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The Late Debate | 5 November · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lately. Welcome to the Late de Bay.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on the Late Debate. I'm James
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  Speaker 2: Macpherson with Caleb Bond and freyer Leitch. We've got a
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  Speaker 2: lot to get through tonight, including racing legend, gay waterhouse slams,
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  Speaker 2: anti Melbourne Cup protesters as un Australian the Government joined
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  Speaker 2: with the Greens to block information about Garzan refugees. That
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  Speaker 2: Immigration Minister Tony Burke's so enthusiastically welcome to Australia.
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  Speaker 3: Not that long ago.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll tell you about a bizarre navally dispute that's
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  Speaker 2: ended up with two elderly women cross examining each other
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  Speaker 2: in court.
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  Speaker 3: All of that shortly, but first.
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  Speaker 2: As you be aware, Prince Andrew has been stripped of
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  Speaker 2: his royal titles and the consequences well they're being felt
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  Speaker 2: not only in the Palace but also in Melbourne's northern suburbs.
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  Speaker 4: Now I understand the future of Prince Andrew Avenue in
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  Speaker 4: the Northern suburb of Melbourne is so shaky.
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  Speaker 3: That it might be changed.
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  Speaker 4: It's a long way from Buckingham Pallas, where last week
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  Speaker 4: King Charles announced he had started the process to stoop
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  Speaker 4: Andrew of the prince title.
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  Speaker 1: The street should definitely be taken off. No, just Andrew
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  Speaker 1: Avenue's form.
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  Speaker 5: Having our street named after someone that is related to
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  Speaker 5: such things, he's a bit weird. It's really upsetting to
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  Speaker 5: have someone who's a predator basically be the name of
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  Speaker 5: your street.
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  Speaker 3: Now. I understand the residents concern.
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  Speaker 2: I imagine most of them, when asked for their address,
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  Speaker 2: can barely bring themselves to give it.
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  Speaker 3: Such would be the shame, but.
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  Speaker 2: They should be careful what they wish for. What's worse
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  Speaker 2: the embarrassment of living in Prince Andrew Avenue or the
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  Speaker 2: inconvenience if it's renamed of having to write your address
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  Speaker 2: as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor Avenue.
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  Speaker 3: These people seriously need to take a nap.
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  Speaker 2: No one is connecting their street with a sex predator.
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  Speaker 2: The postman isn't refusing to deliver the mail, and Google
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  Speaker 2: Maps hasn't canceled them. Surely residents of Prince Andrew Avenue
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  Speaker 2: in Lala, Victoria have bigger things to worry about.
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  Speaker 5: Freyer, Oh, totally look from Prince Andrew.
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  Speaker 6: Was it poor judgment? Yes?
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  Speaker 5: Did he lie about his relationship with Epstein?
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  Speaker 6: Yes? Did he cover it up for way too long.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Is he a complete dropkick?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 5: But also the met Police did investigate these allegations twice,
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  Speaker 5: they never pressed charges. The FBI similarly investigated them after
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  Speaker 5: Julane Maxwell was convicted. Again, no criminal prosecution there. So
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  Speaker 5: we do have to remember, Yes, he's stupid. Who knows
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  Speaker 5: what he got up to with Epstein? I don't really
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  Speaker 5: want to know, to be perfectly honest, But we can't
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  Speaker 5: overreact and this is just going way too far.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look, the guy is as dodgy as they can.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Why did they settle with Virginia Gifrey. You
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  Speaker 1: don't settle cases that you think you're going to win
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  Speaker 1: because you'll get your legal costs back on the way through.
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  Speaker 1: You settled because you either can't you bothered going through
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  Speaker 1: the process because even though you may well come out
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  Speaker 1: the other side to win it, there's other stuff that
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  Speaker 1: will come out as collateral damage, and you don't want
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  Speaker 1: that to come out or you think you're going to lose.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I think we can read into why
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  Speaker 1: that case was settled, but I can understand why the
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  Speaker 1: good people of LAWLA are worried about living on Prince Andrew. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you why I did think it would devalue
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  Speaker 1: properties on that string. No, no, I do.
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  Speaker 3: No one is thinking like that.
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  Speaker 1: I think people would. I think people would look at it,
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  Speaker 1: and there are people who would look at that and
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  Speaker 1: go Prince Andrew avenue. I mean, for one thing, he's
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  Speaker 1: not even Prince andrewquestion. I genuinely think it would devalue properties.
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  Speaker 2: Do you really think that when people are purchasing a
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  Speaker 2: house they take into consideration.
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  Speaker 3: Or what's the name of this? I like the house,
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  Speaker 3: but I couldn't live in a street name that.
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  Speaker 1: They absolutely take into account the name of a suburb, right,
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  Speaker 1: because it has a connotation attached to it. Now, there
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  Speaker 1: are parts of this is legit you're looking at.
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  Speaker 2: It, but that's because of it's like crime, or because
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  Speaker 2: of you know, lack of access facilities, not because it's
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  Speaker 2: associated with a bloke who lives a million miles away.
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  Speaker 1: No. But the point is that even if the external
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  Speaker 1: elements are not true. For instance, there are suburbs where
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  Speaker 1: one end of the suburb has a big problem and
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  Speaker 1: the other end doesn't, and people regularly petition and are
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  Speaker 1: often successful in doing so, to have their section of
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  Speaker 1: the suburb renamed because the rest of it gives it
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  Speaker 1: a bad name. No problem with the properties they live
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  Speaker 1: in now, I reckon there are people out there who
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  Speaker 1: would look at Prince Andrew Avenue and I do hope
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  Speaker 1: want to live there.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think anyone else is as invested in this
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  Speaker 5: story as we are. I don't think the average pund
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  Speaker 5: is going out looking at a property and getting outraged
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  Speaker 5: by the Prince Andrew name. But it's not only Prince Andrew.
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  Speaker 5: It's in the firing line Prince Harry.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe next.
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  Speaker 5: The British Parliament is looking at giving the King more
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  Speaker 5: powers to be able to strip his family members of
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  Speaker 5: their royal titles, and one royal insider has cautioned that
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  Speaker 5: he thinks Prince Harry could be the next on the
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  Speaker 5: chopping line.
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  Speaker 2: Not people in Harry Street are going to be outrage They.
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  Speaker 5: Will be the disgraced prince and they think that when
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  Speaker 5: William takes the throne and becomes the king, he'll be
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  Speaker 5: acting Prince Harry's royal titles. I mean to be fair
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  Speaker 5: after the allegations he made about William and Kate in
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  Speaker 5: the book The Spare, accusing William of physical violence, accusing
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  Speaker 5: Princess Catherine of racist remarks towards Megan. I don't blame
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  Speaker 5: Prince William for feeling incredibly frustrated.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like this. Have you got siblings, yes, okay?
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever felt vindictive towards your siblings because they
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  Speaker 2: said something or did something that annoyed you?
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  Speaker 6: Never?
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  Speaker 3: In my life you haven't.
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  Speaker 2: But the rest of us have right so to allow
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  Speaker 2: the king or the future king the power to strip
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  Speaker 2: his brother of his royal title because of what essentially
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  Speaker 2: is let's face it, there's been no criminal behavior.
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  Speaker 3: It's a family feud.
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  Speaker 2: It's a terrible power to give carry a horrible precedent.
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  Speaker 5: Harry Meghan use the royal family for financial game while
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  Speaker 5: simultaneously disparaging it, sullying its good name, destroying its reputation
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  Speaker 5: in public. They should have their royal titles fully stretch.
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  Speaker 2: King Charles uses his royal title to push progressive causes
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  Speaker 2: like climate change.
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  Speaker 5: That and if I wasn't such a conservative, i'd be
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  Speaker 5: mad at that as well.
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  Speaker 2: But I'll give him a part because once you start
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  Speaker 2: playing that game, whoever's got power starts stripping everybody else
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  Speaker 2: of their titles based on their subjective opinion of their
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  Speaker 2: behavior at the.
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  Speaker 1: Risk of having a spy up my bottom for sitting
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  Speaker 1: on the fence. I can see both sides of it,
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  Speaker 1: because I am uncomfortable with the idea that you can
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  Speaker 1: take away what is an hereditary title, right because it
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  Speaker 1: is meant to be that, that is regardless of anything
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  Speaker 1: else in the world who are born into that, and
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  Speaker 1: that is yours for life. It cannot be taken away
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  Speaker 1: from you. It is inalienable, because otherwise you could potentially
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  Speaker 1: have a bad actor who says, well, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: knock that filler out of the line because I don't
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  Speaker 1: like the way he does things, and that's not the
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  Speaker 1: way the Royal family is meant to operate. But when
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  Speaker 1: the title is bestowed upon you when you are born,
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  Speaker 1: you're sort of locked into a job for life, and
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  Speaker 1: you have that title on the assumption whether you like
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  Speaker 1: it or not. And basically everyone else before him has
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  Speaker 1: managed to fulfill this role whether you like it or not.
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  Speaker 1: Your job is to be in public life as a
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  Speaker 1: member of the royal family, to represent the royal family
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  Speaker 1: and to represent the people of the Commonwealth. Everyone else
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  Speaker 1: has managed to do that. And Harry on the advice
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  Speaker 1: of his wife, presumably decided to abandon his post. An
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  Speaker 1: argument that if you have abandoned the job that you
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  Speaker 1: took up as prince, why should you be entitled to
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  Speaker 1: continue using that title. You're not actually fulfilling the role
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  Speaker 1: of prince. You're not doing anything for the royal family.
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  Speaker 1: You're not doing anything for the people of the United
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  Speaker 1: Kingdom or the Commonwealth. You're living in America feathering your
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  Speaker 1: own nest. So why do you get to be a prince?
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  Speaker 2: Is he called a prince before he starts doing royal jobs?
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  Speaker 1: Well, he is born into the royal correct, So.
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  Speaker 2: If you are a prince before you do any of
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  Speaker 2: your royal duties, why do you stop being a prince
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  Speaker 2: if you cease to do royal duties, you're not a
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  Speaker 2: prince because you start to do.
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  Speaker 3: You're a prince, as you said, because you're born that way.
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  Speaker 3: So whether you're doing or not doing shouldn't count.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think Harry's behavior is acceptable, but he's still
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  Speaker 2: a prince for better or worse.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I take your point, And that's my issue with
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  Speaker 1: the idea that you could take it away willy nilly,
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  Speaker 1: because you are born into that role. But it is
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  Speaker 1: a role. I mean, yes, you are a prince, that
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  Speaker 1: is bestowed upon you you were born, But there are
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  Speaker 1: other things that come with it that you are expected
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  Speaker 1: to do, and well Harry just doesn't seem to want
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  Speaker 1: to do them. Now, you'll recall the story yesterday about
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  Speaker 1: the protesters down at the ICC in Sydney, the convention
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  Speaker 1: Center because they're having a weapons expo at the moment,
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  Speaker 1: and there were massive fights with police. There was police attacked,
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  Speaker 1: a number who were injured. There was paint being thrown
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  Speaker 1: at police. There are a couple of people who went
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  Speaker 1: to court today and were released on bail. So what
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  Speaker 1: do you think happened today Wednesday, day two of the protests. Well,
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  Speaker 1: mister music man, take.
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  Speaker 7: It away.
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  Speaker 1: And here he is. Yes, there was one loan protest
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  Speaker 1: today out the front of the ICC, protesting demonstrating against
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  Speaker 1: these weapons. But I mean pulling him there right, Go
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  Speaker 1: and get a job, buddy. I mean, no one else
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  Speaker 1: turned up. You were the only one. You know, as
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  Speaker 1: those on some level you've got to say, Look, it's
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  Speaker 1: commitment to the cause. You can almost kind of respect
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  Speaker 1: that because even when everyone else won't show up, he'll
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  Speaker 1: still do it. But like reassess your life choice.
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  Speaker 3: Could you imagine this guy?
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  Speaker 2: Right? He wakes up this morning, he gets his kefia,
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  Speaker 2: puts it on, make sure his face is covered. He
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  Speaker 2: gets his sign and he put a lot of effort
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  Speaker 2: into that sign. Probably gets on the metro because he
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  Speaker 2: can't afford a car, makes his way down to the ICC.
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  Speaker 2: He's standing there. He's waiting for his friends to arrive.
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  Speaker 2: No one does.
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  Speaker 3: He thinks is it a daylight savings thing?
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  Speaker 2: He's checking his phone and it gets to about lunchtime,
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  Speaker 2: and suddenly and belatedly, he realizes no one else is coming.
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  Speaker 6: I feel kind of bad.
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  Speaker 2: He's the first pro Palestinian protester, honestly, I kind of feel.
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  Speaker 6: And look at Caleb.
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  Speaker 5: You say, go get a job, but this is his job.
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  Speaker 5: So really he's the most committed worker of them. All
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  Speaker 5: the rest it's the same rentocrat of socialists that have
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  Speaker 5: been organizing every other protester. At least this guy had
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  Speaker 5: the decency to show up for work today.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's true, but I mean a job is meant
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  Speaker 1: to provide some sort of nit benefit to society in
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  Speaker 1: most cases, and I don't think you could say it
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  Speaker 1: about this one.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, obviously, the Melbourne Cup was run yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, before we talk about Gay Waterhouse getting stuck
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  Speaker 2: into people who are protesting against the Melbourne Cup. Caleb,
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  Speaker 2: you had a viewer very happy with your late Debate
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  Speaker 2: tips the other night.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 1: I think Freda was her name. I'd have to check
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  Speaker 1: my emails, but I got an email this morning from
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  Speaker 1: a viewer of the program saying that she watched on
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  Speaker 1: Monday night when I tipped half yours in the Melbourne Cup,
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  Speaker 1: and the strength of that, she went back to twenty
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  Speaker 1: bucks each way and walked away for the first time
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  Speaker 1: in her life having back the winner of the Melbourne Cup.
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  Speaker 1: These are the great dreams that we achieve here on
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  Speaker 1: the Late Debate, And she said, you'll be hanging out
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  Speaker 1: for my tip next year. I can't promise I'll do
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  Speaker 1: it again, but I'm glad to be of service to
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  Speaker 1: the viewers.
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  Speaker 3: All right. So back to the race itself.
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  Speaker 2: Every year now there's a say Nuck to the Cup
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  Speaker 2: counter event.
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  Speaker 3: That's held for those who believe that horse racing.
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  Speaker 2: Is cruelty to animals and training at Gay Waterhouses come
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  Speaker 2: out today and really got stuck into those who protest
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  Speaker 2: against the Cup, calling them un Australian. She actually said,
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  Speaker 2: anyone who wants to knock the Melbourne Cup, they're very UnAustralian.
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  Speaker 2: They just don't understand life. They are so precious, she said,
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  Speaker 2: and then went on saying I wouldn't even waste my
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  Speaker 2: time having these people down to my stable to show
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  Speaker 2: them how well we treat our horses, because you won't
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  Speaker 2: convert them. And I reckon she's right. I had to
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  Speaker 2: look at the saying nup to the Cup website and
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  Speaker 2: I expected the whole thing to be about animal cruelty
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  Speaker 2: and statistics about what happens to horses when they are
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  Speaker 2: involved in the racing industry, But most of it was about.
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  Speaker 3: The harms of gambling.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't see them protesting football or other sports.
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  Speaker 2: It was about the fact that on the Melbourne Cup
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  Speaker 2: day people bring alcohol to the event and as a
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  Speaker 2: result there can be some anti social behavior Christmas and
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  Speaker 2: they talk about the fact that the Melbourne Cup quote
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  Speaker 2: unquote brings out the worst in US because people leave
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  Speaker 2: rubbish on the ground.
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  Speaker 3: Talk about a bunch of wowsers.
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  Speaker 2: But then I found this which I thought interesting. Caleb
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  Speaker 2: Essential Research did a poll and asked people. Do you
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  Speaker 2: regularly bet on horse racing, in particular on the Melbourne Cup,
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  Speaker 2: And you know which political party or members of which
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  Speaker 2: political party were most inclined to put a bet on
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  Speaker 2: the cup?
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  Speaker 1: Tell me, James the Green.
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  Speaker 2: Of Green's voters now nineteen percent of Labor voters, but
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  Speaker 2: the most likely to put a punt on the cup
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  Speaker 2: Green's voters.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that brilliant? I didn't know that. I love that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to use that all the time now. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you get these wackos. They rock up per every year
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  Speaker 1: when I go to Warnabull for the Jumps Carnival down there,
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  Speaker 1: and they rock up on Grand annual day and there's
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  Speaker 1: about three or four of them out the front and
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  Speaker 1: there's fifteen thousand people at the track. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: pretty clear which side most people are on. And Gayer's right,
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  Speaker 1: we shouldn't be giving these people time of day. And
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  Speaker 1: I feel like in the last couple of years that
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  Speaker 1: started to happen. But up to the Cup was big
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  Speaker 1: five years ago and it was starting to have an effect.
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  Speaker 1: But I think people have woken up to it.
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  Speaker 2: Peter Fitzsimon's got involved it started promoting it.
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  Speaker 1: It's helpful. I mean I was at Derby Day on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: They've got eighty six thousand people in for Derby Day,
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  Speaker 1: which was the biggest crowd for Derby Day since twenty eighteen. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the crowd was a little down at the Cup yesterday
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  Speaker 1: on what it was last year, but they also had
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  Speaker 1: a terrible weather forecast so that they were down by
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  Speaker 1: about five thousand or something on the year prior, but
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  Speaker 1: the weather was meant to be awful and last year,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, was the best crowd since twenty sixteen.
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  Speaker 1: And on TV where this year they got a bit
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  Speaker 1: over two million, which was up eight point eight percent
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  Speaker 1: on the TV viewership of last year on Channel nine
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  Speaker 1: a few years ago, which year was it, It was
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. On Channel ten they got one point
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  Speaker 1: three to five million. So in a few years we've
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  Speaker 1: gone from on the Telly one point three five million
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  Speaker 1: people watching the Melbourne Cup to a tick over two
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  Speaker 1: million watching the Melbourne Cup. So there's actually more interest
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  Speaker 1: in the Melbourne Cup and racing I think across the board.
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  Speaker 1: Look at Sydney. The Everest last two years has been
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  Speaker 1: sold out. Racing is having a resurgence in attendance, at
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  Speaker 1: the track, people watching it, people having a bet, and
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  Speaker 1: I love to see it.
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  Speaker 5: And it's the same group of self righteous, moralistic bullies
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  Speaker 5: that want to destroy fun. I mean, they're just anti fun,
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  Speaker 5: and they're anti racing, they're anti greyhound racing, they're anti vibrancy,
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  Speaker 5: they're just anti life in general.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm glad that the media has stopped.
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  Speaker 5: Caring about what they say, because this year there was
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  Speaker 5: barely any coverage of Nup to the Cup. And you're right, Caleb,
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  Speaker 5: racing has become cool again, even among young people. A
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  Speaker 5: lot of my friends, they're all going out to the
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  Speaker 5: races just to get dressed up and go out and socialize.
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  Speaker 5: It's probably one of the few remaining places where you
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  Speaker 5: can get dressed up, look nice, socialized with friends, have
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  Speaker 5: some good old quality fun with people.
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  Speaker 2: The other interesting thing from the Essential research is that
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  Speaker 2: the age group most likely to have a punt are
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  Speaker 2: eighteen to thirty four year olds. Twenty four in that
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  Speaker 2: age group said yep, I'd put a bit on the Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the races.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's not just racing that the lefties ruining. They
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  Speaker 5: are also about to ruin New York. Say goodbye to
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  Speaker 5: that once great city because it is going to go
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  Speaker 5: downhill real fast. Radical democratic socialist Zoran mom Dannie has
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  Speaker 5: been emphatically elected as.
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  Speaker 6: The next mayor of New York.
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  Speaker 5: And as this has happened, videos of his staffers of
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  Speaker 5: things that have been said on the campaign trail are resurfacing,
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  Speaker 5: and one of them was his staff is saying they're
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: going to provide sex changes to everyone.
• 17:36
  Speaker 8: Zorn is literally attempting to do what the conservatives say,
• 17:40
  Speaker 8: you know we want to do, which is provide gender affirmings,
• 17:43
  Speaker 8: careting and when we wants it for free, and we're
• 17:45
  Speaker 8: going to like shift people who are going to fly
• 17:46
  Speaker 8: people in and pay for their hotel rooms. We're going
• 17:48
  Speaker 8: to do all of the late Fox News stuff like
• 17:50
  Speaker 8: we're getting ideas for Cox News.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I want.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: I wish he was joking, but I think they're actually
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: speaking the truth here, and he was Zoran this evening,
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: accepting victory and very positive at his post election party.
• 18:10
  Speaker 9: If anyone can show a nation betrayed by Donald Trump
• 18:13
  Speaker 9: how to defeat him, it is the city that gave
• 18:16
  Speaker 9: rise to him. This is not only how we stop Trump,
• 18:24
  Speaker 9: it's how we stop the next one.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: So Donald Trump, since I know you're watching, I have
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: four words for you. Turn the volume up.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Ugh.
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: He is so infuriating. But progressives here in Australia, the Greens.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: To be precise, are looking at Zoraan Mam Danny as
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: the blueprint for the perfect.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Lefty no behalf of the Greens.
• 19:00
  Speaker 10: I would like to congratulate Zoron man Dani on his
• 19:03
  Speaker 10: election as Mayor of New York City. His campaign has
• 19:06
  Speaker 10: been an inspiration to New Yorkers and progressive people around
• 19:10
  Speaker 10: the world. Whether it's free buses, a rent freeze, universal child,
• 19:14
  Speaker 10: free childcare, and city owned grocery stores, it's a vision
• 19:18
  Speaker 10: shared by the Australian Greens, and it's a blueprint for
• 19:21
  Speaker 10: every city where working families are being priced out of
• 19:24
  Speaker 10: their own communities. When we tax wealth and invest in people,
• 19:28
  Speaker 10: everyone benefits except the ultra wealthy. But don't worry, they'll
• 19:31
  Speaker 10: also be fine.
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: Yes, we get it.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: You love socialism, but it's never worked and that's the reality.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: And I'm thankful that the Greens here in Australia are
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: still a very minor party. But James, I mean this
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: spells trouble. This is America's financial capital. It's probably the
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: most important city in the world, and now it's going
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: to be run by a socialist.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I love the New York Post headline said something about
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: the red app trouble for the Red Apple rather.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Than the Big Apple. I'm not worried about New York.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I'm worried about Australia, with.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: David Schubridge saying they're watching Mam Damie and getting ideas
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: for city owned grocery stores and free this and free that.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: And this is not just something that's confined to New York,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: although I think we're seeing it obviously amplified there. But
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: this is obviously what progressives right around the world love.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: The other thing I found interesting from Mamdani's speech, which
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: was not all gracious, was he talked about the fact
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: that New York is all about immigrants. So imagine if
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: you were a New Yorker born in New York, your
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: parents were born in New York, your grandparents were born
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: in New York.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Listening to this New York tonight, you have delivered a
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: mandate for change.
• 20:52
  Speaker 9: Thank you to those so often forgotten by the politics
• 20:55
  Speaker 9: of our city who made this movement their own. I
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: speak of Yemeny bodega owners and Mexican abuelas, Senegalese taxi drivers,
• 21:09
  Speaker 9: and who's back nurses, Trinidadian lime cooks and Ethiopian aunties.
• 21:17
  Speaker 11: New York will remain a city of immigrants, a city
• 21:22
  Speaker 11: built by immigrants, powered by immigrants, and.
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: As of tonight Land by an immigrant.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: They've got nothing at all against immigrants. But New York
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: is a wonderful, iconic American city.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: It's not a city.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Of immigrants, for immigrants, run by immigrants. I don't think
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: many Americans would be thrilled to hear.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: That at all. No, And I think watching that victory speech,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: my feeling very much was this has actually got nothing
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: to do with New York from his perspective anyway, For
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of New Yorkers who voted for him, this
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: is Mamdani versus Trump. That's what he was setting it
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: up as right there. This is the one man from
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: New York who's going to take on the president of
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the United States. I mean it read to me like
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: a stump speech to say I want to be president
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: of the United States, and I suspect that's ultimately what
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: he is aiming for. Now. Whether or not he can
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: do that will depend on how well his term as
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Mayor of New York goes, he may well cook his goose,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: and the Dems may well go, well, you're damaged Goods, buddy,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: we can't use you again. But that's what I read
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: into it is that's ultimately what he wants to do.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: And we should note as well that he won with
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: fifty point four percent of the vote in a three
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: horse race. Cuomo, who is damaged Goods from the Democratic Party,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: pulled nearly forty two percent, which tells you about the
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: significant dismay that a lot of people in New York
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: had with the proposition of this. And then, of course
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: you had a Republican candidate in Curtis Leewa, who picked
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: up about seven percent of the vote, which were votes
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: that could have gone to Cuomo and made it a
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: much closer race than it ultimately ended up being. I mean,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: he had fifty point four percent, so he was going
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: to win, but it was by no means a massive
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: victory or a showing of you know, the entirety of
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: New York is on board with Mam Darney. They weren't.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: That's why so many people voted for Cuomo. But they're
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: not going to be able to get out of this whole.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Tell him my other observation watching his victory speech, he's
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: a very good communicator.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: I don't like him at all.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: But he knows how to rouse a crowd, and he
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: knows how to get his point across.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: And I would say he's an unusually good community.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Indeed, And it is well worth noting that Obama supported
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: him through this campaign and has told him that he
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: will be an ear for him during his time as
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: mayor of New York. And you could say the same
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: thing about it Obama. I mean, whatever you thought of
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: his policies, he was an exceptional communicator and a great orator.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: And if he's got the word of Obama to help
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: him out on that, he's only going to get better
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: from that perspective.
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: But it's really also just left wing populism. And this
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: is kind of what politics in the United States has
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: sort of devolved into at this point. It's left wing
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: populism versus right wing populism, and New York is going
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: to go down the drain. The other thing that's been
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: exposed as this campaign has gone on is exactly who
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: is funding Zoran mam Dani. And his biggest funder comes
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: from a pack which is a funding group over in
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: the US run by people who were associated with the
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: Council of American Islamic Relations that some Republican members of
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: Congress have called for to be investigated for its links
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: to Hamas. He's also received funding from George Soros's foundation,
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: which funds a lot of left.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: Wing activist groups.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: So it's very clear that the whole les left wing establishment,
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: sort of activist establishment, got behind Zora and mum Dani
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: sort of as I think, as a test case really
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: to see how far can we push this, how far
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: can we really go with socialism, and apparently very far.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: But one thing that should be noted is Zorin won't
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: be able to run for president because he was born
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: in Uganda, so that writes him out. But AOC is
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: following this same blueprint, and this is clearly where the
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: Democrat Party is going to go in the future.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he'd love the opportunity, no doubt. You're
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: completely right. I'd neglected that that is entirely true. Let's
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: park that story and talk about parking the not what
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: you do in the car at night and the coppers
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: come and shine the light through the window, but at
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: least nefarious version of parking, or perhaps quite nefarious if
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: you happen to be these two women in Western Australia
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: neighborhood dispute spills out into the court criminal court case.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I should not well because there is an architect in
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Western Australia by the name of Louise Saint John Kennedy,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: who was most upset with her neighbor, doctor Prudence Manners,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: who is a rheumatologist, because they share a driveway in
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: their property and Doctor Manners allegedly was parking in the
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: wrong spot. So Mss Kennedy took exception to this and
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: came out one day to confront Ms Manners, allegedly brandishing
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: a knife. She denies this. She's pleaded not guilty to
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: this charge and saying to the doctor who she was
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: not happy with her parking ways, quote move your car,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: you effing dumb bitch. So this carries on for a
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: while with an alleged knife. She says it wasn't a knife.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: She says it was actually some sort of tools she
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: uses in her architecture work. So thank you very much,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: it's not a weapon and I shouldn't be charged with this.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: She's also been charged with breaking a restraining order that
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: then came about because of all of this. She's pleaded
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: not guilty to that as well. So it is now,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: after more than a year of stopping and starting, apparently
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: going through the courts in Western Australia, she has now
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: been given the opportunity to cross examine Dr Manners, in
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: the process of which she has brought into the court
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: a stick from a tree, which she is using as
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: a pointer because she was told that the court didn't
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: have a pointer that they could provide her with. Look,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is one of those stories that when
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I was a local government reporter and then a court reporter,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: you know, you find something like this, it is gold,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: absolute gold, because you couldn't write this stuff in a
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: month of Sundays. You could get together a TV writers
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: room and say write me the most fantastical, whimsical local story,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: and they wouldn't be able to come up with stuff
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: as good as this. I mean, you know, road rage
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: is a problem. I know, but I've never been so
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: angry about someone's parking that I have allegedly brandished a
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: knife and called them a dumb bitch.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: We should point out that Mss Kennedy is seventy four
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: years old and Ms doctor Manners is eighty one years old,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: so I just hope I've got that much energy when
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I'm that age.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: But Caleb, you're also missing a critical detail of the case,
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: which was that Miss Kennedy was exiting her driveway because
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: her dog was experiencing a medical emergency and mss Manus's
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: car was allegedly blocking the driveway and then apparently well,
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: according to Ms Kennedy, Ms Manners exited the car and said,
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: I hope your dog dies.
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: So these were aggravated.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: Circumstances, and she Miss Kennedy did say that led her
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: to frustration, at which point she engaged with debate, but
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: strenuously denies the allegations.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: A seventy four year old and an eighty one year
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: old woman having this alleged altercation.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: It must have been like in slow motion.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: ARYE look at I think it would have been. I
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: wish I'd been there. Great stuff to be a fly
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: on the wall for that. While we're talking about parking, though,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: to a more serious matter, a fellow up in Queensland
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: has been fined for parking on his mate's front lawn
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: because the council has come around. You can see the
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: image there of his van, which is sort of half
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: parked on the lawn half parked on the driveway. He's
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: been found, as you can see in the top there,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: one hundred and eleven dollars for doing this because the
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: council says that he is parked on a nature strip. Now,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: of course you will know that the land at the
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: front of your house isn't actually your land. A certain
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: portion of it belongs to the council, and so some
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: merely mouthed council inspector has come along and gone, ah, well,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: actually that van is parked on land, even though there's
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: no footpath there, so it's not like he's obstructing anything.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: There's a tree right in the middle of it, so
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: it's not like you could walk on it anyway. He's
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: not in the way of anything. But some of vicious
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: bloke or woman for that matter, comes along and says, no,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: you've got to pay a fine of one hundred and
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: eleven dollars because you're parked on your mate's front lawn
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: that's not on.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: There's two things with this story.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Number one, can the council find the guy for parking there,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Yes they can. Should they have find the guy for
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: parking there? Of course they should not have. That's not
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: the way you endear yourself to rate payers. The other
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: thing is, what are the chances that a parking inspector
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: just happened to be going along that sleepy little street
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I reckon. Neighbors must have complained. Maybe it was vectatious.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I think a complaint has been
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: made and a parking inspector has turned up as a
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: result of that.
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: You're got to think.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: But it's just more nanny statism from councils, which we
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: do not need. One government that does seem to have
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: their head screwed on is actually the German CDU. The
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: German Chancellor Friedrich Mertz has said Syrians should basically self
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: deport back to Syria because it's now a safe country. Germany,
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: at the height of the Syrian refugee crisis in twenty fifteen,
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: brought in around a million Syrians. Now they have one
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: point three million in the country, two hundred and fifty
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: thousand of which were actually then born in Germany. But
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: at the end of twenty twenty three, seven hundred thousand
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: Syrians were still on humanitarian visas, which means, given Syria
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: has had regime change, given it is notionally a safer country,
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: now they should actually self deport now. The context for
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: this is that the AfD, which is the far right
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: party in Germany, is now polling at twenty six percent.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: The CDU, the center right party, is at twenty five percent,
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: so they have now been overtaken.
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: And this is a huge problem in Europe.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: So many allegedly refugees from the Middle East who came
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: to Europe in the twenty tens and have stayed there
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: are causing mayhem, and clearly German citizens have had enough,
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: and so good on Friedrich Martz for standing up for
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: his country and saying, no, you can leave now it's safe.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: The Germans should just do with their asylum seekers what
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: the French do. Send them to England. That's the plan apparently.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: But the fact that this is controversial is the thing
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: that strikes me. That there is a war in Sirius,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: so people understandably flee, they're given shelter, they're given refuge.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Now the war is.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Over, he should be obvious that they go back and
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: they rebuild their country, even as Germans rebuilt their own
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: country after war, So for him to be labeled as
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: controversial because he's suggesting war is over all, these people
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: should go back just tells you a lot about the
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: mindset of Europe. Of course, he's got a problem because
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: his foreign minister visited Damascus and came back saying he
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: finds it difficult to believe anybody could return there and
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: be a dignified life. And now you're into subjective terms
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: right as to how do you define a dignified life.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Does it have to be a four bedroom brick and
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: tile or can the accommodation in Syria suffice? And so
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: you've got this internal conflict now within the German government
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: But even if that is the case, why is it
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: incumbent upon the people of Germany to take on that burden?
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean I.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: I Angela mad said that they had to be compassionate.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Well, we know what happened with Angela Merkel in Iran,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: right and what has happened broadly in terms of crime
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: and other problems they've had in Germany because of mass
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: waves of margarants who come through. But why has it
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: incumbered upon the people of Germany to take it on.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I get that it's sad if war is going on
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: in your homeland and you probably don't want to be there,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that everyone else should have to
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: take you on in perpetuity. There has to come a
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: point where people return to that land and rebuild it,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: or make an effort to rebuild it. I mean, if
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: we did this in every case, there would be vast
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: parts of the world that we just leave abandoned and say, oh, well,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: no one will ever go back there. Who cares just
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: leave it to rot, nothing will happen to it. That's
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: not the way it works. I wonder how many of
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: these people will suddenly convert to Christianity like they are
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: doing in the UK when they come over from France,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: because of course we know that Christians have been slaughtered
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: in Syria in the last year or so after Asad
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: was deposed, So you know how many are going to say, oh, sorry,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Sorry'm a Christian, I can't go back. I'll be persecuted.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Interesting last night we talked about a dossier that's being
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: considered by the board of the BBC containing allegations of
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: bias from the government funded national broadcaster. Last night we
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: talked about a Donald Trump interview that the BBC had
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: clearly docted to make it look like he was inciting
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: a riot.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: On the Capitol Building.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Well more of that dossia has been leaked to the
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: UK Telegraph, who were reporting that The dossia says that
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: the BBC's Arabic news service has been accused of providing
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: grossly slanted reporting on the conflict in Gaza, including that
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: they continually minimized Israeli suffering, painted Israel as an aggressor,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: raced to air allegations against Israel without adequately checking whether
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: or not they were true, always believed the worst of Israel,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: and always assumed that Hamas spokespeople were telling the truth.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: The allegations went on and on, but Freyer.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Most interesting was some of the spokespeople that the Arabic
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: BBC channel patronized tell us about that.
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: Oh, it's honestly unbelievable.
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: They had one guy on two hundred and forty four
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: times in eighteen months who said Jews should be burned
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: as Hitler did. They had another guy who said Israelis
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: were subhuman and Jews were devils. He was on five
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: hundred and twenty two times in eighteen months, and they
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: also have examples on there there would be no articles
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: about the hostages. They misreported terrorist attacks from Hesbola just
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: took Hesbela's word at face value. So this is systemic,
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: this bias at the ABC. And then the allegations are
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: the BBC. And then the allegations are that the management
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: did nothing to address it even when they were alerted.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: So how the BBC manages to salvage what is left
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  Speaker 5: of its reputation I do not know.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: As I said, the board of the BBC currently considering
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: all of these allegations.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: We're going to go to a break. When we come back.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: What's making news tomorrow, including Victoria's top cop in trouble
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: over to joy flights in the Police Force Air Wing
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Division and spending cuts in Australian Defense Force mean our
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: stealth fighter jets aren't being maintained properly.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: All of that in a moment.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the program. Let's take a look at
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: what's making news tomorrow. Caleb Victoria's police Commissioner in a
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: little bit of trouble.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, I tell you what. They had the Melbourne Cup
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: and then they had Mike Bush to deliver a hell
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: of a story. Top Cops tale has been exclusive from
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Mark Butler. Police chief Marke Bush, who was forced to
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: apologize after commandeering a police helicopter to fly to Tasmania.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Remember he couldn't take a commercial flight. He's under fire
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: for misleading Victorians amid revelations he took another undeclared flight
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: and his wife went up for a joy ride. And
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: he said at the time when he was called out
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: for flying down to Tazzy on the chopper, that that
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: was it. He'd only used it to go there were
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: two flights, that was it. And he fixed up at
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: the time and said, yep, that was the wrong thing
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: to do. And I thought, great, a guy who admits
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: his faults. It's not often you see that these days.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: He nipped it in the bud. He said, yep, I've
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: got it wrong. It won't happen again. But it turns
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: out it was just a little detail he left out.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: His wife went for a joy ride in the bloody thing.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Oops. I'll give him this though.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: It hasn't taken him long to figure out the way
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: things are done in Victoria. He's a Victorian Labor government appointee.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Famously decent to Allen did not renew the contract of
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: the previous Shane pat Police commissioner. They appointed this guy
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: from New Zealand.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: He's not made a.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Great start and he said he's going to cut back
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: on sort of top staff salaries and get rid of people.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile he's got his wife writing in the chopper.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: Well, he started his term off as commissioner with that.
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: Remember that Maori Indigenous handover ceremony.
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: So I feel like from the.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: Beginning the priorities were maybe a little bit off. But
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: for a state in the middle of a crime crisis,
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: this is not the law.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: It's very on brand.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I think this will have certain people in the government
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: in a tailspin. Tomorrow another story on the front of
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: the Heralds tomorrow. Roadblocks ban still in play. Australian children
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: under sixteen could be banned from Roadblocks with the popular
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: gaming platform on notice ahead of Australia's social media ban
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: for kids. The Online Safety Watchdog is vowing the list
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: of sites to be banned from December ten, including Instagram, TikTok,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: step chat, Facebook, YouTube, thread x, Reddit and kick won't
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: be set and forget Ie will keep adding more to
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: it and roadblocks. Look, you know, I'm a bit old
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: to really understand and what any of this actually is.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I'm led to believe it's like a gaming platform where
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: people can make games that other people can come and play,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: and then it's got user interaction in it. And the
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: allegation has been or the interest from police, that people
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: are going on there and radicalizing kids and their predators
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: and whatever on. But I suppose you know where does
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: this end? Does it because we were told that it
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: wouldn't include messaging services, But if the issue is that
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: you have certain games or whatever where messaging services are
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: being used to groom kids or to radicalize kids, you're
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: starting to talk about messaging services being included.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: And at a certain point, parents just have to take
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: responsibility and go.
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: If you want your.
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: Child to be totally safe, just don't let them on
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: screens full stop.
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: There's no such thing as a safe screen.
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: Basically, predators can find your children anywhere and everywhere, and
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: as these sites are banned, I'll find new ways to.
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: Get to them.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: So just take responsibility for your children.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: And there's ways on your phone.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: I remember when our boys were young, there's ways to
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: block certain sites or even types of music, et cetera,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: et cetera.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: So there's ways to do it. If you're a parent
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: and could be bothered parenting.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: He's still upset that you wouldn't let them listen to Beethoven.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Well, it would have been good for them to listen
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: to Beethoven. That's how Billy Joel became so good at
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: pop music. A good education in classical music sets you
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: up for pop Let's go to the front page of
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: the Adelaide Advertiser. The tragic story in the Advertiser lab
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: filth kills dad. Cancer cells left on a swab lead
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: to misdiagnosis and death. A man died after he was
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: mistakenly diagnosed with lung cancer and wrongly had part of
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: his lung removed after another patient sick cells were left
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: on dirty lab equipment. Dennis Charles Jackson, sixty seven, died
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: from hospital pneumonia, which he developed after the unnecessary lung
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: removal surgery.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: This happened back in twenty nineteen.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: He'd been a lifelong smoker, had a few health issues,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: so they did a biopsy, but the sample became cross
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: contaminated when it was being handled at two fifty am
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: one morning. That's been one of the conclusions of the
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: inquest that such sample should not be handled late at
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: night for fear of fatigue.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: They believed that a.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Forcep wasn't wiped properly, samples cross contaminated, He was wrongly diagnosed,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: had half his lung removed.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: The operation was a perfect operation.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: He just didn't need it and he died as a
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: result of fairly common complications from that operation.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Tragic.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: Now, it's just absolutely heartbreaking. And he wasn't an old guy,
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: sixty seven years old. That's really not old at all.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: In the Daily Telegraph tomorrow, run from their Hills councils
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: are being ordered to rain in their spending amid revelations
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: the Hillshire Council spent thirty five thousand dollars in rate
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: payer funds taking the families of counselors and senior staff
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: on a trip to a hampton's luxury waterfront hotel. The
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: council chose the Anchorage Hotel and Spy in Port Stephens
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: for its annual conference, one hundred and seventy seven kilometers
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: away from its local government area. My grandma actually lives
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: up in Port Stephens. Beautiful part of the world. But
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: if you're thinking about rate payer priorities. Taking the families
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: of counselors and staff is probably not up there.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Well, I live in the Hills district.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I can honestly say the area is much improved for
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: this conference being here.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I've been to the anchorage. It's a lovely venue. But
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: it's just why do they keep doing this stuff?
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Because they can, because they can?
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: So bad In the Daily Telegraph as well, tomorrow, UNI's
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: China dealer probed. An urgent review has been launched into
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: an Australian university's partnership with China to train Beijing's next
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: generation of cyber warriors. Forquari, University has struck a thirteen
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: year deal to build a joint campus inside China's military
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: linked tech system.
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: When alerted, Foreign.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: Minister Pennywong yesterday ordered an expedited review of the deal.
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: This is just mind blowing. This is actually mind blowing.
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: We know that China is trying to infiltrate our universities,
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: but for an Australian university to go to China and
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: build a campus inside the government controlled of cyber warfare
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: system is just mind blowing.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: And here is why you ought to be worried about
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: that because it's his on the front of the olster.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Origon Vince Kutz leave, Nation exposed dozens of workers' house
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: with maintaining and upgrading theraafs if thirty five still five
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: digits have been redeployed. The nation's most potent air capability
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: is hit by a defense wide austerity drive to pay
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: for nuclear submarines and surface ships. BAE Systems and Lockheed
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Martin workers have been shifted from the thirty five sustatement program,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: a mid warnings labor cost cutting risks eroding the Australian
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: defense forces readiness and technological edge. That's just what we
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: need when we've got China. Getten into the mainframe.
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: There you go.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break when we come back.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: The Bureau of Meteorology in more trouble. Patients shop to
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: find their healthcare provider sending a letter advising they are deceased,
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: and Caleb Bond is going to let loose on a
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: famous actor over his fashion choices.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: All that's.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: The Bureau of Meteorology have been coppying a stick lately,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: and it keeps on going freer.
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: Yep, the bomb's new four million dollar website has officially bombed.
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: On Wednesday morning, the website went out and there was
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: nothing displayed where normally would say what temperature it would
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: feel like. It was literally just blank, which left users
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: wondering what temperature.
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: Will it be?
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: And what use is a four million dollar weather website
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: that can't tell you what the weather is?
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Well, at least if the website's not working, you can't
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: get the weather wrong, right, So I would say this
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: is a great improvement Ureau of Meteorology.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I mean that that is something. Maybe they're saving us
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: from themselves, but honestly, like you have one job, and
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: the complaints about the new bomb website have been thick
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: and fast. You know, in Queensland the Premier has basically
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: said it us a risk to life. No one wanted
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: this thing. You don't have to change what ain't broke.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: And they keep discovering this every single day. Then just
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: keep digging their eels and they know it's your fault.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: You don't like, well, I got to tell you the
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: bomb have got nothing on These guys talk about a
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: masterclass in bureaucratic incompetence. The largest health care provider in
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Maine in the US sent death notices to five hundred
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: living patients. They informed five hundred and thirty one people
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: that they had died, and even provided instructions for their
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: next of kin on how to settle their estates. Here's
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: one woman who was shocked to find.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: That she was deceased.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: She contacted the department to tell them she hadn't died
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: He said he was aware of the issue and that
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: they were going to send out.
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: Apologies letters, not letters.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: So I'm thinking there's other people, OK.
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: And he's like, I'm glad to hear that you're still
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: alive and well, and I'm like, yeah.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Me too, And then that was the end of the conversation.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: I could just imagine the healthcare board meeting where they
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: talk about because of a computer glitch, you know, we've
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: advised all these people that they're dead.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: I think they'll teach them not to pay their bills.
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, they were probably just excited that they'd start
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: cutting cars, cutting cars, less people to service. Finally they
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: can save the US healthcare system.
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: No, no, no, they're still alive.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: A least these people have a good you know. When
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: you ask him, so what is life like after death?
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: You can say same old, same old, the ones yesterday. Now, seriously,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Woody Harrelson, what are you doing. He's been shooting a
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: new film now you see me. Now you don't, don't
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: ask me what it's about. Go and watch it if
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: you want to know. But he's in this thing with
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Isle of Fisher, and I mean Isle of Fisher could
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: put no foot wrong. I tell you, I'm a great fan.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: But she's complained that Woody Harrelson never wears shoes, he
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: just gets around in flip flops or slippers, and that
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: they went out for dinner at No Boo, and I
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: mean No Boo is top of the top restaurant, and
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: he rocked up in a pair of flip flops. I'm sorry,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: put some goddamn shoes on. How hard is it that
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: we don't want to smell your feet?
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: I respect it, I respect it all the way. Some
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: shoes are so uncomfortable. He is putting comfort ahead of
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: anything else. If you have a problem, oh well.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: As long as he's not wearing crocs, I reckon. It's
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: absolutely stick around. Read the penehee coming up in just
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: a moment.