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11/25/2025 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - Rich the Realtor on Thanksgiving Homes, Market Slowdowns, and the Rent vs. Buy Reality · The Dave Allen Show

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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving Week hours. Of course, Tony is going to be
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Speaker 4: If you need more.
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Speaker 3: Information, visit Tony's Facebook page or check out Bestmaster Tailor
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Speaker 3: dot com. And I was talking to mister Parnzino earlier
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Speaker 3: in the morning and we were talking some things about
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Speaker 3: Small Business Saturday. Did not realize this, and Tony is
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Speaker 3: going to come on the show tomorrow that Tony the
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Speaker 3: Taylor was one of the first businesses, actually the first
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Speaker 3: business ever to participate in Small Business Saturday in Charleston.
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Speaker 3: Now it could just be another one of Tony's stories, Okay,
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Speaker 3: but I'm saying that's what he told me on the
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Speaker 3: phone this morning. But I'll let him explain it coming
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Speaker 3: up on the show tomorrow. Bigley Pickley Wiggley Hotline three
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Speaker 3: in the valleys. To take it easy on the interstates
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Speaker 3: or anywhere you may be driving. It looks like we
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Speaker 3: could have some heavy rain later in the day, maybe
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Speaker 3: in some thunder and lightning thrown in there as well.
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Speaker 3: As I mentioned this Saturday, Small Business Saturday across America,
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Speaker 3: and we'd like to encourage you to shop small when
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Speaker 3: you can. Rick Cavnor from Charleston Urban Works is going
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Speaker 3: to join us a little bit later on the show
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Speaker 3: to talk about that. Plus good friend of ours, Greg Thomas,
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Speaker 3: is going to be here as well. Let me welcome
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Speaker 3: to the show. Now another good friend. It's Rich the
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Speaker 3: realtor makes Realty. Hey doing man, Hey, good good morning,
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Speaker 3: Happy Thanksgiving to you as well. Are you ready for
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Speaker 3: your wife's famous bag beans. It's your favorite side dish. Well,
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Speaker 3: you know, I kind of go back and forth on
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Speaker 3: the side dishes. Tony, Tony, I'm sorry, Rich, Rich, Steve, Alice, whatever, youna.
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Speaker 3: But my wife does make the best big beans in
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Speaker 3: the world. And I have said this before. They are
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Speaker 3: it's kind of like it's like meat with a few
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Speaker 3: beanstone in it, because she does like the peppers, and
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Speaker 3: it's ground beef and and there's some beans in there.
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Speaker 3: And of course it's hot, because everything we make in
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Speaker 3: our house hot.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's kind of almost a chili though, is
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Speaker 4: it not.
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Speaker 3: No, it's chili esque. I guess it's it's in the family,
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Speaker 3: their cousins. They hang out at the reunion, right.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: Actually, she she told me this last week because it's
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Speaker 3: just just me and her for Thanksgiving and everything has
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Speaker 3: to be done by four to twenty five, and the
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Speaker 3: Cowboys beat the Chiefs, so everything's got to be done
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Speaker 3: by then, and means I have to have all the
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Speaker 3: dishes washed by then. That's what it means. We're not
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Speaker 3: actually doing Turkey this year. We are doing cornish hens.
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Speaker 3: From what I understand what I've been told, We're gonna
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Speaker 3: do corn, which is like how different? That's those are good.
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Speaker 4: I love them.
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Speaker 3: It's like having your own little individual turkey. Yeah and
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Speaker 3: uh and you get to eat it with your fingers. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: well I eat make beans with my fingers. Remember, remember,
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Speaker 3: I am from I am from Logan, So let's let's
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Speaker 3: keep that going. High Rich Surrealtor is here. He comes
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Speaker 3: in from time. What's your favorite Thanksgiving side?
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Speaker 6: Is?
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Speaker 3: Because I know you and the lovely Sarah are always
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Speaker 3: taking pictures and posting them on my line.
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Speaker 1: So I've always been a green bean cast role fan.
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Speaker 1: At please don't please, don't come at me.
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you're the other guy, because green
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Speaker 3: bean cast role gets so much hate and I love it.
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Speaker 1: I know, I like it and uh I used to
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Speaker 1: fight with my niece and nephews about it.
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Speaker 4: Who's going to get the biggest portion and all that stuff.
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Speaker 4: I just I've always enjoyed it.
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Speaker 1: So uh. But Sarah makes so many good things too.
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Speaker 1: So she's got a homemade mac and cheese. You're a
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Speaker 1: cook too, I am. But thanks we do this together Thanksgiving.
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Speaker 1: We team up on this because we're hosting, so it's
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Speaker 1: a I'm kind of in charge.
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Speaker 4: Of the turkey.
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Speaker 3: I people, you haven't over in my lost track, and
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Speaker 3: why am I not one someone?
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Speaker 1: Well, you and ruth Aner are happy that we have
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Speaker 1: we have we have room for you, so come on over.
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Speaker 1: But we're not doing cornish to ten. We're doing turkeys, okay,
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Speaker 1: but I'm doing a dry Brian this year on the turkey.
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Speaker 1: I usually Brian the turkey, and this year I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to dry Brian. So okay, I'll let you know how
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Speaker 1: that go. Sounds good.
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Speaker 3: I like the side dishes just as much as a turkey.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we've talked about my wife's baked beans. But
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Speaker 3: I will tell you I love dressing. Dressing is my
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Speaker 3: I mean dressing, stuffing, whatever you want to call it.
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Speaker 1: No glories and no not on Thanksgiving, not on Thanksgiving,
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Speaker 1: not loud all right, So we're not gonna turn this.
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Speaker 3: Into the food. Yeah, but what's what's going on in
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Speaker 3: the world of rich the real TI?
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Speaker 4: You have some properties you want to do, I do.
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Speaker 1: I've got some listings I want to just talk about
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Speaker 1: to make sure everybody's aware and that you know, it's
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Speaker 1: kind of a different time of the year right now
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Speaker 1: where things are a little slower in real estate world
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Speaker 1: where people are talking turkeys and you know, holidays, and
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Speaker 1: I guess we're thirty days from Christmas already. Today is
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Speaker 1: twenty fifth. So but anyway, I've got some listings I
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Speaker 1: want to talk about. My newest listing is actually in
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Speaker 1: the South Hills. It's a beautiful little, not really little,
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Speaker 1: twenty two hundred square feet or so in the South Hills.
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Speaker 1: It's a three level split homes. It's got some unique
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Speaker 1: characteristics about the home. It's located at one twenty eight
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Speaker 1: McGovern which is off of Hickory. So just take Hickory
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Speaker 1: off of one nineteen and then just a little bit
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Speaker 1: up the hill, go left on mcgovernin and you'll find this.
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Speaker 1: You'll find the science taking to the home. It's at
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Speaker 1: the end of could Sacks, so it's got some privacy
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Speaker 1: back there. Beautiful overlooking deck into the woods. That's just
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Speaker 1: it'd be a great place to sit and have your
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Speaker 1: morning coffee or whatever that is what you like to
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Speaker 1: do in the morning. But it's three bedroom, one and
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Speaker 1: a half bath, Like I said, almost twenty two hundred
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Speaker 1: square feet. It's a newer roof on it, some fresh
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Speaker 1: paint throughout it's just really something.
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Speaker 4: To go see. So it's great neighborhood. Yeah, it's a
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Speaker 4: great neighborhood there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, two seventy four to nine on this house that
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Speaker 1: just hit the market recently, so love for you to
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Speaker 1: check that out. I've got the one in Windfield which
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Speaker 1: is one thirty four Waterside Cool. It's a beautiful home
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Speaker 1: for four bedroom, two and a half bath, all brick
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Speaker 1: and in a flat neighborhood in Windfield's one of the
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Speaker 1: Leslie Leslie neighborhoods there and it's listed at four ninety
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Speaker 1: nine nine.
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Speaker 4: It's a beautiful home there. You should go and.
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Speaker 1: Check that out as well. Give me a call or
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Speaker 1: your real Turk course and we can get you in there.
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Speaker 1: Still have one in stone Gate Subdivision and Hurricane that
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Speaker 1: is kind of the older, one of the new, one
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Speaker 1: of the first ones to really build some of those
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Speaker 1: giant homes. And this house is eighty five hundred square
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Speaker 1: feet so takes a family to occupy that kind of
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Speaker 1: a home. But it's listed at eight seventy four nine
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Speaker 1: and it's six bedrooms and five and a half baths
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Speaker 1: and sits on a full acre lot. I mean it
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Speaker 1: just has three wet bars and two kitchens, and it's something.
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Speaker 1: It's quite something to see. It's got it.
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Speaker 4: Sure that's not a restaurant, you know, it could be.
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Speaker 1: They have the two kitchen concept was kind of weird
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Speaker 1: for the current occupants and for me when I saw it.
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Speaker 1: But they, you know, they use one of them as
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Speaker 1: kind of a up kitchen and then they transfer things
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Speaker 1: to their service kitchen, which is out kind of in
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Speaker 1: the middle of the open so they can keep the
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Speaker 1: mess in the back.
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Speaker 3: And you know, that sounds like, because you're talking about
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Speaker 3: a number of people that you're entertaining for Thanksgiving, Rich,
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Speaker 3: that sounds like the kind of place would be perfect
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Speaker 3: for you. Well, yeah, it's a little big for just
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Speaker 3: Sarah and I, but you have a lot of guests
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Speaker 3: that we do a couple times a year.
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Speaker 4: We'll do that.
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Speaker 1: So and then we have our friend's house in Rosehill
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Speaker 1: Acres in Scott Depot that's seventy five points out of
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Speaker 1: you that's under contract.
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Speaker 4: It's kind of contingency on it.
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Speaker 1: Those so still looking for you know, the right buyery
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Speaker 1: will still have time to get into that house at
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Speaker 1: the top of Rosehill Acres. This house is also Giants
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Speaker 1: fifty six hundred square feet, has six bedrooms and six baths.
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Speaker 1: It has a twenty three hundred square foot basement that
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Speaker 1: doesn't it's not included in the fifty six hundred. Has
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Speaker 1: a full gem down there in asauna. It's it's just
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Speaker 1: immaculate down there, and just you can turn that part
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Speaker 1: of that basement into whatever you like. Has the pool
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Speaker 1: and just a beautiful home. Scott Depot for seventy nine
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Speaker 1: to nine. That house is listed for So I.
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Speaker 3: Want to go back to a term you use there
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Speaker 3: because a lot of times you do hear a lot
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Speaker 3: of terms in real estate contingency. What exactly does that mean?
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Speaker 3: Explain that to people.
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Speaker 1: So there are some built in contingencies in the contract
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Speaker 1: language for many options for buyers and sellers to for protection.
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Speaker 1: So you know, an easy contingency would be your financing contingency,
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Speaker 1: so that if you apply for your loan and for
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Speaker 1: some reason something happens, you know, God forbid you lose
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Speaker 1: a job, or if you change jobs, or if you
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Speaker 1: make a purchase during the process, realtors and lenders will
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Speaker 1: you know, have heart attacks. Don't do that if you've
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Speaker 1: entered into a any time after you have your pre approval.
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Speaker 1: We don't want you to enter into any kind of
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Speaker 1: credit or new credit or transfer of money because it
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Speaker 1: could change your debt income ratio. So the lenders will
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Speaker 1: lock you in based on what you tell them at
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Speaker 1: that time. But that contingency if you were to change jobs,
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Speaker 1: something happen and your financing doesn't get a proved and
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Speaker 1: that contingency allows you to cancel the contract without fault. Okay,
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Speaker 1: the same thing on if you're trying to buy a house.
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Speaker 1: The House of Rosa Lakers as an example. The buyers
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Speaker 1: have agreed to buy this house, but only if they
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Speaker 1: sell the house they're trying to sell. So they have
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Speaker 1: a contingency on this one to sell their house first,
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Speaker 1: and if it doesn't sell, then they can cancel their contract.
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Speaker 4: Because what you.
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Speaker 3: Don't know can hurt you, all right, So here's the
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Speaker 3: age old question. I know I've asked you this before,
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Speaker 3: but I'm gonna have you give me an answer to
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Speaker 3: it again, renting versus buying, because there are a lot
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Speaker 3: of younger people, and you know, here's what I hear
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Speaker 3: from a lot of younger people. I mean, I'm a
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Speaker 3: gen X guy. I guess you're technic your gen X too,
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Speaker 3: aren't you. I'm right on the border, all right, so.
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Speaker 4: I still dangle my feet down.
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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so but but you know, it used
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Speaker 3: to be people would say, well, the time you're and
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw out a it's an arbitrary age here.
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Speaker 3: By the time you're twenty five or twenty six, you
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Speaker 3: should be able to buy a home or maybe maybe thirty.
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Speaker 3: I'll just up ato thirty. That's what they used to say.
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Speaker 3: I hear from a lot of young people, though, that
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Speaker 3: have full time jobs, college educated or trade school educate. Well,
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Speaker 3: you know, they have an education of some sort that
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Speaker 3: say that there's no way that they could possibly buy
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Speaker 3: a house today because they're more expensive when you even
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Speaker 3: when you factor in everything, you know, as far as
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Speaker 3: inflation whatever, that they're more expensive now than what they
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Speaker 3: would have been twenty thirty years ago. To that you
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Speaker 3: would say to what young person.
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Speaker 4: I think everybody's situation is slightly different. One of those.
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Speaker 1: This is going to sound a little politically correct, but
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Speaker 1: to each it's not. It's not a one size fit
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Speaker 1: all scenarios. So I've sold homes to twenty year olds
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Speaker 1: who have their act together, have a solid job, have
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Speaker 1: a good work history, they're credit as solid, and they
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Speaker 1: can buy a house. I mean, that's just how that.
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Speaker 1: And then I've talked to thirty year olds who have
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Speaker 1: a hard time. Typically it comes down to your debt
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Speaker 1: to income ratio. But you know, renting can be an
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Speaker 1: option for some people. It might be the right thing
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Speaker 1: to do if you don't have a little bit of
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Speaker 1: a nest egg. If homeowners need to have a little
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Speaker 1: bit of a nest egg in case something happens through
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Speaker 1: the house, you know if you're and it does, trust me,
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Speaker 1: it does, so be prepared for that now it can
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Speaker 1: have You know, I'm not just a realtor. I'm you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm a dad and a grandfather, and I'm going to
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Speaker 1: give advice to my children that you know, if you
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Speaker 1: can get into a home, to buy a home, it's
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Speaker 1: it's still the best investment that you can make. Our
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Speaker 1: friend Travis would not agree, but we know, we know
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Speaker 1: that it is. And but you have to be able
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Speaker 1: to afford it. You could get into a homeownership and
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Speaker 1: then let that really bankrupt you, you know, if you're
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Speaker 1: not prepared for what could happen. So sometimes renting is
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Speaker 1: the right option for young people. I think sometimes the
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Speaker 1: younger folks are looking for they're a little afraid of
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Speaker 1: what's you know, the thirty year more can be and
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Speaker 1: commit to something what that seems like that's a long time,
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Speaker 1: even though they're probably not going to pay that thirty
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Speaker 1: year loan off the statistics say they want they're going
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Speaker 1: to sell the house, they're going to move on, they're
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Speaker 1: going to engage in another one, you know, and gosh,
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Speaker 1: they're talking about a fifty year loan now. So and
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Speaker 1: you know that comes up from time to time. Now too,
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Speaker 1: is what do I think about that? I'm like, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's an option. I would never recommend it, but it's
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Speaker 1: an option for people. And you know, so is the
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Speaker 1: eighty four month loan on a car. You know, it's
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Speaker 1: not the right financial decision, but it might be the
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Speaker 1: right option for.
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Speaker 4: That one person.
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Speaker 3: It was floated around, and I know you're limited what
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Speaker 3: you can say, and we're going to get you out
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Speaker 3: of here. But floating around a couple of weeks ago,
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Speaker 3: there was all this stuff and it was about fifty
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Speaker 3: year mortgages and things of that nature.
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Speaker 4: Is that's what I'm referring to you.
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Speaker 1: Okay, But yeah, renting, renting can be the right area,
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Speaker 1: But a fifty year mortgage.
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Speaker 4: I would say no.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you say what you can well, I would
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Speaker 1: everybody has. I would tell you to talk to your
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Speaker 1: financial is fells to find the right place for you.
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Speaker 4: Get it all right?
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Speaker 3: We had a quick text here for you, says Dave,
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Speaker 3: what are richest views on this? Since we are homeowners
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Speaker 3: are basically renting our house and land because we must
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Speaker 3: pay property taxes, then shouldn't our government quote unquote landlords
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Speaker 3: be responsible for all repairs that may be done, especially
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Speaker 3: since many of us can't afford to do them ourselves anymore.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we subsidized new housing for others where their
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Speaker 3: tax dollars, why not have some backed us.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's not a real estate question. I'm going
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Speaker 4: to pass on that.
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Speaker 1: But you know, I wouldn't disagree that when you're paying
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Speaker 1: property taxes forever on your home.
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Speaker 4: Do you ever actually out now own your home? You know,
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Speaker 4: so there's there is that angle of discussion.
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Speaker 3: On that, all right. Where can people get a hold
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Speaker 3: of you?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I can be reached directly.
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Speaker 1: I'm at three oh four nine three two seven four
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Speaker 1: eight eight three oh four nine three two seven four
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Speaker 1: eight eight where you can get me an email A
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Speaker 1: Rich Climb the number sixty six, and that's Climb with
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Speaker 1: a K number sixty six at.
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Speaker 4: Gmail dot com.
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Speaker 3: And it's k l i n E k l i
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Speaker 3: n e.
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Speaker 4: All right, all right, and go stealers from you, go
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Speaker 4: Steelers and penguins, right, yeah, for sure, go penguins for sure.
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Speaker 3: Well one of those is okay. The penguins are okay, yeah,
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Speaker 3: doing well?
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Speaker 6: Well?
18:22
Speaker 3: How are you doing doing well? Happy Thanksgiving?
18:24
Speaker 9: Thanksgiving to you.
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Speaker 3: I'm asking everybody one question before we get started. Favorite
18:28
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving dish.
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Speaker 9: If I'm at my mom's house, it's the noodles because
18:34
Speaker 9: she makes the very good noodleska. And if if we're
18:37
Speaker 9: cooking at our house, it's the dressing.
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Speaker 3: Okay, but another dressing guy, it's me. It's it's it's
18:43
Speaker 3: just as good of not better than the turkey, good dressing.
18:46
Speaker 3: It is well.
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Speaker 9: And we do we do too, right, we do we
18:49
Speaker 9: do this, We do the inside the bird and out
18:51
Speaker 9: okay out you know the variety pack for Thanksgiving dinner consumers.
18:58
Speaker 3: I know you've got kids, all right, so how much
19:01
Speaker 3: of the thanks Giving to your kids?
19:02
Speaker 2: Can say?
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Speaker 10: So?
19:03
Speaker 9: My daughter who's thirteen, he's eating like an adult since
19:07
Speaker 9: she was like four.
19:08
Speaker 4: Good and so like she and that's good on you.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, so she always has.
19:13
Speaker 4: Well, I'm fifty.
19:14
Speaker 9: I'm fifty to fifty because my son eats like he's ten,
19:18
Speaker 9: and he eats Liz if he is ten months old,
19:22
Speaker 9: and he'll eat a bunch of rolls.
19:25
Speaker 4: We had a bunch of rolls, and.
19:26
Speaker 9: Then we'll probably have to like maybe maybe like a
19:28
Speaker 9: little bit of mac and cheese. No turkey, no turkey,
19:31
Speaker 9: no dressing, no mashed potatoes. Like he I've never never heard.
19:35
Speaker 3: Of a kid that doesn't like mashed potatoes.
19:37
Speaker 9: He's a big eater of like certain things. Okay, it's
19:42
Speaker 9: like you know what I mean. Yeah, there's just like
19:44
Speaker 9: you know, he eats like a tea. I should I
19:45
Speaker 9: say he's ten months. He eats like a teenager. It's
19:47
Speaker 9: like pizza, cheeseburgers, now, you know what I mean. Like,
19:50
Speaker 9: so he's a big eater, but he doesn't.
19:53
Speaker 3: It's because I was starting to say, if all of
19:54
Speaker 3: your giving him is like rolls and stuff like that,
19:57
Speaker 3: this is how CPS gets involved.
19:58
Speaker 4: Great, Okay, well we don't want to make you. He
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Speaker 4: does eat other things.
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Speaker 9: He does not have an overly sophisticated palace. But my daughter,
20:06
Speaker 9: she's like salad and salmon, like she's the whole deal.
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Speaker 3: I don't recall a time ever in my life that
20:13
Speaker 3: I didn't eat everything.
20:15
Speaker 4: I mean, there's like two food.
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Speaker 9: There's like a couple of things that I remember not
20:19
Speaker 9: liking as a kid that I like now that that happens.
20:22
Speaker 9: And then there's a couple of things now Like every
20:24
Speaker 9: once in a while, I get something where I'm like,
20:26
Speaker 9: I really don't like Cranberyce.
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Speaker 4: I'm not a crane a huge fan, but I'm not.
20:31
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm kind of the same way, Like I don't
20:32
Speaker 9: like if somebody like you have to.
20:34
Speaker 4: Do this, I would do it.
20:36
Speaker 9: Yeah, Like if it's like I have the choice to
20:38
Speaker 9: not make it and put it out there.
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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna make it the same. I mean, I'll
20:41
Speaker 3: eat it if it's there, but I'm not a big fan.
20:43
Speaker 3: All right, So what's on your mind, what's good to
20:45
Speaker 3: what's what's keeping that mind active these days?
20:48
Speaker 9: You know, I've been been pretty busy the last few months,
20:52
Speaker 9: you know, recruiting people to run for state legislature around
20:55
Speaker 9: the state, essentially recruiting people to beat the people that
21:00
Speaker 9: we elected last time, which is something you have to
21:03
Speaker 9: do about every like decade. You're like, oh my gosh,
21:06
Speaker 9: I made a mistake. H And there's always red flags
21:10
Speaker 9: with those candidates, right, but you're like, you know somebody,
21:13
Speaker 9: it'll be like, oh, I know her dad, or oh
21:16
Speaker 9: I'm buddies with her. You know, I'm buddies with that guy,
21:19
Speaker 9: and it'll be fine. I'll talk to him. It'll you know,
21:21
Speaker 9: he's my buddy. We'll get him on the right path.
21:23
Speaker 9: And when you're making those sort of justifications and excuses
21:27
Speaker 9: like during the campaign, you pretty much should know that
21:30
Speaker 9: it's not going to go well. And we were doing
21:34
Speaker 9: a lot of that over the last couple of cycles.
21:35
Speaker 9: And you know, you just got to find good people, right,
21:38
Speaker 9: You got to find you know, if if the issues
21:41
Speaker 9: you want to talk about or and see promoted our
21:45
Speaker 9: job creation, infrastructure, you know, improvements to healthcare education. You've
21:51
Speaker 9: got to find people that are that have a professional background,
21:55
Speaker 9: that have a small business, that have a you know, lawyers, doctors,
21:59
Speaker 9: I mean, and you sort of need all of that,
22:04
Speaker 9: you know, you sort of need all that out there,
22:06
Speaker 9: and that all of the different kinds of those those
22:10
Speaker 9: types of people on the team, right and and we
22:15
Speaker 9: and we sort of we had that a decade ago
22:17
Speaker 9: when we first took over. You know, I ran you know,
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Speaker 9: most of the campaigns to take over the State Senate
22:22
Speaker 9: back in twenty fourteen, and you know, and people stick
22:25
Speaker 9: around for four years, six years, eight years, and then
22:28
Speaker 9: they kind of move on and you know, and as
22:30
Speaker 9: we kind of repopulated the super majority in the State Senate,
22:36
Speaker 9: you know, the quality is the quantity increase, the quality decreased.
22:40
Speaker 9: And so I think noubt. You know, the focus this
22:42
Speaker 9: year has been, Hey, let's just really spend some time
22:45
Speaker 9: going out and try to find some people that have
22:47
Speaker 9: been you know, successful in their lives and you know,
22:50
Speaker 9: asked them to come and be part of the team
22:52
Speaker 9: to get things back on track.
22:55
Speaker 3: It's interesting to me that we're having this discussion about
22:58
Speaker 3: the Republican Party, Cause go back twenty years we were
23:02
Speaker 3: having this discussion about the Democratic Party.
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Speaker 9: It's what happens when you get total one party rule though, right,
23:08
Speaker 9: Because then what's happened in West Virginia And you and
23:10
Speaker 9: I have talked about this before.
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Speaker 4: I think we talked about it over.
23:13
Speaker 9: The summer, but you know, there's been three waves of
23:17
Speaker 9: Democrats leaving the Democratic Party in West Virginia and becoming Republicans.
23:22
Speaker 9: The first wave was around two thousand, right, it was like,
23:25
Speaker 9: you know, kind of post Clinton al Gore. They were,
23:28
Speaker 9: you know, the national Democrats were really starting to get
23:31
Speaker 9: pretty extreme on climate change and some other issues like that,
23:35
Speaker 9: and there were a good number of people that turned Republican.
23:37
Speaker 9: Then you know, that's you know, we elected George Bush
23:41
Speaker 9: we in West Virginia that year. You know, Shelim Moore
23:44
Speaker 9: Capito was elected to the Congress. And then it was
23:47
Speaker 9: sort of the next wave in like twenty ten. You know,
23:51
Speaker 9: it was the Tea Party stuff. You know, Obama was
23:54
Speaker 9: had Obamacare and the War on Cole and just you know,
23:57
Speaker 9: this growth explosion in government, the size and scope of government,
24:01
Speaker 9: the federal government, and you had a wave come over
24:03
Speaker 9: then and then Trump came along, right and like you know,
24:08
Speaker 9: fifteen sixteen, and you had some people turning Republican, but
24:12
Speaker 9: it wasn't really a ton. The next wave actually came
24:16
Speaker 9: during the during the Biden administration. And those are the
24:23
Speaker 9: folks that you know, that's a lot of the current
24:26
Speaker 9: Republican Party now, that last wave, a lot of the
24:29
Speaker 9: folks that are vocal in this current legislature, a lot
24:32
Speaker 9: of former Democrats. You know, these are big government, you know,
24:36
Speaker 9: tax and spend sort of social socioeconomically, they're economic liberals, right,
24:43
Speaker 9: they're Democrats, right. They they want a big government, they
24:46
Speaker 9: want the handouts, they want the stuff like that. But
24:49
Speaker 9: they're they the trans stuff, the boys and girls sports,
24:55
Speaker 9: things like that that the National Democrats were pushing sort
24:58
Speaker 9: of forced them out of the party, you know what
24:59
Speaker 9: I mean. And so they've become Republicans. And so that's
25:04
Speaker 9: why you saw over the last couple of years this
25:07
Speaker 9: real focus on the social issues because all of the
25:09
Speaker 9: new members of our party, that's what they cared about.
25:12
Speaker 9: And what we didn't do was sort of make them
25:14
Speaker 9: assimilate to small government, lower taxes. You know, personal responsibility.
25:21
Speaker 9: And I think, you know now that the focus is
25:24
Speaker 9: sort of a way. I think that this upcoming election
25:27
Speaker 9: is going to be on the economy, right, I mean,
25:29
Speaker 9: people are talking about that seems to be the key word, affordability,
25:33
Speaker 9: you know, and what are the things that make things
25:35
Speaker 9: more affordable, right like having a job, getting paid more
25:38
Speaker 9: at your job, you know, having more jobs, you know,
25:40
Speaker 9: and things like that will help those situations, you know,
25:44
Speaker 9: you know, doing things to reduce consumer costs your food bill,
25:48
Speaker 9: you know, your your grocery bill, your electric bill, your
25:50
Speaker 9: gasoline bill, like those are things that help control costs.
25:54
Speaker 9: And most of the ideas that these new Republicans and
25:58
Speaker 9: I'm you know, I know, we don't have the video
26:00
Speaker 9: they're quote using air quotes under Republicans here, you know,
26:04
Speaker 9: they were focused on that stuff. And I think they're
26:06
Speaker 9: you know, and they're trying to run campaigns around the
26:11
Speaker 9: issues that happened in the last couple of cycles, you know,
26:14
Speaker 9: And so I think that this upcoming election is going
26:17
Speaker 9: to be about those issues. And that's fortuitous for those
26:22
Speaker 9: of us that want to see change in Charleston because
26:24
Speaker 9: that's the new group of you know, Republican candidates are
26:29
Speaker 9: people that are going to be focused on those economic issues.
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27:00
Speaker 3: about Jim Justice coming back to round for governor.
27:03
Speaker 9: I've heard that he definitely wants to do it, right,
27:05
Speaker 9: I mean, I think he I don't think it's a
27:08
Speaker 9: big surprise that he doesn't love DC. Right, Like, if
27:11
Speaker 9: you're sort of that executive guy that really liked being governor,
27:15
Speaker 9: that really you know, that has your own business all
27:19
Speaker 9: of a sudden getting thrown over there and you're one
27:22
Speaker 9: of one hundred, you know, he doesn't he didn't buy
27:25
Speaker 9: a house in DC, right, He's still kind of commuting
27:28
Speaker 9: back and forth.
27:28
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's it.
27:30
Speaker 9: That would take a toll on a younger, you know,
27:34
Speaker 9: more fit person, And so I think that's hard on him.
27:40
Speaker 4: But I think he really liked being governor too. I
27:42
Speaker 4: think the I think.
27:43
Speaker 9: That the twist on it is just going to be
27:46
Speaker 9: his age and health. Right, I mean, because he's not
27:49
Speaker 9: overly young now and we're.
27:51
Speaker 3: Talking you know a little over two years from now. Yeah,
27:55
Speaker 3: it'll be a little while now.
27:56
Speaker 9: Look, I say all that thinking that's what people said
27:59
Speaker 9: about him when he got elected the first time as governor. Right,
28:02
Speaker 9: you know, how long is his health gonna stand up?
28:04
Speaker 4: Well? Here he is going to DC.
28:06
Speaker 3: Every day, and you know, and and Greg his tax
28:08
Speaker 3: issues and issues of paying bills, and there was another
28:10
Speaker 3: story that broke nationally over this and he's paying back
28:13
Speaker 3: five million dollars. We ride about a WV mentronews dot com.
28:16
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem to matter to people.
28:18
Speaker 9: Look as long as he looked. West Virginians sent Jim
28:24
Speaker 9: Justice to Washington, d C. To support Donald Trump's presidency.
28:28
Speaker 9: And he's doing that. And so that's what they sent
28:31
Speaker 9: him to do. That's what he's doing now. I say
28:34
Speaker 9: that Trump is done in well, probably done in four years.
28:38
Speaker 4: Don't get that started. I'm just saying it's I mean,
28:40
Speaker 4: it's a thing.
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Speaker 9: It's not you know, it's probably he's gonna run again,
28:45
Speaker 9: probably probably.
28:46
Speaker 4: You know, he's just like stirring the podca.
28:50
Speaker 9: I don't, I don't. I mean, we don't. I don't know.
28:52
Speaker 9: I don't know. I mean, I don't know. So, I mean,
28:57
Speaker 9: I know he's not supposed to be able to.
29:00
Speaker 4: Anyway. So why why are you the way you are? Anyway?
29:09
Speaker 9: I think so when Trump's if and when Trump is gone,
29:13
Speaker 9: I just don't. Justice doesn't like doing it anyway. He's
29:16
Speaker 9: gonna like it even less, right, and so what does
29:21
Speaker 9: I mean he has to run for reelection, right and
29:23
Speaker 9: so between But as you said, there's a couple of years.
29:26
Speaker 9: So look, if that election were today, Jim Justice would
29:29
Speaker 9: win pretty you know, they gonna beat him by forty
29:32
Speaker 9: or anything. But I mean he'd be between the two
29:34
Speaker 9: of them, Yeah, between the two of them. It'd be
29:35
Speaker 9: a pretty sign.
29:36
Speaker 3: And then where do you factor Larry Pack and all this,
29:38
Speaker 3: because well, look our Treasurer Larry Pack's.
29:41
Speaker 9: Close to Jim Justice. I mean, if Jim Justice runs
29:44
Speaker 9: for that, he doesn't.
29:45
Speaker 4: I agree.
29:46
Speaker 9: They're on the same page of this stuff, and so
29:49
Speaker 9: I think it you know, as of right now, it
29:50
Speaker 9: looks like it'll be one or the other, you know,
29:53
Speaker 9: but look, it's it's a couple of years, right And
29:55
Speaker 9: it's not that you know, it's not that Morrissey's it's
30:00
Speaker 9: it's not that he has low favorability.
30:01
Speaker 4: I mean it's lower.
30:02
Speaker 9: Than Justice, it's lower than Chilly Moore capitot or something.
30:05
Speaker 4: But it's not like it's terrible.
30:07
Speaker 9: His unfavorabilities or his unfavorables are a little bit higher
30:10
Speaker 9: than probably what you would want an early governor's to be.
30:13
Speaker 9: But he's got a couple of years to you know, Look,
30:16
Speaker 9: he goes in and gets some legislative wins either this
30:18
Speaker 9: year or next year. You know, he can, he can.
30:22
Speaker 9: I mean, it's not like it's it'll be competitive, you
30:25
Speaker 9: know what I mean. I don't think it's going to
30:26
Speaker 9: be anything like that.
30:27
Speaker 3: And you know, raising funds for Patrick Morrisey has never
30:30
Speaker 3: really been a problem.
30:31
Speaker 9: He's aggressive with it, you know, he's aggressive with it.
30:33
Speaker 9: It's you know, probably the thing that he does best.
30:36
Speaker 9: You know, he's aggressive with it. He's a hard campaigner.
30:39
Speaker 9: You know, so I don't that's going to be competitive
30:42
Speaker 9: either way. Well, I say it's competitive in a in
30:46
Speaker 9: a one on one situation.
30:47
Speaker 11: You know.
30:48
Speaker 9: Morrisey though, has found ways to get in these three
30:51
Speaker 9: and four person races that he can pull off a
30:53
Speaker 9: primary win. You know, so I think it'll be uh,
30:59
Speaker 9: you know, but but look, you know, Morrisey's got time too.
31:02
Speaker 9: I mean, you know, we didn't have a very good
31:03
Speaker 9: legislative session past time. Morrisey had a pretty you know,
31:06
Speaker 9: the legislative session was really bad because of the State Senate.
31:09
Speaker 9: I mean, there's just no leadership there. It's an absolute clown.
31:12
Speaker 4: Show, absolute clown show. Greg.
31:14
Speaker 3: Yes, that's that's that's pretty generous.
31:18
Speaker 9: I was going to say that's pretty extremely well, I
31:20
Speaker 9: think it's I think it's generous of a description of
31:22
Speaker 9: how it is and is it Is it going to.
31:24
Speaker 4: Get any better?
31:25
Speaker 3: Not this site, not this time is a fault line.
31:29
Speaker 9: Uh leadership, you know, it's it's uh, you know, Randy
31:34
Speaker 9: Smith does not have control of the State Senate. Patricia
31:37
Speaker 9: Record does, and that that dysfunction within the State Senate
31:41
Speaker 9: leadership is what's caused you to have you know, uh,
31:44
Speaker 9: you've got a bunch of either radicals or incompetence that
31:46
Speaker 9: are in leadership, and uh, it's it's really it's terrible,
31:50
Speaker 9: and each change badly, uh, you know, and then the
31:53
Speaker 9: House of Delegates, you know, they're left in the situation
31:56
Speaker 9: or just having to kill the bad stuff that comes
31:57
Speaker 9: over from the Senate. We're hoping to see more kind
32:00
Speaker 9: of positive you know, movement from some stuff out of
32:03
Speaker 9: them this time to get you know, last time, it
32:05
Speaker 9: was like, oh my gosh, we can go do all
32:06
Speaker 9: this work to pass something and the Senate won't do
32:08
Speaker 9: it anyway. You still got to go through the motions
32:11
Speaker 9: with that, right, I mean, you've got to put that
32:12
Speaker 9: good stuff over there and let them vote on it
32:14
Speaker 9: one way or another. And so hopefully we'll see more
32:17
Speaker 9: of that this time. You know, Morrissey had a pretty
32:19
Speaker 9: modest agenda last time, which he got a lot.
32:20
Speaker 4: Of it passed.
32:22
Speaker 9: You know, so he had two or three things that
32:23
Speaker 9: were that were real positive. But I think Morrissey's gonna
32:27
Speaker 9: need a bigger agenda this time around.
32:29
Speaker 12: Uh.
32:29
Speaker 9: You know, you're hearing a lot of rumors of a
32:30
Speaker 9: big time you know, tax bill. I don't know the
32:34
Speaker 9: details of that at all. You hear different stuff, so
32:36
Speaker 9: he'd orally don't know what to believe. But I think
32:38
Speaker 9: that's you know, it looks like that's going to be
32:40
Speaker 9: something that's going to be his big proposal, and uh,
32:43
Speaker 9: you know, we'll see what he offers up.
32:46
Speaker 3: Tex says, man, you almost get paid for every gop
32:48
Speaker 3: MAGA talking point. Larry Pack will be justice and Morrissey
32:51
Speaker 3: walking away. He actually has a brain.
32:55
Speaker 9: Yeah, but Larry's not going to run against Justice. You know,
32:57
Speaker 9: I'm looking at you know, those of us. You know,
33:00
Speaker 9: Larry friends a close personal friend or Larry Pack's a
33:03
Speaker 9: close personal friend of mine. I really like Larry Pack.
33:06
Speaker 4: I'm for him.
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Speaker 9: Go ahead, Look, I think we've you know, next time
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33:39
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33:42
Speaker 9: You know, there's going to be a lot of competitive
33:45
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33:48
Speaker 9: but definitely a bunch of state senate races. And give
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33:52
Speaker 9: and look, I think the you know, probably the one.
33:55
Speaker 9: You've got a three way race with that uh, doctor
33:59
Speaker 9: Steve Eschenou. Or you've got Kevin Bartlett, who was the
34:01
Speaker 9: appointed state senator by Morrissey, who's a pastor in the
34:05
Speaker 9: Sistemville area. Then you've got Lance Wheeler, the county commissioner here.
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Speaker 9: That'll be a real competitive one. But you know, I
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Speaker 9: think that's one that if you look at the background
34:13
Speaker 9: for these guys, right, I mean you've got Eschenauer, who's
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34:24
Speaker 9: hunting preserve he has out there. You know, Bartlett's obviously
34:28
Speaker 9: a pastor. He'll be focused on the social issue stuff.
34:30
Speaker 9: And then Wheeler was a county commissioner. You know, I
34:33
Speaker 9: don't I don't really know what his full time job was.
34:36
Speaker 9: I guess his part time jobs being Silango's assistant for
34:39
Speaker 9: the last six years, so that was something that he did.
34:43
Speaker 9: So I guess we'll see, you know, and I think
34:45
Speaker 9: that's one that you know, the social issue folks are
34:47
Speaker 9: going to be for Bartlett, the former Democrat sort of
34:50
Speaker 9: big government liberals will be for Wheeler. You know, he
34:54
Speaker 9: took almost about half of the money that he praised
34:56
Speaker 9: with some Democrat trial lawyers. And then Eschenouer will be
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Speaker 9: the one that gets the votes from people that are
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Speaker 3: All right, well, let's have you on again soon because
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Speaker 15: Your favorite part of the me Deviled eggs? I think
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Speaker 3: I don't remember it all right, So Small Business Saturday.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's coming up, I mean this time of year.
40:35
Speaker 15: I was just while you were reading those that I
40:36
Speaker 15: was just kind of like thinking about this whole year.
40:38
Speaker 4: Of course you were.
40:39
Speaker 15: You were our announcer for Their Night Awards a couple
40:41
Speaker 15: of weeks ago, and I was thinking about that and
40:43
Speaker 15: sort of like looking back on the year and just realizing, like,
40:46
Speaker 15: this is one of my favorite times a year, right,
40:47
Speaker 15: because like finally things that they sort of slow down
40:50
Speaker 15: right in some way.
40:51
Speaker 4: For us at least at the office.
40:53
Speaker 15: But but we also get this really awesome opportunity to
40:57
Speaker 15: celebrate local business, like small business right with everything going
41:00
Speaker 15: on downtown this coming weekend, between with the light show,
41:04
Speaker 15: with l Like the Night, Holly Jolly Browley, everything else happening,
41:09
Speaker 15: it's such a huge opportunity for folks. Thousands upon thousands
41:13
Speaker 15: of people come into the urban core of Charleston to
41:17
Speaker 15: enjoy these events. But there are a ton of really
41:20
Speaker 15: great small businesses that are offering you know, products and
41:23
Speaker 15: services the entire weekend, the entire.
41:25
Speaker 4: Week all the time.
41:27
Speaker 15: But for these folks that may not ever really get
41:29
Speaker 15: to come to Charleston, and don't they don't come often.
41:31
Speaker 15: This is a perfect time to shine that spotlight on them.
41:34
Speaker 15: This is just a great time of year. I genuinely
41:36
Speaker 15: enjoy it. I know that's probably a nerdy of me.
41:38
Speaker 3: But hey, look, look and and and I hear all
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Speaker 3: the time, and I know you hear this, and again
41:42
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Speaker 4: I hear this all the time.
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Speaker 2: Rick.
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Speaker 4: People will say, I would like to shop.
41:47
Speaker 3: In Charleston, but there's nothing here, and I want to say, uh,
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Speaker 3: w tf, I mean, are you serious?
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Speaker 4: Right now?
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Speaker 15: I think I think that obviously I've thought a lot
41:57
Speaker 15: about this, and I was just in a conversation the
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Speaker 15: other day. I mean, the situation with the Town Center
42:01
Speaker 15: mall is obviously unfortunate.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 15: I grew up going to that mall, worked in that mall.
42:06
Speaker 15: Uh and I worked at Camelot Music. Oh yeah, that
42:09
Speaker 15: was my first job.
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Speaker 4: I loved it. Yeah, but you know, I get it.
42:15
Speaker 15: And in the perception because of that, because there's you know,
42:18
Speaker 15: several retail outlets in that in that mall, the perception
42:21
Speaker 15: can be that there isn't a lot of quote a
42:23
Speaker 15: lot of quote unquote shopping to do in downtown, but
42:26
Speaker 15: there really is. There's a lot, a lot of really
42:29
Speaker 15: great places, locally owned places. And that's the other thing
42:32
Speaker 15: that you got to remember. And that's why we started
42:33
Speaker 15: our passport card debit card program, is because we want
42:36
Speaker 15: to not only shine a spotlight on all of these
42:38
Speaker 15: really wonderful local businesses throughout our districts, but also remind
42:43
Speaker 15: folks that anytime they're swiping that card in time, they're
42:45
Speaker 15: spending money in these in the In this these local businesses,
42:49
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42:53
Speaker 15: reinvesting back into in some small way every single time
42:56
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42:58
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43:00
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43:02
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43:04
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Speaker 4: Here we're talking.
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Speaker 15: Thank you, you know, it's great, and that really kind
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47:07
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47:13
Speaker 15: you know what it is.
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Speaker 4: And you know, I think.
47:17
Speaker 15: That whole experience of the air Knight a ward sort
47:19
Speaker 15: of encapsulates what we want to see happening every single
47:22
Speaker 15: day on the streets in Charleston, right and what we
47:24
Speaker 15: want to see happened this this coming Saturday, this weekend
47:27
Speaker 15: downtown and all throughout the urban corp of Charleston is people.
47:31
Speaker 15: You know, those cash registers ringing, those folks going into
47:34
Speaker 15: the Kinship Goods and the one to eighteen, and you
47:39
Speaker 15: know the even like the bars, like a goat, you know,
47:41
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47:44
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47:47
Speaker 15: Lee Street, wherever, and just you know, you know, get
47:49
Speaker 15: a beer, get some food, you know, before on your
47:53
Speaker 15: way home, you know, grab dinner or whatever the case
47:55
Speaker 15: may be. Every time you do that, you are reinvesting
47:57
Speaker 15: in the local economy. And there's there's no easier way
48:01
Speaker 15: to do that. And whenever you're making your decision where
48:04
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48:05
Speaker 15: especially this weekend, do it because there's a lot of
48:08
Speaker 15: folks do on a lot of really great specials this weekend.
48:10
Speaker 3: And you know, people, and we can talk town Center
48:12
Speaker 3: all we want to, and I've talked to I've been
48:13
Speaker 3: doing this show for five and a half years now,
48:16
Speaker 3: and at least once or twice a week something comes
48:18
Speaker 3: up about the town Center, and I get it.
48:19
Speaker 4: Like you said, it was your first job.
48:21
Speaker 3: I remember, you know, as a teenager, you know, in
48:23
Speaker 3: the height of the days, you know, driving from from Logan,
48:26
Speaker 3: you know, to the town Center. Yeah, but it's not
48:29
Speaker 3: going to come back like it was before.
48:31
Speaker 4: Never.
48:32
Speaker 3: And but but I I guess my and I understand
48:34
Speaker 3: it is sad, okay, but but I guess my. My
48:36
Speaker 3: criticism of people that would be like, well, we don't
48:39
Speaker 3: have shopping in Charleston. As I said, the town Center
48:42
Speaker 3: wasn't shopping. I mean it was shopping in Charleston and
48:44
Speaker 3: employed a lot of people. But that money, nine times
48:48
Speaker 3: out of ten went somewhere else where, says it stays here.
48:52
Speaker 15: I should of course, yeah, yeah, obviously obviously, but yeah, no, no, yeah,
48:56
Speaker 15: well and again, and so that's a really good example.
48:58
Speaker 4: I'm glad you said that.
48:59
Speaker 15: I mean, there's you know, of course, we're always going
49:02
Speaker 15: to promote the you know, shopping local and eating local,
49:04
Speaker 15: actually locally owned places, right, but you know, there is
49:10
Speaker 15: something to be said about the fact that the that
49:12
Speaker 15: the even the chains that were in the Town Center Mall,
49:15
Speaker 15: I mean those leaving.
49:15
Speaker 4: I think the impact that that.
49:18
Speaker 15: Had is, you know, there are other sources of revenue
49:21
Speaker 15: that that occur from any business that opens up in Charleston, right,
49:24
Speaker 15: regardless if it's a chain or not. But our job
49:26
Speaker 15: as an organization is to make sure that we are
49:28
Speaker 15: shining the spotlight on the shopkeepers. I like, that's what
49:31
Speaker 15: we always call them, the shopkeepers, right, that folks who
49:35
Speaker 15: you know, they put their bootstraps on. They they're using
49:37
Speaker 15: nothing but grit and hard work, elbow grease and making
49:42
Speaker 15: something out of nothing. And we've seen so many some
49:45
Speaker 15: of the folks that that you saw win awards at
49:47
Speaker 15: the Erwinight Awards a couple of weeks.
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Speaker 4: Ago, that those are those folks, that those are those folks.
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Speaker 15: And the other interesting part the conversations I was having
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Speaker 15: with folks after the awards were not only was it
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Speaker 15: great excuse me to hear the stories like when were
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Speaker 15: you and what you were making the announcements about the
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Speaker 15: winners as they would go to stage. Not only was
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Speaker 15: it great to hear more about them, but it opened
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Speaker 15: my eyes to so many different places that I hadn't
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Speaker 15: even really been to yet. Like, oh, yeah, Bogies at
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Speaker 15: the Capitol Market. I got to go check that out. Right,
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Speaker 15: Like oh, Miss Ruby's Corner Market in the heart of
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Speaker 15: the West Side, you know, a grocery store right there
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Speaker 15: in the heart of the West Side. I got to
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Speaker 15: go check that out. It's so cool to learn about
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Speaker 15: this place. There's so many stories, yeah, that we can
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Speaker 15: tell about the hard work of people here in Charleston,
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Speaker 15: and and they're endless.
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Speaker 4: The stories are endless.
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Speaker 15: So again, going back to this weekend, small Business Saturday,
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Speaker 15: go out and support those those really interesting stories, right,
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Speaker 15: those stories of starting from nothing and becoming something by
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Speaker 15: swiping your card at the at the point of sale
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Speaker 15: when you go buy your next you know whatever, hammer
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Speaker 15: or drill.
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Speaker 4: And how do people get those cards? Remind people, well,
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Speaker 4: I'm when I say card, I mean any car.
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Speaker 15: Now, we're interested in our Passport Card program, which is
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Speaker 15: a fully shoped local initiative. If you become a member
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Speaker 15: at Element, Federal or Credit Union, you can opt to
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Speaker 15: get the Passport debit cards as your official debit card.
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Speaker 15: And when you have that card, anytime you shop in
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Speaker 15: our district. So right now, that's East and Westside. We've
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Speaker 15: also included downtown as a partnership with the DCA and
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Speaker 15: here soon we'll be adding all the Kanas City businesses
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Speaker 15: to that list because we've expanded to Kano City. Anytime
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Speaker 15: you swipe your card there, that's all you have to do,
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Speaker 15: is you shop there, you get two percent cash back
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Speaker 15: very purchase. So that doesn't sound like a lot, but
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Speaker 15: it adds up pretty quick. Absolutely, And you know that's
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Speaker 15: one of our one of our ways that we're trying
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Speaker 15: to incentivize folks to to keep their dollars here locally,
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Speaker 15: in shop local. So highly recommend you check it out.
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Speaker 15: You get our website Charleston nurveranworks dot org, click on
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Speaker 15: the passport card passport debit card link.
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Speaker 4: It'll take an elements page and you can learn more
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Speaker 4: about it.
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Speaker 3: And again, you know, small business Saturday. There's so much
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Speaker 3: excitement going on in downtown Charleston over the next couple
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Speaker 3: of days because everybody, every once, everybody gets to their
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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving turkey and them, you know, Holly Jolly Brawley is
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Speaker 3: gonna get going. We got light the night over to Ballpark.
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Speaker 3: The Mayor, i think is going to write the light
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Speaker 3: Thechristmas Tree and the whole deal and and and then
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Speaker 3: we have the parade which is coming up next week.
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Speaker 4: Thanks, so yeah, okay, next to what, I can't remember
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Speaker 4: the day of the week. I'm sorry.
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Speaker 3: I think I think it's Thursday, Thursday, and so you
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Speaker 3: got that going on, and it's it's Christmas time in
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Speaker 3: the city it is. I will spare you, Rick and
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Speaker 3: I going into song on that. All right you okay?
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Speaker 4: Rick Cavanor, Charleston Urban Works.
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Speaker 3: Appreciate you being here, and I promise, I promise the
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Speaker 3: next time my wife knows you, whether she's making for
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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving or not, I will get you some devil day
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Speaker 3: this all right, Rick Cavtor, Charleston Urban Works. I'll see
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Speaker 3: you later today. I'll metroduce Midday powered by Selango Law
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Speaker 3: me coming.
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Speaker 4: Up on this show tomorrow.
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Speaker 3: Oh Tony the Taylor is going to be stopping by
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Speaker 3: the top of a little small talk, a little small business.
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Speaker 3: Sturday also can introduce you to some students at West
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Speaker 3: Virginia State University that are promoting music. All right, I
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Speaker 3: will see you later today. Till then, have fun and
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