of other people at this.
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: Did I go?
• 39:51
  Speaker 16: No.
• 39:51
  Speaker 9: No.
• 39:52
  Speaker 8: Oh, okay. Was it 4... 90... Was it 2016?
• 39:57
  Speaker 9: Maybe?
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: I think it was 2016.
• 39:59
  Speaker 9: Something like that. But yeah, we... We made a little
• 40:02
  Speaker 9: extra trip just because Don Wells was coming.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: We hadn't seen her up until that point and we
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: never saw her.
• 40:08
  Speaker 9: No, we never crossed over with her again. It was
• 40:11
  Speaker 9: outside of Nashville, I think. It was a tiny little show.
• 40:14
  Speaker 9: It wasn't even in the city. It was on the
• 40:16
  Speaker 9: outskirts at a county fairgrounds. It was the weirdest show.
• 40:21
  Speaker 9: It was the most.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 40:23
  Speaker 9: It was so... Because it was run by one of
• 40:27
  Speaker 9: the groups that does the normal show. I'm just so
• 40:30
  Speaker 9: used to going into the same hotel or convention center
• 40:33
  Speaker 9: and every room looks the same and they all have
• 40:35
  Speaker 9: the same vendors this was not that show like this
• 40:38
  Speaker 9: was it really it looked like a county fair it
• 40:41
  Speaker 9: was like they had it in like a big open
• 40:44
  Speaker 9: room that i don't know again they probably had like
• 40:47
  Speaker 9: the 4-h club and animals in there the other half
• 40:50
  Speaker 9: of the year or something like it was just such
• 40:52
  Speaker 9: a weird setup and then they didn't even have things
• 40:54
  Speaker 9: sectioned off when they did q and a's it was
• 40:57
  Speaker 9: just off on the side Like, right next to where
• 41:00
  Speaker 9: the vendors were. Like, they didn't have a set. You
• 41:02
  Speaker 9: were just standing there in the middle of the room
• 41:03
  Speaker 9: where they were also doing Q & As. It was
• 41:06
  Speaker 9: just the weirdest layout for anyone I'd ever been to.
• 41:10
  Speaker 9: And yet it was all worth it because Dawn Wells
• 41:12
  Speaker 9: was awesome.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: She was. She was a very kind individual. She was
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: just so sweet. And it's like, you see people on
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: TV and you're like, is that real? Is that person, like,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: is that how the real person is? Or is it
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: just a facade? I get the feeling with her, it
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: was never fake. She always, she just seemed like a genuinely, like,
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: nice person.
• 41:33
  Speaker 9: I think she started out that way and, like, didn't
• 41:36
  Speaker 9: get horribly jaded by the industry, surprisingly, even though, like,
• 41:40
  Speaker 9: even the thing she was most famous for, she didn't
• 41:43
  Speaker 9: get treated great. They were busy trying to, like, work
• 41:46
  Speaker 9: her out of there, or not even put her name
• 41:48
  Speaker 9: in the opening song, or, you know, like... She was,
• 41:52
  Speaker 9: you know, not the center of attention even for the
• 41:54
  Speaker 9: thing that became what she was most famous for. But,
• 41:59
  Speaker 9: I mean, the thing that was so impressive, I think,
• 42:02
  Speaker 9: for me was just the fact that she still cared
• 42:05
  Speaker 9: about that. Like, even though everybody else, even the ones
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: that were okay with it, you know, Bob Denver was
• 42:12
  Speaker 9: kind of, I think after a while probably got sick
• 42:15
  Speaker 9: of it, but he came back around and, like, just
• 42:17
  Speaker 9: kind of realized, you know, people love this show, but, like,
• 42:20
  Speaker 9: Dawn Wells never seemed like she took anything bad from it.
• 42:25
  Speaker 9: She just realized how much it meant to fans and
• 42:28
  Speaker 9: just embraced it and seemed to really enjoy talking to
• 42:31
  Speaker 9: the fans. I don't know. Unlike some other castaways on
• 42:35
  Speaker 9: the island that shall remain nameless.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Fucking Ginger.
• 42:40
  Speaker 9: She was immediately too big for that show. Bad mouthed.
• 42:44
  Speaker 9: It had nothing to do with any of the other
• 42:47
  Speaker 9: actors from it. Never came back for anything. She was
• 42:49
  Speaker 9: just immediately wanted nothing to do with it and was
• 42:52
  Speaker 9: too cool for it. And I'm like, where's your big
• 42:54
  Speaker 9: movie career? So, yeah. Wanted to distance herself from it.
• 42:59
  Speaker 9: For what? I don't know.
• 43:01
  Speaker 8: Distance herself far on out of here. I don't give
• 43:03
  Speaker 8: a shit.
• 43:04
  Speaker 9: So, yeah. Dawn was never like that. Dawn was always
• 43:07
  Speaker 9: super cool and just seemed to appreciate how much everyone
• 43:12
  Speaker 9: else enjoyed the show and her character in general. I
• 43:16
  Speaker 9: think she was so small town and so Americana and
• 43:20
  Speaker 9: so wholesome that, like, I think she realized that she
• 43:23
  Speaker 9: kind of represented that for a lot of people and
• 43:26
  Speaker 9: took pride in that, I think. So, yep. Dawnwell's awesome.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: This movie?
• 43:31
  Speaker 8: And let us to this movie.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: And how much screen time did the Dawnwell's, the glorious,
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: beautiful Marianne have in this movie? Five minutes?
• 43:45
  Speaker 8: Tops.
• 43:47
  Speaker 9: If you cut out the part of the just random
• 43:49
  Speaker 9: shots of a field that she's hiding in.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I would have watched an hour and
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: a half movie of her just brushing her hair.
• 43:56
  Speaker 9: Yeah, we do find her in the house there brushing
• 43:58
  Speaker 9: her hair. And that should have been just on a
• 44:01
  Speaker 9: loop right there.
• 44:02
  Speaker 8: I would have been better than watching this movie.
• 44:06
  Speaker 9: So we've got the nice things we said about Don Wells.
• 44:10
  Speaker 9: If you're a big fan of this movie, this might
• 44:13
  Speaker 9: not be the episode for you. But... I don't know.
• 44:18
  Speaker 9: I just have to call them as I see them.
• 44:20
  Speaker 9: I expected a lot going into this, just because by
• 44:23
  Speaker 9: title and reputation, it was so well-respected. I know tons
• 44:29
  Speaker 9: of people that have put it on their list of
• 44:31
  Speaker 9: favorite horror movies, and I don't get it, really.
• 44:35
  Speaker 8: I don't understand it. I kept wondering to myself, did
• 44:40
  Speaker 8: Mystery Science Theater do this? Did Rift Tracks do this?
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: Because this seems one of those movies.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: that desperately needed to have a Riff Trax edition or
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Mystery Science Theater to make it watchable, to make it enjoyable.
• 44:53
  Speaker 17: Yeah, there's very long, long, long, drawn-out parts between scenes
• 45:02
  Speaker 17: where there's no dialogue.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Or just very long, drawn-out spoken dialogue because they're from Texas.
• 45:10
  Speaker 8: It might take... a while to.
• 45:15
  Speaker 9: Get i don't feel like we had much of that
• 45:17
  Speaker 9: we had a few accents but.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Okay well one guy sounded like a boom hire i
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: couldn't understand half of what he was saying.
• 45:25
  Speaker 9: Well again not the biggest problem we're dealing with.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: Here what do you think is the the Out of
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: the many where it couldn't decide what it wanted to be?
• 45:38
  Speaker 9: That's part of the problem, and that's what I was
• 45:40
  Speaker 9: telling you when we had those long, drawn-out silences. We
• 45:43
  Speaker 9: were discussing... I was like, I mean, we did a
• 45:46
  Speaker 9: whole episode on Legend of Boggy Creek, and Legend of
• 45:49
  Speaker 9: Boggy Creek was his first feature film and is kind
• 45:53
  Speaker 9: of that same thing. Like, it has... And it's not
• 45:55
  Speaker 9: even officially meant to be a regular movie. It's still
• 45:58
  Speaker 9: kind of a documentary... but it's a docudrama because they
• 46:02
  Speaker 9: recreate all these scenes. So it's like, but even then
• 46:06
  Speaker 9: it shifts in tone quite a bit. And like, sometimes
• 46:09
  Speaker 9: it feels like it's a straight up documentary. And then
• 46:13
  Speaker 9: other times it seems like you're just watching a weird
• 46:16
  Speaker 9: backwards movie. So like it, it seems inconsistent.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: I'm like, is this, is this, are you sure this
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: is the movie and not just a documentary? I don't
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: understand what's going on.
• 46:25
  Speaker 9: And that never went away for you.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Never did.
• 46:27
  Speaker 9: I think that was said more than anything in this movie.
• 46:30
  Speaker 9: What is going on? Just us sort of lamenting that
• 46:36
  Speaker 9: the entire film. What is going on right now?
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
• 46:41
  Speaker 9: But yeah, I feel like that's maybe just something Pierce
• 46:44
  Speaker 9: sort of does in general. Like, I don't know. He's, again,
• 46:48
  Speaker 9: just sort of seemed like he wanted to be a
• 46:50
  Speaker 9: director and he started making movies and more power to him.
• 46:53
  Speaker 9: That's cool, but like... I don't know. I was telling you,
• 46:57
  Speaker 9: this one's technically probably a little more polished than that
• 47:00
  Speaker 9: other movie, so I don't know. I think it's just
• 47:08
  Speaker 9: an early filmmaker still trying to find his footing and
• 47:11
  Speaker 9: still trying to figure out the system. It's definitely, you know,
• 47:14
  Speaker 9: I usually don't have a problem with low-budget movies, but
• 47:18
  Speaker 9: this one's definitely a low-budget indie kind of movie, but
• 47:21
  Speaker 9: I don't know. Usually you need a Something to make
• 47:25
  Speaker 9: up for that. I try not to take that into
• 47:28
  Speaker 9: consideration and just go with the story or the performances
• 47:31
  Speaker 9: or something else. But this one's kind of lacking even
• 47:35
  Speaker 9: in most of those areas. So I think that's where
• 47:38
  Speaker 9: it loses me. It's like I don't want to take
• 47:40
  Speaker 9: points off for being low budget. I don't want to
• 47:42
  Speaker 9: take points off for him not being a super highbrow filmmaker.
• 47:46
  Speaker 9: But you have to make up for it somewhere. It
• 47:49
  Speaker 9: has to balance out somehow.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Dude, that fucking mask.
• 47:55
  Speaker 8: That was the most impractical. You're in fucking Texas.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: And you're wearing a... What is it? The baghead man?
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I called him.
• 48:05
  Speaker 9: That's what we were calling him.
• 48:06
  Speaker 8: Baghead man.
• 48:08
  Speaker 9: And now when you wonder where Jason got his idea
• 48:11
  Speaker 9: to be a baghead for a whole movie plus movie
• 48:14
  Speaker 9: and a half.
• 48:14
  Speaker 8: When was the first Jason movie?
• 48:16
  Speaker 9: Two. Two? He wears a bag on his head the
• 48:19
  Speaker 9: whole time. When was that? I guess... 80... 182. This
• 48:24
  Speaker 9: first one's 80, right?
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: I don't remember.
• 48:28
  Speaker 9: To the Googles. But that's the thing. That's what I
• 48:32
  Speaker 9: sort of gave credit for in watching Boggy Creek was
• 48:36
  Speaker 9: like it was so early on and nothing like that
• 48:38
  Speaker 9: had been done before and they really hadn't done a
• 48:41
  Speaker 9: ton of like documenting the cryptids or anything, you know,
• 48:45
  Speaker 9: the Bigfoot kind of stories. So it's like it was
• 48:48
  Speaker 9: sort of ahead of the curve on that. And the
• 48:50
  Speaker 9: way it was doing it was different. So I kind
• 48:52
  Speaker 9: of gave it points for originality. But this one just doesn't... Like,
• 48:56
  Speaker 9: even the stuff it's doing... Like, it gets credit by
• 49:00
  Speaker 9: a lot of horror fans for being such an early slasher.
• 49:02
  Speaker 12: But.
• 49:03
  Speaker 9: Not that I don't always go to this movie. But
• 49:05
  Speaker 9: I even had to check. I was like, whoa, wait.
• 49:07
  Speaker 9: What year was Black Christmas? So Black Christmas is still
• 49:09
  Speaker 9: two years before this. So... It's still not, like, the
• 49:13
  Speaker 9: earliest version of what it's trying to do. It's a
• 49:17
  Speaker 9: little earlier than a lot of the slasher... that got
• 49:20
  Speaker 9: way more famous but I still feel like even those
• 49:23
  Speaker 9: are way more entertaining than.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: This one yeah I was I guess the most entertaining
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: was the when they were using fucking spark plug as bait.
• 49:38
  Speaker 7: Oh god.
• 49:40
  Speaker 9: A disturbing scene. A couple of them, actually.
• 49:44
  Speaker 7: Well, who's Sparkplug?
• 49:46
  Speaker 9: Your favorite character. The world's worst driver.
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: World's worst driver.
• 49:51
  Speaker 8: Who the fuck keeps giving this guy the keys?
• 49:53
  Speaker 9: Well, first he couldn't even find them when they were
• 49:55
  Speaker 9: on a sign as big as the wall that said
• 49:58
  Speaker 9: car keys.
• 49:59
  Speaker 8: And then were then numbered. Good fucking God.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that fucking mask.
• 50:07
  Speaker 8: It's like the eye holes were like the size of
• 50:09
  Speaker 8: a nickel.
• 50:10
  Speaker 9: So yes, Friday the 13th is, the original one is 1980.
• 50:15
  Speaker 9: And as I suspected, they quickly followed that up. So yep,
• 50:19
  Speaker 9: 81 was the second one. So the second one, he
• 50:21
  Speaker 9: is Baghead Jason. Not the coolest look he has. I
• 50:25
  Speaker 9: guess that would be Jason X.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Where he goes to space?
• 50:29
  Speaker 9: When he goes to space and he gets that cool
• 50:31
  Speaker 9: silver shiny super space look.
• 50:32
  Speaker 8: Awful, but yet I'd rather watch that.
• 50:36
  Speaker 9: Hey, a lot of people love that one.
• 50:38
  Speaker 8: Where they dip.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: Somebody's head in the... Where they freeze their head.
• 50:42
  Speaker 9: Liquid nitrogen.
• 50:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and it shatters.
• 50:46
  Speaker 9: That also has the best kill ever, though. Sleeping Bag Girl,
• 50:49
  Speaker 9: come on. That is maybe the best Jason kill in
• 50:52
  Speaker 9: the entire run of the series.
• 50:53
  Speaker 8: Which one was that?
• 50:54
  Speaker 9: He puts the girl in the sleeping bag and just
• 50:56
  Speaker 9: swings her around and cracks her into a tree.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: That was a couple different movies, wasn't it?
• 51:00
  Speaker 9: That one, the most... Because they.
• 51:01
  Speaker 8: Did it in the remake with Jared Petalecki.
• 51:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah, they did that too. But again, that was after
• 51:06
  Speaker 9: Jason X. They're tributing their own series, I guess. But yeah,
• 51:10
  Speaker 9: so I mean, again, it's doing it before Jason was
• 51:13
  Speaker 9: doing it. And I'm assuming Jason's, the creators of Jason
• 51:18
  Speaker 9: are sort of doing a tribute to this movie, which again, yeah,
• 51:22
  Speaker 9: it's an odd choice. So impractical.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, that fabric didn't look even remotely breathable.
• 51:27
  Speaker 9: I mean. No, not at all. Which is why he
• 51:29
  Speaker 9: couldn't breathe. He was like huffing and puffing and the
• 51:32
  Speaker 9: whole mask was moving because he's trying to not breathe.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, that's me, like Kroger.
• 51:40
  Speaker 9: This is an interesting time to watch this movie, as
• 51:42
  Speaker 9: we all wander around with masks on our face. We
• 51:45
  Speaker 9: should go for the full head mask.
• 51:47
  Speaker 8: Say most of us not killing people.
• 51:49
  Speaker 9: Eh, sometimes. Most of us. A different way.
• 51:52
  Speaker 7: We're just infecting each other.
• 51:53
  Speaker 9: It's a different version of killing people. But yeah, we
• 51:56
  Speaker 9: should all go full head mask from here on out.
• 51:59
  Speaker 8: I just wish this movie would have figured out what
• 52:00
  Speaker 8: it wanted to be. Yeah.
• 52:02
  Speaker 9: It does enter that really weird tone. Like right there
• 52:06
  Speaker 9: when they hand, well, they don't hand, when finally Sparkplug
• 52:12
  Speaker 9: gets some keys. Or even that first walk out, like
• 52:15
  Speaker 9: you were calling it out for the music. That music
• 52:18
  Speaker 9: is just so ridiculous.
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: It started right at that point. She's like, what is
• 52:22
  Speaker 7: this music trying to be? Because it almost sounds like
• 52:24
  Speaker 7: Benny Hill music. And I was like, well, just wait.
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: Sparkplug's going to do something wacky.
• 52:30
  Speaker 9: Later, I was doing yakety sacks while they were driving
• 52:33
  Speaker 9: the cars. And that made it so much more fun, really.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: That was just a big old mess. It was just like,
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: could we get any more slapsticky?
• 52:40
  Speaker 9: Yeah, we could have. At least then it would have
• 52:43
  Speaker 9: committed to doing something. But it tries for a tone
• 52:47
  Speaker 9: that's kind of slapstick, but never even delivers comedic, really.
• 52:51
  Speaker 9: It's just like... a sad attempt at it, but they
• 52:54
  Speaker 9: don't even, we don't get a pratfall, we don't get
• 52:57
  Speaker 9: somebody get hit in the face with a pie, like,
• 52:58
  Speaker 9: we don't even go to the standard comedy.
• 53:01
  Speaker 8: We do get Sparkplug doing a fucking Dukes of Hazzard
• 53:03
  Speaker 8: into the pond.
• 53:04
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's still not even a really impressive, like, you know,
• 53:08
  Speaker 9: Duke boys would get some air.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: Or you'd have that mid, and it would, like, pause.
• 53:13
  Speaker 9: Freeze for the commercial break. Yeah. And then we'd come
• 53:15
  Speaker 9: back and wait and be like, well, them Duke boys
• 53:17
  Speaker 9: is in trouble now.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: Although we did get a couple slow-mo, like, When the
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: car's sliding around, because, gee, a mini fucking Christmas.
• 53:25
  Speaker 9: Yeah, let's, I don't know what we need to attack
• 53:27
  Speaker 9: on that one. Is it the cars in this town?
• 53:30
  Speaker 9: Or the roads just made out of banana peels? I
• 53:32
  Speaker 9: don't know.
• 53:33
  Speaker 7: It's the cars back then. And the fact that the
• 53:35
  Speaker 7: roads were mostly gravel.
• 53:37
  Speaker 9: That's the thing. I'm watching some of these, and I'm like,
• 53:40
  Speaker 9: this is, yeah, there's a couple of times when they're
• 53:42
  Speaker 9: going down these dirt roads, and I'm like, you guys
• 53:44
  Speaker 9: are idiots. Like, look at your bald tires. You're driving
• 53:47
  Speaker 9: this big, heavy-ass vehicle. down some road that has no
• 53:51
  Speaker 9: gravel no asphalt at all in the whole damn town
• 53:55
  Speaker 9: and like yeah they're just going down a muddy hill
• 53:57
  Speaker 9: somewhere because it's raining all the time i'm like it's
• 53:59
  Speaker 9: your own fault when you get stuck and die.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: It rains all the time in japan too.
• 54:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah apparently hey he'd been there he knows i.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: Didn't know that was one of their uh cultural facts
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: is that it always oh.
• 54:12
  Speaker 9: Yeah all the time seattle and japan yep i'll be
• 54:16
  Speaker 9: damned Learn something new every day. See, this is a documentary.
• 54:20
  Speaker 9: You're learning stuff.
• 54:22
  Speaker 8: I don't like the things I'm learning.
• 54:24
  Speaker 9: I don't like to learn. So we already kind of
• 54:29
  Speaker 9: called him out that first time around because this is
• 54:31
  Speaker 9: supposed to be a big slasher-y kind of movie, but
• 54:35
  Speaker 9: his first two people he doesn't even kill.
• 54:37
  Speaker 7: No, he doesn't.
• 54:38
  Speaker 9: He's a fledgling killer and hasn't figured out how to
• 54:41
  Speaker 9: deliver the murder part of it yet.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: Practice, practice, practice.
• 54:44
  Speaker 9: And he does. The only, that's the only thing I'll
• 54:48
  Speaker 9: give it. It's like when he's like attacking them, like
• 54:51
  Speaker 9: it's pretty brutal. Like it's way more. gruesome than the
• 54:55
  Speaker 9: whole rest of this movie like.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: It does until it gets ridiculous.
• 54:59
  Speaker 9: When we get to that scene in a minute but
• 55:00
  Speaker 9: other than that every other time it gets it turns
• 55:03
  Speaker 9: and it gets really dark and it is one of
• 55:05
  Speaker 9: those i'm like okay i can see these scenes why
• 55:08
  Speaker 9: some of the people i know that are really into
• 55:10
  Speaker 9: horror like this movie if the rest of the movie
• 55:12
  Speaker 9: was this.
• 55:13
  Speaker 8: Tone then we get spark plug again oh lord.
• 55:17
  Speaker 9: No i thought you were going to Then it takes
• 55:21
  Speaker 9: a turn that I'm like, I can't take this movie seriously.
• 55:24
  Speaker 9: I don't know that I was before, but when we
• 55:27
  Speaker 9: hit the trombone scene, I was just like, what am
• 55:31
  Speaker 9: I supposed to do with this movie? I can't take
• 55:33
  Speaker 9: you seriously now. First of all, because he was the
• 55:37
  Speaker 9: only darkness you were bringing to it, and now he's
• 55:40
  Speaker 9: doing silly bullshit.
• 55:42
  Speaker 8: What did he have in his pants?
• 55:44
  Speaker 9: Good Lord. Take your pick. He had a lot of things.
• 55:47
  Speaker 7: What did he not carry with him? He had a pipe.
• 55:51
  Speaker 9: Pipe?
• 55:52
  Speaker 7: He had a silenced revolver. He had a knife. And
• 55:58
  Speaker 7: he had a roll of tape.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: Hold on, this is sounding like your EDC.
• 56:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.
• 56:02
  Speaker 9: And over on the side, a batarang. Grappling hook. Lightsaber.
• 56:08
  Speaker 9: We covered all the different things he might have on
• 56:10
  Speaker 9: his utility belt.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: A long sword.
• 56:13
  Speaker 9: Shark repellent. Some days you just can't get rid of
• 56:17
  Speaker 9: a bomb.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: Because he would just stop and then just start pulling
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: shit out of his pants. I was like, what's going
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: to come out now?
• 56:24
  Speaker 8: What kind of movie is this?
• 56:28
  Speaker 9: That I wondered a few times too. That was mostly
• 56:31
  Speaker 9: just those guys in the car together.
• 56:32
  Speaker 8: But that was the second best part of this entire movie.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: That was the part where I was just like, this
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: is funny.
• 56:39
  Speaker 8: For, like, three minutes.
• 56:40
  Speaker 9: Because it kept going. Like, it got weird and uncomfortable.
• 56:43
  Speaker 9: And then it continued on.
• 56:45
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 56:46
  Speaker 9: And we're like, okay, they're done with that silly joke. Whoa,
• 56:48
  Speaker 9: all right. This guy's just continuing to be a creep.
• 56:51
  Speaker 9: All right.
• 56:52
  Speaker 12: Yep.
• 56:52
  Speaker 7: Creepy, creepy.
• 56:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah.
• 56:55
  Speaker 9: I mean, I'd feel a little worse, except it's Sparkplug,
• 56:57
  Speaker 9: and he's already a bastard.
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: Can't drive.
• 57:02
  Speaker 8: But should we go back to the trombone?
• 57:03
  Speaker 9: Because, I mean... Oh, my God.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: That.
• 57:07
  Speaker 8: I was just furious.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: I was very furious that, like, okay, when he first
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: gets the trombone, he does blow out a few notes
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: on the trombone.
• 57:17
  Speaker 9: Yep, yep, I heard it.
• 57:17
  Speaker 8: So we have proof that he can, in fact, blow air.
• 57:21
  Speaker 9: He doesn't seem to talk much, but he can blow
• 57:23
  Speaker 9: enough air to make a trombone make a little bit
• 57:25
  Speaker 9: of noise.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: And I'm wondering about the factual accuracy. I mean, I
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: know the story is loosely based.
• 57:32
  Speaker 9: Everything else is made up, but that trombone. Trombone part
• 57:36
  Speaker 9: is straight up fact.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: But then when he actually goes to the murdering where
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: he's actually doing the blowing on the trombone.
• 57:43
  Speaker 9: Trombone.
• 57:44
  Speaker 8: The trombone.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: When the murdering is happening, I would have been more
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: happy if it had actually made sad trombone sounds as
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: he stabbed her.
• 57:52
  Speaker 9: That's what I said as we were watching. I was like, ooh,
• 57:54
  Speaker 9: sad trombone now.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: But then there was no sound coming out at that point.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: And then my other concern. or aggravation, all these dead
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: bodies that they are finding have bite marks.
• 58:08
  Speaker 9: I thought that as soon as we got to the
• 58:10
  Speaker 9: second time, I was just watching him do this, and
• 58:12
  Speaker 9: I'm like, he never has that off, like ever, at
• 58:15
  Speaker 9: any point in this movie. Granted, I guess, for our sake,
• 58:19
  Speaker 9: to preserve the mystery, but I'm just kind of like...
• 58:23
  Speaker 9: Since you've decided to be a mask killer, it's also
• 58:26
  Speaker 9: odd that the thing you like to do is bite
• 58:28
  Speaker 9: people when you have a mask that covers your mouth.
• 58:31
  Speaker 8: You need like a zipper face mask.
• 58:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and it's like knotted with a big piece of rope.
• 58:35
  Speaker 9: It's not easy to just lift up and go to town.
• 58:37
  Speaker 8: Maybe he unties it and then ties it back and
• 58:41
  Speaker 8: it's a whole ordeal.
• 58:44
  Speaker 9: He needs a gimp mask so he can just get
• 58:47
  Speaker 9: it out there.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: It would be more sensitive and more practical. This is
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: the most impractical serial killer I've ever heard of. I
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: rate him like a negative three on the serial killer
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: chart because he did not think this out.
• 59:01
  Speaker 9: Well, and he is very unusual for a serial killer
• 59:05
  Speaker 9: because he doesn't follow a pattern. I mean, it's him and... and.
• 59:11
  Speaker 8: Ramirez never followed a pattern.
• 59:13
  Speaker 9: No, it was the other big Night Stalker. No, not
• 59:15
  Speaker 9: Night Stalker. The other guy.
• 59:16
  Speaker 8: Ramirez.
• 59:16
  Speaker 9: The one they never caught. Oh, Zodiac. Yeah, Zodiac. It's
• 59:20
  Speaker 9: like him and Zodiac. That was what kind of kept
• 59:23
  Speaker 9: Zodiac going was he didn't follow the pattern that so
• 59:25
  Speaker 9: many other stereotypical serial killers did. But this guy smacks
• 59:30
  Speaker 9: him with a pipe, gnaws on him a little bit,
• 59:33
  Speaker 9: shoots him with a gun. He's got a knife on
• 59:35
  Speaker 9: a trombone. You take your pick. He does kind of
• 59:37
  Speaker 9: whatever he wants. Which becomes sort of the gimmicky part
• 59:40
  Speaker 9: of slashers later. But they're not trying to be an
• 59:44
  Speaker 9: actual serial killer movie when Jason picks up whatever random
• 59:48
  Speaker 9: thing is going to be funny when he impales somebody
• 59:50
  Speaker 9: with it. But yeah, I don't know. To still try
• 59:53
  Speaker 9: to be... I mean, is that the way the case went?
• 59:56
  Speaker 9: Was he really just shooting people half the time?
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: I have not up all my details. I know I've
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: heard about the case several times before. And I knew
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: it was related to the movie, but I've listened to
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: so many podcasts about so many murderers.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 9: You're one of those dorks now.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: I am.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 8: I mean, I don't listen to us, but I listen
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 8: to like.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 9: Well, of course not.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: But yeah, there are so many that I've listened to
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: over the year and a half that I've been listening
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: to podcasts.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 9: He finally came around. Eh.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: Just some. 90% of all I listen to podcasts about
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: dead people and reviews of young adult horror books like
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: Fear Street and Christopher Pike.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 9: None of these surprise me.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: No, they should not.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 9: I would have seen you going right for those areas.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 8: I do.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: But similar to the movie, they never found... the killer
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: who was doing these crimes. They might have had some
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: potential suspects, but nothing was ever solved.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 9: In the context of this movie, every few minutes somebody
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 9: was giving themselves up as the killer. I was like,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 9: is that how these work? Sometimes Zodiac is one of
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 9: those that everybody kept writing in and calling and pretending
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 9: like they were.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 8: They finally broke the Zodiac cipher.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 9: It's a little late.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but still, I mean, that's siphoning.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 9: They finally get through it and we're just like, you
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 9: should have drank your old tea. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 8: But yeah, it's been how many years now? I don't
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 8: even remember.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: It wasn't even anything really like, ooh, ah, like groundbreaking,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: but they finally busted the Zodiac code.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 9: It's just like, ha ha, you'll never catch me.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: Pretty much.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 9: That bastard.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 8: I would not recommend this movie.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 9: But it's perfect for New Year's. They played the one
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 9: song that's a New Year's song. We're just crossing over
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 9: into this New Year. We get this movie where they
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 9: play that song that nobody knows the words to.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 8: This is not a good way to kick off the year.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: This is not a great New Year movie.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 9: Sad Trombone.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: Sad Trombone. About halfway through, I'm like, can we just
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: turn it off and review some Twilight Zone episodes instead?
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 9: That is usually what we're watching at this juncture.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 8: And then, like, every ten minutes, hey, you know what
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 8: this movie doesn't have enough of?
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: Marianne.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 9: Every woman that would walk by, what would you say?
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 8: That's not Marianne.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 9: I'm not kidding. That's what happened while we were watching this.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 9: Every woman that walked by, you know what she's not? Marianne.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 8: It wasn't even every woman.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 9: That guy in a dress? Not Marianne.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: I was beginning to wonder, are you sure Marianne's in
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: this movie?
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 10: I was like, no, but I'm pretty sure I talked
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 10: to her about it, so maybe she just politely went
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 10: along like, yeah, whatever, I'm in that.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 8: She would have been.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: Way nicer than that. Don't give her a pissy voice.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 9: That's the thing. She was so nice. She pretended like
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 9: she was in this movie. And then we got to her.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 9: But it's like two-thirds of the way over by then.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 9: It's like, really?
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 8: And then she's only in it for like a... Oh
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 8: my gosh.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 9: But do you blame her? She worked for a day
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 9: and a half. And she was out of there. And
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 9: as I said, as she was crawling away, trying to
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 9: get away from the killer, my voiceover was, must get
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 9: out of this movie.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 8: But let's just.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 9: Right there with her.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: She was gorgeous, though.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 9: Still looks good.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: Still looked good up to last week.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 9: I don't know. I hadn't seen her when she got sick.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 9: But right before that, she was still doing MeTV ads
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 9: and she still looked good.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 8: We saw her, what, four years ago?
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 9: And she was still, you know. She always looked good.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 8: Unlike Ginger.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 7: That's true.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: Well, nobody on that show aged well.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 8: The Professor. How....
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 9: I mean, Bob was probably the best of the bunch
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 9: because he never got heavy. He just got gray hair
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 9: really fast. But he always kind of looked like himself.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 8: Because the professor was hot.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 9: The professor got heavy, though.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: He did. He was on several episodes of The Twilight Zone.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: We could have talked about those when we were not
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: watching this movie.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 9: We could have also watched Winterhawk. She's in that.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: I think she's an Indian.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 9: She might have been Indian.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: You don't know her, but.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: He's as Indian as apple pie.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 9: It does make me... Coconut cream pie. But... It does
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 9: make me wonder if she was just like.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: Where did they get the rest of the ingredients? I
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: understand there's coconut on the island, but where's the cream?
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: Did they have milk? Because, I mean, where did they.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 9: An island cow, you know.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: Did I miss that episode? Because I don't remember an
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: island cow.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 9: You milk the monkey that lives on the island. That's fine, right?
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 8: Talking about Gilligan like that.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 9: But, yeah, it makes me wonder if she was just, like,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 9: friends with the director. Because she barely, like, she didn't
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 9: work in a ton of movies. But she's in Winterhawk,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 9: which is his movie in between. Like, it's after Boggy Creek,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 9: but before this one. And then she also comes back
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 9: for this one. So, like.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 8: Is she a glutton for punishment?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 9: I guess. I was like, like, she knows he's not making, like,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 9: highbrow movies. So, like, what?
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 7: I guess.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 9: Did she do, like, anything.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 9: She really didn't want to do movies is what I
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 9: heard recently. Like when they were doing kind of a recap, she, she,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 9: I think as she got older, she really liked stage
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 9: work better. And like, she even came here like right,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 9: I think before we saw her, I think like six
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 9: or eight months before that I saw her on our
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 9: local news talking about a play that I don't know
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 9: if she was, I think she did have a part
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 9: in it, but she was also just kind of involved
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 9: in like theater in general and was like working in
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 9: a bunch of different avenues. It seemed like, but yeah,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 9: she came, through town doing some sort of play that
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 9: was touring so i think she worked continuously doing like
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 9: stage work as she got older but yeah was not
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 9: she did a lot of tv when she was younger
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 9: did a little bit after gilligan as well but then
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 9: kind of got out of that and then never really
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 9: that's why as i talked to her like i had
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 9: a few movies to go to and like for the
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 9: most part it was it was coming out of tv
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 9: and going to stage work so yeah she didn't seem
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 9: like she wanted to do movies Maybe this is why.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 9: She's like, I did two with this guy, and you
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 9: know what? I think I'm just going to stick to
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 9: the stage.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: I did watch. I don't know how long ago it
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: was recorded, but it was an interview with her, and
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: they asked her what she wanted to be remembered for.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: Out of everything she's done in her life, what do
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: you want to be remembered for?
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 9: Your legacy, yeah.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 8: She said, Just for being a kind person.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 9: Something a lot of people in the world and or
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 9: this country could learn something from. Yeah. We are not
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 9: in kind times. Like, we probably could all learn something
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 9: from Marianne. That was her book, even when I talked
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 9: to her. Like, that, like, what would Marianne do kind
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 9: of approach to, like, in this ridiculous life that we're in. Like,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 9: just in general, her character was always kind of nice
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 9: and went about things the best possible way.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 9: So, yeah, it was an approach to life in general
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 9: more than... I think that's part of what she carried
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 9: with her, too.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 8: Well, that is still on the interview.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: They asked her, he's like, out of all the things
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: you've done in your life, what are you the most
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: proud of? What is, you know, what do you sit
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: back and be like, that's what I'm proud of? I
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: was able to take care of my mom.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 8: And I'm just like.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 8: It wasn't like, well, I did this, I.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: Did this, you know, I... I was in Winterhawk, dammit!
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: I could take care of my mom when she needed me.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: That was the thing she was most proud of in
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: her life, that she could do these things and take
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: care of her mom. Because she never had any kids.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: She never.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 9: Yeah, because I looked up lately, because up until recently,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 9: I was still thinking I had a shot. But she
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 9: got married briefly, I think in the 60s, and it
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 9: didn't work out. And she said after that, she just...
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 9: Didn't find the right person. Guess it's not for me.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 9: She just wasn't married the whole rest of her life.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 9: I was just like, that's weird.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 8: Did she ever have any scandals?
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 9: Did she call me?
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 8: I mean, what the hell? I don't remember there ever
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 8: being any Don Will scandals.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 9: I mean, she was mailing some weed that one time.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 9: I think that's the closest. I mean, who isn't into
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 9: smoking weed at this point? Again, that's the one thing
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 9: that everybody's just come to terms with as time's gone on.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 9: Be like, yeah, that's what people do.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 8: Dawn Wells sleeps with married man, breaks up household. There
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 8: wasn't because that didn't seem.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 9: She wasn't that kind of person. She was just cool.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: At least on the side that we know. I mean.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 9: As far as I'm concerned, I'm taking that few minutes
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 9: I talked to her into account. That's all I got
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 9: to go on and she was awesome. All you need. Yep,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 9: that's all I need. She was nice to me. She
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 9: was nice to you.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: She liked my hair. Those few minutes in our entire
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: lifetime of watching Gilligan's Island.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah, every moment she's on Gilligan's Island, she's pretty damn cool.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: When she's trying to crawl away, must get back to
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: the island.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 8: Please, please.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 9: They're making another one of those damn movies next week.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 9: I just got to get out of here and get
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 9: back in one of those. Got to go hang out
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 9: with the Harlem Globetrotters. Which is an awesome movie, by
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 9: the way.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: Maybe we should have watched that one.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 9: Nope, too bad. We've already done that one. I told you,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 9: you've got the other two you can cover. We already
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 9: did the Harlem Globetrotters when I hung out with that
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 9: Harlem Globetrotter.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: How was Mary Ann never in a Twilight Zone episode?
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: Everybody was. How did she miss it?
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 9: She was in plenty of other stuff at that time, though.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 9: Because I was looking at the list the other day.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: Like how we just keep coming back to Marianne because
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: otherwise this movie just sucks. There's not really much else.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 9: To go on. That's the problem. I tried to keep
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 9: track of stuff I wanted to talk about and we've
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 9: attacked the few things I had, but I'm like, there's.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 7: Just not much to it.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 9: It's a lot of driving around on dirt roads.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 8: Badly.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah, barely staying on the roads. And then people sort
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 9: of They're not even figuring out the mystery, really. They're
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 9: just listing off things that happened. And then, yeah, at
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 9: the end, they're just like, and he got away. Like, well, yeah,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 9: these police suck.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: But then apparently he went and saw the movie about himself.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you think the whole time he was just like, bullshit,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 9: that's not how this happened at all. Like, sir, would
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 9: you please stop yelling in the theater and take that
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 9: damn bag off your head?
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 8: You'd think that'd be kind of inconspicuous. Conspicuous?
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: I got it wrong. Just walking around with a mask
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: on your head going to the movies.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 7: That's what was so weird, too.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 9: It's not like it was just like, okay, I'm about
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 9: to murder these people. I'm going to put it on.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 9: When they're following him there, he doesn't know they're there.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 9: He's just standing out in the woods looking at trees
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 9: with a bag on his head. What the hell are
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 9: you doing? Why would you just be walking around? That's
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 9: why I was watching it going to those He's in
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 9: line in front of you at the grocery with that
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 9: bag on his head. He's going to buy a magazine
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 9: and got a bag on his head.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: Oh no, that's not me. That's the other guy with
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: a bag on his head.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 9: How dare you? I don't even know that other guy
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 9: with the bag on his head. I don't know. It
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 9: just didn't make any sense. Even the reasoning for it.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 9: What the fuck is this thing doing now? This is
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 9: why I need a real computer phone.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: Music worked better than anything that was in the movie
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: then when they needed music there wasn't any and it
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: was just a lot of awkward just.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 9: Weird silence that we had to fill with making stupid
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 9: comments about it we mystery scienced our own theater.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 8: I'm telling you Crow wouldn't fucking what's the other robot's
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 8: name Tom Servo yeah that's what else we watched some
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 8: mystery science theater We watched something about the Fu Manchu guy.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 7: God, that was fucking weird.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 9: That was so weird. I think the most important thing
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 9: we learned during this movie... Hold on.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: You're implying we learned something.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 7: Oh, we did.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 9: We learned what hoop cheese is. Because we saw it
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 9: on the side of the grocery and we're all going,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 9: hoop cheese?
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 7: What the hell is hoop cheese?
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 9: And I'm like, oh, it's going to be a second
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 9: before one of you looks in. I'm like, I'm not
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 9: even going to reach for my phone because I know
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 9: one of you, within 10 seconds, there you are.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 8: Who would you have put your money on? Would you
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 8: have thought it would have been me?
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 9: I mean, usually it's you, but I think Jay was
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 9: pretty bored. He was like, please, anything I can do
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 9: to not watch this movie.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 7: I'm talking to one of my friends right now. During
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 7: the movie, I was talking to him right now.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 9: You're like, this movie's lame. Hold on. Gotta look up
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 9: Hoop Cheese.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 7: Nah, he doesn't know. Dude, what's Hoop Cheese?
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 9: Tell me about it. What the fuck are you talking about?
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 9: You're not watching that Baghead movie, are you?
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 8: No.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 9: Yes, I am. Trying to escape like Mary.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 8: But then they made like a meta sequel to this.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 8: It's like, I don't know.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: I don't even understand.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 8: I tried to look up the premise.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: Of it and I just ended up being more confused
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: than anything. Other than it's got that one chick that
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: I think... Either you interviewed her or her sister for
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: the podcast, and I can't remember.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 9: It could be anybody or their sister.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 8: Well, who has a famous sister?
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 6: Lots of people.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 8: A Cartwright, maybe? Cartwright!
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 9: Veronica is the one I talked to. Angela is the
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 9: one from Lost in Space. So is Angela in it?
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 8: I don't know. My phone is way over there.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 9: This is why Jay won the quick draw.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 8: On the hoop cheese.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 7: On the hoop cheese.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 8: High five for hoop cheese. Don't leave me hanging, dude.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 9: I'm trying to. I'm typing.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 7: Trying to make a deal here.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 9: That really was the most interesting thing we learned.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 8: 2014.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 9: I was trying to figure out. I knew it was
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 9: pretty recent that that new version of The Town That
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 9: Dreaded Sundown came out.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 8: Can we just do a review of the description from 2014?
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 8: IMDB because I don't want to have to watch it.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 11: 65 years after a mass serial killer terrorized a small town, Texarkana,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 11: the so-called Moonlight Murders begin again. Is it a copycat
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 11: or something even more sinister? A lonely high school girl
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 11: may be the key to catching him.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 9: So if you want us to watch that one, you
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 9: write in and let us know.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: You'll have to give me at least 20 bucks though
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: because I am not watching this shit.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 9: Hey, if you join the club, you can put it
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 9: on the list and For some of us bastards to
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 9: watch it, you'll probably get out of the Misty, so.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 8: You'll be okay.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, unless you directly PayPal me 20 bucks.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 9: We are fine with bribes, by the way, just so
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 9: you know.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 8: Where the hell is the cast?
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: 20 bucks, I will watch and talk shit about.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 8: Any movie that you want.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 9: She's not joking.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 8: Except for The Room. I refuse to go there.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 9: That's fine oh i've seen it i've seen it a
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 9: couple of times i'll.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: Watch it again which one the one with the brie
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: lawson or the other one.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 9: I don't know i mean i've seen the brie lawson
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 9: one too but no i've seen the other one at
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 9: least twice.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: Now yeah i have no desire to see that movie i.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 9: Saw the one in the in the theater with one
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 9: of the stars greg was there and the best part
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 9: was after the movie greg had like the screenplay from
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 9: it which if you've seen the room you know it's
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 9: brilliant So he takes it and picks people out of
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 9: the audience to do live reading recreations of the scenes
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 9: with that original dialogue. That was amazing. I was surprised
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 9: how impressive some of those people were and how good
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 9: they were doing his readings.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: There's another movie I refuse to watch, too.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 9: Okay, which one?
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 8: What is it, boyfriend?
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: What movie do I refuse to watch?
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 7: Galaxy Quest.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 9: I'm the minority. I don't think you're missing much. Everybody
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 9: else has come to love that movie.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: That one's going to cost you $ 75.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 12: 50.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 9: There you go. See, she has a price. She'll do it.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 9: You're just going to have to kick in a little more.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 8: And I won't be happy about it, and you will know.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 9: And yes, Veronica Cartwright is in the remake and or
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 9: sort of sequel to The Town That Dreaded Sunday.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounded more like it was a sequel, not
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: really a remake.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah, kind of. But yet, they gave it the same title.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 9: What do you think you are, The Thing?
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: I bought that today on Blu-ray.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 9: Right there. Which one?
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 12: The prequel?
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 8: No, the good one.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 9: The for real one. I'm okay with the prequel-y thing.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 9: It's got its problems, but most of those were budgetary
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 9: and it wasn't their fault. Which I guess you could
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 9: say about this movie sometimes.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: I'm not even sure a bigger budget would have helped
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: this movie.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 9: No, I don't think so. I mean, again, there's so
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 9: much at the core. Like, whatever writing was there is
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 9: part of the problem. Trombone. There's just so many problems
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 9: that are just deep-rooted in this that I don't think... Again,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 9: I think you'd have to redo everything. Like, you'd have
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 9: to bring in probably a different director. You'd have to
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 9: totally rewrite the script. You'd have to have real actors.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 9: No offense to these guys, but I mean, you can
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 9: still see these are low end.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 8: You'd have to have somebody score the movie.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it needs a for real score, not the sad
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 9: trombone that that is. The town that dreaded the sad drum.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 7: Phone.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: Why did it not make noise when he was stabbing
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: her with it?
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 7: It's stupid because he made noise the first time.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 9: Why then?
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 7: First time he picked it up. First of all, it
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 7: would have been funnier if it had made noise.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 8: The knife wasn't that big. He didn't secure it very tight.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 9: Not really, no.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: He was not applying enough force to actually.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 9: Not to do much damage. He'd break the skin, but
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know if he'd kill her that way.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: Even if she would have only bled out, it would
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: have taken more than 15 seconds. Because none of those
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: seem like crucial hits.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 9: Right? But then he stopped and gnawed on her, right?
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 9: We never saw him actually bite anybody. Yeah, I know,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 9: because he had a stupid bag on his face. And
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 9: that part at least I get. I mean, sure, we're
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 9: all into biting on stomachs. We get that. That makes sense.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: Maybe okay follow me here he's carrying around those little
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: chomping teeth like the wind.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 9: Up yeah like the ones that are sitting over there
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 9: yes i have a pair at home too.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 8: But like life size like people like the.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 9: Chattering teeth yes novelty classics chattering.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: Teeth or he was a dentist and he had those
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: like dentist like.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 9: Dental teeth Now we're going back to the Rudolph special.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 9: I want to be a dentist.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 8: Which, by the way.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 9: And chew on women's stomachs. That guy seemed a little
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 9: serial killer anyway, our dentist friend there from the old
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 9: Rudolph special.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 8: So what did you think of the.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah. You guys, while you were gone, during our
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 9: break there, before we started the movie, I also got
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 9: to see a sample of... Of what the hell is
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 9: the name of this thing?
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: Is it Frosty and Rudolph's Christmas in July special?
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 9: Yeah. I watched a snippet or two of the special.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 9: It is totally Rankin and Bass. And what the fuck?
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 8: I just....
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 9: I remember the bad guy enough that I'm like, maybe
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 9: it was on at some point when I was a kid.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 9: And then they came to their senses and went, oh, God,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 9: we can't show this every year. And then they just
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 9: never played it again.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: How awesome was the Snow Dragons?
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 9: Snow Dragons were awesome. And the fucking snakes.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 7: Awesome.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 9: Rudolph, kind of a badass. He, like, comes out there
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 9: calling the dude out. He's like, come on, let's go.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 9: Fights off some snakes. Like, Rudolph's a badass.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 8: In the fucking sky.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 9: Rudolph is awesome. So that's the takeaway, is Rudolph's super cool.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: And the bad guy's like, come at me if you can.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 8: And he takes him down with, like, one fucking headbutt.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 7: I'm like, I mean, Rudolph's pretty damn cool. Fucking breadbasket.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 7: Right in his giblets. He gets him right there, and
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 7: he's like, oof. He loses the hat.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 14: And then rudolph's got the hat but it's too big
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 14: for his head so he just kind of looks dorky
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 14: and his nose starts to light up and he gets
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 14: a snowflake print back on his uh so.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 9: Yeah it's it's something i might have to maybe it'll
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 9: be one of those things i pretend like i'm gonna
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 9: watch next christmas and then i Look at it and go,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 9: what's the running time on this?
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 7: Two fucking hours.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 8: Well, it's two and a half with commercials.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 9: Two and a half hours with commercials. Yeah, it was
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 9: on the commercial special.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 7: With a fuck ton of singing. Oh, my God. It's
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 7: got so much fucking singing in it. Half the song. Well,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 7: almost all the songs.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 18: We should have just watched this movie instead because it
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 18: was fucking horrible.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 9: Next holiday special. They're not that good. Right in now.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 9: Misty's got a price tag attached, I'm sure. It is.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 7: It's so bad. It's like every single thing that happens,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 7: they're like, let's sing a song. We just got the tickets.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 7: We just got the tickets.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 9: I don't even remember the tickets. What are you talking about?
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 9: I don't know, but you brought them up a couple
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 9: of times. Don't you remember?
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 8: No.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 7: They get the tickets.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 9: What tickets? I got a golden ticket.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 8: No, they didn't get a golden ticket.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 9: We watched that.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 7: They fucking needed tickets to get in the goddamn fucking tent.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 7: What do you mean, what tickets? They had to get
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 7: the roll of tickets so that the people could get
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 7: admission into the fucking show. How do you not remember this?
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 9: I don't even know.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 7: If that's the fucking song.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 9: I have a pretty solid excuse.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 18: They had to break into the song at every single moment.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 18: Every single moment they had to break into some fucking song.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 18: Rudolph's taking a shit. Let's sing the Rudolph poop song.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 9: But there were no songs about the snakes.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 7: There weren't.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 9: Snakes are fucking awesome.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 7: Snakes don't get a song.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 8: Winterbolt never sang a song, did he?
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 7: No, he didn't, I don't think.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 8: That's what made him awesome.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess, because he just kept his mouth shut.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 9: Now he was too busy talking shit. Yeah.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 8: Shit he couldn't back up, apparently.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 8: A reindeer took him out.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 7: But yeah, like the fucking ice cream man, he had
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 7: to sing a song.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 9: All the time.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 7: And then he'd sing a song with his girlfriend, and
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 7: then Frosty had half a fucking billion songs.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 7: And if you're snow people, why would you want to
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 7: go to fucking Florida?
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 8: California.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 7: Oh, they go to California?
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, California.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 7: I thought they went to Florida.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 8: That's where the circus was.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 7: Either way, it's someplace sunny, you know? Right on the beach. Yeah,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 7: that's a great place for snow people. Fucking idiots.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: And how are there so many magical snowman accessories? I
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: can understand you might luck into one hat. How does
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: this entire fucking family have one magic accessory?
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah. His wife has a magic scarf.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 9: Apron.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 7: Oh, she has a magic apron.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 8: No, no, no. Take that back. It was her hair.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 8: She had a mop head.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 7: She had a magic mop head.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 7: One son and one daughter. What did they have?
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 8: One of them had a scarf. One of them had earmuffs.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 8: Were you not paying any attention?
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 7: No, not to them. Because I don't care about snow people.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 8: When they had their little melted remains.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 7: That was the only part that I found funny. It
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 7: was when they died. I was like, this is good.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 9: Look at that puddle.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: Spoiler alert.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 8: See, I told you. Don't go to the fucking beach,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 8: snow people.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 9: I mean, did you learn nothing from the first Frosty special?
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 7: Act all surprised when they melted and died. They're like, oh.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 9: And what you should have learned from Frosty Returns is
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 9: don't watch Frosty Returns. I like John Goodman, but you
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 9: cannot save that.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: But you should watch this one just for the what
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: the fuck-edness.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 7: Oh my god, so much drugs.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 9: This is where we got to. We so didn't like
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 9: The Town That Dreaded Sundown, we switched to Frosty and
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 9: Rudolph's freaking 4th of July special.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 18: There's probably going to be a lot of people that
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 18: are really into movies way more than.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 7: We are that are going to be like, I can't
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 7: believe you didn't like that movie.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: This is not going to get anybody to want to
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: join the horror club.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 7: Artfully directed.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 9: Maybe this one should be a Patreon. Yeah.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: Aww.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 7: It's the lowbrow horror club.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 9: Because they know who we are.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 7: Where people just don't.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 9: They know our usual attitudes.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 13: Wow.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 8: Hmm.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 9: Maybe we should go back and plug that differently.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: This is not going to sell your horror show.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 9: Nope. Oh, well, fuck them. Sad Trumbo.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 8: It's going to be my new band name.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: Sad Trumbo.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 9: Sad Trumbo. And nobody in the band plays a trumbo.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 8: Nope.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: I would actually be surprised if there's not a band
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: called Sad Trumbo.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 9: There probably has to be.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 8: It's probably a hipster band, too.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 9: They all just play ukuleles. Well, here we are. So,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 9: if you like this movie, I'm sorry. But not that much,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 9: because I'm not going to pretend. I don't care if
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 9: it's well-respected. If I don't respond to it, that's the
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 9: way it is.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 7: I don't know. It seems like one my mom would
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 7: have really liked.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 9: Does it? Yeah, it would move.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 8: She liked frogs.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 7: It would move at the speed that she would be
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 7: able to understand.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: No, boyfriend, your mom would have so many questions.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, she would.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 9: And she would ask them?
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 9: During the movie. Moms never do that. So our real
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 9: takeaway is Dawn's awesome. Even in this movie, she is
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 9: definitely the best part of this movie.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: I'm not arguing there.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 9: And yeah, go watch Frosty and Rudolph. So that's our takeaways.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: The fact that I've lived my entire life without knowing
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: it was a thing. I mean, I've watched Rudolph just
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: about every year of my existence.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 9: And Die Hard 2. Pretty awesome. Holds up. And a
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 9: Christmas movie. So save that for your next holiday arguments.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 9: But don't try to hook up electronics with a welding torch.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 7: Alright.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 9: I think we've attacked enough things tonight. We should probably
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 9: wrap this on up.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: We should probably wrap it up a long time ago.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 9: I gotta take half this to crawl around. I gotta
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 9: take half this bullshit out. What are you talking about?
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 8: I don't know. I don't listen. I won't know any difference.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 8: That's why I know I can just pull it off.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 9: Nobody has to listen to this nonsense.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna know about Rudolph and Frosty?
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 9: Oh no, that's the good part. I'm leaving that in.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 9: Definitely leaving that in. All right. Otherwise, that about does it.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 9: We will return next time. Same geek feed. Thanks for listening. Bye.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 7: Bye.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 12: Bye.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: Make sure your.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 16: Doors and windows are bolted tight before the day is done.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 16: To you they will pursue and.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: They won't stop until the morning comes. See you next time.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: Thank you. This is the time, this is the place
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: We are all the time In the shadows.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 16: They feed upon your face While you.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: Are unaware Run back to the safe and sound Put
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: your back and say you're free of the town That
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: dreaded sundown Send your crown This ain't fake, you're strange
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: This ain't your mind, I know it sounds Amish, but
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: it plays Feels good to again stand on solid ground
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: Peace of mind, oh it feels profound No fear, it's
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: crystal clear without the.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 9: Doubt See, this is why I told you. Rescue from
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 9: Gilligan's Island or the castaways on Gilligan's Island. Two other
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 9: options available. Can't do Harlem Globetrotters. I was right. We've
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 9: already covered that one.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 12: It says that at the time where the guy confesses
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 12: to five, they're 11-4, so they got the numbers wrong
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 12: early on.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 9: I feel like those cops got a lot of things wrong.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 12: Yeah, Eddie LeDoux confessed to the five killings at Texarkana.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 12: But by this point in the film, there had only
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 12: been four murders. Because the fifth one was the guy
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 12: who was with Don Wells. He hadn't been murdered yet
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 12: when they say five.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 9: No, he was fine because he's all flailing around and...
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 9: Just because he got shot in the head twice didn't
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 9: mean that he was dead. Because if so, Don Wells
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 9: wouldn't have been alive.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: How many times did she get shot in the head?
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 9: A couple. It's fine.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 8: It's a flesh wound.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 9: Merely a flesh wound.
• 1:32:03
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