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Pregnant teen held captive, tortured and killed, boyfriend beheaded by man they met online · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A pregnant woman tortured for
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  Speaker 1: days on end then murdered. Is it connected to online dating?
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  Speaker 1: And I hate to say that because, for instance, my nephew,
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  Speaker 1: you know him, Jackie met a beautiful, wonderful, brilliant woman online.
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  Speaker 1: They're married, they have a son, they're perfectly happy together,
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  Speaker 1: they just built a house. They're just you know, thrilled
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  Speaker 1: to be together. So it does work. Then there is
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  Speaker 1: the dark side of online dating. A pregnant woman tortured
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  Speaker 1: for days then murdered. I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. I'm talking about a
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  Speaker 1: beautiful young woman. Brook Slocum dead joining me an all
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  Speaker 1: star panel. Heather Walker, investigative reporter with Wood TV and
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  Speaker 1: Grand Rapids. Doctor Bethany Marshall, renowned California psycho unless you
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  Speaker 1: can find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com out
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  Speaker 1: of South Carolina. Doctor Michelle Dupree Homicide Investigation Field Guide
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  Speaker 1: is her book. She's a medical examiner and Stephen Lampley
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  Speaker 1: detective at Stephen Lampley dot com. First to you, Heather Walker. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is what I find and I'm just writing about
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  Speaker 1: this in a book. I just turned in the manuscript,
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  Speaker 1: Don't Be a Victim, and I'm writing about online dating.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Heather, people kind of have a stigma and
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  Speaker 1: they shouldn't when they online date, try to meet people.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. But Heather, I
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  Speaker 1: want to know about this beautiful woman, Brook Slocum, because
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  Speaker 1: somehow she's getting dragged through the mud. She's a dead,
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  Speaker 1: pregnant lady, and I don't like that. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is definitely a case. I mean I've after all
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  Speaker 1: of this unfolded. We did seek with their family and
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  Speaker 1: we read her diary. They shared some passages from there.
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  Speaker 1: She just seems like this innocent young girl who was
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  Speaker 1: in love and she happened to be pregnant, and she
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  Speaker 1: was just trying to do the best she could. White
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  Speaker 1: man a man at Heather Walker, You're like music to
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  Speaker 1: my ears. Because I would go visit victims' families or
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  Speaker 1: crime scenes. If I had found a diary or a journal,
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  Speaker 1: I would just said, Okay, we're gonna pick this up
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow and just sit right down on the floor and
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  Speaker 1: read that, because I want to know everything there is
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  Speaker 1: about my victims that I can find. Out you read
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  Speaker 1: brook Slocum's diary, what did you find out? It was heartbreaking.
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  Speaker 1: She was clearly very much in love with Charles Oppanier,
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  Speaker 1: this twenty five year old. She was eighteen at the time,
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  Speaker 1: he was twenty five. They met about a year before
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  Speaker 1: all this unfolded at I Own Your Free Fair. It's
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  Speaker 1: a very pop your affair here in West Michigan. Everyone
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  Speaker 1: knows about it. She was a junior going into her
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  Speaker 1: senior year at Saranac High School, and that's when they
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  Speaker 1: started dating and fell in love and became pregnant. Dating,
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  Speaker 1: fell in love, got pregnant. Now you heard Heather Walker
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  Speaker 1: joining us investigative reporter with wood WOD TV in Grand
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  Speaker 1: Rapids and typically to doctor Bethany Marshall, California's psycho analyst extraordinaire,
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany. When you hear boyfriend, husband, love or X,
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  Speaker 1: you immediately think, well, they did it. But the boyfriend,
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  Speaker 1: Charles Aupanier did not do it. He is not responsible
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  Speaker 1: for Brooks murder. So let me ask you this, why
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  Speaker 1: do we always assume it's the boyfriend husband X Nancy?
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  Speaker 1: We always look first to the boyfriend or to the
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  Speaker 1: most intimate partner because I'm sure everyone on the panel
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  Speaker 1: will agree with this. It is in the context of
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  Speaker 1: our most intimate relationships that we sometimes have the most
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  Speaker 1: hostile or negative of feelings. I mean, in my field,
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  Speaker 1: we know that hate and love life side by side.
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  Speaker 1: They coexist in our attachment system. So the feelings that
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  Speaker 1: lead to homicide, resentment, fear, anguish, envy, hatred are all
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  Speaker 1: derived from intimate attachment systems. And that's why we cast
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  Speaker 1: a very narrow net and then we go whiter and
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  Speaker 1: whiter whenever there's a homicide, especially of a young woman.
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  Speaker 1: You know, she's just so vulnerable. Doctor Bethany and doctor
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  Speaker 1: Michelle Dupree, you two on our panel today, knew me
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  Speaker 1: when I was pregnant, and you would very frequently be
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  Speaker 1: on with me at hull n And you know I
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  Speaker 1: was so ill there at the end. I was in
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  Speaker 1: a wheelchair. Of course the viewers didn't know that, and
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  Speaker 1: I was coughing so badly. I'd have a series of
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  Speaker 1: hand signals to my line producer Liz and my executive
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  Speaker 1: producer Dean to tell them we got to go to
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  Speaker 1: break or play sound or just something. I had a
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  Speaker 1: hand signals like you know, a baseball coach because I
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  Speaker 1: was so sick and I couldn't speak out because my
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  Speaker 1: mic was hot, and I'm just thinking about this young
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  Speaker 1: girl at just eighteen, pregnant, sadistically, sadistically murdered to Stephen Lampley,
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  Speaker 1: former detective. You can find him at Stephen Lampley dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Why do we always think it's the boyfriend or husband,
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  Speaker 1: and that's the place we start. The boyfriend or husband
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  Speaker 1: or wife or girlfriend is not always obviously the person
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  Speaker 1: who community crime, but that's where we start. And like
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  Speaker 1: she was saying a while ago, we start with the
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  Speaker 1: inner circle. We start with those that are closest because
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  Speaker 1: those are the those are the most feelings, and then
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  Speaker 1: when we eliminate those, part of the process is not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily finding the suspect, it's eliminating. So as we eliminate suspects,
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  Speaker 1: we broaden our scope outward. That's the way most homicide
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  Speaker 1: or kidnap investigations work. Heather Walker is with me here today,
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  Speaker 1: investigated reporter from woo DTV and Grand Rapids. Tell me
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  Speaker 1: about the area where they're from. I want to get
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  Speaker 1: an idea because you know, very often when you hear,
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  Speaker 1: for instance, New York Chicago, Detroit, Atlanta, San Francisco, La.
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  Speaker 1: You think big city, lots of crime, Wow, you ask
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  Speaker 1: for it. That's absolutely not true. I've lived in many
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  Speaker 1: of those cities and people are not asking to be
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  Speaker 1: crime victims. What can you tell me, Heather about this
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  Speaker 1: location where she was abducted. Yeah, that's absolutely not the case. Here.
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  Speaker 1: This is West Michigan. It's very conservative, it's very Christian,
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  Speaker 1: it's very safe. This is a place where people come,
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  Speaker 1: they move here to raise their families. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: these type of things don't happen every day, and they
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  Speaker 1: don't even happen in big cities, let alone right here
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  Speaker 1: in West Michigan. Now it's Wyoming, Michigan. Correct, Is that
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  Speaker 1: the area that's where the first crime scene is in Wyoming, Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: It's a small town. It's a suburb of Grand Rapi, Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: There is. It's a suburb of Grand Rapids, Michigan. Grand
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  Speaker 1: Rapids is the second largest city in the state of Michigan,
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  Speaker 1: Detroit being the first, Grand Rapids being the second world
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  Speaker 1: right by Lake Michigan. We're about forty five minutes away,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just a small suburb of Grand Rapids where
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  Speaker 1: there's affordable housing and like I said, it's safe, a
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  Speaker 1: good place to raise your kids. So this young girl
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  Speaker 1: looking for love online had a boyfriend who I think
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  Speaker 1: was on and off Charles Opener, Can I tell you
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  Speaker 1: how I know he's not the one who's sadistically tortured
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  Speaker 1: and murdered Brooks Locum because his severed head was found.
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  Speaker 1: He also a victim. But I want you to take
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  Speaker 1: a listen to what Brooks dad till my friend, doctor Drew.
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  Speaker 1: Is it true your daughter did have a history of
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  Speaker 1: meeting people online. Yes, she did, and she has got
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  Speaker 1: numerous letters to her barn children in the state that
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  Speaker 1: she has met men online looking for love. But all
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  Speaker 1: she really found was it made her feel cheap, dirty
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  Speaker 1: and used. And love is not manipulation. Love is unconditional,
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  Speaker 1: and she realized that and she didn't want to do
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  Speaker 1: it anymore. But she also wants to stay with the
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  Speaker 1: man that's at the father of her child, and she
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  Speaker 1: would do whatever it took to do that, even if
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  Speaker 1: it meant sacrificing herself in this sort of manner. Brooks
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  Speaker 1: Locm was likely held there for days. Pictures show what
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  Speaker 1: police found after they finally got into O Strike's home
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  Speaker 1: a very dirty home with clutter that had weapons like guns, knives, swords,
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  Speaker 1: and ammunitions sprinkled in every room, closet and shelf. They
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  Speaker 1: found restraints and other items in his basement like a
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  Speaker 1: dog kennel, women's clothing, happy and food, and ropes hanging
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  Speaker 1: from the ceiling, showing Brooks Locum was likely held there
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  Speaker 1: for days. Surveillance video from cameras that O Strike installed
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  Speaker 1: in his own home shows him on July seven, putting
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  Speaker 1: up ropes and cleaning out that same room in video
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  Speaker 1: showing him the night before this all went down, Those
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  Speaker 1: who knew Ostrike described him as a tormented man they
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  Speaker 1: feared could eventually snap. You were hearing from our friend
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  Speaker 1: Cassandra Arseno at Fox seventeen News snap. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: he's snapped. To prepare a dungeon, a torture chamber like that,
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  Speaker 1: that takes some doing. I want to go to doctor
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  Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, doctor Bethany to prepare a torture chamber, a
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  Speaker 1: sadistic torture chamber, that's got to take months to do. Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: not only did this take months, this perpetrator has been
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  Speaker 1: a state as to his life. I wouldn't be surprised
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  Speaker 1: if this is the kind of guy who tortured animals
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  Speaker 1: as a child, as we know so often happens with
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  Speaker 1: these severe sociopaths and psychopaths. This guy had a severe
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  Speaker 1: sexual perversion. He enjoyed inflicting cruelty and pain for his
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  Speaker 1: sexual pleasure. And Nancy, did you see the picture of
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  Speaker 1: that torture chamber he had like a change bolted into
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  Speaker 1: the wall. He had a dog channel. Okay, hold on
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  Speaker 1: just a moment, guys, if you want to follow along
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  Speaker 1: with what we're talking about, you can go to crime
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  Speaker 1: online dot com where these pictures are featured. Go ahead,
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  Speaker 1: doctor bethany Well, I think it's important for the viewers
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  Speaker 1: to know that there are five perversions voyeurism, frauderism, sadism, exhibitionism,
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  Speaker 1: and pedophilia. And usually when a person has one perversion,
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  Speaker 1: they have multiple perversions. And if you have a sociopath
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  Speaker 1: psychopath who has a perversion, you have somebody who's going
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  Speaker 1: to want to put together a torture chamber like this
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  Speaker 1: because sadly, what they like to do, the emo for
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  Speaker 1: this kind of a crime is that they want to
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  Speaker 1: inflict cruelty upon a victim for their sexual pleasure. That
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  Speaker 1: is the entire emmo behind this. And Nancy, when you
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  Speaker 1: look at the picture, I mean it looks like you
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  Speaker 1: put her in the dog cage. He put a steel
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  Speaker 1: collar around her neck, he chained her arms to the wall.
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  Speaker 1: I mean this was a prolonged attack, over the course
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  Speaker 1: of many, many days, and all motivated by sex. That's
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  Speaker 1: what it was motivated by sex, you know, doctor Bethany.
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  Speaker 1: I'm certainly not a string. But I don't think any
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  Speaker 1: act of violence is motivated by sex. Okay. I think
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  Speaker 1: that it's motivated by evil or desire for power or rage,
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  Speaker 1: and I think all that manifests through sex. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: you say tomato, I say tomato. Bottom line, Brook Slocum
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  Speaker 1: is dead and Charles open Ear as well, her young boyfriend.
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  Speaker 1: Heather Walker, investigative reporter WODTV. How does the boyfriend fit
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  Speaker 1: into this picture? He let me understand this. So she
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  Speaker 1: brick goes missing and she's held in a torture chamber
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  Speaker 1: and ultimately murdered. But what about Charles open Ear? Where
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  Speaker 1: does he fit into this scenario? Okay? So Charles Apanier
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  Speaker 1: was found. His body was found in Ghazan Park. It's
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  Speaker 1: a quiet park inside the suburb of Wyoming And unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: though that's all that was found his body, his head
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  Speaker 1: was missing. It was covered in a few sticks in
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  Speaker 1: this wooded area of the park, and nothing else around it.
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  Speaker 1: Brooke was nowhere to be found. His car was found
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  Speaker 1: in the parking lot, and it was only because a
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  Speaker 1: couple reported to police that they saw a man peering
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  Speaker 1: into their car with a white mask that the police
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  Speaker 1: went there and found his car, and that's where the
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  Speaker 1: search began for Charles Appanir too. Doctor Michelle Dupree, renowned
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  Speaker 1: medical examiner out of South Carolina, author of homicide investigation
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  Speaker 1: field Guy Dodger. Michelle, how often in your line of business,
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  Speaker 1: where you perform autopsies for a living, do you see
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  Speaker 1: a head actually severed from the victim's body. Well, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: maybe more often than you was. I've probably had five
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  Speaker 1: or six in my career. Okay, that is more than
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  Speaker 1: I thought you would say, although you know, in the
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  Speaker 1: big scheme of homicides, five or six is not a lot.
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  Speaker 1: But when you think about what it takes to actually
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  Speaker 1: sever someone's head physically, I mean, it's one thing to
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  Speaker 1: see it on a scary TV show or on some
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  Speaker 1: alleged crime show or a legal show. The reality of
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  Speaker 1: severing someone's head or dismembering them is very, very different,
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  Speaker 1: doctor Dupree. It is and it's very difficult. It actually
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  Speaker 1: takes a lot of strength to do that and a
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  Speaker 1: very long time. Now, you know, if you remember Dexter, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's the only thing that in Mystery Woman on Hallmark
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  Speaker 1: got me through my pregnancy, and Dexter would go through,
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  Speaker 1: you know, hours and hours and hours. Who was serial
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  Speaker 1: killer dismembering, getting rid of hiding evidence of homicides, right
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  Speaker 1: and track down a bad guy and kill them and
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  Speaker 1: get rid of the body. Nobody would ever know what happened.
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  Speaker 1: Not that typical killers go through all of that, not
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  Speaker 1: to get caught, because they don't. But it is a
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  Speaker 1: very very long process. Stephen Lampley Detective is Stephen Lampley
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  Speaker 1: dot com. To actually dismember somebody, it takes a long time,
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  Speaker 1: is gruesome and messy. It's an horrible act to be doing.
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  Speaker 1: It's not easy, you know. Jeffrey Dahmer, it took him hours,
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  Speaker 1: by his own confession, to dismember and then dispose of
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  Speaker 1: a body. It's a very difficult process, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: understand that, you know, do Dahmer's a good example, Steve
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  Speaker 1: Lampley to doctor Bethany. What is you know, just kill somebody,
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  Speaker 1: but you want to sever their head and dismember them.
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  Speaker 1: What's that about? Well, we were talking about the torture chamber, right,
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  Speaker 1: so we already know that he's a sadist. He likes
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  Speaker 1: to inflict pain and cruelty. He gets gratification out of it.
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  Speaker 1: We know that he tortured Brook over the course of
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  Speaker 1: five days, So I would imagine that the same evil
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  Speaker 1: torturess aspect of his personality that wanted to torture her
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  Speaker 1: also wanted to, I guest, derive some pleasure from decapitating
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  Speaker 1: this poor young man that you know, he was maybe
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  Speaker 1: polly perverse, meaning he wasn't just deriving sick, twisted sexual
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  Speaker 1: satisfaction from torturing Brook, but there was some sort of
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  Speaker 1: satisfaction that he derived from separating the head from the body.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that took some time. What did you call that? What? What?
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  Speaker 1: What is that? Polly perverse? Polly perverse almost like polysexual,
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  Speaker 1: that his sexual aims were not just towards Brooke, but
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  Speaker 1: were towards the male victim as well, that he didn't
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  Speaker 1: just want female victims, he wanted male victor. You know what,
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  Speaker 1: it's always an experience talking to doctor Bethany Marshall, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I've just got to say no offense, La. But
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  Speaker 1: ELA's just the perfect place for you, doctor Bethany, because
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  Speaker 1: I bet you have people lined up outside the door.
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  Speaker 1: Like Heather Walker is telling us, this is outside of
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  Speaker 1: Grand Rapids, this Wyoming, Michigan, and this is completely unheard
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  Speaker 1: of in that area. And to Heather Walker, investigative reporter
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  Speaker 1: wo DTV, So Brady O Strike meets Brook Slocum and
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  Speaker 1: Charles Opanier through a Craig's List ad. Okay, Craig's List ad,
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  Speaker 1: and this takes me back to the online dating issue.
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  Speaker 1: It was a dating ad and that is how he
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  Speaker 1: finds Brooke in a park along with Charles Opanier. So
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  Speaker 1: it's my understanding, Heather Walker that he decapitates Charles right
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  Speaker 1: there in the park and handcuffs Brooke and takes her away.
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  Speaker 1: Is that correct? That's right? I mean, honestly, this is
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  Speaker 1: like something from the movies and it is very much real.
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  Speaker 1: He decapitated Charles Opanier took the head with him, and
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  Speaker 1: then also took a brook Slocum with him. And we're
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  Speaker 1: not sure all of the details, but at some point
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  Speaker 1: he took Brooke back to his home, down to the basement,
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  Speaker 1: which that house has been called the house of Horrors
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  Speaker 1: by police. Down to the basement to what can be
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  Speaker 1: considered a sex chamber, I don't know what else to
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  Speaker 1: call it, where there was chains and whips and cameras
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  Speaker 1: recording all of these terrible things. And then at some
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  Speaker 1: point he also hid the head Charles up in here
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  Speaker 1: his head. Today, for the first time, we're hearing from
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  Speaker 1: a close friend of killer Brady O Strike, who said,
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  Speaker 1: oh Strike called her in the midst of the crime.
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  Speaker 1: Ken Kulker spoke with her today. Ken joins us in
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  Speaker 1: studio control. So she says he called her two Sundays ago,
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  Speaker 1: apparently the same day he started holding brook Slocum captive,
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  Speaker 1: but acted as if nothing was wrong. He called with
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  Speaker 1: the norm hey, Cheeka, how are you doing. It's possible
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  Speaker 1: that by then he had already killed Charles Openeer and
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  Speaker 1: was holding Opener's pregnant girlfriend brook Slocum in his Wyoming Home.
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  Speaker 1: Police say he held her captain for five days before
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  Speaker 1: strangling her on Thursday. I thought about it a lot,
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  Speaker 1: and his actions and attitude of the phone more non
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  Speaker 1: different to normal than that. That's what bothers me. She
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  Speaker 1: had medow Strikes seven years ago, sometimes went to medieval
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  Speaker 1: Renaissance affairs with him. Said he owned his own suit
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  Speaker 1: of armor. He had taught her eleven year old daughter
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  Speaker 1: how to shoot a gun, but she said he had
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  Speaker 1: been quote unquote seriously depressed since breaking up with his fiancee.
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  Speaker 1: She wonders if that somehow led to this. He didn't
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  Speaker 1: smile a smile chicken bath as much. Yeah, he said
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  Speaker 1: a couple of times that, yeah, he felt worthless. During
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  Speaker 1: that phone call two Sundays ago, apparently in the midst
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  Speaker 1: of those crimes, they talked about work and made plans
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  Speaker 1: for a visit together. She says she can't explain the
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  Speaker 1: killings or why her friend would decapitate up an air.
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  Speaker 1: You're hearing from our friend Ken Colcher at wo DTV
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  Speaker 1: eight speaking to one of a Strike's friends, who said
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  Speaker 1: he was seemingly normal while he had captives. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't get it. Doctor Bethany because everyone seems to
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  Speaker 1: be acting like, oh, he was a little sad and
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  Speaker 1: he had a breakup, so maybe he kidnapped two people,
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  Speaker 1: severed ahead and tortured a young girl for a week
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  Speaker 1: before murdering her. Well, I don't get that connection. He
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  Speaker 1: was sad, he had a breakup, so he committed double murder.
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Nancy, I heard the same thing you did
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  Speaker 1: in this interview when she says, you know, he taught
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  Speaker 1: my eleven year old daughter how to shoot a guy.
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  Speaker 1: A little more hung up by him having his own
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  Speaker 1: suit of armor for the Medieval Renaissance festival. But I mean,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: ladies said, if you're listening, you went into a guy
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: of armor, run the other way as if you had
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: seen a monster. Please listen to me on this had
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: a huge gun collection, not that there's anything wrong with that.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: A filthy home covered in surveillance cameras. As a matter
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: of fact, isn't it true, Heather Walker w o DTV
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: that he actually videoed through the home security system all
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: of his torture of Brooke. That's correct, He's set up
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: a camera. I mean this took a lot of plady.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: We have video that police have released of him preparing
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: this basement for Brooke, so he had this all plan.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: He set up the camera so it would capture all
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: of this. Now, of course those videos will never be
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: released and thank goodness, but yeah he was and you
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: know you talk about that friend. There's also a police
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: were told that a one time girlfriend told him there
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: were pins in his basement of locations where he stored
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: food and supplies an event of apocalypse. I mean, he
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: had chains, handcuffs. He had written on tape to one
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: mirror with a poem play pain helps us learn, Pleasure
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: helps us forget. He had other writings on the walls
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: obey and pleasure, my master, pleasure, I must earn it
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: about a lot of mentions of master. And apparently she
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: actually Brook Slocum had to sign this okay, essentially an
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: alleged Slafe master contract. But the girl and a handcuffs
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: with a choke around her neck. And in one of
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: the videos, just before he murders upon Air and kidnaps Brook,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: you see him on the video walking around with a
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: chain and a padlock in his hand, laying out ladies underwear.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Apparently he kept her in a dog kennel. It's a
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: big dog cage about the size I have for a
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: fat boy to sleep in at night. He's a docksin,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: but I got him the really big one. But it's
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: certainly a human would have to be in there, crouched
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: in a ball. There were suitcases full of bloodstained women's
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: clothing and other undergarments. In his home. There were maps
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: dotted with pins from coast to cost and an ex
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: girlfriend tells police they were markers where he had dumped
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: food in case of an apocalypse. Okay again, when you
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: went into a guy that is planning for the apocalypse,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: run the other way. To Heather Walker wo DTV, tell
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: me that about the discovery of Charles Apinier's head, this
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: was just unbelievable. We didn't think, we didn't know if
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: we were ever going to find the head. A lot
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: of times killers they keep some kind of souvenir from
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: their killings, and we thought we may never know where
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: this is. But more than four years later, farmer was
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: taking a walk on his land out in the country,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: more than seventeen miles away from where Opener's body was
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: found at Gazon Park, and he found a head and
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: he immediately called police and they came out there, and
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: of course that was everyone's thought was is this Charles
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Openier's head? Did they finally find his head? And the
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: medical examiner came back and it was indeed his head.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: So how long it's been there, how it got there,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: why it was there, why he chose that location is
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: unclear because police say there's no known connection between that
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: piece of land too and radiodical examiner out of South Carolina,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: author of Homicide Investigation field Guide, doctor Dupree, How do
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: you go about identifying a skeletonized skull? And how well
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: does it take a skull to skeletonize Nancy? Those are
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: all very good questions. First of all, we can identify
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: the skull by using a different type of DNA. There's
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: something called mitochondrial DNA which will last a lot longer,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: and we were able to get that from skull without
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: their tissue remains. Secondly, it really on the weather and
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the environment that lives in. Certainly it could be several months,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: it could be even longer than that up to completely
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: deteriorate to a skeleton. Take a listen to our friends
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: at wood TVA. I don't want to say Brady was
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: the kind of guy that just wanted to kill people,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think he just kind
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: of wanted to kill people. Twenty three year old Brittany's
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: a midas who says she regularly hung out with Brady O.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Strike signed her name on a wall on his basement,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: illuminated by a black light, next to the names of
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: other friends who had visited. And it's not the hellish
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: environment everyone's making it out to be. Oh my gosh,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: it bugged me so much. It's been described as a
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: dungeon where a Strike held brook Slocum captive for five
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: days before strangling her. I described his house as like
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: a naughty drawer, lots of restraints, handcuffs, sex toys, she says,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: but his whole house was like that, not to mention,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: like one corner of his house he would have that,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the other corner you would have guns, the other corner
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: you have knives, and the other corner would have nerdy stuff.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: She described him as a good friend who spent time
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: with her watching movies, playing video games, always bought dinner,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: even gave her one thousand dollars on her twenty second birthday.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: He was probably one of the most generous friends I've had,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: She said he had grown darker since his fiance broke
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: up with him about a year ago, but told her
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: he was going through therapy to get help, but he
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: was at his darkest when she last saw him, she says,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: at a bar downtown about a month ago. He said
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: he wished he can go back in time to an
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: era in time where he can just kill people with
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: his bare hands. Crime stories with meatcy Break. A farmer
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: in northern Kent County came across the skull last week
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: while he was out for a walk on his property. Today,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Wyoming police confirmed to us that those remains belonged to
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Charles Opener, and the skull was found near six Mile
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Road and to Knaway Avenue last Sunday. That's more than
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: seventeen miles away from Gazam Park in Wyoming, where Opener's
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: body was found back in twenty fourteen. Asked for Opener,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the medical examiner says it looked like he was shot
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: in the head before he was beheaded. This afternoon, his
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: family was notified that their son was found. Well, you know,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: it's hard to value exactly what they're feeling right now,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: but I can tell you the hearts and minds of
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: the Wyoming police that put so much time in effort
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: and emotion in this case. They're just hurting for them,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure this brings it all right back up
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: to the surface and our heartbreaks for them, but we
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: certainly hope that there'll be some peace that comes with it.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: The deaths of two young people. Brook Slocum, young girl pregnant.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Her boyfriend Charles up in Eer, also murdered. It was
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: his skull found seventeen miles away from the rest of
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: his body. He had been shot before he was then
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: beheaded to doctor Bethany Marshall, Doctor Bethany, do you believe
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: that these are radio strikes only victims? I do not.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I think that he was doing this for a long
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: long time. I mean even you said there was blood soap,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: women's underwear in this torture chamber. And I have to
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: go back to this friend for a second. She is
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: so minimizing his crime. I mean, did you hear her
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: say that it was just he's like a normal nerdy guy,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: you know, s and m equipment in one corner, guns
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: and another, as if this is all no big deal.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I heard that. It sounds like she's saying it was
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: just your regular man cave with a dungeon and tortured devices.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: It's amazing to me how people go through their life
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: with blinders. That's right. It's like she had no idea
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: that there was anything wrong with this. Plus Heather walk
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: or Wood TV, there was apparently a previous let me
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: just say girlfriend in a very very loose sense of
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: the word, that was tortured and held prisoner by a
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: strike and she managed to live. Yes, yeah, I mean,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: like I said, this is all so bizarre. And the
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: weirdest thing is that we spoke with multiple family members
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: and said, did you see any signs? Were you concerned
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: at all? And everyone replied, no, no, No, everything's fine.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: He's a normal guy. He's a little quirky, but he
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: would never do this. He never expected this, no signs.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: So to you, doctor Bethany, why do you believe these
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: are not his first victims? What leads you to think that? Well,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: because we first of all, I would say he's a psychopath,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: not a sociopath, because with psychopathy you have have the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: addition of cruelty. You have all these other traits of
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: the sociopath, but you have cruelty as an overlay and
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: usually the cruelty starts in early adolescence, late childhood. As
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: you know, these perpetrators often have history of torturing and
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: mutilating animals. And I believe that for him this was
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: a compulsion, and he organized his whole life around the compulsion.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: You know, there's a very ritualistic quality to gathering the chains,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: the dog collars, the dog kennel, everything that he used
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: to entrap women. I would have a hard time believing
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: that his fantasy life alone would satisfy his statistic sexual desires.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I would think that this is the kind of guy
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: who had had to have acted this out a long
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: time before this, especially since he severed the male victim's head.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: This is a person who's put enormous energy into killing.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Why would he have not done it before? He just
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: got caught this time? To Heather Walker DTV, are you
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: convinced do you believe disbelieve that these are his only victims?
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, and I don't know if
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: we will ever know, because unfortunately, the only person who
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: knows is dead. I hope it's his only victim. But
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I do agree with the doctors that once you see
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: this kind of behavior and all planned out. It's hard
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: to believe to doctor Bethany, Doctor Bethany, why video, What
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: motive would he have to videotape what he was doing?
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: And what do you think he planned to do with
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: the tape. I think he was doing something called spectatoring
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: that while he was torturing, mutilating, having his way with her,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: he was also fantasizing as if a third party was
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: watching him, and he was also anticipating that he would
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: later use those videos for his own sexual gratification. This
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: was not intended to be a one time you know,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: buying torture kill like the BTK killer. This was intended
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: to become a part of his treasure trove of sex toys.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: You know how porn addicts will have all these you
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: know links on their computers, you know, two different favorite
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: porn sites. This would be a part of his own
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: cash of personalized pornography so to speak, that he thought
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: he would be able to use again and again. I
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: also see it as one of his trophies. You know,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: serial killers keep trophies. It could be underwear, it could
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: be a driver's license, It gonna be a piece of jewelry,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: It could be anything from their victim, even a tooth
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: for instance, And this video I think would be one
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: of his trophies. And also question what do you make
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: of his use of Craigslist as a way to catch
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: his victims. Well, sexual predators prey on vulnerable populations. We
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: know that. That's why prostitutes are often killed by serial
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: killers hikers who are out in the woods alone. So
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: this is a kind of guy who's going to choose
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: the most vulnerable of victims because he's a coward. He's
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: not going to do it with a friend who knows
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: him and might try to report him to the police.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: He's not going to grab somebody off the street. He's
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: going to choose an eight month pregnant, eighteen year old
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: young girl who needs fifty dollars of cash so she
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: can get medication. That's his ideal victim because he can
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: have the ultimate power over her. And we're better get
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: to find somebody like that than on craiglist. There's anonymity
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: he controlled the Internet and often again like sex addict,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: for porn addicts may have all their favorite porn videos
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: lined up, and there's kind of a ritualistic quality to
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: categorizing them. There was probably a ritualistic quality to go
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: him on Craig's list, trolling for victim. I want you
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: to take a listen to what we have learned. This
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: is wo dtv's Susan Shaw. This is a story that
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: has been unfolding for nearly a week now. According to police,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Charles Opener and Brook Slocum were last seen Saturday night
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: leaving their apartment in Grand Rapids. On Wednesday, Opener's body
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: was found in a wooded area near Gazon Parkway in Wyoming,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: and then yesterday police were considering Slocum as a missing person.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Last night, the situation started unraveling as officers requested a
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: warrant to search Brady O Strike's home. While they were
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: waiting for the warrant, O Strike got into his car
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: and he left the house. Police tried pulling him over,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: and he briefly stopped before taking off again. He ended
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: up crashing on the Burton Street Bridge over US one
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: thirty one overpass. Police say that after the crash, o
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Strike shot and killed himself. When police searched his car,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: they found Slocum's body in the trunk. Wow, driving around
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: with a day body in your trunk? I mean the
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: psychopathy behind that is beyond anything I can understand. Stephen Lampley,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: do you believe these were his first victims yesterday? Oh?
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I don't, don't, Nancy. And the one thing that concerted
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: to me about this is I understand that his profession
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: was alignman, and my question would be, has he participated
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: in any out of town fixes? I guess, for lack
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: of a better word, where aligneman go from town to
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: town to work on different cities where they've had a
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: catastrophe or some weather event. I would, I would the
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: answer to looking at that, the family now gets comfort
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: cold comfort though it is radio strike commence suicide. The
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: story goes on and I only wonder what, if anything,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: can we learn? Nancy Grace Crimes story signing off, goodbye friend.
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