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Episode 421 - A Close Encounter with a Great Looking Camera! · TechtalkRadio

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  Speaker 1: The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, people, take out your notebooks and pencils and
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  Speaker 2: tribe rolls. You're listening to tech Talk Radio with true geeks.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, I'm Besider and I'm a geek too.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Seana Weird, I'm Slick, I'm Matt Jones, and I'm justin leme.
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  Speaker 1: It's good to see everybody. I think this is the
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  Speaker 1: most we've had on a show in months.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Can you is it room for all of these people
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  Speaker 5: in the screen.
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  Speaker 3: We're all fitting in here.
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  Speaker 5: Boy.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, we were gonna have a guest today and I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of bummed because they weren't able to make it.
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  Speaker 1: And we were to talk about UFOs hmm, a little
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  Speaker 1: different kind of interested in that, So here for that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know you were like the first one to chime in. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm ready, I'm ready. The reason is we'll just go
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  Speaker 1: We'll go ahead and talk about this. There's a guy
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  Speaker 1: named Luis Elizondo and he's written a book. It's called
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  Speaker 1: Immiment Imminent Imminent, Thank you. What is an imminent Imminent
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  Speaker 1: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt.
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  Speaker 6: Andy, do you smell burnt toast?
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  Speaker 5: What? Wait that?
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  Speaker 3: What would that mean?
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  Speaker 6: That would mean the stroke is real?
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, you were saying, thanks a lot, Thanks a lot, guys.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, this guy, Lewis Alessandro has written a book called
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  Speaker 1: Imminent Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs and I guess
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  Speaker 1: he's the former head of the Pentagon program investigating UAPs.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know what those are.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: And he's been on Joe Rogan's show. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And this woman who knows him, Teresa Tendell, was gonna
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  Speaker 1: come on because he's going to be at the rialto
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  Speaker 1: theater coming up on the third. Uh. And she knows
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  Speaker 1: him as a former director of the Maryland State Muffun Chapter.
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  Speaker 3: M What is Muffun? Anybody know?
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  Speaker 5: I had that up on my screen. I did look
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  Speaker 5: that up in advance because you can find it keep
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  Speaker 5: going often Mutual UFO Network.
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  Speaker 6: Wow, all right, Oh well, okay, two UFO and UAP
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  Speaker 6: is Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well sounds like kind of cool. I
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  Speaker 1: really wanted to get her on the show, but just
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  Speaker 1: doesn't look like we were able to do that. Either way,
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  Speaker 1: we got us. So how's everybody doing?
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  Speaker 5: I like my flying sauces in purple?
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  Speaker 1: And all right, here's here's here's the go around here
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  Speaker 1: it is, has anybody experienced a unidentified flying object?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I tell.
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  Speaker 4: You what this one time he's up by the park.
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  Speaker 4: I saw this and they took me. Man, they took me,
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  Speaker 4: I swear.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, don't ask any new questions.
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  Speaker 7: You don't want to know what they did to me
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  Speaker 7: up there.
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  Speaker 3: Was it bad?
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  Speaker 7: It was bad? Yeah, I don't want to talk about it.
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  Speaker 6: Did you like it?
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  Speaker 7: No?
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  Speaker 5: Well that's a good answer.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, this show is getting off to a weird start.
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  Speaker 1: It really is really bizarre. Uh sho, sean your way
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  Speaker 1: out there.
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  Speaker 8: And uh, I can't say that I have. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: I've seen a lot of weird stuff in the sky,
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  Speaker 8: try and chasing the door of the lights in the
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  Speaker 8: space station, but it's usually something that can be explained
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  Speaker 8: or tracked, like a plane or space debris or satellites
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  Speaker 8: or whatever. But yeah, nothing, nothing in the extraterrestrial category.
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  Speaker 7: Anyways.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I kind of want did people talk about
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  Speaker 1: UFOs before Close Encounters of the Third Kind? You know,
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  Speaker 1: before the movie came out.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, you have to define UFOs, right, because it's
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  Speaker 8: like historic There is documentation of tribes and Indians with
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  Speaker 8: just the depictions of stuff in the sky, right, So
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  Speaker 8: what is that to them?
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  Speaker 9: That's in a UFO?
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 8: So I'm sure that over the years things have evolved
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  Speaker 8: and you get those legends that turn into myths and
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  Speaker 8: things like that, Right, So they kind of get passed
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  Speaker 8: down over the years and turn into you know, stuff
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  Speaker 8: that spooks spooks people slick.
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  Speaker 3: Well, have you ever experienced anything?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I was gonna say, I'm here in the two
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  Speaker 5: sumth metropolitan area. I'm going to assume that you and
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  Speaker 5: Justin may have heard of some people saying, because I've
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  Speaker 5: you know, I've heard it multiple times over many years.
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  Speaker 5: There were three lights and they moved in a manner
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  Speaker 5: that's unusual to you know, how airplanes fly. And there
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  Speaker 5: was a time I was staying far west of let say, Tucson,
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  Speaker 5: to be on the mountain over there and right yeah,
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  Speaker 5: picture yeah, and off in the distance I'm gonna say southwest,
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  Speaker 5: there seemed to be some aerial vehicles. You know, I
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  Speaker 5: won't say three lights, but yeah, it could have been
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  Speaker 5: three lights that seemed to be moving in a way
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  Speaker 5: I can't explain. You know, I'm not going to say
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  Speaker 5: I ever saw UFO, but because I remember somebody going, hey,
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  Speaker 5: come take a look, and I'm like, well, okay, but
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  Speaker 5: I'm just not sure. Have you not heard those stories,
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  Speaker 5: cause it's been you know, a lot of people around
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  Speaker 5: here have told it for many.
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  Speaker 1: Many I remember about ten years ago driving on the
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  Speaker 1: ten heading to California for a trip to visit the family,
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  Speaker 1: and it was over i would say, between Phoenix and Tucson,
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  Speaker 1: just a string of lights. And you know, now people
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  Speaker 1: say the string of lights and right away people say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's Starlink. You know, that's the Starlink satellites, and
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  Speaker 1: that's how it's But ten years ago they weren't doing that,
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  Speaker 1: and I remember seeing them and I've thought, what the
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  Speaker 1: heck is that? And it was just like in a row.
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  Speaker 1: But then again, I guess it could have been satellites
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  Speaker 1: were up ten years ago, so it's very possible.
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  Speaker 7: I've never personally had an experience.
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  Speaker 3: Even up in Colorado.
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  Speaker 7: Nope, no, no, I can't say I have.
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  Speaker 8: I will say though, that in my amateur radio days,
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  Speaker 8: right the stuff that I didn't hand radio. It's fun
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  Speaker 8: to tune in and listen to stuff that you don't
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  Speaker 8: necessarily know what it is, right, It's usually just garbled,
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  Speaker 8: but it sounds cool. So you could count that as
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  Speaker 8: I've probably heard alien stuff. But who here remembers doing
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  Speaker 8: SETI at home?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, SETI.
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  Speaker 1: SETI was the search for Extraterrestrial intelligence, right, correct?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, So one of my mentors who just recently passed away,
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  Speaker 8: got me into SETI when I worked at Fox, So
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  Speaker 8: this would have been back in twenty ten, and I
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  Speaker 8: had it on any computer that I owned, and it
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  Speaker 8: was running twenty four to seven until they shut it down,
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  Speaker 8: probably four or five years ago. And it was just
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  Speaker 8: cool to watch, right, And who knows what they did
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  Speaker 8: with the data. It got sent to Berkeley and they
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  Speaker 8: analyzed it. But what did that mean?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 8: So maybe one day I'll get an email saying, hey,
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  Speaker 8: this piece of information that your CPU calculated was alien
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  Speaker 8: technology or something.
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  Speaker 9: That's what I'm hoping for.
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  Speaker 5: Help me out. It said it, because I remember hearing
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  Speaker 5: about it, and it was to me it was you
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  Speaker 5: installed a bunch of people installed software on the computer
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  Speaker 5: to assist with processing and searching of something.
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  Speaker 8: So basically think of it like crypto mining data data
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  Speaker 8: from Berkeley off of satellites and radio telescopes, Like they
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  Speaker 8: was just a peer to peer data exchange. Your CPU
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  Speaker 8: was processing raw like data from satellites and the gigahertz
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  Speaker 8: spectrums and very I mean you could kind of watch it. It
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  Speaker 8: would tell you what chunks you were you were scanning,
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  Speaker 8: so it would tell you like, you're on this array
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  Speaker 8: and it's scanning in the twenty three gigaheard spectrum, and
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  Speaker 8: it would just tell you was scanning that.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, and it's just there was just I mean,
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  Speaker 4: with all the different radio telescopes arrays out there, there's
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  Speaker 4: just so much data that we're pulling down. There was
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  Speaker 4: no way they would ever be able to do it themselves,
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  Speaker 4: even with a supercomputer. So that's why they created this
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  Speaker 4: happens And it was one of the forgive me if
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  Speaker 4: I'm wrong, but I think it was one of the first,
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  Speaker 4: if not the first, like distributed cloud computing.
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  Speaker 9: I would agree with that.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, And it was very popular in the in the
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  Speaker 8: nerd community, and it was kind of fun to compete
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  Speaker 8: with your friends and say, hey, I've got this many
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  Speaker 8: chunks decoded.
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  Speaker 9: Or whatever whatever. It was you have this many points
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  Speaker 9: and it got people in trouble.
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  Speaker 8: So this was before crypto, right, right, So you had
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  Speaker 8: people installing them on work servers and things like that.
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  Speaker 8: I actually got in trouble for putting it on some
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  Speaker 8: computers at work that had higher processing power at the time.
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  Speaker 9: And was using the you know, the company's power on
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  Speaker 9: the internet.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 9: So it just was because you could get a higher
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  Speaker 9: score than your friends.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't it a shame that you got in trouble for
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  Speaker 1: doing that? Not mining crypto?
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  Speaker 9: It was it, I know, I mean I knew better
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  Speaker 9: than that with crypto.
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  Speaker 4: Well that's the thing you mentioned using the you know
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  Speaker 4: company's internet or whatever. Honestly, it really didn't require hardly
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  Speaker 4: any internet because it would just go online. It would
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  Speaker 4: download a chunk of data and then it would sit
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  Speaker 4: there and chew on that data for hours and hours
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  Speaker 4: and hours and hours, and then once it had its results,
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  Speaker 4: then it would just upload that back to the to
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  Speaker 4: Berkeley and then it would download a new set of data.
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  Speaker 4: So it's not like you had to be connected to
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  Speaker 4: the Internet at all times.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, So you were actually helping the government and doing
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  Speaker 1: the research through different parts of the world.
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  Speaker 3: Wherever you were, and however you were able to connect.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, so like the SETI is still exists, right, so
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  Speaker 8: that that part didn't go away. It's just this part
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  Speaker 8: of it the funding ran out or whatever, so you
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  Speaker 8: can still go check out and do SETI and all
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  Speaker 8: that stuff. And there's actually another program that kind of
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  Speaker 8: an offshoot event called HARP. It's I don't remember what
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  Speaker 8: the acronym stands for, but it's another high frequency radio
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  Speaker 8: project that uses your CPU power GP power to scan.
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  Speaker 6: High frequency active oral research program. They actually did something
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  Speaker 6: similar in order Lands three. When you got to a
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  Speaker 6: certain town in the game, they actually in game they
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  Speaker 6: had what looked like the standard arcade machine and they
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  Speaker 6: told you when you started playing this game in a game,
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  Speaker 6: they were like, hey, just to let you know, this
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  Speaker 6: is not just a game. You are researching folded proteins, yes,
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  Speaker 6: and the work that you're doing here. So now any
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  Speaker 6: gamer that played Borderlands three, and even if they only
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  Speaker 6: played that for like two minutes, they're now listed on
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  Speaker 6: a research paper because enough people played and did that
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  Speaker 6: that they actually managed to get the answers that they
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  Speaker 6: were looking for. Doing all the simulated protein holding and
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  Speaker 6: things like that. I'm like, you, guys, all you have
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  Speaker 6: to do is tap into the competitive nature of gamers,
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  Speaker 6: Like that's all you have to do, Like as Sean
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  Speaker 6: put it out, like, you know, coming in being like, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I bet that really awesome new PC. These are a
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  Speaker 6: number of pieces I've gotten decoded. How about you there, Johnny,
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  Speaker 6: And Johnny's like, well, dang it, I gotta go get
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  Speaker 6: a new processor and catch up. Like just tap into
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  Speaker 6: that competitive nature and yeah, well we'll get it taken
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  Speaker 6: care for you.
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  Speaker 1: You know, kind of wonder with the technology that we
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  Speaker 1: have and the satellites that I've been put up, do
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  Speaker 1: you think that that's going to help in community, either
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  Speaker 1: communication or actually justifying that there could be intelligent life
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  Speaker 1: out there as an alternate world.
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  Speaker 6: There's a couple of theories as to why we haven't
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  Speaker 6: or you know, if we have, why we haven't had
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  Speaker 6: sustained communication with any form of extraterrestrial the couple of
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  Speaker 6: different theories. There's one that is the young universe theory,
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  Speaker 6: which the Milky Way is relatively a young galaxy in
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  Speaker 6: terms of the age of our universe. You know, we
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  Speaker 6: are we are still kind of at the at the
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  Speaker 6: early lengths of how long this place is gonna last.
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  Speaker 6: So it could just be through some works and flukes.
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  Speaker 6: We have just showed up first, and other biological life
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  Speaker 6: forms are still evolving, still catching up. There's also the
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  Speaker 6: Great Barrier theory, which is as civilization becomes sufficiently technologically advanced,
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  Speaker 6: they have to try and pass through what they refer
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  Speaker 6: to as the Great Barrier and survive and move on
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  Speaker 6: towards interstellar explorations. The great barriers basically, you discover the
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  Speaker 6: power of the atom, don't kill yourselves with it, don't
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  Speaker 6: nuclear planet, and so far known as the that and
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  Speaker 6: we're walking down the way to being like time for
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  Speaker 6: that test of the Great barrier that we are. We're
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  Speaker 6: gonna take an l on that one.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: And the scariest one for me is the great silence,
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  Speaker 6: which is there are tons of other species out there,
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  Speaker 6: and right now we're basically doing the equivalent of like
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  Speaker 6: taking a megaphone and screaming into like downtown.
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  Speaker 10: I'm from Earth and my name is Bob. Here's my address,
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  Speaker 10: here's the code to my front door. Here's how you
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  Speaker 10: find me in the neighborhood.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, we are telling everyone exactly how to find this,
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  Speaker 6: But the great silence theory is that all these other
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  Speaker 6: life forms that are out there, like there is one
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  Speaker 6: super predator species and everyone is like, dude, shut up,
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  Speaker 6: he is going to find you like you are telling
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  Speaker 6: him how to get in the shut up. It's gonna
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  Speaker 6: show up in your planet's gonna get turned into a marble,
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  Speaker 6: all right, marvel.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes to when it comes to movies, think
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  Speaker 1: about it. I mentioned Close Encounters of the Third Kind,
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  Speaker 1: which is a great movie. I mean even I think
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  Speaker 1: it still holds up today pretty much. I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: visual effects were outstanding, so it didn't you know, crack
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  Speaker 1: that that belief that something really wasn't happening. You had
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  Speaker 1: this amazing photography and then you had that great score.
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  Speaker 1: But you have the great characters, Richard Dreyfus, Melinda Dillon,
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  Speaker 1: the people they ran into that also believed in UFOs
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  Speaker 1: And then you know, is it a government conspiracy and
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  Speaker 1: just just a great movie?
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  Speaker 3: Again, I think it just it stands up today.
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  Speaker 1: But is there another movie that we're missing that maybe
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  Speaker 1: best highlights the search for extraterrestrial intelligence that maybe we're
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  Speaker 1: not even thinking about. I mean, Interstellar was that would
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  Speaker 1: that be close to it or Fire in the Sky,
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  Speaker 1: which a lot of people said that that was, and
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  Speaker 1: that was based on a story here in Arizona. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys remember that one came
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  Speaker 1: out in nineteen ninety three, and again it was based
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  Speaker 1: on a true story. James Garner I think was in
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  Speaker 1: the movie, and it took place in the White Mountains
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  Speaker 1: up near a globe, Arizona.
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  Speaker 3: Just a pretty pretty.
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  Speaker 1: Scary, pretty freaky movie about an actual you know, alien abduction.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to see the movie, it's streaming on
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  Speaker 1: Pluto TV, which is that free service again, Pluto TV.
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  Speaker 3: You can check it out there. I know, Slick. What
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  Speaker 3: are your thoughts?
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  Speaker 5: Justin just said I was thinking about the same thing
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  Speaker 5: with methemal sale Meg. It only takes one borg, just one.
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  Speaker 7: Just the one. What about what about the movie Contact.
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  Speaker 6: With Yeah, no, that that is another good one.
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  Speaker 4: And what's the other one that just came out recently
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  Speaker 4: with Amy Adams or whatever? It was this kind of
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  Speaker 4: the same style of contact. It was people said it
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  Speaker 4: was very similar to that Arrival.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, I'll hear the thing.
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  Speaker 4: But here's my I wanted to mention this my favorite
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  Speaker 4: theory on one on all this is. You know, obviously
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  Speaker 4: technology has increased and we start to see more and
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  Speaker 4: more of these quote unquote sightings of of UFOs or
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  Speaker 4: potential aliens. I think my favorite theory is all of
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  Speaker 4: these other alien species out there are they're just funneling
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  Speaker 4: into the arena and getting their front row seats because
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  Speaker 4: we're about to blow ourselves up and they just want
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  Speaker 4: to get the best view possible.
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  Speaker 3: Weren't you cheery?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I agree with them. I'm sorry. And there's
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  Speaker 6: the the one of the other things. Two things one
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  Speaker 6: looping backs. When we were talking about the movies, I'm
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  Speaker 6: gonna go a real old school I'm gonna go for
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  Speaker 6: the nineteen fifty one version the Day of the Earth
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  Speaker 6: stood Still?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah are oh yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Not the Keanu Reeves one, you know.
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  Speaker 6: The OG nineteen fifty one, the original version of the
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  Speaker 6: Day the Earth stood Still where we had somebody land
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  Speaker 6: and they're like, we're here to help kind of because
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  Speaker 6: you guys are screwed. Man, Wait, what was it?
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  Speaker 3: What was the other one? There was a movie with
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  Speaker 3: a dog, do you remember?
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  Speaker 1: The dog was walking around with a human head, and
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  Speaker 1: that's when they said, okay, there's something wrong here. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: Pierce Brosnan was in it. It was a huge mass attacks,
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  Speaker 1: Mars attacks.
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  Speaker 5: That's the one.
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  Speaker 11: Jack Nicholson playing like eighteen different roles in that movie.
• 17:27
  Speaker 11: I remember watching that in high school and we we
• 17:30
  Speaker 11: I was in Navy j R.
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: O TC in high school was the elective I basically
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: lived in and we just like we had to pause
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: the movie and stop when we saw Jack Nicholson's uh,
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: his his army jacket when he was one of his
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: general characters. Because there's there's a rule that they're always
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: in Hollywood, if you're doing if you're portraying somebody in
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: a military uniform, there always has to be something wrong.
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: You not be a true, entirely accurate uniform. There always
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: has to be something wrong so that people can't just
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: be like, oh, you wear that and I can walk
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: on base. He his army jacket had the same ribbons
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: that my Cadet j R. O T C uniform had
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: on because they use Navy Junior R O T C
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: ribbons relative Like, wait a minute, that looks like a
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: participation ribbon he generates. Look, there's the unit citation ribbon.
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: I got that online like funny.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: Mean, as you mentioned that because I got in trouble
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: for wearing a general steps like Big Time used to
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: work on the basis, Yes, yeah, I lived on a
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: military installation. I'm a military brat and I was wearing
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: it because I got it in the second hand store
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: and got I got my got my sponsor, I got
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: my second step father. Big trouble because I refused to
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: take it off. It's like, well, you can take off
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: the hat and we can take off your stripes, all right.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: So if if you want to attend this event, uh,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Louis Celizan though the author of this book, he looks
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: pretty serious, looks like a very serious guy, h imminent
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: inside the Pentagon's hunt for UFOs. It's going to be
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: at the rialto Theater tomorrow as a matter of fact,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: so you can get more information about that if you
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: want to check out the show. The doors will open
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: at seven pm. Tickets are twenty bucks up to sixty
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: dollars depending where you're going to be seating. It's reserve
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: seating all ages six and over. And again, the door's
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: open at seven The show will start at eight pm.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: And again, the guy's former ahead of the Pentagon's UFO
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: investigation unit and it should be a really interesting discussion,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: especially if you like extraterrestrial science. You know, we're gonna
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: have a serious talk about UFOs.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: I honestly enjoyed it. I thought that was pretty good.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: All right, we don't forget about served man. By the way, guys,
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: that's to one the other morning when I think.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: That's the Twilight the Twilight Zone episode. Do you all
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: remember that one?
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Oh, just okay, you've got Justin. You had one
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: episode Justin. I can't tell you, but you got a watch?
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Oh you have it? Seen it?
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: Justin?
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: It's really into the I'm not in a Twilight Zone
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: or Black Mirror or anything like that.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, I love Black Black Mirror was great too.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I'm waiting for him Charlie Booker to put out a
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: brand new season of that.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Sean, did you see any of those?
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: No, why don't you two get together like this weekend?
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: How are we gonna do this viewing party?
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I'll tell you what. We'll take a break,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: we come back. We're we've got a guess that I
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: do believe we're gonna have on the show. So again, uh,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: talking about a camera they've developed. He's been on the
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: show before, So that'll be good. I know that'll be
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And with both Sean and Justin,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: you know, with the broadcasting background, it should be interesting
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: to see what he's gonna tell us about this brand
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: new camera.
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean dea Weird, I'm Slick, I'm
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: Matt Jones, and I'm Justin.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Let me find us on the web at tech talk
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: radio dot com. We'll be right back and now fact
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: to tech Radio.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Some months ago, we were blessed to have Richard Newman
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: from sub to R on the show and sub to
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: are at the time it's put out this amazing green
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: screen that kind of changed the whole process. And you
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: may have seen the interview. It's available up on our
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: website at tech talk radio dot com.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: But Richard had kind.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Of teased a little bit that they were working on
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: a brand new camera design. When somebody tells you that,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: you say, well, wait, you've got so many cameras out
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: there on the market, how is yours going to be different? Well,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: when we all got a chance to see Richard pop
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: into our screen here and the quality of the camera,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: we all kind of stepped back a little and said Wow,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: it's what they have developed at sub to Are and
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: we're happy to have Richard Duman on the show again.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Richard, it's good to talk to you.
• 21:52
  Speaker 12: Thank you for having me back. I really love being here,
• 21:55
  Speaker 12: so it's great. And of course you're just gonna have
• 21:58
  Speaker 12: to hit mute and kick me off. I'm going to
• 22:00
  Speaker 12: blather about our camera like crazy.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: So well, you know, the camera is neat because it
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: speaks for itself. I mean, we look at the quality
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: that we're getting off the camera.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: It's it's pretty amazing.
• 22:12
  Speaker 12: It really is what we've set out to build from
• 22:16
  Speaker 12: day one, which which is to give people a professional
• 22:20
  Speaker 12: broadcast quality but with the ease of use of a webcam.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: And we do not.
• 22:27
  Speaker 12: I think we called a webcam because we're not. I mean,
• 22:30
  Speaker 12: that gives people the idea that you know, we're fifty
• 22:34
  Speaker 12: two teeny tiny sensor, right, you know, we're not. We
• 22:39
  Speaker 12: built this camera using a Sony iMX two ninety four
• 22:43
  Speaker 12: image sensor, which is a micro four third censor for
• 22:46
  Speaker 12: you guys and broadcast, you know that they're much bigger sensor,
• 22:50
  Speaker 12: not quite cinematic yet, but for what we're doing, it's
• 22:53
  Speaker 12: amazingly huge. It's like sixteen times bigger than what you
• 22:56
  Speaker 12: find anywhere else. Allows us to use micro four thirds glass,
• 23:00
  Speaker 12: which I should hold it up. This is this is
• 23:02
  Speaker 12: all the bigger it is.
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: Oh wow, not big at.
• 23:04
  Speaker 12: All now, little teeny tiny guy.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Is it front heavy with that lens on it? Or
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: does it have like a mounting bracket to hold it
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: onto a mount?
• 23:13
  Speaker 12: Thank you for asking that question. It's got two quarter
• 23:17
  Speaker 12: twenties on the bottom which allow you to adjust the
• 23:21
  Speaker 12: center of gravity depending upon how heavy a lens you
• 23:23
  Speaker 12: put on, because some glasses really heavy, some is really light,
• 23:27
  Speaker 12: so you have a chance to adjust the balance. We
• 23:31
  Speaker 12: have three of those on the top so you can
• 23:35
  Speaker 12: also hang it from above. We also have rack mount groups.
• 23:40
  Speaker 12: Can't see them too well, but you've got rock mount
• 23:42
  Speaker 12: groups on the side, and you have rock mount groups
• 23:45
  Speaker 12: on the bottom, which means that you can hang this
• 23:49
  Speaker 12: thing and mount this thing from a gazillion different directions.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: In developing this camera, Richard, you're obviously we're looking for
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: a solution for maybe a something that you had not
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: seen in them market. What was that?
• 24:01
  Speaker 12: What we started out with, you know, building a camera
• 24:04
  Speaker 12: for Twitch and what we saw is when people got
• 24:07
  Speaker 12: tired of a webcam. The next thing they did is
• 24:11
  Speaker 12: they moved up to a DSLRYE. And DSLRs are complicated,
• 24:17
  Speaker 12: they're cumbersome to set up, they're expensive by the time
• 24:21
  Speaker 12: you get all the fake batteries and all the other
• 24:24
  Speaker 12: stuff you have to do, and they're really not easy
• 24:26
  Speaker 12: to use. I'll be honest. I got a DSLR that
• 24:29
  Speaker 12: we use for, you know, behind the sceneshoots, and the
• 24:33
  Speaker 12: first thing I do is put it on auto because
• 24:36
  Speaker 12: I will never learn all of the commands in there, right,
• 24:41
  Speaker 12: And we realize that that's kind of who our audience is.
• 24:44
  Speaker 12: I mean, you really don't want to become an expert
• 24:48
  Speaker 12: camera person. That takes years of study and and a
• 24:52
  Speaker 12: lot of knowledge. So the thing that makes webcam great
• 24:55
  Speaker 12: is that you know, you plug it any turn on works,
• 24:58
  Speaker 12: but the quality you'll never get there with the teeny
• 25:02
  Speaker 12: tiny sensors that they use. So we set out to
• 25:06
  Speaker 12: build a camera that was based on larger format image sensor,
• 25:11
  Speaker 12: larger format glass and then make that as easy to
• 25:16
  Speaker 12: use as a webcam, and then keep the price down
• 25:19
  Speaker 12: to where it's reasonable and it's comparable. And we went
• 25:21
  Speaker 12: with micro four thirds because when you move up to
• 25:25
  Speaker 12: a DSLR, you find that if you have a Sony
• 25:29
  Speaker 12: camera or a canon Ae camera, only canon Ae lenses
• 25:35
  Speaker 12: will work on it. And you can get lens of
• 25:37
  Speaker 12: adapters in some work and some don't. But yeah, that's
• 25:40
  Speaker 12: the problem. So the idea was Golden micro four thirds
• 25:44
  Speaker 12: because micro four thirds is an industry standard. And while
• 25:47
  Speaker 12: I will tell you that anything universal is not universal,
• 25:52
  Speaker 12: it realized as it supports. We learn the hard way,
• 25:55
  Speaker 12: but we support the basic power functions of micro four
• 25:58
  Speaker 12: thirds lenses and this gives the end user the opportunity
• 26:03
  Speaker 12: to select from a massive amount of glass that's out
• 26:07
  Speaker 12: there and a really reasonable price. The lenses are interchangeable.
• 26:11
  Speaker 12: That's the point we wanted to get to. The other
• 26:14
  Speaker 12: thing we want We learned is that people need power lenses.
• 26:19
  Speaker 12: They need power focus, they need power aperture. Our original
• 26:22
  Speaker 12: camera that came out was a manual focus and if
• 26:25
  Speaker 12: the camera is too far away, they can't reach the
• 26:27
  Speaker 12: lens to focus.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: That.
• 26:28
  Speaker 12: Going with microphort, the it's allows you to have on
• 26:31
  Speaker 12: desktop control of focus and zoom and aperture. But now
• 26:35
  Speaker 12: the fund begins because on the output side, so this
• 26:40
  Speaker 12: is a this is a development camera, and what you'll
• 26:43
  Speaker 12: see is you've got an HDMI output here, you have
• 26:47
  Speaker 12: a USB going to get it right, Yes, you have
• 26:49
  Speaker 12: USB output. We actually have video out over USB. We
• 26:52
  Speaker 12: have dual on the studio four sixty. We have dual
• 26:56
  Speaker 12: twelve gig SDI outputs. Plus we have a gen lock input,
• 27:00
  Speaker 12: so if you're doing multiple cameras, you can genlock them.
• 27:03
  Speaker 12: And then this sweet little thing, this is called an
• 27:06
  Speaker 12: SFP plus cage, and the SFP plus cage allows you
• 27:11
  Speaker 12: to buy little off the shelf modules I see Matt
• 27:15
  Speaker 12: nodding his head, and convert the video output in absolutely
• 27:19
  Speaker 12: anything you want that's off the shelf. So if you
• 27:22
  Speaker 12: wanted this to be optical output and have a forty
• 27:25
  Speaker 12: kilometer range on it, you can get you can get
• 27:28
  Speaker 12: a module that slides in the back. If you have
• 27:31
  Speaker 12: a square one that has HDMI and you go, I
• 27:34
  Speaker 12: really want upgrade SDI, you can buy an SDI, can
• 27:37
  Speaker 12: vert or vice versa. That's really the advantage of these
• 27:42
  Speaker 12: SFP cages. You can ndi IP. That's what I think
• 27:46
  Speaker 12: is a really cool feature about the camera is that
• 27:48
  Speaker 12: you're not stuck with a video output and all of
• 27:50
  Speaker 12: our outputs are depending upon the video format is a
• 27:55
  Speaker 12: four K sixty output camera is a native twelve bit
• 27:59
  Speaker 12: color depthning find your outpuit it usually drops to ten,
• 28:02
  Speaker 12: but inside all of our processing is done. It's all
• 28:04
  Speaker 12: the color. The other thing that's important for broadcasters is
• 28:08
  Speaker 12: that we have virtually no latency. The most you will
• 28:12
  Speaker 12: be is one frame behind reality or sixteen milliseconds.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: So does the processing happen on board or does it
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: utilize the computer that it's connected to to process.
• 28:22
  Speaker 12: No, all the all the processes happen on board. We
• 28:25
  Speaker 12: run at This is an FPG eight that based camera.
• 28:28
  Speaker 12: There's no ask on board, which means that all of
• 28:31
  Speaker 12: the video pipeline is software based, and so we can
• 28:38
  Speaker 12: you can upgrade it, you can modify it. Our dream
• 28:42
  Speaker 12: down the road is to make it modulars and you
• 28:44
  Speaker 12: actually have access to parts of the ip you know,
• 28:47
  Speaker 12: the image processing pipeline, and can make changes yourself. So
• 28:52
  Speaker 12: if you want to, for instance, adjust the color converter
• 28:57
  Speaker 12: at the end, if you want to add in you
• 29:02
  Speaker 12: know you don't like the way we do, demo's egg
• 29:04
  Speaker 12: and you can implement your own demos agging. Our goal
• 29:08
  Speaker 12: of this camera was to make it an open architecture,
• 29:11
  Speaker 12: not open source open architecture because we believe that building
• 29:16
  Speaker 12: a platform for people to innovate is where this is
• 29:20
  Speaker 12: going to be very powerful. I'm willing to bet we're
• 29:22
  Speaker 12: the only camera company in the world that if you
• 29:25
  Speaker 12: crack the case etched on our motherboard, it says, if
• 29:29
  Speaker 12: you've come this far, explore, innovate, and create, And we
• 29:34
  Speaker 12: actually give you places to hook into the major components
• 29:38
  Speaker 12: on the motherboard, and we give you the knowledge base
• 29:41
  Speaker 12: and the tools to play.
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: Oh wow.
• 29:43
  Speaker 12: We started out being R and D guys, right, you know,
• 29:47
  Speaker 12: engineers exploring and we needed to build a platform. So
• 29:49
  Speaker 12: this is basically a dead kit shoved in a box
• 29:52
  Speaker 12: to make it look like a beautiful camera. On the back,
• 29:54
  Speaker 12: there's a little bank of square connectors.
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I was wondered about that.
• 29:57
  Speaker 12: We offer a external ice wirt C comport. Ice wort
• 30:02
  Speaker 12: C is kind of a universal language that electronic components
• 30:06
  Speaker 12: talk to each other the very simple slow communication protocol.
• 30:10
  Speaker 12: We also have a PTO of power takeoff on the
• 30:12
  Speaker 12: back as well, five bolts, so it's available to drive
• 30:15
  Speaker 12: certain things. If you wanted to control, for instance, our
• 30:18
  Speaker 12: green screen, you don't have to have a separate control
• 30:24
  Speaker 12: panel for the green screen and for the camera camera
• 30:27
  Speaker 12: can control a green screen. Our goal again down the
• 30:30
  Speaker 12: road is it can also control the lights in the
• 30:34
  Speaker 12: It can also control a gimbal. It can also control
• 30:37
  Speaker 12: a cat feed. Or we don't care. That's the beauty
• 30:40
  Speaker 12: of I squirts see is it doesn't really care. You
• 30:43
  Speaker 12: just say this address is this device, here's the registers,
• 30:47
  Speaker 12: here's how you write to it, you know, and you
• 30:50
  Speaker 12: can send commands back and forth to the host command panel,
• 30:54
  Speaker 12: the control panel. You have one point of entry that
• 30:58
  Speaker 12: allows you to control what's going going on in the room.
• 31:01
  Speaker 12: And if you carry this to the extent that we
• 31:02
  Speaker 12: want to. You think of auto exposure. Auto exposure just
• 31:07
  Speaker 12: changes the aperture and the exposure on the camera itself,
• 31:12
  Speaker 12: but does nothing to the outside environment. What if auto
• 31:17
  Speaker 12: exposure could adjust your lights?
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: Oh wow, that's a good thought.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 31:23
  Speaker 12: Now when you talk about the single person's studio, which
• 31:26
  Speaker 12: is really where we're focusing, which is what everybody is
• 31:29
  Speaker 12: right here and now every one of us is a
• 31:31
  Speaker 12: single person's studio. We've designed this not just to be
• 31:34
  Speaker 12: a camera, but be the focal point of a single
• 31:37
  Speaker 12: person studio and make it easy to use.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: What was that moment, like when you got it together
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: and you looked at it and you said, this is amazing,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Like we're looking at it, looking at the quality. And
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: for our listeners that are listening on the radio, if
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: you go to our website, you'd be able to see
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: the quality we're talking about.
• 31:55
  Speaker 12: You've been a long journey. We've been on this path
• 31:58
  Speaker 12: to twelve years. We can spend hours and probably shots
• 32:01
  Speaker 12: of tequila talking about all the disasters that we've faced,
• 32:07
  Speaker 12: from exploding motherboards to a vendor promising a forty dollars
• 32:11
  Speaker 12: part that ended up costing us almost thirteen hundred dollars.
• 32:15
  Speaker 12: You know, I mean it's just every mic dropping engineers,
• 32:18
  Speaker 12: I mean taking everything with them, everything you can imagine.
• 32:21
  Speaker 12: But this has always been our dream. And seeing the
• 32:24
  Speaker 12: video coming off of our camera was was that moment,
• 32:30
  Speaker 12: you know, and we said we did it. We pulled
• 32:32
  Speaker 12: it off. We did what we had set out to do,
• 32:35
  Speaker 12: which is not a simple task. And I remember us
• 32:39
  Speaker 12: sitting around going when we first thoughted this, going, how
• 32:41
  Speaker 12: are can you be to build a camera?
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 32:44
  Speaker 12: And we had you know, we had the pontificating trolls
• 32:47
  Speaker 12: and said, wow, you can build a camera. For forty
• 32:49
  Speaker 12: dollars in parts. What are you guys talking about? You
• 32:52
  Speaker 12: can if you slap a module on in our duino, maybe,
• 32:55
  Speaker 12: but if you really want to build a camera and
• 32:58
  Speaker 12: you start from the ground up, it is is not
• 33:01
  Speaker 12: an in significant task. I mean, the last statistic I
• 33:05
  Speaker 12: saw is Apple has eight hundred w two engineers doing
• 33:09
  Speaker 12: nothing but working on the camera for their I phone.
• 33:12
  Speaker 12: We laugh, We build our camera for what they spend
• 33:15
  Speaker 12: on coffee and bagels.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: So the marketing that's got to be a chore as well,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: because the next step is getting it into either retail
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: or getting it into the hands of the person that
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: wants to buy it. How will you do this? Is
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: it going to be through you.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Know, somebody goes to the website they could order it,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: or will they.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Be able to walk into a high end camera store
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: or a best buy and be able to buy it?
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: So we're.
• 33:44
  Speaker 12: We found it with the green screen, and the green
• 33:47
  Speaker 12: screen was a great way of understanding our customer base.
• 33:52
  Speaker 12: It was it kind of a fun experiment. You know,
• 33:57
  Speaker 12: who's interested? Who's buying this thing? Wasn't people we thought
• 34:00
  Speaker 12: we're going to buy. What drives people to us to
• 34:04
  Speaker 12: buy that are experts in the field using it going wow,
• 34:09
  Speaker 12: this just was like, why didn't I think of this?
• 34:12
  Speaker 12: This is a mind blow. So our plan is to
• 34:15
  Speaker 12: build a small set of the cameras. We've got most
• 34:18
  Speaker 12: of the parts in stock right now, and to get
• 34:20
  Speaker 12: those in the hands of people who have two qualifications.
• 34:25
  Speaker 12: One they understand a camera, so they understand and can
• 34:29
  Speaker 12: talk about why this camera is different, why it's different
• 34:33
  Speaker 12: than a webcam, why it's different than a DSLR, why
• 34:38
  Speaker 12: it's the kind of camera if you are going to
• 34:40
  Speaker 12: elevate your strain you want. I mean, they just you know,
• 34:45
  Speaker 12: somebody who sells cosmetics is not our kind of influencer,
• 34:49
  Speaker 12: and not necessarily every gamer could be an influencer. We're
• 34:53
  Speaker 12: really looking for those people who understand and can convey
• 34:55
  Speaker 12: to their base what it is, and then some as
• 35:00
  Speaker 12: obviously people who have a respected following. Doesn't mean you
• 35:04
  Speaker 12: have a million people, but it means that people come
• 35:07
  Speaker 12: to you and seek advice. But honestly, we have a
• 35:10
  Speaker 12: larger challenge before we get to market, and what is
• 35:13
  Speaker 12: that up into the pandemic. We were founder funded, We
• 35:17
  Speaker 12: were self funded. It it was you know, I joke, but
• 35:21
  Speaker 12: slaughtered for o one case and liquidated savings in every
• 35:24
  Speaker 12: body part we could sell on craigs and this straight
• 35:27
  Speaker 12: we found a sole investor. I had four hundred and
• 35:30
  Speaker 12: fifty doors slammed in my face and found a sole
• 35:33
  Speaker 12: investor and absolutely look to be the perfect combination. I
• 35:37
  Speaker 12: love this guy, by the way, super nice guy. We
• 35:41
  Speaker 12: weren't even talking about investing. He said, Hey, just had
• 35:44
  Speaker 12: a curiosity. You guys looking and raise money? Yeah, said
• 35:48
  Speaker 12: how much? Throughout a number? He said, okay, And we
• 35:51
  Speaker 12: got half of it, which carried us through the pandemic
• 35:54
  Speaker 12: and got us to this camera. It got us the
• 35:56
  Speaker 12: green screens, it got us the mouse, it got the
• 36:00
  Speaker 12: glasses in production. I mean it was fabulous. And it
• 36:05
  Speaker 12: came time for the second half in their bankrupt oh man.
• 36:11
  Speaker 12: So that kind of was a shock to us because
• 36:16
  Speaker 12: we kept asking them and they said, oh, we won't
• 36:18
  Speaker 12: take carry no more. Don't worry about So we cut everything,
• 36:21
  Speaker 12: absolutely everything except the very essentials. It's down to the
• 36:25
  Speaker 12: four of us again in one engineer and the four
• 36:27
  Speaker 12: founders again, keeping it afloat as best we can while
• 36:32
  Speaker 12: we seek for a replacement. And that becomes the challenge
• 36:35
  Speaker 12: for us. The difference is we have a product that's amazing.
• 36:40
  Speaker 12: We're ready to go into production, and it's finding that
• 36:43
  Speaker 12: person that says or that investor that says, hey, I'm
• 36:46
  Speaker 12: willing to pick up the pieces and run with it.
• 36:49
  Speaker 12: That's a huge challenge for any startup. Hardware is tough.
• 36:53
  Speaker 12: Telling me build a camera. Nobody wants to talk to you.
• 36:56
  Speaker 12: But I only have two hundred more to go and
• 36:57
  Speaker 12: then I catch up with the last last numb which
• 36:59
  Speaker 12: I'm doing pretty good.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: A man, So are you planning to go to CS
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five and obviously too, you know they
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: have the exhibitor showcase where people get out there and
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: they show they're good looking for investors.
• 37:14
  Speaker 12: So I'm wondering, Yeah, they have that, they have that
• 37:16
  Speaker 12: investor out I mean, you know, that's a good idea.
• 37:19
  Speaker 12: I wasn't thinking I'm going to see us. We uhould
• 37:21
  Speaker 12: get NAB right, just right, Yeah, because NAB is more.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Like that's the focus.
• 37:27
  Speaker 12: Yeah, but I should look into CEOs. I haven't been
• 37:29
  Speaker 12: to see us in a couple of years.
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: The other thing to think of, when you're talking about
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: trying to find potential investors, who had said, you know,
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: kind of the start that you were looking at creating
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: this for you know, looking at streamers and creating a
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: more professional feel for those streams. So you could also
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: look at going to something like Whitchcon. I mean, you
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: have big name streamers who have more money than frankly
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: any of us are ever going to see in our lifetime,
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: and it would I mean, uh, I off the top
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: of my head, there's uh, there's a guy he's now
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: what is it streamer sense say. I used to follow
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: him for your when I was starting out for all
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: my tips things like that. But you know there are
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: people like that who would happily slap their name to
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: be associated with something like that out the gate and
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: be like, oh you need X amount of dollars. Well, okay,
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: let me call my finance guy. But you know if
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: you also if you go to something like twitch Con,
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: then you're getting in front of all those people.
• 38:34
  Speaker 12: Yeah, and we usually we usually do twitch Con. We
• 38:37
  Speaker 12: did twitch Con last year. That was a blast. It
• 38:41
  Speaker 12: was in Las Vegas and and we had tons of fun.
• 38:45
  Speaker 12: And just the thing that that blew people away there
• 38:48
  Speaker 12: is when I put a battery pack on the green
• 38:50
  Speaker 12: screen and one of the guys picked up the green
• 38:53
  Speaker 12: screen walk walked down the alley aisle with it. Oh
• 38:55
  Speaker 12: oh my god. It just follows me wherever I go,
• 38:58
  Speaker 12: you know, And we had is on display there. It
• 39:03
  Speaker 12: was kind of a weird layout done and done Vegas before.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: So well, I don't know.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at this, Richard, and I'm just thinking, again,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: I'm blown away by it. We talked about a little
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: bit about it last time we talked, and I know
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: that we'll talk again too. I am again excited about this.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Can people purchase this now?
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Or is this? Is this going to be coming up?
• 39:27
  Speaker 12: So that will be coming up. What I do right
• 39:29
  Speaker 12: now is I'm taking reservations. They just go on our
• 39:31
  Speaker 12: website and you can reserve it. It's a no obligation reservation.
• 39:35
  Speaker 12: But what it does is it gives me a list.
• 39:36
  Speaker 12: And it's very important for us because when I sit
• 39:39
  Speaker 12: in front of an investor, I go, look, we're not
• 39:41
  Speaker 12: only promoting this, and I've got to listen. You know,
• 39:43
  Speaker 12: one hundred and two hundred people they're lying up ready
• 39:45
  Speaker 12: to buy this thing right now. And so that's kind
• 39:49
  Speaker 12: of the the approach we've taken. We're we're always very cautious.
• 39:55
  Speaker 12: It was an interesting group. We don't like it to go
• 39:57
  Speaker 12: out and antipicate, you know, in a marketing you know,
• 40:01
  Speaker 12: spew and then I'll produce anything. We're the other way around.
• 40:05
  Speaker 12: We want to have a finished product and say okay,
• 40:09
  Speaker 12: now we're ready to go. You know a lot of
• 40:11
  Speaker 12: people say, you know, when you take pre orders, I personally,
• 40:18
  Speaker 12: I don't want to do that till I know one
• 40:21
  Speaker 12: hundred percent I'm going to ship your product.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, excitement.
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: There's been many people gotten words about that.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:31
  Speaker 12: Yeah. And it's just not where It's not how we work,
• 40:34
  Speaker 12: it's not how we want to build that reputation. I'd
• 40:39
  Speaker 12: rather have one that we waited and when we were
• 40:44
  Speaker 12: ready to sell. When you you know, when you commit,
• 40:48
  Speaker 12: I'm sending you a product.
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: So we do a lot of remote stuff at the university,
• 40:52
  Speaker 8: right we do. We have sports venues spread out on
• 40:55
  Speaker 8: all across campus. We use a lot of fiber. If
• 40:57
  Speaker 8: I connect to this via a pair of single mode fiber,
• 41:02
  Speaker 8: what is my connectivity to the device? Is it just
• 41:04
  Speaker 8: video coming back? How do I control remotely from the
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: user end?
• 41:09
  Speaker 12: Just on a pair of fiber, you can get video
• 41:11
  Speaker 12: and audio because the camera has dual onboard mics. Plus
• 41:15
  Speaker 12: it's got an audio jack in the back, so you
• 41:17
  Speaker 12: can essentially put a mic onto it if you wanted
• 41:20
  Speaker 12: to control is over USB. But what we've done is
• 41:27
  Speaker 12: we build a module that creates a mesh network, so
• 41:33
  Speaker 12: then the camera becomes part of its own network and
• 41:37
  Speaker 12: you can daisy chain these things together and so you
• 41:39
  Speaker 12: can control you know, one hundred cameras from a single location,
• 41:45
  Speaker 12: all over wireless mesh network and then you would just
• 41:49
  Speaker 12: be running cable. You just be running either fiber or
• 41:52
  Speaker 12: SDI back to wherever your editing station was.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: It's great stuff, Richard, give us the website address.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Our listeners can get more about the green screen and
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: of course the cameras and you know, and getting on
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: this list because I might want to put my name
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: on that list as well, because this is great quality
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: and for broadcasts for on the list.
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: Did you yeah, just put my name on the list.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:18
  Speaker 12: So it's it's it's www dot sub to our sub
• 42:23
  Speaker 12: the number two the letter R dot com. And then
• 42:26
  Speaker 12: you know, if anybody out there has questions, just info
• 42:30
  Speaker 12: at subto our dot com, drop me an email. I
• 42:33
  Speaker 12: respond as fast as possible and you will get a
• 42:35
  Speaker 12: response from me, not from an AI bought or some
• 42:40
  Speaker 12: call center and some random part of the world.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: You know it'll be me awesome.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for coming on tech talk Radio.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Great stuff and looking forward to seeing this continue to develop.
• 42:51
  Speaker 12: Thank you everyone for your hospitality and sing again soon.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Richard are if we want to
• 42:58
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• 43:08
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• 43:10
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• 43:26
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• 43:35
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• 43:38
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• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Rick Darringer Rock and Roll Uchi Ku, and
• 43:43
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• 43:47
  Speaker 9: So during the break, I was just spewing information about
• 43:50
  Speaker 9: that camera.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Right we were talking about the camera.
• 43:52
  Speaker 9: Were talking about that all day long, but Andy told
• 43:53
  Speaker 9: me I how to wrap it up.
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: So back to So let's shift gears and talk about
• 43:58
  Speaker 8: drugs because everybody knows I love druns.
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's been no update to.
• 44:02
  Speaker 8: The Anti Drone Act, right, We've talked about how there
• 44:06
  Speaker 8: was a bill in the House that got passed to
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: ban drones from China and specifically Dji. Well, we talked
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: two shows ago about their new drone, the Air three S.
• 44:18
  Speaker 8: The US Customs and Border Protection is currently blocking imports
• 44:21
  Speaker 8: of that dram.
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: Oh my god man.
• 44:23
  Speaker 8: They say the action stems from concerns about forced labor
• 44:26
  Speaker 8: practices and some other technology based concerns. Like I said,
• 44:31
  Speaker 8: I think Dji was cramming in as many new models
• 44:34
  Speaker 8: of drunes as humanly possible.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Probably at the cop that I can put my drone
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: that's almost brand new, I can put it up on
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: eBay for like a premium right now.
• 44:44
  Speaker 8: I bet once the if they passed the Anti Drone Act,
• 44:48
  Speaker 8: people are going to be flocking to places like eBay
• 44:52
  Speaker 8: and other third third party resellers to buy existing drones.
• 44:56
  Speaker 9: So hold on to them.
• 44:58
  Speaker 8: But if you can, if you can get the new
• 45:00
  Speaker 8: one's in great, but it'll be interesting to see how
• 45:02
  Speaker 8: the drone the drone market goes forward here.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: They had told me at best Buy that because I
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: went in and I was like, where's their DJ They
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: used to have a display and it was gone and
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I was like, where's your display? And I said, always
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: it in advance. He said no, no, we're just moving it.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: And then the next time I had gone in, they
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: had put the display back up, but they had no
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: drones in there. Does that mean like Best Buy doesn't
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: even have them on the retail shelf.
• 45:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know from what I could just quickly
• 45:29
  Speaker 9: google and find out.
• 45:31
  Speaker 8: I'll to do some research on it, but right now
• 45:32
  Speaker 8: it seems like they're not being allowed to import it
• 45:35
  Speaker 8: right now.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about something I showed on television
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: on Fox eleven this past week.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: But what it is.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: You may have seen the commercials with Shaquille O'Neill and
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: his mom, Lucille, and they're talking about preserving Priceless Memories,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: which is a great ad campaign. It's the EPSO in
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Fast Photos six ' eighty w. This is a different
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: type of scanner, not a flatbet scanner. It looks like
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: a little printer and you just like you would feed
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: the paper, and you feed the photos in and coordinating
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: with your smartphone or your PC, you hit the scan
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: button and it's scans of photos about two seconds per photo.
• 46:12
  Speaker 7: Oh that's really fast.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: So and you know, I've been playing around with the
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: YouTube and a snapchat and TikTok, and so I found oh,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I'll do a video on this one. And I did,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: and Sean saw it, and unfortunately I cost Sean five
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: hundred bucks.
• 46:32
  Speaker 8: I haven't bought it yet because I have to talk
• 46:34
  Speaker 8: to Klan about it, right, But so you guys, I've
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: talked about this before. I did this massive photo and
• 46:42
  Speaker 8: video archive for my family, right all throughout COVID, you know,
• 46:46
  Speaker 8: twenty nineteen through COVID. And the one thing I was
• 46:49
  Speaker 8: struggling with, and the thing I haven't tackled yet, is
• 46:51
  Speaker 8: if I showed you the other side of my room,
• 46:53
  Speaker 8: the basement. Down here, I have a few cardboard beer
• 46:58
  Speaker 8: crates full of years and years and years and years
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: and decades worth of four by sixes, oh man, without
• 47:08
  Speaker 8: the negatives. So the negatives got destroyed, got lost, got
• 47:11
  Speaker 8: thrown away. So I just have the four by sixes.
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: Now it's a painstaking process. I have the absent V
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: six hundred, which is a fantastic scanner, right, but I
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: can only fit about four in there at a time,
• 47:23
  Speaker 8: and when I'm scanning at eight hundred tpi, it takes
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: four to five minutes per four and then I got
• 47:30
  Speaker 8: to open it and take them out. I get fingerprints
• 47:32
  Speaker 8: on the glass. Like it's it's a big pain.
• 47:35
  Speaker 9: Andy had sent me a one minute video of this
• 47:37
  Speaker 9: thing spitting out eight or nine pictures in about two minutes,
• 47:45
  Speaker 9: so that's I could just I could just stack them
• 47:48
  Speaker 9: in there and let it run. It's gonna go.
• 47:50
  Speaker 8: Like I was immediately said this, I have to have
• 47:52
  Speaker 8: this for this archive project I'm working on.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: If you're doing them on the computer or you're doing
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: on in your smartphone, the cool thing, Sean is you
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: can actually in just before you hit start scan, you
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: can tag them so you can tell that this is
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: from nineteen forty eight, this is from nineteen forty nine,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: this photo is was taken in the summer. You could
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: tag it this is you know the weird family, or
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: you know Caitlin's family, or.
• 48:18
  Speaker 8: Right, that's that's one of the big things that I've
• 48:20
  Speaker 8: been struggling with is who puts the data in?
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Yep, And that's right.
• 48:24
  Speaker 9: The medicata isn't get there by itself.
• 48:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so I'm adding that stuff in manually when i'm
• 48:29
  Speaker 8: you know, I bulk it, right. So it's like, I
• 48:32
  Speaker 8: have this folder from nineteen eighty and I'm telling it
• 48:36
  Speaker 8: this is these these files, these ones i'm scanning, are
• 48:39
  Speaker 8: this nineteen eighty, this event, these people are in them,
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: and I'm typing all that in while I'm scanning. So
• 48:45
  Speaker 8: this is like, this is relatively do I've never seen
• 48:49
  Speaker 8: this before. I would have searched for this.
• 48:52
  Speaker 9: But the only thing, obviously obviously the faster you do it,
• 48:54
  Speaker 9: the lower the dpi. Right, it says it'll scan up
• 48:57
  Speaker 9: to one photo per second at three hundred Pi. That's
• 49:00
  Speaker 9: pretty low for archive.
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: Just from the BNH Photo review, it says optical residents
• 49:06
  Speaker 8: and six hundred ppi max resolution twelve hundred ppi.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's even better. Well, that's what he can.
• 49:11
  Speaker 8: Do, one photo per second at three hundred. Now, if
• 49:13
  Speaker 8: you're just doing it for like uploading him for people
• 49:16
  Speaker 8: to look at on the web, that's more than a life.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't need to go six, you can go
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: three hundred and there. Look fine.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I said them to my kids and just to see
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: what they would say, because you know, my my daughters
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: are in them, and my daughter sent me, you know,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: back saying I can't get my eyes off dad's mullet.
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: Oh you still have that there?
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: I had the mullet back then. Yes, kids, Yeah, I
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: mean I.
• 49:40
  Speaker 8: Encourage anybody that's doing any any sort of photo archiving.
• 49:43
  Speaker 8: Look at this and it's it's on sale a little
• 49:46
  Speaker 8: bit right now on B and H.
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: So come on, Sean, just you know, you don't ask
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: for permission, just forgiveness. You know, it's come on, you
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: can do no. You don't know, you know, I'm divorced
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: guy on the progra.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: It's the single guy on the show, the single guy
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: of the show that said that, didn't.
• 50:06
  Speaker 6: We have a tagline for one of the shows a
• 50:09
  Speaker 6: few months back was me saying, I've only had to
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: miss make that mistake one.
• 50:18
  Speaker 9: Not to be fair, I have I have Impulse purchased
• 50:20
  Speaker 9: on the show before, and Caitlin was the recipient of that,
• 50:24
  Speaker 9: so maybe I could get away with something because it
• 50:26
  Speaker 9: was the mad was like get the ution, I mean
• 50:31
  Speaker 9: went online and bought it immediately, so I am an
• 50:34
  Speaker 9: online impulse buyer, so I have to be careful.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: We're coming up to November before before we take a break.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Who's getting the Microsoft sweater this year? Are they gonna
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: do a new one?
• 50:44
  Speaker 9: I don't know, but I probably buy it right now.
• 50:47
  Speaker 9: It's gonna be hard to beat last year's with the
• 50:48
  Speaker 9: Windows XP background.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: Oh, speaking of the Windows XP background, they actually just
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: released a four K upscaled version of what do.
• 50:57
  Speaker 7: They call it? Is it?
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: Is it Bliss?
• 50:59
  Speaker 7: Bliss? Yeah?
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they released a four K version of Bliss that
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: you can download now for Windows eleven. That would that
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: will fit you know, four K monitors.
• 51:06
  Speaker 8: And I still have the tag from that sweater. Just
• 51:08
  Speaker 8: happen you'd be sitting on my desk.
• 51:10
  Speaker 7: So that's cool.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Matt was looking that up. Did you see anything, Matt?
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: I see something in the Xbox gear shot, but I
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: don't see the official Microsoft one yet.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: They usually put them out by November first, so we'll
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: have to hope that we'll have to take another look
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: next week.
• 51:29
  Speaker 6: Well, I definitely found what I'm gonna buy from my
• 51:32
  Speaker 6: own ugly Christmas sweater that somebody made on their own
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: is Clippy.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: The Clippy.
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: It's it's Clippy sitting there on a stack of documents,
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: and instead of like would you like help, it.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Says happy holidays with a little.
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: OK like right underneath it. So I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: pick that up and just give tons of people uh
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: PTSD flashbacks off on the shelf.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: We should sell shirts with Slick as the elf of
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  Speaker 1: the shelf and put him in different situations. I think
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: that would be great.
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  Speaker 4: Elf hat Why why why are we doing that for Christmas?
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: That's more like a Halloween thing. We want to scare.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, We're gonna take a quick break, we come
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  Speaker 1: back more of tech Talk Radio.
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  Speaker 3: A listener question. We'll see if we can get to
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  Speaker 3: that one real quick.
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  Speaker 6: I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean Weird, i am Sick, I'm
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  Speaker 6: Matt Jones, and I'm justin send us an X at
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  Speaker 6: tech Talk Radio.
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  Speaker 5: And now back to tech Talk Radio.
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  Speaker 8: So during the break we will take a look at
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  Speaker 8: the listener questions. And we have Bill Rancho from Mirage, California.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Rancho, Mirage, we used that's where we started.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, from over there, I'm from Midwest. That's Rancho.
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  Speaker 4: There's nothing mister Mirage, we have your answer, he asks.
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  Speaker 8: I'm tired of type trying to type into my iPhone
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  Speaker 8: with that little on screen keyboard. One of the reasons
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  Speaker 8: I missed my black Berry is that there was an
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  Speaker 8: actual physical keyboard that would easily connect and give me
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  Speaker 8: a keyboard.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he said he.
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  Speaker 9: Would carry his desktop computer computer keyboard with him, but
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  Speaker 9: it would be covers. Well, I mean, yeah, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 9: any Bluetooth keyboard will work.
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  Speaker 3: They've got a couple that.
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  Speaker 8: Even They even have some that connect to the lightning
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  Speaker 8: adapter or the USBC for the new phone. So if
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  Speaker 8: you don't want to have a battery powered one, if
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  Speaker 8: you're looking for ones that are going to be more orgonomical,
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  Speaker 8: like get the ones that you can look at the
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  Speaker 8: ones they have for the iPads. They have them other So.
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  Speaker 1: The Logitech K four eighty is kind of cool. It's
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  Speaker 1: got a little groove you use it with the tablet
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  Speaker 1: or a smartphone. That one's kind of nice. And you
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  Speaker 1: could switch between three Bluetooth devices.
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  Speaker 3: So that's cool.
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  Speaker 1: But I want to check out and I think you
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  Speaker 1: just you just did a highlight of one.
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  Speaker 3: I want to check this out. Clicks.
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  Speaker 1: They it actually so your phone snaps into it and
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  Speaker 1: it gives you.
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  Speaker 3: Like a black blue it looks like a BlackBerry. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: exactly like it.
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  Speaker 6: If he's talking about missing the BlackBerry keyboard specific I
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  Speaker 6: think clicks. I'm looking at this right now. Clicks is
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  Speaker 6: definitely the way to go. Your phone will snap in
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  Speaker 6: there and you'll have the same old school feel of
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  Speaker 6: that BlackBerry keyboard with like the physical pressable buttons. But
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  Speaker 6: you know, a concern someone would have with that is like, well,
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  Speaker 6: I'm I going to lose the other features with this case.
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  Speaker 6: But I'm seeing like you're still having mag Safe is
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  Speaker 6: built in there. It's got passed through USB, so you're
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  Speaker 6: still able to transfer your data like you're you get
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  Speaker 6: all that space on your screen that normally where your
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: keyboard like comes up, get all that back because you
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: have the physical keyboard, so your screen looks like two
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  Speaker 6: times size. Now, So that's that might be the way
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  Speaker 6: to go.
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  Speaker 3: A little pricey though, aren't they. I mean it's yeah, it.
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  Speaker 7: Looks like a little prissy. About one hundred and.
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  Speaker 3: Sixty clicks dot tech is the website addressed.
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  Speaker 1: So that's it for this week's tick Maark Radio. I
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  Speaker 1: made me tailored I'm Sean.
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  Speaker 6: Weird, I am Slick, I'm mat Joe, and I'm Justin.
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  Speaker 4: Let me find us on the web tech talk radio
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  Speaker 4: dot com. Have yourselves great week.
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  Speaker 7: See you, m